[01:16] <guest07655> Release file for http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-security/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 11h 35min 33s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. my time is set to utc. this doesnt happen with 16.04. any ideas?
[01:17] <guest07655> using 18.04 now
[01:23] <sarnold> does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?
[01:23] <sarnold> from the four archive.ubuntu.com mirrors that I can read I downloaded a file d70739750fc6a1376bb47572bb3140cfe26a57b9e5bd2435c89c17818cdb4a84
[01:24] <sarnold> gpg reports the signature as coming from the past, "gpg: Signature made Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:06:13 PM PDT"
[07:38] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[07:47] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:48] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[07:49] <willcooke> morning all
[07:50] <duflu> Hi willcooke
[07:51] <duflu> Although not quite morning. Time for decaf instead
[07:52] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, willcooke
[08:07] <ricotz> morning
[08:08] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hi, thunderbird 52.9.1+build3 will be available here https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[11:26] <alexarnaud> Hello all
[11:26] <alexarnaud> Trevinho: andyrock: How do you manage configuration change on Compiz usually ? https://code.launchpad.net/~samuel-thibault/compiz/ezoom-minmax/+merge/343183
[11:27] <alexarnaud> It's discussed on LP on the link I've pasted.
[11:42] <andyrock> alexarnaud: I guess you need a migrations script
[11:42] <andyrock> not sure compiz got one
[11:43] <andyrock> alexarnaud: e.g. in unity we got this https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/files/head:/tools/migration-scripts/
[12:20] <alexarnaud> Thanks andyrock :)
[12:21] <Trevinho> alexarnaud: in theory thee would be a compiz config migrator, but it doesn't work well, so better that way
[12:22] <Trevinho> There*
[12:59] <qwerty_> help me
[13:16] <seb128> good afternoon desktopers
[13:23] <willcooke> hey seb128
[13:23] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you?
[13:23] <seb128> I had nothing else to do in the plane than writing emails, sorry for the spam :p
[13:23] <willcooke> Doing ok.  Been nice to have a fairly quiet week to get docs done
[13:24] <willcooke> But the sun has done away now
[13:24] <robert_ancell_> willcooke, you should send us away to conferences more :)
[13:24] <willcooke> and I'm taking the afternoon off to get some excercise #
[13:24] <willcooke> robert_ancell_, :D
[13:26] <robert_ancell> Meeting is in 5 mins?
[13:26] <willcooke> robert_ancell, yes, but I have your notes so if you're doing other things, dont hang around
[13:26] <robert_ancell> Just hacking at the moment..
[13:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-07-10
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 10 13:30:09 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[13:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[13:30] <willcooke> Roll call (may not be very accurate):
[13:30] <willcooke> andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (out), duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine (out), laney, oSoMoN (out), seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:31] <seb128> hey!
[13:31] <andyrock> o/
[13:31] <didrocks> hey (not around ;))
[13:32] <heber> o/
[13:32] <willcooke> I think we've got enough people to get going, this should be a quick one.  I think we should skip rls bugs this time around since we have so many people out
[13:32] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[13:32] <andyrock> #1 Fix merged "upstream" for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1780093
[13:32] <andyrock> #2 Fix proposed upstream for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/211
[13:32] <andyrock> #3 WIP: fix for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/109 (Still trying to merge Carlo's changes with mine)
[13:32] <andyrock> #3 Arraging travel for Brussels Sprint
[13:32] <andyrock> Reviews:
[13:32] <andyrock>  - Several compiz MP reviews
[13:32] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 211 in gnome-shell "OSK: continuous long press doesn't enter character" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:32] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue 109 in gnome-shell "Extended characters in OSK don't get entered" (comments: 16) [Opened]
[13:33] <andyrock> I'm pretty sure I miss one fix
[13:33] <andyrock> but I  can't remember
[13:33] <willcooke> thanks andyrock!  Did you see my comment re: chmod'ing the livepatch status file?
[13:33] <andyrock> yeah the fix has been merged
[13:33] <willcooke> \m/
[13:33] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[13:34] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[13:34] <dgadomski> hey
[13:34] <dgadomski> sorry, I don't have anything desktop-specific to share today
[13:34] <dgadomski> eof
[13:34] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[13:34] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
[13:34] <didrocks> GUADEC board meeting
[13:34] <didrocks> GUADEC adboard meeting
[13:35] <didrocks> GUADEC
[13:35] <didrocks> .
[13:35] <willcooke> :)
[13:35] <didrocks> :)
[13:35] <robert_ancell> BEER
[13:35] <willcooke> thanks didrocks
[13:35] <didrocks> robert_ancell: lies!
[13:35] <didrocks> ;)
[13:35] <willcooke> I've seen the pictures
[13:35] <oSoMoN> sangria?
[13:35] <didrocks> ok ok, double achievement, beer and sangria :p
[13:35] <willcooke> #topic duflu
[13:35] <willcooke> * Gnome Shell things:
[13:35] <willcooke>   - Performance: Implemented more detailed performance measurement: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/154
[13:35] <willcooke>   - Performance: Boost performance with a more sane META_SYNC_DELAY: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/152
[13:35] <willcooke>   - Housekeeping: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/151
[13:35] <willcooke>   - Improved local installation/workflow support: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/142
[13:35] <willcooke>   - Performance: Finally figured out the big picture of mutter's timing problems and how to fix them, elegantly and perfectly. So now working on merging all the pieces into a single branch. The "pieces" are roughly based on:
[13:35] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 154 in mutter "clutter: More accurate & detailed CLUTTER_SHOW_FPS [performance]" (comments: 1) [Opened]
[13:35] <willcooke>     . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/70 (which is in bionic already)
[13:36] <willcooke>     . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/145
[13:36] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 152 in mutter "compositor: Default to META_SYNC_DELAY == 0 [performance]" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:36] <willcooke>     . https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/tree/fix-sync
[13:36] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 151 in mutter "compositor: Remove dead code: META_DISABLE_MIPMAPS" (comments: 2) [Merged]
[13:36] <willcooke>     but a little different... Watch this space.
[13:36] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 142 in gnome-shell "meson.build: Add support for local non-root install" (comments: 4) [Opened]
[13:36] <willcooke>   - Leak fixes fully released! Thanks Laney (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672297, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778660)
[13:36] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 70 in mutter "WIP: clutter: Smooth out master clock to smooth visuals [performance]" (comments: 32) [Closed]
[13:36] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 145 in mutter "WIP: clutter-stage-cogl: Avoid missed frames & stutter [performance]" (comments: 11) [Closed]
[13:36] <willcooke> * Ubuntu 18.04 issues causing some noise this week:
[13:36] <willcooke>   - Bionic never finishes booting (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779476 + https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779827)
[13:36] <willcooke>   - Login screen (Wayland) can't start on old gen-3 Intel GPUs (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727356), but it sounds like upstream might finally have a fix coming (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/160)
[13:36] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 160 in mutter "renderer/native: Fallback to non-planar API if gbm_bo_get_handle_for_plane fails" (comments: 2) [Opened]
[13:36] <willcooke> * PulseAudio 12.0:
[13:36] <willcooke>   - Now in cosmic proposed, thanks Seb (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:12.0-1ubuntu1). Note it is blocked on MIR libsoxr still (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1702558).
[13:36] <willcooke> * BlueZ:
[13:36] <willcooke>   - Bluetooth reconnect on resume fix SRU for bionic: passed testing and awaiting promotion (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759628)
[13:36] <willcooke> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
[13:36] <willcooke>   - Steady progress: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
[13:37] <willcooke> #topic jamesh
[13:38] <jamesh> sorry, I forgot to send through my updates.  I've mainly been following up on improving snap support for portals this week
[13:38] <jamesh> I also put up a proposal for one of the open talk slots at GUADEC, but didn't get accepted
[13:39] <willcooke> thanks jamesh
[13:39] <willcooke> #topic heber
[13:39] <heber> hey
[13:39] <heber> * Fixing Desktop broken tests because format of the initrd changed
[13:39] <heber> * Testing job in hwcert-jenkins-jobs for running snap bluez tests on Desktop
[13:39] <heber> EOF
[13:39] <willcooke> thanks heber
[13:39] <willcooke> #topic kenvandine
[13:39] <willcooke> * Rebuilt a bunch of snaps to pickup security fix for libjpeg-turbo8
[13:39] <willcooke> * backported patch to filter out /snap from libgtop2 to the gnome-3-26 xenial PPA
[13:39] <willcooke> * backported newer glib to the gnome-3-26 xenial PPA to enable building some newer snaps
[13:39] <willcooke> * Updated gnome-system-monitor snap to 3.28.2
[13:39] <willcooke> * GUADEC 2018
[13:39] <willcooke> * GNOME Advisory Board meeting
[13:40] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[13:40] <willcooke> • Mostly at GUADEC, proper report to follow next week
[13:40] <willcooke> • systemd --user session work has started to land, needed a followup fix in mutter but it's not so bad
[13:40] <willcooke> • Made a PPA so people can test that stuff, try it if you want ppa:ubuntu-desktop/systemd-user
[13:40] <willcooke> • Tried to unblock some stuff from proposed, pinged my autopkgtest co-maintainers to look at a stuck pkg there
[13:40] <willcooke> 🤪🤝
[13:40] <willcooke> #topic oSoMoN
[13:40] <willcooke> oSoMoN, you want me to do the paste?  I have it here
[13:41] <willcooke> I will assume yes..
[13:41] <willcooke> • Back from paternity leave Thursday last week, I have been catching
[13:41] <willcooke> up with e-mail and chromium and libreoffice releases, mostly. I still
[13:41] <willcooke> have some bugmail backlog.
[13:41] <willcooke> • chromium
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ updated chromium snap license to BSD-3-Clause so that it's
[13:41] <willcooke> displayed correctly as free software in GNOME Software (bug #1778607),
[13:41] <willcooke> experimented with custom SPDX expression but got syntax error, reached
[13:41] <willcooke> out to store team to understand if a complex multi-license clause is
[13:41] <willcooke> supported
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ updating stable to 67.0.3396.99
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ updated beta to 68.0.3440.42
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ updated dev to 69.0.3472.3
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ filed bug #1780747 (clang 6.0.1 regression)
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ updated xenial packaging for all supported releases to build with clang 6.0
[13:41] <willcooke> • libreoffice
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ updated snap to 6.0.5.2, and issued call for testing
[13:41] <willcooke> (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-6-0-5/6269)
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ fixed bug #1766192 and pushed update to candidate channel
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ working on a snap for 6.1, currently investigating build failures
[13:41] <willcooke> • snaps
[13:41] <willcooke>   ∘ updated 0AD snap to 0.23, currently in candidate channel awaiting
[13:41] <willcooke> for some feedback
[13:41] <willcooke> 🍅
[13:41] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[13:41] <oSoMoN> huh sorry, package delivery at the door at the worst moment…
[13:42] <seb128> • discussions around DLNA
[13:42] <seb128> • restored the legacy n-m library binding needed to build nm-applet (u-c-c needs to be updated before those can be cleared out)
[13:42] <seb128> • sponsoring (bluez bionic SRU https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759628, pulseaudio 12 for cosmic, software-property/livepatch fix for cosmic https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768797, gvfs fix for cosmic/bionic https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762595 )
[13:42] <seb128> • discussed a bit boot issues on full disk and what we could do around that topic
[13:42] <willcooke> oSoMoN, :)  np we had it covered
[13:42] <seb128> • GUADEC
[13:42] <seb128> • cosmic merges/updates (brasero, geoclue, harfbuzz, e-d-s, evolution, evolution-ews)
[13:42] <seb128> • updated our versions tracking to follow cosmic, cleaned up a bit the list
[13:42] <seb128> • GUADEC
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[13:42] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[13:42] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Let cups-browsed upgrade from IPP: URIs to IPPS: URIs also on IPP network printers where IPPS uses a different port (443 instead of 631).
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - CUPS: Checked feature request of per-printer configuration for on which network interfaces to DNS-SD advertise. Rejected by Mike Sweet, commented on GNOME printer sharing GUI Feature request.
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job. Filled 2nd evaluation forms for the students.
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[13:44] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
[13:44] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[13:44] <willcooke> GUADEC:
[13:44] <willcooke>  · Gave a presentation of Ubuntu performances improvements and next developments
[13:44] <willcooke>  · Discussed many things like improving Multi-monitor, having launcher badges
[13:44] <willcooke>    using shared protocol (some GNOME people want it apparently), G-S connect and
[13:44] <willcooke>    lots of other discussions with gnome-shell maintainers.
[13:44] <willcooke>  · Started working on fractional scaling for XWayland with upstream
[13:44] <willcooke>  · Started some reviews on shell with upstream
[13:44] <willcooke> - Fixed other JS issues:
[13:44] <willcooke>  · https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/4
[13:44] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 4 in gnome-shell "Javascript invalid access fixes" (comments: 23) [Opened]
[13:44] <willcooke>  · Merged major refactoring on mutter, and added more fixes
[13:44] <willcooke>    https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/141
[13:44] <willcooke>  · Fixed dash-to-dock to use new mutter API
[13:44] <gitlab-bot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 141 in gnome-shell "More screen removal" (comments: 0) [Merged]
[13:44] <willcooke>    https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/pull/770
[13:44] <gitlab-bot> micheleg issue (Pull request) 770 in dash-to-dock "use Display and WorkspaceManager instead of global.screen" (comments: 1) [Open]
[13:44] <willcooke> 🌃🏊
[13:45] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[13:45] <robert_ancell> Travelling to and being at GUADEC.
[13:45] <robert_ancell> Gave open talk about snap support in GNOME.
[13:45] <robert_ancell> Gave lightning talk about a Python IDE I’ve been hacking on in spare time.
[13:45] <robert_ancell> Worked with GNOME Control Center maintainer on my proposed branches and work we are planning on so we understand each other.
[13:45] <robert_ancell> Accepted as a co-maintainer of GNOME Control Center.
[13:45] <robert_ancell> EOF
[13:45] <willcooke> thanks robert_ancell!
[13:45] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[13:45] <willcooke> Anyone got anything this time?
[13:46] <willcooke> timeout in 1 min
[13:46] <seb128> not me
[13:46] <oSoMoN> nothing here
[13:47] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[13:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 10 13:47:35 2018 UTC.
[13:47] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-07-10-13.30.moin.txt
[13:47] <willcooke> thanks everyone
[13:47] <seb128> thanks!
[13:48] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[14:04] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, did you see that Steve provided the debug info you asked for on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1763520 ?
[14:09] <tkamppeter> seb128, I am looking into it ...
[14:09] <seb128> tkamppeter, thx
[14:18] <robert_ancell> seb128, I forgot - are we uploading gnome-software 3.30 in bionic?
[14:20] <seb128> robert_ancell, your call as the maintainer? :) as long as it doesn't depend on gtk4 which is not ready for prime time in Ubuntu
[14:20] <robert_ancell> it does not
[14:20] <seb128> go for it if you see some value in updating now
[14:31] <tkamppeter> seb128, bug report updated, looks like the GTK print dialog is sending a broken page size name.
[14:32] <ahayzen> seb128, robert_ancell, what happens to any updated depends of gnome-software 3.30 if that is going into bionic ? eg gnome-software might (still WIP) use the new flatpaktransaction api - which means having a newer flatpak+ostree also in bionic. I'm going to try and SRU these, but i sense due to the size they might need to be backports.
[14:32] <robert_ancell> ahayzen, bionic or cosmic?
[14:33] <ahayzen> robert_ancell, i was commenting in response to "are we uploading gnome-software 3.30 in bionic"
[14:33] <robert_ancell> oh right, I meant cosmic before
[14:33] <robert_ancell> my bad
[14:33] <ahayzen> ah, that makes more sense ;-) ignore me then :-)
[14:33] <robert_ancell> Good one of us is paying attention! :)
[14:34] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks
[14:34] <seb128> ahayzen, robert_ancell, sorry I autocorrect that to cosmic as well :p)
[14:36] <ahayzen> hehe no worries :-)
[14:41] <k_alam> seb128: Hi, can you review this....I asked jbicha, but he is not around these days.....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1741027
[14:41] <k_alam> It is lagging one commit behind  because of new update in u-s-d......but it shouldn't cause merge conflict
[14:41] <k_alam> This is important as I also finished porting u-c-c from libnm-glib to libnma.....problem is, I did not start the port and it was rebased on top of sharing panel branch instead of trunk....and rebasing everything in bzr is annoying.
[14:42] <seb128> k_alam, hey, I can add to my list but I'm quite busy and unity reviews are not on the top of my priority list so it might not be for this week
[14:43] <k_alam> seb128: Alright. Next week then....Thanks.
[14:44] <seb128> yw, and I didn't commit to do it next week
[14:44] <seb128> this week is no good but I'm unsure next is going to be better
[14:44] <seb128> I see what I can do
[15:12] <willcooke> k, I'm heading off.  Will be back at email later
[15:12] <willcooke> see you tomorrow
[17:29] <oSoMoN> have a good evening everyone!
[17:42] <Laney> ricotz: could you help on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1780501 pls?