[15:00] <rbalint> o/
[15:00] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <cyphermox> o/
[15:03] <tdaitx> \o
[15:03]  * slangasek waves
[15:03] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 12 15:03:40 2018 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:03] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:04] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke juliank fginther)
[15:04] <slangasek> mwhudson rbalint sil2100 rcj cyphermox Odd_Bloke bdmurray philroche doko xnox juliank fginther slangasek infinity tdaitx
[15:04] <slangasek> rbalint: hi
[15:05] <rbalint> * wrote blog post http://balintreczey.hu/blog/run-ubuntu-on-windows-even-multiple-releases-in-parallel/
[15:05] <rbalint> * prepared many unattended-upgrades fixed and SRUd
[15:05] <rbalint> * SRUd gce-compute-image-packages
[15:06] <rbalint> * lot of unattended-upgrades testing
[15:06] <rbalint> (done)
[15:06] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:06] <sil2100> - New kernel SRU re-spin cycle for 4.15
[15:06] <sil2100> - Translation updates:
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Copied langpacks to xenial-proposed for .5
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Testing reported regressions, investigated the issue, l-o-m generated erroneous PPA packages for some reason
[15:06] <sil2100>     (history shows it's not the first time)
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Requested a re-export, re-generated and re-uploaded packages, re-sent call-for-testing
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Requested a full translation export for bionic (decision has been made to update -base's for 18.04.1)
[15:06] <sil2100> - Iterated on the security-britney instance
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Things work after some hacks, now just waiting for IS for getting it public
[15:06] <sil2100> - Fixing tests in the ubuntu-image cross-compilation PR to correctly mock qemu-user-static in find_executable
[15:06] <sil2100> - grub dual EFI/BIOS:
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Finalized verification of the packages, grub2-signed and shim-signed released
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Got poked by Steve about a serious regression introduced in installs with old isos
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Re-added missing dependency change, fast-tracked it to bionic-updates with Steve
[15:06] <sil2100> - Some poking around about 16.04.5 stuff
[15:07] <sil2100> - core18 minor PR reviews
[15:07] <sil2100> (done)
[15:07] <rcj> rcj:
[15:07] <gaughen> o/
[15:07] <rcj> rcj:
[15:07] <rcj> * working on bionic daily build failures
[15:07] <rcj> * proposed disabling unused checksum calculation in livecd-rootfs
[15:07] <rcj> * cloud-image partner work
[15:07] <rcj> (done)
[15:08] <cyphermox> - coaching Eickmeyer (ubuntu-studio) for uploads (calf)
[15:08] <cyphermox> - [HIGHLIGHT] netplan.io release 0.39
[15:08] <cyphermox> - debugging weird PE32 header issues between shim/grub/edk2
[15:08] <cyphermox> y- review/sponsor fix for zfs in mkinitramfs (bug LP: #1661629)
[15:08] <cyphermox> - convert triggers: dovecot, fusiondirectory
[15:08] <cyphermox> - sru verfiication
[15:08] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * MINIMAL IMAGE LAUNCH *airhorns*
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * Work for existing partners
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * Engagement with new partners around their images
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * Work to improve our lxd testing, which has a couple of warts
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> * Preparation for sprint next week
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> bdmurray:
[15:09] <bdmurray> encountered and reported Traceback when upgrading to Cosmic (LP: #1780501)
[15:09] <bdmurray> investigation in vte2.91 regression of Vte.Terminal.feed_child() LP: #1780501
[15:09] <bdmurray> SRU verification for Artful and Bionic of LP: #1768379
[15:09] <bdmurray> investigation into autopkgtest failures "triggered" by python3-defaults SRU
[15:09] <bdmurray> learned about retry-autopkgtest-regressions and used it for python3-defaults issues
[15:09] <bdmurray> tested mojo spec version of Errors Launchpad integration (not good)
[15:09] <bdmurray> updated daisy code to handle lp_use_staging being a string, commented on RT to get it updated
[15:09] <bdmurray> reported bug re deb to snap transition (LP: #1780841)
[15:09] <bdmurray> uploaded ubuntu-release-upgrader SRU for 18.04 fixing inhibitIdle and adding deb2snap transition
[15:09] <bdmurray> discussion regarding handling of noawait transitions
[15:09] <bdmurray> uploaded yorick, xpdf, and a ⛴ load more noawait SRUs for 16.04 (LP: #1780996)
[15:09] <bdmurray> review of smoser software-properties MP
[15:09] <bdmurray> SRU verification, upgrades from X and A, of LP: #1775660
[15:09] <bdmurray> worked on some of SRU verification of LP: #1780841 (🕷4 found)
[15:09] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:10] <slangasek> philroche is off
[15:10] <bdmurray> doko: ?
[15:10] <slangasek> doko is off
[15:10] <doko> on vacation
[15:10] <slangasek> xnox is off
[15:10] <doko> see you next week ....
[15:10] <slangasek> juliank:
[15:10] <juliank> * debugged mariadb hanging on arm64; blocking autopkgtests for itself and rdeps
[15:10] <juliank> * apt, python-apt point releases
[15:10] <juliank> * further work on grub postinst signature check
[15:10] <juliank> * a ton of trigger fixes
[15:10] <juliank> * a bit of launchpad api learning and adding missing tasks to the trigger bug (LP forgot to add them)...
[15:10] <juliank> (done)
[15:11] <slangasek> fginther:
[15:11] <fginther> * Out for 2 half days
[15:11] <fginther> * Working on cloud-init changes to disable ssh for users other then root
[15:11] <fginther>   * Added unit tests to cover the pre-existing code
[15:11] <fginther>   * Building images to test in real clouds
[15:11] <fginther> * Support release of minimal images with testing and publication fixes
[15:11] <fginther> * Manual testing of an updated partner image
[15:11] <fginther> ✔ done
[15:14] <slangasek>  * prep for next week's midcycle sprint
[15:14] <slangasek>  * worked on getting the POWER7 machines getting decommissioned
[15:14] <slangasek>  * interviewing candidates for a product manager role
[15:14] <slangasek>  * SRU, NEW reviews
[15:14] <slangasek>  * code reviews
[15:14] <slangasek>  * misc proposed-migration handling; there are still a lot of packages waiting in -proposed, but no more major transitions currently in progress and the backlog is way down, time for someone to start another transition
[15:14] <slangasek>  * upcoming
[15:14] <slangasek>   * off tomorrow (travel swap), in Montreal next week
[15:14] <slangasek> (done)
[15:14] <tdaitx> hmm, no infinity...
[15:14] <slangasek> tdaitx:
[15:14] <tdaitx> Short week: sick since the weekend, mostly out on Monday, slow going Tue & Wed
[15:14] <tdaitx> * lshw update + sru (LP: #1752523)
[15:14] <tdaitx> * working on openjdk-8 & openjdk-10 security updates
[15:14] <tdaitx> Other:
[15:14] <tdaitx> - taking evening language classes for the next 2 weeks (might affect my availability for the late team meetings)
[15:14] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:15] <cyphermox> tdaitx: yay lshw uploads!
[15:16] <slangasek> tdaitx: studying haskell? croatian?
[15:16] <tdaitx> and for some reason lshw does make my laptop freeze up
[15:16] <slangasek> :)
[15:16] <slangasek> oh my
[15:17] <sil2100> 'I speak fluently Python'
[15:17] <tdaitx> slangasek: hah, no, just german
[15:17] <slangasek> ok, any other questions on status?
[15:17] <sil2100> Python seems like a bad language for speaking, especially with all the whitespaces mattering that much
[15:17] <cyphermox> slangasek: product maanger role for Foundations or in general?
[15:18] <slangasek> cyphermox: in "general"
[15:18] <cyphermox> ack
[15:20] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
[15:20] <slangasek> bdmurray: ?
[15:20] <bdmurray> bug 1258597 popped up on my radar again
[15:21] <bdmurray> It seems a lot of people are bothered by it and it seems easy to fix
[15:22] <cyphermox> zug zug
[15:22] <cyphermox> (I'll upload the fix right away)
[15:22] <slangasek> what is the fix? to edit existing config files?
[15:23] <bdmurray> I'm sure commentor #45 will appreciate it
[15:23] <cyphermox> well, for one thing to not build from a default that has an invalid option
[15:23] <cyphermox> as for editing the existing config files, that's much much harder.
[15:23] <slangasek> ah ok
[15:23] <slangasek> just checking the scope
[15:23] <bdmurray> Could we fix it for 18.04.1?
[15:23] <cyphermox> I'm thinking fixing the default will already help
[15:23] <slangasek> yeah, sounds good. cyphermox you're saying you're taking it out of cycle?  if you're SRUing it we should still probably track it?
[15:24] <cyphermox> slangasek: I'll card and all of that
[15:24] <cyphermox> bdmurray: should be feasible, no other SRU in flight from the look of it
[15:25] <slangasek> I'll go ahead and card it
[15:25] <bdmurray> Okay, moving on. Is there a spot for netboot bugs e.g. 1777474
[15:25] <bdmurray> bug 1777474
[15:25] <slangasek> "netinstall ISO" != "netboot"
[15:25] <cyphermox> what's netinstall iso?
[15:26] <slangasek> are they reporting it against netinstall or netboot?
[15:26] <cyphermox> against mini.iso
[15:28] <slangasek> yeah, I don't think that image is anything we should invest in
[15:28] <cyphermox> don't we have some people who do use it?
[15:28] <slangasek> if they were actually netbooting, that's a different matter
[15:28] <cyphermox> should be simple enough to include ca-certificates on the mini.iso
[15:29] <cyphermox> "simple enough" == making sure there's a udeb, and shipping the files it needs
[15:29] <slangasek> cyphermox: clearly we do, but if they want a supported experience they should use the ISOs that we advertise
[15:29] <cyphermox> slangasek: ok.
[15:29] <bdmurray> where should the bug go though?
[15:29] <slangasek> debian-installer
[15:30] <bdmurray> okay
[15:33] <bdmurray> Since we have a couple of SRU team members here could we talk about bug 1780501 and how to proceed.
[15:33] <slangasek> bdmurray: revert it all?
[15:34] <bdmurray> I think in Ubuntu 18.04 at least it should be reverted.
[15:34] <slangasek> so, +1
[15:34] <bdmurray> I think the first paragraph of comment #8 is an assumption.
[15:34] <bdmurray> See bug 1779015 where a project had to change because the SRU
[15:35] <slangasek> developers are responsible for handling regressions introduced in SRUs
[15:36] <bdmurray> And the fix outlined in comment #4 shows how another package had to do version checking to cope with it too.
[15:38] <bdmurray> So it sounds like we are in agreement about fixing this for 18.04.
[15:38] <bdmurray> Bug 1778140 sounds bad but seems like it may be a corner case.
[15:40] <bdmurray> Any other opinions on that bug?
[15:40] <slangasek> bdmurray: I see Ted is replying to that bug; I think we should let upstream work this at the moment
[15:41] <slangasek> (we're not going to beat Ted T'so to resolving an e2fsprogs bug)
[15:41] <slangasek> s/'s/s'/
[15:41] <bdmurray> should we flag to keep an eye for rls-cc?
[15:43] <slangasek> bdmurray: unsure, you decide :)
[15:43] <bdmurray> I'll subscribe to it so we have an eye on it.
[15:44] <bdmurray> That's it from me.
[15:46] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:46] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:46] <cyphermox> yes
[15:46] <bdmurray> I'm out half of today and all of tomorrow
[15:47] <cyphermox> sil2100 and I would play Mahjong at the next sprint, we'd need two more players
[15:47] <cyphermox> asking in advance since it would be good to know rules beforehand
[15:47] <bdmurray> Is the one where the rules change every year?
[15:48] <cyphermox> the rules don't change every year in riichi mahjong (the japanese one, not the american one)
[15:48] <cyphermox> (that's all AOB for me)
[15:52] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jul 12 15:52:30 2018 UTC.
[15:52] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-07-12-15.03.moin.txt
[15:52] <slangasek> thanks, all!
[17:02] <wxl> !ops
[21:20] <tsimonq2> XD