[05:37] <dragon345> hi
[05:37] <dragon345> is this real
[05:37] <dragon345> i need help with sound
[05:38] <diogenes_> !ask | dragon345
[05:42] <nomenon> !patience
[05:42] <nomenon> spiffy
[05:43] <dragon345> hello, i need help with audio on my PC.  i have speakers plugged in and yet there is no sound when i try to play any music ort watch any videos.  my sound is turned up on both the speakers and computer.  and when i acess the sound settings all it says is "establishing connection to pulse audio.  please wait..."
[05:45] <nomenon> dragon345, Have you gone through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[05:46] <nomenon> if not i would start there, you can copy paste all the relevant commands and see what your working with
[05:46] <dragon345> yeah i did, started there, than asked redit.  and somehow i ended up here lol
[05:47] <nomenon> what kind of computer do you have? laptop speakers or external?
[05:48] <dragon345> i beleve they are external.  plus its a desktop and i have it hooked up to a monitor
[05:48] <dragon345> the speakers have an AUX cord that you are subposed to plug in
[05:49] <nomenon> what kind of soundcard?
[05:49] <dragon345> how would i check that
[05:49] <nomenon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[05:50] <nomenon> dragon345, sudo aplay -l
[05:52] <dragon345> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice 
[05:52] <dragon345> thats what i got
[05:53] <nomenon> so it looks like if you plug a tv into your hdmi port it would play sound :)
[05:54] <nomenon> so then the troubleshooting page says to run, find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[05:55] <nomenon> and see if you have sound modules installed
[05:55] <dragon345> only HDMI?  i think the thing im using is a DVCI or somthing.  but its a real fat plug that plugs into both my monitor and computer
[05:57] <dragon345> also i put in "/lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd" and it said it was a dictonary
[06:01] <dragon345> ~/Desktop$ /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd bash: /lib/modules/4.13.0-39-generic: Is a directory
[06:02] <nomenon>  """""find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd"""""
[06:02] <nomenon> ,,,,^
[06:02] <dragon345> ok wow, haha.  so many things popped up
[06:02] <dragon345> what am i looking for
[06:03] <nomenon> not hdmi nvidia
[06:03] <dragon345> ?
[06:05] <dragon345>  find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd /lib/modules/4.13.0-39-generic/kernel/sound/firewire/tascam/snd-firewire-tascam.ko /lib/modules/4.13.0-39-generic/kernel/sound/firewire/oxfw/snd-oxfw.ko /lib/modules/4.13.0-39-generic/kernel/sound/firewire/dice/snd-dice.ko /lib/modules/4.13.0-39-generic/kernel/sound/firewire/digi00x/snd-firewire-digi00x.ko /lib/modules/4.13.0-39-generic/kernel/sound/firewire/snd-isight.ko /lib/modules/4.13.0
[06:05] <dragon345> a bunch of that stuff
[06:05] <dragon345> wont let me send all
[06:10] <dragon345> can i upload photos somehow here
[06:13] <dragon345> nomenon?
[06:17] <dragon345> im the same dragon345 from before
[06:27] <dragon345> help my audio isnt working
[06:30] <diogenes_> dragon345, did you look into pavucontrol?
[06:33] <dragon345> yeah i did
[06:33] <dragon345> all it says is establishing connection to pulse audio.  please wait
[06:33] <dragon345> idk how to get rid of it
[06:34] <nomenon> click on mousie system task manager   kill it
[06:36] <dragon345> did that, trhan tried to open it
[06:36] <dragon345> same thing
[06:36] <diogenes_> dragon345, what is the output of: lsb_release -a and also uname -r
[06:37] <dragon345> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS Release:	16.04 Codename:	xenial
[06:37] <dragon345> 4.13.0-39-generic
[06:38] <diogenes_> oh i see, i'd advice you to write a usb stick with xubuntu 18.04 and boot it live and try the sound there
[06:39] <dragon345> i have a USB drive.  where do i go to do that and how
[06:39] <diogenes_> first download this app for writeting the usb stick: https://etcher.io/
[06:39] <diogenes_> writing*
[06:40] <diogenes_> after that you grab this torrent: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/bionic/release/desktop/xubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[06:41] <diogenes_> i guess you know how to use the torrent?
[06:41] <dragon345> nope lol, is it hard
[06:41] <diogenes_> dragon345, ok where are you from?
[06:42] <diogenes_> i'll give you the mirror for direct downlioad
[06:43] <diogenes_> at least the region, NA, SA, Europe, Northern Europe and so on...
[06:43] <dragon345> im in the USA
[06:44] <diogenes_> ok then click on this, and download it: http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/18.04/release/xubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:46] <dragon345> alright, what is that?  it seems like its going to take a while to downoad
[06:47] <diogenes_> now i need to go offline for some half an hour, after you download the .iso, you do: 1. insert the usb stick (at least 8 GB), 2. open the etcher application 3. write your usb stick with etcher 4. shutdown the pc 5. start it again and press either esc or f9 or f12 for the boot menu to pop up 5. there you choose to boot from usb and wait till it boots, once it's done booting, you can open firefox and try the youtube for sound
[06:47] <diogenes_> if you have troubles with any of the above steps, you ask here, somebody will answer, if nobody answers, be patient till i join.
[06:48] <dragon345> also, just to make sure im doing it right, i have the etcher electron on the USB stick.  Zubuntu-18.0 torrent on my pc right?
[06:49] <diogenes_> dragon345, this one you need: https://github.com/resin-io/etcher/releases/download/v1.4.4/etcher-electron-1.4.4-linux-x64.zip
[06:49] <diogenes_> click on it and download
[06:50] <dragon345> k.
[06:50]  * diogenes_ is offline
[13:32] <Jedee2011> hi guys, can someone tell me how to activate the screensaver in Xinial?
[13:32] <diogenes_> Jedee2011, you need xscreensaver installed
[13:33] <Jedee2011> is it that simple?
[13:33] <Jedee2011> jeez i feel like a dumbass
[13:33] <diogenes_> yes, also add it to startup
[13:34] <Jedee2011> i've got a list in Synaptics
[13:34] <diogenes_> what list
[13:35] <Jedee2011> screensaver:  Depends: libglade2-0 (>=1:2.6.4-2~) but it is not installable  Recommends: perl5  but it is not installable  Recommends: libgnomeui-0  but it is not installable
[13:35] <diogenes_> xscreensaver not screensaver
[13:36] <Jedee2011> ooops
[13:37] <Jedee2011> i can't find screensaver
[13:37] <Jedee2011> :(
[13:39] <diogenes_> Jedee2011, open the terminakl and run: sudo apt install xscreensaver
[13:39] <diogenes_> just copy/paste the command
[13:40] <Jedee2011> getting the above error in terminal...
[13:40] <Jedee2011> depends something
[13:42] <diogenes_> copy everything you see in the terminal including the command, paste it to https://paste.ubuntu.com/, click on Paste! and share the link here.
[13:43] <Jedee2011> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vp2mfSGYvw/
[13:44] <diogenes_> try tu run: sudo apt install -f
[13:45] <Jedee2011> yes done it
[13:45] <diogenes_> what is the output?
[13:46] <Jedee2011> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VZ4wMKxPwX/
[13:47] <diogenes_> ok now run: sudo apt autoremove after that reboot the computer and try again: sudo apt install xscreensaver
[13:47] <diogenes_> i need to quit now so good luck!
[13:48] <Jedee2011> brb reboot
[13:52] <Jedee2011_> tried Sudo apt install xscreensaver, but still japping about missing stuff
[13:54] <Jedee2011_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gCRwbqzsWZ/
[13:55] <Jedee2011_> my install is kinda old, and i've got no idea how to fix it
[13:59] <Jedee2011_> can i upgrade without wiping my HDD?
[15:06] <Jedee2011> hello everyone, how can i upgrade my xubuntu install?
[15:07] <Jedee2011> i've got a rather old install, but no money for a new external HDD to copy all the important files
[15:09] <GridCube> Jedee2011: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:11] <Jedee2011> yay thanks ! does it also fix problems and such?
[15:11] <Jedee2011> it's a very old install
[15:12] <GridCube> no idea
[15:12] <Jedee2011> i'm on Xenial now
[15:13] <Jedee2011> i just have to press enter, should i close all the programs running now?
[15:13] <Jedee2011> internet, mail and a couple of other programs...
[15:13] <GridCube> shouldn't bother those much
[15:13] <Jedee2011> ok, "here goes"
[15:13] <GridCube> you'll need to reboot at the end though
[15:14] <Jedee2011> okay !
[15:14] <GridCube> usual reminder to save your important data on regular backups because no one garanties that they'll not get lost by some mistake
[15:15] <Jedee2011> i understand...
[15:15] <GridCube> :)
[15:15] <GridCube> then you should be fine
[15:15] <Jedee2011> i'm holding on tight, and keep my fingers crossed
[15:17] <Jedee2011> 9 minutes....
[15:17] <Jedee2011> brb i hope
[15:44] <nomenon> uh oh
[15:44] <nomenon> hes yet to return >:(
[16:45] <Jedee> Hi guys... Did a full upgrade now im stuck st my ligin screen
[16:45] <Jedee> Login
[16:45] <GridCube> ok
[16:45] <GridCube> go to a tty and login
[16:46] <Jedee> If i enter my password the screen goes black an back to the ligin screen
[16:46] <GridCube> yes
[16:46] <GridCube> press ctrl-alt-F1 to F6 to go to atty
[16:47] <GridCube> there login using your credentials
[16:48] <Jedee> Im in the tty?
[16:48] <GridCube> there you have to run " mv .ICEauthority .ICEauthOLD " and " mv .Xauthority .XauthOLD "
[16:49] <GridCube> to rename those files, then you just press ctrl-alt-F7 to go to the X session and try login in again
[16:50] <Jedee> So all the above i need to enter
[16:51] <GridCube> mv .ICEauthority .ICEauthOLD
[16:51] <GridCube> mv .Xauthority .XauthOLD
[16:51] <Jedee> Sorry this is new for me
[16:51] <GridCube> i mean you could delete them but i don't like to teach rm to people that is not used to tty
[16:52] <Jedee> I stll have my home folder right?
[16:52] <GridCube> yes
[16:52] <GridCube> this will only reset your credentials so you can log in normally
[16:53] <nomenon> Jedee, you are skipping your GUI desktop, and using a command line to move some config files out of the way so your GUI will open
[16:55] <Jedee> Ok reading this from foon hang on
[16:57] <Jedee> Do i have to enter all the ice autority stuff?
[16:58] <Jedee> The paswoord is still wrong
[17:00] <Jedee> (
[17:00] <Jedee> Im a idiot
[17:02] <diogenes_> Jedee, i hope you have a bootable xubuntu usb stick?
[17:03] <Jedee> Yes
[17:04] <Jedee> Can i fix it with that?
[17:05] <diogenes_> Jedee, then boot into the live session, open thunar, find your current home folder, press ctrl+h to see the hidden files and remove those files
[17:05] <diogenes_> .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[17:09] <Jedee> I, m in the live cd
[17:09] <diogenes_> proceed then
[17:09] <diogenes_> be extremely careful what you remove :)
[17:10] <Jedee> No ice auth
[17:10] <diogenes_> you need these: .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[17:10] <Jedee> Got it
[17:11] <Jedee> Cant delete
[17:11] <diogenes_> why
[17:11] <diogenes_> what does it say?
[17:12] <Jedee> An x
[17:12] <diogenes_> ok right click on some white space in that folder
[17:12] <diogenes_> and click on open terminal here
[17:12] <Jedee> Yes
[17:12] <diogenes_> now run this: sudo -s thunar
[17:13] <Jedee> Im in !!!
[17:14] <diogenes_> so it opened a new thunar window, now navigate to that same home folder and remove those two files
[17:14] <Jedee> Deletrd the ice auth stuff
[17:14] <Jedee> 2 files
[17:14] <GridCube> yes
[17:14] <diogenes_> ok now reboot and hopefully you done
[17:14] <GridCube> now you can try login in normally
[17:14] <GridCube> :)
[17:15] <Jedee> Ill let you all know
[17:15] <diogenes_> don't forget about fingers crossed :)
[17:17] <Jedee> No luck
[17:17] <Jedee> Still same
[17:17] <Jedee> Should i try again?
[17:17] <GridCube> did you delete those files from your home folder?
[17:17] <Jedee> Yes
[17:17] <GridCube> or accidentally from the livecd's folder :P
[17:18] <diogenes_> also are you sure no capslock is interfering with your password? and you typing it right?
[17:20] <Jedee> Retrying livecd
[17:20] <diogenes_> yes, now first thing you check if those 2 files are gone
[17:21] <diogenes_> if they are gone then we could try another thing
[17:23] <Jedee> There was just one file left
[17:23] <Jedee> Should i delete more?
[17:23] <diogenes_> hehe which one?
[17:23] <Jedee> No idea
[17:24] <diogenes_> you said one file left
[17:24] <diogenes_> what file
[17:24] <Jedee> The xauth file
[17:24] <diogenes_> you mean .Xauthority
[17:24] <Jedee> Yes
[17:25] <diogenes_> ok right click, open the terminal
[17:25] <Jedee> Yes
[17:25] <diogenes_> run: sudo -s rm .Xauthority
[17:27] <Jedee> Commamd not found
[17:28] <diogenes_> ok then: sudo -s thunar
[17:30] <Jedee> Im in thunar
[17:31] <diogenes_> now you know what to do, find your home folder, ctrl+h and look for .Xauthority file
[17:31] <Jedee> Deleted those
[17:31] <Jedee> Restart?
[17:32] <diogenes_> wait wait
[17:32] <Jedee> Ok
[17:32] <diogenes_> which those? the same ones you deleted previously?
[17:32] <Jedee> Yes
[17:32] <diogenes_> right click on the white space, properties
[17:32] <diogenes_> tell me the space of the folder
[17:32] <diogenes_> size
[17:33] <Jedee> 991 gb
[17:33] <diogenes_> ok, now tell me what other files starting with .X are in the folder
[17:34] <Jedee> X defaults xsession errors
[17:35] <diogenes_> ok, while you're in that folder, try to also rename the .config folder to something like .config.old
[17:35] <Jedee> Okay
[17:35] <diogenes_> and the .cache folde rename to .cache.old
[17:36] <Jedee> Done
[17:36] <diogenes_> are you connected to the internet on the live session?
[17:37] <Jedee> Yes
[17:37] <Jedee> Im on my phone
[17:37] <diogenes_> ok now run in terminal: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:37] <diogenes_> you gonna get a link as the output, so you write here in the chat the link you get
[17:39] <Jedee2012> duh offcourse i could do it via the web
[17:39] <Jedee2012> sorry both on phone and now internet
[17:40] <Jedee2012> could you please show me the code again?
[17:40] <diogenes_> lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:41] <Jedee2012> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XTvMrCvp3p/
[17:42] <diogenes_> what command did ou run?
[17:42] <Jedee2012> the above
[17:42] <Jedee2012> lsblk nc....
[17:43] <diogenes_> nope, it's wrong but anyways, i gtg now, you can try and reboot and see if your issue is fixed, if not then i hope people here with help you further on.
[17:43] <Jedee2012> thanks anyway !
[17:43]  * diogenes_ is off
[17:45] <Jedee> Still no luck
[19:40] <alex_> hey guys can i ask does anyone know if the latest iso has support for installing into baytrial devices?  What i mean is they have a 32bit EFI but 64bit CPU so you need a hybrid boot file.
[19:40] <alex_> thanks
[19:41] <lopta> alex_: Is that true of all Bay Trail devices?
[19:42] <alex_> i'm not sure lopta
[19:42] <lopta> alex_: Do you have disks >2T in size?
[19:42] <alex_> i have this Linx 1010 touchscreen tablet transformer thing
[19:42] <alex_> it has a 64bit CPU but the EFI is only 32bit so some things won't boot, you can modify and respin the iso's if neccessary
[19:43] <lopta> alex_: Does it have BIOS too?
[19:43] <lopta> ...or just EFI?
[19:43] <alex_> nope
[19:43] <lopta> (UEFI?)
[19:44] <alex_> not sure, i've literally only managed to get things DD'd to a usb to boot
[19:44] <lopta> Well that's something, anyway.
[19:44] <lopta> I'm glad you were able to boot from USB.
[19:44] <alex_> it shipped with Windows 8, i've had Windows 10.2 and Ubuntu, Kali, Xubuntu and Parrot Linux on it so far, also managed to boot Android-x86
[19:48] <alex_> however the accelerometer doesnt work, touch screen did
[19:49] <lopta> Promising overall then.
[19:49] <alex_> when i'm not so poor i'll buy a surface lol
[19:51] <nomenon> alex_ likely more entertaining with your current route :)
[19:54] <alex_> for sure, i love the little thing.  cost me 60 euro on ebay
[19:55] <lopta> Bargain! :-)
[20:03] <alex_> wifi card doesn't support monitor mode but it looks rather cool with a USB Alfa clipped on the back lol
[20:40] <xubuntu17w> Hi there. I don't use IRC much, so please forgive me using a guest login.
[20:41] <xubuntu17w> I noticed the pop-up ui for volume control doesn't have a mute option in Xubuntu 18.04. Can this be changed?
[20:45] <lopta> Hello xubuntu17w
[21:01] <xubuntu17w> Hi
[21:01] <xubuntu17w> Best solution I've come up with so far is:
[21:01] <xubuntu17w> amixer -D pulse set Master 1+ toggle
[21:02] <xubuntu17w> Should have been built into the UI, I think.
[21:02] <xubuntu17w> Wonder whose idea this was.
[21:03] <diogenes_> xubuntu17w, there is mute switch for both volume and microphone
[21:03] <lopta> I couldn't say.  I'm not near a Linux box.
[21:04] <xubuntu17w> Is there a cloud service you guys prefer to share images for screenshots?
[21:04] <diogenes_> imgur
[21:06] <xubuntu17w> Ahh, yeah. Its the pulseaudio panel plugin that I'm talking about
[21:06] <xubuntu17w> In 14.04, when you clicked on the icon it muted
[21:08] <xubuntu17w> PritScr used to trigger a nice diaglog in Xubuntu 14.04. Not in 18.04?
[21:09] <xubuntu17w> *PrintScr
[21:09] <diogenes_> xubuntu17w, watch this: http://i.imgur.com/cx19gDa.png
[21:10] <xubuntu17w> That's a still image of the slider moved to mute. I'm looking for a click, as opposed to a slide solution.
[21:11] <xubuntu17w> Right now I just added a new launcher to my panel that runs a toggle command to amixer
[21:11] <diogenes_> oh ok
[21:24] <bauxit> Hi, I am installing my new (used) laptop and I would keep it minimal as much as I can. I have been started with Ubuntu minimal iso and I am at the DE install part. I am going for XFCE4 but cannot make decision between simple xfce4 and xfce4 --no-install-recommends
[21:24] <bauxit> Is there any reasonable difference between the two result?
[21:31] <lopta> bauxit: I could test it but probably won't have time this week.
[21:31] <krytarik> bauxit: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/xfce4 - for reference.
[21:32] <lopta> Does Xfce4 installed that way differ a lot from the Xfce4 in Xubuntu?
[21:32] <krytarik> Yep.
[21:33] <lopta> Aha!
[21:33] <nomenon> bauxit, just use mini.iso and install xubuntu desktop meta package    unless you legit have like 2gb hdd
[21:35] <Unit193> You could even select the Core task if you prefer to select your own browser, office suite, etc.  I'd recommend tasks over metas.
[21:36] <nomenon> i likely used the wrong word
[21:36] <nomenon> i was just referring to the xubuntu desktop option on the mini installer
[21:36] <Unit193> That indeed would be the task.
[21:37] <nomenon> I started with the core but found it easier to remove a couple things then add a bunch
[21:38] <bauxit> I did not get the DE selection menu so I am going for the manual install but would be great to keep it minimal 'cause I use approx 30% only from the pre-installed softwares
[21:38] <bauxit> I do not care about built-in games/cdburner/etc
[21:39] <bauxit> so if I could skip them with the no install recommends argument woudl be fine
[21:41] <bauxit> btw I checked the potential disk usage in the install command summary and without recommends it should use 130MB only but without the argument it would use 661MB
[21:42] <krytarik> Because it'll be missing out all of Xorg too then.
[21:45] <nomenon> bauxit, I think some virtualization software to play around before hand would work well for you >:D
[21:45] <lopta> Does Xubuntu use Wayland or X11 ...or both?
[21:45] <bauxit> forgive me if I ask dumb question but Xorg should not be a required dependecy or if it is why will ignore the whole xorg?
[21:46] <lopta> nomenon: That's not an option for everyone.
[21:46] <Unit193> bauxit: Try  apt install xubuntu-desktop^  vs  apt install xubuntu-core^  ?
[21:46] <nomenon> lopta, why
[21:47] <lopta> nomenon: I used to run VMs on my old work laptop but my new work laptop has that capability disabled.
[21:47] <nomenon> you can use virtualbox off a usb at the library
[21:47] <lopta> nomenon: ...and none of my test rigs at work can do virtualisation.
[21:47] <bauxit> Unit193: ubuntu-core install would take 1345MB
[21:47] <bauxit> I do not think it is for me :D
[21:47] <lopta> nomenon: That doesn't sound very practical.
[21:47] <bauxit> sorry xubuntu-core
[21:48] <Unit193> bauxit: That was with the carrot?
[21:48] <bauxit> carrot?
[21:48] <Unit193> And interesting, I'll have to look.
[21:48] <lopta> Caret ^
[21:48] <bauxit> without
[21:49] <Unit193> Caret*
[21:49] <bauxit> just `xubuntu-core`
[21:49] <Unit193> Yeah all bets are off with that, then.
[21:51] <nomenon> roughly 1gb difference
[21:51] <lopta> Corporate IT said virtualisation shouldn't be disabled on my work laptop but I don't think they know how to turn it on.
[21:52] <nomenon> lopta, bios settings
[21:52] <lopta> nomenon: Can't get into the CMOS setup program ("BIOS")
[21:52] <nomenon> hack it
[21:52] <lopta> Don't think it even has one.
[21:52] <lopta> brb, phone
[21:52] <bauxit> tbh looks to me all DE going to be more and more bloatware with many unnecessary built-in apps but I do not get the poit why it is going to be a standard
[21:52] <nomenon> oh ya
[21:53] <lopta> I have to go.
[22:21] <bauxit> well, I just quickly installed xorg and xfce4 wihtout recommends and the result was (O.o)
[22:21] <bauxit> so that was too minimal... that's all, thanks guys
[22:22] <nomenon> lol