| xubuntu75i | hi | 06:20 |
|---|---|---|
| diogenes_ | hi | 06:20 |
| xubuntu50w | How do you boot Xubuntu 18.04 into a model server by using test based install | 07:08 |
| xubuntu50w | Urgent | 07:08 |
| pmjdebru1jn | "model server" ? | 07:09 |
| pmjdebru1jn | "test based install" | 07:09 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: you're using a lot of odd terminology | 07:10 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: please do elaborate | 07:10 |
| pmjdebru1jn | oh 'text based' | 07:10 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: why would you want to install xubuntu using a text based install on a server | 07:10 |
| pmjdebru1jn | if you want to install a server (without a GUI) install regular ubuntu | 07:10 |
| pmjdebru1jn | the only difference xubuntu has with plain ubuntu is the GUI | 07:11 |
| pmjdebru1jn | and if you're not going to use it, there essentially no practical difference | 07:11 |
| pmjdebru1jn | this is why no server install ISOs for xubuntu are offered, as it would be rather redundant | 07:11 |
| xubuntu50w | ya text based | 07:15 |
| xubuntu50w | because i save my xubuntu 18.04 in pendirve | 07:15 |
| xubuntu50w | pendrive | 07:15 |
| xubuntu50w | when i put on HPE proliant ml10 gen 9 | 07:16 |
| xubuntu50w | i select "install Xubuntu" | 07:16 |
| xubuntu50w | my monitor turn into black screen | 07:16 |
| xubuntu50w | but the monitor lights still blinking | 07:16 |
| xubuntu50w | They told me to try text based install | 07:17 |
| xubuntu50w | but how do I do it | 07:17 |
| pmjdebru1jn | for I server I suggest you download the regular ubuntu installer | 07:18 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server | 07:18 |
| xubuntu50w | why? | 07:18 |
| pmjdebru1jn | since that has a text based installer | 07:19 |
| xubuntu50w | Xubuntu don't have text based installer? | 07:19 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: why would it | 07:19 |
| pmjdebru1jn | if the GUI installer doesn't work, you're also going to have running the regular GUI as well | 07:19 |
| pmjdebru1jn | as it's essentially the same thing | 07:19 |
| pmjdebru1jn | but even from the regular ubuntu server install, you can install the gui afterward | 07:20 |
| pmjdebru1jn | sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (if i recall correctly) | 07:20 |
| xubuntu50w | But how do I install ubuntu by text based install | 07:21 |
| pmjdebru1jn | download the server iso | 07:21 |
| pmjdebru1jn | I linked to it just now | 07:21 |
| xubuntu50w | after that? | 07:22 |
| nomenon | or the mini.iso | 07:23 |
| nomenon | boot it, hit enter on command line installer | 07:23 |
| xubuntu50w | so should i download the minimal ubuntu? | 07:24 |
| xubuntu50w | or the ubuntu 18.04 | 07:24 |
| pmjdebru1jn | the server install should be fine | 07:24 |
| pmjdebru1jn | nomenon: whats' the difference with teh mini iso? | 07:24 |
| nomenon | its very small, it downloads what you choose to install while it is installing | 07:25 |
| pmjdebru1jn | oh | 07:25 |
| nomenon | you can make it install all the ubuntustuffs | 07:25 |
| xubuntu50w | so which one should i download? | 07:25 |
| nomenon | mini.iso > select text based installer on first or second screen | 07:25 |
| nomenon | eventually it will give you a choice to install ubuntu tasks | 07:26 |
| xubuntu50w | can u give me the link? | 07:26 |
| nomenon | select what tasks you want, such as a server install, Ubuntu full desktop, xubuntu-core, xubuntu full | 07:26 |
| xubuntu50w | just wan to confirm | 07:26 |
| xubuntu50w | Xubuntu can't install by text based | 07:26 |
| xubuntu50w | but Ubuntu can? | 07:27 |
| pmjdebru1jn | as i said there little point to it | 07:27 |
| nomenon | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 07:27 |
| nomenon | they all can | 07:27 |
| pmjdebru1jn | and again, if the installer is having issue, there's a good chance you'll have issues after doing a text based install as well | 07:27 |
| nomenon | you have to select the right mini.iso for your hardware | 07:27 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: the bigger question is, why would you want xubuntu on a proliant? | 07:27 |
| pmjdebru1jn | I'm aware it's a bit offtopic | 07:27 |
| xubuntu50w | I'm in a small software company | 07:28 |
| xubuntu50w | and my owner ask me to download xubutu | 07:28 |
| xubuntu50w | xubuntu | 07:28 |
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| nomenon | virtualbox and mini.iso with some time just trying things might help you alot | 07:29 |
| xubuntu50w | how do i know which one is the right mini.iso for my hardware | 07:29 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: then the question is, why would he want to gui on the server? | 07:29 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: typically it doesn't have any real use | 07:29 |
| nomenon | xubuntu50w, you learn what your hardware architecture is and download the corresponding iso | 07:29 |
| pmjdebru1jn | obviously I don't know your use case etc | 07:29 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu50w: you may want to discuss with your business owner what goals he wants to achieve, and make decision based on that going forward | 07:30 |
| nomenon | xubuntu50w, if you do not know your own basic hardware types you should not be installing anything in a work env | 07:30 |
| xubuntu50w | so basically I'm doing an internship at a company and my boss require me to use xubuntu | 07:30 |
| xubuntu50w | I don | 07:31 |
| xubuntu50w | I don't think i have a choice sorry | 07:31 |
| pmjdebru1jn | are you sure that's literally that's what they meant? | 07:31 |
| xubuntu50w | can u also share the mini iso for Xubuntu? | 07:31 |
| pmjdebru1jn | as it's a very odd requirement | 07:31 |
| xubuntu50w | He asked me to install Xubuntu 18.04 | 07:32 |
| xubuntu50w | and setup LTSP | 07:32 |
| nomenon | xubuntu50w, I did, mini.iso is a minimal iso that lets you choose what you install as you install it, it will let you install all the ubuntutdudududtuus | 07:32 |
| pmjdebru1jn | aaaah LTSP | 07:32 |
| pmjdebru1jn | so the main goal IS the GUI | 07:32 |
| pmjdebru1jn | that explains a little | 07:32 |
| xubuntu50w | so when i download the mini.iso | 07:33 |
| xubuntu50w | i use the command line install right | 07:34 |
| xubuntu50w | but how do i change to xubuntu | 07:34 |
| pmjdebru1jn | as nomenon said, you can select xubuntu as a task during the install | 07:34 |
| xubuntu50w | is it? | 07:35 |
| xubuntu50w | ok i will try first | 07:35 |
| pmjdebru1jn | be sure to also install openssh during the install, so you can connect to the machien if you screen goes black again | 07:35 |
| xubuntu50w | is there any guide for it? | 07:35 |
| pmjdebru1jn | no clue | 07:35 |
| nomenon | xubuntu50w, all over the internet | 07:35 |
| pmjdebru1jn | it's fairly trivial | 07:35 |
| xubuntu50w | okok i will try | 07:37 |
| nomenon | :) | 07:38 |
| xubuntu64w | should I click command line installer or install | 07:44 |
| pmjdebru1jn | presumably it would take you only a few minites to try either option :) | 07:45 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu64w: if you're uncomfortable with the install at all, I highly suggest running it in VMware/KVM/whatever first | 07:45 |
| xubuntu64w | can u send me the link for mini.iso again? | 07:49 |
| xubuntu64w | because i select my pendrive, the machine doesn't react | 07:49 |
| pmjdebru1jn | xubuntu64w: i'm sure you can find it using google | 07:49 |
| xubuntu64w | but why when i select it on my machine | 07:50 |
| xubuntu64w | it doesn't show anything | 07:50 |
| pmjdebru1jn | "select it on your machine" | 07:52 |
| pmjdebru1jn | please elaborate exactly what you're doing | 07:52 |
| nomenon | he put it on his thumb drive >:D | 07:54 |
| xubuntu64w | I insert my pendrive to my machine | 07:54 |
| xubuntu64w | It came out some options | 07:54 |
| xubuntu64w | i choose BIOS | 07:54 |
| xubuntu64w | and select the pendrive as 1st option in the boot | 07:54 |
| xubuntu64w | after that i select my pendrive | 07:55 |
| xubuntu64w | it doesn't react | 07:55 |
| xubuntu64w | What should I do | 07:55 |
| xubuntu64w | is that because the bit for mini.iso is different | 07:55 |
| pmjdebru1jn | sound like a isolinux issue | 07:55 |
| pmjdebru1jn | how did you put the iso on your pendrive? | 07:55 |
| xubuntu64w | use universal USB installer | 07:56 |
| pmjdebru1jn | https://etcher.io/ try that | 07:56 |
| xubuntu64w | thanks | 07:57 |
| pmjdebru1jn | "universal usb installer" seems to try to be clever, which isn't always a good thing | 07:57 |
| xubuntu64w | can we use other social apps to chat? | 07:58 |
| pmjdebru1jn | no | 07:58 |
| xubuntu64w | So that i can show you pictures | 07:58 |
| pmjdebru1jn | there's many image sharing services you can use for that | 07:59 |
| pmjdebru1jn | and just paste a link here | 07:59 |
| xubuntu64w | ok | 07:59 |
| xubuntu64w | i cant use the mini.iso | 08:14 |
| xubuntu64w | is that because it is not 64 bit | 08:15 |
| pmjdebru1jn | "cant" | 08:15 |
| pmjdebru1jn | what does that mean | 08:15 |
| pmjdebru1jn | please clearly specify what you mean | 08:15 |
| pmjdebru1jn | we're not psychic | 08:15 |
| Leifie | Hi, anyone here? Good to see you guys. I've got a problem w/ Xubuntu 18.04 installation on MSI GV62, so if anyone have a minute it will be great. I cannot find straight solution or i looking bad. Who knows? :D | 10:07 |
| Spass | hello Leifie, what's the problem exactly? | 10:30 |
| Leifie | Hi Spass, in general i found there MSI do not like OS another then Windows. Thank you MSI, but to the topic. I'd install the OS, and after that i try to log the first time. And: | 10:31 |
| Leifie | 1. Freeze on password -> forced to restart | 10:32 |
| Leifie | 2. Freeze just after log -> again restard, took recovery, reboot 3. Freeze after log again. | 10:33 |
| Leifie | There is some issue with packege (dspkginit) i use to try solve, but with another reboot nothing change. | 10:35 |
| Spass | your laptop has NVIDIA or AMD GPU? | 10:39 |
| Leifie | Nvidia (gf GTX1050) | 10:40 |
| Leifie | It can be problem with nvidia drivers install with OS installtion? | 10:41 |
| Spass | did you install anything on that system or is it a fresh install that just doesn't want to work? | 10:42 |
| Leifie | It's fresh install on new platform. | 10:43 |
| Spass | ok, so when you're on the login screen press Ctrl+Alt+F2, log in, and install NVIDIA drivers using "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt install nvidia-384" | 10:44 |
| Leifie | Alright! :) | 10:45 |
| Leifie | Ooook Spass, i'd like you recommended. It all goes right until 94% i hope it's not stupid question, but drivers installation stopped at this moment, on "writing new private key to /var/lib/shim-signed/mok/mok.priv" should i do something or just wait a little longer? | 11:01 |
| Spass | hmm, it's some kind of bug, I see some other person had that issue on his machine, waiting will probably not help here - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1042805/installing-nvidia-driver-396-on-ubuntu-18-04 | 11:04 |
| Spass | you can make sure that you have Secure Boot disabled in the BIOS (not sure if it's important, but this is recommended by that person) | 11:05 |
| Spass | and you can always reboot and try again, maybe it's a random issue | 11:07 |
| Leifie | Hmm, oki doki. I'll try. | 11:08 |
| Spass | oh, there's a solution here - https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1036167/stuck-trying-to-intall-nvidia-390-ubuntu-18-04-lts-/ | 11:08 |
| Spass | when you get that "error" try to enter your password two times | 11:08 |
| Spass | "Try to enter a password twice blindly." | 11:08 |
| Spass | so password Enter, password Enter | 11:08 |
| Spass | root password of course | 11:08 |
| Spass | other options - "Helped, entered password 4 times and its worked." lol | 11:09 |
| Spass | and - "The posted solution of typing the password blindly did not work for me. What worked was pressing ESC four times." | 11:09 |
| Leifie | Ha! I should be smart enough to looking for solution on Nvidia forums :D | 11:10 |
| Leifie | lol | 11:10 |
| Leifie | maybe I just need to do something on your keyboard :D like pro haxior in movies :D It's always work then! | 11:10 |
| Spass | so 1) disable secure boot in the bios 2) try above solutions if 1 didn't help | 11:10 |
| Leifie | Ok, but i already forced laptop to reboot so let's do it as you say :D | 11:11 |
| Leifie | on my keyboard* | 11:12 |
| Spass | yeah, leave my keyboard alone ;) | 11:13 |
| Leifie | Haha :D | 11:13 |
| Spass | it has got enough haxoring from my noob fingers | 11:13 |
| Leifie | story of my life... | 11:16 |
| Leifie | :D | 11:17 |
| Leifie | lol i'm done. | 11:19 |
| Leifie | it freeze when i recovere do not ended instalation after reboot, so i put password 4 times... | 11:19 |
| Leifie | Yeah. It's working. | 11:19 |
| Leifie | :D | 11:19 |
| Spass | ok, one small step forward | 11:20 |
| Leifie | Oki doki Spass i am rly greatful for your support it looks like... Fixed. Everything after logged what should work - work, so i cen move to next step in configuration. | 11:25 |
| Leifie | Thx, man once again! :) | 11:25 |
| Spass | it works already? cool. I was expecting some more issues going further :) no problem man, have fun configuring that beast | 11:26 |
| xubuntu81w | Hi there! | 11:52 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu81w, hi! | 11:52 |
| xubuntu81w | I'd like to ask for help with a little issue on my system, if possible. | 11:53 |
| diogenes_ | !ask | xubuntu81w | 11:53 |
| ubottu | xubuntu81w: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 11:53 |
| xubuntu81w | !patience | 11:53 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 11:53 |
| diogenes_ | lol | 11:54 |
| xubuntu81w | Xubuntu boots slowly. It takes between 1 and 2 minutes. | 11:54 |
| xubuntu81w | And it is installed in a SSD. | 11:54 |
| Spass | xubuntu81w, yeah, I've seen many topics on forums about that issue with 18.04 recently, are you using Intel graphics? | 11:55 |
| xubuntu81w | Oh yes, it is a refurbished laptop, a Dell Latitude E6330. | 11:56 |
| Spass | your option is to boot from an older kernel or adding to your GRUB config file this "video=SVIDEO-1:d" | 11:57 |
| Spass | I can tell you where exactly | 11:57 |
| xubuntu81w | I need to do that while in the GRUB menu, right? | 11:58 |
| Spass | not really, you can do it from your system | 11:58 |
| xubuntu81w | That'd be great, but where can I find the conf file? | 11:59 |
| Spass | edit as root this file /etc/default/grub | 11:59 |
| Spass | so "sudo mousepad /etc/default/grub" for example | 11:59 |
| Spass | there should be that line somewhere there - "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" | 11:59 |
| Spass | change it to - "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash video=SVIDEO-1:d" | 12:00 |
| Spass | so just add "video=SVIDEO-1:d" at the end | 12:00 |
| Spass | save that file | 12:01 |
| xubuntu81w | What will this do btw? I'm curious. | 12:01 |
| Spass | and in your terminal run "sudo update-grub" then reboot, that should fix it | 12:01 |
| xubuntu81w | Done. | 12:02 |
| Spass | no idea what it does exactly, but it helped many people ;) | 12:02 |
| xubuntu81w | I see. I'll try that. | 12:03 |
| xubuntu81w | Brb. | 12:03 |
| Spass | and you can always change it later deleting that and updating your grub again | 12:03 |
| Spass | ok, let us know | 12:03 |
| xubuntu06w | Well, that definitely did a dent on the boot time, but it's still taking a while. | 12:05 |
| xubuntu06w | I wonder if there is something else in the way... | 12:05 |
| Spass | that's the only solution I know other than booting from an slightly older kernel | 12:06 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu06w, run: systemd-analyze blame | nc termbin.com 9999 | 12:06 |
| diogenes_ | share the link here | 12:06 |
| Spass | I don't have that issue on my systems (NVIDIA), so I didn't investigate further | 12:07 |
| xubuntu73w | Yo Guys | 12:08 |
| xubuntu73w | Im currently trying to use autologin on my xubuntu desktop PC | 12:08 |
| xubuntu73w | but with the autologin trick using LIGHTDM its takes 30/40 more seconds to boot, i've already set the autotime logout on 0 sec but it still takes way longer than before | 12:09 |
| xubuntu06w | There: http://termbin.com/kah7 | 12:09 |
| xubuntu73w | I've read and tried googling but i didn't come to an solution | 12:09 |
| xubuntu73w | the boot time now is 80 seconds | 12:09 |
| xubuntu73w | dmesg is 25 seconds , so for some reason i got wrong on lightdm i think | 12:10 |
| xubuntu73w | Any suggestions? | 12:10 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu73w, run this too: ls $HOME/.config/autostart | nc termbin.com 9999 | 12:10 |
| Spass | hello xubuntu73w, and when you disable autologin it boots faster again? | 12:11 |
| xubuntu73w | Yes | 12:11 |
| xubuntu73w | but for some reason i think the autologin process is taking more time | 12:11 |
| xubuntu73w | gonna run that command | 12:11 |
| Spass | xubuntu06w, out of curiosity, do you have autologin enabled too? | 12:12 |
| Spass | maybe your issue is related | 12:12 |
| xubuntu06w | What's autologin? | 12:12 |
| Spass | do you have to enter your user password on system start? | 12:13 |
| xubuntu06w | Sorry, I've only dabbled in Linux for a short while compared to WZ. | 12:13 |
| xubuntu73w | diogenes, ran the command in sudo mode as administrator, cannot acces '/root/.config/autostart': no such file or directory | 12:13 |
| xubuntu06w | I do. | 12:13 |
| Spass | ok, so not related | 12:13 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu06w, ls $HOME/.config/autostart | nc termbin.com 9999 | 12:13 |
| diogenes_ | no root | 12:14 |
| diogenes_ | no sudo | 12:14 |
| xubuntu06w | Doesn't exist. | 12:14 |
| diogenes_ | doesn't exist what? | 12:15 |
| xubuntu06w | The directory. | 12:15 |
| diogenes_ | ok open settings > session and startup > application autostart | 12:15 |
| diogenes_ | see what is ticked for startup | 12:15 |
| Spass | diogenes_, you pinged wring xubuntuXXX ;) | 12:17 |
| Spass | wrong* | 12:17 |
| diogenes_ | Spass, lol, i guess so, too many xubuntus XD | 12:17 |
| xubuntu06w | AT-SPI D-Bus Bus, Blueman Applet(Bluetooth), Evolution alarm(which I should have uninstalled), PolicyKit Authentication, Power Manager... | 12:18 |
| Spass | xubuntu06w, you're fine | 12:18 |
| Spass | that was directed to the other user | 12:18 |
| xubuntu06w | Oh, ack! Sorry. | 12:18 |
| diogenes_ | and there is no print quaue applet to startup? | 12:18 |
| xubuntu06w | There is, I didn't finish :D | 12:19 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu06w, try to disable it, also disable snap or even better remove it and then reboot again. | 12:19 |
| xubuntu06w | Alright. It won't auto-start, but I'll still be able to open it manually, right? | 12:20 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 12:21 |
| diogenes_ | also look for snap | 12:21 |
| xubuntu06w | Can't find anything named snap. | 12:21 |
| diogenes_ | ok try to reboot see if disabling the print from autostart changed anything | 12:21 |
| xubuntu06w | Alright. | 12:21 |
| * Spass purges snapd as fast as possible on 18.04 | 12:27 | |
| * diogenes_ purges it even faster alongside with thunderbird, pidgin, whoopsie, gnome-software and few others :) | 12:29 | |
| xubuntu91w | Nope, the boot time actually **increased**. I measured it with my Casio, from the GRUB screen to the login window it took 03:09 minutes. | 12:31 |
| xubuntu91w | It is strange, because the xubuntu screen appears first, but then it just sits there in a blackscreen. | 12:31 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu91w, is it a new fresh install? | 12:32 |
| xubuntu91w | This install is a month old, at worst, not even that. | 12:32 |
| Spass | hmm, so that "grub fix" doesn't really helped :/ | 12:32 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu91w, was it always this slow? | 12:32 |
| xubuntu91w | I cannot recall, a friend of mine realized :/. | 12:32 |
| xubuntu91w | As I said, I only owned this laptop for like less than a month. | 12:33 |
| Spass | you can try to boot from an older kernel in your grub menu | 12:33 |
| xubuntu73w | Did any of you ever created a own desktop environment with XUBUNTU as core? | 12:33 |
| xubuntu91w | No, it was a dual boot setup. | 12:34 |
| xubuntu91w | I made an image of windows and deleted the partition yesterday. | 12:34 |
| xubuntu91w | Wait a minute, there's something weird here. | 12:35 |
| xubuntu91w | In my partition list the swap partition doesn't show up. | 12:35 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu91w, one more thing you should check, go to bios, dard drive sata mode and notice whether it's AHCI or IDE | 12:35 |
| xubuntu91w | Damn, I didn't even take that in account. But why would the refurb guys set it to IDE? Those haven't been used for years! | 12:36 |
| xubuntu91w | Anyways, brb. | 12:36 |
| Spass | xubuntu91w, new Ubuntu installer doesn't create separate swap partition iirc, swapfile is the new default now | 12:38 |
| xubuntu11w | Back. | 12:42 |
| xubuntu11w | Heh, I should consider making an account on Freenode :/ | 12:42 |
| xubuntu11w | Anyways, AHCI is enabled. | 12:42 |
| Spass | xubuntu11w, not sure if you missed my last message - new Ubuntu installer doesn't create separate swap partition iirc, swapfile is the new default now | 12:43 |
| xubuntu11w | What do you mean? I'm a bit confused. | 12:43 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu11w, ok, 3 minutes boot time is very slow and what about windows boot time? | 12:43 |
| xubuntu11w | It was definitely faster. | 12:43 |
| diogenes_ | xubuntu11w, do you have to enter the password at boot time in order to login? or it logs in automatically? | 12:46 |
| Spass | xubuntu11w, you can always change your nick on IRC using command "/nick YOUR_NICK" | 12:46 |
| === xubuntu11w is now known as Y0ungst3r | ||
| Y0ungst3r | Better. | 12:47 |
| Y0ungst3r | Thanks. | 12:47 |
| Spass | and way less confusing :) np | 12:47 |
| Y0ungst3r | No, it's the Xubuntu login window. | 12:47 |
| diogenes_ | Y0ungst3r, so you need to enter the password each time you boot? | 12:50 |
| Y0ungst3r | Yes. But are you talking about the Xubuntu login window? | 12:51 |
| diogenes_ | Y0ungst3r, yes | 12:52 |
| Y0ungst3r | Yes, it is enabled. | 12:52 |
| diogenes_ | try got to menu > users and groups and change it to Password: Not asked for password | 12:53 |
| Y0ungst3r | Done, time to reboot. | 12:55 |
| === xubuntu48w is now known as Y0ungst3r | ||
| Y0ungst3r | Hmm, the login window still shows up, it just doesn't ask for a password. | 13:01 |
| diogenes_ | Y0ungst3r, you mean you still can see this: https://bluesabre.org/2018/03/03/lightdm-gtk-greeter-2-0-4-released/ | 13:02 |
| Y0ungst3r | Precisely. | 13:02 |
| diogenes_ | Y0ungst3r, then there is definitely something wrong with your installation because you shouldn't see that window at all and that's what causes the slow boot time. | 13:04 |
| diogenes_ | i'd conside a re-installation | 13:04 |
| diogenes_ | consider* | 13:04 |
| Y0ungst3r | I've made a backup of my /home folder. What should I do in order to set everything back to normal? | 13:05 |
| Y0ungst3r | When I re-install, that is. | 13:05 |
| diogenes_ | Y0ungst3r, if you've got a backup then it's all fine, do you have a separate /home partition? | 13:06 |
| Y0ungst3r | I don't think so. I went with the defaults. | 13:06 |
| diogenes_ | Y0ungst3r, run: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:07 |
| diogenes_ | share the link here | 13:07 |
| Y0ungst3r | Sorry, I'm not that well versed when it comes to Linux, I'll need a few more years. | 13:07 |
| Y0ungst3r | http://termbin.com/w8qm | 13:07 |
| diogenes_ | yep, no separate /home, then really make sure you've got a backup of your data because a re-installation with wipe everything off | 13:08 |
| Spass | to be honest I would wait with that reinstall, there's a big chance that you will have that slow boot issue after you'd upgrade your fresh install | 13:08 |
| Y0ungst3r | Alright. So you're saying it would be best to rearrange everything by hand? | 13:09 |
| Spass | and if you really want to enable autologin you could change some config files to do so | 13:09 |
| diogenes_ | i'd have done a re-installation loooog time ago if my pc was booting 3 minutes | 13:09 |
| diogenes_ | but ok, it's up to you. | 13:10 |
| Spass | right, but it seems that there's something wrong with the new update, many users have that issue | 13:10 |
| Spass | Y0ungst3r, is slow boot your only issue now or does your system have other problems? | 13:10 |
| Y0ungst3r | Well, there's one little thing, but I think it is more related to the laptop. | 13:11 |
| Y0ungst3r | The fan turns on for brief periods of time, then shuts off again. | 13:11 |
| Y0ungst3r | That happens sometimes, especially when I'm using Firefox. Don't ask me why ._. | 13:12 |
| Y0ungst3r | But as I said, it is a refurb. Wouldn't be surprised it is was related to hardware. | 13:12 |
| Spass | well, fan profile is usually controlled by the bios, I don;t know any way to change it | 13:13 |
| diogenes_ | in some bios there is an option, fans always on enable/disable | 13:13 |
| Y0ungst3r | Either way, I don't think it is related to Linux. From what I know, Dell support is ok on Linux. | 13:14 |
| Spass | anyway, did you try to boot using another kernel from the grub menu? that's the last thing you can test | 13:14 |
| Spass | if you can't see grub at startup, hold Shift | 13:14 |
| Y0ungst3r | Nope, GRUB is still there. | 13:15 |
| Y0ungst3r | How do I use another kernel? | 13:15 |
| Spass | well assuming that you have some older kernels, they should be visible somewhere on that list | 13:15 |
| Y0ungst3r | Alright, brb. | 13:16 |
| xubuntu08w | Done. | 13:20 |
| xubuntu08w | Looks like the other acc is still logged in. | 13:21 |
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| Y0ungst3r | Anyways, I went in Ubuntu Advanced Options and selected the older kernel. And it booted instantly! | 13:21 |
| Y0ungst3r | So it's definitely related to the newer kernel. | 13:21 |
| Spass | yeah, that's why I think reinstall is a bad idea now | 13:22 |
| Spass | you would upgrade and have the same issue, probably | 13:22 |
| Y0ungst3r | You have a point. Until there's a kernel update it will be no good. | 13:22 |
| Spass | I think it's a temporary bug and will be fixed soon | 13:22 |
| Y0ungst3r | Anyways, how can I set the older kernel as a default? | 13:22 |
| Spass | good question, I've never done it myself, but I think of some options - removing the new kernel, or editing the GRUB with something like GRUB customizer (GUI tool) | 13:25 |
| diogenes_ | Y0ungst3r, grub customizer might help | 13:26 |
| Y0ungst3r | I'll check it out. | 13:26 |
| Y0ungst3r | Brb. | 13:29 |
| Y0ungst3r | I just updated it with the GRUB customizer. | 13:29 |
| Spass | also, since it didn't help, that "video=SVIDEO-1:d" entry can be removed now from the /etc/default/grub | 13:30 |
| xubuntu47w | I do not use Firefox, how may I remove the firefox-locale files? | 13:31 |
| Spass | sudo apt purge firefox-locale* | 13:32 |
| xubuntu47w | Thank you | 13:33 |
| Spass | np | 13:33 |
| Y0ungst3r | Man, you guys rock! | 13:42 |
| Y0ungst3r | I just did some arrangements with the GRUB customizer and now the boot time went from 03:09 to 00:12 from the BIOS screen to the login. | 13:42 |
| Spass | Y0ungst3r, you should observe new system upgrades for something like linux-image-4.15.xxx-generic | 13:48 |
| Spass | new kernel will hopefully fix those boot time issues | 13:48 |
| Y0ungst3r | You mean in the system updates? | 13:49 |
| Spass | yes, but the kernel will probably be installed in the background, as a security update | 13:49 |
| Y0ungst3r | Alright, I'll keep that in mind. | 13:50 |
| Spass | anyway, it's kinda sad that this bug is present in the LTS release, clearly that kernel version should be tested more | 13:50 |
| Y0ungst3r | There's something I'm thinking about. Do any of you work in Linux systems for a living? | 13:50 |
| Spass | nah, just an end-user with some time to spare on IRC | 13:51 |
| Y0ungst3r | Heh, sometimes I wish I did jump ship earlier. I admit the Terminal is still a bit daunting to me, but it is a very consistent and uniform system. | 13:53 |
| Spass | Linux makes you learn things, it's a system for tinkers, and the community is super-awesome (most of the times) | 13:57 |
| Y0ungst3r | My experiences with the community have been mostly positive. Sometimes I get angry with the problems I encounter(not in this instance), but I don't take it out on others. | 13:58 |
| Y0ungst3r | It's a very different philosophy. | 13:58 |
| Spass | we all get angry sometimes, bugs happens, sometimes they're annoying | 14:00 |
| Spass | or break something that used to work perfectly | 14:00 |
| Spass | but I have great respect for all the people behind any FOSS project, I've met some amazingly knowledgeable people in past years | 14:07 |
| Jedee2011 | hi guys, after much trying and reading, i've decided to reinstall xubuntu, i've saved all my data with help from the usb live image, and as of this early morning running like a charm again also on my ssd | 14:15 |
| Jedee2011 | my old HDD is now backup, only i want to know how i can delete the old install files so the boot is up to speed | 14:15 |
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