[06:20] <xubuntu75i> hi
[06:20] <diogenes_> hi
[07:08] <xubuntu50w> How do you boot Xubuntu 18.04 into a model server by using test based install
[07:08] <xubuntu50w> Urgent
[07:09] <pmjdebru1jn> "model server" ?
[07:09] <pmjdebru1jn> "test based install"
[07:10] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: you're using a lot of odd terminology
[07:10] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: please do elaborate
[07:10] <pmjdebru1jn> oh 'text based'
[07:10] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: why would you want to install xubuntu using a text based install on a server
[07:10] <pmjdebru1jn> if you want to install a server (without a GUI) install regular ubuntu
[07:11] <pmjdebru1jn> the only difference xubuntu has with plain ubuntu is the GUI
[07:11] <pmjdebru1jn> and if you're not going to use it, there essentially no practical difference
[07:11] <pmjdebru1jn> this is why no server install ISOs for xubuntu are offered, as it would be rather redundant
[07:15] <xubuntu50w> ya text based
[07:15] <xubuntu50w> because i save my xubuntu 18.04 in pendirve
[07:15] <xubuntu50w> pendrive
[07:16] <xubuntu50w> when i put on HPE proliant ml10 gen 9
[07:16] <xubuntu50w> i select "install Xubuntu"
[07:16] <xubuntu50w> my monitor turn into black screen
[07:16] <xubuntu50w> but the monitor lights still blinking
[07:17] <xubuntu50w> They told me to try text based install
[07:17] <xubuntu50w> but how do I do it
[07:18] <pmjdebru1jn> for I server I suggest you download the regular ubuntu installer
[07:18] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[07:18] <xubuntu50w> why?
[07:19] <pmjdebru1jn> since that has a text based installer
[07:19] <xubuntu50w> Xubuntu don't have text based installer?
[07:19] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: why would it
[07:19] <pmjdebru1jn> if the GUI installer doesn't work, you're also going to have running the regular GUI as well
[07:19] <pmjdebru1jn> as it's essentially the same thing
[07:20] <pmjdebru1jn> but even from the regular ubuntu server install, you can install the gui afterward
[07:20] <pmjdebru1jn> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (if i recall correctly)
[07:21] <xubuntu50w> But how do I install ubuntu by text based install
[07:21] <pmjdebru1jn> download the server iso
[07:21] <pmjdebru1jn> I linked to it just now
[07:22] <xubuntu50w> after that?
[07:23] <nomenon> or the mini.iso
[07:23] <nomenon> boot it, hit enter on command line installer
[07:24] <xubuntu50w> so should i download the minimal ubuntu?
[07:24] <xubuntu50w> or the ubuntu 18.04
[07:24] <pmjdebru1jn> the server install should be fine
[07:24] <pmjdebru1jn> nomenon: whats' the difference with teh mini iso?
[07:25] <nomenon> its very small, it downloads what you choose to install while it is installing
[07:25] <pmjdebru1jn> oh
[07:25] <nomenon> you can make it install all the ubuntustuffs
[07:25] <xubuntu50w> so which one should i download?
[07:25] <nomenon> mini.iso > select text based installer on first or second screen
[07:26] <nomenon> eventually it will give you a choice to install ubuntu tasks
[07:26] <xubuntu50w> can u give me the link?
[07:26] <nomenon> select what tasks you want, such as a server install, Ubuntu full desktop, xubuntu-core, xubuntu full
[07:26] <xubuntu50w> just wan to confirm
[07:26] <xubuntu50w> Xubuntu can't install by text based
[07:27] <xubuntu50w> but Ubuntu can?
[07:27] <pmjdebru1jn> as i said there little point to it
[07:27] <nomenon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:27] <nomenon> they all can
[07:27] <pmjdebru1jn> and again, if the installer is having issue, there's a good chance you'll have issues after doing a text based install as well
[07:27] <nomenon> you have to select the right mini.iso for your hardware
[07:27] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: the bigger question is, why would you want xubuntu on a proliant?
[07:27] <pmjdebru1jn> I'm aware it's a bit offtopic
[07:28] <xubuntu50w> I'm in a small software company
[07:28] <xubuntu50w> and my owner ask me to download xubutu
[07:28] <xubuntu50w> xubuntu
[07:29] <nomenon> virtualbox and mini.iso with some time just trying things might help you alot
[07:29] <xubuntu50w> how do i know which one is the right mini.iso for my hardware
[07:29] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: then the question is, why would he want to gui on the server?
[07:29] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: typically it doesn't have any real use
[07:29] <nomenon> xubuntu50w, you learn what your hardware architecture is and download the corresponding iso
[07:29] <pmjdebru1jn> obviously I don't know your use case etc
[07:30] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu50w: you may want to discuss with your business owner what goals he wants to achieve, and make decision based on that going forward
[07:30] <nomenon> xubuntu50w, if you do not know your own basic hardware types you should not be installing anything in a work env
[07:30] <xubuntu50w> so basically I'm doing an internship at a company and my boss require me to use xubuntu
[07:31] <xubuntu50w> I don
[07:31] <xubuntu50w> I don't think i have a choice sorry
[07:31] <pmjdebru1jn> are you sure that's literally that's what they meant?
[07:31] <xubuntu50w> can u also share the mini iso for Xubuntu?
[07:31] <pmjdebru1jn> as it's a very odd requirement
[07:32] <xubuntu50w> He asked me to install Xubuntu 18.04
[07:32] <xubuntu50w> and setup LTSP
[07:32] <nomenon> xubuntu50w, I did, mini.iso is a minimal iso that lets you choose what you install as you install it, it will let you install all the ubuntutdudududtuus
[07:32] <pmjdebru1jn> aaaah LTSP
[07:32] <pmjdebru1jn> so the main goal IS the GUI
[07:32] <pmjdebru1jn> that explains a little
[07:33] <xubuntu50w> so when i download the mini.iso
[07:34] <xubuntu50w> i use the command line install right
[07:34] <xubuntu50w> but how do i change to xubuntu
[07:34] <pmjdebru1jn> as nomenon said, you can select xubuntu as a task during the install
[07:35] <xubuntu50w> is it?
[07:35] <xubuntu50w> ok i will try first
[07:35] <pmjdebru1jn> be sure to also install openssh during the install, so you can connect to the machien if you screen goes black again
[07:35] <xubuntu50w> is there any guide for it?
[07:35] <pmjdebru1jn> no clue
[07:35] <nomenon> xubuntu50w, all over the internet
[07:35] <pmjdebru1jn> it's fairly trivial
[07:37] <xubuntu50w> okok i will try
[07:38] <nomenon> :)
[07:44] <xubuntu64w> should I click command line installer or install
[07:45] <pmjdebru1jn> presumably it would take you only a few minites to try either option :)
[07:45] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu64w: if you're uncomfortable with the install at all, I highly suggest running it in VMware/KVM/whatever first
[07:49] <xubuntu64w> can u send me the link for mini.iso again?
[07:49] <xubuntu64w> because i select my pendrive, the machine doesn't react
[07:49] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu64w: i'm sure you can find it using google
[07:50] <xubuntu64w> but why when i select it on my machine
[07:50] <xubuntu64w> it doesn't show anything
[07:52] <pmjdebru1jn> "select it on your machine"
[07:52] <pmjdebru1jn> please elaborate exactly what you're doing
[07:54] <nomenon> he put it on his thumb drive >:D
[07:54] <xubuntu64w> I insert my pendrive to my machine
[07:54] <xubuntu64w> It came out some options
[07:54] <xubuntu64w> i choose BIOS
[07:54] <xubuntu64w> and select the pendrive as 1st option in the boot
[07:55] <xubuntu64w> after that i select my pendrive
[07:55] <xubuntu64w> it doesn't react
[07:55] <xubuntu64w> What should I do
[07:55] <xubuntu64w> is that because the bit for mini.iso is different
[07:55] <pmjdebru1jn> sound like a isolinux issue
[07:55] <pmjdebru1jn> how did you put the iso on your pendrive?
[07:56] <xubuntu64w> use universal USB installer
[07:56] <pmjdebru1jn> https://etcher.io/ try that
[07:57] <xubuntu64w> thanks
[07:57] <pmjdebru1jn> "universal usb installer" seems to try to be clever, which isn't always a good thing
[07:58] <xubuntu64w> can we use other social apps to chat?
[07:58] <pmjdebru1jn> no
[07:58] <xubuntu64w> So that i can show you pictures
[07:59] <pmjdebru1jn> there's many image sharing services you can use for that
[07:59] <pmjdebru1jn> and just paste a link here
[07:59] <xubuntu64w> ok
[08:14] <xubuntu64w> i cant use the mini.iso
[08:15] <xubuntu64w> is that because it is not 64 bit
[08:15] <pmjdebru1jn> "cant"
[08:15] <pmjdebru1jn> what does that mean
[08:15] <pmjdebru1jn> please clearly specify what you mean
[08:15] <pmjdebru1jn> we're not psychic
[10:07] <Leifie> Hi, anyone here? Good to see you guys. I've got a problem w/ Xubuntu 18.04 installation on MSI GV62, so if anyone have a minute it will be great. I cannot find straight solution or i looking bad. Who knows? :D
[10:30] <Spass> hello Leifie, what's the problem exactly?
[10:31] <Leifie> Hi Spass, in general i found there MSI do not like OS another then Windows. Thank you MSI, but to the topic. I'd install the OS, and after that i try to log the first time. And:
[10:32] <Leifie> 1. Freeze on password -> forced to restart
[10:33] <Leifie> 2. Freeze just after log -> again restard, took recovery,  reboot 3. Freeze after log again.
[10:35] <Leifie> There is some issue with packege (dspkginit) i use to try solve, but with another reboot nothing change.
[10:39] <Spass> your laptop has NVIDIA or AMD GPU?
[10:40] <Leifie> Nvidia (gf GTX1050)
[10:41] <Leifie> It can be problem with nvidia drivers install with OS installtion?
[10:42] <Spass> did you install anything on that system or is it a fresh install that just doesn't want to work?
[10:43] <Leifie> It's fresh install on new platform.
[10:44] <Spass> ok, so when you're on the login screen press Ctrl+Alt+F2, log in, and install NVIDIA drivers using "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt install nvidia-384"
[10:45] <Leifie> Alright! :)
[11:01] <Leifie> Ooook Spass, i'd like you recommended. It all goes right until 94% i hope it's not stupid question, but drivers installation stopped at this moment, on "writing new private key to /var/lib/shim-signed/mok/mok.priv" should i do something or just wait a little longer?
[11:04] <Spass> hmm, it's some kind of bug, I see some other person had that issue on his machine, waiting will probably not help here - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1042805/installing-nvidia-driver-396-on-ubuntu-18-04
[11:05] <Spass> you can make sure that you have Secure Boot disabled in the BIOS (not sure if it's important, but this is recommended by that person)
[11:07] <Spass> and you can always reboot and try again, maybe it's a random issue
[11:08] <Leifie> Hmm, oki doki. I'll try.
[11:08] <Spass> oh, there's a solution here - https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1036167/stuck-trying-to-intall-nvidia-390-ubuntu-18-04-lts-/
[11:08] <Spass> when you get that "error" try to enter your password two times
[11:08] <Spass> "Try to enter a password twice blindly."
[11:08] <Spass> so password Enter, password Enter
[11:08] <Spass> root password of course
[11:09] <Spass> other options - "Helped, entered password 4 times and its worked." lol
[11:09] <Spass> and - "The posted solution of typing the password blindly did not work for me. What worked was pressing ESC four times."
[11:10] <Leifie> Ha! I should be smart enough to looking for solution on Nvidia forums :D
[11:10] <Leifie> lol
[11:10] <Leifie> maybe I just need to do something on your keyboard :D like pro haxior in movies :D It's always work then!
[11:10] <Spass> so 1) disable secure boot in the bios 2) try above solutions if 1 didn't help
[11:11] <Leifie> Ok, but i already forced laptop to reboot so let's do it as you say :D
[11:12] <Leifie> on my keyboard*
[11:13] <Spass> yeah, leave my keyboard alone ;)
[11:13] <Leifie> Haha :D
[11:13] <Spass> it has got enough haxoring from my noob fingers
[11:16] <Leifie> story of my life...
[11:17] <Leifie> :D
[11:19] <Leifie> lol i'm done.
[11:19] <Leifie> it freeze when i recovere do not ended instalation after reboot, so i put password 4 times...
[11:19] <Leifie> Yeah. It's working.
[11:19] <Leifie> :D
[11:20] <Spass> ok, one small step forward
[11:25] <Leifie> Oki doki Spass i am rly greatful for your support it looks like... Fixed. Everything after logged what should work - work, so i cen move to next step in configuration.
[11:25] <Leifie> Thx, man once again! :)
[11:26] <Spass> it works already? cool. I was expecting some more issues going further :) no problem man, have fun configuring that beast
[11:52] <xubuntu81w> Hi there!
[11:52] <diogenes_> xubuntu81w, hi!
[11:53] <xubuntu81w> I'd like to ask for help with a little issue on my system, if possible.
[11:53] <diogenes_> !ask | xubuntu81w
[11:53] <xubuntu81w> !patience
[11:54] <diogenes_> lol
[11:54] <xubuntu81w> Xubuntu boots slowly. It takes between 1 and 2 minutes.
[11:54] <xubuntu81w> And it is installed in a SSD.
[11:55] <Spass> xubuntu81w, yeah, I've seen many topics on forums about that issue with 18.04 recently, are you using Intel graphics?
[11:56] <xubuntu81w> Oh yes, it is a refurbished laptop, a Dell Latitude E6330.
[11:57] <Spass> your option is to boot from an older kernel or adding to your GRUB config file this "video=SVIDEO-1:d"
[11:57] <Spass> I can tell you where exactly
[11:58] <xubuntu81w> I need to do that while in the GRUB menu, right?
[11:58] <Spass> not really, you can do it from your system
[11:59] <xubuntu81w> That'd be great, but where can I find the conf file?
[11:59] <Spass> edit as root this file /etc/default/grub
[11:59] <Spass> so "sudo mousepad /etc/default/grub" for example
[11:59] <Spass> there should be that line somewhere there - "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[12:00] <Spass> change it to - "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash video=SVIDEO-1:d"
[12:00] <Spass> so just add "video=SVIDEO-1:d" at the end
[12:01] <Spass> save that file
[12:01] <xubuntu81w> What will this do btw? I'm curious.
[12:01] <Spass> and in your terminal run "sudo update-grub" then reboot, that should fix it
[12:02] <xubuntu81w> Done.
[12:02] <Spass> no idea what it does exactly, but it helped many people ;)
[12:03] <xubuntu81w> I see. I'll try that.
[12:03] <xubuntu81w> Brb.
[12:03] <Spass> and you can always change it later deleting that and updating your grub again
[12:03] <Spass> ok, let us know
[12:05] <xubuntu06w> Well, that definitely did a dent on the boot time, but it's still taking a while.
[12:05] <xubuntu06w> I wonder if there is something else in the way...
[12:06] <Spass> that's the only solution I know other than booting from an slightly older kernel
[12:06] <diogenes_> xubuntu06w, run: systemd-analyze blame | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:06] <diogenes_> share the link here
[12:07] <Spass> I don't have that issue on my systems (NVIDIA), so I didn't investigate further
[12:08] <xubuntu73w> Yo Guys
[12:08] <xubuntu73w> Im currently trying to use autologin on my xubuntu desktop PC
[12:09] <xubuntu73w> but with the autologin trick using LIGHTDM its takes 30/40 more seconds to boot, i've already set the autotime logout on 0 sec but it still takes way longer than before
[12:09] <xubuntu06w> There: http://termbin.com/kah7
[12:09] <xubuntu73w> I've read and tried googling but i didn't come to an solution
[12:09] <xubuntu73w> the boot time now is 80 seconds
[12:10] <xubuntu73w> dmesg is 25 seconds , so for some reason i got wrong on lightdm i think
[12:10] <xubuntu73w> Any suggestions?
[12:10] <diogenes_> xubuntu73w, run this too: ls $HOME/.config/autostart | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:11] <Spass> hello xubuntu73w, and when you disable autologin it boots faster again?
[12:11] <xubuntu73w> Yes
[12:11] <xubuntu73w> but for some reason i think the autologin process is taking more time
[12:11] <xubuntu73w> gonna run that command
[12:12] <Spass> xubuntu06w, out of curiosity, do you have autologin enabled too?
[12:12] <Spass> maybe your issue is related
[12:12] <xubuntu06w> What's autologin?
[12:13] <Spass> do you have to enter your user password on system start?
[12:13] <xubuntu06w> Sorry, I've only dabbled in Linux for a short while compared to WZ.
[12:13] <xubuntu73w> diogenes, ran the command in sudo mode as administrator, cannot acces '/root/.config/autostart': no such file or directory
[12:13] <xubuntu06w> I do.
[12:13] <Spass> ok, so not related
[12:13] <diogenes_> xubuntu06w, ls $HOME/.config/autostart | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:14] <diogenes_> no root
[12:14] <diogenes_> no sudo
[12:14] <xubuntu06w> Doesn't exist.
[12:15] <diogenes_> doesn't exist what?
[12:15] <xubuntu06w> The directory.
[12:15] <diogenes_> ok open settings > session and startup > application autostart
[12:15] <diogenes_> see what is ticked for startup
[12:17] <Spass> diogenes_, you pinged wring xubuntuXXX ;)
[12:17] <Spass> wrong*
[12:17] <diogenes_> Spass, lol, i guess so, too many xubuntus XD
[12:18] <xubuntu06w> AT-SPI D-Bus Bus, Blueman Applet(Bluetooth), Evolution alarm(which I should have uninstalled), PolicyKit Authentication, Power Manager...
[12:18] <Spass> xubuntu06w, you're fine
[12:18] <Spass> that was directed to the other user
[12:18] <xubuntu06w> Oh, ack! Sorry.
[12:18] <diogenes_> and there is no print quaue applet to startup?
[12:19] <xubuntu06w> There is, I didn't finish :D
[12:19] <diogenes_> xubuntu06w, try to disable it, also disable snap or even better remove it and then reboot again.
[12:20] <xubuntu06w> Alright. It won't auto-start, but I'll still be able to open it manually, right?
[12:21] <diogenes_> yes
[12:21] <diogenes_> also look for snap
[12:21] <xubuntu06w> Can't find anything named snap.
[12:21] <diogenes_> ok try to reboot see if disabling the print from autostart changed anything
[12:21] <xubuntu06w> Alright.
[12:27]  * Spass purges snapd as fast as possible on 18.04
[12:29]  * diogenes_ purges it even faster alongside with thunderbird, pidgin, whoopsie, gnome-software and few others :)
[12:31] <xubuntu91w> Nope, the boot time actually **increased**. I measured it with my Casio, from the GRUB screen to the login window it took 03:09 minutes.
[12:31] <xubuntu91w> It is strange, because the xubuntu screen appears first, but then it just sits there in a blackscreen.
[12:32] <diogenes_> xubuntu91w, is it a new fresh install?
[12:32] <xubuntu91w> This install is a month old, at worst, not even that.
[12:32] <Spass> hmm, so that "grub fix" doesn't really helped :/
[12:32] <diogenes_> xubuntu91w, was it always this slow?
[12:32] <xubuntu91w> I cannot recall, a friend of mine realized :/.
[12:33] <xubuntu91w> As I said, I only owned this laptop for like less than a month.
[12:33] <Spass> you can try to boot from an older kernel in your grub menu
[12:33] <xubuntu73w> Did any of you ever created a own desktop environment with XUBUNTU as core?
[12:34] <xubuntu91w> No, it was a dual boot setup.
[12:34] <xubuntu91w> I made an image of windows and deleted the partition yesterday.
[12:35] <xubuntu91w> Wait a minute, there's something weird here.
[12:35] <xubuntu91w> In my partition list the swap partition doesn't show up.
[12:35] <diogenes_> xubuntu91w, one more thing you should check, go to bios, dard drive sata mode and notice whether it's AHCI or IDE
[12:36] <xubuntu91w> Damn, I didn't even take that in account. But why would the refurb guys set it to IDE? Those haven't been used for years!
[12:36] <xubuntu91w> Anyways, brb.
[12:38] <Spass> xubuntu91w, new Ubuntu installer doesn't create separate swap partition iirc, swapfile is the new default now
[12:42] <xubuntu11w> Back.
[12:42] <xubuntu11w> Heh, I should consider making an account on Freenode :/
[12:42] <xubuntu11w> Anyways, AHCI is enabled.
[12:43] <Spass> xubuntu11w, not sure if you missed my last message - new Ubuntu installer doesn't create separate swap partition iirc, swapfile is the new default now
[12:43] <xubuntu11w> What do you mean? I'm a bit confused.
[12:43] <diogenes_> xubuntu11w, ok, 3 minutes boot time is very slow and what about windows boot time?
[12:43] <xubuntu11w> It was definitely faster.
[12:46] <diogenes_> xubuntu11w, do you have to enter the password at boot time in order to login? or it logs in automatically?
[12:46] <Spass> xubuntu11w, you can always change your nick on IRC using command "/nick YOUR_NICK"
[12:47] <Y0ungst3r> Better.
[12:47] <Y0ungst3r> Thanks.
[12:47] <Spass> and way less confusing :) np
[12:47] <Y0ungst3r> No, it's the Xubuntu login window.
[12:50] <diogenes_> Y0ungst3r, so you need to enter the password each time you boot?
[12:51] <Y0ungst3r> Yes. But are you talking about the Xubuntu login window?
[12:52] <diogenes_> Y0ungst3r, yes
[12:52] <Y0ungst3r> Yes, it is enabled.
[12:53] <diogenes_> try got to menu > users and groups and change it to Password: Not asked for password
[12:55] <Y0ungst3r> Done, time to reboot.
[13:01] <Y0ungst3r> Hmm, the login window still shows up, it just doesn't ask for a password.
[13:02] <diogenes_> Y0ungst3r, you mean you still can see this: https://bluesabre.org/2018/03/03/lightdm-gtk-greeter-2-0-4-released/
[13:02] <Y0ungst3r> Precisely.
[13:04] <diogenes_> Y0ungst3r, then there is definitely something wrong with your installation because you shouldn't see that window at all and that's what causes the slow boot time.
[13:04] <diogenes_> i'd conside a re-installation
[13:04] <diogenes_> consider*
[13:05] <Y0ungst3r> I've made a backup of my /home folder. What should I do in order to set everything back to normal?
[13:05] <Y0ungst3r> When I re-install, that is.
[13:06] <diogenes_> Y0ungst3r, if you've got a backup then it's all fine, do you have a separate /home partition?
[13:06] <Y0ungst3r> I don't think so. I went with the defaults.
[13:07] <diogenes_> Y0ungst3r, run: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:07] <diogenes_> share the link here
[13:07] <Y0ungst3r> Sorry, I'm not that well versed when it comes to Linux, I'll need a few more years.
[13:07] <Y0ungst3r> http://termbin.com/w8qm
[13:08] <diogenes_> yep, no separate /home, then really make sure you've got a backup of your data because a re-installation with wipe everything off
[13:08] <Spass> to be honest I would wait with that reinstall, there's a big chance that you will have that slow boot issue after you'd upgrade your fresh install
[13:09] <Y0ungst3r> Alright. So you're saying it would be best to rearrange everything by hand?
[13:09] <Spass> and if you really want to enable autologin you could change some config files to do so
[13:09] <diogenes_> i'd have done a re-installation loooog time ago if my pc was booting 3 minutes
[13:10] <diogenes_> but ok, it's up to you.
[13:10] <Spass> right, but it seems that there's something wrong with the new update, many users have that issue
[13:10] <Spass> Y0ungst3r, is slow boot your only issue now or does your system have other problems?
[13:11] <Y0ungst3r> Well, there's one little thing, but I think it is more related to the laptop.
[13:11] <Y0ungst3r> The fan turns on for brief periods of time, then shuts off again.
[13:12] <Y0ungst3r> That happens sometimes, especially when I'm using Firefox. Don't ask me why ._.
[13:12] <Y0ungst3r> But as I said, it is a refurb. Wouldn't be surprised it is was related to hardware.
[13:13] <Spass> well, fan profile is usually controlled by the bios, I don;t know any way to change it
[13:13] <diogenes_> in some bios there is an option, fans always on enable/disable
[13:14] <Y0ungst3r> Either way, I don't think it is related to Linux.  From what I know, Dell support is ok on Linux.
[13:14] <Spass> anyway, did you try to boot using another kernel from the grub menu? that's the last thing you can test
[13:14] <Spass> if you can't see grub at startup, hold Shift
[13:15] <Y0ungst3r> Nope, GRUB is still there.
[13:15] <Y0ungst3r> How do I use another kernel?
[13:15] <Spass> well assuming that you have some older kernels, they should be visible somewhere on that list
[13:16] <Y0ungst3r> Alright, brb.
[13:20] <xubuntu08w> Done.
[13:21] <xubuntu08w> Looks like the other acc is still logged in.
[13:21] <Y0ungst3r> Anyways, I went in Ubuntu Advanced Options and selected the older kernel. And it booted instantly!
[13:21] <Y0ungst3r> So it's definitely related to the newer kernel.
[13:22] <Spass> yeah, that's why I think reinstall is a bad idea now
[13:22] <Spass> you would upgrade and have the same issue, probably
[13:22] <Y0ungst3r> You have a point. Until there's a kernel update it will be no good.
[13:22] <Spass> I think it's a temporary bug and will be fixed soon
[13:22] <Y0ungst3r> Anyways, how can I set the older kernel as a default?
[13:25] <Spass> good question, I've never done it myself, but I think of some options - removing the new kernel, or editing the GRUB with something like GRUB customizer (GUI tool)
[13:26] <diogenes_> Y0ungst3r, grub customizer might help
[13:26] <Y0ungst3r> I'll check it out.
[13:29] <Y0ungst3r> Brb.
[13:29] <Y0ungst3r> I just updated it with the GRUB customizer.
[13:30] <Spass> also, since it didn't help, that "video=SVIDEO-1:d" entry can be removed now from the /etc/default/grub
[13:31] <xubuntu47w> I do not use Firefox, how may I remove the firefox-locale files?
[13:32] <Spass> sudo apt purge firefox-locale*
[13:33] <xubuntu47w> Thank you
[13:33] <Spass> np
[13:42] <Y0ungst3r> Man, you guys rock!
[13:42] <Y0ungst3r> I just did some arrangements with the GRUB customizer and now the boot time went from 03:09 to 00:12 from the BIOS screen to the login.
[13:48] <Spass> Y0ungst3r, you should observe new system upgrades for something like linux-image-4.15.xxx-generic
[13:48] <Spass> new kernel will hopefully fix those boot time issues
[13:49] <Y0ungst3r> You mean in the system updates?
[13:49] <Spass> yes, but the kernel will probably be installed in the background, as a security update
[13:50] <Y0ungst3r> Alright, I'll keep that in mind.
[13:50] <Spass> anyway, it's kinda sad that this bug is present in the LTS release, clearly that kernel version should be tested more
[13:50] <Y0ungst3r> There's something I'm thinking about. Do any of you work in Linux systems for a living?
[13:51] <Spass> nah, just an end-user with some time to spare on IRC
[13:53] <Y0ungst3r> Heh, sometimes I wish I did jump ship earlier. I admit the Terminal is still a bit daunting to me, but it is a very consistent and uniform system.
[13:57] <Spass> Linux makes you learn things, it's a system for tinkers, and the community is super-awesome (most of the times)
[13:58] <Y0ungst3r> My experiences with the community have been mostly positive. Sometimes I get angry with the problems I encounter(not in this instance), but I don't take it out on others.
[13:58] <Y0ungst3r> It's a very different philosophy.
[14:00] <Spass> we all get angry sometimes, bugs happens, sometimes they're annoying
[14:00] <Spass> or break something that used to work perfectly
[14:07] <Spass> but I have great respect for all the people behind any FOSS project, I've met some amazingly knowledgeable people in past years
[14:15] <Jedee2011> hi guys, after much trying and reading, i've decided to reinstall xubuntu, i've saved all my data with help from the usb live image, and as of this early morning running like a charm again also on my ssd
[14:15] <Jedee2011> my old HDD is now backup, only i want to know how i can delete the old install files so the boot is up to speed