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t4nk_was_hereI was just reading00:00
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oerheksbut the join message would tell you too00:00
lvrp16hggdh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blueman/+bug/178087800:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1780878 in blueman (Ubuntu) "postinst fails in chroot, dbus reload trigger should be removed" [Undecided,New]00:01
hggdhCarlFK: as far as I understand, each program takes care of its own "recent files" (if the program supports it). I tried searching dconf, but found nothing matching "recent" there00:01
oerheksthere is no recent list to put files into, the app does that solely00:01
CarlFKum.. when I use LebreOffice, type, Export PDF, foo.pdf, then in Firefox, gmail, attach, file picker dialog shows foo.pdf.  so apps share something00:03
acv_Is this a good place to get Ubuntu support?00:05
futilehello00:05
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CarlFKscratch that - pdf doesn't end up on recent list, but Save As foo.odt, that does.00:06
hggdhlvrp16: I added the bug link and tagged it as Bionic. Since blueman is in Universe, we will need a contributor to work on the SRU00:06
oerheksacv_, yes00:06
acv_I've got a laptop with a 1tb windows hdd and a 250gb m2 SSD. I create a bootable usb, use it to install ubuntu to the sad, and no matter what I do the sad isn't bootable.00:06
CarlFKacv_: my guess is the 1t is set as the machine's the boot device.  it may be as simple as telling the installer to use that device00:09
hggdhlvrp16: the fix will have to be cherry-picked (Debian corrected it in a new version of blueman)00:09
CarlFKacv_: or, hit F1 whatever to get into the machine's setup and change the boot order to look at the ssd first00:10
lvrp16hggdh: i'm reading the SRU doc, not familiar00:10
acv_CarlFK: if I remove the 1tb all together it doesn't boot and the m2 doesn't show as a bootable device when I push f1200:10
hggdhlvrp16: it is probable that all that needs to be done is drop the postinst script (per the Debian bug), so it should be an easy SRU00:10
acv_I can see the drive in the bios00:11
acv_I choose the erase disk option when installing to the m2.00:11
CarlFKacv_: next guess: the ssd needs to be setup as a uefi bootable00:12
oerheksthere used to be a bootline command, 'nvme_load=YES' https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln299303/loading-ubuntu-on-systems-using-pcie-m2-drives?lang=en  but recent posts show it is not needed anymore..00:13
acv_Ok, is that a different option on the setup screen when booting from the USB drive00:13
acv_Hmm.00:13
acv_I might as well try it.00:13
CarlFKacv_: or find the option in the bios to allow legacy devices (non uefi)00:13
acv_I've done that as well.00:13
neoncontrailsI successfully used these instructions to install Photoshop CS6 the other day: https://gist.github.com/romuloctba/1201b373b00ea9516d5e. But I have a question about launching the installed app: if I run "wine /path/to/Photoshop.CS6.exe", it launches in some weird mode that completely covers gnome, the dock, etc. Is there an alternative way to launch a wine app?00:14
acv_The first couple times I tried to flash it failed at executing grub-install /dev/sda failed00:14
acv_It doesn't say that anymore though00:14
oerheks!uefi00:15
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:15
acv_Thank you very much00:19
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amazoniantoadWhen trying to install ubuntu server I get an error, "Read-only file system: /dev/sr0"00:57
amazoniantoadI suspect that the server might have a RAID configured in the bios00:58
amazoniantoadWhat should I do?00:58
jwmI'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.00:58
DeHackEdamazoniantoad: /dev/sr0 is your CD-ROM drive00:59
amazoniantoadDeHackEd: I realize that but there's nothing in the CD-ROM00:59
amazoniantoadI was thinking maybe the old owner did something funky with it.01:00
DeHackEdhm.. is this a server board?01:00
amazoniantoadYes01:00
DeHackEddoes it have an IPMI management port?01:00
amazoniantoadNot sure. Never really handled a real server like this01:00
amazoniantoadDon't know what IPMI is01:01
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DeHackEddepending on the vendor it may be labeled with a wrench, or just off to the side away from the "regular" LAN ports01:01
DeHackEdRJ4501:01
amazoniantoadYes there's a lan port connected to some kind of pcb board that's different from the other two01:02
DeHackEdpoint is, remote management software can sometimes fake a CD-ROM drive to allow remote software installations01:02
amazoniantoadoh01:02
DeHackEdit's incredibly convenient, and appears to the server as a USB CD-ROM drive01:03
amazoniantoadSo how do I take advantage of it?01:03
amazoniantoadSome kind of client on my computer?01:04
DeHackEdthat's a question you'll have to lookup the manufacturer's manuals for. but usually the BIOS or an Option ROM will let you set up an IP address on this special port, then you can access it by web browser on that port01:04
jwmreiterating my question: I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.  [how frequently is it appropriate to reiterate?]01:04
DeHackEdof course this is just a theory as to why you're having this problem.01:04
amazoniantoadhm01:04
jwmreiterating my question: I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.  [reiterating once every five minutes]01:09
jwmreiterating my question: I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.  [reiterating once every five minutes]01:14
jwmnot a bot01:14
jwmI'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle01:24
scientesjwm, does it show up when you run `lsusb`?01:27
scientesjwm, also, run the command `journalctl -f` and then plug it in, and paste the output to https://paste.ubuntu.com/01:28
jwmThanks scientes.  I'll take a look and report back.01:30
jwmscientes: on the first question, yes.  On the second, see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2Ftx7dybZg/01:33
scientesI don't see anything in the second01:33
scienteswhat shows up on the first?01:33
scienteshttps://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=22107101:34
scientesjwm, ^^ that looks like the answer01:36
jwmScientes.  Thanks of course.  I've been there, installed that (should a tshirt be made??), but no success.01:36
scienteswhat prints from lsusb that you think is the printer?01:37
jwmI need to head off to bed.  I'll tilt at this scanner another day.  I always deeply appreciate help on the IRC and try to pay it forward when I can.  Good night01:37
scientesnight01:38
jwm"Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04b8:013d Seiko Epson Corp."01:38
jwmscanner not printer01:38
jwmThats what makes me think that my OS hald recognizes my new scanner01:39
jwmThat's01:39
jwmhalf not hald01:39
jwmno worries, and thanks again.  good night01:41
studio-user464 lastest updates have messed up wifi additional drivers and samba connections to win7 shares.....  was working fanstasticly01:46
studio-user464I'm at a loss to find the differences01:46
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studio-user464I have 2 laptops system76 & Toshiba Satellite Skullcandy...... sys76 wifi works............. toshiba lastest updates have messed up wifi additional drivers02:02
qzohas anyone here on Ubuntu updated to firefox 61 yet?02:03
qzoI just did, and now my scrollbars are around 20px larger than they used to be02:03
qzothe guys on the firefox channel said it might be an issue with the Ubuntu GTK engine02:03
qzoso I am just checking to see if anytone else has had the same issue02:03
qzoI kinda doubt it is with GTK, because my other GTK programs have normal sized scrollbars02:04
aloha_#test02:05
aloha_aloha?02:10
aloha_QUIT02:11
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studio-user464anyone having wifi problems after lastest updates02:17
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kiritoThe capture session could not be initiated on interface 'wlp2s0' (You don't have permission to capture on that device). Please check to make sure you have sufficient permissions, and that you have the proper interface or pipe specified.02:47
kiritoAnyone know why this is showing? I am a admin02:48
kiritoaccount02:48
kiritowireshark02:48
kiritotried using sudo & root account and it still doesn't work, it gives me an error02:49
kiritocan anyone help?02:49
Duckpiclear02:51
guiver_dkirito: i don't know, but i thought you had the option on install to have a 'wireshark' group that has access to use it - maybe make yourself part of that group (I've never explored this or taken notice of what the change was)02:55
master79@littless do u c m额?02:56
littless@master79 咩?02:58
master79@littless how‘s ur work going03:01
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jadahey, I'm trying to install notepadqq; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:notepadqq-team/notepadqq <- is that obsolete?03:06
krytarik!info notepadqq03:07
ubottuPackage notepadqq does not exist in bionic03:07
jadaso building from source is the only option?03:08
krytarikNo, that was to check if the PPA is still needed - which it is.03:10
guivercjada: krytarik i'm fully verse with ppa's but i see a directory for bionic, and a version of notepadqq (https://launchpad.net/~notepadqq-team/+archive/ubuntu/notepadqq)  dated 2018-05-02  1.4.4.1~bionic103:10
guivercsorry - i'm NOT fully verse with ppa's...03:11
lokhambhello, I am using ubuntu 18.04 and I want to know how to install drivers for graphics and sound.03:11
guiverclokhamb: i can only provide a clue; I `sudo lshw -C video` to get info on the hardware I'm using (replace video with 'sound' for audio) and search online for a web site with clues  (if my hardware isn't detected). The chips (chipset) used by your hardware matter more in my experience than the brand/model of cards used03:15
guiverclokhamb: lshw = list hardware, -C limits it to a class of hardware you tell it...03:16
lokhambok03:17
guiverclokhamb: if you wait you may get someone able to walk you thru; sorry that's not me :(03:20
data09tomyren: thanks for your help on UTC time earlier. i set it to UTC but forgot to change the system date as well. once i did that it updated.03:20
lokhambok03:22
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lokhambI am getting this message. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G6bBJFtrgC/plain/03:26
guiverclokhamb: your video is recognized & an i915 driver is used; your audio is recognized and snd_hda_intel driver is used - both look like motherboard 'cards' (and intel) and okay to me03:28
acv_I've been having problems making an m2 SSD bootable. Should I choose the "something else" option and set my own partitions? If so what should I choose on a 250gb SSD?03:30
lokhambguiverc: so do I need extra drivers to install?03:31
guiverclokhamb: in my opinion no, if you get sound, and can see & are happy - i'd leave it as it is.03:32
UserUSyou'd need a swap for ram, ext4 for the hard drive size, and a boot partition 500 mb03:32
UserUSacv_: and home if you want03:33
guiverclokhamb: in my experience sound may be different (tinny) to a windoze os as lenovo (I think i saw) put some effort in a specific driver for each laptop to try & make it sound less crap/tinny; where as Ubuntu (or GNU/Linux) use a driver based on chip - but you fine tune that in your software (music player etc)03:34
lokhambguiverc: Actually I am not getting the sound properly. It is not as loud as I have heard in windows.03:34
acv_UserUS: thank you I will try.03:35
lokhambguiverc: okay, I got it.03:36
guiverclokhamb: fine tune that with software; i like audacious (a Qt based player, even if I use xfce) as I can fine-tune the audio to better suit.. but you just play until you're happy. you can increase volume past 100% too (as lenovoa windoze may have used), but just don't go too loud (distortion or potential for damage to speakers)03:37
lokhambokay03:43
qwebirc87715When your too scared to say something so you say something about you being too scared to say something.03:59
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PayneMusicallydid everyone see what nickserv sent?04:02
krytarikNope.04:03
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oerheksif you are unsure, never send nickserv commands in a channel04:03
PayneMusicallyFew I was gonna freak. thank you for answering.04:04
oerheksone type and we all shout change password04:04
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oerheksChef1, try the #bash channel04:07
Chef1good idea04:07
oerheksstupid miners that want it all for free, go learn a program language first04:08
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PayneMusicallyok. thank you for telling me to register.04:11
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Abhijithi04:23
Abhijitis there any Gnome3 plugin, which will let me turn on or off all audio inputs - earphone + inbuilt mic etc - using one single visual button?04:23
qwebirc33396After updating regular update my ubuntu system behaviour changed and getting hanged04:30
qwebirc33396ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.4.0.13004:31
qwebirc33396System boots up properly, some applications are opened and along command line terminal04:32
qwebirc33396then when i try to minimize all my windows at last i see my system getting hanged04:33
tomreynqwebirc33396: the last part sounds like what you'd expect?04:33
tomreynoh you weren't done04:33
qwebirc33396desktop background become black with no right click control04:34
tomreyncheck your system logs for the timestamps around the time it happened last. sudo less /var/log/syslog04:34
oerheksAbhijit, you can define a key yourself, the code for that would be: amixer sset Master toggle04:34
Abhijitoerheks, thanks.04:36
oerheksAbhijit, not sure this implies the mic too...04:37
oerheksnope :-(04:37
qwebirc33396tomreyn, nothing. logs are their but no such information related why it is getting hanged. i'm losing system control for 2 or 3 minutes but i can see mouse motions04:39
tomreynqwebirc33396: this happens now?04:40
tomreynor before you latest reboot?04:40
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qwebirc33396tomreyn: every time. yesterday i update my system since then i have reboot 4-5 times but still behaviour persist04:41
tomreynqwebirc33396: did it happen since you last rebooted?04:43
ai_where do i ask about by touchpad proplem?it stopped working after login awhile( happens on all distros)04:44
qwebirc33396yes. right now i have four active windows open. i'm minimizing all windows one by one. by the time i reach fourth windows my system getting hanged. i have enough RAM and HDD space04:45
tomreynqwebirc33396: can you run this and paste the HTTP address here: dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 999904:46
Chon_Leehow do I disable the graphic during boot up... not X but just the rotating dots?04:55
oerheksChon_Lee,  remove splash from the grub commandline, see the grub manual04:56
oerheks!grub04:56
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub204:56
Chon_Leethanks!04:56
scientesI just used the default ubuntu CD and my systemd didn't boot afterwards04:56
scientesI had to install (manually) grub-efi-amd64, and then it worked (that was a guess, thank god it worked!)04:57
scientesvia chroot04:57
Chon_Leesomething is hanging up the boot and it takes forever... I figure if I can see what's going on I can figure this out.04:57
oerheksChon_Lee, you might want to remove quiet too, then04:58
Chon_Leeok04:58
pjsIs there anyone that can help me with a fresh install, hangs on grub boot.. I've ran boot-repair, reinstalled the OS, used gparted to delete all partitions, reinstall again, then run boot-repair again.. same thing. Debug info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3fHXHYzpQP/04:59
scientespjs, what worked for me was to chroot in (non-trivial) and then install grub-efi-amd6405:00
ai_newbies here , pls help with my touchpad05:00
scientesI was suprised that a default install wouldn't boot05:00
scientesai_, what about your touchpad, explain the problem05:00
ai_it stopped working after login for a while05:01
pjsscientes: Sorry I'm coming back to Linux on my workstation after 15 years in OS X. So it's all a bit fuzzy. I use the chroot program then install grub-efi-amd64? using apt-get?05:02
undru05:03
ai_scientes: clicking does work. but it doen't move05:03
osp2anyone have suggestions for a terminal emulator for an absolute linux noob? I'm used to iterm2 on macos if that helps narrow down suggestions05:04
pjsosp2, I personally like suckless terminal (st) but it's extremely basic.05:05
undдайте русский канал05:05
pjsSo you may not like it as a newb05:05
osp2ah ok05:05
qwebirc9393tomreyn: i can't paste dmesg logs. i don't see any kernel crash or oops.05:06
scientespjs, you use the chroot command to get into your installed system even through it doesn't boot05:07
scienteshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot05:07
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tomreynqwebirc9393: dmesg is a command you can run, it will definitely generate output, and you can post that.05:08
scientesai_, its probably turned off cause people have trouble moving it while trying to type05:08
scientespjs, while running the ubuntu live cd....this is again non-trivial, I was pissed the default cd didn't work for me----ubuntu was always the easiest to install in years past05:09
pjsscientes: I can boot the system from grub by setting prefix, root, then insmod linux and normal.. then it boots05:09
pjsscientes: ah ok! I understand05:09
tomreynqwebirc9393: since you said this only happens since you upgraded to kernel 4.4.0.130, maybe you still have an olde rone and can boot this so you can get a stable system now (and verify it is indeed related to the newer kernel image).05:09
qwebirc9393tomreyn: dmesg print kernel logs. i have seen the logs no issue in kernel side.05:10
pjsscientes: thanks man. I'll give it a shot05:11
tomreynqwebirc9393: it does more than that, also tells us which hardware and firmware you run. but if you prefer nto to post that it's okay. it just makes it hard to support you if we can't know what's going wrong there.05:12
tomreynqwebirc9393: you can also check /var/log/Xorg.*.log.* and ~/.xsession-errors* for issues05:12
scientespjs, also run grub-install05:12
pjsscientes: will do. I'll let you know how it goes05:16
RandolfChon_Lee:  Check if it's lvmetad.  That delays the boot for me every time for approximately 45 seconds.05:37
Chon_Leenah it's snapd05:37
RandolfI've asked about it before, and nobody seems to know what it does.  I don't know if it's safe to remove it.05:37
RandolfOh, snapd?05:37
RandolfOh well, it's good that you figured it out.05:37
Chon_Leesec... gonna paste logs and see if someone can help05:38
tomreynRandolf: you can check for yourself what's making the boot slow: "sudo systemd-analyze blame" and "sudo systemd-analyze critical-chain"05:39
tomreynthe lvmetad warning can be ignored, it just happens to be printed there at the time somethign else is slow to start up.05:40
tomreynlvmetad is a new way to manage logical volumes (LVM2), it just doesn't work that early in the boot, causing this warning.05:41
Randolftomreyn:  Thanks.  Those are useful things to know.  Everything looks fine, and most things are less than 1 second.  There are a few items that are up to 6 seconds, but that's not the delay I'm experiencing.05:44
Randolftomreyn:  When I watch the boot messages (I have those turned on), it all gets stuck waiting for lvmetad to respond, and that takes up to 45 seconds.05:44
RandolfSo it does a scan of devices.05:44
RandolfLocal scan or something like that.05:44
RandolfI can't find it in the dmesg output.05:44
RandolfBut it shows up on the screen during boot.05:45
RandolfWhen I first installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on this system, this delay wasn't present.  It only started after the first or second batch of updates.05:45
Chon_Leesnapd is failing on boot up with [FAILED] Failed to start Snappy daemon, See 'systemct1 status snapd.service' and it waits 1.5 mins each attempt for like 5 or 6 attempts. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d6HQQChsRb/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6KTzqstBj7/05:46
tomreynRandolf: this may be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/177982705:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1779827 in linux (Ubuntu) "failure to boot with linux-image-4.15.0-24-generic" [Critical,In progress]05:46
qwebirc47010hello i need help please i can't create user in postgresql msf its my error root@b4b4nn:/home/b4b4n# createuser msf -P -S -R -D Warning: No existing local cluster is suitable as a default target. Please see man pg_wrapper(1) how to specify one. Error: You must install at least one postgresql-client-<version> package05:51
tomreynChon_Lee: may be the same for you.05:51
qwebirc47010oh anyone is here ?05:53
tomreynqwebirc47010: the error message is pretty clear. "you must install at least one postgresql-client-<version> package". this is not #metasploit, htough05:53
qwebirc47010okey and now what i can to do for fix this problem ?05:54
tomreynqwebirc47010: apt cache search 'postgresql-client' | grep ^postgresql-client05:54
Randolftomreyn:  I'm booting okay.  (Wow, that's a lot of discussion on that link.)05:55
qwebirc47010its command ? i type this command in my terminal ?05:55
tomreynqwebirc47010: yes. this should return a list of packages you could examine further to install the postgrsql cxlient matching your postgresql server version.05:56
tomreynqwebirc47010: but i shouldn't need to tell this someone who is going to work with this software.05:57
tomreynRandolf: didn't you say it take s along time to boot?05:57
qwebirc47010@tomreyn thansk for help i know you don't need to tell me but im very need help :)05:58
qwebirc47010root@b4b4nn:/home/b4b4n# apt cache search 'postgresql-client' | grep ^postgresql-client  WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.05:58
qwebirc47010oh :(05:58
Chon_Leeok it appears I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/177994805:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1779948 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Snapd gets stuck when starting Ubuntu." [Undecided,Confirmed]05:59
tomreynqwebirc47010: i missed a hyphon: apt-cache search 'postgresql-client' | grep ^postgresql-client06:00
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PayneMusicallyFor some reason when I install ubuntu through my usb flash drive it boots into grub, and ubuntu is not anywhere in the boot options.06:01
Randolftomreyn:  Yeah, when it gets stuck at not getting a response from lvmetad.  Everything else just zips along rapidly like there's no tomorrow.06:01
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tomreynRandolf: which kernel version is this?06:02
tomreyncat /proc/version06:02
tomreynRandolf: also, how many days has this been happening for now06:03
RandolfDamn.  Xterm won't let me copy the text to the clipboard.  I'll paste it as soon as I get it.06:03
tomreyn(just roughly)06:04
tomreyn!pastebinit | Randolf06:04
ubottuRandolf: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit06:04
RandolfLinux version 4.15.0-24-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-056) (gcc version 7.3.0 (Ubuntu 7.3.0-16ubuntu3)) #26-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 13 08:44:47 UTC 201806:05
guivercPayneMusically: did you install grub (when you installed Ubuntu?) or rely on an existing grub used by another OS already on your system  (which can't know about system installed after itself)06:05
Randolf(I used Far Manager for Linux.)06:05
Randolftomreyn:  This has been going on since last week, I don't remember which day.06:05
tomreynRandolf: do you still have 4.15.0-23-generic instealled?06:08
tomreynRandolf: if so, boot into that and see if it takes just as long.06:08
Randolftomreyn:  I'll do that after my next backup, which will be tomorrow sometime.06:14
Randolftomreyn:  The reason I turned on the displaying of text output during the boot process (pre-GUI start) was so that I could see what the delay during the boot process was.06:18
RandolfSo, it probably has been going on since before last week.06:18
RandolfI don't see GRUB's output though.  Just everything after that, I guess.06:18
RandolfUnless GRUB doesn't ever display output to the console?  I don't know.06:19
tomreynRandolf: there's no output from grub other than the two lines about loading your linux image and initrd, unless you hold shift to bring up its menu.06:21
ddoobbHow can you backup an EOL release system? I can't seem to install my backup software (veeam) because it needs some packages that can't be installed (because EOL)06:35
_KaszpiR_you use different backup solution, mr Obvious for the rescue06:36
ddoobbNone will work. All need at least some dependencies06:37
ddoobbAnd you can't install a single package on this thing06:37
_KaszpiR_is it bare metal or virtual, can you turn off the sytstem for the time of backup?06:37
ddoobbIt is bare metal. I don't know what the second thing means. Do you mean backup by live USB or something?06:38
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EriC^^ddoobb: you can install stuff if you edit the sources from archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com06:41
EriC^^the repos get moved there on EOL06:41
arunkumar413I'm on USB live stick on mac mini06:44
arunkumar413But wifi isn't detecting06:44
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ddoobbEriC^^: Thanks that's just what I needed.06:52
tomreynarunkumar413: use a wire ;)06:54
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qwebirc1136For some reason after a fresh install of Ubuntu it always boots into grub. It doesn't matter if I delete grub and Ubuntu before reinstalling after a restart it boots right into grub.07:35
qwebirc1136And when I try to force it to boot into Ubuntu it says I need to run the kernal first because it's a fresh install.07:35
qwebirc1136I tried to enable legacy boot options but my bios won't let me it tells me to disable secure boot when it is already disabled.07:37
qwebirc1136I am running Ubuntu 18.0407:38
qwebirc1136Well atleast trying to.07:39
baakohi guys how do i change owner of a folder and all the sub folders and files inside it?07:39
ducassebaako: chmod -R /path/to/folder07:40
baakoducasse: think that changes the permission not a the owner07:40
ducassechown, sorry07:40
tomreynyou also need to provide the user, group, or both to change ownership to.07:41
tomreynexample: chown -R someuser:somegroup /path/to/folder07:42
baakothanks ducasse down07:42
tomreynqwebirc1136: whats your hardware?07:43
qwebirc1136Tomreyn: Intel core i5. 12 GBS of ram. GTX 745. 2 TB hard drive. And the computer is manufactured by HP if that helps.07:43
tomreynqwebirc1136: when you say "it boots into grub", do you mean you are stuck at the grub menu, or grub CLI (which one)?07:43
qwebirc1136Cli07:44
tomreynqwebirc1136: can you provide the HP model # ?07:44
ducasseno errors?07:44
qwebirc1136Ok one second07:44
tomreynqwebirc1136: the dmidecode command can probably tell us if you'd like to prevent moving things around.07:46
tomreynsudo dmidecode --type system07:46
qwebirc1136Ok 1 second07:47
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qwebirc1136Hp-750-20907:49
qwebirc1136Tomreyn: hp-750-20907:50
tomreynqwebirc1136: okay, and it just drops you to grub CLI without any error merssages?07:51
qwebirc1136Yeah07:51
tomreyni cant seem to find this model07:51
qwebirc1136I'll find it 1 second07:51
qwebirc1136On HP's website07:52
qwebirc1136https://support.hp.com/ca-en/document/c0495979207:52
EriC^qwebirc1136: are you booted in ubuntu right now?07:52
tomreynthanks07:52
qwebirc1136I currently can't get into Ubuntu I am stuck in grub07:53
EriC^qwebirc1136: try typing "normal"07:53
EriC^is it grub> or grub rescue> ?07:53
qwebirc1136Gnu grub version 2.0207:53
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EriC^what does the prompt say?07:54
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tomreynleft of the cursor07:54
qwebirc1136Minimal bash-like line editing is supported. For the first word, tab lists possible command completions. Anywhere else tab lists possible device or file completions.07:55
qwebirc1136That's all that is says. And it just says grub next to where you type.07:55
EriC^ok so it's grub>07:55
EriC^qwebirc1136: try typing "normal" and press enter07:55
qwebirc1136I did and nothing happened07:55
EriC^then try "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"07:55
qwebirc1136Ok it brought me into a new area that just says grub>07:56
EriC^qwebirc1136: aha interesting07:56
EriC^qwebirc1136: type "ls /boot"07:57
qwebirc1136Error: can't find command '1s'07:57
EriC^ls small L07:57
qwebirc1136I'm so dumb07:57
qwebirc1136Ok07:57
EriC^happens07:57
qwebirc1136Error: file /boot not found.07:58
EriC^qwebirc1136: aha, try "echo $root"07:58
qwebirc1136Hd1,gpt107:58
EriC^ok, try "ls (hd1,gpt1)/boot"07:59
EriC^actually try "ls (hd1,gpt1)/"07:59
qwebirc1136System efi/ system volume information08:00
EriC^interesting stuff08:00
EriC^so your efi partition seems to be instead of the root fs08:00
EriC^qwebirc1136: anyways lets get this booted and then we'll try to troubleshoot from within ubuntu08:00
qwebirc1136Ok thank you.08:00
EriC^qwebirc1136: type "ls"08:01
tomreynstandard hard disk according to product specs https://support.hp.com/ca-en/product/hp-envy-750-200-desktop-pc-series/9259609/model/10218185/document/c0495979208:01
EriC^actually, type "ls -l" qwebirc113608:01
EriC^look for any ext* listed partitions08:02
qwebirc1136(hd0) (hd0,msdos11) (hd1) (hd1,gpt6) (hd1,gpt5) ohh.. ok08:02
tomreynbios update changelog does not list any related fixes: https://support.hp.com/ca-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-envy-750-200-desktop-pc-series/9259609/model/1021818508:02
qwebirc1136Error can't find file name -108:02
qwebirc1136I mean -l08:03
tomreyndo you have another storage attached to the computer? like a usb stick / pen drive, or external hdd?08:03
qwebirc1136I do not have anything external attached to the computer08:04
EriC^qwebirc1136: ah, what were the stuff listed for hd1 earlier?08:04
EriC^hd1,gpt6 hd1,gpt5 any others?08:04
EriC^is it 1 til 6 ?08:04
qwebirc1136Yes it is 1 till 608:04
qwebirc1136And HD2. And hd0(msdos11)08:05
qwebirc1136(hd0,msdos1) sorry typing on phone.08:05
EriC^hmm odd anyways qwebirc1136 type "ls (hd1,gpt5)/boot"08:06
EriC^if we're lucky you should see some files listed08:06
lessthan0ls -l should not generate an error08:06
EriC^lessthan0: yeah sometimes it works and other times it has made errors08:07
qwebirc1136Error unknown filesystem.08:07
EriC^i was told once uefi grub has ls -l but legacy doesnt but i dont think that's the case08:07
lessthan0I don't think you typed ls -l08:07
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok try "ls (hd1,gpt3)/"08:07
lessthan0it must be super old08:07
lessthan0or some very basic version of ls to save space08:08
qwebirc1136Error unknown file system08:08
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok, try "ls (hd1,gpt4)/"08:08
lessthan0can you type sudo apt-cache policy ls08:08
lessthan0or ls -v08:08
qwebirc1136Same thing error unknown file system08:08
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok try with "ls (hd1,gpt2)/"08:09
lessthan0try to get the version of ls08:09
EriC^lessthan0: he's still in the grub prompt08:09
lessthan0I want to know what old ls you have08:09
qwebirc1136I am stuck in grub at the moment unable to boot into ubuntu08:09
lessthan0ls -v maybe08:09
qwebirc1136Error unknown filesystem again08:09
lessthan0if you can ls you can ls -v08:09
lessthan0hmmmm08:09
lessthan0I know there are no man files in the basic shell08:10
EriC^qwebirc1136: is it an lvm install? encrypted install? etc08:10
qwebirc1136Ls -v gives me the error invalid file name. And no this install is not encrypted at all.08:10
EriC^qwebirc1136: actually try this "insmod ext2"08:10
lessthan0I guess I could look up the grub documentation08:10
lessthan0grub2?08:10
EriC^yes lessthan008:10
qwebirc1136insmod ext2 doesn't do anything at all08:11
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok that means it worked08:11
EriC^is windows installed next to ubuntu?08:11
lessthan0well if this is happening in grub then grub can't mount or does not have a mapper for that fs08:11
qwebirc1136Yes it is installed next to Ubuntu.08:11
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EriC^qwebirc1136: ok cool so windows must be gpt2 then08:12
lessthan0does the grub shell have fdisk -l08:12
faceymcfacehi08:12
EriC^did you do any custom partitioning in ubuntu or used the standard install?08:12
faceymcfaceahh... just realised this is mint...08:12
faceymcfacecan I get help here08:12
qwebirc1136I just let Ubuntu do the partitoning08:12
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok great, which ubuntu? 18.04?08:12
qwebirc1136Yup08:13
EriC^awesome08:13
faceymcfaceI've got this weird issue that after login, the screen suddenly blanks08:13
EriC^qwebirc1136: try "ls (hd1,gpt6)/"08:13
lessthan0is there a mint channel?08:13
tomreynlessthan0: grub shell does not have fdisk, it is more limited than busybox.08:13
tomreyn!mint  | lessthan008:13
TheWildhello08:13
ubottulessthan0: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)08:13
qwebirc1136Ohh some files popped up08:13
EriC^qwebirc1136: awesome08:13
EriC^qwebirc1136: type "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/boot/grub.cfg"08:14
tomreynfaceymcface: see what ubottu just wrote08:14
lessthan0I was asking for faceymcface08:14
faceymcfaceso I'm using a virtual terminal on Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6], and seeing the login screen on F8, but when I login, it goes in and I see the mouse, then suddenly the screen blanks08:14
faceymcfaceok08:14
oerheksfaceymcface, mint has its own issues08:14
lessthan0thats an xorg problem08:14
lessthan0and a mint problem08:14
faceymcfaceyes08:14
lessthan0and a gnome problem08:14
faceymcfaceyes08:14
qwebirc1136EriC^: it just pops up a page with just Grub> on it08:15
lessthan0try #gnome08:15
oerheksgood luck in ##linuxmint08:15
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok i guess the config is missing08:15
TheWildon fresh Windows installation, the list of installed software is empty, so it's easy if I install something and forget to remove. On Ubuntu I can "dpkg -l", but how I can know what packages were installed right after installation of Ubuntu?08:15
EriC^qwebirc1136: try "set root='(hd1,gpt6)'"08:15
tomreynEriC^: should it not be "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/grub/grub.cfg"08:16
lessthan0brute force mount08:16
lessthan0try them all08:16
EriC^tomreyn: yes! my bad thanks08:16
EriC^qwebirc1136: try "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"08:16
qwebirc1136EriC^: nothing happened08:16
TheWildwhen I do cleanup, I would like to know that given package is what I installed, or maybe it is something that was here from the beginning or maybe it's a dependency other program require?08:16
lessthan0grub has vi right?08:16
lessthan0and only vi08:17
faceymcfacebah, no web portal for spotchat08:17
qwebirc1136EriC^: i did that and it booted into a blue screen that says gnu/Linux and now it's booting Into ubuntu!08:17
EriC^qwebirc1136: awesome08:17
tomreynTheWild: that's the best way i'm aware of https://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages08:18
EriC^ok, i will brb in 1min to make a quick smoothie or something,08:18
qwebirc1136Ok08:18
tomreyngood job you two, EriC^ + qwebirc1136 :)08:19
tomreynqwebirc1136: dont reboot for now.08:19
qwebirc1136I am so happy that I am in Ubuntu rn. And I don't plan to reboot don't worry.08:20
TheWildtomreyn. I think I'll compare the list manually. Can the list fluctuate if installed or another computer?08:20
tomreynqwebirc1136: :) this computer has an uncommon hardware configuration. the little i understood is that you have two storages, but the first one is somewhat special, and the second one actually contains ubuntu and windows.08:22
qwebirc1136That's weird08:22
EriC^qwebirc1136: im back08:23
EriC^qwebirc1136: let's see why grub is so confused first so we cone hone down on the issue for sure08:23
tomreynTheWild: first of all, the list of 'manually installed packages' created by the command listed in the first answer on the page i posted is not precise, it will list packages you did not actually install manually.08:23
qwebirc1136EriC^: ok thank you.08:24
EriC^qwebirc1136: try "cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you08:24
faceymcfacemint devs seem to be asleep08:24
EriC^(does it have internet connection? the command sends stuff to a pastebin)08:24
oerheksfaceymcface, another good reason to wipe your hdd and install ubuntu08:24
tomreynTheWild: as long as you install the same ubuntu version and variant on the same type of hardware with the same type of boot mechanism (eufi / bios), the list should be the same, i think.08:24
qwebirc1136EriC^: do I do that in grub or terminal?08:25
EriC^qwebirc1136: in the terminal, you need an internet connection though08:25
tomreynTheWild: that's also assuming you made the same configuration choices during installation08:25
TheWildmeh, I won't wipe my current installation just to know that08:25
qwebirc1136EriC^: ok then I gotta log into this IRC chat through ubuntu08:25
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EriC^qwebirc1136: actually you need to prefix the command with sudo08:25
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok cool08:25
TheWildI found something like this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.4/ubuntu-16.04.4-desktop-amd64.manifest08:26
TheWildis that what 'Try Ubuntu' system contains or what is supposed to be less or more after installation?08:26
qwebirc85880OK this is me on the computer08:28
qwebirc1136EriC^: ok I am on the computer now08:28
oerheksTheWild, no, that is all what is available on the disc, standard you would not have build-essentials08:29
oerheksand some more08:29
EriC^qwebirc1136: ok, cool08:29
EriC^qwebirc1136: type "sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"08:29
TheWildmeh, then I have to track down my .bash_history, hoping that nothing has been lost from it08:30
qwebirc85880<EriC^> no such file or directory08:30
qwebirc85880this is me on the computer08:30
EriC^qwebirc85880: aha08:30
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EriC^that must be the issue i guess, let's confirm try "ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu | nc termbin.com 9999"08:31
TheWildthanks tomreyn and oerheks08:31
TheWildkind of inconvenience from apt though08:32
qwebirc85880http://termbin.com/fg4508:32
Big_Zampanoif you remove the desktop environment and all the graphical style user interfaces will you run into problems?08:32
qwebirc85880EriC^: Thats the output it gave me.08:32
EriC^qwebirc85880: ok, that's kind of odd cause there's no grubx64.efi there (the pc uses that to load grub first)08:32
tomreynthat snot much08:32
Big_ZampanoI want to go back to a texbased ubuntu08:32
EriC^qwebirc85880: try "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"08:32
qwebirc85880sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999908:33
qwebirc85880oops08:33
qwebirc85880http://termbin.com/ll4u08:33
qwebirc85880copied wrong part of terminal08:33
Big_Zampanoso that my server has even lest resources wasted on the destop eviromen since i never use the servers desto invirome08:33
tomreynBig_Zampano: you can do that. remove ubuntu-desktop\* and xserver-xorg\*08:34
EriC^qwebirc85880: ok, it lists grub as an option pointing to some hd, i wonder which partition that is, try "sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999"08:34
Big_Zampanotomyreyn and it wont cause conflicts with unrelated software?08:34
qwebirc85880http://termbin.com/0yb008:34
EriC^qwebirc85880: ah i see the confusion, it uses /boot/efi/efi/grub instead of ../ubuntu08:34
tomreynBig_Zampano: that'd be a broad statement to make, but it should not.08:35
EriC^qwebirc85880: try "sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"08:35
Big_Zampanotomreyn i see, thanks !!08:35
qwebirc85880http://termbin.com/jpt408:36
tomreynBig_Zampano: if you're able to manage the system without a graphical user interface, and have the means to access it without a graphical user interface installed, and the network configuration does not depend on the desktop user logging in, then you should be fine.08:36
qwebirc85880EriC^: Thats the output.08:37
EriC^qwebirc85880: that looks right, it points to the ubuntu partition and uses gpt6, odd08:37
EriC^anyways let's try to reinstall grub and hope for the best and see what happens08:37
EriC^qwebirc85880: try "sudo grub-install"08:37
qwebirc85880ok it is installing, I also wanted to mention for some reason in bios boot options ubuntu doesn't show up only grub.08:38
qwebirc85880EriC^: Ok it says installation finished. No error reported.08:39
EriC^qwebirc85880: cool, type "sudo update-grub"08:39
qwebirc85880ok it is updating grub08:39
qwebirc85880ok it is done updating grub08:39
qwebirc85880EriC^: should I also update all the software within ubuntu itself?08:40
EriC^qwebirc85880: ok, type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"08:40
EriC^qwebirc85880: sure it won't harm08:40
qwebirc85880http://termbin.com/jd1p08:41
qwebirc1136It looks like amd64 is now there.08:42
qwebirc1136It looks like amd64 is now there.08:42
EriC^aha great08:42
qwebirc85880sorry phones lagging08:43
EriC^qwebirc1136: once it's done updating and stuff try rebooting08:43
qwebirc85880ok I will. it should be done soon08:43
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qwebirc85880ok rebooting noiw08:48
qwebirc33674I cant08:49
qwebirc33674I accidently closed my phone's web browser so now I am a different nickname. It popped up gnu grub again08:49
EriC^damn08:50
EriC^ok, what does "echo $root" give?08:50
Januarywhy does `sudo` require network on a freshly installed 18.04 system, and how can I disable this?08:50
qwebirc33674<EriC^>: HD0,gpt108:50
EriC^hmm, that's the esp08:50
EriC^so odd08:51
oerheksJanuary, sudo does not need networking, except if you do sudo apt install <something>08:51
EriC^qwebirc33674: what does "echo $prefix" give?08:51
oerheksthen apt wants networking08:51
Januaryno08:52
qwebirc33674(hd0,gpt1)/EFI/ubuntu08:52
qwebirc33674<EriC^> it gives that08:52
JanuaryI'm running `sudo echo hi` and it hangs08:52
oerheksJanuary, oh, so it does not complain about networking, good.08:52
EriC^qwebirc33674: wow so odd08:52
EriC^qwebirc33674: maybe some other efi file is being booted or something?08:52
Januaryoerheks: no, but adding a route for my hostname in /etc/hosts makes `sudo` not hang08:53
qwebirc33674This is so frustrating08:53
Januaryso it must be trying to use network in some capacity08:53
EriC^qwebirc33674: i wonder where it's getting these instructions for $root and $prefix, it's supposed to set them from this file we checked http://termbin.com/jpt408:53
oerheksbtw sudo echo hi should just print hi08:53
EriC^qwebirc33674: anyways, type "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg" and boot ubuntu again08:53
EriC^maybe we can spot something from there08:53
Januaryoerheks: yes, I know. The issue is that without a route for my `$HOSTNAME` in `/etc/hosts`, `sudo echo hi` will hang.08:54
qwebirc33674<EriC^> doing that just brings me to a area with just grub> on it08:55
qwebirc33674It's not booting into Ubuntu for some reason08:55
EriC^qwebirc33674: hmm, are you sure there was no typo?08:56
qwebirc33674I am sure08:56
EriC^it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg ok08:56
EriC^the only different thing we did before was "set root='(hd1,gpt6)'"08:56
EriC^try running that then "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"08:56
qwebirc33674Not booting08:57
qwebirc33674<EriC^>: is there anything else I can do?08:58
EriC^qwebirc33674: ok, let's try something, reboot the pc and spam F9 you should get a one time boot menu08:58
qwebirc33674Ok08:58
EriC^choose the browse option, then browse to efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi or so08:58
EriC^or possibly efi/grub/shimx64.efi08:58
qwebirc33674Ok I am in boot options08:59
qwebirc33674In bios08:59
qwebirc33674The f9 thing08:59
qwebirc33674And there is only grub. Windows boot manager. And 2 uefis.08:59
EriC^ok, is there a 'load file' or browse?08:59
EriC^aha08:59
EriC^try the "grub"08:59
qwebirc33674Brought me to the gnu grub09:00
qwebirc33674<EriC^> welp09:01
EriC^qwebirc33674: ok, what were the other 2 uefi stuff?09:01
qwebirc33674Ipv4 and ipv6 <EriC^>09:01
EriC^im trying to make sure it's actually loading the efi file we're telling it to09:01
EriC^aha09:02
EriC^qwebirc33674: ok, let's try to boot grub manually and see how it goes09:02
EriC^qwebirc33674: type "set root='(hd1,gpt6)'"09:02
EriC^qwebirc33674: actually i remember now we also typed "normal"09:03
qwebirc33674<EriC^> what do I type next?09:03
EriC^try "normal" then "insmod ext2" then "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"    (after typing the set root command)09:03
EriC^normal09:03
qwebirc33674<EriC^> not working09:04
EriC^qwebirc33674: ok no problem09:04
qwebirc33674<EriC^> maybe updating grub changed its path how can we refund it's path09:04
qwebirc33674Refund*09:05
qwebirc33674Refind*09:05
qwebirc33674On a phone with autocorrect sorry09:05
EriC^qwebirc33674: type "linux /boot/vmlinuz<hit tab> and tab complete the version with newest09:05
EriC^qwebirc33674: dont hit enter yet09:05
EriC^qwebirc33674: so it's linux /boot/vmlinuz-23423423 root=/dev/sda609:06
EriC^then hit enter and type "initrd /boot/initrd.img<tab complete same version>" then type "boot"09:06
qwebirc33674Error: disk hd1,gpt6 not found09:06
EriC^(boot on a separate line)09:07
EriC^qwebirc33674: ah odd09:07
EriC^type "ls"09:07
qwebirc33674Hd0,gpt6 exsists09:07
EriC^ok great!09:07
qwebirc33674But not hd1,gpt609:07
EriC^type "configfile (hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"09:07
qwebirc33674Ok it's booting now09:08
EriC^cool09:08
qwebirc33674What do I do? <EriC^>09:09
qwebirc33674This is so frustrating.09:09
EriC^qwebirc33674: ok, try "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"09:10
EriC^i think it's booting the grub file for sure, since we used f9 and pointed it to it09:11
qwebirc52335OK I am on computer now09:11
qwebirc33674"ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 999909:12
qwebirc52335http://termbin.com/humrk09:13
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qwebirc33674<EriC^> ok that is the output.09:13
EriC^ok, so let's take a look at grub.cfg in boot, type "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"09:14
tomreynmaybe device.map would be of interest, too09:14
tomreynqwebirc33674: also: cat /boot/grub/device.map | nc termbin.com 999909:15
eraserpencilhi guys, i plugged in a usb and saw that dmesg indicates an over-current condition09:15
qwebirc52335<EriC^>: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 999909:15
eraserpencildoes that mean my kernel has a software sensor to detect current?09:15
qwebirc52335 <EriC^>:09:15
qwebirc52335omg 1 sec09:15
qwebirc52335http://termbin.com/chjlj09:15
qwebirc52335<EriC^>: Thats the output/09:16
EriC^hmm its interesting though it just occured to me, it's setting prefix to EFI/ubuntu even though we're using efi/grub, not sure how that relates to stuff though09:16
EriC^maybe that's some default setting it uses or... i dunno09:16
qwebirc15040My phone timed out I reconnected.09:17
qwebirc15040For some reason Firefox crashed09:18
EriC^qwebirc15040: hmm type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999"09:18
EriC^qwebirc15040: np09:18
qwebirc15040 [05:18] <EriC^> qwebirc15040: hmm type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999"09:19
qwebirc58881<EriC^>: http://termbin.com/yi5b09:20
EriC^qwebirc58881: try tomreyn 's command as well09:21
tomreyncat /boot/grub/device.map | nc termbin.com 999909:21
EriC^qwebirc58881: wow the file is pretty empty09:21
qwebirc58881cat: /boot/grub/device.map: No such file or directory09:22
EriC^!find /etc/default/grub09:22
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 229 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=/etc/default/grub&searchon=names&suite=bionic&section=all09:22
qwebirc58881  You have searched for packages that names contain /etc/default/grub in suite(s) bionic, all sections, and all architectures.  Sorry, your search gave no results09:23
tomreynqwebirc58881: please show: sudo grub-mkdevicemap --verbose --device-map=- 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999909:24
qwebirc58881http://termbin.com/hm8k09:25
qwebirc58881 <EriC^>: Welp....09:26
EriC^qwebirc58881: download this http://termbin.com/r4gr its a 18.04 default /etc/default/grub file09:26
qwebirc58881ok09:26
qwebirc58881how exactly do I download it..?09:26
EriC^type "sudo wget -O /etc/default/grub http://termbin.com/r4gr"09:26
qwebirc58881ok i downloaded it.09:27
EriC^qwebirc58881: ok, type "sudo update-grub"09:27
qwebirc58881ok.09:28
qwebirc58881did that.09:28
qwebirc58881<EriC^>: Do I reboot now?09:29
qwebirc58881.09:30
qwebirc58881just testing to make sure firefox didnt freeze again lol.09:30
medflyyellow, I'm trying to debug a problem, it says it dumped core, I've set ulimit -c unlimited, but I still can't find a core dump. Any idea?09:32
medflyoh, I actually finally found it, it has as weirdo name09:32
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EriC^^sorry dc09:32
medflyI expected something.core but it's called just 'core'09:32
EriC^^qwebirc15040: and also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" those might have changed since we last did grub-install09:32
EriC^qwebirc58881: first try "sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" one last time09:33
EriC^and also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" those might have changed since we last did grub-install09:33
qwebirc58881http://termbin.com/muci09:33
qwebirc58881http://termbin.com/3qis109:34
qwebirc58881When I updated the config file it gave me an error about grub timeout not being set to 009:34
qwebirc58881forgot to tell you.09:34
EriC^^qwebirc58881: i have an idea09:34
qwebirc58881whats the idea?09:34
EriC^^maybe the whole /grub stuff is confusing ubuntu's grub09:35
EriC^^i have a good feeling about this09:35
EriC^^qwebirc58881: try "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/grub/* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"09:35
qwebirc58881cp: cannot stat '/boot/efi/efi/grub/*': No such file or directory09:35
EriC^^qwebirc58881: oh sorry09:36
EriC^^type "sudo -i" then type "cp /boot/efi/efi/grub* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"09:36
EriC^^sorry 1 sec09:36
EriC^^type "sudo -i" then type "cp /boot/efi/efi/grub/* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"09:36
qwebirc58881ok nothing popped up after entering the second command09:36
EriC^^great09:37
qwebirc58881but I am in root atleast.09:37
EriC^^try rebooting09:37
qwebirc58881Ok i will09:37
qwebirc15040This is me on phone09:37
EriC^^ok09:37
qwebirc15040Yes!!!! I can boot directly into Ubuntu now!!!09:37
EriC^^yay!09:37
EriC^^awesome :D09:38
qwebirc15040I am so unbelievably happy thank you so much!09:38
EriC^^no problem!09:38
tomreyngreat job, EriC^^ !09:38
EriC^^thanks tomreyn09:38
qwebirc15040:)09:38
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PayneMusicallyMy browser kept crashing so I never had time to set my Nick properly hopefully it doesn't crash again09:40
PayneMusicallyTysm!!!09:40
tomreynPayneMusically: it may be necessary to do a couple more things to make this work reliably in the future, try to stay around for now.09:44
tomreynyou can install hexchat, an alternative irc client, if you web browser keeps crashing.09:44
PayneMusicallyIt seems to be fine now. And I can always reconnect09:45
PayneMusicallyIs hexchat avaliable for my phone?09:45
TheWildhow to install nonfree after Ubuntu installation from bash?09:46
guest_how to fix laggy video ?09:48
tomreynPayneMusically: no. you'll need to find a different irc client for your phone.09:49
waterCreaturehow do i install .tar file?09:49
waterCreatureit's not like .tar.gz or .tar.zip09:49
PayneMusicallyOhh ok. So what do I need to do to make this more reliable in the future?09:50
guest_please hepe me with gfx09:51
ShabbysheikwaterCreature: a tar is an archive, you will need to extract the contents first09:52
tomreynPayneMusically: i assume EriC^^ is currently still running some tests to come up with a good suggestion. i don't really have one, could just suggest to remove the /boot/efi/efi/grub directory (and the files in it). but don't do this just yet.09:54
PayneMusicallyOk09:55
guest_laggy video playback in ubuntu 18.04, using default video app09:56
Shabbysheikguest_: does the sound work fine when playing videos?10:00
guest_Shabbysheik: yes10:00
Shabbysheikguest_: use first answer on this page to fix https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030074/my-video-player-in-ubuntu-18-04-lts-lags10:01
guest_Shabbysheik: i am using laptop and RR is already 60.02 Hz10:03
guest_Shabbysheik: $glxgears 227 frames in 5.0 seconds = 45.260 FPS 201 frames in 5.0 seconds = 40.011 FPS10:06
guest_low frames in ubuntu 18.04 , i am using i5 6gen , hd520+amd r5m430 gfx . glxgears result : 285 frames in 5.0 seconds = 56.766 FPS  201 frames in 5.0 seconds = 40.005 FPS10:12
Shabbysheikguest_: seems like your problem is general low frames, not related to video specifically. Have you updated your drivers? using proprietary or free?10:17
guest_Shabbysheik: no10:18
guest_Shabbysheik: software update says system is up to date10:19
Shabbysheikguest_: try the propietary drivers and see if you get better performance https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux10:20
guest_Shabbysheik: no official drivers for R5 m430 ,  and others are very bad , it is possible to use intel card only ?10:21
Shabbysheikguest_: I don't know personally, don't have a dual card system, but I would guess you can blacklist the amd card which should force it to use intel only10:22
guest_Shabbysheik: then i need to install intel drivers ?10:23
Shabbysheikno need intel will already be there and loaded10:23
guest_in system about , it show intel card , but still getting low fps10:24
ankurh10:24
Shabbysheikguest_: sounds like you are getting low frames because your amd card isnt being used then matybe?10:25
guest_Shabbysheik: what should i do ?10:27
user0123Hi, I'm trying to figure out where calligraflow disappeared, it was available in 16.04, but not in 18.04, anyone knows what happened? (package dropped from distro?)10:28
Shabbysheikguest_: read up about hybrid gpu setups here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics10:28
guest_Shabbysheik: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1"  ?10:31
Shabbysheikguest_: if you want the intel card yes, use radeon if you want the AMD card10:33
zetherooHow does one find out when was the last time updates were installed on a system?10:35
guest_thanks10:37
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ducassezetheroo: see /var/log/apt/history.log10:47
zetheroo ducasse: does that only show which commands have been executed?10:47
ducassezetheroo: no10:49
sakhd_I have windows 10 installed and now I want to install ubuntu with disk encryption. But there is no choice to save win10 and install ubuntu with encryption10:49
sakhd_only: 1. win10 + ubuntu w/o enc. 2. ubuntu with enc.10:50
sakhd_how can I have both win10 and ubuntu with encryption?10:50
zetherooducasse: the file is empty here10:51
zetheroois that normal?10:51
ducassezetheroo: maybe it's just been rotated, look at the history.*.gz files in the same directory10:53
zetherooOk10:54
ppfwhat does ppa-purge do exactly10:56
BluesKajHowdy folks10:57
BluesKaj!ppa10:58
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge10:58
BluesKaj!ppa-purge10:58
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html10:58
BluesKajppf,^10:58
ppfyes, i know the abstract, but i need to do it by hand10:59
ppfi kinda deadlocked apt trying to upgrade cuda10:59
BluesKajclick on the yurl10:59
BluesKajurl10:59
ppfBluesKaj: that's for ppa-purge11:00
qwebirc52908hello i want format my ubuntu and install kali linux without usb and cd dvd anyone can help me ?11:00
ppf!kali11:00
ubottuThe Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)11:00
ppfBluesKaj: i know _what_ it does, but not _how_11:00
qwebirc52908please help me :(11:00
BluesKajppf, it removes the ppa s from your /etc/sources.list.d and removes asociated packages not needed otherwise11:01
qwebirc52908okey just tell me which way i can change my system to another linux without usb and cd11:02
BluesKaj /etc/apt/sources.list.d, ppf11:02
ppfyes, does it do anything besides run apt purge on all the packages the repo provides?11:03
qwebirc52908 thanks for fucking bitch support ubuntu :)11:05
ppfyou realize you're not asking for ubuntu support right11:05
qwebirc52908okey now i ask for ubuntu11:05
ducasseqwebirc52908: watch your language, and try #kali-linux11:06
qwebirc52908okey now im using linux mint :) which way i can change my system for ubuntu without usb and dvd11:06
ppf!mint11:07
ubottuThe Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)11:07
ducasseqwebirc52908: we don't support mint either11:07
qwebirc52908okey :) and :) you can tell me which way i can download and install w3af without anyyy problem11:08
qwebirc52908i try to install w3af but everytime have problem -_-11:08
ppfare you sure you should be dealing in software security if you can't install a piece of software?11:09
qwebirc52908yes im sure i can't install it :(11:09
ppfi see11:09
guiver_dqwebirc52908: w3af is available for 14.04 & 16.04 (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=w3af) so just `sudo apt install` if using them11:09
boxmeinqwebirc52908: the most normal way to transition from mint to ubuntu is just reinstall everything. next time put your user folder on a separate partition :P11:10
qwebirc52908sudo apt install w3af [sudo] password for b4b4n:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package w3af11:10
boxmeinqwebirc52908: if you know how, you can try to switch by reconfiguring and reinstalling stuff11:10
boxmeinqwebirc52908: and if you're trying to get pentesting tools, start from kali linux (not mint)11:11
guiver_dqwebirc52908: it's in universe; enable universe; sudo apt update; and then sudo apt install11:11
qwebirc52908oh thanks for all ! i go reset my ubuntu and i will back try to ask and try to install w3af11:12
boxmeinqwebirc52908: installing w3af is suggested anyway by downloading it from github and running directly11:12
boxmeinqwebirc52908: http://w3af.org/ check out the site's front page, it has scrolling cards, the 4th card has the info11:13
qwebirc52908boxmein i so try to download and installing it :) but i have last version i don't know why i have problem11:13
qwebirc52908okey11:13
qwebirc52908wait 10 minute i will back thanks11:13
rajendraexit11:21
FROZENanybody here?11:27
compdocwho wants to know?11:28
ask-ygU5AP56hey, how to configure wired connections via the new ubuntu/gnome shell?11:29
ask-ygU5AP56it worked fine in unity for say a usb modem or ethernet cable11:29
ask-ygU5AP56but now w/ the new version all I see is wifi and bluetooth11:29
ask-ygU5AP56no wired settings11:29
ask-ygU5AP56I can dhclient interface from terminal fine, just rather have a unified solution like nm-applet11:30
ppfask-ygU5AP56: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces11:30
ask-ygU5AP56it's empty, well, aside of the default hashed out info11:31
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, I want to use networkmanger anyway11:31
ask-ygU5AP56manager*11:31
ask-ygU5AP56it's just I see no settings for a wired connection in the new ubuntu 18.04 desktop11:31
ppfask-ygU5AP56: can you paste sudo lshw -c network11:32
ducasseask-ygU5AP56: what's in /etc/netplan?11:32
ask-ygU5AP56err, nothing I presume11:32
ask-ygU5AP56ducasse, there's one entry, but that I think is for the onboard ethernet11:33
BluesKajnetplan links to network-manager11:33
ask-ygU5AP56there's nothing in that file that I see to be connected with any of the interfaces I see w/ ifconfig11:34
ask-ygU5AP56I doubt it's a low level thing11:34
ask-ygU5AP56it's more of a new graphics choice for ubuntu and axing of unity11:34
ask-ygU5AP56I think11:34
ask-ygU5AP56since the interface is fine, it gets picked up fine11:34
ask-ygU5AP56I can dhclient it fine, manually11:34
ask-ygU5AP56only in settings, graphical settings, I fail to see any info about the aforementioned interface11:35
ask-ygU5AP56(an android phone plugged into usb)11:35
ask-ygU5AP56(acting as a modem)11:35
ask-ygU5AP56there's no old unity plugins. there's the new gnomish ones. there's no old control panel ,there's new gnomish one.11:36
ask-ygU5AP56i.e. no control of the devices like previously; what else could it be ?11:36
ask-ygU5AP56you guys have wired connection configurable via graphical interface in 18.04 ?11:37
ppfask-ygU5AP56: where's my lshw paste :)11:40
ppfask-ygU5AP56: from where did you upgrade to bionic?11:41
ppfdid you check whether the NM configs exclude your device?11:42
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steve_011hi12:09
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sa___Hi All, We are maintaining the out-of-tree drivers and I want to install these drivers by creating the deb package, how do I create a deb package for out-of-tree drivers?12:30
ppfsa___: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/12:31
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qwerty_i need help12:56
qwerty_my trackpad isnot wrking well in linux12:56
qwerty_why is that happening12:56
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dbsydI've installed fresh ubuntu 18.04, but when I boot i get a grub prompt ("..minimal BASH-like line editing is supported..."), boot-repair didn't help: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6Q3ndws93b/13:21
Xcytrehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6Q3ndws93b/13:22
aroradbsyd: Broken grub install13:24
dbsydarora: What can I do about it?13:26
retrowertzfix it?13:27
dbsydretrowertz: I don't know how :|13:27
aroraReinstall grub13:28
samcoldham1can anyone tell me whenever i join irc freenode it says this13:28
retrowertzthere should be a lot of similar methods to fix it.13:28
samcoldham1This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>13:28
retrowertzsomebody owns the nick you use13:28
arorasamcoldham1: What irc client?13:28
samcoldham1xchat cilent13:29
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, clean install, lshw is missing still since I doubt it's a hardware issue; I;ve yet to check whether the configs disable the device; BUT on 16.04 it's available and configurable right out the box.13:30
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, so not seeing it anywehere to config on a fresh 18.04 I think is a regression13:30
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, as mentioned, the hardware works fine13:30
* ask-ygU5AP56 installing ubuntu-unity-desktop13:31
ask-ygU5AP56will try and give it a go and see if the device is seen by nm-applet13:31
* ask-ygU5AP56 dislikes the gnome3 shell anyway13:31
Bugson_guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu server 18.04 on fresh machine in such scenario: standalone esp partition + raid partition, I'm creating md partitions which I serve to lvm, so my root partition is on lvm. I'm also using EFI and GPT patition schema. Ubuntu installs itself without a problem, after reboot it goes into grub prompt I tried to boot it manually from grub (where it sees every partitions including13:34
Bugson_lvm) but it ends up in initramfs, for test I did the same scenarion/partition schema on latest stable debian 9.4 and it works without any problems any idea what might be the issue?13:34
dbsydreinstalled grub, still geting sent to grub prompt at boot: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GrCKTgbjRm/13:43
Muimi1Weird question: do you guys know how to ask a seller of computer parts for a formula describing how many of their products fail over n years?13:43
Xcytrethere's always meantime before failure13:45
leftyfbMuimi1: that's not an ubuntu related question. Try #hardware13:45
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samcldham1ubuntu 18.10 whats the date it is realsed somewhere around mid october13:50
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dbsydBugson_: looks like we have the same issue - if I boot using the grub prompt I end in the initramfs too13:52
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ask-ygU5AP56ppf, weird; same thing in unity; looks then that the device doesn't get picked up by networkmanager13:54
ask-ygU5AP56ducasse, might be on to something13:54
ppfask-ygU5AP56: NM configs are in /etc/NetworkManager/ as well as /usr/lib/NetworkManager/13:55
ask-ygU5AP56well, it looks like networkmanager doesn't configure wired connections at all13:56
ppfnm-applet is just the UI for NM, the graphical shell doesn't matter really13:56
ask-ygU5AP56worked fine on 16.0413:56
Bugson_dbsyd, I was playing with it for 2 days, today I tried debian and You can imagine my frustration :/13:56
ppfask-ygU5AP56: why do you think that?13:56
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, cuz I see no wired connection settings?13:56
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, and it's a wired connection that doesn't come up13:56
ask-ygU5AP56in nm's settings13:56
ppfoaky13:56
ppfcan you please check the NM config files then?13:57
ask-ygU5AP56sure13:57
ask-ygU5AP56mind you, this is a clear install13:57
ppf/usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d and /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d13:57
ask-ygU5AP56from mini.iso; then apt install ubuntu-desktop13:57
bobthebuilder20Hello, currently running a Ubuntu 16.04 web server with proxy setup. Getting an proxy error HTTP: Failed to make connection to backend: localhost. Any suggestion in resolving this issue?13:57
ask-ygU5AP56default-wifi-powersave-on.conf in /etc/13:57
bobthebuilder20webserver is apache13:57
ask-ygU5AP56then unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan13:58
ask-ygU5AP56err13:58
ask-ygU5AP56cat  /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf13:58
ask-ygU5AP56[keyfile]13:58
ask-ygU5AP56unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan13:58
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, maybe this is what's causing issues?13:58
ask-ygU5AP56perhaps I oughta add except:type:lan ?13:58
leftyfbbobthebuilder20: try #ubuntu-server13:58
ppfask-ygU5AP56: or remove the file13:59
MibixFoxanyone know why I would get this when  using auto login with cinnamon DE https://imgur.com/a/fSY6xme13:59
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, it could be the mini.iso server heritage, no?13:59
MibixFoxboots fine if i use the login screen13:59
ppf(or comment out the contents)13:59
MibixFoxbut would like to auto login if possible so everything starts13:59
ppfask-ygU5AP56: not sure14:00
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, well. this is a fresh install. is that a bug then?14:00
bobthebuilder20Leftyfb: running ubuntu server14:00
bobthebuilder20Leftyfb, sorry didn't see the #14:00
dbsydOk, I can get it to boot using: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j89ZK9Jgdx/ but running update-grub in the booted system doesn't fix grub...14:00
dbsydBugson_: Does it work for you too?14:01
ppfask-ygU5AP56: not sure. does it help though?14:01
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, I think it might; will take a look at it14:01
ask-ygU5AP56I want to read up on it first14:01
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/163884214:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1676547 in network-manager (Ubuntu Yakkety) "duplicate for #1638842 No network connectivity (NIC unmanaged) after upgrade" [Critical,Fix released]14:04
ask-ygU5AP56ppf, it's a netplan issue; there's no glue to inform networkmanager to manage all devices14:04
ask-ygU5AP56no override in /etc/Networkmanager14:04
Bugson_dbsyd: in debian it does work without glitch14:05
Bugson_in ubuntu server no go14:05
ppfyeah that makes more sense. i was wondering why i didn't have this issue ;)14:05
qwebirc2570hello14:12
qwebirc2570anyone who can give advice about connecting thunderbird (52.8) with an gmail account (just installed ubuntu 18.04) and i cant connect them.14:14
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc2570: If you have 2 factor authentication enabled for g-mail you may need to generate an application specific password. Otherwise, the new account setup should be working for you.14:16
xav1usHow do i install openssl 1.1 dev libs on trusty tahr? Does anyone know? And how to make them took precedence compared to 1.0 libs, so that 1.1 is considered default in system?14:16
qwebirc2570pragmaticenigma: i tryed to enable the 2fa, i also allowed for less secure apps, no luck14:17
pragmaticenigmaxav1us: I don't believe openssl 1.1 is available in the package repos for Trusty, you may have to download and compile from source. Unfortunately, source compilation is outside of the scope of this channel.14:18
xav1uspragmaticenigma: I see, ty.14:19
xav1usthat's bad :(14:19
xav1usI mean, that trusty doesn't have 1.1 in any repos14:19
uebera||Hi. Which setting controls whether "update-grub" will produce linux/initrd or linuxefi/initrdefi entries? (The machine in question requires the latter.)14:20
pragmaticenigmaxav1us: the repos only contain the software that is supported for the release. That common amoung all distro's14:20
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc2570: Take a look at this article, follow the steps and see if that works for you. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/1614:20
genii!info openssl trusty-backports14:21
ubottuPackage openssl does not exist in trusty-backports14:21
geniiHm14:21
YUKONhi14:22
YUKONمرحبا14:22
pragmaticenigmaYUKON: Hello, Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?14:22
qwebirc2570pragmaticenigma: i tryed that link, thats why i turned on lesssecureapps14:22
bobthebuilder20_Hello, currently running a Ubuntu 16.04 web server with proxy setup. Getting an proxy error HTTP: Failed to make connection to backend: localhost. Any suggestion in resolving this?14:23
jellycodeSurprised to find that on a ubuntu 14.04 docker image, I can't do apt-get install subversion.  Did it maybe have a different name in the past?14:23
uebera||bobthebuilder20_: Did you verify that the backend works if you manually bypass the proxy?14:24
pragmaticenigmajellycode: You may need to contact the maintainer of the docker image. It is possible they have set it up to use custom PPAs14:24
jellycodeapt-get update fixed problem, nvm, feel silly14:24
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Guest50551KDK14:25
pragmaticenigmabobthebuilder20_: Try changing the proxy address from localhost to 127.0.0.114:25
Guest50551Hi14:26
apteryxhello, do I need to manually configure /etc/network/interfaces for DHCP when using Ubuntu Server 18.04, or is this the default behavior?14:26
TrickkyTyperGood morning everyone14:26
TrickkyTyperapteryx, for what?14:26
apteryxI'm booting two VMs from images generated in the same way, and they get the same IP address from the DHCP server...14:27
TrickkyTyperah see im not an expert with VMs.14:27
apteryxIf I manually issue "dhclient ens3", they get a proper (different) IP.14:27
pragmaticenigmaapteryx: Do the VMs have unique MAC addresses?14:27
bobthebuilder20_Pragamticenigma: Tested with changing address from proxy address from localhost to 127.0.0.1. Same result.14:27
apteryxpragmaticenigma: yes I confirm that their MACs are unique (different)14:27
apteryxThey are started using virt-install, which takes care of MAC randomization.14:28
pragmaticenigmabobthebuilder20_: I would investigate to make sure you can connect without the proxy... then make sure your proxy is actually up and running14:28
bobthebuilder20_Uebera| |: Haven't tested if backed works14:28
pragmaticenigmaapteryx: Are they started at the exact same moment?14:28
bobthebuilder20_some google forum results were mentioning httpd_can_network_connect14:29
bobthebuilder20_but those were for centos installs14:29
raubSo I have a network device which ip a identifies as enx3c18a0091ec5, which seems like enx+MAC. How do I use it?14:29
apteryxpragmaticenigma: nope, I start them sequencially, although I'd expect DHCP to be resistant to race conditions (isn't that one of strength of DHCP?)14:30
bobthebuilder20_and few ubuntu forms were saying to install policycoreutils14:30
raubI want to use it as the port dnsmasq listens on and it does not like it14:30
uebera||apteryx: By default, 18.04 uses netplan instead of ifupdown. Did you look at /etc/network/interfaces?14:30
pragmaticenigmaapteryx: Maybe try a 5 second delay?14:32
OkeeCan someone help me find Libreoffice on Pop!_OS with gnome?  Pop is Ubuntu with a label.  I have installed libreoffice-common, and libreoffice-gnome.  Both appear to be installed repositories but they are not displayingin the gnome graphical menu.  The only thing that shows up is libreoffice base (database).14:34
pragmaticenigmaOkee: POP!_OS is not supported as it is not an official Ubuntu flavor. You will need to contact System76 for support14:34
OkeeI just got this computer and after todays work deadline plan on getting rid of gnome and Ubuntu, and go back to my preferred work area in Debian stable.14:34
OkeeSystem76 channel is not active on here.  My understanding is that pop is ubuntu.14:35
geniiContact System76 support for help with Pop! OS14:35
apteryxuebera||: oh, interesting info. Indeed the default /etc/network/interfaces now refers to /etc/netplan for the current configuration.14:36
pragmaticenigmaOkee: POP!_OS has it start in Ubuntu, but it is not Ubuntu. It is not maintained by Canonical or the Ubuntu Community. We do not have the documentation or the understanding of the differences between the two OS's. You need to contact System 7614:36
apteryxuebera||: but /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml (default) seems like it should support dhcp4 on ens3, which I what I want.14:36
geniiOkee: If the #system76 channel is not useful, your next best bet is probably the main ##linux one14:38
uebera||apteryx: I was thinking that the .yaml file in question could contain an explicit MAC address ("override"). This would have explained your problem.14:38
pragmaticenigmaOkee: System 76 does not have an official IRC channel. They have a support page at https://support.system76.com/ with how to contact them14:38
pragmaticenigmaOkee: Considering System 76 offers lifetime support with the purchase of their products, it would be a good idea to contact them directly14:39
TrumapxLifetime as long as their in business. They are a fly by night outfit14:40
pragmaticenigmaTrumapx: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question? For all other topics, please visit the #ubuntu-offtopic channel14:40
apteryxuebera||: I've got a tcpdump of the DHCP protocol, it looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/1033109/14:41
BluesKajTrumapx, you're mistaken, system 76 has been around for a long time and they're doing quite well14:41
apteryxpragmaticenigma: delays won't help, I can boot the 2nd VM hours later and it'll still get the same IP :/14:41
qwebirc2570pragmaticenigma: do you have another suggestion, than the above mentioned link14:41
uebera||apteryx: Have you looked at the DHCP server? Both machines are using the same hostname, after all.14:42
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc2570: I do not, if the given suggestion is not working, then there is an issue with your Gmail setup or you are not following the directions exactly as they are presented.14:42
ardinii'm using ubuntu mate on my raspberry, but firefox browser is not working.. is always crashing down, any hints?14:42
apteryxuebera||: yes, they are. My understanding is that DHCP servers care not about hostnames but about MACs14:43
pragmaticenigmaardini: Firefox is too heavy of an application for the raspberry pi computer. You need to use a lighter weight web browser14:43
qwebirc2570pragmaticenigma: you are probably right, ill have to try agin.. thx for your suggestions.14:43
ardinieg?14:43
apteryxI will take a look at the DHCP server config nontheless14:43
uebera||apteryx: Depending on the software, you can bind addresses to hostnames.14:43
pragmaticenigmaardini: I believe Midori is based around the core of Firefox but is much easier on system resources14:43
ardinipragmaticenigma: do u know one?14:44
ardiniok great thank you14:44
ardinican i download it with sudo apt-get install midori?14:44
pragmaticenigmaardini: I do not see it14:46
geniiTrumapx: If you persist in PMing nasties to users, next time will be a ban14:46
pragmaticenigmaardini: It might be available in the Ubuntu MATE repos... I'm not seeing it in Ubuntu main repos14:48
mukhtaarhi14:48
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pragmaticenigmaapteryx: what are you using for VM manager?14:52
Stochastix_ Does mailx still have a -S switch where you can add things that would normally go in the mail.rc file?14:53
Stochastix_I see it all over in examples, but I get invalid option  'S'14:54
Stochastix_I want to be able to send an email, but not have to rely on a file like mail.rc.14:56
Stochastix_I dont see another way to set the stmp sever without the -S14:56
pragmaticenigmaStochastix_: -S is not for the SMTP server, it's for overriding "from, to, subject" headers14:57
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Stochastix_You can use it for anything that would otherwise be in the mail.rc file14:58
Stochastix_as far as things that can be "set"14:58
Stochastix_including smtp=14:58
Stochastix_but it seems to not be an option in the ubuntu mailx from bsd-mailx14:58
Stochastix_Is there another way to do this i wonder? other than adding it to mail.rc?14:59
pragmaticenigmaStochastix_: Everything that I'm seeing in the documentation is stating that if the SMTP is defined in the mail.rc file, it takes precedence14:59
Stochastix_I know, but I dont want to create the mail.rc. I want this to be somehow portable as a oneliner15:00
geniiStochastix_: With the standard bsd mailutils you can just use --set=something=value instead of -S15:00
Stochastix_ohhh,  --set  :)15:01
bacarrdy_Stochastix_: echo "email" | mailx -s "subject" -S smtp-use-starttls -S nss-config-dir=/etc/pki/nssdb/ -S ssl-verify=ignore  -S smtp=smtp://1.1.1.1:25 -S smtp-auth=login -S smtp-auth-user=Login -S smtp-auth-password=Password -S from="Who-sending <FROM>" someone@someone.com15:01
Stochastix_Ill try that15:01
bacarrdy_Stochastix_: echo "email" | mailx -s "subject" -S smtp-use-starttls -S nss-config-dir=/etc/pki/nssdb/ -S ssl-verify=ignore  -S smtp=smtp://1.1.1.1:25 -S smtp-auth=login -S smtp-auth-user=USERNAME -S smtp-auth-password=PASSWORD -S from="Who-sending <FROM>" someone@someone.com15:02
bacarrdy_you need to change only smtp server ip:port, USERNAME, PASSWORD, from section, subject and message15:03
jrmHi.  We just did a fresh install of 18.04.  An issue we encountered is that the mouse and keyboard are quite slow on the login screen.  However, once we manage to login, both are fine.  Ideas?15:03
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qwebirc24548Hey, I downloaded an Ubuntu Base (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-base/) rootfs tar.gz and extracted it to my disk, how do I install the latest kernel via apt-get?15:06
pragmaticenigmajrm: While on the login screen, the computer is still starting services and background tasks, it might be by the time you get to the desktop, post login, that everything is done. If you wait a few minutes after seeing the login screen, does it become more responsive. Also, are you using Ubuntu or one of the other flavors?15:06
pragmaticenigmajrm: Lastly, since it is a fresh install, See if after updating the system to the latest software packages helps improve15:07
qwebirc24548Like if anyone knows how to just get the latest kernel and create an initramfs that would be great. I know how to add it to grub already.15:07
jrmpragmaticenigma: No, it remains extremely laggy.  It's very difficult to log in.  This is Ubuntu downloaded from releases.ubuntu.com and we already did apt update; apt upgrade.15:08
bacarrdy_jrm: the only one way to figure out whats wrong is to check logs from power on up to you loged on. (if your screen is lagging you can try to shutdown it with ctrl+alt+f6)15:12
bacarrdy_later you will be able to turn it on with ctrl+alt+f115:12
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dbsydBugson_: installing grub-efi-amd64 fixed it for me - give it a shot15:19
jrmbacarrdy_: K.  Any suggestions for which logs to look at?  I see some interesting things in /var/log/auth.log: Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms), which a quick search tells me might be related to something bluetooth?15:21
jrmThis is a workstation, so we don't need bluetooth.15:22
jluchttp://puppylinux.com is still broken15:22
pragmaticenigmajluc: This is a support channel for Ubuntu and it's official flavors. Puppy Linux is not supported here and we have no ability to contact them15:23
qwebirc60388hello i need help i want factory reset my ubuntu to start i mean remove all application i installed and changed program same rvm and classminu15:25
oerheksqwebirc60388, there is no factory reset other than ... yes, reinstall15:25
qwebirc60388@oeheks i reinstall my ubuntu but i have my old app :(15:26
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc60388: what app are you referring to?15:27
oerheksqwebirc60388, what do you mean with "  but i have my old app  " ?15:27
qwebirc60388same i install classminu and rvm and katoolin i want delete all15:27
bacarrdy_jrm: may be your mouse and keyboard is bluetooth :) ?15:28
qwebirc60388but when i reinstall my ubuntu i don't know why i don't lose my files and application15:28
jrmbacarrdy_: No. They are usb.15:28
oerheksqwebirc60388, choose install , with complete wipe, not reinstall15:29
oerheksvoila15:29
oerheks"you will loose all your data" then do a dance, and press yes15:30
qwebirc60388oh :( i don't understand my english not perfect can you help me send some commands for reset my os for first time ?15:30
oerheksno15:30
bacarrdy_try disable it then, quick search on google tells that you can do it in file /etc/bluetooth/main.conf by changing InitiallyPowered true to false15:31
bacarrdy_jrm: try disable it then, quick search on google tells that you can do it in file /etc/bluetooth/main.conf by changing InitiallyPowered true to false15:31
qwebirc60388what is voila15:31
qwebirc60388now what i can to do ?15:31
bacarrdy_jrm: may be you have usb3 ports on your pc?15:32
bacarrdy_jrm: if you have usb2 you can try to put your mouse and keyboard to usb2 to check or there is no problems with usb315:33
rud0lfbacarrdy_: InitiallyPowered is called AutoEnable in newer versions15:33
bacarrdy_jrm: and if this will not help you need to dig more logs :) probably starting from /var/log/syslog15:34
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qwebirc60388please someone help me :(15:34
bacarrdy_rud0lf: may be :) i never edited this file15:34
lotuspsychjeqwebirc60388: crying for help isnt gonna give real help15:35
rud0lffor ubuntu 17.10 and 18.04 it's AutoEnable15:35
lotuspsychjeqwebirc60388: if nobody answers, please have a little patience and re-ask a bit later15:35
qwebirc60388good hahahaha right15:35
qwebirc60388i want delete all my data and application i want reset my ubuntu :)15:36
lotuspsychjeqwebirc60388: clean install?15:36
qwebirc60388what ?15:36
oerheksqwebirc60388, i understand you want a quick fix, there is none, just insert the ubuntu iso and reinstall15:36
hggdhqwebirc60388: there is no option to "reset to factory" for Ubuntu15:37
qwebirc60388i don't have ubuntu iso because i don't have usb and dvd15:37
hggdhqwebirc60388: the only way to do so is by a full, clean, re-install15:37
royal_screwup21I'm running a programs that's returning a deluge of errors. I want to find a specific keyword in the traceback. How do I accomplish this?15:37
qwebirc60388thanks :)15:37
lotuspsychje!grep | royal_screwup2115:38
ubotturoyal_screwup21: grep is a command-line tool that finds a string in a file or a stream. Grep can be recursive through directories and searches can be simple or complex. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grep15:38
lotuspsychjeroyal_screwup21: another usefull tool i use is colortail, to more easy find your logs in colors15:38
lotuspsychjeroyal_screwup21: if the logs are capable of syntax highlight that is15:39
bacarrdy_qwebirc60388: why you want to reset? if you have problems with GUI you can try reset configs with dconf reset -f / if you have with installed packages you can recheck what last packages was installed and try remove them: grep " install " /var/log/dpkg.log15:39
lotuspsychjeroyal_screwup21: another thing you can try, is to start the application from a terminal, sometimes it spits out usefull errors too15:40
qwebirc60388@Bacardy_ yes i installed katoolin and classminu and rvm and when i type sudo su in terminal it's give me some error such no file and i want delete all application i installed15:41
qwebirc60388but i don't know how i can delete :D15:42
royal_screwup21lotuspsychje: thanks! I guess the easiest thing to do is just: python3 foo.py | grep "keyword"15:42
bacarrdy_qwebirc60388: :) just try to remove packages or you can try reinstall sudo15:42
bacarrdy_qwebirc60388: to oremove package apt-get --purge remove PACKAGE-NAME15:42
oerhekskatoolin .. kali tools, those mess up your ubuntu, reinstall15:42
hggdhqwebirc60388: katoolin is a Kali program, not Ubuntu15:42
hggdhheh15:42
oerheksso end of support, you know what to do15:43
oerheksbuy an usb stick or burn a dvd15:43
qwebirc60388yes i know it's kali tools and thanks for your support and help <315:43
royal_screwup21lotuspsychje: actually, well, I was hoping for a utility that would display the output the way man pages are display. So then, all I'd have to do is just hit "/<keyword>" to find what I'm looking for15:44
lotuspsychje!rootirc | Guest5196215:44
ubottuGuest51962: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.15:44
qwebirc60388thanks <315:45
lotuspsychjeroyal_screwup21: can you share with us your exact end goal, perhaps others can think-along?15:45
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jrmbacarrdy_: Will do.  Although, syslog is quite noisy.  It's has around 90,000 lines from today. https://ftfl.ca/misc/uthyr_ubuntu_18.04_syslog15:50
apteryxpragmaticenigma: libvirt15:52
apteryxuebera||: OK, I'm now looking at the config of the DHCP server, it uses Dnsmasq.15:52
pragmaticenigmaapteryx: Are you using the Virtual Networks options or "shared physical device" mode?15:53
apteryxpragmaticenigma: I'm bridging to a VLAN on the host, which has the Dnsmasq DHCP server.15:54
jrmprogress.  If we log in with "Ubuntu on Wayland" then the mouse and keyboad remain unusable.  So, it seems we need to either figure out how to get gdm to use Xorg, or solved whatever Wayland issue there is.15:55
pragmaticenigmaapteryx: The host machine is connected hardwired to the network (ethernet)15:56
apteryx(using the virt-install arg:  --network bridge=VLAN220,model=virtio)15:56
apteryxpragmaticenigma: I believe so.15:56
pragmaticenigmajrm: Did you intentionally install with Wayland enabled?15:56
jrmpragmaticenigma: No, we just chose defaults.15:56
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pragmaticenigmajrm: That doesn't help, as I don't know what the default you were presented15:57
jrmpragmaticenigma: We weren't asked anything about wayland/xorg during the install.15:57
pragmaticenigmajrm: Also, wayland is not installed by default. Which is strange that you would have it as an option15:57
bittin_good man Mozilla inviting me to a meeting i am not allowed to watch :D15:58
lotuspsychje!ot | bittin_15:59
ubottubittin_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:59
bittin_lotuspsychje: sorry15:59
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pragmaticenigmajrm: You could try turning off wayland support in the /etc/gdm3/custom.conf file. Under [daemon] setting WaylandEnable=false16:01
pragmaticenigmaSeeing as trying a Wayland session makes the keyboard/mouse inoperable, perhaps some Wayland libraries are being loaded in the login greeter16:02
lotuspsychjehey ioria16:08
iorialotuspsychje, hey..16:08
lotuspsychjeioria: check invite, we need you16:09
ioriaok16:09
jrmpragmaticenigma: gdm loading something Wayland seems plausible.  I am trying your suggestion about WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf.16:10
jrmpragmaticenigma: Yup, that works.  Thank you.16:10
pragmaticenigmajrm: It was a shot in the dark, glad it helpped. I stumbled into it from an issue I was reseraching for x11vnc16:13
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jrmIt's strange that gdm would use Wayland by default, but Gnome would use X by default.  Wayland seemed like a suspicious candidate when I tested the Ubuntu on Wayland option from gdm screen, then the mouse and keyboard continued to lag in Gnome like they did in gdm.  Anyway, thank you again.16:16
pragmaticenigmajrm: I don't believe it's using Wayland, I believe it's loading wayland libraries for supporting other features of the greeter.16:17
pragmaticenigmajrm: Namely, it's probably loading the libraries in preperation for a user selecting the Ubuntu on Wayland option16:17
jrmAh, I see.  That's makes more sense.16:19
neoncontrailsIs there a graphical tool to show the current PPA repositories (ideally too their status)?16:28
lotuspsychjeneoncontrails: wich ubuntu version are you on?16:30
neoncontrailslotuspsychje: 17.10. I just switched up my search query and found what I was looking for: "Software Sources"!16:31
lotuspsychjeneoncontrails: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-list-and-remove-ppa-repository-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux16:31
pragmaticenigmaneoncontrails: If you have Synaptic package manager installed, you can also find them there.16:33
doug16kin this dmesg message, what does 4.34 mean? -> <0>[37812.737217] do_IRQ: 4.34 No irq handler for vector16:38
doug16kI get 4.34, 4.36, 1.34, 0.33, 6.34, 7.33, 5.37, etc16:40
guest_systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS16:40
doug16kthis never happened until 18.0416:40
lotuspsychjedoug16k: you have suspend problems?16:40
doug16knever suspend, it's a desktop. I keep it on 24x716:41
doug16kryzen 2700x, B350 chipset16:41
doug16kI get a flood of those "no irq for vector". after a couple of days dmesg overflows and all it has is the max number of messages about irq vector16:42
doug16kseveral messages per minute16:42
lotuspsychje!bug | doug16k if you find a bug16:43
ubottudoug16k if you find a bug: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.16:43
rosco_ycan I write a bash script that moves to another directory, and when the script exits, the calling shell is in that directory?16:43
TheTrobzhello16:43
TheTrobzsomeone there16:44
rosco_yhi TheTrobz16:44
lotuspsychje!ask | TheTrobz16:44
TheTrobzi need help16:44
ubottuTheTrobz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:44
JimBuntuTheTrobz, I don't think so, but you can ask in #bash and you might get better answers16:44
doug16krosco_y, you can source a script that changes directory. use `. somescript` (without `) to run a script in the current shell instead of spawning a separate shell16:44
lotuspsychjedoug16k: when you file the new bug, try also another kernel to test on, help yourself & the community16:45
rosco_yThanks TheTrobz -- much appreciated!16:45
doug16klotuspsychje, so, <package> would be the kernel package I am using? such as linux-image-4.15.0-26-generic ?16:47
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lotuspsychjedoug16k: yeah, but i think you can file the bug against linux-image too16:48
doug16kok thanks, I'll try that16:48
lotuspsychjedoug16k: as long as you describe the whole story in your details16:48
HaMsTeRsanyone know why my login screen stick with 640x480 resolution?  after logged in, the resolution return to normal.16:48
HaMsTeRsis there any way to fix it?16:48
guest_systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS16:49
lotuspsychjeHaMsTeRs: details matter mate, ubuntu version? graphics card? clean install?16:49
TheTrobz< HaMsTeRs> maybe reinstall to fixed16:49
HaMsTeRsno16:50
TheTrobzwhy?16:50
lotuspsychje!behelpful | TheTrobz16:50
HaMsTeRsi reinstalled 8 times.  happens everytime16:50
ubottuTheTrobz: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.16:50
TheTrobzu can search on www.google.com16:50
lotuspsychjeTheTrobz: please dont suggest google to users neither16:50
lotuspsychjeguest_: what kind of graphics card chipset?16:51
TheTrobz< lotuspsychje> no one can answer it16:51
TheTrobzthat's just a suggestion16:52
guest_lotuspsychje: intel HD 520 and amd r5 m43016:52
lotuspsychjeTheTrobz: even then, its not helpful to forward to internet... patience is golden, other volunteers can also help16:52
multifractalHow come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.16:53
lotuspsychjeguest_: wich driver is active? sudo lshw -C video and check driver= at bottom?16:53
RoBzTheTrobz: you should also change your nick kthx16:53
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ubottuguest_: Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD16:55
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guest_lotuspsychje: showing 2 drivers https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XWvcqx98dg/16:56
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lotuspsychjeguest_: ok that looks good mate, perhaps have also a look in your syslog, maybe radeon troubles?16:56
lotuspsychjeguest_: was this clean install 18.04?16:57
guest_lotuspsychje: it is possible to use intel only ? in about it show intel card16:57
guest_lotuspsychje: yes16:57
guest_lotuspsychje: i am using GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1"16:58
khei've got a usb, which i want to clone. i tried dd, dd gives no errors, but produces a 80 mb .iso. the usb contains much more data. are there some hidden partitions or something? i did dd if=abc of=abc.iso.16:59
khebasically i want a 1 to 1 copy of the usb over to my hdd.17:00
kheand then put it onto a new usb.17:01
JimBuntukhe, can you paste the output from fdisk -l /path/to/device ?17:01
JimBuntu!paste | khe17:01
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MysticReveriekhe, I used acronis on windows t ocopy my 64 gb ubuntu usb os on to a 250gb ssd17:01
MysticReverieIt worked, but for some reason the boot time wa sslow, but the system seemed to work ok17:01
MysticReverieNow I have a fresh install on SSD tho17:02
pjsHey all. I have a brand new laptop, Lenovo (thinkpad) X1 Carbon 6th gen, fresh install of Ubuntu, installed fine, but upon boot it gives me a grub shell. I have to manually set the prefix, root, insmod linux & normal, then issue 'normal' command to get the grub loader. I've tried boot-repair, grub-update, install-grub, I've wiped the partitions, reinstalled 3x, same thing. Can anyone help?17:03
pjsHere is my debug info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3fHXHYzpQP/17:03
pjsnote, this is NOT dual boot situation.17:03
pjsJust Ubuntu installed17:04
kheJimBuntu: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q5zYFgXrpw/17:05
kheJimBuntu: it contains a lot more data, 4-5 gbs, but i am unable to see it.17:06
HaMsTeRsPlease anyone17:06
HaMsTeRsthe login thing is quite annoying17:06
JimBuntupjs /dev/sr0 ? Are you certain that's the USB drive?17:07
pjsJimBuntu: Hrm, not sure what you mean. I haven't personally (manually) done anything with /dev/sr017:08
JimBuntupjs, check lsblk or 'sudo fdisk -l' to see if you have another device that might be the USB drive17:09
pjsJimBuntu: I think you mean to reference khe, not me :)17:10
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ask-ygU5AP56so here's another issue; application like nicotine, a python app, I fail to see it in the Unity menu17:10
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RandolfHow can I rename a USB memory stick?17:13
ask-ygU5AP56neoncontrails, unless you got the new version w/ gnome, but it's somewhere there I reckon.17:13
RandolfI want to change its lable.17:13
Randolflabel.17:13
tonyyarussoTheTrobz: This is a support channel only - I'm not sure what you're doing, but it's not support.17:13
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RandolfWhen I try to rename it, I get the message that it can't be renamed.17:14
RandolfWhat I mean is that the "Rename" option is greyed out when I right-click on it in the file manager.17:14
guest_systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS17:14
kheJimBuntu: yeah, there is. sdb. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/47vPthSNSp/17:15
kheJimBuntu: ill provide a screenshot in a moment. thanks for the help.17:15
RandolfIf I cd to /media/randolf/ and try to use mv to rename my USB memory stick, I get the message "Permission denied."  If I use sudo, it tells me that the device is busy.17:17
RandolfI don't have any programs accessing it though.17:17
ask-ygU5AP56so, any idea how to get my nicotine icon and app visible both in Unity menu and in the tray?17:18
JimBuntuRandolf, that's not how you would change the label though... that would only be moving the mount point...17:18
TBotNikAll: What is cmd to mount remote ntfs shares from a win server?17:18
leftyfbTBotNik: NTFS is not a remote filesystem17:19
JimBuntuRandolf, you will need to unmount the drive, then you should be able to use 'man mlabel' to get more instruction on using mlabel to give the device a new label17:19
kheJimBuntu: https://imgur.com/a/3kO7kHA - both of these come after usb has been inserted17:19
leftyfbTBotNik: If you're thinking of Samba/SMB/CIFS, then you can use the mount command17:19
RandolfJimBuntu:  Oh, okay.  Thanks!  I'll give that a try.17:20
JimBuntuAh, khe, it's one of those flash drives with a virtual CD-ROM partition. I'm not sure what the solution is for that ATM, sorry.17:20
TBotNikleftyfb: Yup mount cifs something, but can't get it right no matter what i try!17:20
leftyfbTBotNik: what are you trying?17:20
JimBuntukhe what you know now should help draw out someone with the correct experience17:20
RandolfJimBuntu:  Hmm, that looks like an MS-DOS volume labeling tool.  I don't seem to be able to specify a device with it.17:22
kheJimBuntu: thanks for the help appreciate it!17:22
TBotNikleftyfb: Try many combos: started with: mount //server  /media/winsvr  cifs username=$msuser,password=$mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  017:22
BrysonI’m having problems getting a second AWS elastic network interface added to an ubuntu 16.04 box. i have the interface attached, it has an IP, but i can not get routing configured to allow any network traffic over the second interface. the second interface has a different gateway than the first, all the help i can find online seems to assume that the gateways are the same for both interfaces.17:22
leftyfbTBotNik: Tried using the servers ip address as opposed to name?17:22
TBotNikleftyfb: Not yet!17:23
TBotNikleftyfb: that won't be good as it dhcp network, so will change ips17:23
JimBuntuRandolf, Oh, are you trying to rename the device as a whole... not a partition?17:24
leftyfbTBotNik: it's called troubleshooting17:24
RandolfYeah.17:24
RandolfIt has a "volume label" I guess.17:24
khei got a usb with a virtual CD-ROM partition which i want to clone. dd doesn't work. anyone know what to do?17:24
RandolfIn Windows, this USB memory stick shows up with the label.  In Linux, it shows up with the same label.  I'm just firing up a Windows machine to re-label it.17:24
TBotNikleftyfb: Been working on it a month!  Computer shop here.  Everything else logins fine.17:24
TBotNikleftyfb: Ticketing DB on that share!17:25
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leftyfbTBotNik: ok, have you tried to use the ip address yet?17:25
TBotNikleftyfb: Don't know it!17:25
RandolfDamn, I forgot how painful it is to wait for Windows 10 to boot.17:25
RandolfIt's installed 15 updates now, and it's only at 3%.17:26
TBotNikRandolf: Less than 10 sec with SSD!17:26
leftyfbTBotNik: you don't know how to get an ip address from a windows machine?17:27
TBotNikRandolf: Next time download the KBs in the background, then run them local, 10 times faster!17:27
leftyfbTBotNik: please take Windows discussions to ##windows17:27
takemehow can i install nmap?17:28
RandolfTBotNik:  I've actually completely given up on Microsoft.  They fucked me over way too many times and I'm moving everything to Ubuntu.17:28
leftyfbtakeme: just like every other application in ubuntu17:28
takemehow? leftyfb  ?17:28
RandolfI'm just sick and tired of it updating constantly in the middle of working, and screwing itself up beyond repair, and taking forever and a day to do basic things like booting or loading programs.17:28
TBotNikleftyfb: Hang on checking the IP now!17:28
RandolfLinux saves so much time.17:28
JimBuntutakeme, probably along the lines of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nmap17:28
RandolfIt just does everything immediately, without delays.17:29
leftyfbtakeme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware   first result on google17:29
takemethanks :) JimBuntu17:29
leftyfbRandolf: please take Windows discussions to ##windows17:29
takemeleftyfb: no thanks17:29
leftyfbtakeme: no thanks?17:29
Randolfleftyfb:  I agree.  I was just responding to TBotNik's suggestion.17:29
leftyfbtakeme: no thanks you don't want to read documentation on how to use the OS you just installed?17:29
takeme[02:28am] JimBuntu: takeme, probably along the lines of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nmap17:30
RomanticI'm curious as to what could be interfering with 'less' ability to launch the right editor when I go into edit mode: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BcPfwBJD6X/17:30
takemehow can i install ifconfig?17:31
leftyfbtakeme: what version of ubuntu are you running?17:31
takemenewest17:31
leftyfbtakeme: what version?17:31
takemei don’t know how i know verson?17:31
confluencyIsn't ifconfig installed by default?17:32
leftyfbtakeme: cat /etc/issue17:32
TBotNikleftyfb: All I ever get is the "help" dump from "mam"17:32
takemeUbuntu 18.04 LTS \n \l17:32
confluencyHuh. Apparently it's in the net-tools package.17:32
guest_takeme: apt install ifconfig17:32
confluencyguest_: that's not the name of the package.17:33
takemeguest_: how about sudo apt install net-tools ?17:33
leftyfbtakeme: what exactly are you trying to accomplish with nmap and ifconfig on ubuntu 18.04 where you don't know simple commands like apt-get?17:33
confluencyBut apparently there's a newer tool which is recommended: https://www.linux.com/learn/replacing-ifconfig-ip17:33
guest_sorry , i was wrong it is net-tools17:34
guest_systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS17:35
TBotNikRandolf: Win scripts will let you check updates as background process, download as background process and update as background process.  Sorry not my forte` but I have a friend that does it all!17:35
uebera||Which setting controls whether "update-grub" will produce linux/initrd or linuxefi/initrdefi entries? (The machine in question requires the latter.)17:35
takemeleftyfb: :(17:35
TBotNikleftyfb: All I ever get is the "help" dump from "man".  That includes calling the IP!17:36
TBotNikleftyfb: Samba mounts were easier, but don't even understand the cifs syntax and cmd set!17:37
leftyfbTBotNik: samba mounts = cifs mounts17:39
leftyfbtakeme: you haven't answered17:40
takemewhat answer?17:40
leftyfbtakeme: what exactly are you trying to accomplish with nmap and ifconfig on ubuntu 18.04 where you don't know simple commands like apt-get?17:40
takemeyes i don’t know command well17:41
takeme:(17:41
leftyfbtakeme: so what do you plan on doing with nmap and why do you think you need ifconfig?17:41
uebera||Romantic: What does "echo $LESSEDIT" show you? "nano", by chance?17:41
anddamhello, in a custom list file for google music manager I see   ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ### # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.17:42
anddambut who's automatically configuring that file?17:42
edenHey, I have a laptop with windows on one drive, I'm going to install ubuntu on a secondary SSD slot, I was wondering can I partition that drive and leave a large partition that can both have windows installed programs and shared files Ubuntu/Windows. I think this would be ntsf...17:42
takemeleftyfb: i m busy17:43
takeme:(17:43
leftyfbuh huh17:43
takemewhy you want to know it17:43
takemeit is my business17:43
anddameden: yes you can17:44
takemenot related with you17:44
guest_systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS17:44
edenanddam nice! I was thinking I needed to upgrade my pcie nvme and my ssd but I think one large ssd will handle windows overflow and ubuntu, sweetness!17:44
leftyfbtakeme: because there might be a better way to accomplish your goal.17:45
edenwould I be best off to manually partition that on install, or can I get away with letting Ubuntu use the whole disk, then partitioning off the ntsf portion afterwards?17:46
takemeheh17:46
takemeyeah i want to hack you leftyfb ok?17:46
takemewith nmap17:46
leftyfbtakeme: that's what I thought. Trolling is offtopic here.17:46
uebera||Romantic: I'm able to reproduce the behaviour w/ bash. If you use "export EDITOR=vim", your problem should be gone.17:46
takeme:(17:46
anddameden: I'm not familiar with current installer auto setup, I'd go manually and then install bootloader afterwards. But that's just me17:47
leftyfbtakeme: feel free to troll in #freenode or #ubuntu-ops17:47
anddamuebera||: the problem being?17:48
uebera||anddam: Referring to my grub related question?17:48
anddamuebera||: maybe, I couldn't see it since I joined after17:49
edenanddam, nice, I'm not dual booting, windows is too problematic for that, I do dedicated hard drive for ubuntu and just choose drive order in my bios. I think if I auto install I would need to shrink partition vs manually install I can leave an unpartitioned, or maybe even ntsf drive at that point.17:49
anddameden: I count that as dual booting, you have two OS instances on your system17:50
takemereal troll is you. leftyfb17:50
takeme8)17:50
uebera||anddam: Oh, I see. "update-grub" places linux/initrd statements where I need linuxefi/initrdefi. The machine booted in EFI mode, so I wonder where I need to change a setting so that working entries are not "mangled"17:50
edenanddam good point, looks like its a go, time to pop open this new lenovo Y530 and see how it does with Ubuntu :') thanks for confirmation.17:50
anddamuebera||: those linux/initrd are in resulting grub.cfg, right?17:51
uebera||anddam: yes.17:51
anddamuebera||: I don't have linuxefi/initrdefi17:51
uebera||anddam: Then you did not boot in EFI mode. (If you have the choice, that does not matter. But the machine in question only supports EFI.) ;)17:53
anddamuebera||: I most surely do17:53
anddamI only have UEFI support and no legacy17:53
uebera||anddam: Oh. Interesting. It definitely does not work on my machine not to use linuxefi/initrdefi.17:54
doug16kis it feasible to switch an install from BIOS boot to EFI in place, without reinstalling? should it just work if I disable the CSM, or does grub have to be set up completely differently?17:54
doug16kit would have to have a FAT EFI boot partition, right? would that already exist in a normal install?17:55
anddamdoug16k: define "normal"17:55
anddamyou need a partition marked as ESP, that is (quasi)FAT17:56
anddamas fs17:56
doug16knormal as in you installed it with CSM (doing BIOS boot) and you've been using CSM for a while17:56
anddamI don't know what CSM is17:56
doug16kCSM = Compatibility Support Module - it's an addon to EFI that implements PC BIOS17:56
doug16kto boot non-EFI OS17:56
anddamIIRC the installer didn't create ESP on "legacy mode"17:56
anddambut you can simply list the partitions and see17:57
anddamsfdisk --list  or the like17:57
doug16kanddam, thanks, I have this on my boot drive -> /dev/nvme0n1p1 *       2048    1050623    1048576   512M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)17:59
anddamthen you're all set17:59
doug16ktheoretically it should boot in EFI then, right?17:59
anddamwell no, yuo only have a partition in place, how it boots depends on your firmware settings17:59
doug16kyes18:00
anddambut you can likely install grub-efi or so and generate a configuration. When I need reference for these things I hit Arch's wiki, that's really clear and detailed18:00
anddambest reference out there18:00
uebera||doug16k: To check you _current_ boot mode, test whether /sys/firmware/efi exists.18:01
qwebirc44591need help to switch to GUI version from GRUB18:02
doug16kdoesn't exist. it's definitely using BIOS boot18:02
qwebirc44591hi All after installing Ubuntu dekstop18:02
doug16kwhen I turn off CSM it doesn't boot. probably because I don't have grub-efi installed18:02
doug16kthanks all18:04
doug16kgoing to try it now :)18:04
pjsHey all.. I'm having some grub issues myself (boots to grub shell). Details & debug info: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396050&p=1378270618:05
qwebirc44591hi can anybody help a newbie here18:06
qwebirc44591I just installed 18.04 on my Dell laptop via USB18:06
rosco_yhi qwebirc44591, I'm a noobie too :)18:06
rosco_yok18:06
qwebirc44591and instead of GUI landed with terror of GRUB18:06
qwebirc44591unsure of what to do18:06
rosco_ya grub menu?18:06
qwebirc44591or how to reach back to GUI interface18:06
rosco_ywhat do you mean "terror of grub?"18:07
rosco_ywhat does it look like?18:07
pjsthis seems to be a theme.. many people are having this out of nowhere (myself included)18:07
qwebirc44591I mean unsure of how or what to do with GRUB console18:07
qwebirc44591terminal sort of console18:07
qwebirc44591earlier day DOS prompt18:08
rosco_yIf we're talking about the grub menu, then you might use the up/down arrows to select "ubuntu" and press enter.18:08
rosco_yyou  can tell grub to automatically select a preferred menu item and launch it in "n" seconds, if you wish.18:08
rosco_yoh, you have prompt--sorry that's a little different18:09
erle-how can I regenerate all the stuff that is generated after kernel install? I mean like GRUB stuff in /boot18:09
pjsqwebirc44591: this should help: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/329926/grub-starts-in-command-line-after-reboot/330852#33085218:09
doug16kworked! all I had to do was install grub-efi, turn off CSM in BIOS, and reselect boot drive. now boots in EFI mode. thanks again18:10
erle-i restored my root partition (btrfs) to a previous state but my /boot does not really fit18:10
rosco_yI'm here to ask how I can pin a launcher onto my taskbar (to use the windows language to describe it.)18:10
rosco_yI installed "Eclipse" from a downloaded .tar file, and it doesn't show up in my menu system.18:11
Shiva187Hello guys, I am having an issue with my headset on Ubunut 18.04. My speakers are working perfectly fine and system recognizes my headset (logitech usb headset) but I can't seem to get any sound to happen from the headsets, and on Skype the headset doesn't even appear as an option. Please any help would be appreciated18:13
uebera||pjs: I take it the commands you t of your grub.cfg? But it is not parsed by default? Did you use "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi [...]"?18:13
Shiva187VERIFY REGISTER Shiva187 uvxvxgmkclyb18:14
Shiva187oops18:14
uebera||pjs: I take it the commands you mentioned are part of your grub.cfg? But it is not parsed by default? Did you use "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi [...]"?18:14
pjsuebera||: I don't believe they're part of it. I found those steps on the web and it boots the loader, which boots the install.18:14
pjsNo I didn't do that. I will try it18:14
BluesKajShiva187, open alsamixer and make sure the headphone volume is at least 80%18:17
khei got a usb with a virtual CD-ROM partition which i want to clone. dd doesn't work. anyone know what to do?18:19
Shiva187@BluesKaj nope, I put the volume at 100% tested the speakers and can't hear anything on the headset also on the "input" side I see the headset but everything is grey can't measure input level or anything18:19
Shiva187Also skype does not find them, it only finds my speakers/monitor speakers BluesKaj18:21
BluesKajShiva187, did you open alsamixer in the console or are you talking  about sound settings with pavuctrl?18:21
Shiva187BluesKaj: No i did it on the pavuctrl. Now, i opened in alsamixer and boosted headset to 88. Still can't hear anything from headset18:24
FRWBhey guys i'm at a kernal panic screen on my laptop but can't seem to enter virtual console18:25
voziv__Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm trying to disable/change the lock screen shortcut (CTRL+ALT+L) - I've changed it under System Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts to be CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+BACKSPACE which works, but CTRL+ALT+L still locks my screen if I press it. Ideas?18:25
FRWBisn't it ctrl + alt + f3? or any f?18:26
BluesKajShiva187, check if there's MM in 'phones vol ctl box, should be 0018:26
FRWBthe cursor is blinking under the panic error but otherwise it's unresponsive18:26
Shiva187BluesKaj: it says MM18:27
Shiva187BluesKaj: hmm tried connecting to another USB port now it won't recognize the device going to logout/log back18:28
pakcjohello everyone, I'm relative new to ubuntu and just found that atop is listed on the ps output, writting to /var/log/atop/ why is that?18:30
Shiva187BluesKaj: nope headset is no longer shown as a device :(18:30
BluesKajShiva187, the MM means Muted , you should navigate to that conrol in alsamixer and use the M key to unmute it18:32
Shiva187BluesKaj: ok, alsamixer shows headset but no where else18:32
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Shiva187BluesKaj: that works!! it now shows up on skype too thank you so much!!18:33
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takeme.18:35
deuAgentErp20:34 deuAgentErp: Hi i get a strange behavior of pam_groups if a user logon is done via Lightdm the groups were not assigned but if I login via console the user get the groups18:35
deuAgentErpauthentication is done via ldap18:36
BluesKajShiva187, glad to help :-)18:37
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petrohello... I am not sure if this is the appropriate channel but I was wondering how ubuntu 17.10 and 18.04 (more important?) work with Apple iPphones?19:05
oerhekspetro,  i think so, there is libimobiledevice https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/libimobiledevice19:08
ask-ygU5AP56hey, how to make it possible to mount a drive with another non administrator user ? on 18.0419:09
ask-ygU5AP56what group to add him/her to19:09
ask-ygU5AP56in order to just give possibility to mount volumes19:09
ask-ygU5AP56now it asks for the power user's password19:09
ask-ygU5AP56and mounts the data under the power user's perms19:09
ask-ygU5AP56is it plugdev?19:10
jeremiesWindows has erased my partitions from the disk drive where it was installed. Has anyone had the same issue? https://betanews.com/2016/08/03/windows-10-anniversary-update-delete-linux-partition/ How to block windows from doing these bad things?19:11
ask-ygU5AP56I think it is... brb ;)19:11
apteryxjeremies: use windows in a virtual machine19:12
oerheksjeremies, really, that post is from 2 years ago19:12
oerheksalready fixed, nice trolling :-D19:12
ask-ygU5AP56nah, just adding to plugdev is not enough; the user need to be in sudo too I think;19:13
jeremiesoerheks: I remember that the partition deletion happened on October 201719:14
oerheksi think one year before that, and was fixed within a month19:15
ducasseask-ygU5AP56: use the 'user' option in fstab19:15
jeremiesAre you sure that is safe to install Windows dual Boot with Linux ?19:16
petrooerheks, do you know of anyone who uses ubuntu 18.04 with an iphone?19:17
petroor have witnessed discussions here regarding it?19:17
ducasseask-ygU5AP56: see the "Non-superuser mounts" section of 'mount' man page19:18
petroI don't have one but I hope to buy a new phone - not sure if I'm going with Android again but probably...just curious about the experience when using iphones19:18
jeremiesoerheks: Are you sure that is safe to install Windows dual Boot with Linux ?19:18
oerhekspetro, maybe someone here in this channel?19:18
petrojeremies, why wouldn't it be safe?  just use caution and plan your install19:19
petroI've used dual-boot for a long time and it's pretty common now, probably?19:19
oerheksjeremies, tons of people do so, so yes, it works. ( good thing windows does not support read/write ext4 OOTB )19:19
petroit's probably safer if done on two separate drives, though, but I haven't done it that way before19:19
jeremiespetro, something similar to this happened to me on October 2017 https://betanews.com/2016/08/03/windows-10-anniversary-update-delete-linux-partition/19:20
petrooerheks, I thought there were some hacks you could do for support? :)  Although, I probably wouldn't rely on it :)19:20
confluencyjeremies: nobody here can give you a 100% guarantee that it's "safe". Lots of people do it, and they seldom use data (as far as I know).19:20
confluency*seldom lose data19:20
petrojeremies, yeah, be careful what you click.... choose to manually install and manually manage partitions...it must offer that option?19:21
petrobut, like I said, it's safer to install these operating systems on two separate drives.... then you don't have to worry about that stuff19:21
jeremiesconfluency, ok thanks to all of you for the help and support.19:22
dunnousernamefnHello. I have this problem where when I run qemu-system-or1k (openrisc), I get an undefined symbol (libusb_free_ss_endpoint_companion_descriptor). libusb-1.0-0(-dev) is installed, and ldd resolves to the right library address19:22
pjscan someone tell me why "apt-get install -y < mylist.txt" simply says 0 to install, etc. It's a list of packages from a previous install that I want reinstalled19:23
dunnousernamefnlibrary location*19:23
pjsI generated it from dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall19:23
petrojeremies, just google windows 10 ubuntu dual-boot and choose the latest pages, the more up to date write-ups19:23
petrois my advice19:23
petroI wouldn't put it past MS to try and 'manage' partitions but I would be surprised if there's no option to avoid that process19:24
oerhekspjs, now you must use dpkg --set-selections  >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-and-dependencies-from-dpkg-set-selections19:24
oerheksget and set19:24
pjsoerheks: done that, no errors, but the packages aren't there19:26
TheSovsnaps are f***ing stupid19:26
pjsI just did it again.. same thing19:26
leftyfbTheSov: please don't19:26
ikoniatone down the language please TheSov19:27
oerhekspjs, did you fully opgrade before restoring? sudo apt full-upgrade19:27
pjsjesus, no.. let me try that19:27
TheSovi didnt even use the word19:27
leftyfbTheSov: any particular reason you have that opinion?19:27
ikoniaTheSov: it's pretty clear what you meant, so tone it down19:27
leftyfbpetro: what exactly do you want to do with the iphone and your computer?19:27
pjsoerheks: done, just says 0 upgraded, installed, remote and not upgrades19:27
TheSovso my snap applications like calculator and discord for whatever reason, if i open them and close them a few times, sometimes they just stop working19:28
TheSovand i have to dismount the loop19:28
TheSovin order to get to work again19:28
oerhekspjs, are thos packages from a 3rd source? ppa?19:28
pjsoerheks: No19:28
pjsthings like feh, python2.7, ffmpeg, etc. Just a bunch of utils I had19:28
leftyfbTheSov: sounds like you need to fill out a bug report19:28
oerhekspjs, if you updates, have no other sources, then i have no clue what is wrong.19:29
pjsoerheks: fuck.. super frustrating. Thanks though19:30
leftyfb!ohmy | pjs19:30
ubottupjs: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList19:30
* pjs mea culpa's19:32
pjsoerheks: just wrote a shell script to install them one by one *shrugs*19:33
nickInItalyHi, everyone, can anyone tell me which is the right channel for help with grub configuration?19:34
Jonta!grub19:35
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:35
JontanickInItaly: Looks like you're in the right place. :)19:35
nickInItalycool, thanks! Yep, I know what grub is. I can get the system to start (after a failed install) using the guide on Grub2/Troubleshooting but I can't get to stick. When I try the Post Boot Follow Up or the Boot Repair utility when I reboot I just go back to the GRUB2 starting screeen, the menu doesn't come up.19:38
texlaUbuntu 16.04 >unity>lsblk shows sro with the following minutes>sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom19:39
texla>why?19:39
oerhekssr0 is your cd/dvd player, MAJ:MIN is device nummer, and 0 looks like no cd inserted19:42
oerheksoh no, 0 = read only19:43
oerheksthat 1024 is 1 mb, your cache in the cd-controller19:43
nickInItaly...so the pastebin for the grub configuration is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QBqxRKNCPQ/19:44
nickInItaly...so the pastebin for the grub configuration is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QBqxRkNCPQ/19:44
oerheksnickInItaly, i see 2 efi partitions, that is 1 too much19:45
nickInItalyoerheks: yes, one was installed by windows, the second was where Ubuntu installed to. Should I delete the windows one?19:47
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oerheksnickInItaly, no, as the EFI partition needs to be at the beginning, use the one that windows created, as the manual says19:48
JFox762hi19:48
oerheksyour report says it used sda5, and should be sda219:49
JFox762exit19:49
laurenhow would you find out what /dev partition was created from a parted command?19:50
qwebirc11929oh i lose my wifi :( wifi adapter not found and i don't have cable i reset my ubuntu and getting this problem -_- how i can solve fix ?19:50
laurenor alternately, how do you map from items in a `parted print` listing to /dev paths19:51
nickInItalyoerheks, ok. I understand my mistake. I was following this guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032905/ubi-partman-failed-with-exit-code-10-ubuntu-18-0419:51
qwebirc11929i have problem wifi adapter not found and i don't have cable how i can fix ?19:53
JFox762My Bluetooth mouse keeps disconnecting from my PC...19:54
qwebirc11929hey!!!!!!!!!! i need help19:55
JFox762everytime I close the lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.19:55
ddoobbCan you switch to having a separate /boot on an installation that currently doesn't have one? Does it have advantages? Will it break dual boot with Windows? What is the recommended size for the /boot partition?19:55
JFox762Anyone have any idea of how my etc/bluetooth/main.conf file should be edited?19:55
multifractalHow come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.19:56
JFox762multifractal19:56
JFox762You probably have "Internet killswitch" turned on in your NordVPN app19:56
multifractalJFox762: It's configured through network-manager. This is 16.0419:56
JFox762although... there is no NordVPN app for linux...19:56
JFox762Network-manager?19:58
JFox762I'm using 18.0419:58
nickInItalyoerheks: would you recommend that I reboot to USBstick, delete the sda5 and reinstall grub?20:00
JFox762Also, the buetooth network manager doesn't really give you many options beyond forgetting devices, and repairing tem etc20:01
ddoobbCan you replace the /home on a fresh install immediately with the one on your previous installation?20:02
Tin__manwhat do you mean replace? you can copy all your home files that reside inside the individual directories20:05
petroleftyfb, well, one must is being able to view and access pictures on the phone20:05
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ddoobbTin_man : I have the old partition backed up so I can only do a replace using my backup software20:12
Tin_manthat all depends of course on the software, I'm not sure how Ubuntu handles that at the system level.20:14
Tin_manddoobb, this might help >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving20:16
idjithello. ubuntu 14.04 server (with X packages installed including openbox & lightdm) is giving me intermittent problems. the trouble started after switching from notify-osd to dunst and installing several software updates.20:18
idjitsometimes when i restart lightdm the monitor just shows a black screen. i can VNC in from another computer, and everything looks fine, but the monitor doesn't show the desktop. the user gets switched from DISPLAY=:0 to DISPLAY=:1, and the monitor doesn't seem to get the memo.20:18
leftyfbpetro: that's what icloud, dropbox, google photos is for20:18
idjitany idea what might be happening here?20:18
idjit(if i restart lightdm again, everything comes back up normally (with DISPLAY=:0))20:18
tomreynidjit: no idea there. but since 14.04 is only supported until spring, you might want to consider an upgrade, too.20:23
idjityeah, running a do-release-upgrade now, thanks :-)20:24
tomreyn16.04 LTS has been around cine spring 2016, 18.04 LTS will be enabled for LTS upgrades soon, probably early next month.20:24
tomreyncine -> since20:24
idjitwhat causes a DISPLAY to increment from :0 to :1? i tried restarting with `service lightdm stop; sleep 2; service lightdm start`, and it still happens from time to time.20:27
Peetz0rwhy not 'systemctl restart lightdm'20:28
Peetz0ror 'service lightdm restart'20:28
idjitbecause this one is still on 14.04 and i don't have systemctl (running an upgrade now.)20:28
Peetz0rah, yeah20:28
Peetz0rwell, try again after the upgrade ;)20:28
idjitand i was using restart (instead of stop; sleep; start) but that's when the problem was discovered. i figured slwoing things down might help keep user's DISPLAY=:0, but no such luck.20:28
DanodedHey guys, is it possible to fix a broken mbr using an ubuntu install?20:32
DanodedWhen trying to boot into windows 720:33
EriC^^Danoded: dont you have ubuntu installed?20:34
EriC^^(dual boot)20:34
DanodedEriC^^: see that's the big issue...20:34
DanodedI tried to install another linux distro before20:34
DanodedDidn't work, didn't restore the proper MBR20:34
DanodedSo I had my boot menu as: <Windows 7, Windows 7 2, Linux>20:35
DanodedNo issues on my old PC, but just upgraded to a new one with a new mobo20:35
DanodedGetting the grub rescue issue20:35
EriC^^Danoded: do you have a live usb you can use right now to troubleshoot?20:35
DanodedEriC^^: Yep got ubuntu on 'try' mode right now20:36
EriC^^Danoded: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here20:36
oerheksuse your windows 7 dvd ..20:36
Danodedoerheks: I have tried to boot into a windows image from usb20:37
Danodedget the grub issue again20:37
apteryxuebera||: ah, it seems Dnsmasq gives the same IP to machine sharing the same CLIENTID. I confirmed the client IDs are the same. A similar issue to mine is reported here: https://github.com/archlinux/arch-boxes/issues/2520:37
DanodedEriC^^: will do20:37
EriC^^Danoded: how did you make the windows usb?20:37
apteryxThe fix would be to remove this ID in the VM image by issuing 'rm /etc/machine-id'20:38
DanodedEric^^: Just made it bootable with windows installation files20:38
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EriC^^Danoded: you mean you just copied the files over to the usb's partition?20:38
DanodedEriC^^: Not... necessarily20:39
EriC^^Danoded: do explain :)20:39
DanodedI do have a windows CD I can try instead don't worry20:39
DanodedWant to try your command first20:39
EriC^^Danoded: k20:39
juacom99Hi, one question. I'm trying to make a static route persistent, i edit my /etc/network/interfaces to add the line post-up route add -host <<my host here>> gw <<The gateway here>> dev <<my dev name here>>, but when i reboot i loos all the reouts. any idea why?. i'm on a Ubuntu 14.0420:40
tomreynjuacom99: do you have "net-tools" instealled?20:42
DanodedEriC^^: Unrecognsied disk label errors20:42
Danodedwill post more20:42
EriC^^Danoded: any link?20:42
tomreynjuacom99: it's the package which provides the /sbin/route command. on current ubuntu releases, you would rather use the "ip route" command.20:43
juacom99tomreyn: no, sorry20:43
Danodedthis one? http://termbin.com/evrb20:43
Danodedyeah, that one20:44
juacom99tomreyn: the problem is that if i run the comand on a cmd it work20:44
Stochastix_bacarrdy_, Thanks for the command suggestions, I tried  -S and i keep getting invalid option -S20:44
juacom99but when i reboot i lost the changes20:44
tomreynjuacom99: can you run: "which route"20:44
Stochastix_Is there a particular mailx application that I should be running?20:44
EriC^^Danoded: what's on the 500gb and 1000gb hdd?20:44
juacom99yes sure /sbin/route20:44
Stochastix_Like what package does it come with to have the -S  switch ?20:44
tomreynjuacom99: now: dpkg -S /sbin/route20:45
DanodedEriC^^: Windows 7 installations20:45
EriC^^Danoded: on both?20:45
DanodedEriC^^: Oh yes yeah20:45
juacom99ok it seems that i got the package after all net-tools: /sbin/route20:46
tomreynjuacom99: i would think so, too.20:46
tomreynjuacom99: to confirm: dpkg -l net-tools20:46
tomreynjuacom99: i suggest you inspect your system logs then (/var/log/syslog primarily) then to get a better idea of why setting the rout via the "post-up" hook fails.20:48
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EriC^^Danoded: the 500gb one is missing the smaller partition, i'm not sure if that's needed for booting or not20:48
tomreynjuacom99: maybe make that "post-up /sbin/route ..." in /etc/network/interfaces20:49
DanodedEriC^^: WD5?20:49
EriC^^Danoded: yeah20:49
DanodedYeah it is, I'm not sure either though20:49
DanodedI'm unsure of how to go about fixing it20:49
tomreynjuacom99: since 14.04 is only supported until spring, you might want to consider an upgrade, too. 16.04 LTS has been around since spring 2016, 18.04 LTS will be enabled for LTS upgrades soon, probably early next month.20:49
EriC^^Danoded: try using the windows cd20:50
DanodedI''l try now yeah EriC^^20:50
Danodedthanks for the help also20:50
EriC^^Danoded: remove the swap partition there so if you need to make a small partition you can use that space20:50
EriC^^Danoded: try joining ##windows they can probably tell you exactly what you need to do20:51
DanodedI'm on both right now, was going to try using the windows cd if it didn't succeed.20:51
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DanodedBy the way, what command/s allows one to delete a partition in terminal?20:52
EriC^^Danoded: "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb"20:52
juacom99tomreyn: ii  net-tools                                             1.60-25ubuntu2.1                amd64                           The NET-3 networking toolkit20:52
Stochastix_Is there something that changed in mailx that makes -S variable[=value]  not work anymore?20:52
DanodedThank you again20:52
EriC^^Danoded: delete then "write" the new partition table20:52
EriC^^*delete the partitions20:53
EriC^^Danoded: no problem20:53
nickInItalythis is the new boot-repair log, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JXHmnW2MGQ/ if I give configfile (hd0,gpt2)/efi/grub/grub.cfg it starts the menu correctly, but if I look at the settings I see EFI in capitals.20:53
nickInItalywhich seem tp be pointing to the right place. is it a case sensitivity issue?20:53
juacom99tomreyn: this machin is froma  ova, i don't know if i'll be able to update20:53
nickInItaly(settings = set)20:53
tomreynjuacom99: what's ova?20:54
EriC^^nickInItaly: no20:55
EriC^^nickInItaly: have you booted into ubuntu right now?20:55
tomreynjuacom99: this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Virtualization_Format20:55
nickInItalyEric: Yeah, I'm in now20:55
EriC^^nickInItaly: what does "ls /sys/firmware/efi" give?20:56
juacom99yes that20:56
EriC^^nickInItaly: does it list files or no dir found?20:56
nickInItalyconfig_table  fw_platform_size  runtime      systab20:56
nickInItalyefivars       fw_vendor         runtime-map  vars20:56
nickInItalyno, it lists stuff.20:57
EriC^^nickInItaly: ok, type "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" and pastebin the link20:57
EriC^^nickInItaly: also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"20:57
nickInItalyhttp://termbin.com/db4ue20:58
tomreynjuacom99: well, talk to who developed / supports it.20:58
nickInItalysudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999920:58
nickInItalyhttp://termbin.com/mx2i20:58
tomreynjuacom99: you should also turn to them for support, appliances are meant to be vendor managed and supported.20:59
EriC^^nickInItaly: try "sudo rsync /boot/efi/efi/grub/ /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"   (the trailing / after grub is important)20:59
nickInItalyskipping directory .21:00
EriC^^nickInItaly: what are the files from "sudo ls /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu" now?21:01
EriC^^any grub/shim.efi's?21:01
nickInItalyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q9WSmx2tqw/21:02
EriC^^nickInItaly: hmm, try "sudo -i" then type "cp /boot/efi/efi/grub/* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"21:03
EriC^^nickInItaly: which ubuntu version are you using?21:04
nickInItaly18.04, downloaded yesterday21:04
EriC^^aha i see21:05
nickInItalyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sNRjd7zvy8/21:05
nickInItalywas that a bad plan?21:05
nickInItaly;)21:05
EriC^^nickInItaly: ok, try rebooting and see how it goes21:05
nickInItalyok, I'll be back21:06
nickInItalyyeah!! that did it! thanks so much!21:07
EriC^^nickInItaly: great! no problem21:08
nickInItalyyeah. thanks a lot guys... going to bed!21:10
linuxboxi'm having trouble with installing a new plymouth theme for ubuntu - tried creating a new symbolic link to the new theme but it keeps telling me to use help for proper update-alternatives program usage information21:20
oerheksmaybe this page is a help https://askubuntu.com/questions/773723/using-update-alternatives-to-change-plymouth-theme-only-affects-shutdown-animati21:22
Stochastix_s-nail  freaking NAILed it21:23
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qwebirc8249hi21:26
qwebirc8249http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfGNPgn2x6/21:26
qwebirc8249facing issue with GUI starting21:26
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qwebirc8249can somebody help me21:27
qwebirc8249struggling with the GRUB 2.02 for a while21:27
EriC^^qwebirc8249: were you here in the morning?21:27
qwebirc8249yes I was21:28
qwebirc8249tried for a while21:28
qwebirc8249and yet here I am back with no luck21:28
EriC^^qwebirc8249: didn't ubuntu boot?21:29
qwebirc8249http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfGNPgn2x6/ is the snapshot for the boot repair yet at the same palce21:29
qwebirc8249upon booting its opening the same GNU GRUB v2.02 console21:29
EriC^^qwebirc8249: didn't it work after we copied the files from efi/grub to efi/ubuntu?21:30
qwebirc8249instead of the GUI console21:30
EriC^^are you the guy called payne-something?21:30
hfpHmmm is it only me or traceroute6 has an issue displaying the fqdn its tracing to? Look at L2 vs L6: https://dpaste.de/7dz821:30
qwebirc8249@Eric guess you confused me with somebody else21:30
qwebirc8249I just got some URL for some help21:30
EriC^^qwebirc8249: ok, are you booted in the live usb on the pc right now?21:31
qwebirc8249let me do it right away21:31
qwebirc8249I am there now21:32
qwebirc8249up with live usb21:32
EriC^^qwebirc8249: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"21:32
EriC^^paste the link it gives you here21:33
linuxboxlooks great thank you gusy - now i'd love to change the lock screen that shows up after a full reboot21:33
qwebirc8249ok21:33
qwebirc8249http://termbin.com/jbc121:34
EriC^^qwebirc8249: type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"21:35
qwebirc8249done21:35
EriC^^qwebirc8249: type "ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999"21:36
qwebirc8249so with my limited understanding Eric you have mounted the other partition, rite?21:37
EriC^^qwebirc8249: yeah, i've mounted the efi partition21:37
qwebirc8249termbin.com/ncd921:38
EriC^^qwebirc8249: type "sudo cp /mnt/efi/grub/* /mnt/efi/ubuntu"21:39
qwebirc8249done21:40
EriC^^qwebirc8249: try rebooting21:40
qwebirc8249ok21:40
qwebirc8249something new this time21:41
qwebirc8249blue console type cam eup21:41
EriC^^qwebirc8249: aha21:41
EriC^^type "echo $root"21:41
qwebirc8249superb... it looks like its booting now21:41
EriC^^ok cool21:41
qwebirc8249awesome Eric21:42
EriC^^once it boots, try "sudo update-grub"21:42
qwebirc8249finally it booted21:42
qwebirc8249doing the same21:42
qwebirc8249@Eric you are a pro21:42
EriC^^qwebirc8249: can you type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999" ?21:43
qwebirc8249one last question, is there some place that you suggest to read to understand the file structure of Ubuntu for future learning21:43
EriC^^trying to see why you're getting the blue grub menu instead of the purple one21:43
EriC^^!hier | qwebirc824921:44
ubottuqwebirc8249: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier21:44
qwebirc8249termbin.com/13mf21:44
uebera||apteryx: I just found that dnsmasq actually has an option which allows you to bind a specific IP to a specific MAC address ("as usually expected"): ``Read /etc/ethers for information about hosts for the DHCP server. The format of /etc/ethers is a hardware address, followed by either a hostname or dotted-quad IP address. ' '21:44
EriC^^qwebirc8249: ah, thanks pretty empty21:45
qwebirc8249was it supposed to be having some content in there21:45
qwebirc8249thanks ubottu :)21:45
EriC^^qwebirc8249: type "sudo wget -O /etc/default/grub http://termbin.com/r4gr"21:46
EriC^^that's the default 18.04 file21:46
EriC^^then run "sudo update-grub"21:47
pjsa whole lot of grub issues the last few days (myself included)21:47
uebera||I'd like to get rid of the NetworkManager.service; however, "systemctl stop NetworkManager.service; systemctl disable NetworkManager.service; reboot" again resulted in NM writing /etc/resolv.conf. How to prevent this forever?21:47
oerhekspjs, yes, we have noticed too21:49
qwebirc8249done21:49
qwebirc8249was it Zero or O?21:49
EriC^^qwebirc8249: ok try rebooting see how stuff is21:49
kenrinWhy don't you use mask instead of disable21:49
EriC^^qwebirc8249: O21:49
qwebirc8249installing update..21:51
pjsEveryone with grub issues, please check this bug (just opened): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1781042  If it's your same issue, please add to the bug so it can get attention.21:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1781042 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "18.04 installation with internet access results in GRUB minimal BASH-like interface with no boot entries" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:51
pjsThere are already a few people responding with the same issue (exactly what my issue is)21:51
uebera||kenrin: Thanks, I've added that as well. Let's see...21:51
qwebirc8249hey Eric21:58
qwebirc8249so finally the machine restarted21:58
qwebirc8249and looks good so far21:58
RtMF..first red that as qebecbird...wtf21:58
RtMF*read21:58
EriC^^qwebirc8249: ok, cool21:59
qwebirc8249thanks a lot bud22:00
qwebirc8249really appreciate your help and cool expertise :)22:00
EriC^^no problem22:00
pjsAnyone with grub issues, I now have mine resolved. Follow the thread here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239605022:04
bobbydoogleIf im in the installer and don't see wi fi networks, whats the best next steps, I"m trying to install ubuntu on a new Lenovo y53022:21
bobbydooglekindof a make or break to use ubuntu on the laptop22:22
bobbydoogleit reports an intel corporation wi fi.... but this isnt my network22:23
linuxboxhrm i can't seem to boot into terminal, cntrl alt f1 isnt' working22:23
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fluvvelltesting...22:25
bobbydoogleIn try ubuntu I'm getting wi-fi is off.... turn on wi fi button does nothing.22:25
RumenHello there! I have a question. When I try to change the video card driver from Xorg to Nvidia nothing happens. Automatically returns to Xorg after aplly changes .... When I try to install driver from Synaptic the drivers from "Software & updates " I see it as manually installed and many funtions doesn't work at all. Already tried to purge the nvidia* and got 640x480 screen and when try to install the driver via terminal got broken dependancies which can not22:26
Rumenfix with "sudo apt --fix-bronen" or how it was the command don't rememmber it.22:26
RumenAny idea how to fix that?22:27
* RtMF sneks at bronen22:27
RtMFG?22:27
RtMF:-P22:27
* RtMF is pparently the snark today.22:27
RtMFThe quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog./22:28
RtMF\22:28
RtMFdamnit hti enter.22:28
bobbydooglewindows is connecting just fine so I suspect I have a driver issue.... Looks like Inter(R) Wireless-AC 9560.... supported?22:28
* RtMF unsetcap(RtMF,CAP_GROUP_TYPING_REQUIRED);22:28
bobbydoogleI see it here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html, I'm just wondering, I can't install in a  live environment right? Only way to test is install ubuntu and try to install driver?22:29
jackhi22:34
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JFox762everytime I close the lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.22:35
JFox762oops22:35
JFox762Im having an issue with my bluetooth connections22:35
JFox762everytime I clos ethe lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.22:35
oerheksinstall dconf-tools, open dconf Editor application, go to org => gnome => setting-deamon => plugins => power - there search for lid-close-action22:44
oerhekschange to 'nothing'22:45
geri_hi what does that mean?https://ideone.com/NbcFry ->22:46
geri_https://ideone.com/NbcFry22:46
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oerheksgeri_, better ask in the #python channels .. or Alpine ?22:52
hans_i need to unmount / , while still keeping a `nc 9999 | dd of=/dev/sda status=progress`  alive, any suggestions on how?22:55
tomreynhans_: not. what are you trying to do there, what'S the greater picture?22:57
hans_i have a backup of the harddrive on another computer that i'd like to restore.22:57
multifractalHow come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.22:58
tomreynokay, that's maybe not the greatest approach but yould work,. but you'll need to boot the system from a live usb / cd or whatever22:58
tomreynhans_: ^22:59
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tomreynyould -> should22:59
tomreynhans_: that's assuming your current / is a partition on sda23:00
hans_tomreyn, yes it is.23:00
tomreynhans_: also make sure you dont mix up partitions and storages there. is the backup image you have there of all of sda or just a partition on it, such as sda223:01
hans_it's the entire disk, /dev/sda23:01
tomreynwenn then bring it up wform a live system and run netcat there and pray that no checksumming will be necessary.23:02
hans_oh no, i'm not running secure boot or anything like that23:02
tomreyni was referring to the storage image data as it transfers over the network. but in fact there is tcp checksumming if you'll use tcp.23:04
hans_i am using tpc, and it's just over a local LAN, unless there's a power outage, it should be a very reliable connection23:04
hans_tcp*23:05
tomreynnot using tcp, mnn, well then i'm puzzled how you'll transfer the data.23:05
hans_but.. if i want to be 100% certain afterwards, i guess i can just md5 disk.img and md5 /dev/sda23:05
hans_i *am*  using tcp.23:06
tomreynoh, sorry23:06
tomreyni should clean my glasses.23:06
hans_(well, i could use UDP, but then the chance of corruption is much higher :p i won't risk that)23:06
tomreynmultifractal: this is a customer support question for your vpn provider, unless you'll explain which protoco9ls you're using, and how it's configured.23:09
tomreyn(it still is then, but then we might also be able to help)23:10
jnewtComputer locks up when dragging Firefox from one monitor to another with a video playing.  How to unlock when ctrl alt F1-6 doesn't do anything?23:10
multifractaltomreyn: OpenVPN, configured with network manager, as shown here. https://nordvpn.com/tutorials/linux/openvpn/ This issue just appeared out of the blue a couple of days ago, despite months of smooth usage.23:11
tomreynjnewt: locks up as in freezes? does the mouse pointer still move? can you still do anything using mouse and kleyboard? if not, it's time for a reboot then. and this should not happen in the first place, suggests something si pretty wrong.23:12
jnewtTomreyn, yes frozen, no mouse, no keyboard, bunch of unsaved work in a doc from the last hour or two.23:14
hans_neat, seems i'm getting away with just setting everything as "ro" in /etc/fstab, rebooting, and trafering. https://i.imgur.com/BBYY4hF.png23:15
hans_as long as nothing try to read anything from the disk, i guess i'm good (until crontab crash the system trying to read something?)23:15
tomreynmultifractal: i suggest you diagnose with them if it just happened to change out of nowhere recently23:18
tomreynjnewt: there's nothing you can do other than ...23:18
tomreyn!sysrq | jnewt23:19
ubottujnewt: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key23:19
tomreynbut your work is probably lost, unless it was incrementally stored to disk while you edited it.23:19
multifractal_tomreyn: Thanks. FWIW the Nord support people told me to modify a file called /etc/resolv.conf and replace 2 IP addresses with new ones that he provided.  (Not sure what these are -something to do with DNS servers he mentioned maybe?). Anyway now it all seems to work normally, even when VPN is turned off.23:22
stacks88so i have mysql 5.7 server installed already. i ran a apt install command that included "mariadb-server". so i quickly hit ctrl+c https://i.imgur.com/qrEhEzo.png -- have i stopped things in time?23:22
tomreynhans_: 'ro' in fstab doesn't prevent the system from reading off the disk on next boot. but it may still work, as long as you are writing to the raw device.23:22
hans_tomreyn, definitely, as /etc/fstab is also completely overwritten (with a NTFS filesystem no less)23:23
multifractal_tomreyn: I'd still be interested to hear an explanation of what caused this problem, if you have the enthusiasm.23:24
hans_i just needed the system to boot ro so it didn't corrupt my disk restore23:24
tomreynmultifractal_: this file defined the resolvers to be used by your system. it is pretty crucial these are trustable, otherwise when you access e.g. your online banking website you might actually end up on a completely different website run by someone else.23:24
hans_if anything is writing to disk while this is running, it will corrupt my restore, but that shouldn't happen when everything is mounted with ro23:24
JFox762oerheks... but the bluetooth also randomly disconnects for seemingly no reaosn23:26
tomreynmultifractal_: an explanation will take long until you've read up on how resolvers work. i can explain how things change when you use a vpn, but please read up on how resolvers work first of all.23:27
multifractal_tomreyn: thanks will do23:27
tomreynhans_: i don't know what you refer to by "my restore", but you seem to be experienced and i trust that you know what you're doing there. ;)23:28
tomreyn* "my *disk* restore"23:28
JFox762anyone know how I can fix this issue I'm having iwth my bluetooth mouse? It keeps disconnectin23:32
oerheksrecharge battery?23:32
hggdhhans_: just some observations -- you will have a new disk image that does not match what the current system *thinks* is real. The fact you booted successfully does not make this "new" disk sane23:36
hggdhhans_: this is a fantactic way to play russina roulette23:37
AngaMalta#blenderchat23:39
zuziahi23:46
zuziaanyone know how to convert *.nib file to *.d64 on linux?23:47
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tomreynmultifractal_: if you prefer watching videos over reading then watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o8CwafCxnU23:50
oerhekszuzia, d64 or c64 ?23:55
zuziad23:55
zuziacoz is c64 rom23:55
zuziabut d23:55
zuzianib is apple disc image23:56
zuziabut i need program to convert nib to d64 coz emulator commodore "vice" not open nib if not converted23:56
zuzianib tool work on windows23:57
zuziai need linux version23:57
oerheksnibtools are for amd64 too https://c64preservation.com/files/nibtools/23:57
oerheksmarch 3 201823:57
zuziai not look procesor architecture i wont unpack file from nid directly to format commodore 6423:58
zuzianib*23:58
zuzianib > d64 or g64 coz all work in vice23:59
hggdhzuzia: amd64 is the generic name for 64-bit Intel-compatible chips23:59
zuziai can do that on windows machine but i not wont :D23:59

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