[12:47] <cmaloney> Good morning, fellow travelers
[12:47] <cmaloney> how's the morning so far?
[12:49] <rick_h_> sleepy
[12:49] <rick_h_> I should not have stayed up so late
[12:49] <cmaloney> Playing Skyrim?
[12:50] <rick_h_> a little bit
[12:50] <rick_h_> but honestly just hung out and didn't go to bed
[12:50] <rick_h_> that whole "quiet time" at night sucks you in
[12:50] <cmaloney> I know days like that well
[12:50] <rick_h_> the boy is in bed, the dogs worn out and napping
[12:50] <cmaloney> especially when it gets cool out
[12:51] <rick_h_> just don't want to end the peace and spoil it with sleep
[12:51] <cmaloney> Naturally
[12:51] <cmaloney> how's the pupper situation?
[12:51] <rick_h_> picked up an RC car yesterday and spent some time researching upgrades/mods to do to it :)
[12:51] <rick_h_> she's good. Vet checked out yesterday and getting glowing reviews from everyone
[12:51] <cmaloney> Nice!
[12:51] <rick_h_> just work, and chaos, and work
[12:52] <cmaloney> re: RC car - batteries or gas?
[12:52] <rick_h_> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Q1YCQnMUxqvQSTt99
[12:52] <rick_h_> battery car, got my first lipo battery for it
[12:52] <cmaloney> nice!
[12:53] <rick_h_> yea, pretty fun
[12:53] <rick_h_> I reallyh want to get one of these rock crawler things
[12:53] <cmaloney> PLanning on bringing that for the vacation?
[12:53] <rick_h_> https://youtu.be/ZTV_llRm--k?t=539
[12:53] <rick_h_> Yea, definitely think this is a camping toy to bring
[12:54] <rick_h_> see if I can get the boy into wrenching/mod'ing the thing
[12:54] <cmaloney> INdeed
[12:54] <cmaloney> so, when's the model airplanes? :)
[12:54] <cmaloney> that's usually the natural progression. ;)
[12:54] <rick_h_> airplanes scare me. I don't like driving what I can't see
[12:55] <rick_h_> the drone is hard enough and it has a camera on it and hovers and gps mapping/etc
[12:55] <cmaloney> Silly Rick, it's not about flying them
[12:55] <cmaloney> I think JoDee's dad only flew a handful of the ones that he built
[12:58] <cmaloney> But yeah, learning how RC cars work is pretty sweet. And yeah, the modding stuff is fascinating
[12:58] <cmaloney> I had one of those cheap RC cars from Radio Shack and still had a lot of fun with it
[12:58] <cmaloney> until the antenna broke on the transmitter and I couldn't manage to get it to work right ever again
[13:19] <cmaloney> Photos from PyOhio 2017 are up: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikepirnat/sets/72157693157734770
[14:05] <brousch> The back of my head made it into several pictures!
[14:17] <rick_h_> I like this one https://flic.kr/p/26igqg9
[14:17] <rick_h_> :P
[14:29] <cmaloney> I like that one too
[14:29] <cmaloney> https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikepirnat/29484723998/in/photostream/ < this one is where I tell everyone there's no Santa Claus
[14:30] <cmaloney> https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikepirnat/28485434767/in/photostream/ <- THis is where I drop the beat
[14:30] <greg-g> also tired this morning. I accidentaly had non-decaf yesterday (forgot to say decaf on my iced latte). Was up until about 3am. :/
[14:30] <rick_h_> :)
[14:31] <cmaloney> I like this one as well: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikepirnat/28484404027/
[14:31] <brousch> So fancy!
[14:33] <widox_>  morning
[14:33] <greg-g> rick_h_: I got this for Rowan this xmas. It's awesome and fun: https://www.horizonhobby.com/ruckus-1-18-4wd-monster-truck--black-red-rtr-ecx01000t1
[14:33] <widox_> wow, rick_h_ dressing up!
[14:34] <rick_h_> working on my marketing :P
[14:34] <rick_h_> "the fish was thiiiiis biiiiiig"
[14:34] <greg-g> rick_h_: and my dad got him this plane, which is even more awesome because it can correct itself mid-flight if you push a button, and the controller has 3 levels, beginner/inter/advanced which has increasing degrees of freedom (aka: beginner won't let you stall out): https://www.horizonhobby.com/product/airplanes/learn-to-fly-on-my-own/trainer/sport-cub-s-rtf-with-safe-reg%3B-technology-hbz4400
[14:35] <rick_h_> greg-g: oooooh
[14:35] <cmaloney> greg-g: nice
[14:36] <greg-g> both great intro to the hobby choices, if I may say so myself :)
[14:36] <greg-g> (my dad has something like 4 RC planes)
[14:37] <cmaloney> I think they're like cats
[14:37] <rick_h_> we picked up this thing yesterday https://traxxas.com/products/models/electric/58024slash
[14:37] <cmaloney> (as a crazy cat lady at the cat practice explained it)
[14:37] <cmaloney> it goes something like 1, 2, all
[14:39] <greg-g> cmaloney: :) :)
[14:42] <greg-g> rick_h_: let me know when you've taken it mostly apart (drivetrain and all) the first time, and if you get it back together OK :P I did some in-hobby-shop wrenching with the boy for our first repair, walking up to the counter with the truck a couple times "uhhh, I'm confused by this" :)
[14:42] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, I was looking last night at the low CG body you can get and seems fun to take it kinda-apart to get it updated
[14:43] <greg-g> not having all the right tools from the outset was a mistake (mostly tiny size wrench and alan wrench)
[14:43] <brousch> Now you'll need a 3d printer to design and make your own parts
[14:46] <rick_h_> yea, I saw the little kits and laughed "I have all the tools!" and then saw some YT video mentioning a 1.5mm hex and went...oh hmmmm
[14:46] <greg-g> brousch: once I have a freaking hobby/tool corner in some building that's the... third? thing I'm getting (after a real upright toolbox and a good work table)
[14:47]  * greg-g dreams of midwest house/basement/backyard/garage sizes
[14:47] <greg-g> stupid most expensive place in the world
[14:47] <brousch> The problem becomes balancing your 3d printing hobby with the hobby you are using it for
[14:47] <rick_h_> greg-g: hah, it's still not big enough!
[14:47] <rick_h_> I need my shed out back...mini-pole barn
[14:47] <greg-g> Have I told you lately that the bay area is stupid? :P I'm so wishing for a crash soon (sorry for any fallout! ;) )
[14:48] <rick_h_> hah, I just finally have equity!
[14:48] <rick_h_> don't take it away from me
[14:48] <rick_h_> it's funding my bathroom remodel
[14:49] <greg-g> oh, in other fun news: I may have convinced my wife that we need an f-250/some 3/4 ton truck to do our travel plans (20ish foot trailer plus slide in truck camper as a mobile office). The numbers were pretty tight, payload wise, with a halfton truck
[14:49] <brousch> And my roof repairs!
[14:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: +100
[14:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: too many folks squeeze a half ton into that work vs doing it with some buffer
[14:49]  * greg-g has a spreadsheet, of course
[14:50] <rick_h_> greg-g: did you look at vans?
[14:50] <rick_h_> greg-g: I am seeing a lot of folks with smaller trailers going the van route to have more cargo space enclosed/etc and seems to be a sweet setup
[14:51] <cmaloney> We had a van when my parents did camping. it was quite nice
[14:52] <cmaloney> but we were also limited on the trailer size we could have because of where it was stored (side of my parents house isn't that long  / wide)
[14:52] <greg-g> yeah, considering that as well, but those are $$$ and not quickly converterable to having a work area (table+chair/bench that I can sit at with my kinesis and laptop, mostly) unless you throw more money at it. We can find an old f-250 for around $5k. The cost difference will more than pay for the gas consumption difference :)
[14:52] <rick_h_> yea, and since small trailers are horrible for storage space it seems great to have room for the bins for tools/water stuff/etc
[14:53] <rick_h_> greg-g: gotcha, yea all depends on requirements/what you can get for sure
[14:53] <cmaloney> just be careful with trucks. SOme of them have had rather tough lives pulling stumps and what-not
[14:53] <rick_h_> hey, I've only pulled one stump out with mine :P
[14:53] <cmaloney> heh
[14:54] <cmaloney> I'm surprised it didn't put out robotic arms and just dig it out
[14:54] <cmaloney> seems like it would be an option on that model
[14:54] <rick_h_> hey, I've got an old paid off truck now
[14:54] <rick_h_> none of this fancy "adaptive cruise control" or "self parking assist" crap :P
[14:55] <rick_h_> though I do want to see what it would take to get a new head unit that does android auto on it
[14:55] <rick_h_> I still haven't gotten my 2018 map update to install...and it's july
[15:07] <rick_h_> greg-g: that plane looks so cool
[15:07] <rick_h_> maybe I do need a rock crawler and a plane...and maybe a helicoptor
[15:07]  * rick_h_ wonders if I can get the wife to agree to add addition to the house for an RC garage
[15:08] <greg-g> :) :) :)
[15:08] <greg-g> rick_h_: it's a cool ass trainer
[15:08] <rick_h_> yea, that video is cool with the different modes/etc on it
[15:09] <rick_h_> I'm just cheering it on "do a barrel roll!"
[15:33] <cmaloney> rick_h_: What happened to the white beast?
[15:33]  * cmaloney is really behind in his knowledge of rick_h_
[17:17] <cmaloney> Apparently Guido is stepping down as BDFL
[17:19] <rick_h_> yea, that's kind of big
[17:19] <rick_h_> will be curious how that moves forward
[17:20] <cmaloney> same
[17:22] <brousch> So he died?
[17:22] <rick_h_> no, he just got tired
[17:22] <brousch> But for life!
[17:41] <greg-g> 1https://www.mail-archive.com/python-committers@python.org/msg05628.html
[17:41] <greg-g> -1
[19:18] <waldo323> BDFL doesn't say whose life, could mean life span of time as BD I guess?
[20:42] <jrwren> python has good stewards.
[21:16] <cmaloney> Yeah, this shouldn't be worrying
[21:16] <cmaloney> more worrisome is that Guido is burning out
[21:50] <jrwren> i think he's been that way for a while.
[21:51] <jrwren> extending 2.7 support for 5 additional years was the first sign of giving up.