[00:02] <neeeeeem> how many people's alive here?
[00:04] <tomreyn> > 0
[00:04] <oerheks> maybe ..
[00:04] <Sean_McG> indeed.
[00:05] <neeeeeem> huh
[00:05] <neeeeeem> how come all the big servers are dead
[00:05] <oerheks> how would that be an ubuntu issue?
[00:05] <neeeeeem> it isn't
[00:05] <Sean_McG> they're reeling after England's loss to Croatia
[00:05] <Sean_McG> but I digress..
[00:10] <mtdms> i cant install swift :( in my ubuntu
[00:10] <neeeeeem> swift?
[00:11] <mtdms> i wanna program for iphone
[00:11] <neeeeeem> what have you tried
[00:11] <neeeeeem> why an iphone?
[00:11] <neeeeeem> why not android?
[00:11] <mtdms> java?
[00:11] <neeeeeem> you'd need propretary apple software to even upload your code either way
[00:11] <neeeeeem> pretty sure apple uses objectc
[00:12] <oerheks> there is #swift-lang here on #freenode
[00:12] <mtdms> thanks
[00:29] <CyborgSmurf> i have 2 PCs that are exactly the same and with the same peripherals one goes to the native res of 1920x1080 and the other uses the res of 1024x768 ... why??
[00:33] <oerheks> CyborgSmurf, unlogical, except the monitor might have adjusted settings, reset them with its own menu
[00:33] <oerheks> else RMA
[00:42] <CyborgSmurf> is acpi or acpi_off an option that is always safe?
[00:46] <oerheks> it could explain that behaviour
[00:47] <oerheks> if you want to overrule the basic detected settings, acpi=off is oke
[00:48] <oerheks> but it can prevent fans from blowing too..
[00:54] <Bashing-om> CyborgSmurf: You will find http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html instructional - if a laptop .
[01:04] <sonicwind> that's one helluva link, Bashing-om. Bookmarked for future reference.
[01:04] <oerheks> indeed, should be an chapter in the ubuntu manual
[01:05] <Bashing-om> sonicwind: The one who wrote it ... knows his stuff :)
[01:05] <sonicwind> no kidding
[01:06] <Bashing-om> sonicwind: Another work reading up on is Rod Smith .
[01:06] <sonicwind> I tested that one command in it to see what results I got on this system. It came back with 5 prior versions of Windows.
[01:07] <Bashing-om> sonicwind: And from that ^ you know the drill :P try em and see which does the better .
[01:07] <oerheks> i have a sealed copy of 95 ..
[01:07] <sonicwind> so far as I know, everything works on mine
[01:11] <sonicwind> is that your site, Bashing-om ??
[01:12] <spicey> hello , i have a question related to my vps, for which runs ubuntu server 14.04
[01:14] <spicey> i run for wordpress websites, for one i want to install a ham radio logbook pluging. I want to use a terminal based logbook, but i dont know where to put it: on my vps, or on my desktop pc?
[01:14] <spicey> four wordpress  sites i meant
[01:15] <spicey> you can only add records to the logbook using the terminal
[01:16] <spicey> then the log file can be uploaded to the related wp plugin, so that the logbook eventually will show on my website
[01:19] <Bashing-om> sonicwind: Uh Uhhh ! TJ- .. I am not :P
[01:21] <spicey> is there someone out there to help this Young Lady out :p
[01:22] <sonicwind> lol
[01:23] <spicey> :p
[01:25] <mrproper> On Ubuntu Server, what is the package name which provides virt-install?
[01:25] <sonicwind> Bashing-om, he's got a nice page started on the boot process as well - http://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/
[01:28] <Bashing-om> sonicwind: Yepper :) One of these days he will have us with access to his server ..oh what joy.
[01:35] <tekisui> ● systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed    Load Kernel Modules
[01:35] <tekisui> how can i fix this ?
[01:35] <tekisui> :)
[01:37] <tomreyn> tekisui: what's you ubuntu release, what's your kernel version, installed how?
[01:38] <tekisui> lubuntu 16.04
[01:39] <tekisui> i thought it was a fault on the ssd disk
[01:40] <tekisui> tried to disable it in the bios
[01:42] <tekisui> is something with boot system ?
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> tekisui: we will need more details of whats happening mate
[01:43] <tekisui> UEFI Mode or legacy ??
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> tekisui: can you pastebin us some info of what you experience?
[01:43] <tekisui> hmm ok
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> tekisui: lubuntu up to date to .4? whats happening at wich point?
[01:44] <tekisui> just start up screen gives error
[01:44] <tekisui> the system seems to be working fine
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> tekisui: then what happens?
[01:44] <tekisui> well it works in a way
[01:44] <tekisui> but last time on lenovo laptop
[01:44] <tekisui> with intel system i messed up
[01:44] <tekisui> and broke the graphic card
[01:44] <tekisui> so this time got amd pc
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> tekisui: please dont mix 2 storys in 1 problem
[01:45] <tekisui> ok..
[01:45] <tekisui> is just an error message seems serious
[01:45] <tekisui> will look a bit more into it myself
[01:45] <tekisui> thanks :)
[01:45] <tomreyn> !paste | tekisui
[01:48] <HaMsTeRs> Does anyone know any word processing better than WPS, Libre, and OpenOffice?  I tried all of them, all of them couldn't format my documents right.
[01:48] <tekisui> gedit
[01:48] <tekisui> perhaps :)
[01:48] <tekisui> ceau
[01:50] <HaMsTeRs> can't work on excel and ppt
[01:50] <HaMsTeRs> :)
[01:50] <HaMsTeRs> ceau
[01:51] <hdbii> Hey there -- Anyone know if Alpine Email Client has it's own IRC channel?
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> !alis | hdbii
[01:53] <hdbii> !alis
[02:04] <waterCreature> hi, i am following mongodb installation guide and dont quite understand what to do for this step. >> Copy these binaries into a directory listed in your PATH variable such as /usr/local/bin,
[02:05] <tomreyn> waterCreature: is there a reason you're not using the existing packages?
[02:06] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mongodb&exact=1
[02:06] <waterCreature> there is no specific reason
[02:07] <waterCreature> if i encounter such tgz file again
[02:07] <tomreyn> then i'd always prefer packages.
[02:07] <waterCreature> i would know what to do next time.
[02:08] <tomreyn> in case you seek newer releases than the ones in ubuntu (which do receive security patches, and a version stable), you could also use the upstream (mongodb.com) APT repository discussed at https://docs.mongodb.com/master/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/
[02:09] <tomreyn> (but they may not provide version stability.)
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> few mongo snaps out there too
[02:11] <guiver_d> waterCreature: fyi:  the instruction was telling you to `echo $PATH` & use a directory listed in that envionment variable such as /usr/local/bin/  -- but using supported packages are safer (stability wise, and have security updates backported to them as others have said)
[02:17] <pugthelouie> hello!
[02:17] <pugthelouie> i need help
[02:17] <zhill29> What up
[02:17] <pugthelouie> i need help with my Xorg installation
[02:17] <pugthelouie> i recently broke it (don't ask how, i don't even know)
[02:17] <pugthelouie> and what happened
[02:17] <pugthelouie> is every time i start
[02:17] <pugthelouie> "startx"
[02:17] <pugthelouie> it will load up
[02:17] <pugthelouie> go to a black screen
[02:18] <pugthelouie> and then quit out and say "Successfully exited (0"
[02:18] <pugthelouie> and then quit out and say "Successfully exited (0)"***
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> pugthelouie: startx is not the way to go anymore
[02:22] <pugthelouie> how do you start gdm
[02:22] <pugthelouie> also i'm using ubuntu gnome
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> pugthelouie: ubuntu version? details? whats happening at wich point
[02:22] <pugthelouie> i'm using Ubuntu Gnome 16 LTS
[02:22] <pugthelouie> and let me find the log
[02:22] <pugthelouie> i'll hatebin it
[02:22] <pugthelouie> hastebin**
[02:22] <pugthelouie> sorry this might take a sec
[02:22] <pugthelouie> i'm on windows trying to edit a partition that isnt ntfs :(
[02:22] <zhill29> Maybe try this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150319
[02:22] <pugthelouie> i've tried that zhill29
[02:23] <tomreyn> this sounds dangerous -> <pugthelouie> i'm on windows trying to edit a partition that isnt ntfs :(
[02:23] <pugthelouie> i can't do it with anything else
[02:23] <tomreyn> you can ;)
[02:23] <pugthelouie> i'll continue this tmr
[02:23] <pugthelouie> it's 12:00
[02:23] <pugthelouie> and i need sleeeeeep
[02:24] <tomreyn> ok
[02:24] <zhill29> Request help with problem 2 minutes before bed. Makes sense.
[02:34] <Stormmore> so I am trying to install Ubuntu a new laptop. Install works on fine with the laptop screen but on first boot the laptop screen goes black after the grub loader
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: wich ubuntu version please?
[02:34] <Stormmore> external display works; cannot get to virtual TTYs
[02:35] <Stormmore> 18.04
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: and wich graphics card chipset?
[02:35] <Stormmore> nvidia 1060
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> ah try nomodeset Stormmore
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Stormmore
[02:36] <Stormmore> yeah I tried that :-/
[02:36] <Stormmore> sorry I was still typing some of the steps I have tried
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: is this single boot ubuntu or dualboot?
[02:38] <Stormmore> I have also tried nouveau.nomodeset=1 too; multiple attempts at loadinng nvidia-390 and 396
[02:38] <Stormmore> lotuspsychje, keeping the problem as simple as possible :) straight up Ubuntu for this bad boy
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: i guess you also cant F1 at boot, to see text right?
[02:38] <Stormmore> lotuspsychje, correct
[02:39] <Stormmore> after the grub loader nothing but the back light is on
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: a recent iso also? wich kernel is booting?
[02:39] <oerheks> 1060 is pretty new, i think you need the driver ppa with newer 396
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[02:40] <Stormmore> this week, I am actually trying to get to the point I can test 4.18rc4
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: try what oerheks suggested first
[02:41] <Stormmore> I have :-/ with my nvidia drivers I always like the latest :-)
[02:41] <Stormmore> only went to 390 since 396 wasn't working
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> right
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: tryed another kernel to boot?
[02:42] <Stormmore> oh recovery boot work until I tell it to resume
[02:42] <Stormmore> the kernel in the ISO is .20 not .23
[02:43] <Stormmore> I am going to do a quick wipe and try without letting the installer updating to .23 because I vaguely remember the first boot working and then stop after I do an apt upgrade
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: try updating your system in the recoverymode
[02:43] <Stormmore> but that said I have installed 4.18rc4 once and was seeing the problem with it too
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: try also sudo apt purge nvidia* from recovery, sometimes that works falling back to nouveau to get in
[02:44] <Stormmore> I see this problem before I even install the nvidia driver
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: yeah depends wich driver ubuntu chosen
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: did you enable updates during setup?
[02:45] <tomreyn> this may be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1705369 if you fancy reading bug reports
[02:45] <abdulhakeem_> are the mirrors down?
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> abdulhakeem_: details please?
[02:46] <abdulhakeem_> can't install a package, can't reach archive.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <abdulhakeem_> hmm well I can reach it in a browser
[02:46] <abdulhakeem_> must be my server
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> abdulhakeem_: works on my side..
[02:46] <abdulhakeem_> yeah I think it's me
[02:47] <abdulhakeem_> I'm overloading my poor 100mbps network
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> abdulhakeem_: please only ubuntu questions here
[02:47] <abdulhakeem_> it was
[02:47] <abdulhakeem_> then I determined it wasn't an ubuntu problem
[02:48] <oerheks> how would a poor network be an ubuntu issue?
[02:48] <Stormmore> it is the nouveau initially
[02:48] <abdulhakeem> it's not an ubuntu issue
[02:48] <abdulhakeem> at first I thought it was
[02:48] <abdulhakeem> then I determined it wasn't
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Stormmore: Not sure what is going on presently ,,. but seeing a rash of 1st boot - black screen. Many report that installing with no internet connectuion .. and then updating afterward works .
[02:48] <abdulhakeem> then everyone lived happily ever after
[02:48] <sung> soo -- quick q re preseed configs -- i'm trying to build one and it works pretty well so far for an automated install, however, the installer hops out of automated mode and asks me what to name the user even tho 'd-i passwd/user-fullname' is configured correctly
[02:49] <Stormmore> tomreyn, that actually gives me sommething new to look / try. Wayland :-/
[02:49] <tomreyn> Stormmore: with the greatest pleasure! ;-)
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: nvidia 1060, black screen after grub, cant get in with all drivers test
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> sung: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[02:54] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Seen a lot of threads on fresh installs on the forum where the re-boot goes to a black screen . many report that not updateing ( no internet connection) and the install succeeds .
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: one to try ^
[02:55] <Stormmore> already on it ;-) wanted to start with a clean install after all the different attempts I have made so far
[02:55] <Bashing-om> Stormmore: Also make sure that secure boot and fast boot are disabled .
[02:55] <waterCreature> may I ask questions related to REHL here? :'
[02:55] <Stormmore> totally and I disabled TPM too
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> waterCreature: only ubuntu support mate
[02:57] <Stormmore> waterCreature, try #centos since they are more compatible with RHEL than Ubuntu every will be
[02:58] <Stormmore> install done :)
[02:59] <Bashing-om> Stormmore: Hook up internet, update .. and then advise status please :)
[03:00] <Stormmore> so before I do that... I am not seeing the grub menu or anything per login other than back light flashing a couple of times.
[03:01] <Bashing-om> Stormmore: If a single boot install . by default the grub menu is not presented .
[03:02] <Stormmore> Bashing-om, that makes sense but I should see the splash
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Stormmore: Yeah -- should see the splash screen ,,maybe give it some more time ?
[03:07] <Stormmore> Bashing-om, I have reboot a few times and no splash screen
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: wich kernel is this now?
[03:07] <Stormmore> 4.15.0.20
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: you didnt update?
[03:08] <Stormmore> oh and setting nomodeset makes it only do 800x600 :-/
[03:08] <Stormmore> not yet
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[03:09] <Stormmore> I am going to just update the kernel and it's dependencies first
[03:09] <zhill29_> Would this be the wrong place to ask about using ZFS in ubuntu?
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: keep your system up to date at all times, not only kernel
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> !zfs | zhill29_
[03:10] <Stormmore> normally I do but I already know that something updated is causing me loose my screen
[03:10] <Stormmore> I need to narrow down the suspects
[03:11] <zhill29_> lotusbsychje That is the guide I used to try to set up. It worked in a test VM I tried but on my ubuntu server install I keep getting either /dev/sdg1 or /dev/sdf1 busy error.
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> zhill29_: try the #ubuntu-server channel
[03:12] <zhill29_> will do, thanks
[03:13] <Stormmore> wow that last build I saw the splash for a split sec, dang this system boots fast~
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> Stormmore: getting in now?
[03:14] <Stormmore> only once after I remove the nomodeset for now so I got a decent res
[03:15] <pavon> hi
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> pavon: welcome, how can we help you?
[03:17] <pavon> i searching any spanish opensource project
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> pavon: the ubuntu channels, only provide ubuntu related support
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> pavon: perhaps a question for ##linux ?
[03:18] <pavon> where is the channels
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> pavon: we have spanish ubuntu channel, to ask ubuntu questions
[03:19] <pavon> what is the "#" for the spanish channel
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> pavon: but your question is not really ubuntu related..
[03:21] <pavon> i dont now where ask, that is the problem. Ok i go to the #linux. Thanks
[03:25] <Stormmore> so as I suspected just updating the kernel caused the problem
[03:27] <Dreaman> my problem is network
[03:27] <Dreaman> 5 restart to work
[03:29] <skinux> Why the hell does clock indicator keep disappearing? It started when I changed format to non-UTC
[03:35] <Stormmore> for giggles I installed the 390 from the normal repos and boy it looks pretty on my 4k but nothing on my laptop display still :-/
[03:56] <eraserpencil> I'm on an x86 computer, but my repos :q
[03:56] <eraserpencil> ls
[03:58] <oerheks> but my repos ..
[04:08] <Stormmore> I am seriously pondering breaking open the initrds for both the working and non-working kernel, this is suppose to be a mainline test machine
[04:10] <TiZ> Hello there. I've been having problems with my kernel upgrades. I have the nvidia driver installed and it's a UEFI system that has secure boot. 16.04 would always bother me to turn off secure boot but the modules were signed with the MOK, so I never had a problem with it. The kernel upgrades always freeze up. pstree on dpkg shows update-secureboot-policy and whiptail stalled. It seems like whiptail is trying to show me something but is f
[04:11] <TiZ> I have an Ask Ubuntu question open for this issue with only one answer that didn't correct the issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1052000/all-kernel-upgrades-hang-on-update-secureboot-policy-enroll-key/
[04:17] <TiZ> It kind of seems like what it comes down to is that whiptail is broken in some way, at least when run through dpkg. When I invoke whiptail just in my regular shell, it works though.
[04:20] <killatay> My laptap webcam is not showing up in cheese of skype. When I do dmesg it shows "2.666127] usb 3-3: Product: Lenovo EasyCamera
[04:20] <killatay> " any ideas?
[04:23] <eraserpencil> I am on an x86 computer, but when I do sudo apt-update, I get https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GSvpM7KFgX/. However, if i "cd /etc/apt" and ran "grep -rni arm", I get back no results. Would there be another place where apt searches for sources like in a .config or .cache or .apt in /var or /home or /usr?
[04:32] <Stormmore> ok an update, used boot-repair and now I am running 4.17.5 kernel and the laptop screen is on but at 640x480. purging the default nvidia driver and installing 396
[04:32] <oerheks> eraserpencil, so you put an amd64 bit install in a i386 machine, and wonder what happens?
[04:33] <Jackass420> So I came here.
[04:33] <Jackass420> Anybody wanna help an archvist?
[04:33] <eraserpencil> oerheks, im lost
[04:33] <Jackass420> I'm looking for rare distros
[04:35] <debouncer> Build your own distro and called it rareOS
[04:36] <Jackass420> Well that was embarrassing.\
[04:36] <Jackass420> So doesn't anybody here know?
[04:36] <knightwise> Jackass420: what do you mean by rare ?
[04:37] <Jackass420> I was kinda looking for an all in one website before I tried looking for individual ISO files.
[04:37] <oerheks> if you feel ignored, that could be true
[04:37] <knightwise> Jackass420: Distrowatch ?
[04:37] <knightwise> hey oerheks , morning
[04:37] <eraserpencil> Jackass420: https://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=links#new
[04:37] <Jackass420> For instance a chinese version of DouDou might have been released. I want it.
[04:37] <knightwise> you're up early
[04:37] <Stormmore> ok and now I have X on my external monitor but can access vTTYs!
[04:37] <knightwise> Jackass420: you have strange tastes
[04:38] <oerheks> distro talk in ##linux please this is technical ubuntu support, thanks
[04:38] <Jackass420> I'm looking for some rare distros that aren't maintained anymore. Okay
[04:38] <eraserpencil> sorry, oerheks, could you elaborate?
[04:39] <oerheks> eraserpencil,  you have both sources, 32 and 64 bit, so i wonder what you are doing.
[04:39] <T3ss> Hi all, this should be simple, but I can't figure it out. I've created an ext4 partition on /dev/sdb1, I've added /dev/sdb1    /awg    ext4    defaults    0    0 to my fstab. I've sudo mkdir'd /awg - but when I type sudo mount /awg it says the mount point is busy. #lsof /awg reports nothing has it locked.
[04:41] <oerheks> T3ss, normally one would mount partitions in /mnt/  or in free /media/
[04:42] <T3ss> oerheks: true, but even changing the details to /mnt/awg and creating that mount point gave the same.
[04:42] <oerheks> is that sdb1 clean? you could see with a fsck
[04:43] <eraserpencil> oerheks, i dont think I have 32 bit running. I do have arm64 and amd64 bit running though. What happened is I used my computer to flash an Nvidia board through an Nvidia installer. What I guess happened is that the installer added the arm64 sources to how apt would search for repos.
[04:43] <T3ss> It says it's already mounted or the mount point is busy.
[04:43] <T3ss> oerheks: fsck says it can't continue because it's mounted. But umount /dev/sdb1 says it isn't mounted
[04:44] <eraserpencil> I'm now looking at how to remove those arm64 links to the path apt searches. I've looked at /etc/apt, but couldnt find any references
[04:46] <oerheks> i think that tool used dpkg --add-architecture arm64  .. see with  dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[04:46] <oerheks> not sure howto remove that... reinstall i guess
[04:47] <warison> lol
[04:47] <warison> remove what?
[04:50] <oerheks> or maybe that ROS ppa did this, cross compiler
[04:56] <warison> as i was saying
[05:01] <warison> i fuck back
[05:01] <warison> so easy
[05:01] <warison> ghost ship government genocide
[05:02] <warison> Flint Michigan government disbanded the town due to mind virus
[05:02] <warison> why won't you fbi leave me be?
[05:02] <DalekSec> warison: Hello.  This is not the channel for that.  This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[05:02] <warison> you all do more damage than repair
[05:02] <warison> cia told me to talk here
[05:02] <warison> fuck you
[05:03] <DalekSec> warison: I somehow doubt that, but please stop.
[05:03] <warison> when the gaslighting stops
[05:03] <oerheks> !ops | warison
[05:03] <oerheks> you had your chance in ##linux, not here
[05:06] <T3ss> oerheks: I found out that device-mapper had the partition in its grasp. So I had to dmsetup remove <name>. Then mount said the fs was wrong, so I reformatted and we're good now. Thanks
[05:07] <oerheks> T3ss, oh good find.
[05:11] <warison> lol
[05:12] <warison> you guys never intended me to reunite with my friends. you want me homeless then dead
[05:13] <Zi0nEl> hey Buntu SUPPORT, Gots Yah A Question If Any of You Might Be Able To help resolve it And Contribute To Makeing a Mo Coherent Linux At The Self Sane Tine
[05:14] <Zi0nEl> Be Right Back
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[05:19] <Zi0nEl>  As ROOT and just dumps root sessions tog
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[05:21] <Zi0nEl> so The idea Would Be to Give an Variable Configurable in Bash\ssh\sshd That Would Designate pts// To n user
[05:23] <Zi0nEl> thus every root session is assigned to per user via your pts assignment! you Got it Right Here
[05:26] <Zi0nEl> if i Logout ir loose a Connection and another login Then that pts is open and the next login that does sudo su-su root will begin to overwrite m Bzash History And That is Problematic Besides pts/0 is Really Quite leet on Server
[05:27] <Zi0nEl> well atleast Ani Think So
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[05:47] <Zi0nEl> exit
[06:17] <Stormmore> best I can say is I learned more about 18.04, and there is always tomorrow
[06:22] <Guest56595> .
[06:22] <Guest56595> .
[06:22] <Guest56595> ....
[06:51] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:52] <silv3r_m00n> i just upgraded to ubuntu 18.04 and i see that everything has smooth scrolling. how can i disable that and get the 3 line scroll ?
[06:58] <silv3r_m00n> anybody there ?
[06:59] <ducasse> there are people here, but it's still kind of early for some of us
[07:00] <silv3r_m00n> i see. no problem
[07:00] <waterCreature> how do i find a file by name?
[07:00] <waterCreature> I did find . -name "nameol*"
[07:00] <waterCreature> but no result...
[07:00] <silv3r_m00n> waterCreature: probably recursive flag
[07:01] <ducasse> 'find' is recursive by default
[07:01] <Mr_Pan> waterCreature,    find /  -name namefile*
[07:02] <ducasse> or try 'locate'. if the file is in the database it's much quicker.
[07:02] <waterCreature> find: ‘/proc/19547’: No such file or directory
[07:02] <Mr_Pan> waterCreature, with  sudo ...
[07:02] <cypector> watercreature locate works as well
[07:03] <cypector> you dont need sudo
[07:03] <waterCreature> same result
[07:03] <cypector> with locate?
[07:03] <waterCreature> locate gives no result also
[07:04] <cypector> you are typing 'locate <fileName>
[07:04] <cypector> you are typing 'locate <fileName>'
[07:04] <waterCreature> locate "nameol*"
[07:05] <ducasse> try with locate -i filename
[07:06] <waterCreature> do i need to know the full filename?
[07:06] <cypector> your not using quotes are you
[07:06] <cypector> no
[07:06] <cypector> not with locate
[07:07] <waterCreature> http://pasteall.org/pic/cb01b99beff9d5b43cab76f42949f1ce
[07:08] <ducasse> waterCreature: drop the '*'
[07:08] <waterCreature> same result
[07:09] <cypector> oh and when you use the find command you dont need -name
[07:09] <waterCreature> http://pasteall.org/pic/c839dafa3c0d265a95cdd8d4455f8fed
[07:12] <cypector> you have "find . -name nameol" you need "find nameol" if you cant find it there use "locate nameol" you should get a result
[07:13] <waterCreature> i got a lot of results using find . nameol
[07:14] <ducasse> or use find -iname to make the search case insensitive
[07:16] <cypector> thats why i said use locate it will tell you anywhere it might be and case doesnt matter
[07:18] <ducasse> locate is case sensitive unless you use -i
[07:19] <cypector> anyone get airmoggedon working on ubuntu "i may have spelled that wrong"
[07:21] <cypector> i have been trying and the dependencies dont all work I am chasing my tail i install what is needed but not everything seems to be working
 either way not needed in this case you are right though
[07:27] <waterCreature> sigh
[07:29] <cypector> waterCreature did everything work?
[07:29] <waterCreature> nothing worked...
[07:30] <cypector> what are you trying to do exactly
[07:30] <waterCreature> install informix server
[07:31] <waterCreature> this is my third time installing it coz I think I may have missed some username password specification step
[07:31] <cypector> on a VM or physical machine?
[07:32] <waterCreature> on VM
[07:33] <waterCreature> I can just delete the Vm and recreate.... but still
[07:33] <cypector> some os dont work so well on a hypervisor you know
[07:33] <cypector> kali for example
[07:34] <waterCreature> after I delete the /opt/informix folder manually
[07:34] <waterCreature> it seems to work, "okay"
[07:35] <cypector> informix...what is it for? i havent used it before
[07:36] <waterCreature> it's a database.
[07:36] <waterCreature> afaik
[07:36] <waterCreature> i feel like quitting this job because of the architecture of this project
[07:36] <waterCreature> and the people
[07:38] <cypector> this is for an employer? what is it you do
[07:41] <waterCreature> what...
[07:41] <waterCreature> received a DCC chat
[07:41] <waterCreature> what is that?
[07:42] <ducasse> waterCreature: i got one too, just ignore it
[07:42] <waterCreature> okay
[07:43] <taladris> Hi. Anyone able to help me? I'm having an issue getting a raid to re-mount after a power outage.
[07:43] <taladris> "mount: /mnt/md0: can't read superblock on /dev/md0."
[08:14] <uebera||> With netplan (on Ubuntu 18.04), are "nameservers:" settings ignored when using dhcp4/dhcp6? Shouldn't the "search:", "addresses:" entries put into /etc/resolv.conf? (Note: "renderer" is networkd, I've deactivated/masked NetworkManager.service)
[08:32] <anli> apt-cache policy git shows that I run 1:2.17.0-1ubuntu1, is that a version that is modified for ubuntu?
[08:32] <anli> Or certified by ubuntu?
[08:33] <anli> The version table for git shows that the webserver returned status 500
[08:36] <ducasse> anli: no, it does not - the 500 is the priority of the package from that repository
[08:40] <anli> ah, ok
[08:41] <anli> If I have a script of apt commands that forces packages each to a certain version, will that script stop to work after a while? Like the packages are removed when old or something.
[08:44] <ducasse> you shouldn't depend on a particular version of a package remaining in the repo, no (unless if you maintain that repo yourself). as new versions are added the older are removed.
[08:45] <anli> Is there an archive repo that holds older versions?
[08:45] <anli> archive.org maybe :)
[08:46] <anli> I try to address the problem of software needing exact versions to build
[08:46] <anli> Or the fact that a command can have got bugs from a certain version and on
[08:47] <anli> The strategy today is to always have the newest version of software and libraries, which fails constantly
[08:47] <Rainyaviel> anli: Hello
[08:48] <sa_> I've an ubuntu box, suddenly ssh with hostname fails with "ssh: Could not resolve hostname <hname> Name or service not known", any clue?
[08:48] <Rainyaviel> anli: I am reading what you are saying and see if I can offer input
[08:48] <anli> Helli Rainyaviel!
[08:48] <anli> oops
[08:48] <anli> hello
[08:48] <qwebirc80778> Hi. When I try to 'make prepare' in '/lib/modules/<kernel>/build', make throws 'No rules to make target ../syscall_32.tbl' Help!
[08:48] <anli> (happy that I was not writing hell)
[08:49] <Rainyaviel> anli: You must have asked questions before and didn't get an answer it would be tough to read back what was your original question
[08:51] <Rainyaviel> anli: I am asking you to ask the question again ?
[08:52] <Shabbysheik> sa_: have you added the box in question to the /etc/hosts file of your pc?
[08:54] <sa_> Shabbysheik: I've not modified /etc/hosts file, just checked with ls -l command "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 220 Nov 15  2017 /etc/hosts"
[08:55] <Shabbysheik> sa_: then you just need to add your ubuntu box to your hosts file and you are all set
[08:55] <Rainyaviel> You should never randomly edit that file sa_
[08:56] <Shabbysheik> why not?
[08:56] <Shabbysheik> that file is where you define your hosts
[08:56] <Rainyaviel> He can't access by IP?
[08:57] <Rainyaviel> Or is this too make sure there is a friendlier name to access locally?
[08:57] <Shabbysheik> im sure he can, but he wants to use names, that is where you define them
[08:58] <sa_> I can ssh with ip, but only it is failing with hostname(earlier it used to work)
[08:58] <Rainyaviel> You can edit .ssh/config
[09:00] <Rainyaviel> sa_: Do you need to know the syntax for .ssh/config?
[09:00] <sa_> Rainyaviel: yes please
[09:01] <Rainyaviel> sa_: man ssh_config
[09:02] <Ernst> I have a problem with my screens. I was earlier at my work so I installed steam. One of them 3D games good stuk. If I login as a guest the three screens in 0° is there no problem. If i change one of them, that screen goes weird. I am using 16.04 64, AMD screen (default Ubuntu driver). I there anyone here to help me? How can I solve this?
[09:04] <Rainyaviel> Ernst: I don't understand your question, and I got confused after I installed steam
[09:09] <Ernst> Rainyaviel, Steam games.
[09:11] <MysticReverie> Hi. Is there an option to make my windows 10 in vitual box constantly stay offline. never connect under any cirumstance?
[09:12] <deem> MysticReverie: Remove the ethernet adapter
[09:12] <Rainyaviel> haha
[09:12] <anli> Rainyaviel: The question was if there is a repo that holds historical versions
[09:13] <anli> (or archive is maybe the correct term)
[09:14] <Shabbysheik> anli: if it is older ubuntu pacakges you want then search launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:16] <ducasse> anli: the 'main' repo contains the version of the package that release was originally released with
[09:18] <anli> So its not an apt source then?
[09:18] <Rainyaviel> It's more about what server holds it
[09:19] <anli> yes, but if it is an apt source, you can specify which version you want to run by just running an apt command
[09:20] <Rainyaviel> anli: Have you actually visited launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:20] <Rainyaviel> And it hasn't accomplish what you looking for?
[09:21] <anli> If it is a historical apt source, then it is the solution to my question :)
[09:21] <Rainyaviel> I don't think I ever come across one distro, me being distro jumping, that actually hold code from back when
[09:22] <Rainyaviel> So for the source, you need apt source for programming purpose?
[09:22] <anli> I would prefer to just have a certain version of commands and libraries so I have a known state before building
[09:23] <Rainyaviel> launchpad.com
[09:23] <Shabbysheik> anli: so wget the package you want from launchpad and then dpkg to install, you are getting very hung up on this apt thing
[09:23] <anli> The thing is that I want to run a script that is resetting the system to that state
[09:23] <MysticReverie> deem,  but how about the wifi also?
[09:23] <anli> Also, if I already have the correct version, that script should not download anything
[09:23] <MysticReverie> are they easy to remove?
[09:25] <Shabbysheik> MysticReverie: if you remove the virtual interfaces like deem said then it will not be able to connect
[09:26] <Areisjie> ?
[09:27] <deem> MysticReverie: virtualbox does not care about how your host connects to the internet. Just remove all internet capable devices from your vm and you're good to go
[09:28] <MysticReverie> ok, i will try thanks
[09:28] <guiverc> anli: apt is built around using the latest packages; but if you want to build for a specific versions - why not package as a snap?  (libs etc are stored in the same ~squashfs & get used instead of systems...
[09:29] <Rainyaviel> You know, guiverc, I am glad you spoke
[09:29] <anli> On the contrary, you can specify the version of a package using apt
[09:29] <Rainyaviel> How other people who need help
[09:29] <Rainyaviel> I think this guy is waste of time
[09:30] <anli> thats rude, that comment is a waste of bandwidth
[09:31] <guiverc> yeah, you can add rules to require specific version (which create dep.issues that stop upgrades...) but it's not [in my opinion] why the dep rules were made
[09:31] <pragomer> am I seeing it right, that gthumb cannot tag photos with colors (like green, red, blue, yellow, aso) ?
[09:31] <Rainyaviel> Seems to me that you got a plenty of answers to use your brain, I understand where things can be confusing, but it doesn't seem you actually make an effort yourself
[09:32] <anli> I am confused about you answering without having an answer :)
[09:32] <ducasse> Rainyaviel: ok, keep comments like that to yourself, please
[09:32] <anli> Maybe my comment is like that as well
[09:32] <anli> It could not been said in a polite way, I think
[09:32] <Rainyaviel> anli: 04:46 < anli> I try to address the problem of software needing exact versions to build
[09:33] <Rainyaviel> 04:49 < Rainyaviel> anli: You must have asked questions before and didn't get an answer it would be tough to read back what was your original question
[09:33] <sa_> Deb packages can be pulled from repository URL’s mentioned in SourcesList. For e.g. I created a ‘hello’ dkms deb package and I see already there other ‘hello’ package exist in launchpad. Contents-wise both are different, but the package name is same. Is there any way to specify specifically pull from a particular repository URL while installing the package using “sudo apt-get install”?
[09:33] <anli> I know, it is hard to convey an idea in one sentence. What I want in more detail is to be able to build a certain piece of software with exact the same setup as another person that successfully built that software
[09:34] <Ernst> Rainyaviel: I understand I will rewrite my question. I am using 3 screen  standing them 90° (1080x1920) next to eachonder.
[09:34] <Ernst> Since I install Stream games software my screens in 90° will not let me login. If i login as a guest in 1920x1080 is there no problem. What happend that caused this problem and how can I solve it. So, I need those 3 screens working in 90°.
[09:34] <Rainyaviel> 05:12 < anli> Rainyaviel: The question was if there is a repo that holds historical versions
[09:35] <anli> That is still a good question, I can scroll up myself
[09:35] <oerheks> Rainyaviel,  so .. ""it would be tough to read back what was your original question" .. really?
[09:35] <Rainyaviel> 05:21 < Rainyaviel> I don't think I ever come across one distro, me being distro jumping, that actually hold code from back when
[09:35] <oerheks> please don copy paste, we all can read back
[09:37] <Rainyaviel> oerheks: If you actually reading, what's the meaning by 05:32 < ducasse> Rainyaviel: ok, keep comments like that to yourself, please
[09:39] <oerheks> exactly what you think it means, be helpfull.
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | Rainyaviel
[09:40] <Rainyaviel> 05:31 < Rainyaviel> Seems to me that you got a plenty of answers to use your brain, I understand where things can be confusing, but it doesn't seem you actually make an effort yourself
[09:40] <ducasse> Rainyaviel: this is not productive, please stop now
[09:40] <Rainyaviel> How is not, so I can understand?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> Rainyaviel: dont copy paste, as suggested
[09:41] <Rainyaviel> So copy and paste a record to ensure disturbs operators of the room
[09:43] <oerheks> No, you complained that you missed the question, now you turn it around, ..really, you are annoying.
[09:43] <ducasse> Rainyaviel: you are offtopic, stick to support issues. and if you can't help, be quiet.
[09:44] <oerheks> now we stop this discussion and get back to support, no more warnings.
[09:48] <Rainyaviel> So, I am annoying, I should be banned from the room
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> Rainyaviel: you can always ask one at #ubuntu-ops if you like
[09:49] <anli> Maybe you only need to be polite
[09:50] <Rainyaviel> anli: never
[09:50] <anli> lol
[09:51] <Rainyaviel> lotuspsychje: What proof do you have?\
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Rainyaviel does not understand
[09:51] <Rainyaviel> I personally don't want take things personal and focus on people who actually need help
[09:52] <Rainyaviel> lotuspsychje: 05:48 < Rainyaviel> So, I am annoying, I should be banned from the room
[09:56] <anli> You are still doing it.
[09:56] <tianx> ？？
[09:56] <tianx> who are you?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> tianx: can we help you?
[09:58] <tianx> what's this
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> !support | tianx
[10:01] <MysticReverie> I have 8gb ram, what would be the recommended ram allocation for windows 10 in virtual box?
[10:02] <anli> Is synaptic still software in use by most users?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> anli: we dont really take polls here, but yes many users use synaptic
[10:03] <anli> Take polls is the same as recommending people to not use old methods?
[10:06] <ppf> but was it ever 'most' ?
[10:06] <anli> I am only trying to find out if I am running outdated software ffs
[10:06] <amharris> I'm not sure how frequently the 'supported' list comes out for pre-built systems, but the list for Intel NUCs is fairly minimal.  I've been reading into Vega M driver support with 4.18, etc., but does anyone have an indication of when the Hades Canyon NUCs will be properly supported?
[10:09] <C3aa> g
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> C3aa: can we help you?
[10:10] <C3aa>  I wanted to join #machinelearning, my client stuck and sent g :D
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> C3aa: #ubuntu is for ubuntu support
[10:12] <MysticReverie> damn, windows 10 needs 20gb in virtual box to even install.  crazy.
[10:12] <MysticReverie> i only have about 23 gb space lol
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> MysticReverie: please language, also dont use this channel for storytelling
[10:13] <MysticReverie> sorry, i was maybe hinting for suggestions also
[10:13] <C3aa> dual boot :p
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> MysticReverie: there is a virtualbox channel if you want
[10:14] <MysticReverie> yes please
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> #vbox
[10:14] <MysticReverie> Thx
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> amharris: if you find a !bug please help yourself and the community and file it
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> amharris: a recent article came out, intel nucs are goodly supported on ubuntu now..so if you find a bug afterall let the community know
[10:21] <amharris> lotuspsychje: I don't have the hardware on hand.  A friend whom I've been slowly getting into OSS and software development is keen to get one and switch from Windows entirely, but the Hades/Vega chipset is so fresh on the market that support is scarce; so he's waiting until it's supported before getting one.
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> amharris: latest hardware might need latest kernels/ubuntu versions, keep an eye in !mainline #ubuntu+1 and !bug
[10:23] <amharris> lotuspsychje: Will do, thanks.  and there's this, of course: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=dffdef67370d0a445884a18c0bc7b20256085398
[10:28] <brym> anyone familiar with postfix?
[10:29] <amharris> brym: I'm no expert, and it's been a long time since I last used it, but what's up?
[10:30] <brym> running it on a vm through roundcube, and rc won't get past the virtual gateway
[10:30] <brym> i've allowed the vm on ufw, but it keeps throwing authentication errors
[10:30] <amharris> brym: It's a shame I don't have access to have a look at the config at work, as it's Ubuntu, Postfix, and Roundcube as the setup.
[10:31] <amharris> I'll have a think.
[10:31] <brym> much appreciated
[10:31] <Rainyaviel> brym: I am bit but it's been awhile
[10:32] <Rainyaviel> I got two servers running postfix
[10:32] <Rainyaviel> But, when I say awhile, I mean rougly a year
[10:33] <brym> the errors are mostly on the roundcube side if i'm honest. the installer itself. i tested sendmail earlier from terminal, and it works fine. rc says smtp doesn't accept authentication.
[10:33] <blackflow> brym: wait, postfix is running in the VM?
[10:33] <brym> yep
[10:33] <blackflow> and so is RoundCube?
[10:33] <brym> yep
[10:33] <Rainyaviel> I use roundcube
[10:33] <brym> all through the vm
[10:34] <blackflow> so roundcube has to be configured for smtp at 127.0.0.1 aka localhost?
[10:34] <Rainyaviel> k
[10:34] <brym> me too, but until now, always through cpanel
[10:34] <Rainyaviel> I c
[10:35] <Rainyaviel> blackflow: What is the MTA?
[10:35] <brym> blackflow: yes, and i've checked both config files, and they both contain the hostname and localhost
[10:35] <brym> mail transfer agent
[10:35] <amharris> brym: What are the authentication errors you're seeing, to be clear?
[10:36] <blackflow> brym: okay so I don't understand the error. what exactly is the error?
[10:37] <Rainyaviel> blackflow: Pastebin
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> !postfix | brym see also
[10:37] <brym> amharris: for smtp - authentication error. smtp doesn't support authentication. for imap: login failed from the virtual gateway. couldn't connect to localhost:143
[10:37] <Rainyaviel> blackflow: I will help you
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> Rainyaviel: stop that please
[10:38] <blackflow> brym: so did you actually configure postfix for sasl?
[10:38] <Rainyaviel> blackflow: What is important is your setup
[10:38] <ikonia> Rainyaviel: blackflow is not looking for help
[10:38] <blackflow> ikonia: ?
[10:38] <blackflow> oh... I got them on ignore.... lol what are they saying.
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: he was copy pasting everyone earlier
[10:39] <ikonia> blackflow: offering help over and over, just making it clear to shut the noise down
[10:39] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: yes, I'm aware
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[10:39] <Rainyaviel> ikonia: I wanted to help blackflow and you ask him to ignore me ikonia
[10:39] <Rainyaviel> That is, I would never see
[10:39] <ikonia> Rainyaviel: he isn't looking for help, and he ignored you for your behaviour earlier, drop the topic
[10:40] <Rainyaviel> He is using postfix
[10:40] <ikonia> correct he does use postfix
[10:40] <brym> blackflow: not specifically. i let apt install it, and stepped through a few items here: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-on-ubuntu-16-04
[10:40] <brym> blackflow: followed up to step 5, since i intended to use roundcube as opposed to s-nail
[10:40] <blackflow> brym: that tutorial doesn't seem to set up SASL (via Dovecot) and you need it. lemme see if RC can work without sasl
[10:41] <Rainyaviel> I understand what is happening
[10:41] <Rainyaviel> You guys shut me up, so crowds that ikonia knows can help
[10:41] <Rainyaviel> I got it
[10:41] <blackflow> brym: see if setting smtp_user and smtp_password to NULL will then not try authentication.
[10:42] <blackflow> brym: also, this might be more suitable in #ubuntu-server (I'm there)
[10:42] <brym> blackflow: hmm... good shout. i didn't consider that. for both negating authentication and #ubuntu-server :p
[10:43] <blackflow> brym: yeah, default config uses %u and %p from RC login credentials
[10:47] <brym> blackflow: excellent, smtp works now. than you! however, imap still has the same error. whether i include the domain name or not with user
[10:48] <blackflow> brym: that requires setting up Dovecot with proper userdb and passdb
[10:49] <brym> yeah, i tried apt for that last night, but it didn't find anything. i'll dig further for that. it's worth noting i did try mapping postfix to the vm's user account. but that threw an error too, so i commented it out for now.
[10:49] <brym> as part of the digital ocean steps
[10:50] <brym> when i ran postfix check, it told me the entry was unused
[10:50] <blackflow> brym: postfix is for SMTP, not IMAP, and you don't need auth for local usage (via localhost or with local sendmail binary)
[10:50] <gpaddis> #magento
[10:50] <brym> blackflow: ah, yeah that makes sense
[10:51] <blackflow> brym: but you do have to set it up to allow mynetworks (defining only localhost) and deny all else, OR... make it NOT accessible via public IP (actually, do AND, not OR, for better security)
[10:51] <blackflow> brym: #postfix is very helpful if you get stuck, and there's also #dovecot.
[10:53] <brym> blackflow: on AND not OR, yep, that's how I write most of my basic conditionals in JS. making sure all requirements are met.
[10:54] <sa___> Whenever I start Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the boot process gets stuck at "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility", what could be the reasons?
[10:56] <blackflow> brym: yah, but what I meant was, configure it both to listen only on 127.0.0.1, and to allow only 127.0.0.1 to send mail (for permit_mynetworks)
[10:57] <oerheks> sa___, looking at that error, is this a VM or bare metal?
[10:57] <brym> blackflow: got it. thanks again for your help/pointers
[10:57] <blackflow> brym: yw
[10:58] <amharris> brym: Ah, sorry, crushed by deadlines here.  Good to hear it's sorted. :-)
[10:59] <brym> amharris: no worries man. likewise here. it's not all the way sorted yet. but it's getting there :)
[11:00] <sa___> oerheks: No, it's not VM. Ubuntu running on x86 processor
[11:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> hey
[11:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> question, regarding system tray and Unity
[11:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> Unity 7, Ubuntu 18.04
[11:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> some apps (vokoscreen, qt, battle.net, wine) show system tray icons in the tray, some (Nicotine, pygtk)
[11:12] <ask-ygU5AP56> don't
[11:12] <ask-ygU5AP56> how to make the ones that don't, do?
[11:13] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: talk to their developers
[11:13] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, I think the app I refer to is not developed; it worked fine in 16.04
[11:13] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, so what's the issue, and how else can it be resolved, other than talking to the app developers?
[11:13] <ask-ygU5AP56> it did work in older version of Ubuntu
[11:14] <ppf> ask-ygU5AP56: well, if the program is dead and doesn't support the unity notification are then there's not much you can do
[11:14] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, yeah but unity notification, is that something special, or does it work via some generic bus?
[11:14] <ppf> you can dig up the source and fix it yourself if you are such inclined
[11:14] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, like mentioned, app like vokoscreen works fine
[11:14] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, sure, if it's an easy fix; it's a python app anyway
[11:15] <ask-ygU5AP56> ppf, vokoscreen hardly is a native Ubuntu app; neither is Battle.Net ran through wine
[11:15] <ask-ygU5AP56> both show icons fine.
[11:15] <ask-ygU5AP56> so, what do they have, that the nicotine app is missing?
[11:15] <ppf> they probably implement it correctly then
[11:15] <ppf> which the others don't
[11:16] <ask-ygU5AP56> what changed in Ubuntu Unity tray between 16.04 and 18.04 that made nicotine stop working, and the others continue?
[11:16] <ask-ygU5AP56> so what is it then, the implemented bit
[11:16] <ask-ygU5AP56> what's missing?
[11:16] <ppf> i don't know the applications, so i don't know that answer
[11:16] <ask-ygU5AP56> oh
[11:16] <ask-ygU5AP56> well, it's a generic tray like you mentioned
[11:16] <ask-ygU5AP56> it's an ubuntu tray question more so
[11:17] <tomreyn> unity is not supported on 18.04 here. we don't know, talk to the developers of the apps you are treying to get to work, and to the people wwho continue to maintain unity.
[11:17] <tomreyn> good luck!
[11:17] <effortDee> im on 16.04 any need for me to upgrade?
[11:17] <ask-ygU5AP56> tomreyn, where to talk about unity ?
[11:17] <ppf> effortDee: no
[11:17] <tomreyn> ask-ygU5AP56: i don't know, you can use alis to search IRC or use your web browser to search the web
[11:18] <tomreyn> !alis | ask-ygU5AP56
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> hi, i am running kubuntu, and gtk apps like gedit have no window border on kde desktop
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix this ?
[11:23] <independent> ikonia: I suppose to be banned
[11:23] <effortDee> thanks ppf
[11:23] <effortDee> i see people mentioning 17, 18 etc
[11:23] <effortDee> but i am so happy on ubuntu
[11:23] <effortDee> its amazing
[11:24] <independent> ikonia: ^^ your friends
[11:31] <independent> Was that a kick
[11:31] <independent> ikonia: ban
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:46] <independent> ikonia: I am speaking, and I am annoying you
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> independent: don't you have something else to do, then make a bad light on yourself?
[11:47] <Fuchs> lotuspsychje: no, as he did that for years by now
[11:47] <Fuchs> lotuspsychje: just ignore
[11:47] <independent> I have no problem being banned
[11:48] <independent> ikonia: I am speaking, ban me
[11:48] <cyberalex4life> Hello!
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> cyberalex4life: welcome, how can we help you
[11:49] <cyberalex4life> Guys I am having a lot of logout issues logging out on Ubuntu 18.04 with nvidia 920M
[11:49] <cyberalex4life> lotuspsychje, sorry about my message. So when I logout the system just freezes
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> cyberalex4life: can you press F1 to see the text logout? or does it freeze before?
[11:51] <cyberalex4life> lotuspsychje, there's nothing I can do but forcefully shut down my laptop
[11:51] <independent> cyberalex4life: What is your DE
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> cyberalex4life: have you tryed a sudo halt -p ? would this work?
[11:52] <cyberalex4life> independent, lotuspsychje I am using gnome-session on default ubuntu flavor
[11:52] <independent> So Gnome
[11:52] <cyberalex4life> independent, yes
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> cyberalex4life: wich nvidia driver are you on?
[11:52] <independent> I can't help you with gnome 3
[11:53] <cyberalex4life> lotuspsychje, I am on 396, but now I am on intel
[11:53] <independent> For linux
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> cyberalex4life: tryed switching drivers yet?
[11:53] <independent> I can help you
[11:54] <independent> lspci?
[11:54] <independent> !pastebin
[11:54] <cyberalex4life> lotuspsychje, Oh yes, I did, generally they work fine, however since 17.10 logging in takes a lot of time and is filled with errors
[11:55] <independent> cyberalex4life: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[11:55] <cyberalex4life> independent, 18.04
[11:55] <independent> independent: Have you use Ubuntu before 18.04?
[11:55] <independent> cyberalex4life: I mean you
[11:56] <independent> cyberalex4life: have you any version of Ubuntu befor 18.04 before?
[11:57] <cyberalex4life> independent, lotuspsychje I've started with ubuntu about 6 years ago and used it dayly for 2 years. After that I switched to manjaro, fedora and opensuse,
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> !ops | independent trolling
[11:58] <cyberalex4life> independent, lotuspsychje came back to Ubuntu with 17.10
[11:58] <cyberalex4life> and mostly for prime switching
[11:59] <independent> k
[12:00] <maddison> hey I'm having a problem with my boot-up.  After having to use shred on an external HDD to get rid of a LUKS partition, not the HDD with my OS.  I rebooted my computer and got the following message --  ** Gave up waiting for root file system device.  Common problems - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) - Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) - Missing Modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)   Alert! /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist.  Dro
[12:00] <maddison> pping to a shell!  **
[12:01] <compdoc> maddison, is it trying to mount is fastab?
[12:01] <compdoc> fstab
[12:01] <maddison> now if I select advanced options from the GRUB and select an old kernal.  Everything boots as it should
[12:02] <independent> cyberalex4life: So, you started from 17.04 and then install 18.xx
[12:02] <maddison> I don't know.  I know that I setup LUKS on installation.  But everything was working fine a couple of days ago.
[12:03] <independent> cyberalex4life: What I like to know, did ever work
[12:03] <maddison> how would I tell if it is trying to mount fstab
[12:03] <independent> lotuspsychje: Mother fucker, !ops
[12:03] <independent> !ops | I should be banned
[12:04] <cyberalex4life> independent, I've been, I think, on all Ubuntu versions since 12.04
[12:04] <compdoc> maddison, might try to run sudo update-grub, see if you get error messages
[12:05] <cyberalex4life> does anyone know how to fix or debug Ubuntu 18.04 (Gnome Session) freezing on logout?
[12:09] <maddison> compdoc, I just run that command.  Doesn't look like there's any errors, but I'll post the output
[12:10] <maddison> Generating grub configuration file ...
[12:10] <maddison> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-23-generic
[12:10] <maddison> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-23-generic
[12:10] <maddison> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-20-generic
[12:10] <maddison> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-20-generic
[12:10] <maddison> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> maddison: use a hastebin plz
[12:10] <ioria> cyberalex4life, you mean shutdown or simply a logout   ?
[12:14] <maddison> sorry everyone for not using a paste bin
[12:14] <cyberalex4life> ioria, I mean simple logout, just can't re-login because nothing works except for pressing power button to force shutdown
[12:15] <ioria> cyberalex4life,  logout, press 'Cancel' anfd login again
[12:20] <real_name> hmm
[12:22] <maddison> compdoc, after running that command.  Should I try a reboot to see if it has solved the problem?
[12:26] <compdoc> maddison, did it display any errors or info?
[12:29] <maddison> compdoc, it didn't display any errors but the last line it did state "Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration"
[12:29] <compdoc> maddison, well, yes, try rebooting
[12:30] <maddison> ok...  Thank you for your help (if I'm not back on soon)
[12:31] <UFC> hey guys I have a ubuntu vm and the mouse will not work at all but keyboard works fine, vmware esxi 5.5.0 and ubuntu 14.04
[12:31] <UFC> I installed ubuntu server and then installed the gui after
[12:31] <UFC> keyboard works no issues but I have no mouse at all :(
[12:32] <oerheks> no mouse in TTY ?
[12:32] <oerheks> oh, i see, what gui did you install?
[12:34] <compdoc> UFC, I used to do that with all my servers, no mouse issues
[12:34] <UFC> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <UFC> so unity I guess
[12:34] <oerheks> i suspect a vmware issue
[12:34] <UFC> I am a linux noob :(
[12:34] <UFC> installing xrdp on it now
[12:35] <UFC> to see if i can just rdp in it with mouse support
[12:35] <compdoc> x2go is much better
[12:35] <UFC> does it support ms rdp?
[12:35] <compdoc> no, but theres a windows client
[12:35] <UFC> I wanna use MS RDP instead
[12:35] <compdoc> what it does support is the clipboard
[12:35] <UFC> so I can access from anywhere easily
[12:36] <compdoc> copy/paste is very important to me
[12:36] <UFC> at startup it says psserial mouse something
[12:36] <UFC> compdoc that is actually pretty important too
[12:36] <UFC> is the windows client tiny at least?
[12:36] <compdoc> yeah, not very large
[12:36] <baako> hi guys how do i get my ip address
[12:36] <UFC> alright ill look into that
[12:37] <UFC> ifconfig
[12:37] <baako> just want to know what it is
[12:37] <compdoc> I used to use xrdp
[12:37] <oerheks> baako,  what is my ip dot com
[12:37] <oerheks> or simular like that, tons of those ip show sites
[12:39] <BluesKaj> I use this, it works well and is very accurate https://www.ip-tracker.org/
[12:40] <compdoc> baako, you want your computers private ip address, or the public address?
[12:42] <tomreyn> UFC: this should tell whether you have a mouse connected: grep -C5 mouse /proc/bus/input/devices
[12:43] <UFC> compdoc when i rdp into it now its just like a black/grey pattern screen...
[12:43] <BluesKaj> guess he found it
[12:43] <compdoc> UFC, you have to set the file xstartup, I think it was. been a while
[12:44] <UFC> say wha? lol
[12:45] <baako> thanks compdoc
[12:46] <compdoc> hmm, been a while, like I said
[12:46] <UFC> tomreyn https://imgur.com/a/xg8YfV1
[12:46] <UFC> and here is what I see when I RDP into it https://imgur.com/a/Aax9Gy3
[12:49] <tomreyn> looks like you have two mice, and a non properly configured rdp server.
[12:51] <UFC> halp lol
[12:54] <UFC> mouse works through xrdp
[12:54] <UFC> but its ugly and not unity desktop :(
[12:55] <compdoc> cant use unity or the new gnome desktop for xrdp
[12:56] <d1rewolf> hi guys. I've had two events over the past 24 hours when, after resuming by opening my laptop lid, root is mount ro. I worry I may not be suspending correctly, although I'm using the defaults for logind on Ubuntu 18.04. any ideas what might be causing this or what I should look for?
[12:56] <compdoc> although, I havent actually tried the new gnome desktop with xrpd
[12:57] <compdoc> UFC ^
[12:57] <UFC> gay
[12:57] <UFC> how can i connect to a windows share then from xfce ?
[12:57] <compdoc> has to be a '2D' desktop
[12:59] <maddison> Hi compdoc,  I'm back.  And it did not work
[13:01] <UFC> the terminal emulator doesnt even work in xrdp
[13:01] <maddison> essentially the problem comes up if (from the advanced options in the GRUB) I use the first option "Ubuntu, with Linux 4.15.0-23" normal or recovery
[13:01] <UFC> wtf
[13:01] <UFC> i have no terminal>
[13:03] <compdoc> maddison, you had an encrypted drive that you erased?
[13:03] <maddison> but if I use the 3rd option "Ubuntu, with Linux 4.15.0-20".  The computer boots normally sending me almost immediately to the verification screen to unlock the HDD and then to the user log in
[13:04] <maddison> yes, an external HDD that I was using for my OS.  Because my internal HDD crashed.
[13:04] <compdoc> do you still bot it?
[13:04] <compdoc> boot
[13:04] <BluesKaj> UFC, alt+F2 type console
[13:04] <compdoc> wheres the OS now?
[13:05] <maddison> But I've replaced the internal with another one. And loaded a clean linux onto it.
[13:05] <d1rewolf> actually, it just remounted as ro. "Buffer I/O error on dev dm-1, logical block 57704448, lost sync page write". could this be a bad disk?
[13:05] <pax_rhos> hello
[13:06] <d1rewolf> I'd be surprised..it's a relatively new ssd
[13:06] <pax_rhos> what's the difference between a gzipped stream and a gzipped file with the same stream?
[13:06] <maddison> I was able to boot from the external up until 2 days ago, when I used the shred command on it.  To turn it back into a mass storage drive
[13:07] <compdoc> BluesKaj, what do you want maddison to try?
[13:07] <maddison> and I waited for almost a week of booting from the internal HDD before I shredded the external
[13:09] <memphisto> d1rewolf: bad disk
[13:09] <maddison> And for that week, any time I booted I didn't have to use the advance options in the GRUB.  I could just enter or wait for the GRUB counter
[13:10] <pax_rhos> `/resolv.conf` warns not to edit it manually, then how to set up some DNS like 8.8.8.8 properly?
[13:11] <tomreyn> pax_rhos: what's your ubuntu release?
[13:11] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds
[13:11] <maddison> But after shredding the external, I'm getting the initramfs prompt and have to use the adv options to access the -20 kernal(??)
[13:12] <pax_rhos> tomreyn: 18.04 LTS
[13:14] <blackflow> pax_rhos: set up DNS= and/or FallbackDNS= in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf,  restart the systemd-resolved.service
[13:14] <tomreyn> pax_rhos: The /etc/resolve.conf file is now managed by systemd-resolved, and configuration of the resolver should be done in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf.
[13:14] <pax_rhos> thanks!
[13:15] <pax_rhos> thank you both
[13:15] <pax_rhos> I hope the issue with `Could not resolve host` on random streams will go
[13:16] <pax_rhos> it will leave me with only 1 issue: constant crashes of skype, chromium tabs and PhpStorm
[13:16] <pax_rhos> downgrading the kernel didn't help: with previous kernel only 1 of my 2 monitors works and it gets shitty resolution that can't be increased
[13:17] <nostrora> Hi! someone know how install docker 17.03 in Ubuntu 18.04 ?
[13:17] <pax_rhos> nostrora: follow official docker docu
[13:17] <brygphilomena> CE or EE?
[13:17] <nostrora> pax_rhos: there is no 17.03 package in ubuntu 18.04
[13:17] <nostrora> brygphilomena: CE
[13:18] <blackflow> !info docker
[13:18] <deem> It's docker.io in ubuntu repos
[13:18] <blackflow> !info docker.io
[13:18] <pax_rhos> https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/
[13:18] <blackflow> ah.... the .io herpderm naming
[13:19] <nostrora> no 17.03 in bionic
[13:19] <nostrora> the big problem is i can install docker 17.03 but then i have some problems with DNS
[13:19] <nostrora> Docker bug with ubuntu 18.04 DNS ?
[13:21] <oerheks> nostrora, more a question for #docker-network
[13:22] <brygphilomena> I dont see previous builds anywhere on dockers site
[13:22] <pax_rhos> they are probably not supported
[13:22] <brygphilomena> probably not
[13:23] <pax_rhos> I see they support older versions only for EE
[13:25] <maddison> So by doing to shred to the one drive...  did I mess up the one kernal and is that whats causing the problem?
[13:25] <pax_rhos> nostrora: https://medium.com/@gauravsj9/how-to-install-specific-docker-version-on-linux-machine-d0ec2d4095
[13:25] <nostrora> pax_rhos: do you think using xenial docker repo in bionic is good ?
[13:26] <pax_rhos> I don't know
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> there's a docker snap too
[13:26] <pax_rhos> I am suffering on Bionic Beaver
[13:27] <deem> why would you want to use an older docker version?
[13:28] <mrproper> Yesterday I installed Ubuntu server 18.04 and setup KVM on it. Things were working fine until at some point, and I'm not sure what caused it, the system stopped resolving DNS. I was messing around with iptables at the time to setup port forwarding into my KVM guests so that may have been what broke it. But do you happen to know of any documentation which explains how to troubleshoot this or provide ideas?
[13:28] <nostrora> deem: because kubernetes/rancher requirements is Docker 17.03
[13:28] <mrproper> I don't have my system around right now so admittedly, I'm limited on what I can do at this moment.
[13:29] <leftyfb> mrproper: flush iptables
[13:29] <leftyfb> mrproper: that's how you start to troubleshoot
[13:29] <mrproper> leftyfb, Makes sense. Thank you!
[13:31] <deem> nostrora: they are talking about k8s 1.8 which require docker 17.03, but 1.11 is the current k8s release
[13:32] <Guest83> Hello
[13:33] <deem> nostrora: Also rancher specifies Docker v1.12.6, 1.13.1, 17.03.2 as _minimum_ requirements
[13:33] <deem> on their github repo page
[13:33] <skinux>   Why does Ubuntu clock keep disappearing everytime I set it?
[13:35] <skinux> It was showing UTC, I tried changing that and now it never shows after I set it.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> skinux, is it on the desktop or in the system tray?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> panel rather
[13:56] <zprd> hi all
[13:58] <jim> maddison, thought you might be here... what did you find out?
[13:58] <zprd> I run a xenial and bionic lxc containers, xenial, play snice and uses correctly the hosts configured dns server, while bionic is a bad boy and uses 127.0.0.53
[13:59] <zprd> any chance to get the xenial behavior on bionic?
[13:59] <jim> uses 127.0.0.53 as what?
[13:59] <zprd> as nameserver
[13:59] <zprd> metinoed in /etc/resolv.conf
[14:00] <jim> does that ubuntu have a dns server running?
[14:00] <zprd> the container?
[14:00] <jim> well the bionic one
[14:00] <zprd> it's a verbatim container
[14:01] <blackflow> zprd: what's in your container's /etc/resolv.conf?
[14:01] <zprd>  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:01] <leftyfb> zprd: bionic uses netplan now for network configuration.
[14:01] <zprd> ...
[14:01] <zprd> # run "systemd-resolve --status" to see details about the actual nameservers.
[14:01] <zprd> nameserver 127.0.0.53
[14:01] <blackflow> zprd: that's in the container?
[14:01] <jim> does your container have net? can it ping its gateway by its numeric IP?
[14:02] <zprd> yes
[14:02] <blackflow> yes what, to me or jim :)
[14:02] <zprd> it has network
[14:02] <zprd> ping is ok
[14:02] <leftyfb> zprd: Ubuntu 18.04 uses systemd-resolved for DNS
[14:02] <zprd> okay
[14:02] <jim> zprd, ok, try: ping yahoo.com
[14:02] <leftyfb> zprd: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/what-s-new-in-ubuntu-18-04
[14:02] <leftyfb> zprd: look up "Default DNS Resolver"
[14:03] <zprd> ping is ok
[14:03] <jim> even by name?
[14:03] <leftyfb> jim: They're asking aobut where to configure DNS. Not about general network issues or pinging
[14:03] <zprd> I need it to resolve local addresses, and use the local dns server, ie use the hosts onw as the xenial does
[14:03] <leftyfb> zprd: use /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[14:04] <zprd> arf
[14:04] <jim> I'm trying to establish where the problem is, and if he does have net, that makes it easier, because we know he can install packages, and we know he can contact termbin.com (if you have nc installed, you can pastebin the output of an arbitrary command, for example ls -CF if you run it like this: ls -CF | nc termbin.com 9999)
[14:05] <leftyfb> jim: we've already established where the problem is in his first question
[14:05] <zprd> jim: even by name
[14:05] <zprd> ping works fine
[14:05] <blackflow> too much confusing advice given here, and we don't even have the actual problem properly defined it seems. if ping works by name, then what's the problem wiht the dns.
[14:05] <zprd> so at this point I conclude that after creating a container of bionic, I should configure manually /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[14:06] <blackflow> (assuming you tested from within the container)
[14:06] <leftyfb> he's looking where to configure DNS on a bionic client
[14:06] <leftyfb> zprd: bingo
[14:06] <blackflow> what does "configure DNS" mean here. it's a bit vague.
[14:06] <jim> ok zprd, can you run: cat /etc/network/interfaces | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:06] <blackflow> set up nameservers?
[14:06] <leftyfb> :/
[14:06] <zprd> blackflow: container does not pick local dns server, as configure by the lxc host
[14:07] <blackflow> zprd: what local dns server. you have bind/unbound/something-else running in the container?
[14:07] <maddison> jim, hi...   are you talking about the freezing problem I was having
[14:07] <zprd> jim: I have no such file in this container
[14:07] <jim> maddison, hi, yeah
[14:08] <leftyfb> zprd: does configuring your local DNS server in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf solve your issue?
[14:08] <jim> zprd, that's interesting... what mechanism is being used to set up your net
[14:08] <jim> ?
[14:08] <leftyfb> jim: containers by default are NAT'd
[14:09] <jim> leftyfb, does that happen outside the container?
[14:09] <maddison> yeah, I think I've resolved that issue.  I think it was being caused by running the OS off the external HDD.  Because I haven't really had the problem since installing linux on the new internal hdd
[14:09] <leftyfb> jim: it's configured outside the container, yes. But he is not asking for help with that at all. He only wanted to know where to configure your local DNS server in bionic. I told him. The problem should be resolved at this point.
[14:09] <jim> maddison, ok, so you went through a full install on the other hd?
[14:10] <maddison> But I'm now having another problem, which I think has to do with the main kernal
[14:11] <jim> maddison, what's the problem you're having?
[14:11] <maddison> after a few days of making sure the internal was working.  I decided to erase the external, using the shred command, to turn it back into the mass storage drive I intended it to be
[14:12] <jim> leftyfb, well the resolvconf package adds syntax to the interfaces file, which he doesn't have in the container
[14:12] <leftyfb> jim: except bionic doesn't use resolvconf, not does it utilize the interfaces file by default
[14:12] <leftyfb> not/nor*
[14:13] <leftyfb> jim: bionic uses netplan for networking management and systemd-resolved for DNS by default
[14:13] <zprd> jim: well, configuration using lxbr0, nothing fancy
[14:14] <jim> ok, then my question from before applies: by what mechanism is the network set up? in the container, is there a whole distribution installation, including kernel and grub?
[14:14] <maddison> when I boot the pc normally, instead of being prompted to unlock my hdd.  I'm being sent to initramfs and I getting a message that essentially says that the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exisst
[14:14] <zprd> leftyfb: I am not familiar with systemd-resolved, Ill try setting it up but the ideal would be a template option, on lxc-create
[14:14] <jim> ok, hadn't heard of netplan before
[14:14] <leftyfb> jim: netplan. As for whether or not the container is NAT'd or bridged, that's in the hosts lxc/d config
[14:14] <zprd> me neather
[14:15] <blackflow> jim: containers are OS level virtualization, kernels and grub have no meaning in them
[14:15] <jim> blackflow, so a container's software uses the host's kernel?
[14:15] <leftyfb> zprd: would you prefer to just have the container bridged an not NAT'd? That way if you set it to DHCP, it gets all the same networking configs as bare metal machines on your network?
[14:15] <leftyfb> jim: correct
[14:16] <zprd> no, nated is ok, name resolution though is important
[14:16] <jim> and, is there a separate netplan for host and contained os?
[14:16] <maddison> but if I use the advanced option in the grub and select another kernel, everything boots as it should
[14:17] <blackflow> jim: "containers" are just namespaces in PIDs, user IDs, filesystem view, ...
[14:17] <rud0lf> hmm some "apt install" ask for confirmation, some not
[14:17] <rud0lf> what's the criteria? archive size?
[14:18] <jim> blackflow, understood... I'm still curious whether the contained os gets "its own" netplan, or whether the networking for both the host and the container are setup by the host's netplan?
[14:19] <blackflow> jim: netplan is just configuration abstraction, and runs as a systemd generator (a bit wrongly but eh). it doesn't per se do any networking API
[14:19] <leftyfb> jim: it does. It's a normal ubuntu OS that uses a shared kernel
[14:20] <zprd> woh, is there a way to set a dns server using systemd-resolve?
[14:20] <zprd> I mean command line
[14:20] <leftyfb> zprd: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Domain_name_resolution#Systemd-resolved
[14:20] <zprd> I on that page
[14:21] <jim> leftyfb, so the first of the two alternatives?
[14:21] <leftyfb> jim: correct
[14:22] <blackflow> zprd: are you asking "is there a way to specify teh resolver to use for systemd-resolved"? if so, yes, /etc/systemd/resolved.conf, DNS and FallbackDNS directives. otherwise systemd-resolver is NOT a DNS server. it's just a caching forwarder, it requires a proper resolver elsewhere.
[14:22] <leftyfb> zprd: as I told you before, edit the /etc/systemd-resolved.conf and add your DNS server's ip after DNS= just like that link shows you
[14:22] <jim> so host gets a netplan, contained guest gets a (different) netplan, that likely uses the host's networking
[14:22] <jim> when did netplan first happen? is it a part of something larger?
[14:22] <zprd> leftyfb: I did that , and it is not working
[14:23] <blackflow> jim: with 17.10
[14:23] <leftyfb> zprd: reboot
[14:23] <zprd> ?
[14:23] <zprd> Oo
[14:23] <leftyfb> zprd: or restart the systemd-resolved service
[14:23] <leftyfb> it's a container, rebooting is literally seconds
[14:24] <jim> what's the codename on 17.10?
[14:24] <zprd> must be ok for interactive test, but I need somthing automatic
[14:24] <zprd> anyways, even after reboot, it fails to resolve local address
[14:26] <zprd> alright that was the domain name, of this lan, which is '.local'
[14:26] <zprd> whouray
[14:26] <jim> bluray?
[14:26] <zprd> still have to look into easier solution
[14:26] <zprd> :D no not bluera
[14:27] <blackflow> ah see, .local is reserved for mDNS and behaves a bit differently, I think resolved is even refusing to resolve those?
[14:27] <zprd> I lmow
[14:27] <jim> zprd, what do you have to do to get resolving working after reboot?
[14:27] <zprd> Domains=local
[14:28] <zprd> no reboot, service restart
[14:28] <blackflow> Is it time now to finally recommend what I usually do, drop systemd-resolved, set up unbound and a proper, recursive caching resolver that's also authoritative, in your lan, what has no opinions about .local being reserved?  :)
[14:28] <zprd> not a clean solution for dymaically created containers
[14:28] <zprd> :(
[14:29] <blackflow> if you have a resolver in your network, just specify it in a static /etc/resolv.conf, disable systemd-resolved.service compeltely and be done with it.
[14:29] <leftyfb> zprd: so did it work?
[14:29] <zprd> yes, configureing resolved works
[14:30] <leftyfb> zprd: so the automated way would be with a script, like a shell script. Or something like ansible. Or just don't do NAT :)
[14:31] <zprd> I'd rather avoid this kind of special configuration, with a bunch of if [ bionic]
[14:31] <zprd> I use a lxc for integration tests
[14:32] <zprd> with a set of distros and versions
[14:32] <blackflow> it's _one_ sed call per /etc/systemd/resolved.conf, per installation. how hard can that be.
[14:32] <jim> maddison, we're in ##linux-beginners if you'd like to speak to us... there are questions there pending for you
[14:32] <leftyfb> zprd: ansible has hooks for lxc/lxd
[14:32] <leftyfb> zprd: btw, you should be using lxd from snap. It's the latest and best.
[14:32] <zprd> lxd? no not yet
[14:33] <zprd> this should be run on debian and ubuntu hosts
[14:33] <Guest83> I have a strange issue
[14:33] <leftyfb> zprd: snap and lxd are available in the official debian repos
[14:33] <Guest83> I put in fstab the UUID of the partition i want to boot on
[14:33] <Guest83> but the system boot on another partition
[14:34] <Guest83> on another hard drive
[14:34] <Guest83> even I choose the right parition in GRUB
[14:34] <zprd> leftyfb: why lxd?
[14:35] <blackflow> zprd: because it automates a lot of things and makes container management easier.  LXC is a lot of manual work, in comparison.
[14:35] <leftyfb> blackflow: damn you, I was typing that but more long-winded :)
[14:36] <blackflow> :)
[14:36] <leftyfb> zprd: things like snapshots and live migration
[14:36] <blackflow> native ZFS support even!
[14:37] <leftyfb> yeah, to the point they REALLY want you to use ZFS
[14:37] <zprd> okay, not ready for that yet, I;d rather use offical packages on deiban hosts
[14:37] <blackflow> ZFS all the things.
[14:37] <leftyfb> zprd: again, snapd and lxd are official packages in debian
[14:38] <zprd> I heard, still habits of apt, for better updatees and ugprades
[14:39] <zprd> that sticks in my work
[14:39] <leftyfb> zprd: snapd packages are upgraded automatically, but ok
[14:40] <zprd> leftyfb: wht do you mean by automatically?
[14:41] <leftyfb> zprd: snap packages automatically update
[14:42] <zprd> leftyfb: so do you wht version you run at a precise moment?
[14:42] <zprd> leftyfb: the day after maybe another version is running?
[14:42] <zprd> (suppose lxd)
[14:43] <leftyfb> zprd: if a new version is released to the snap store, yes
[14:43] <zprd> oh not really wanted behavior, but I guess it is configurable
[14:43] <leftyfb> I'm running lxd version 3.2 at the moment
[14:43] <blackflow> hmm, that's not something I'd prefer actually... any way to disable automatic snap updates? can't seem to find one, and it appears the devs don't want to give us that choice..... all of a sudden I totally dislike snaps.
[14:44] <leftyfb> blackflow: I'm not sure that there is
[14:44] <blackflow> that's very bad.
[14:44] <zprd> yeah ok, not for lxd production then
[14:44] <zprd> good for testing beta versions
[14:44] <leftyfb> zprd: it's not an lxd issue. It's snapd
[14:45] <zprd> yes, I misworded
[14:46] <Guest83> When I select one parition from grub
[14:46] <Guest83> It boots another
[14:46] <Guest83> I dont know hy
[14:46] <Guest83> why
[14:47] <qwebirc46555> hello guys can somebody help me/
[14:48] <leftyfb> !ask | qwebirc46555
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> !grub | Guest83
[14:49] <Guest83> My grub is working
[14:49] <Guest83> I dont have windows
[14:49] <leftyfb> Guest83: are you 100% sure you're getting the correct UUID?
[14:49] <qwebirc46555> i just installed Xubuntu on an old laptop and i need a way to keeep fn key on in order to type properly
[14:50] <Guest83> I copied my partition  with ubuntu from dev/sdb5 to dev/sda2 and now i want to keep only sda2 but when I choose sda2 from grub my PC boots on sdb5
[14:51] <Guest83> yes the UUID is good in fstab
[14:51] <Guest83> and strangely the sda2 /sys/ is empty
[14:52] <leftyfb> Guest83: pastebin: sudo lsblk -f
[14:52] <leftyfb> Guest83: and your fstab
[14:52] <qwebirc46555> i just installed Xubuntu on an old laptop and i need a way to keeep fn key on in order to type properly
[14:53] <leftyfb> !repeat | qwebirc46555
[14:53] <leftyfb> qwebirc46555: My understanding is that is a feature of your laptop. Maybe you could do some trickery with key bindings but I'm not sure.
[14:54] <Guest83> leftyfb http://termbin.com/vjla   http://termbin.com/kuqc
[14:54] <qwebirc46555> i need to keep fn key preessed in order to type correctly
[14:55] <oerheks> qwebirc46555, sounds like a hardware issue to me
[14:55] <huolijun>  who has been watching the football world cup?
[14:56] <qwebirc46555> what could i do/
[14:56] <oerheks> huolijun, wrong channel
[14:57] <leftyfb> Guest83: looks like you have UEFI. I'm thinking the issue lies there.
[14:57] <huolijun> sorry my fault.i just want you guys calculate the possibility that england wins the final
[14:57] <ikonia> wrong channel still
[14:57] <leftyfb> huolijun: Offtopic
[14:57] <oerheks> huolijun,  stop that, this is ubuntu support, you want #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:57] <vavkamil> hello
[14:58] <vavkamil> I have ubuntu server 14.04 that won't boot, it will freeze after starting mysql [ok]
[14:58] <qwebirc46555> guys i need a way to change my undetected resolution cause screen is so close
[14:58] <Guest83> leftyfb how can I see if the EFI is the matter? and when I checked sys on sda2 the folder is empty. Isn't it a little bit strange ?
[14:59] <vavkamil> https://imgur.com/a/bh5V4JK
[15:00] <leftyfb> vavkamil: you have an invalid /etc/rc.local
[15:01] <vavkamil> leftyfb, thank you I missed that
[15:01] <vavkamil> was debugging mysql and teamspeak so far
[15:01] <WieGehts> Guest83 how did you move you root filesystem if i may ask? have you tried booting from the grub command line pointing to the new root/
[15:01] <leftyfb> the error in the screenshot tells you the problem
[15:02] <Guest83> WIeGehts. using GParted I copied the partition from sdb to sda
[15:02] <Guest83> I havent tried grub command line
[15:04] <WieGehts> try booting from the command line with the root set to your new /
[15:04] <qwebirc46555> how can i change my resolution? i only have 1 option availiable and its wrong
[15:04] <Guest83> WieGehts but I'm a little bit worried. The sys folder in sda is empty
[15:04] <Guest83> I dont know how to boot from command line grub
[15:05] <WieGehts> guest83 you know something here personally i would use rsync when moving partitions
[15:05] <Guest83> hmm
[15:06] <Guest83> I could try this but I dont know how to rsyn a whole partition with an OS
[15:08] <felix__> hello
[15:12] <WieGehts> Guest83 never mind that, /sys is supposed to be empty i think if that root filesystem is not currently running if i am not mistaken so is /dev and /run. anyway reboot your system and when grub menu pops up press esc and i might be able to walk you through from there
[15:13] <Guest83> ok lets try
[15:15] <Guest83> WieGehts I'm on the grub command line
[15:15] <Guest83> grub version 2.02
[15:17] <WieGehts> okay first things first, lets try to identify where your kernel is, type ls and then tab and tell me what you see
[15:18] <Guest83> ls lsacpi lscoreboot lsefi lsefimmap lsefisystab lsfonts lsmmap lsmod lspci lssal WieGehts
[15:19] <WieGehts> sorry ls and hit enter.
[15:20] <Guest83> hd0 hd0,msdos1 hd1 hd1,gpt1 hd2 hd,msdos5 hd2,msdos1 cd0
[15:20] <Guest83> hd1,gpt2
[15:21] <WieGehts> okay so to be clear you want to boot from you new partition which is sda2 am i right?
[15:21] <Guest83> yes
[15:21] <Guest83> the system was installed on sdb5
[15:22] <Guest83> and now I want to put the OS on the little drive and the data on the bigger one
[15:22] <Guest83> so sda2 is the copied partition from sdb5
[15:22] <Guest83> and now I want to have sda2 working and then delete sdb5
[15:25] <WieGehts> okay i see. type this ls (hd1,gpt2)/ and then enter
[15:27] <Guest83> Ok
[15:30] <Guest83> Partition hd1 gpt2 : Type de système de fichiers ext* - Etiquette "Ubuntu-OS" Derniere modification jeudi 12/07/2018 15.04.57 UUID 20aa9462 26ec 49c9 8a71 6c52f832e9e7 - La partition commence à 52525 Kio - Taille totale 249533440 Kio
[15:30] <Guest83> WieGehts
[15:30] <Guest83> that is sda2
[15:31] <WieGehts> is that the result you get when you type what i said you should?
[15:32] <Guest83> Oh sorry gosh
[15:32] <Guest83> I dont see the /
[15:33] <Guest83> lost+found/ boot/ swapile etc/ media/ var/ bin/ home/ lib/ lib64/ mnt/ opt/ proc/ root/ run/ sbin/ snap/ srv/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ initrd.img initrd.img.old vmlinuz cdrom/
[15:33] <Guest83> swapfile*
[15:33] <Guest83> WieGehts
[15:36] <WieGehts> okay. now type this linux (hd1,gpt2)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2
[15:37] <Guest83> WieGehts done
[15:37] <pugthelouie> hello! i need help
[15:37] <pugthelouie> i recently super-screwed my Xorg server
[15:37] <pugthelouie> and accidentally messed it up
[15:37] <pugthelouie> so i reinstalled Xorg
[15:37] <pugthelouie> and set the config file correctly
[15:38] <pugthelouie> but now Ubuntu GNOME just hangs when i run "startx"
[15:38] <ikonia> you never run startx
[15:38] <ikonia> (unless you know what to do with it)
[15:39] <WieGehts> okay. now type this initrd (hd1,gpt2)/initrd.img  then enter. then type boot then enter.
[15:39] <Guest83> WieGehts something happen
[15:40] <Guest83> i guess im booting
[15:40] <Guest83> OH YEAH
[15:40] <Guest83> Im on dev/sda2
[15:40] <Guest83> I have created a test folder
[15:40] <Guest83> on the desktop to identify it
[15:41] <Guest83> WieGehts I'm on dev/sda2 on the desktop
[15:41] <WieGehts> okay so what this confirms is that, when you changed the root. you didnt update your grub configuration
[15:42] <Guest83> Hmm
[15:42] <Guest83> I never changed the root
[15:42] <Guest83> after copying the parition i have only launch update-grub
[15:42] <Guest83> WHat am I suppose to do now?
[15:43] <Guest83> WieGehts big thanks already. I can see the copied partition is working
[15:45] <WieGehts> okay. but you did say you boot into the old partition right?
[15:45] <WieGehts> what does your grub menu look like by the way?
[15:45] <Guest83> WieGehts when the computer start yes. Even if i Choose Ubuntu 18 on dev/sda2 from grub menu
[15:45] <Guest83> like
[15:46] <WieGehts> yes what options are there. how do they appear?
[15:46] <Guest83> Ubuntu ; Advanced Options for Ubuntu, Ubuntu 18.04 (on /dev/sda2) Advanced options for Ubuntu 18.04 (on /dev/sda2) WieGehts
[15:48] <Guest83> I could reboot to verify it
[15:49] <WieGehts> wait
[15:49] <Wixy> Hi. After running "sysctl -w fs.file-max=100000" I still see the limit of file descriptors is 4096, according to "ulimit -Hn". What am I missing?
[15:49] <WieGehts> okay. do you still have that old drive attached to your system and does it still have that root filesystem?
[15:50] <WieGehts> infact reboot and when you are at the grub menu, move to select the first entry you and press e
[15:51] <Guest83> in Folders explorer i dont see the sdb2 partition
[15:51] <Guest83> ok lets go reboot
[15:51] <Guest83> now I know how boot on sda2 manually
[15:51] <Guest83> ait
[15:51] <Guest83> wait
[15:53] <Guest83> WieGehts Ubuntu - Advanced options for Ubuntu - FreeDOS (/dev/sda1/) - Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (/dev/sda2/) - Advanced options for Ubuntu 18/04 LTS (/dev/sda2) - System Setup
[15:54] <Guest83> I pressed e on the first entry WieGehts
[15:54] <WieGehts> guest83 i said to press e on the first entry did you do that
[15:54] <Guest83> yes
[15:54] <Guest83> I see setparams 'Ubuntu' WieGehts
[15:55] <WieGehts> okay. make sure not to type in any letters by mistake. look for where it says linux etc and see if that command looks anything like the options you typed to boot your system earlier?
[15:56] <WieGehts> what are the differences if you can spot them
[15:56] <Guest83> WieGehts I see 3 times the same UUID
[15:57] <Guest83> It's the sdb5 one
[15:57] <Guest83> set root ='hd1,mdos5'
[15:57] <Guest83> --hint-bios = hd1,msdos5
[15:58] <Guest83> --hint-efi=hd1,msdos5
[15:58] <Guest83> dos5 XXXXX (there the UUID of de/sdb5
[15:58] <Guest83> --set=root XXXX (UUID sbd5)
[15:59] <Guest83> linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-23-generic root=UUID=XXXXX (again sdb5 UUID))
[16:00] <WieGehts> okay. so that confirms something here when you updated you grub configuration like you said, since you ran that command in the sda5 root environment it directly made the correct assignment of setting things as it did. what it means now is you need to boot into the sda2 environment like you did before and run grub to set things the way you supposedl
[16:00] <WieGehts> y want them to. does that make sense? but there is a catch
[16:00] <Guest83> initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-23-generic
[16:00] <WieGehts> guest83 okay thats enough info
[16:01] <Guest83> Ok
[16:01] <Guest83> So I boot sda2 and login normally into the desktop and then open the terminal?
[16:02] <Guest83> WieGehts I used sudo update-grub when I was on sdb5
[16:03] <WieGehts> do you understand what i said here about there being a catch? what i mean by that is like another user identified earlier to you is that  that efi partition and as confirmed by the information you just gave me. you need to put that efi partition into consideration when now updating grub on sda2 or things will get messed really bad. do you understan
[16:03] <WieGehts> d?
[16:05] <WieGehts> guest83
[16:05] <Guest83> Yes
[16:05] <Guest83> I understand
[16:05] <WieGehts> okay so using what i already showed you earlier boot into sda2
[16:05] <Guest83> done
[16:06] <Guest83> WieGehts
[16:06] <Guest83> I'm on sda2
[16:07] <Guest83> And I'm very carefully for not messing all the things with EFI
[16:07] <Guest83> I'm reading carefully what you write
[16:09] <WieGehts> okay. so here is a disclaimer im not going to walk you through on this one because what we are doing here may fuck up your setup and i dont want that. im am going to give you a briefing and the rest i advice for you to read up more online. understand? okay so here goes. is the /boot/efi partition  mounted as of now?
[16:11] <Guest83> WieGehts I can access to /boot/efi yes
[16:11] <Guest83> with sudo
[16:11] <SirNapkin1334> so, I'm not at my computer, but I have a problem with booting ubuntu from a USB.
[16:11] <SirNapkin1334> by that I mean I can't test stuff that you recommend right now
[16:11] <SirNapkin1334> basically, I want to make a persistent USB
[16:12] <compdoc> what happens?
[16:12] <WieGehts> okay what are its contents? and also tell me the contents of /boot , /boot/grub
[16:12] <SirNapkin1334> however, when making one with LiveLinux Creator, ubuntu is incredibly laggy
[16:12] <SirNapkin1334> with a non-persistent USB, ubuntu is very speedy and I do enjoy it
[16:12] <SirNapkin1334> but with persistence, it's very slow, and programs don't work
[16:13] <sylario> Probably the write speed of the USB stick
[16:13] <SirNapkin1334> it's a new one, and it's very good
[16:14] <Guest83> http://termbin.com/21wv
[16:14] <Guest83> boot
[16:14] <Guest83> http://termbin.com/fym5
[16:14] <SirNapkin1334> what's the recommended minimum write speed?
[16:14] <Guest83> boot grub
[16:14] <SirNapkin1334> for a persistent usb
[16:15] <Guest83> http://termbin.com/rpm8
[16:15] <Guest83> boot efi
[16:15] <Guest83> WieGehts
[16:16] <Guest83> boot 1st then boot grub then boot efi
[16:16] <SirNapkin1334> sylario ^
[16:17] <sylario> Idk, a modern HDD is probably around 200MB/s
[16:17] <Guest83> (cant it try to run update-grub2 from the current sda2 ? May it fix the solution ?)
[16:18] <WieGehts> guest83 okay. contents of /boot/efi/EFI
[16:18] <SirNapkin1334> okay, i'll try to check out my USB's speeds
[16:19] <Guest83> http://termbin.com/53af WieGehts
[16:22] <SirNapkin1334> how big are the average edits Ubuntu will be making for the persistence?
[16:25] <Guest83> WieGehts done
[16:25] <dchotas> Hey everyone, for some reason my ubuntu stopped detecting my headphone jack, I plug my headphones in and sound comes from the laptop speaker. I've tried 'alsactl restore' 'sudo alsa force-reload' and checking alsamixer but my "headphone" entry has no volume slider and is at '00'.
[16:26] <lance_> Hello room
[16:27] <agrippaz> hi
[16:27] <lance_> So, nobody's here, yet all the names?
[16:27] <lance_> oh hi agrippa
[16:27] <agrippaz> what's shakin?
[16:27] <WieGehts> guest83 okay so the here is deal. that update-grub2 is just a front end for this command grub-install. now you could run that yes, but personally what you need to understand is grub-install needs certain images to run and in this particular case they maybe installed in /boot or /boot/eif (most probably the best here) so the command i would run is t
[16:27] <WieGehts> his grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi. how ever just to be safe boot ubuntu as sda5 right enter this command on terminal grub-mkrescue -o grub.iso and put that iso on a removable. thats a backup incase things go south. now you might then reenter sda2 and run your update command and if that fails. try mine grub-install etc. but like i said with
[16:27] <WieGehts>  knowlegde go online and read afew and then do what i told you to be safe and then hit me up when you done with the outcome. goodluck
[16:27] <lance_> I don't have any problems, I just have never used this program before. Really takes me back. Reminds me of 1998
[16:28] <agrippaz> lance_, heh yeah. me too
[16:28] <lance_> I was a young man then. Now, not so much.
[16:28] <WieGehts> grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi /dev/sda in yourcase(EDIT) guest83
[16:28] <lance_> ^^^^ this is why I don't dual boot
[16:30] <lance_> So, agrippa, when did you start messing around with Linux?
[16:30] <agrippaz> 1996
[16:30] <agrippaz> MkLinux
[16:30] <lance_> oh wow.
[16:31] <agrippaz> I'm on here trying to get OpenVPN help on another channel
[16:31] <lance_> I was introduced to it in 2008. I bought a cheap netbook from walmart on it and it had a fedora distro on it.
[16:31] <lance_> get or give?
[16:31] <agrippaz> get
[16:32] <Guest83> WieGehts grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi /dev/sda2 sda2 instead of sda?
[16:32] <lance_> ok. I'll leave you to get to it
[16:32] <agrippaz> peace
[16:33] <Guest83> WieGehts the iso file could be on any USB key with other file or need empty usb key?
[16:34] <WieGehts> guest83 no. grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi /dev/sda. but do run the update-grub2 first. its up to you really. also make sure you made the rescue iso like i told you in sda5 environment. you might just read a few articles online to be sure whats safer update etc or grub-install on ubuntu
[16:35] <WieGehts> guest83 yes retrieve it as it is on any media be it a partition or pen drive etc so you burn it if you ever need it.
[16:36] <WieGehts> to reiterate i have no clue how update-grub2 works. again check online whats better in your case
[16:38] <Guest83> WieGehts Ok ty. just for try I put e on Ubuntu dev:sda2 on Grub menu
[16:39] <Guest83> 1 of the 3 UUID is set to sdb2 : linux/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-23-generic root=UUID= XXXX ( that DAMNED sdb2 UUID)
[16:39] <Guest83> WieGehts
[16:39] <Guest83> the  2 other UUID are the good ones
[16:39] <SirNapkin1334> augh
[16:39] <Guest83> I will try what you tell me tomorrow
[16:40] <SirNapkin1334> my USB's write speed is 10-0.5MB/s
[16:40] <SirNapkin1334> =/
[16:40] <SirNapkin1334> ack! emoji!
[16:40] <SirNapkin1334> or maybe that's just my client
[16:40] <WieGehts> guest83 okay its all up to you
[16:41] <Guest83> WieGehts I will try to find an admin sys tomorrow
[16:41] <Guest83> and explain what we have found together
[16:41] <Guest83> Thanks a lot
[16:42] <Guest83> Now I know how to boot on my partition
[16:42] <Guest83> WieGehts  what if i boot on sda2 as you say then destroy sdb5 partition and update grub2?
[16:46] <WieGehts> final note here. in the future do not do efi partitions especially when you are not going to need to dual boot win along linux. just go MBR/bios compatibility if you can and keep everything on one partition unless you absolutely need to do otherwise. also just read this article here https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-a
[16:46] <WieGehts> ctually-work-then/
[16:47] <arooni> is there a shortcut to *only* display the sidebar menu on gnome ? ubuntu 18.04?  i know theres one for the 'activities' view
[16:48] <Guest83> WieGehts ty but i think the EFI was here with the pc at the beginning
[17:06] <spotter_> is their an equivalent to dpkg-query (i.e. dumping package metadata) that allows you to show aptitude's "installed to fill dependency" metadata?
[17:06] <spotter_> i.e. to be autoremoved if nothing installed depends on it anymore
[17:15] <dviper> Hello all, Does anyone know the best way to ensure that all DNS traffic go to local host? Would this require iptables entry?
[17:22] <linuxbox> i updated my gdm3.css file to use a new lock screen wallpaper but now I can't login at all or make new edits to this file - anyone know of a way to recovery?
[17:23] <linuxbox> i dropped into root maintenance to see if there's anything i can do
[17:27] <leftyfb> linuxbox: if you're in root recovery, then you should go undo what you did to break it
[17:38] <linuxbox> leftyb: yeah you'd think, unfortunately like i said even as root the OS is complaning that gdm3 is a protected OS file so it won't let me edit it
[17:39] <linuxbox> not sure why it should matter if I'm in the OS or the terminal doing it, but apparently it does - other people have complained about the same thing, not being able to replace the file with a good one when ubuntu won't boot
[17:39] <ioria> linuxbox, not booting or just not loading the desktop ?
[17:40] <linuxbox> ioria, stuck at booting really, i never get a terminal to type in…just kinda hangs
[17:41] <ioria> linuxbox, you mean you cannot open a console with ctrl+alt+fx after it got stuck ?
[17:41] <leftyfb> linuxbox: you mean your filesystem is read-only?
[17:42] <ioria> linuxbox, you know that in Recovery you need to remount rw , right ?
[17:43] <linuxbox> nopers didn't know that, it's recovery mode lol
[17:43] <ioria> linuxbox, btw, sudo update-alternatives --auto gdm3.css   should replace the good one afaik
[17:43] <linuxbox> oh cool, yeh that'd work
[17:44] <linuxbox> gonna try it now
[17:44] <leftyfb> linuxbox: only after you remount as rw/
[17:44] <ioria> linuxbox, mount -o remount,rw /
[17:45] <linuxbox> it's a shame i wasn't able to use a custom one, but whatever
[17:47] <linuxbox> k done, booting now to try it
[17:48] <linux778> Hi
[17:50] <linuxbox> hrm seems to be stuck at dispatcher daemon for systemd-networkd
[17:52] <linuxbox> yeah that'd odd, the screen just keeps flashing with the last boot log message stating started daemon for systemd-networkd
[17:53] <ioria> linuxbox, let me understand, you edit directly  gdm3.css  ?
[17:53] <linuxbox> yes
[17:54] <ioria> linuxbox, revert the changes, then (remember to remount rw,as above)
[17:57] <usuario4> 12345
[18:00] <linuxbox> ioria: i don't recall what the original wallpaper that was used in usr/share/backgrounds for this portion of the .css file
[18:00] <linuxbox> would you mind looking to see what yours says it's located by searching for #lockdialog
[18:02] <ioria> not using gnome, sorry maybe this will help : http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/10/change-login-screen-background-ubuntu-17-10/
[18:02] <marco_> hello
[18:02] <linuxbox> yeh he's showing noise.texture.png, but i don't think that's it
[18:18] <chek> hello
[18:18] <chek> mug
[18:48] <guest_> low fps system wide in ubuntu 18.04
[18:50] <qwebirc82271> hola
[18:50] <Wixy> Hi all
[18:51] <Wixy> I've tried to increase the number of file descriptors limit but it's not working for my user
[18:51] <Wixy> "ulimit -Hn" would still show 4096
[18:51] <Wixy> "sysctl fs.file-max" shows 131072
[18:52] <qwebirc82271> hola alguien habla español
[18:52] <ikonia> !es | qwebirc82271
[18:52] <Pici> !es | qwebirc82271
[18:53] <caffeinethePOP> hello
[18:56] <caffeinethePOP> is anyone here?
[18:56] <UserUS> caffeinethePOP: yeah
[18:56] <caffeinethePOP> nice
[18:56] <caffeinethePOP> I need some help, I am a new user
[18:56] <UserUS> What’s up?
[18:57] <caffeinethePOP> I don't know how to ccreate the "/usr/share/applications/awesome.desktop
[18:57] <caffeinethePOP> how do I create something like that?
[18:58] <UserUS> caffeinethePOP: you just want to create the folder or the document in the folder?
[18:58] <cristian_c> !menu
[18:59] <cristian_c> caffeinethePOP: I suppose, gnome shell is your desktop
[18:59] <caffeinethePOP> I think so.. yeah basically I installed awesome wm, and it wouldn't be there in the login options, so.. they asked me to do this
[18:59] <caffeinethePOP> yes it is @cristian_c
[18:59] <cristian_c> they?
[19:00] <caffeinethePOP> emm, well, I googled it, and some of the answers included that
[19:01] <caffeinethePOP> so-they would be the ppl who answered the question
[19:01] <kus_> Hi, I used to run redmine which is a ruby project on Ubuntu server artful. When I upgraded to bionic, it seems that rake and bundle still think they need to be on ruby 2.3 but ruby 2.3 no longer exists. What should I do?
[19:01] <kus_> ruby --version gives me ruby 2.5.1p57 (2018-03-29 revision 63029) [x86_64-linux-gnu]
[19:03] <rosco_y> What's a good way to install mysql?
[19:04] <kus_> on a development machine?
[19:05] <rosco_y> kus_: ty, yes
[19:06] <rosco_y> I'm concidering using a package manager, or a download from Oracle
[19:06] <kus_> I would strongly recommend devilbox if you're doing development
[19:06] <rosco_y> devilbox?
[19:06] <kus_> https://github.com/cytopia/devilbox
[19:07] <rosco_y> oh, postgres.  I was concidering postgres, but I'm already familiar with mysql.
[19:07] <kus_> devilbox is just a docker-compose thing
[19:07] <kus_> you can have both mysql and postgresql
[19:08] <rosco_y> kus_: that is intertersting.  what is a docker-compose thing?
[19:08] <CarlFK> rosco_y: package manager
[19:08] <rosco_y> wow.  I'll look into that.  Thanks!
[19:09] <kus_> rosco_y, you wouldn't do this on a server though. only for local development so you can get going quickly
[19:09] <kus_> especially if you use PHP
[19:09] <CarlFK> packages get security updates and stuff.  all the other options mean more to maintain later
[19:09] <CarlFK> ...more work...
[19:10] <kus_> CarlFK, I installed redmine using package and upgrading the distro from artful to bionic broke it
[19:10] <rosco_y> CarlFK: ty.  I think I'd be fine if I could just install mysql server and set up the admin and a user password.
[19:10] <rosco_y> I'm just stand-alone, I don't need much.
[19:11] <kus_> rosco_y, yeah you can definitely do sudo apt install mysql-server mysql-client
[19:11] <rosco_y> I'm generating puzzles, and I want to store them
[19:11] <rosco_y> thanks kus_, my requirements are very minamal.  I just want to define my tables and use them--as I said, I like mysql :)
[19:11] <kus_> although you should probably do sudo apt install mariadb-server mariadb-client
[19:12] <rosco_y> I don't need to learn new things (there's enough work in keeping up with what I "know")
[19:14] <guest_> low fps system wide in ubuntu 18.04
[19:17] <Bashing-om> guest_: graphics ? .. pastebin for the channel ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[19:18] <guest_> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n6PcjfwYpP/  201 frames in 5.0 seconds = 40.024 FPS
[19:24] <Bashing-om> guest_: Drivers are loaded .. end of my experience with Intel/ATI cards. Do not know what to advise .
[19:25] <gogeta> Bashing-om, for intel you on need the out of box drivers
[19:25] <gogeta> only
[19:25] <guest_> gogeta: means default drivers present in ubuntu 18?
[19:25] <gogeta> guest_ yes
[19:26] <guest_> gogeta: i am using them , but still getting only 40 fps in glxgears
[19:27] <gogeta> guest_ intel cards are not known for there power
[19:27] <guest_> gogeta: even 480p video lags
[19:28] <gogeta> guest_, do you know what genration card
[19:28] <rosco_y> Thanks kus_, CarlFK--I appreciate your Help!
[19:28] <guest_> 520
[19:28] <guest_> i5 6gth gen
[19:29] <guest_> gogeta: 12gb ram
[19:30] <kus_> my pleasure
[19:31] <gogeta> guest_, from what i can see yea the 520 is pretty terrable in ubuntu
[19:33] <gogeta> guest_, from what i can see gnome itsself is eating up your gpu
[19:36] <gogeta> guest_, there is a workaround it seems gnome is not enabling your hardware driver
[19:36] <gogeta> guest_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/1767468 the 6th post has a workaround
[19:36] <guest_> gogeta: thanks
[19:38] <gogeta> guest_, just remove that file
[19:38] <guest_> gogeta: can you please tell cmd
[19:38] <gogeta> gogeta, sudo rm filename
[19:39] <anli> What do I reinstall to fix git-remote-https: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: version `CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found (required by git-remote-https) ?
[19:39] <Bashing-om> guest_: What release are you running ? As older releases do need some help with the skylake chip set .
[19:39] <gogeta> guest_, sudo rm filename then restart gnome it should behave normaly then
[19:40] <guest_> i am using ubuntu 18.04
[19:40] <gogeta> guest_, you upgraded to 18.04 i asssume
[19:40]  * anli did that
[19:40] <Bashing-om> guest_: skylake issues are fixed in 18.04 . was a thought .
[19:41] <guest_> fresh install
[19:41] <gogeta> Bashing-om, they are but thers a left overfile
[19:41] <gogeta> Bashing-om, causing a issue
[19:42] <Bashing-om> gogeta: :) I look over your shoulder - see what I can learn .
[19:42] <gogeta> guest_, the command will be sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50_check_unity_support
[19:42] <guest_> cannot remove '/etc/X11/Xsession.d/50_check_unity_support': No such file or directory
[19:43] <gogeta> guest_, then you dont have the leftover file
[19:43] <gogeta> guest_, it could just be a issue of gnome using to much of you gpu
[19:44] <gogeta> Bashing-om, he said he cant even get 480p video out of a 520 intel chip
[19:44] <guest_> gogeta: thanks , i will install another DM
[19:46] <gogeta> guest_, echo $LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE    do you get a 1 or 0
[19:47] <guest_> blank
[19:48] <gogeta> guest_, well then it is using your gpu
[19:48] <guest_> gogeta: blank means 0 ?
[19:48] <gogeta> guest_, yea that means its not in fallback its just using that mutch of your system
[19:49] <guest_> gogeta: it is a gnome problem
[19:49] <guest_> ?
[19:49] <Wixy> hey, after login with login manager my pam_limits are not applied, however if I do ssh to localhost it works. what can I do?
[19:49] <gogeta> guest_, its just gnome does not play nice with low end systems i suggest mate
[19:49] <gogeta> guest_, or xfce
[19:49] <guest_> gogeta: my system is not low end
[19:50] <kaleidoscope> hey guys, i need some help configuring dns servers for ubuntu server 18.04
[19:50] <gogeta> guest_, you gpu is unfortanly
[19:50] <kaleidoscope> i have everything listed under the interfaces file, but restarting networking service does not output anything to the resolv.conf
[19:50] <Wixy> I'm probably missing something on /etc/pam.d/, I just don't know where
[19:50] <guest_> gogeta: on windows 10 , i can play 1080p video ,
[19:51] <gogeta> guest_, wth a lighter wm you should be able to as well
[19:51] <kaleidoscope> this is my conf at the moment -> https://ptpb.pw/rrVf
[19:52] <kaleidoscope> the only thing in resolv.conf is the systemd-resolv stub resolver address (127.0.0.53)
[19:52] <gogeta> guest_, also youtube isnt a good test
[19:53] <gogeta> guest_, try a 1080p downlaoded 1080p video
[19:53] <guest_> gogeta:  yes it is a downloaded video
[19:53] <gogeta> guest_, what player
[19:53] <guest_> default
[19:54] <gogeta> guest_, try it in vlc or kodi
[19:54] <kaleidoscope> how would i be able to resolve this issue
[19:54] <gogeta> guest_, i know those support hardware rendering
[19:55] <guest_> even glxgears is running on 40fps, i can get 60+ on dual core 1st gen
[19:55] <ceibal> holo
[19:55] <Guest79474> Hi how can I know the process running on a certain directory please ?
[19:55] <gogeta> guest_, i am stumped on that the  systems says its no in fallback
[19:55] <ceibal> no hablo tu idioma
[19:56] <gogeta> guest_, so it is seeing and using your card
[19:56] <hggdh> 1es | ceibal
[19:56] <Guest79474> I don't understand
[19:58] <Bashing-om> Guest79474: I curious - what menas are you using to switch between the Intel and ATI graphic's sets ?
[19:58] <guest_> Bashing-om: No
[19:58] <gogeta> guest_, some say use kerner 4.15 some say rip out gnome so thers no set path on how to fix it
[19:58] <gogeta> kernel
[19:58] <sylvain255> Bashing-om I don't understand
[19:59] <guest_> nothing , by default intel is active
[19:59] <sylvain255> you wanted to talk to guest_ !
[19:59] <gogeta> guest_, wait you have a anti card?
[19:59] <gogeta> ati
[20:00] <sylvain255> noone for my question ?
[20:00] <guest_> gogeta: yes , amd r5 m430
[20:00] <Bashing-om> sylvain255: sorry .. was a slip on my not paying attention to my tab complete :(
[20:00] <gogeta> and facepalm
[20:00] <sylvain255> ok doesn't matter
[20:00] <ceibal> en
[20:00] <gogeta> guest_, enable to ati driver son
[20:01] <guest_> gogeta: no drivers
[20:01] <gogeta> guest_, go to your hardware tab
[20:02] <guest_> gogeta: i dont have any driver in additional tab
[20:02] <Bashing-om> guest_: Mo, drivers are loaded per the lshw output .. as to how one enables the ATI card .. beyond my experience .
[20:02] <gogeta> guest_, https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[20:03] <Bashing-om> mo/No*
[20:03] <guest_> thanks
[20:03] <gogeta> Bashing-om, no wonder is preforance sucked he was in pure 2d mode
[20:04] <Bashing-om> gogeta: Yup - need now to see what it takes to bring the ATI card on-lline .
[20:05] <gogeta> Bashing-om, i should be always on
[20:05] <sylvain255> Hi how can I know the process accessing a certain directory please ?
[20:05] <sylvain255> processes
[20:06] <gogeta> Bashing-om, once he has the driver he shuld be able to switch
[20:06] <gogeta> Bashing-om, normaly in his bios
[20:06] <lordcirth_work> What is the best way to enable (secure) remote desktop to a Ubuntu 18.04 machine, given that I currently have ssh access?
[20:06] <lordcirth_work> Needs to work for Windows clients too
[20:07] <gogeta> guest_, you should be able to turn on your ati card in your bios
[20:07] <gogeta> on
[20:09] <gogeta> Bashing-om, i think i get the problem
[20:09] <TuxBlackEdo> Hey ive been messing with this thing for an hour now before coming here. Does anyone know how to set persistant net names in ubuntu 18.04? /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules seems to be missing
[20:09] <gogeta> Bashing-om, the old fglrx had switching
[20:13] <gogeta> Bashing-om, amd.powerplay=1 that turns the card on from grub
[20:15] <Bashing-om> gogeta: I say again . I Have no experience with Intel/ATI. Used to be with open source drivers there was the tool "switcheroo" to change the graphic's set . maybe 'prime' now-a-days ??
[20:18] <TuxBlackEdo> man i should get a windows box, i can't believe its so hard to set persistant network names in ubuntu 18.04... it used to be so easy with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:19] <hggdh> TuxBlackEdo: it is not Ubuntu, it is Linux/SystemD
[20:19] <Bashing-om> gogeta: Wish he had of hung around. " If you are using Ubuntu GNOME 17.04+, switcheroo-control is installed by default. If it works correctly, it's supposed to force your less powerful GPU to be used for your regular session, but you can right-click on apps to "Launch using Dedicated Graphics Card."
[20:21] <Sven_vB> I'm trying to override my default proxy setting for SSH, to connect to my live USB session directly. so in my ssh config I put a section "Host ubuntu.local" with a line "ProxyCommand none", because the man page said " Setting the command to “none” disables this option entirely.", however, when I try to ssh into the live session machine, I get a proxy error HTTP/503, because my proxy doesn't allow forwarding to the local LAN.
[20:21] <Sven_vB> any ideas?
[20:21] <gogeta> Bashing-om, it used to be part of the amd driver itself but fglrx is dead now
[20:22] <gogeta> Bashing-om, the open source drive still has no good sloutions
[20:22] <Sven_vB> actually 503 sounds more like the proxy doesn't do avahi, but that shouldn't even matter.
[20:26] <Bashing-om> gogeta: Seems switcheroo is still alive and well : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/switcheroo-control .
[20:28] <gogeta> Bashing-om, nice im shure he will return
[20:29] <Bashing-om> gogeta: Maybe he comes back ,, we see .. And confirmation of the tool's use: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/switcheroo-control .
[20:33] <TuxBlackEdo> how does one set up persistent network names ubuntu 18.04?
[20:35] <TuxBlackEdo> why are my network interfaces named "rename2" "rename3" "enp129s0f0" "eno1" "rename6" "enp129s0f1" (in that order)
[20:35] <Bashing-om> !netplan | TuxBlackEdo
[20:37] <TuxBlackEdo> that works
[20:38] <Bashing-om> TuxBlackEdo: :) the days of /etc/network/interfaces is long past :(
[20:42] <hfp> How can I control power settings like whether the laptop goes to sleep when plugged into AC? I use i3 so I don't have the settings menu like you do in Unity/Gnome
[20:42] <rosco_y> how do I find where aptitude installs a particular app? (I want to launch it from a bash script)
[20:42] <rosco_y> hfp: I think that question depends on your ps
[20:43] <rosco_y> (ups)?
[20:43] <rosco_y> mine has a daemon with a comman-line interface.
[20:44] <rosco_y> sounds kind of gnarly, but it's actually quite straight-forward
[20:45] <MJ94> Hello. I put Ubuntu 18.04 on a flash drive for a friend. We would like to wipe Windows on her HP Pavillion G7; however, when we boot from the USB, it looks like the screen is turned counter-clockwise to the left and the mouse does not move in the expected direction. Do you know why?
[20:46] <rosco_y> MJ94: you might have to tweak your "Display" settings
[20:47] <MJ94> rosco_y: where would I do that?
[20:48] <MJ94> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/look-resolution.html.en
[20:48] <rosco_y> There is an app the "startup" menu under "Settings" called "Display"  click on that.  It might be a pain if everything is upside down, but I think it will solve your troubles.
[21:01] <tomreyn> MJ94: you can also rotate the screen from a terminal, using 'xrandr'
[21:02] <MJ94> tomreyn: when we go in the display settings, there is no option to change the orientation
[21:02] <MJ94> there's "display" and "resolution"
[21:03] <tomreyn> MJ94: i didnt say there was. let me check on a VM
[21:04] <MJ94> tomreyn: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/look-resolution.html.en
[21:04] <MJ94> Open the Activities overview and start typing Displays. Click on Displays to open the panel. If you have multiple displays and they are not mirrored, you can have different settings on each display. Select a display in the preview area. Select the resolution and rotation. --  there is no mention of "rotation." oh, sorry tomreyn it was rosco, not you
[21:06] <tomreyn> MJ94: np. i am there now and i see "orientation"
[21:06] <coolball> okay the one that was using the proper native res of 1920x1080 has reverted to 1024x768 ... so I did a restore factory settings on the monitor to no avail
[21:06] <tomreyn> MJ94: http://i.imgur.com/mGGIdIb.png
[21:09] <tomreyn> MJ94: do you not have these options on yours?
[21:09] <MJ94> tomreyn: checking, just a few moments. i am helping her remotely
[21:10] <tomreyn> oh, this can get tough with the people then
[21:10] <tomreyn> *three
[21:10] <MJ94> tomreyn: heh, she clicked "try without installing" and it's good now
[21:10] <MJ94> thanks.
[21:12] <tomreyn> nice
[21:14] <MJ94> tomreyn: we are trying to see if Ubuntu will recognize her trackpad. she got a new computer and HP is saying it's a windows issue...but Ubuntu doesn't recognize it either so far
[21:23] <tomreyn> MJ94: i'm not really good at fixing trackpad issues.
[21:23] <tomreyn> in my (limited) experience they either work or dont.
[21:24] <MJ94> tomreyn: thanks for all your other help!
[21:24] <tomreyn> MJ94: it wasn't much, good luck.
[21:49] <tallguy> hello #ubuntu folks, i'd like to know how to speed up very slow typing of letters and characters
[21:51] <coolball> is it a wireless keyboard?
[21:51] <coolball> if so... new batteries probly
[21:52] <tallguy> nope wired
[21:53] <tomreyn> unless it's you doing slow input, then it's probably a hardware issue with the keyboard, such as bad / galf broken cable.
[21:53] <tallguy> typing is painfully slo and i miss many characters by typine at ant but very slow pace
[21:53] <tomreyn> try the same keyboard on another computer, or in BIOS, see if it's also slow there
[21:54] <tallguy> slow input tomreyn? is that a setting?
[21:54] <tomreyn> tallguy: not that i know of
[21:54] <tallguy> thank you, i have not switched out the KB
[21:55] <tomreyn> you asked about "how to speed up very slow typing of letters and characters" - this could also have meant you're looking for training material on how to learn typing faster. so i wasn't sure what you are referring to
[21:56] <Xcytre> There is a 'Slow Keys' setting in System Settings, Universal Access
[21:56] <sonicwind> yeah I was thinking accessibility options maybe
[21:56] <Xcytre> i had to google it
[21:57] <sonicwind> yep, think you hit on something... that's exactly what it does
[21:57] <sonicwind> just looked in my settings
[21:58] <sonicwind> check your Universal Access settings, tallguy
[21:58] <sonicwind> its under "Typing" tab on 16.04 LTS
[21:59] <sonicwind> not sure why someone would want that... what is that supposed to solve?
[22:33] <tallguy> thanks sonicwind, it was 'slow keys' setting. all good now :)
[22:41] <mezod> I've installed ghost, and when I run it it says it's running on localhost:2368, hhowever, if I run namp -p 2368 nothing shows up on the list, is this normal?
[22:41] <tomreyn> tallguy: is it possible that you manually enabled this? otherwise, if it would have been enabled by just a keyboard combo or something, this would be good to keep in mind for the next person running into this.
[22:42] <tomreyn> mezod: what is "ghost"?
[22:42] <tomreyn> and what is "namp"?
[22:43] <tomreyn> maybe 'namp' is 'nmap'?
[22:44] <tallguy> i just recently got the PC tomreyn, it had ubuntu 16.04 LTS o/s installed so i'm finding it's issues as i familarize
[22:44] <mezod> tomreyn: yes sorry nmap, ghost is a blogging platform
[22:45] <mezod> I'm just trying to set it up with caddy instead of nginx and I keep getting this "Cannot GET /" so trying to make sure ghost is actually running on port 2368
[22:57] <tomreyn> mezod: "lsof -i :2368" will tell you wheter, and if so, what, is listening on this port.
[22:57] <tomreyn> for getting help with non ubuntu software, refer to their respective support forums.
[22:57] <tomreyn> s/forums/channels/
[22:58] <mezod> yeah, I was just trying to figure out the port thing that's why I came here, thanks, apparently nothing's running on that port
[23:00] <coolball> there is definitely a correlation... if it uses the native res it also does t he installation dialog... if it uses 1024x768 it just thinks forever... do I maybe want to try ubuntu 16 instal of 18?
[23:01] <qwebirc40249> Hi!
[23:01] <qwebirc40249> I just installed ubuntu 18.04
[23:01] <coolball> congratulations!
[23:01] <qwebirc40249> But my speakers are not listed in the sound options
[23:02] <qwebirc40249> only headphones are lised as built in, and they are not even connected
[23:02] <qwebirc40249> how can i fix this issue?
[23:11] <tomreyn> !audio | qwebirc40249
[23:11] <tomreyn> i hope this actually exists on 18.04... this hint was weitten for an earlier version
[23:12] <tomreyn> but the general sound architecture should still be the same. so give that troubleshooting guide a try.
[23:20] <feuli> is "sudo -s" different than "su" ?
[23:21] <sonicwind> tomreyn, apparently Slow Keys will get enabled if you hold down the Shift key for more than 8 seconds. Hold it down again for 8+ seconds to disable it. So I read anyways. Good to know. Will also tag tallguy on this.
[23:21] <coolball> there is definitely a correlation... if it uses the native res it also does the installation dialog... if it uses 1024x768 it just thinks forever... do I maybe want to try ubuntu 16 instal of 18?
[23:23] <coolball> I only got it to use 1080 and install properly one time
[23:26] <tomreyn> thanks sonicw1nd
[23:27] <sonicwind> glad I found out about that, as occasionally I do hold the shift key down for awhile.