/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/07/11/#ubports.txt

ubptgbot<amolith> Do we have a QR code scanner on UT?04:17
ubptgbot<Daien> (Sticker, 512x398) https://irc.ubports.com/zZpDuj3z.webp04:19
ubptgbot<John_athan> @amolith, Is This u r talking about https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger05:10
ubptgbot<amolith> @John_athan, That is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you! I had thought we might have one in the camera or browser but I wasn't sure05:13
ubptgbot<John_athan> @amolith, It will be cool if browser has inbuilt qr, night mode and data saving features05:18
ubptgbotGregory was added by: Gregory05:47
ubptgbot<John_athan> Which time zone does this upload happened http://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/16.04/rc/06:50
ubptgbot<gostranger> https://t.me/techtalkrp07:10
ubptgbot<advocatux> It's better to link to the new OpenStore https://open-store.io/app/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger07:26
ubptgbotabhinavmanoj was added by: abhinavmanoj07:30
ubptgbot<advocatux> @abhinavmanoj, Hi Abhinav, welcome(back?)! Check out https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started :)07:43
ubptgbot<abhinavmanoj> i am super excited to use the ubuntu touch but when i tried to install it shows my device is incompatible. I am using Moto G3 ( 2015 ). Is there any way to install it on my device ?07:48
ubptgbot<advocatux> This is the supported devices list https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/07:52
ubptgbot<advocatux> The only way is porting UT to your device07:53
ubptgbot<advocatux> There's some WIP to ported to Halium, a necessary first step to port it to UT https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/5707:54
ubptgbot<advocatux> [Edit] There's some WIP to ported it to Halium, a necessary first step to port it to UT https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/5707:54
ubptgbot<ar7ch> @gostranger, spam07:57
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yeah, removed07:58
ubptgbot<advocatux> @gostranger you're spamming many UT groups. This is the first and last warning before being banned08:00
ubptgbot<gostranger> Kk08:13
ubptgbot<advocatux> @gostranger, You still didn't remove your spam post in the Install group08:27
ubptgbot<gostranger> Removing08:37
ubptgbot<advocatux> @gostranger, Thank you08:39
ubptgbot<jqhew> does Ubuntu touch system support otg?09:26
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Yes it does09:29
ubptgbot<jqhew> All09:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> Yep, all phones support OTG09:31
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @amolith, This is crazy timing eh @Eranuzan ?? Haha11:12
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> I just messaged Eran about this. Let us know if there is a link to feature request etc that we discussed other day or if you need someone to file it.11:17
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> @John_athan, Just updated to rc4 on fairphone11:25
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> RC comes every wednesday11:26
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Yep but i think he asked for time11:33
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Like wednesday, 4pm11:34
ubptgbot<Eranuzan> @wayneoutthere, yeah i guess I should really get on it instead of fiddling with the music app 😁11:45
ubptgbot<Gilmars> @advocatux, OTG is not working on my Nexus 4. ☹12:14
ubptgbot<Gilmars> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/6X0lEvFl.png The touch is broken. I need to replace it12:17
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Gilmars, The necessary hardware is there, so that's a software problem12:24
ubptgbot<garrogarri> @Gilmars, Nexus 4 Hardware does not support OTG, indeed12:24
ubptgbot<garrogarri> @advocatux, No, it isn't12:24
ubptgbot<advocatux> @garrogarri, The hardware is there, see this for example https://www.androidcentral.com/android-advanced-usb-otg-nexus-412:25
ubptgbot<garrogarri> Nexus 4 usb port does not provide power to connected devices, thus it does not support USB OTG12:25
ubptgbot<advocatux> Please, read the article. You need an special cable12:26
ubptgbot<Gilmars> @advocatux, Exactly. I need a special cable to  power it. … 😭12:46
ubptgbot<wouterx> wouter@ik:~/Downloads/fp2$ adb devices  … List of devices attached … GNU/Linux Device on rndis0 10.15.19.82  device12:47
ubptgbot<wouterx> nice new device name ...12:47
ubptgbotMichael was added by: Michael12:50
ubptgbot<Eranuzan> initail music app cover swipe  changes :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqY_5a9u9q413:00
ubptgbotActura was added by: Actura13:19
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @Eranuzan, :D13:20
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> +113:20
ubptgbot<Gilmars> @advocatux, I have an OTG Y Cable. It's not working on Nexus 4. I tested with my Xiaomi phone and it's working... haha13:30
ubptgbot<Gilmars> Software problem (Nexus4)?13:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Gilmars, no13:32
ubptgbot<Gilmars> The Nexus 4is being charged with the OTG Y, but mouse/keyboard is not working. … 😭13:32
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> What is ubports apps13:53
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Cats13:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> ?13:55
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> I,m on rc4 and i see in updates, filemanager from ubports app cars13:55
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> The preinstalled fm app is indeed an older version13:56
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Isn,t fm a core app?13:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> it is13:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's still a click though13:58
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @popescu_sorin, Version bump foro xenial13:59
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Because it was buggy before13:59
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Update bug13:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> also what is "rc4" exactly?14:00
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> release candidate version 414:00
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> https://system-image.ubports.com/16.04/rc/FP2/14:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> ok14:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> i thought we were using `2018-W28` or such for RC now14:03
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> mine it says 2018-07-11/214:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> what the heck is wrong with qt scrolling14:04
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> well.... old bug14:04
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> check the milestones14:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes i know14:05
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Unexpected hover events14:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> i was just messing in the apps scope, and it sometimes work, and sometimes not14:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> depending on how much pressure i put on the screen14:05
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> its a mystery14:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, is that why the keyboard/lock screen stuff is slow too?14:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The keyboard staying a couple of frames longer than it should probably isn't the same thing14:06
ubptgbot<Flohack> @popescu_sorin, Please only refer to the release numbers through the system settings about dialogue. As all devices have different incremental build numbers, it is hard to track which device rc has which number14:11
ubptgbot<Flohack> But the unified one is only visible in sstem settings14:11
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> there are 214:30
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> in system settings -> updates, ubuntu touch version 414:31
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> in system setttings -> about, 2018-w2814:31
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> so yeah in about it is indeed 2018-w2814:32
ubptgbot<Flohack> ^^14:36
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hmm.14:36
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So now we have docs translations in zh_Hans... but ReadTheDocs doesn't support that language14:37
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I must track this down14:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> that's not a valid language code though for gettext either, is it?14:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The GNU gettext manual doesn't list any more than two- and three-letter language codes14:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> what is zh_Hans supposed to be?14:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> simplified chinese for China, Singapore and Malaysia14:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Whereas zh_CN is known as mainland china14:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> This is the information I got from the translator14:45
ubptgbot<dohbee> looking at wikipedia, it seems zh_CN is the correct locale for that14:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Chinese_characters#Singapore_and_Malaysia14:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's a language code combined with a script code14:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> "same characters as mainland China"14:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Okay. @njlyf2011, would it be okay if we moved your zh-hans translations into zh_CH?14:48
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> [Edit] Okay. @njlyf2011, would it be okay if we moved your zh-hans translations into zh_CN?14:48
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Chinese_characters#Web_pages … I'd say this is how we arrived at -hans14:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> ah, hmm. i guess that would be for the header handling though14:50
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well I don't really have an option for both14:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I don't think RTD even supports RFC-5646 language-script codes14:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah, no idea14:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> it does support zh_CN though i presume?14:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Looking in the code, there's a comment that says `# Try these to test our non-2 letter language support`14:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Yep14:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> seems like that's where it belongs and rtd should handle any necessary transmogrification of locale vs script codes internally14:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> the right way to specify the script in gettext though would be like `zh_CN@Hans`14:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> though i'm not sure if gettext actually rectognizes that14:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well, for now we've turned off adding of translations so we don't get into another situation like this (or we can at least see it coming)14:55
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Which is good because each separate translation is a new project in the eyes of RTD14:55
ubptgbot<dohbee> sure14:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> and standards are great becuase so many say you should do the same thing in different ways14:56
ubptgbot<tone36> Anyone here with lg d802?14:58
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> LG G2. Are you trying to port it?14:59
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (European version)14:59
ubptgbot<tone36> Yes14:59
ubptgbot<tone36> That's why I'm asking but i need to start with halium first I guess15:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yep, always a good choice. https://docs.halium.org is the place to go for that15:00
ubptgbot<tone36> What phone you have?15:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Too many...15:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But the G2 is not one of them15:01
ubptgbotPhotojoe4 was added by: Photojoe415:36
ubptgbot<Photojoe4> I should be getting a Nexus 5 today. Is it necessary (or desirable) to root it before using the UBports Installer, or does it just need to be unlocked?15:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, just unlocked bootloader15:37
ubptgbot<Photojoe4> Fantastic, can't wait to try this out...one more step to de-Apple my life....15:39
ubptgbotJurassic410 was added by: Jurassic41015:58
ubptgbot<balcy> rc17:05
ubptgbot<Jurassic410> There is a place where i can download the .img file?17:48
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Jurassic410, The .img of what exactly? If you mean "to install UT", you need to use the ubports-installer https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/17:58
ubptgbot<Jurassic410> @advocatux, the installer didn't work, so i'm looking for the img file to flash it manually17:59
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Jurassic410, If you have issues with the installation process, please join https://t.me/WelcomePlus to get help18:00
ubptgbot<Jurassic410> @advocatux, thx18:01
ubptgbot<advocatux> yw18:01
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> Silly question. But OnePlus One running 15.04, still has the camera zoom not working right?19:00
ubptgbotDirod was added by: Dirod19:58
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> @AlexanderPlaza, And 16.0420:02
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @AlexanderPlaza, I thought 15.04 was working fine, but 16.04 was not.20:16
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome all !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome20:17
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> @PhoenixLandPirate, So did I. But I flashed last night a phone to 15 and the zoom function doesn’t work.20:20
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> Never had OPO on 15 only 16 which doesn't work always thought 15 never worked20:25
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> It listed as an issue on devices list20:25
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> devices.ubuntu-touch.io20:31
ubptgbotred3rg was added by: red3rg20:31
ubptgbot<red3rg> how to install on sony ericsson xperia arc s lt18i20:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> you would need to create a port for that device20:33
ubptgbot<red3rg> I do not really understand this20:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ is the list of currently supported devices20:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> each device must have a specific port built for it20:37
ubptgbot<red3rg> how to do it?20:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> have you ever built android roms from source for other devices before?20:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> you can follow the link under the community ports about "how to create a halium port for your device"20:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> but it requires lots of patience, some development skills, and that the necessary pieces (kernel source and vendor/device trees) are available from the manufacturer for your device20:44
ubptgbot<red3rg> from your words, I realized that I will not succeed.20:45
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> @Lakotaubp, I thought that issue was just for 16.04 issues20:53
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Did anyone else just have to reauthenticate for Telegram, on Vivid?20:59
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> @AlexanderPlaza, No. This is the current list and as the blerb states devices will shortly move to 16.0421:03
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> But it's based on 15.04 legacy image21:03
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> @TartanSpartan, That happens to me from time to time.21:12
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> @AlexanderPlaza, There is another site that pops up ubports.devices.com where the camera issue is not mentioned.21:18
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> Which might have caused the confusion21:19
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> Please use deices.ubuntu-touch.io21:21
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> It's fine for now. I guess it won't be an issue when 16.04 lands and they can work on any back log stuff21:31
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> 😊21:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Lakotaubp, https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io21:32
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> @dohbee, Thanks missed that21:33
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> Fwd from riccardovidotto: Hi everybody! I've just installed Xenial 16.04/rc on my BQ Aquaris M10 FHD and the screen still stay on portrait modi, it doesn't go on landscape mode. Anyone has this problem?21:36
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> [Edit] Please use devices.ubuntu-touch.io21:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> @riccardovidotto, you mean only the lock screen, or the shell and apps after unlocking?21:38
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> @dohbee, I mean shell and apps after unlocking21:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> and the lock rotation indicator is not in the top panel?21:39
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> @dohbee, Nope, the rotation isn't blocked21:40
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> Neither on settings21:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @riccardovidotto, if you toggle it a few times does it have any effect?21:41
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> @dohbee, Nope21:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @riccardovidotto, if you open the indicators and go all the way over to the far right to the system indicator (power/gear icon) does it have an option for tablet/staged or windowed/desktop mode?21:43
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> @dohbee, Yes it does, but the shell still doens't rotate21:44
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/39321:51
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> I've found this issue on Github but, honestly, I can't understand the solution21:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> the solution was a code change. so it should already be fixed if you're running current rc21:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> what does the build number say in system settings exactly?21:57
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> 2018-W2822:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> ok. i'm not sure then. please comment on that github issue that you are experiencing the problem again with that version and with your device info22:10
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> @dohbee, Ok thanks!!22:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> If app devs were to set up individual patreons for example, what sort of rewards would people like to see for their donations, beyond just the apps themselves?22:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> Or would people prefer to donate to app devs via some other method to support their developing apps?22:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I think you can set up the Donate link in the open-store, so you'll get that exposure22:24
ubptgbot<padraic7a> I would pay for apps. I am dubious about patreon but could be convinced. I think I would be turned off by restrictions i.e. Patron only access to issues or source code. Would probably enjoy a chance to vote on things, but would assume that devs need work on topics they've interested in. … Would probably enjoy idea of a suite of ap22:26
ubptgbotps being developed. So there's some overarching theme tying apps together. The simplemobiletools.com idea might be worth looking at. It might also suit a stretch goal type idea.22:26
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @dohbee, Maybe names in the about section of the app at a certain level22:31
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> I'd rather see a pwyw system ala ElementaryOS' AppCenter22:32
ubptgbot<padraic7a> One thing I would see obvious value in would be tutorials based on the code produced. Something like "rodney_tool001" links this qml for the GUI with this exposed python function. A "hello world" template based on the same idea can be seen here. … Or "this code references this system call. A full list of all system calls can be se22:39
ubptgboten here..."22:39
ubptgbotxylobol was added by: xylobol22:53
ubptgbot<xylobol> yo!22:53
ubptgbot<xylobol> quick question: … is it possible to install with multirom on the 1+1?22:54

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