[01:17] <mauro_> como instalo um navegador
[02:24] <mate|61143> Hey, I'm new on this IRC. Came here from the welcome page on Ubuntu MATE.
[02:24] <mate|61143> Is this the right place to ask questions?
[04:56] <swift110> sup folks
[05:02] <alkisg> mate|61143: sure, ask
[05:08] <swift110> yes you dont have to ask to ask
[07:28] <praveenprem08> hello ther
[09:44] <mate|73287> Guys, do you know why WiFi is not working in Ubuntu 18.04 (HP laptop).
[12:27] <rayosb> hi this a test
[12:28] <diogenes_> for driver license?
[12:29] <stevenm_> sixwheeledbeast, figured it out - but the installer is woefully inadequate, it's a long manual process
[12:32] <sixwheeledbeast> stevenm_: if i helped its been been a while, i forgot what it was about
[12:33] <stevenm_> it's probably not worth going in to again :)
[12:34] <stevenm_> essentially if you're trying to preserve an existing OS on your hdd when installing ubuntu mate... but also want encryption... but also want encryption done the old fashioned way (lvm with swap inside that) like the wizard would do (which unfortunately wipes the whole disk)... then you're sore out of luck unless you do it all manually and fix a few files/grub/initramfs after
[12:34] <stevenm_> in my situation... new work laptop ... been told to keep win10 on it (so i've shrunk it to 1/5th the size)... want the encryption (as it's a lappy) and need a swap partition (not file) otherwise hibernation doesn't work
[12:35] <stevenm_> if any devs read that let me know and I can go into more details
[12:36] <alkisg> stevenm_: if you're talking about the ubuntu installer, ubiquity, it's not related to mate
[12:37] <alkisg> Mate uses it, but doesn't handle bug reports etc; you'd need to use launchpad
[12:37] <stevenm_> alkisg, oh sure i know that - but it just happens to be mate i'm installing
[12:37] <stevenm_> the bug likely already exists :)  it's essentially called... (if it exists)... make sure the advanced partitioning screen can create/edit LVM
[12:38] <stevenm_> which is a huge huge job :)
[12:38] <alkisg> stevenm_: great, but if you want the *ubiquity* devs to read this, so that they fix it, you should report it to them, not to mate
[12:38] <stevenm_> otherwise the bug could be... allow an automated lvm/luks setup (like it does currently) but not as *whole* disk - i.e. along side other gpt/dos partitions
[12:38] <stevenm_> i guess that is more reasonable
[12:52] <sixwheeledbeast> stevenm_: ah yes i remember
[12:53] <ani> I did a fresh dual boot installation of Ubuntu Mate on my laptop and for some reason it's running hotter than WIndows 10 out of the box. I haven't installed any additional softwares yet apart from psesnsor
[12:54] <sixwheeledbeast> maybe mention it in #ubuntu ?
[12:54] <sixwheeledbeast> ani what does psensor show
[12:55] <ani> psensor shows CPU core temperatures as 53, 55, 54, 54. They change a bit but stay between 50 and 55
[12:55] <ani> celcius
[12:56] <ani> BUt when I boot into Windows 10, average temperature stays between 40c and 45c
[12:58] <ani> Those were 4 temperature levels for 4 cores
[13:01] <ani> Should I go to #ubuntu ?
[13:04] <sixwheeledbeast> ani: may just be detecting the temperature wrong in one or the other.
[13:06] <ani> maybe. But touching the laptop with hand also feels hotter here. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux. I'm just looking for a way to fix this.
[13:09] <sixwheeledbeast> doesn't sound amazingly hot for a laptop tbh. depending on the chip it could go upto 90 odd before throttling.
[13:09] <sixwheeledbeast> i would investigate with "top" in terminal if anything is using CPU
[13:10] <sixwheeledbeast> also see if "dmesg" shows any issues.
[13:10] <ani> how do I do that?
[13:11] <sixwheeledbeast> open a terminal and type top
[13:11] <ani> and the dmesg one?
[13:13] <sixwheeledbeast> yep you will need to stop top or open another term
[13:14] <sixwheeledbeast> in top whats your load avg and cpu%
[13:14] <ani> give me a moment
[13:15] <ani> load average: 0.09, 0.33, 0.37
[13:15] <ani> %Cpu(s):  0.7 us,  0.4 sy,  0.0 ni, 98.9 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
[13:17] <sixwheeledbeast> so nothing is happening really. <1%
[13:18] <ani> yeah. And still all my cores are at about 60C now
[13:21] <sixwheeledbeast> as I say that may not be accurate for whatever reason.
[13:22] <ani> okay. Thanks for the help.
[13:22] <alkisg> ani, you can also try asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[13:22] <alkisg> Kernel schedulers and all can cause temperature problems
[13:22] <alkisg> But if you don't see anything weird in htop, it's not a desktop environment issue
[13:22] <ani> Oh okay. Thanks
[14:33] <cl> hi ihave aprobrem,why my firefox cant use hdmi sound
[14:35] <alkisg> If you run `aplay /bin/ls` do you hear it from hdmi?
[14:37] <cl> i can use in ubuntu mate   bu at firefox sound is zizizizi......
[17:45] <sandra_> I have a question about installation
[17:46] <sandra_> ok neverming
[18:44] <karjala_> Do you know if systemd unit files inside /etc/systemd/system may safely be links to files outside that directory?
[18:44] <karjala_> I think I read somewhere that we shouldn't do that
[20:25] <m4t> karjala_: my /etc/systemd has a ton of symlinks to /lib/systemd/system .service files. i didn't put them there.
[20:25] <karjala_> yes i know
[20:26] <karjala_> mine too
[20:26] <karjala_> but i'm wondering about the ones we put there
[20:26] <karjala_> ourselves
[20:26] <karjala_> are they allowed to be symlinks?
[20:26] <m4t> i dont think it'd be an issue, easy to test
[21:06] <Eickmeyer> karjala_, m4t: Any time a systemd service is "enable"d to start at startup, it creates a symlink. Hence those symlinks. Don't mess with them unless you put them there; you could bork your install.
[21:08] <Eickmeyer> And really, there's no reason to link to them from anywhere else, which could also be hazardous.
[21:11] <m4t> i don't see an issue with ln -s /some/path/to/some.service /etc/systemd/system/; systemctl daemon-reload; systemctl enable some.service
[21:11] <m4t> if it works it works
[21:12] <Eickmeyer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:13] <m4t> i'm not really visualizing a use case though. maybe if you had .service/executables stored on a network drive and wanted to update multiple systems or something
[21:37] <m4t> karjala_: oh btw, there is also the possibility of a hard link instead of a symlink. that way the same data/inode is pointed to by 2 different files. modify one, and the contents of the other is modified. it'll only work if they're both on the same filesystem though.
[21:43] <karjala_> m4t, what i replace 1 rather than modify it?
[21:43] <m4t> if you rm it then make a new one, the other one still stays the same
[21:44] <m4t> i think a mv/cp would overwrite it as well. but if you just did cat > file ^D, then it'd modify both
[21:44] <m4t> anything that changes the inode..