[00:00] i like linux [00:00] half dey i looking for terminal commend but not luck [00:00] zuzia: oerheks already answered you [00:01] see the readme text : nibconv filename.nib filename.g64 https://c64preservation.com/files/nibtools/readme.txt [00:01] Hi there, I am looking for minimal ubuntu 18.04 on Docker Hub, but I cannot seem to find it. Could someone point me to it? Is it even there? [00:01] this is all i know, i have no roms to simulate. [00:02] Linux with OpenCBM 0.4.0 or higher [00:02] where i finde this opencmb i must compile this first? [00:03] i look nib tools in synaptic but not find [00:04] salasrod, i just read this https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/09/minimal-ubuntu-released [00:04] then i think this not exist linux version [00:05] so now [00:05] but this txt tell something difrent [00:05] my Bluetooth mouse wont even connect to my laptop [00:05] salasrod: Here ? https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/09/minimal-ubuntu-released . [00:05] the mouse isn't broken, I just tested it with my phone, and it works [00:05] ok i look if i end i write u answer thx for now :) [00:05] oerheks: is still the fastest gun :P === notreal is now known as notreal- [00:06] oerheks, Bashing-om: Right, that's the release post, but there's not `docker pull` command there, and the ubuntu:18.04 is 80MB, not 29MB like the article claims. [00:11] salasrod: Not downloaded so can not veriry: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/minimal/releases/bionic/ . [00:13] Hello [00:14] Thanks Bashing-om, but that's not the docker image, just regular images for LXC and other shenanigans. Thank you though. [00:15] um, wrong chan sry, was planning on doing model dev with Blender [00:16] salasrod: :( .. I guess then I am not in your league . [00:20] ahh it's a wonderful day [00:32] raynold short skirts day ? [00:32] i am wondering if its possible to encrypt a 18.04 server after configuration [00:32] Lost_Goatwhy would you encrypt a server, just encrypt your data [00:32] no nvidia-364 package in 18.04? :( i have a GeForce GTX 960M [00:33] uboa no it's closed source these day [00:33] s [00:33] so... install from website... or something? [00:33] enable 3rd party repos [00:33] whats the best command over ssh to issue to release/renew a lease [00:34] Al_nz1 restart network ? [00:35] spaces: what about sudo dhclient -r eth0 && dhclient eth0 ? [00:35] another way to rome [00:36] k [00:36] sudo service network-manager restart ? [00:36] says network-manager service not found [00:36] hmmph [00:36] no networking [00:38] well I am ssh on the box - so there is a network functionality [00:38] and it can ping etc === bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan [00:40] Never touched my gnome, used something else, now I opened it, and it autoruns thunar. What? And a xterm is open also, on the startup, I'm not sure why, but yes thunar is my default file browser [00:40] networking is a running service [00:44] #join [00:51] what is the elegant way to disable a systemd service? [00:52] permanently, so it won't come back on reboot. [00:52] but I would like to be able to re-enable it later. [00:52] mask it... systemctl mask [00:52] if you want something more than systemctl disable that is [00:53] systemctl disable sounds like what I want [00:53] unmask to unmask it [00:54] with disable, there are ways it can be reenabled.... mask takes care of that [00:55] mask won't let anything start it until you've unmasked it [00:56] disable is valid, for this session. [00:56] now do as sonicwind suggests [00:57] i just dont' want it running on boot [01:01] destroy the service unit file :-D [01:06] lol systemctl destroy [01:09] I am trying to install Ubuntu over a CentOS install. However, the Ubuntu installer is saying it can’t overwrite the partition since it’s LVM based. How can I wipe the entire drive array and start over? [01:12] mrproper, reformat the partitions [01:12] or delete them all together [01:12] UserUS: How? The installer is giving me the error and not letting me delete them. [01:13] mrproper, when you boot, choose the try ubuntu option [01:13] UserUS: Oh and use the partition tool in that instead of in the installer? [01:13] mrproper, yeah, just delete them and then you can install in the same session [01:13] UserUS: Very cool. Does that require a mouse? [01:14] mrproper, well, I guess technically no, because ubuntu shows you all the key shortcuts when it boots [01:14] UserUS: I’m installing it on a server which I don’t have a mouse connected to. So I’ll need to dig up a wired mouse, which may not be easy. [01:16] I’m going to try it without a mouse. Thank you. [01:18] I set thunar as my default file browser. and it always comes up when I start gnome, why ? [01:18] xjkx, it's probably a startup program [01:19] UserUS: where do I check it === BrAsS_mO- is now known as BrAss_mOnKeY === BrAss_mOnKeY is now known as BrAsS_mOnKeY [01:21] xjkx, run gnome-session-properties in a terminal [01:22] Some ssh key agent, an audio recorder, nvidia x server settings, and snap user application autostart helper [01:27] xjkx, how'd you install it? [01:28] UserUS: gnome? it just came in ubuntu, but i never really used it, I was using openbox but now sometimes it just freezes out of nowhere, so I decided to give gnome a go, but, I find it weird it autostarts a xterm that calls thunar, my default file browser [01:30] xjkx, how did you install the browser [01:30] I'm trying to install the server edition of ubuntu but the disks aren't in the server aren't being listen [01:30] UserUS: apt-get [01:30] The computer is a dell poweredge 2800 [01:30] I'm trying to install the server edition of ubuntu but the disks in the server aren't being listed* [01:32] xjkx, could be the snap package one [01:33] UserUS: ok, thank you [01:33] UserUS: Real time followup. I downloaded a minimal installer so it didn’t have GUI. Redownloading server. [01:33] amazoniantoad: just a fyi: if you don't get an answer here, you can try #ubuntu-server [01:34] guiver_d: thanks [01:38] mrproper, nice [01:39] i love vagina [01:39] Well then. [01:48] @aib [01:58] Hello I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Lenovo Y530. I can get it to boot into the live cd. And everything works fine for like 3 seconds, after that all keyboard input stops working. Mouse buttons stop working as well. However I can move the mouse. And thats literally all i can do. Any tips? [02:00] Also i forgot to note im trying to install 18.04 [02:02] Gr33ntea: just a suggestion.. did you try with usb keyboard? [02:02] Unfortunately do not have one D:, out of curiosity why would that help? [02:03] Gr33ntea_: try to install with out and internet connecion " here has been some issues recently with updating during install " : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396050 . [02:04] I don't think that is the problem as i can't even get that far into the installation. [02:05] it hangs almost immediately (usually 3 seconds in) [02:05] at which point i can no longer right click or left click, and i also cant type anything [02:05] I had issues once with my bay-trail laptop.. and had to use USB keyboard to install Ubuntu [02:05] pitsnap: and after tht the regular keyboard worked fine? [02:06] yes, installed ubuntu... after reboot.. had to apt-get update/upgrade [02:06] and disconnected my usb keyboard, and everything worked.. [02:07] Okay I will try and borrow one, and see if it works out. Thank you friend :) [02:08] uw :) === davor_ is now known as davor [02:16] I have 64 mixed size hard drives all addressible in a storage shelf connected to a sserver running ubuntu 16.04 lts. I need to format (Not zero, just wiping the partition table would be fine) I've looked around a lot and I just seriously can't get a good idea the best way to do it. [02:19] chirrups: try using gparted or GNOME disks application [02:19] pitsnap, I plan on bringing these things into a LVM group. they're all mixed use, crazy different partitions and sizes [02:20] gparted .ect is great for wiping the partition on one disk [02:20] there's no fxxing way I am typing all of those commands per disk [02:20] if you do not have GUI/Desktop access .. for console/term using fdisk [02:20] chirrups: then script it [02:21] Therein lies the problem [02:21] I'm a linux noob [02:21] I could whip this together in powershell with like 50 characters [02:21] chirrups: use gdisk and a for loop run through some regex version of lsblk [02:21] Ok [02:21] that I can do [02:21] use dd command and script it [02:21] ^ I don't want to zero them [02:21] pitsnap: dd won't format [02:21] They're used [02:21] dd will overwrite hdds.. [02:22] pitsnap: dd won't format [02:22] Right I am risking bringing these things into a JBOD as it is [02:22] to be clear [02:22] I"m not here looking for someone to provide me a script [02:22] Just guidance [02:23] chirrups: I think I gave you a good place to start [02:23] Well you did, I should be able to do some kind of easy loop [02:23] That's what I'd do in powershell [02:23] I need to express that I know legit fucking nothing [02:24] about linux [02:24] Like I have no idea what I'd even look for [02:24] "Linux scripting syntax" is like the closest I can get [02:24] I't like bash or something right? [02:24] !language | chirrups [02:24] chirrups: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [02:25] Sorry bout' that [02:25] chirrups: yes, you could use bash [02:25] chirrups: start with manually formatting A drive using gdisk on the CLI (not the gdisk interface) [02:26] I mean there's not something that can take an input of a CSV file or something [02:26] chirrups: Once you got that scripted, then look at lsblk and figure out how to use awk/sed/grep/etc to pull out only the drives you're concerned with [02:26] https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-disk-scrubbing-program-for-cloud/ [02:26] there is [02:26] I could zero them with that [02:27] okay a thing I neglected to mention [02:27] I'm terminal [02:27] I installed multipathing [02:27] They're netapp shelves [02:27] I can only get the drivers for the HBA working in linux [02:27] So like I lsblk and I get ~1500 lines [02:28] I've got a list of the direct SDA's [02:28] Cleaned it up through putty logging [02:28] chirrups: you can also try #bash [02:28] I can throw a CSV at something, I could do a loop from A - B [02:28] I'm looing at bash right noe [02:28] chirrups: #bash, the IRC channel [02:29] ohohohoh Yeah I mean I just was hoping someone would be like "Bippity boppity boop I use xydjshf the BEST formatter just google it" [02:29] I can grind on a script tonight [02:29] For sure [02:30] like I get how scripting work ~in general~ [02:30] just don't know how to do anything with bash(or shell scripts as I'm learning) [02:30] try this [02:30] wipefs -a /dev/sda [02:31] ::hug:: [02:31] removes / deletes the partition table signature ... [02:31] legit can do the rest [02:31] yeah I this is exactly what I need [02:31] I can run with this [02:31] The rest from LVM up to SCSI\LVG whatever I can figure out [02:32] I just couldn't find an easy way to wipe these things ala quickformat in order to start [02:32] I imagine along my journey I'm going to get this shell script thing figured out [02:32] Thank you so much [02:53] is there a way to restrict packages to a certain user? [02:56] sudo chmod [02:57] or just use the ACL [02:59] check out setfacl command [03:00] granttrec: if the goal is to limit the command a certain user can run, the solution is to setup a chroot for them and to only make the minimal set of commands available to them there. === jhazelwood is now known as darktides [03:03] Well this is weird. 18.04, after a reboot my regular user is no longer a sudoer [03:04] I'm not opposed to booting into a recovery console and running visudo, but I have a hunch that's not gonna be easy with encrypted system disk [03:05] tomreyn: thanks, I am trying to be more orgranised with my development on my home pc, so I thought a seperate user for dev would be good, I especially want to make a distinction between the packages, is chroot still a good idea? [03:08] granttrec: use VMs or containers for this purpose. [03:17] Hi [03:19] myself: you just: adduser MYUSER sudo # ie. you add "MYUSER" or whichever user it it to the "sudo" group. [03:20] this group is predefined in sudoers, so you dont need to visudo. [04:07] i need to edit a resume photograph. I already used gimp, but I still have "cat eyes" (a dark contour under both of my eyes. Is there any program that is better than gimp to alter pictures? [04:08] !info krita | Guest92832 [04:08] Guest92832: krita (source: krita): pixel-based image manipulation program. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.0.1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 14507 kB, installed size 61116 kB [04:09] Guest92832: wich gimp version do you use? cause the new gimp features improved alot too [04:09] 2.8.22 [04:10] Guest92832: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/07/gimp-2-10-4-released-with-faster-start-times-auto-straighten-tool [04:10] wait [04:11] how do I dont have that version? should I install a ppa? [04:11] Guest92832: no, we dont support external ppa's here but you could try the snap version if you like? [04:12] Guest92832: gimp 2.10.0 snapcrafters === qwebirc25011 is now known as speedy01 [04:13] good evening/morning all [04:13] Guest92832: see also the #gimp & #krita channel [04:13] speedy01: good morning, how can we help you today? [04:13] anyone else having a problem running vmware player on 18.04? [04:14] ok, thanks! lotuspsychje [04:14] i thought i would check here, as googling hasn't turned up much [04:14] speedy01: to get the best support, its best specific issue to the channel, whats happening, details, etc so volunteers can try to help [04:14] *to ask [04:15] im very new to linux...so I'll start there! I'm trying to run vmware play on a fairly fresh install of ubuntu 18.04. downloaded and install all the dependancies..and followed vmware install guide... [04:16] problem is, the application doesn't save any of my preference, nor load any vm I try to create. I downloaded and install the trial of workstation...and it seems to work as it should... [04:16] speedy01: we dont really support external ppa's, best to contact the maintainer, or install packages from the official ubuntu repos [04:16] speedy01: alternate to vmware, you could try 'virtualbox' [04:16] sounds mostlylike an issue with vmware..but wanted to ask if anyone had the same problem before going down the rabbit hole of vmware support [04:17] speedy01: there is also a #vmware channel if you like [04:18] lotuspsychje: yes..that will probably be my next try...im just familar with vmware and wanted to give it a go...anyways..I'll jump over there and see what they have to say.. [04:19] speedy01: the reason why we dont advice external ppa's is because they can scramble your system and make a mess with dependecys [04:21] lotuspsychje: no worries...i totally understand! im sure I'll have more specific ubuntu quetsions as the days go on...this is my first go at linux as my primary desktop [04:21] i hated windows 10 so much, i decided it was time to try something different [04:21] speedy01: then i welcome you to the ubuntu community! [04:22] thank you...it has not been an easy road! lol i had a problem with the installer not liking my hardware...which seemed to be a pretty common issue with it... [04:23] speedy01: feel free to use #ubuntu to ask your ubuntu questions in the future :p [04:25] lotuspsychje: i have...you have a someone in here (tomreyn i think) who was very helpful a few days ago [04:25] thanks for the feedback speedy01 [04:25] !cookie | tomreyn [04:25] tomreyn: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [04:26] hi all, pls at the pc's shutdown it appears some lines, i noticed several error lines which don't appear before... but i have no time to read, because in few seconds pc shutdown. Where may i find those logs? [04:27] jk^: syslog & dmesg mostly hold usefull errors on your system [04:27] im off to bed...thanks again. [04:28] jk^: another way, is to press F1 at your shutdown process, to actually read the lines(if it doesnt get too fast aswell) === PoisonedSlice is now known as Poisoned_Slice === Poisoned_Slice is now known as PoisonedSlice [04:31] https://pastebin.com/raw/1pSZ6nrQ [04:32] jk^: do you recognize some errors you have noticed on shutdown? [04:34] i remember just yellow and red error's color... however there are too many lines in these logs [04:34] https://pastebin.com/raw/TmhpddKB [04:35] lotuspsychje [04:35] https://pastebin.com/raw/qPjx1rTM [04:36] jk^: well its bit hard for us to guess, what you did to your system exactly..does these errors slowdown your shutdown process? [04:37] no.... [04:37] they doesn't [04:37] they don't [04:38] jk^: so why do these errors annoy you exactly? [04:38] however i see an error that talk about "DAEMON" (I don't know what it's) [04:39] i see it in active operating system [04:39] there is a message in task bar [04:39] jk^: a deamon is like a service at startup, did you install new programs that could have added to your shutdown text? [04:39] mmmmhhh... i guess it's correct... "task bar", no, excuse me... tray bar [04:40] "It occurs an error while updating" [04:40] jk^: what is your actual problem exactly? [04:41] if i click on that "error icon" in tray bar, after i click on "Verify updates"... it returns me "Impossibile monitorare o controllare le attività [04:41] La connessione al demone è stata persa. Probabilmente il demone in background è andato in crash." [04:41] "Connection to daemon is lost. Probably daemon in background is gone in crash" [04:41] (Approximate translation" [04:41] ) [04:41] Approximative [04:42] jk^: have you installed external ppa's perhaps that blocked your update process? [04:42] Excuse me, for my english, i hope u understand the meaning [04:42] no.... [04:42] !it | jk^ see also [04:42] jk^ see also: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [04:43] recently, i just try to set password at startup... and change account type from "Custom" to "Administrator" because i'm the only user of this pc.... then i guessed, it's more useful to set directly my account to administrator account [04:43] in the same window, i choose to "Ask me password" at the startup [04:43] these are the only changes i've done [04:43] jk^: you did not install new software? [04:44] no, lotuspsychje i didn't... [04:44] jk^: can you make a screenshot of what you see? [04:44] jk^: wich ubuntu version is this anyway? [04:45] anyone can help me? i am having problem installing full gnome desktop on ubuntu 18.04 [04:45] the command sudo apt install tasksel taking forever to finish [04:46] after i tried to set password at startup but preferences "Users and groups"... I reboot, but it don't ask me password... then someone in a support channel told me to add 2 "#" at the last 2 lines in this file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [04:46] lubuntu 16.04.4 [04:47] the rest of the previous message i translated "It seems that the daemon died." [04:47] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TliwPVGaChsvvU-NtfYX3N9YlqLghG52/view?usp=sharing [04:47] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bAzhdpti-YlqijBqrw0CQC-sfzDOsZG8/view?usp=sharing [04:48] after those problems, i change again the file by: sudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [04:48] and remove the 2 "# [04:48] lotuspsychje [04:49] jk^: you are mixing multiple facts togheter i think... [04:49] jk^: can you screenshot the deamon & update problem plz? [04:50] qwebirc71632: are you clean installing ubuntu 18.04? [04:50] yes. cleaned installed on a VM [04:51] installation and network config is done. i can log-in and now wanted to install gnome desktop [04:52] qwebirc71632: gnome is already default on 18.04, why are you installing gnome? [04:53] i didn't know gnome is default, neither i can see how to activate desktop. i wanted to have full graphical desktop as default desktop when server is booted-up [04:53] qwebirc71632: your on ubuntu 18.04 server? [04:53] yes [04:54] qwebirc71632: ah, best to mention details like that, see #ubuntu-server please [04:54] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w_SPXzY3WDHKCkXF9-5TaC_XuBRfMX-o/view?usp=sharing [04:54] lotuspsychje [04:54] qwebirc71632: by default ubuntu server has no GUI [04:54] hmm. ok thanks for the info [04:54] yes, right. thats the reason i was trying to get gnome [04:55] it appears if i click on error icon in tray bar (bottom right of screen) and after click on "Verify updates" [04:55] jk^: can you try this from a terminal: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [04:57] sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [04:57] all in the same line? [04:58] jk^: yes, and then hastebin us the output [05:01] it asks me "After this operation they have be occupied 162 kb on drive" Yes or Not? [05:01] lotuspsychje ? [05:01] jk^: yes [05:02] ok [05:02] hey, i recently installed ubuntu and i'm trying to switch the desktop envronment [05:03] i've apt install xfce4 no problem [05:03] im having trouble getting my built in webcam to work. cheese or skype does not detect. dmesg shows the camera as usb 3-3. any ideas? [05:03] pls may u tell me, what that command it's doing to? [05:03] lotuspsychje [05:03] but when i log out there's no way to select it [05:03] jk^: its updating apt and updating your system [05:03] apt? [05:04] hi guys, i've installed a new SSD and installed Xubuntu on it, my old HDD with a faulty distro upgrade keeps booting first instead of the ssd, should i remove the boot flag of the hdd? [05:04] jk^: yes, the package tool [05:05] does it take many minutes? [05:05] jk^: depends how long you did not update.. [05:06] is ext4 just as accessible as fat 32? [05:06] jk^: im on breakfast first, after update, reboot please [05:06] i have set "automatic updates". I often get notices for updates, and i regularly do all of that [05:06] ok... i have to go too... see u soon [05:06] Hello friends, I was here earlier about needing help installing Ubuntu. Currently I am able to boot into the live cd, but after 3 seconds my ability to click mouse buttons, or type is completely gone. However my ability to move my mouse still works. I was recommended to try and attempt an install using an external keyboard and mouse, however these devices also do not work. I am trying to install this on a lenovo y530 [05:07] Also I should mention it is the new Y530, and not the one released a couple years back. [05:09] if i delete the boot partition with flags on my old hdd, will it stop booting, and use the ssd? === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [05:18] hey i restarted, sorry [05:19] anyways im still having a weird issue where xfce is installed but doesn't eem to be.. doing anything [05:22] bropro, logout, click your username, password and change desktop wheel should appear [05:22] it doesn't appear until you enter your password? [05:23] yes, it is not visible, and should be on the top panel too [05:24] ugly design, i know [05:24] https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k4jsFEm8cS8/WpH8vXNhZOI/AAAAAAAANeo/O0X1lVaAow8BJF2dW7uoriWfYSzqLHrgACLcBGAs/s1600/communitheme-login.png [05:29] hmm [05:29] i'm at the login screen and have typed in my password but still no wheel [05:29] not sure if theres' any way to take a screenshot [05:30] lotuspsychje https://pastebin.com/raw/8CzQeqMV === bittin_ is now known as luna [05:51] hello [05:54] ok, this is silly, but i literally reinstalled ubuntu and then did apt install xfce4 and now it works lol [06:17] I use ProxyJump on a lot of host. Is it possible to have ssh resolve DNS via the proxyjump aswell? [06:28] lotuspsychje https://pastebin.com/raw/8CzQeqMV [06:33] lotuspsychje i tried to find the logs that contain the lines which appear at shutdown, i just read something like "depending" (in yellow) but i can't find logs whics contain that [06:33] i searched in the "Content file"'s text box === edb is now known as handlebar [06:53] good afternoon, is this the best way to upgrade ubuntu server? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html.en [06:57] masber, yes, but do read the releasenotes [06:57] !releasenotes [06:57] Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes [07:09] why am I getting this message? Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found. [07:10] I am running 16.04 [07:11] mmm... release ntos says Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after 18.04.1's release expected in late July. Does it means I can't upgrade just yet? [07:11] why is that? [07:11] go into the menu updates, set it to LTS, and run updates again [07:12] oh wait, yes, 18.04.1 triggers he upgrade, first bugs are fixed [07:12] this will happen in august, [07:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule [07:14] oerheks: I don't understand why I can't upgrade to 18.04 [07:14] the docs does not give any reason [07:15] masber: you can force the upgrade if you want to. It won't become available by default until the .1 release. [07:16] it is LTS, and we guarantee it is stable [07:16] so that is why 18..04.1 triggers the upgrade [07:18] oerheks: ok, so you are saying that 18.04.1 is stable but 18.04 isn't is that right? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [07:19] masber: 18.04 isn't "unstable". Everything is relative. [07:20] masber: waiting for 18.04.1 is considered a sensible extra step for some extra stability. [07:20] hi all, what is ubuntu 18.04 installer dialogue? does it have any python wrappers? [07:21] ok, so how can I force the upgrade? [07:21] masber: pass the -d flag to do-release-upgrade. [07:21] errr no [07:21] -d is a development version [07:21] -d flag is development [07:22] Right now, doing that upgardes to bionic. [07:22] you shouldn't use -d unless you understand it [07:22] I just did that, two days ago. [07:22] yes Idon't want to use development [07:22] whaat about -p? [07:22] it says proposed [07:22] Using -d on a 16.04 system causes an upgrade to bionic. [07:22] confluency: do you know that today ? [07:23] I know that happened literally two days ago when I did it. [07:23] confluency: two days ago is not today [07:23] cosmic has moved on -d can take you to cosmic [07:23] so again -d shouldn't be use unless you WANT a development version [07:23] and again - only if you know what you are doing [07:23] please don't suggest -d [07:26] ikonia, is there anything I can do to upgrade my 16.04 to a supported version? [07:26] masber: 16.04 *is* supported. [07:27] masber: 16.04 is still in support as confluency states, the official upgrade process starts at 18.04.1 as with the other releases. [07:27] I think there is a note about it on the upgrade page that normally states the .1 release is the trigger [07:28] ah ok, I see [07:28] so they release the XX.04 LTS first and then the XX.04.1 with the fixes and that is the official one people should upgrade === ChipMonk is now known as ChipM0nk [07:28] The official dicumentation has instructions to use -d on an LTS system to force the LTS-to-LTS upgrade early: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html [07:28] so XX.04.1 is more stable [07:29] This is consistent with multiple other sources that I've found. [07:29] If this is incorrect, is there a more detailed source of information describing the behaviour of -d on an LTS and non-LTS system? [07:30] it's not incorrect, it will technically work as long as the development version has not been flagged as available [07:30] hence why it should not be blindly used [07:30] I wasn't suggesting using it "blindly"; it is my understanding that until the .1 release using it will cause an upgrade to 18.04. [07:31] masber: .1 allows enough time for all the upgrade testing and fixes to be in for a stable upgrade for the majority [07:31] confluency: it's not always until the .1 release [07:31] Is there documentation explaining what determines this? [07:31] confluency: it's a meta tag in the release file [07:32] what triggers the change in that meta tag, I don't know === deerbard is now known as Guest48098 === Guest48098 is now known as deerbard === schubskiesel_ is now known as schubskiesel [08:20] !ltsupgrade | masber [08:20] masber: Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. [08:23] " to force the LTS-to-LTS upgrade early"... don't do -d, as Cosmic 18.10 is in development [08:32] Anyone using Dante? === BrAsS_mO- is now known as BrAsS_mOnKeY [08:52] So I've noticed an annoying behavior of 16.04 LTS's default install: If you installed with full disk encryption, it installs security updates daily but never autoremoves, so /boot will fill up eventually [08:53] (a matter of like a few weeks to 2-3 months in my experience so far) [08:53] Is there a box I can check that makes it remove old kernels or do I just need to make a root cron job to run apt -y autoremove? [08:53] you can enable autoremove in apt unattended-upgrades [08:54] Hmm, no gui option for it though? [08:55]