[01:30] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[01:33] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Early bird gets the worm .. what worm are you chasing ?
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> mosquito again
[01:34] <Bashing-om> OH, case of what chases you :P
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> think im gonna make a trap soon
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> same beast chasing me day after day
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> was reading about a bottle & cane sugar
[01:35] <tomreyn> just rub yourself with hiney, best trap!
[01:35] <tomreyn> *hOney
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> lol tomreyn
[01:35] <Bashing-om> All the kin folk take turns .. giving you the run-a-round .
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: you sure i wouldnt be a honeypot for wasps then aswell lol
[01:36] <tomreyn> gee dependencies
[01:36] <tomreyn> can get complex quickly
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> :p
[01:39] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: Nother use for a flow chart .. huh ?
[01:39] <lotuspsychje> those african mosquito's are even worst, they sit on a tree till you sleep, then stab tru thick clothes
[01:40] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: umm, no thanks, no flow charts for me, i'm on holidays. and without mosquitos.
[01:41] <tomreyn> well, mostly, just the cute ones.
[01:41] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: We got Arkansas Ridge runner variety of mosquitos ... -- they can stand flat footed and drink from a quart fruit jar .
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> lol
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> i can stand much...but those bloody..
[01:42] <tomreyn> call buffy
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> haha
[01:45] <tomreyn> so this person got an amd computer this time since last time they messed up when they had an intel. ,akes sense.
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> oO
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> aha few updates ubuntu base, gdm..i wonder if its about my bug
[01:48] <tomreyn> what's your bug?
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1780986
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> happened a second time now
[01:50] <tomreyn> you got an update there 12 minutes ago
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> ill test in few hours
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: its weird, did not happened multiple boots, then re-occured suddenly
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> perhaps i will await till it happens again, and try #4 if it does
[01:53] <tomreyn> hmm, 18.04 is still pretty bug ridden i'd say
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> i really hope .1 gonna straight out alot
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> or the xenial upgraders will have the shock of their lifes
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> isnt there like a current list of bugfixes somewhere yet?
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> or only at release?
[01:56] <tomreyn> i dont think a big box of patches will land in .1 all at once at release time.
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> howso?
[01:56] <tomreyn> well patches are already going into 18.04.0
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> didnt see too much updates comming yet
[01:57] <tomreyn> i.e. if you ar eon 18.04, those patches which will be available in .1 you probably alread yhave
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> right
[01:57] <tomreyn> i.e. if it's still pretty broken now, it probably will be in .1, too ;)
[01:57] <tomreyn> there's not a lot fo time left
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> you have a few days of for support tomreyn lol?
[01:58] <tomreyn> :)
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om doesnt believe me storm is comming :p
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> i know alotttt of xenial users out there
[01:58] <tomreyn> i might even upgrade to 18.04 form 16.04, too, now, since i got got my own share of issues here, now.
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> and also the ubuntu-gnome guys, i forgot about
[01:59] <tomreyn> i guess a lot fo people already followed the "how you can upgrade early to 18.04 (and get yourself into a big mess)' articles.
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> the hardcore gang perhaps
[02:00] <tomreyn> but then the major ity probbaly didnt, right
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> im curious :p
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> xenial runs out in 2021 right
[02:02] <tomreyn> yes
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> so they have some time to fix things, if things go real bad
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> i hear they have some room for new gnome devs now
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> they gonna need it lol
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: #ubuntu-news got rss feeds now, did you notice?
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> feel free to hop in
[02:04] <tomreyn> some room? like this? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Kriseninterventionsraum.jpeg
[02:04] <tomreyn> oh wait, thats googl
[02:05] <tomreyn> no, i didnt even know there is this channel
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/07/09/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-535/
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> uwn is revived
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> tnx 2 the news crew
[02:10] <tomreyn> apparently bashing -om spends much time on this. this can be nice to have.
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> some cool news facts
[02:10] <tomreyn> weekly is a bit too much for me, i'd prefer it less often and just the few really important things, like new major bugs reported.
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> its a lot of work indeed
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: https://www.gnome.org/foundation/careers/
[02:16] <oerheks> https://news.ycombinator.com/ helps a lot
[02:17] <tomreyn> even more to read ;)
[02:17] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: so you're saying these positions are paid by canonical?
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: not sure anymore where i found the original article
[02:19] <tomreyn> no need to look it up ;)
[02:19] <tomreyn> that'd be nice if so
[02:23] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: I can hunt it up .. seems Gnome how has funds for 4 paid management positions :) Open call !
[02:24] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: lotuspsychje posted the link above
[02:25] <tomreyn> i mean the one where gnome seeks staff
[02:25] <tomreyn> oh, you say *management*
[02:25] <tomreyn> sorry, missed that
[02:25] <tomreyn> and: no, thanks ;)
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> list for canonical is bit bigger wow https://www.canonical.com/careers/all-vacancies
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> ah found it duh https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/07/gnome-foundation-opens-recruitment-for-further-expansion/
[02:28] <tomreyn> "anonymous donor"
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> erm, my bank number is:...
[02:29] <tomreyn> well this could also have been redhat
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> or some john doe user
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> oerheks you wanna tell us something?
[02:31] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: the original: https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/07/gnome-foundation-opens-recruitment-for-further-expansion/  .
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: just found it too :p
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> but tnx anyway
[02:33] <tomreyn> :)
[02:34] <tomreyn> that's "up to" 125k USD per person, per year.
[02:35] <oerheks> can i bring my own dog?
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:35] <tomreyn> sure, as long as you "eat your own dog food"
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> they have a little yard available
[02:36] <tomreyn> some of those are actualy home based
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> some good stuff here https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[03:06] <tomreyn> oibaf + padoka are nice if you want the latest.
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> hey guiverc_d
[03:15] <guiverc_d> howdy lotuspsychje :)
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:14] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:26] <ducasse> good morning
[08:47] <EriC^^> hey all
[08:54] <MysticReverie> hi eric
[08:54] <MysticReverie> hows it going
[08:55] <EriC^^> hi MysticReverie , good thanks you?
[08:56] <MysticReverie> Not bad thanks..  bit tired lol
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[09:17] <EriC^^> morning
[09:41] <blackflow> moan-ingu!
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> hey blackflow
[09:41]  * lotuspsychje slides a cuppa coffee to blackflow 
[09:42] <blackflow> ooh, danke. I've got a large cup of my morning frappucino 'ere tho'
[09:49] <MysticReverie> im going to have a virtual box in ubuntu, windows 10,  for useing softwarew that im familiar with.  But i will not have it ocnnecting ot he internet at all.  sounds a good way to avcoid the snooping but still use the software
[09:49] <MysticReverie> connecting to the *
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> wich software?
[09:49] <MysticReverie> corel painshop pro
[09:49] <MysticReverie> i like ot use it for HDR photo splitting
[09:50] <MysticReverie> ther eare other softwares available, but i find paintshopoeasy gui
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> gimp? krita?
[09:50] <MysticReverie> easy gui, with good results
[09:50] <oerheks> darktable
[09:50] <blackflow> omg corel paint shop still exists?
[09:50] <MysticReverie> im unfamiliar,and not even sure if they deal well with single RAW photo t osplit it into three for HDR processing
[09:50] <MysticReverie> i tried darktable, but the interface is a but complax for my mind lol
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> photo editing= complex
[09:51] <oerheks> it is huge indeed
[09:51] <MysticReverie> painshop is grea tfor good results and simple gui imo
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> or else use pinta lol
[09:51] <MysticReverie> well yea, but its not with painshop lol
[09:51] <MysticReverie> even i can do hdr processing, and thats saying something
[09:52] <blackflow> corel paintshop was awesome, last version I used was part of Corel Suite 8 or something like that. It had powerful scripting capabilities, I even made a game in it.
[09:52] <MysticReverie> wow lol..  i have no idea about that.  i just love its easy to use system with really good results.  that fits me perfectly lol
[09:53] <blackflow> MysticReverie: I discovered it (the scripting feature) when I had to process tens of thousands of images in the same way.
[09:53] <MysticReverie> blackflow, im not evensure what cripting is really, sorry
[09:54] <MysticReverie> strange name tho 'paintshop'  yet it is a photo editor
[09:54] <blackflow> MysticReverie: it has a basic-like language where you can program it to do stuff
[09:54] <blackflow> BASIC -like
[09:54] <MysticReverie> liek commodore 64?  lol
[09:55] <blackflow> more like visual basic
[09:55] <MysticReverie> 10 ?"Ok"
[09:56] <MysticReverie> 20 goto 10
[09:56] <MysticReverie> thats about my limit
[09:56] <blackflow> sans the line numbers, but something like that
[09:56] <MysticReverie> hmm
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:56] <blackflow> anyway, all of its functions were exposed through the API so it was very powerful for batch processing
[10:00] <MysticReverie> for this virutal box,  how much ram should i allocate?
[10:00] <MysticReverie> if ok to ask here
[10:00] <MysticReverie> i have 8 gb ram on this laptop
[10:02] <blackflow> at least 4G
[10:03] <MysticReverie> ok ,thanks
[10:03] <MysticReverie> i guess over 4g may make ubuntu lag tho
[10:04] <MysticReverie> 4 sounds good
[10:04] <MysticReverie> also, after i install windows in the virtual system, can i delete the iso , or i need to leave it on system to work?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon BluesKaj
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje
[11:43] <lordievader> 👋
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[11:43] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[11:43] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> all fine here, chill on irc a bit
[11:51] <lordievader> 👍
[11:58] <BluesKaj> lordievader, 🖒
[12:01] <lordievader> Hmm, I'm missing that character.
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> ♪
[12:10] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I can't find yours either
[12:11] <BluesKaj> the other thumbs up
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> ®
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> hexchat/window/overview characters
[12:12] <BluesKaj> looking in misc symbols and pictographs on this character set
[12:13] <BluesKaj> i don't use hexchat
[12:22] <BluesKaj> I tried it for a while and it was ok , but I guess I tend to be loyal to kde apps :-)
[12:24] <oerheks> 🅱🅻🆄🅴🆂🅺🅰🅹
[12:25] <blackflow> freenode should really step into 21st century and offer shadow banning.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> 🅾🅴🆁🅷🅴🅺🆂!
[14:09] <leftyfb> blackflow: they were just asking how to configure the DNS server in bionic basically. "<zprd> I need it to resolve local addresses, and use the local dns server, ie use the hosts onw as the xenial does"
[14:10] <blackflow> leftyfb: the confusing part is "local" where. container or host.
[14:10] <leftyfb> not really
[14:10] <leftyfb> local as in the DNS server in his local network
[14:10] <blackflow> did they say that?
[14:10] <leftyfb> "<zprd> I need it to resolve local addresses, and use the local dns server, ie use the hosts onw as the xenial does"
[14:11] <blackflow> they should really be specific about the meaning of "local".
[14:12] <blackflow> for example, there could be a farm of containers with a specific subnet on a bridge on that host, being the "local" network
[14:12] <daftykins> might just mean hostnames -> IPs
[14:12] <blackflow> which is totally not unusual setup. and a host-based DNS resolver is servicing them for container names on that bridge vlan
[14:13] <blackflow> but that is completely different from "local" being the public IP subnet outside of the phsyical machine, aka the LAN
[14:14] <leftyfb> you're overthinking it :)
[14:15] <blackflow> leftyfb: maybe :)
[14:16] <blackflow> that distinction (of what "local" really is), is important in my line of work, so I guess it's just deformation professionelle
[14:18] <blackflow> (esp. when setting up NAT and firewall rules, which IPs can query which for what)
[14:24] <blackflow> see, all these sub-conditions "I must this or that".... means we still don't understand their use case :)
[14:30] <leftyfb> no, same issue, only he wants it automated
[20:47] <EriC^^> evening all
[20:50] <Bashing-om> hey EriC^^ --- our world os saved :P
[20:51] <EriC^^> hey Bashing-om :P
[20:53] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Thus far no EFI boot issues ,, a new nicro-code update fix them ?
[20:53] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[20:56] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: 2 ...Just a thought .