professhow come i am able to do `ssh user@www.profess.com` but I can't do `ssh user@profess.com`? My A record is `@.profess.com` points to the right IP00:06
leonarduswhy is the frame rate so low when I do this? https://streamable.com/48le400:07
leonardusI'm using 18.0400:07
Sven_vBprofess, do both hostnames resolve to the same IP when you resolve them locally at your machine?00:09
professSven_vB, profess.com resolves to nothing at all. :|00:10
blackflowprofess: you broke the zone00:10
Sven_vBprofess, now you know :)00:10
Sven_vBI don't think the "@" belongs in your A record line00:11
Sven_vBalso I thought @ was implicit on the right side00:12
professwell is it possible to just leave subdomain blank if you have access to the actual file? My registrar's interface only lets me do that, then it replaces it with the `@` symbol.00:13
blackflow@ is the origin of the zone, nothing do to with "right side"00:13
profess@ is supposed to work to let me do just profess.com according to everything i'm reading. I guess I'll just give it more time and stop messing with hosts and hostname.00:15
blackflow@ is the origin of the zone.  so if the zone is for     profess.com  then @ is profess.com. so at minimum you need      @ IN A <ipv4>    and you can have www (without dot) as CNAME for that00:17
blackflowprofess: here's the doc for more info: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch8/00:18
zmuggis it possible to create a partition to split the size of a disk that has already been partitioned? I want to split my disk into two partitions so I can use windows in one and ubuntu in the other, but how can I do this without losing the system that is already installed? (ubuntu mate)00:20
EriC^^zmugg: show a pastebin of "sudo parted -ls"00:21
EriC^^zmugg: you can shrink windows and ubuntu will use the unallocated space and make a partition00:22
EriC^^zmugg: nevermind the pastebin, use windows to shrink it with disk management tool, you might need to defrag first if it says it cant00:22
professThanks blackflow00:26
sartanHey there! is it possible to express an /etc/network/interfaces definition for a L2 vlan interface and have it come up automatically with the system, without an ip?  auto eth1.99; iface eth1.99... but this is incomplete.00:26
sartanhaven't been able to figure this out from grepping ifreload plugin00:26
sartaniface eth1.99 <stanza here> is required but unsure what to do to tell ubuntu to just simply bring it up and dont ask questions00:27
zmuggbut has no unallocated spaces00:29
=== perry is now known as Guest79071
zmuggis it possible for me to use the live cd with gparted installed to do this?00:35
=== bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan
=== Dreaman is now known as Blade
oerheksresize ubuntu mate? sure, if it is not encryptes, it is easy with the live iso + parted00:38
oerhekszmugg, ^^00:38
oerhekstons of howto's, https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-resize-partitions-with-the-ubuntu-or-gparted-live-cd00:39
EriC^^zmugg: yes use gparted, i thought you meant you had windows installed00:39
oerheksyour problem will be: after installing windows, you need to fire up the live iso again, to reinstall grub bootloader00:39
EriC^^zmugg: what oerheks said ^00:40
oerheksthat is why we advise to install windows first, but it can be done00:40
zmuggI'll create a backup as a precaution00:44
deznutzare there not any good python IDEs on the repos provided on install?00:46
thatlizdudedoes Ubuntu desktop include sshd preinstalled?00:49
thatlizdudeI have sshd_config file but I don't seem to have sshd installed00:49
sartandeznutz: pycharm or bust.. not in a repo, but just available as a .tar.gz with a shell script inside.00:50
tomreynthatlizdude: sshd is not installed by default on ubuntu desktop. and this configuration file would not be there either, unless you had sshd installed previosuly or placed it there.00:50
thatlizdudeoh I edited ssh_config00:51
tomreyndeznutz: thonny is readily available from apt. it's rather simple, though.00:51
tomreyndeznutz: you may find more available via !ppa or pip00:53
PythonMonadsHello, I am curious what the best e-mail client is for Exchange users? Is it pretty much Evolution or Thunderbird with Davmail these days?00:56
zmuggpersonally I do not like thunderbird, I have had many problems with it in mate00:57
=== ztrawhcse is now known as elibrokeit
PythonMonadsOh I see, what do you use @zmugg00:58
zmuggpigdin PythonMonads00:59
deznutzthanks Tomreyn01:05
deznutzok zmugg01:06
illuminatedI am trying to understand why as a normal user I cannot do a 'mysql -u root.'  It says 'access denied for root@localhost' but when I do sudo mysql it connects me without a password.  When I do a USE mysql; SELECT user, host, password FROM user; it shows me root@localhost w/ no password.  I assume that explains why I can login as root without a password, but the question I have is why I have to use sudo for it to work.  is it because it's01:21
illuminatedmatching user@localhost instead of 'root@localhost' when trying to connect and sudo changes the user to root?01:21
illuminatedsometimes it's not enough to know that something works, you want to understand 'why' it works.01:22
guivercilluminated: i don't know, but try `echo $USER $UID` with & without sudo; then `whoami` with & without sudo .. you'll note some detail changes with sudo, other doesn't.01:26
illuminatedguiverc: no change.  both reports the same username and uid01:28
illuminatedoh, interesting.  whoami reports differently though01:28
illuminatedone reports user, the other reports root.01:29
Antisocheilluminated: Well, here's a basic question. Let's assume it's okay for "sudo mysql" to work - it's run as root. If 'user' (any user) can say "mysql --hey-I'm-root", why would you expect (or want) that to work?01:30
illuminatedI never said it was 'ok.'  I just wondered why calling it with sudo worked and without did not.01:32
oerheksilluminated, since 16.04 : This means that a non-root user can't log in as the MySQL root user with an empty password.  >>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.701:32
bynwis a guest session still available for Ubuntu? and how would you set it up in bionic beaver?01:33
oerheksbynw, all versions have a guest session standard, logout, choose..01:33
oerheksdesktops, that is01:33
bynwthanks oerheks01:35
Antisocheilluminated: I agree; I just didn't consider your question completely. Based on oerheks' response, I would check the permissions of mysql.sock, wherever that's hiding these days01:35
bynwoerheks, no guest option was at the login screen. only my own username or a not listed link. when choosing not listed there is a prompt for a username and then a password and "guest" doesnt work. does it need to be enabled someplace. been trying to find it online and only finding stuff for older versions of ubuntu01:38
oerhekshow about top panel right side?01:38
oerheksif you delete your username, would do too i guess01:39
howudodatilluminated:  not sure about your configuration, but I can do mysql -u root with an empty password on my laptop (which just serves as a test environment).  runing 18.04 mysql 5.7.2201:41
illuminatedhowudodat: well, I'm running mariadb not straight mysql01:42
illuminatedand according to https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/authentication-plugin-unix-socket/    socket auth is default with mariadb since ubuntu some version or another back01:42
bynwoerheks, looks like 18.04 uses GDM/GNOME which doesnt support the guest session login. it was disabled with 16.10 according the an article i'm reading but there are work arounds01:42
howudodatilluminated: if you do select User, Host, HEX(authentication_string), plugin from mysql.user what is your root line?01:48
AntisocheI recently installed 18.04 on a machine with a USB Ethernet gadget. I want to give it a static IP and specified one in /etc/netplan/99-usb.yaml. But when I 'netplan apply' (or --debug apply) it fails because the file /sys/..../usb0/device/unregister doesn't exist. Unfortunately I'm asking from memory; netplan sees this as a hotplug device and tries to replug it but the device/un<something> directory and file don't exist. So, absent this,01:50
Antisoche what is the "right" way to give device 'usb0' a static IP in bionic?01:50
illuminatedhowudodat: | user | host      | authentication_string | plugin      |01:50
illuminated| root | localhost |                       | unix_socket |01:50
illuminated1 row in set (0.01 sec)01:50
bazhangilluminated, pastebin please01:51
granttrecso I have the following sudo policy : https://paste.ee/p/r45UK how can I get this policy to show up in ubuntu software, it just shows my superuser account instead (has sudo access)01:52
howudodatilluminated: ok, so my install isn't fresh, but I keep migrating my db (been doing it this way since 12.04).  you can do this: ALTER USER 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED WITH mysql_native_password BY ''; and it should work.01:52
illuminatedhowudodat: cool01:54
=== padgaland_ is now known as padgaland
illuminatedhowudodat: IDENTIFIED WITH changes which authentication plugin your db user is authed by.  You can view the options with this SQL query:  SELECT plugin_name, plugin_type FROM information_schema.plugins WHERE plugin_type='authentication';02:10
howudodatilluminated: that is correct.02:20
hayshaha this system76 ad is pretty funny. "I don't want a TV with a keyboard!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcWVKqeF0MY02:22
haysbut i do wonder if this laptop gets more than 3 hrs battery life :)02:22
haysoops im in the wrong channel02:22
howudodatilluminated: as I understand it <insert every imaginable disclaimer here> socket auth uses the logged in users credentials by retrieving the uid.  This would render -u root superfluous.  since the local user doesn't have an entry in the user table for authenication you get denied.  sudo pulls in the uid of root and that is allowed in the table.  If you dont want that change to mysql_native auth.  (I may not have explained tht 100% corr02:27
howudodatect, but the gist of it should be fairly close)02:27
max3can someone tell me what the hell i'm doing wrong: https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/dig/#A/afiction.org A record gives the right thing but navigating in my browser gives me no page02:27
max3like is it really possible google's dns is updated but mine isn't02:28
illuminatedhowudodat: yeah, that's kinda what I read as well02:29
howudodatmax3: afiction.org returns a chart02:30
max3howudodat, lol i guess my dns is gimped for real02:30
howudodatmax3: try dig afiction.org....or nslookup, then set type=a, then set debug, then afiction.org02:31
howudodatboth tools will give you some extra hints02:31
max3how do i set ...? dig from terminal returns a response that says there's no answer02:32
howudodatmax3:ping afiction.org02:32
howudodatdoes it respond with anything?02:33
max3name or service not known02:33
max3oh nm it's all set now (what i really wanted to google to see a TXT record)02:34
max3thanks howudodat02:34
ghostnik11hey i have some kernels (old ones that i added my self and i want to get rid of them so i can get some disk space back) but autoremove and autoclean doesn't delete them and free up space02:50
krytarikYes, because you added them specifically.02:52
leftyfbghostnik11: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/apt-autoremove-old-kernels02:53
titanxgood evening all02:56
buthow0almost midnight for me02:56
jpmhI'm looking for text to speech = something better in quality than eSpeak - but like espeak - any suggestions?02:56
buthow0bout to say good morning02:56
ghostnik11krytarik, leftyfb: yeah i was trying to do it just via commands in terminal. the only way i can do it is if i run a script? there has to be another way. and i don't understand, just becasue i added them my self, ubuntu can not autoremove them?02:56
titanxi just installed kubuntu 18.04 lts and having issues with copying files to my second hard drive and also the usb..in dolphin file browser my main hard drive has a green icon to the left of it and the others have a red icon?02:56
titanxgood morning aswell02:57
leftyfbghostnik11: that script will do the work for you02:57
titanxu think it is permissions related ?02:57
ghostnik11leftyfb, so that means everytime i add a kernel manually, i will have to run this script to remove them?02:58
leftyfbghostnik11: no, you can remove them manually if you like02:58
ghostnik11leftyfb, yeah but with this script i am going to have to first make it using text editor then i have to make it run then i will have to put it in the command window. can02:59
ghostnik11can't we just have one command to do that all for me02:59
ghostnik11leftyfb, i will copy and paste it into a txt file now and get started on it03:00
ic56ghostnik11, if you added the kernels manually, then it's easiest to remove them manually too.  After all, you know which ones you added and which ones you no longer need.03:01
ghostnik11ic56, yeah but i added them through, command. i figured i could just uncommand them or something03:02
ic56ghostnik11, I don't understand.  What do you mean "through command"?  What command?03:03
ghostnik11ic56, like going into terminal and telling it to add this kernel from like the kernel website or download it first from kernel website then run command to add the kernel03:04
buthow0Is anyone able to troubleshoot this? https://www.ffxiah.com//forum/topic/52488/the-windower-50-alpha/1/#3356128 Supposedly from a couple sources Ashita is supposed to work while old versions of windower never has (but i am unable to get it going https://www.ashitaxi.com/ ) "Im on Ubuntu 18.04 & i can run Vanilla XI np its golden but when it comes to API i get no luck ;; https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2886103:04
ubottubugs.winehq.org bug 28861 in imm32 "Final Fantasy XI hangs after character selection" [Normal,New]03:04
buthow0 http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/download/media/install_win.html this is where you can get the base came & well03:04
buthow0 While you cant play without a monthly fee i dont even think you would need to actually run the game updates & get beyond base installation to troubleshoot this03:05
buthow0 + honestly if Ashita was to run then that would give you access to private servers but yea trying to crossover from windows to linux I couldnt success soo far03:05
buthow0 & theres reports of Ashita working... In other word if i could get that to run on ubuntu than more than likely Windower5 Beta would work too as its requiring same components as far as i can tell03:05
buthow0 heres claim that Ashita should be working on linux https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxi/comments/7acvgv/does_ffxi_run_very_well_under_linux_thinking_of/ On top of the initial Windower5 Beta link that i gave first where someone claim that they got it working on Wine also03:05
ic56ghostnik11, So, after downloading, what command did you use to add each kernel?03:05
buthow0For years ppl asked if windower could work on linux & the answer was no as you can see here : http://forums.windower.net/index.php@sharelink=download%3BaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy53aW5kb3dlci5uZXQvaW5kZXgucGhwPy90b3BpYy8xMDcyLXJ1bm5pbmctd2luZG93ZXItd2l0aC1mZnhpLXRocm91Z2gtd2luZS8,%3BUnVubmluZyBXaW5kb3dlciB3aXRoIEZGWEkgKHRocm91Z2ggV2luZSk,.html but i thought Windower5 would fix that maybe no longer needing dependencies of like03:05
tomreyn!paste | buthow003:06
ubottubuthow0: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:06
buthow0netframework 3.5-40 as its up to 4.7 now but I have been failing at getting it solved03:06
buthow0 Ashita was alternative & assuming it would run, more than likely the new windower would too. That was my question Whew sorry for the spam03:06
leftyfbbuthow0: go to #winehq for help03:06
titanxwell i am gonna mess with the permissions gots to be that03:07
ghostnik11ic56, sudo dpkg -i *.deb03:09
tomreynghostnik11: for those kernel images you have in /boot, you can get the packages they were installed from like this: dpkg -S /boot/*linu*03:10
titanxw00t w00t03:10
titanxLINUX 4 LIFE03:10
buthow0HERE! https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fkpK9wvHbj/03:12
ghostnik11tomreyn, yeah there is 3 there. one is the current kernel i am using. then you have two more that i can uninstall to save disk space03:12
ghostnik11tomreyn, ic56 linux-image-4.4.0-130-generic: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-130-generic03:12
ghostnik11dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-130-generic.efi.signed03:12
ghostnik11linux-image-4.9.87-040987-generic: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.87-040987-generic03:12
ic56ghostnik11, Ah, I see.  In that case, assuming you still have the *.deb files, the easiest way might be sudo dpkg -r FILE.deb  Where "FILE" is any package you want to remove.03:12
tomreynghostnik11: here's a better script: awk '/^[[:blank:]]*linux/ {print "/boot"$2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep -v 'signed' | sort | uniq | xargs dpkg -S03:16
tomreyn!paste | ghostnik1103:16
ubottughostnik11: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:16
tomreynghostnik11: those you want to uninstall you can run 'apt purge' against. but you'll probably want to uninstall headers as well, incase those are seperately packaged. this will list all linux* packages (probably including the headers, if any): dpkg -l 'linux*'03:18
tomreynghostnik11: also, some of these packages may have been installed thorugh meta packages. the 4.4.0-130 kernel image is a dependency of the linux-image-generic package on ubuntu 16.04, for example - but i dont know which ubuntu version you are running, did you discuss it?03:20
ghostnik11tomreyn, i am running 16.0403:21
tomreynbuthow0: (as lefty said) please ask in #winehq, we can't really help with making windows programs work through wine here.03:22
buthow0tomreyn how come? i went there& ill stick to it but im looking for help nearly everywhere all i get is ppl running from it like hell03:22
tomreynghostnik11: ok, that's good to know. :)03:22
ic56ghostnik11, tomreyn: I'm off.  Catch you later.03:22
ghostnik11ic56, okay bro, thanks for the help03:23
buthow0tomereyn if you dont know how sure just say it but so far all i get is getting swiped off as idk,,,03:23
tomreynbuthow0: would you join #windows and ask them how to make some closed source linux game work on windows?03:23
buthow0tomreyn we are in 2018 & tbh no im here because of that because i try to move from windows03:24
tomreynbuthow0: software made for a different platform is best used there only.03:24
buthow0tomereyn if anything im trying to have linux adapt further, while i do desire to learn more myself, i could just ignore it & stay on my other computer but i wanted to try linux forever03:24
buthow0tomreyn theres testiomys of it working tho & if you clicked th elinks i gave you the guy that created the new beta API himself say it should work on linux & that he would like it to03:25
buthow0tomereyn but of course because video game! its not important for ubuntu developpers...03:26
tomreynbuthow0: i like that you try linux. i'm just saying we cvan't support you in making windows applications and games work on linux here, unless they are built for linux. in fact we only support applications available in ubuntu here (and sometimes a little bit more).03:26
buthow0ffs i need a new keyboard03:26
tomreynbuthow0: this is not the place to discuss this. please move this elsewhere. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for non support topics.03:27
tomreyn(I'll be happy to talk a bit more there)03:28
buthow0Im unable to join channel tomreyn03:33
tomreyn!register | buthow003:34
ubottubuthow0: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.03:34
tomreynyou'll need to have your nickname registered to join03:35
ghostnik11tomreyn, the apt purge worked, thanks bro. i got rid of 4.9.8 kernel and 4.0.4 kernel and freed up more than 500mb04:01
tomreynghostnik11: welcome. hope you'll still boot successfully then.04:03
ghostnik11tomreyn, lol, we will see04:03
sirensari2is this normal for a machine without nfs installed? and for none of the inodes to show up in /proc/net/unix ? http://termbin.com/dd0k04:05
sirensari2it's an ovh dedi04:05
oerhekssirensari2, could wel be, ovh provides a heavily tweaked system04:07
sirensari2oerheks, i used the non ovh kernel or w/e they call it04:07
oerhekssirensari2, better reask in #ovh ( unofficial support )04:08
tomreynghostnik11: su be sure to run update-grub, and check its output04:08
sirensari2it's not normal though right ?04:08
sirensari2i guess ill just spin up a vps to test04:09
ghostnik11tomreyn, yeah it updated and only shows my current kernel and also the efi option for my android x86 boot. so i think i am safe04:25
kuttGot to move/resize my current /home partition live04:34
kuttPlease help04:34
oerhekskutt, boot a live iso, open gparted and do so?04:35
tomreynkutt: and before you do this, make backups.04:36
kuttgiven i dont have a live iso right now04:37
kuttCan this be done with tty04:37
oerheksshort answer: no.04:37
tomreynbecause we're too lazy to guide you through it.04:38
JimBuntu!cookie | tomreyn04:38
ubottutomreyn: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!04:38
tomreynthe other approahc is much easier and less error prone04:38
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:38
JimBuntulolz. Speaking the truth though.04:38
=== bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan
kuttHmm really good support04:43
aelsilmaredhkutt: Do you need to make it bigger or smaller?  What do you mean by "move?04:43
tomreynyes, we're kind enough to save you from mistakes you don't want to make.04:44
kuttmake it smaller04:44
guiverckutt: you expect free support from people where it takes a long time, is risky? (unless you know what you're doing) - you expect a bit much in my view.  using a 'live' is user level work; not cli04:44
aelsilmaredhkutt: if you're going to make it smaller, make sure you back up all your data.  shrinking a partition has a risk of data loss especially with low disk space04:45
kuttI am free to take risk .04:45
tomreyngrowing, too, or any kind of partition table edits.04:46
aelsilmaredhyou'll need a livecd or live usb of some linux (the lighter the better).  Before you boot into it, run "cat /etc/fstab" and "cat fdisk -l"04:46
oerheksgrowing might be possible, but shrinking .. well, you find out.04:46
aelsilmaredhwrite down the output or print it04:47
oerheksahhh .. but he does not want livecd, just tty04:47
aelsilmaredhwell by live I mean live console too04:47
aelsilmaredhyou can't format a mounted disk04:47
aelsilmaredhso boot into the livecd or liveusb and if you prefer console mode, run parted04:48
aelsilmaredhthe interface is pretty intuitive.  The /etc/fstab file will tell you which partition is mounted on /home04:48
oerheksif he had, we saved 10 minutes04:49
oerheks<kutt> given i dont have a live iso right now04:49
aelsilmaredhthen fdisk -l shows you the layout so you cn locate the partition04:49
aelsilmaredhwithin parted, help will display the command list.04:49
aelsilmaredhjust resize whichever partition /home is mounted on (parted allows size specification in KB, MB, GB, etc instead of sector sizes, which is convenient).  Hopefully its near the end of your drive, before the swap space.04:50
oerheksyour linux is in one extended partition, like ubuntu 18.04 does standard now. there is no seperate /home/04:52
aelsilmaredhyeah your swap space and linux is a single partition divided into "logical partitions"04:53
aelsilmaredhyou have two Windows partitions...do you happen to know why its set up like that?04:54
kuttok if you think its complicated , then one thing can I just want to copy the bytes from /home to /dev/sdb (new ssd) ?04:54
aelsilmaredhyou have another drive available? are you using it for anything?04:55
kuttgiven /home is a folder not a separate drive04:55
kuttya an empty one04:55
kuttto keep backup04:55
kuttI just want to copy bytes through dd04:55
aelsilmaredhok...make sure you read up on this a little before executing...04:55
aelsilmaredhyeah it would be:04:56
aelsilmaredhdd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=51204:56
kuttbut copy not possible through dd for directory04:56
aelsilmaredh"/dev/sda" and "/dev/sdb" are files, not directories04:57
aelsilmaredhlinux treats all devices as files04:57
kuttya what can be done for directory then. It gives error04:58
kuttdd: reading '/home': Is a directory04:59
aelsilmaredhit won't copy a directory.  You don't need to.  Copying sda to sdb should transfer all data from one drive to another, with all metadata about directory hierarchies intact04:59
kuttbut problem is /dev/sdb is 120gb sdd04:59
kuttand sda is 500 gb hdd05:00
tomreynkutt: you can either image the entire linux / partiiton, or, probably the better option, create an archive of the /home directory tree.05:00
T3ssHi all, I was previously running Ubuntu 16.x on this hardware. I have since done a clean install of Ubuntu 18, but having done so, my maximum resolution is less than it was before. Where should I start for investigating this? lshw gives me this: product: 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Which I know is not a fantastic card, but it's capable of more than 1024x768, which is the current max in05:00
aelsilmaredhthat's an option if you have the disk space.  You can tar the entire home directory, mount /dev/sdb, and copy to it.  You'll need to format sdb first, of course05:01
kutttomreyn : second option looks better05:01
kuttalone is 287G05:02
aelsilmaredhso, format the disk first.  My favorite console tool when I don't have to resize is cfdisk...in that case its cfdisk /dev/sdb05:02
kutt* root alone05:02
aelsilmaredhtar can compress the directory and it will probably fit in 250GB05:02
tomreynkutt: what are / were your plans for sdb?05:03
guivercT3ss: try hitting <super> and typing display; I can view & change resolution from there.  (this is vague sorry, as I'm using xfce & can't seem to find the gnome-settings at the moment)05:03
tomreynkutt: did you mean to use it some otherway?05:03
guivercT3ss: sorry you've already tried - my mistake05:04
aelsilmaredhkutt:  I'm thinking your best option is to back up all your data in /home  on the blank drive and then reinstall Linux05:04
T3ssguiverc: yeah, the max in there is 1024x768, but I had higher options in Ub 16.x05:04
aelsilmaredhit's probably possible to do the entire root filesystem...but only if you know you've got the space for it05:05
kuttspace only for /home folder05:05
kuttis reformatting required ?05:05
aelsilmaredhok so cfdisk /dev/sdb (or your preferred partition editor...)05:06
aelsilmaredhif sdb is empty, its not formatted05:06
kuttformatted as NTFS05:06
aelsilmaredhoh, that's workable05:07
aelsilmaredhso you don't have to05:07
kuttok then just rysnc ?05:07
aelsilmaredhfirst find an empty folder to mount it on...try "ls /mnt"05:07
aelsilmaredhif that folder is empty, thats a good place05:07
aelsilmaredhrsync? prob not necessary05:08
aelsilmaredhI'm thinking just archive and compress all of /home...you'll save space05:08
kuttalready mounted on /media05:08
kuttas NEw_VOlume_05:08
aelsilmaredhoh word...so here's the command to run05:08
kuttas New Volume_05:08
aelsilmaredhfirst, do you have enough space on your current drive to hold a copy of all of /home?05:10
aelsilmaredhjust temporarily05:10
kuttya man05:10
kuttall empty05:10
aelsilmaredhgo to / and run05:10
aelsilmaredhsudo tar cvjf home.tar.bz2 /home05:11
kutton / or /media/New Volume05:11
aelsilmaredhit will output every single file it works on, which is what the v does...(you can omit the v if you don't want to see it)05:11
guivercT3ss: i'm at a loss sorry, other than to check your cable connections aren't loose  (yes I've seen it reduce resolution)05:12
aelsilmaredhactually yeah, try navigating to /media/New Volume05:12
aelsilmaredhthen run the command05:12
aelsilmaredhtar -cjf home.tar.bz2 /home05:12
aelsilmaredhit'll take awhile05:13
kuttI ran sudo tar cvjf home.tar.bz2 /home05:13
T3ssguiverc: I'm thinking of going into recovery mode and creating a xorg.conf.05:13
kuttI know, OK05:13
aelsilmaredhyeah that's right05:13
oerheksT3ss, maybe a factory reset of the monitor helps05:13
aelsilmaredhat the end, the other disk should contain the file "home.tar.bz2".  You can just unpack it to restore everything, including directory structure and permissions.  see man tar for more info. good luck05:14
T3ssoerheks: Not sure this monitor (a Samsung TV) supports that.05:14
tomreynT3ss: it will support unplugging thze power for 1 minute.05:16
T3sstomreyn: heh, ok, I'll try it.05:17
tomreynT3ss: i've actzually seen this help with edid issues, though on non 'smart' devices05:17
MysticReverieWhats thre best simple video editor in unbuntu that support smany formats. Mainly need it for simply editing/snipping video and converting. nothing fancy05:18
aelsilmaredhkutt: oh, one more thing.  Just check the tar file with ls -l to make sure it isn't owned by root05:19
oerheksMysticReverie, openshot, tons of others too https://itsfoss.com/best-video-editing-software-linux/05:20
T3sstomreyn: What's 'edid' ?05:20
tomreynT3ss: the data a monitor provides other devices to identify itself and its capabilities.05:21
MysticReverie'edit' ?05:21
MysticReverieoh lol05:22
MysticReveriei'm beginning to think tomreyn can cure  rainy day !05:24
tomreynunless there's an fsck wrapped command for it, no.05:28
MysticReverie'i'm a doctor Jim, not a mgician!'05:30
T3ssSo, I pulled the power on the tv for a couple of minutes, but display settings still only show up to 1024x76805:32
T3ssCould it be that wayland was a better server for my rig?05:33
oerheksT3ss, i was wondering the other way, xorg better?05:34
T3ssoerheks: isn't 18.04 defaulted to xorg?05:35
oerheksif you had better screendetection in wayland, i would switch back05:36
T3ssoerheks: was 16.x wayland or xorg?05:37
oerheksalso xorg, wayland started with 17.04 or 17.10, as default05:37
T3ssok, so to switch?05:38
T3ssI just log out and there should be an option on the login screen?05:38
oerhekslogout, click username, with password dialog you would see the settings icon to change05:39
tomreynT3ss: probably. before you do this, can you post the output of the "dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999" command?05:39
T3sswhat does nc termbin.com do?05:40
tomreynT3ss: it posts the log to this website05:40
T3sstomreyn: huh, cool05:41
tomreynT3ss: tell us the url, please, and repeat the process for 'cat .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999'05:41
T3sshttp://termbin.com/mhty <- dmesg05:43
T3sstomreyn: do you mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?05:44
T3sstomreyn: http://termbin.com/930u <- Xorg log05:45
jimMysticReverie, have you starred your trek today?05:45
tomreynT3ss: remove nomodeset05:46
T3sstomreyn: How do you mean? 'remove' isn't a valid command.05:47
tomreynT3ss: oh, i thought you'd know how it got there, since it's not there by default. ok, so run this in a terminal: sudo nano /etc/default/grub05:48
tomreynthere should be a line starting "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=", i it probably has "nomodeset" in it. if so, remove it. if not, is "nomodeset" listed elsewhere on this file?05:49
T3sstomreyn: I used a couple of xrandr commands to try and add the profiles, but reversed those when they didn't work.05:49
T3sstomreyn: no, "nomode" doesn't appear in the file.05:49
MysticReveriehow ot chang ethe size of the timeline and preview in kden live?   the timeline area is huge, and the vide opreview is very small.  but i cnat see to drag to chang ethe size05:50
tomreynT3ss: oh wait you did a recovery boot. can you not boot normally then?05:50
T3sstomreyn: no? I haven't dont a recovery boot. I was going to in order to generate a xorg.conf.05:50
tomreynT3ss: you can exit the file editor using ctrl-x, then answer to not save the file05:51
T3sstomreyn: thanks, I opened in vim anyway.05:51
T3sstomreyn: I did run "xrandr --newmode" and "xrandr --addmode"05:52
tomreynT3ss: the "dmesg" output you provided is definitely from your current session. it says "Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-23-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro recovery nomodeset", which means that your kernel was booted with the "recovery" option, which takes place when you select the recovery option from grub menu.05:52
T3sstomreyn: to try and manually add 1900x900 and 1920x1080 - but when I activated them in the gui it wasn'tg right. So I *thought* I removed them.05:52
T3sstomreyn: Ah, perhaps I haven't rebooted since I had gone into recovery for a separate issue.05:53
tomreynT3ss: ok, thanks for clarifying,. i don't think the two are related, though. can you reboot and post dmesg again, like before?05:53
T3sstomreyn: will do. Back soon.05:53
Guest116recently updated my xubuntu 18.04 laptop and rebooted... now it hangs starting gdm05:58
Guest116also weird is when I hit 'ctrl-alt-f3', keyboard stops working after about 30 seconds, and I have to hit ctrl-alt-f3 again to get back05:59
lotuspsychjeGuest116: do you have an error like starting gnome display manager link is not ready?05:59
Guest116any ideas as where to start trouble shooting?05:59
guivercGuest116: i'd suggest editing grub (E) and removing 'quiet splash' to see if useful messages appear during boot06:00
guivercps: 'quiet splash' are found on the linux (kernel) line06:00
Guest116okay I will try that now06:01
tomreynT3ss: did the reboot help?06:06
Guest116removed quiet splash and rebooted06:06
T3sstomreyn: can't currently boot. It keeps hanging just before the login screen.06:07
Guest116it's hung on '[ OK ] Started User Manager for UID 125'06:07
T3sstomreyn: (I'm on IRC on a different computer now)06:07
guivercGuest116: nothing unusual before that?  and can you ctrl+alt+f4 & use a terminal?  (I assume yes)06:08
Guest116also weird that my usb devices won't work either, though when I check /var/log/messages, it shows up that I'm connecting/disconnecting06:08
tomreynT3ss: ok, do you know how to bring up the grub menu and edit the linux boot parameters there?06:08
xubuntu1804Hi, syslog reports;  gvfsd-metadata[*]: message repeated 7 times: [ g_udev_device_has_property: assertion 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed]  ?? why ??06:09
Guest116and yes, I can ctrl-alt-f4 and access the tty06:09
lotuspsychjeGuest116: is your system up to date? if not: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade from tty06:09
T3sstomreyn: yes, I'm trying (again) with quiet and splash removed, but it doesn't seem to be taking effect.06:09
T3sstomreyn: It just goes to a blank screen for a while, and eventually loads a cursor in the bottom right but is unresponsive.06:10
tomreynT3ss: if this doesn't work either, then try recovery again, and choose to enable networking on the menu, then go to the root prompt.06:10
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: tell us the full story please, ubuntu version? what are you trying to do?06:10
Guest116though after about 10-15 seconds, the tty fails to take input and I have to ctrl-alt-f3 again06:10
T3sstomreyn: it was doing this before, I thought I'd fixed it, but apparently not. That's why it would have still been ia recovery boot before.06:11
Guest116lotuspsychje: I just did the update 30min ago, and that is what I believe caused this06:11
Guest116lotuspsychje: no packages need updating at this time06:11
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> xubuntu-18.04, full up to date, checking why I'm getting gvfs errors06:12
T3ssI'm interested to know what Guest116's issue is, because the snippets I've seen sound like what's happened to me.06:12
zuserI'm trying to figure out what device grub efi is installed on. I think I may have messed up and put it in multiple locations06:12
guivercGuest116: i don't know, it could be that gdm is restarted & takes control (switching to gui logically at least) but fails... forcing you to switch to term again... (guess only)06:12
lotuspsychjeGuest116 guiverc check my recent bug on gdm, (ubuntu-desktop) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/178098606:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1780986 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Boot stuck at ubuntu logo gnome display manager" [Undecided,Incomplete]06:13
zuserAny grub/EFI experts here?06:13
T3sstomreyn: ok, here we are again. I've gone into recovery, then enable networking. During the enable networkig phase it gets to "[ OK ] Reached target Swap" and then sits there. I've found if it Ctrl C, it moves on and boots.06:13
lotuspsychjezuser: best to ask your question to the channel06:14
xubuntu1804 <lotuspsychje> maybe; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1752091 ??06:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1752091 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "gvfsd-metadata[1703]: g_udev_device_has_property: assertion 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed" [Undecided,Incomplete]06:14
guivercGuest116: if you `dmesg|less` (hit G to jump to bottom) do you see any clues (are you capable of recognizing any)  then maybe journalctl..06:14
zuserDoes anyone know how to list where grub-efi is installing the bootloader?06:15
Guest116guiverc I did a /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop and now the tty issue doesn't happen anymore06:15
zuserAs in what device grub is installed to?06:15
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: yeah that bug looks usefull, have you affect yourself yet?06:15
guivercGuest116: have a look at lotuspsychje's suggested bug, your issue exactly - try what lotus suggested (work around) and see if it helps06:15
T3sstomreyn: confirmed again, I hit Ctrl C and now I'm at the login screen06:16
lotuspsychjeguiverc Guest116 not sure if it will work on xubuntu (ubuntu-desktop package)06:16
Guest116lotuspsychje guiverc thanks!06:16
Guest116will check now06:17
guivercGuest116: okay  - i forgot you were xubuntu (xfce) so maybe it's different, I still suggest try06:17
tomreynT3ss: it's possibly this issue ("getrandom hang") https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/177947606:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1779476 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 18.04: gdm3 does not switch to graphics after update" [High,Incomplete]06:17
tomreynenabling proposed and installing the kernel provided there should work around it06:18
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.06:18
guivercGuest116: please take note - if the purge gdm gdm3 has warning or error (such as doesn't exist) - stop there!06:18
lotuspsychje+1 guiverc06:19
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> sorry; have you affect yourself yet?  ??06:20
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: to the bug you found06:20
tomreynT3ss: okay, so the lower graphics mode will be a result of the nomodeset kernel parameter, which is a result of the recovery boot. so if we can fix your boot issue we have probably solved it all.06:20
T3sstomreyn: so, log in and enabled proposed?06:20
tomreynT3ss: that's what i suggest, yes.06:21
T3sstomreyn: thanks - I'll try that. And sorry for the screw up - I didn't realise I was still in rec mode. That was daft.06:21
tomreynT3ss: you could also boot an older patchlevel of this 4.15 kernel if you prefer, it's a little easier.06:21
tomreynT3ss: no problem ;) it was easy to find out once i had the dmesg output06:21
T3sstomreyn: How so? Don't I just go into software update and enable proposed?06:22
Guest116lotuspsychje / guiverc: I was able to fix the issue differently06:22
T3sstomreyn: yeah, but I'm not a complete noob - I should have seen that.06:22
Guest116lotuspsychje / guiverc: instead of gdm, I switched over to using lightdm06:22
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> my journalctl -xb & syslog show many entrys06:22
Guest116lotuspsychje / guiverc: life is good again;  Thanks for helping me work through the root cause!06:23
tomreynT3ss: you need to enable proposed *and* update repository infor *and* install the newer kernel version. but i guess it's pretty easy from the GUI, yes.06:23
lotuspsychje!yay | Guest11606:23
ubottuGuest116: Glad you made it! :-)06:23
guivercGuest116: yeah !06:23
tomreynT3ss: i'll bbiab06:23
Guest116I should check to see if there is a gdm bug for the most recent update06:23
lotuspsychjeGuest116: my bug happened twice recently06:24
Guest116well thanks again!!06:24
lotuspsychjeno sweat06:24
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> journalctl -xb | grep 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)'06:27
tomreynT3ss: i'm back06:29
T3sstomreyn: Great. Just installing the updates after adding proposed.06:29
tomreynT3ssokay, let me know how your next boot works out when you'll be ready for it. i'll be around.06:31
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> grep 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)' /var/log/syslog06:31
T3sstomreyn: so theoretically, once the new kernel is live, the boot issue should be resolved?06:32
MysticReverietomreyn  do you ever sleep or stop helping in here?06:32
tomreynT3ss: right06:32
tomreynMysticReverie: yes, but let's talk about non support things in -offtopic06:33
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/commit/d7e1397854f32e793b4f65d894908d67072dcb3f  ??06:36
T3sstomreyn: rebooted, and stuck at the splash screen with a dead mouse.06:36
T3sstomreyn: ^^ which is the same status as before the proposed update.06:37
tomreynT3ss: a pity. can you retry with nomodeset, set manually?06:38
T3sstomreyn: Going to rec mode, the new kernel is listed (4.15.0-27). I'll try enabling networking in that and see if it's the same issue.06:38
T3sstomreyn: stuck at "Reached target Swap" again.06:40
T3sstomreyn: ok, so I just add that to the kernel line?06:40
tomreynT3ss: can you do a cold reboot, so just power off, wait 10s, power on, boot with default (-27) kernel?06:41
T3sstomreyn: will do that now06:41
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: i advice you to add yourself affected to the bug you found, tell your whole story there, try a few steps (other kernel boot etc)06:44
T3sstomreyn: splash screen now. Will see if it gets to the login. Incidentally, you're right, the resolution is fine when botted normally.06:44
T3sstomreyn: hung on the splash screen. As soon as the cursor appears, hdd activity reduces to a trace amount, and the rat is dead.06:45
T3sstomreyn: so, same issue under -2706:45
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> ok, thanks, maybe fixed in new kernel??06:45
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: wich kernel are you on now?06:46
OlofLHello is there a working vncviewer for ubuntu 18? i installed gvncviewer and xtightvncviewer. but there is no appliaction in appliactions for it...06:46
tomreynT3ss: okay, can you boot the default kernel but without "quiet" and without "splash" so we'll know what the error is?06:46
lotuspsychje!vnc | OlofL06:46
ubottuOlofL: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:46
OlofLI need something lightweight that can open in GNS306:46
T3sstomreyn: yup, my hunch is it'll be stuck at the same line.06:46
lotuspsychjeOlofL: be carefull with vnc..its a security flaw to use06:47
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> Linux kunt 4.15.0-24-generic #26-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 13 08:44:47 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux06:47
tomreynT3ss: probably, but i'm hoping we'll have a better idea as to why06:47
OlofLlotuspsychje: its not a problem atm...06:47
OlofLi need simple vnc working06:47
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: can you test .23 plz?06:47
T3sstomreyn: to make sure my method is right. I hit 'e' on the grub entry, then change the 'linux' line to remove quet and splash, and then I just hit F10?06:48
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> ok, I'll report back, thanks, bye 4 now!06:49
tomreynT3ss: right, i'mnot 100% sure about f10, i usually use ctrl-x06:49
T3sstomreyn: it says either, I've tried Ctrl x this time. Reason for asking is that it then just goes to a blank (ubuntu brown coloured) screen. Whereas I thought it would go to a black screen with the raw boot process printed.06:51
T3sstomreyn: did the same this time. Sits there for a bit, then turns black. Then the cursor appears on a black screen. Shortly afterwards, the hdd stops its activity, and the cursor is non-responsive.06:52
tomreynT3ss: right, i had the same expectation there. not sure about the brown colored screen.06:52
T3sstomreyn: by brown coloured, I mean the same colour as the splash screen, just without the ubuntu logo06:52
tomreynT3ss: hmm, that's annoying. all i can think of now is (a) replacing gdm by lightdm and (b) nomodeset06:53
T3sstomreyn: happy with either.06:53
T3sstomreyn: I'll reboot so I can install lightdm06:53
tomreynT3ss: well nomodeset is easy, but wont get you a better resolution06:54
tomreynT3ss: right06:54
OlofLlotuspsychje: vinagre worked. but not xtightvncviewer or gvncviewer06:54
T3sstomreyn: anything else I can / should report for this bug?06:54
tomreynT3ss: we can look at the syslog later, and maybe learn more aboiut what is failing. we could also do this now.06:55
T3sstomreyn: I'd like my frustration to help the commuity if possible.06:56
T3sstomreyn: just booting into rec mode and then gui now06:56
T3sstomreyn: is lightdm just a matter of apt-get install lightdm?06:57
tomreynT3ss: :) much appreciated. we'd want to know what hapepend during the 'normal' boot, the one without recovery + nomodeset. so we'll need to look at syslog, but not at the latest records but at those about the non 'nomodeset' boot.06:57
tomreynT3ss: yes, probably, it should spawn a prompt asking you whether you'll want to use lightdm or gdm post installation06:58
T3sstomreyn: indeed it did.06:59
* tomreyn fingers crossed06:59
T3sstomreyn: ok, full reboot into -27 now?07:00
tomreynT3sssure, why not07:00
T3sstomreyn: strap in07:01
T3sstomreyn: sitting at the 'brown' blank screen...07:02
T3sshdd still active though.07:02
T3ssShe's not done yet07:02
T3sssplash screen07:02
T3ssresponsive cursor07:02
T3sslogin screen!07:02
T3ssWe're in, ahhhh my eyes are so much happier with this reso07:03
T3ssOk, so both problems fixed. Now what can I do to help the community with the gdm3 bug?07:03
tomreynT3ss: you can review your syslog, find the latest boot where you booted with normal boot options, so with "quiet" and "splash" (and then into gdm3), and see where it failed.07:05
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> Linux kunt 4.15.0-23-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 18:02:16 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux07:05
T3sstomreyn: up for talking me through that?07:05
tomreynT3ss: yes, i'm trying to look up the commands, give m a min07:05
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> grep 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)' /var/log/syslog07:05
T3sstomreyn: oh sure, sorry.07:06
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> Jul 13 17:00:33 kunt gvfsd-metadata[1441]: g_udev_device_has_property: assertion 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed Jul 13 17:00:38 kunt gvfsd-metadata[1441]: message repeated 33 times: [ g_udev_device_has_property: assertion 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed]07:06
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: ok, add this to the bug please, you tested .23 and did not help07:07
tomreynT3ss: that's fine. this will return the latest boot timestamps and the options used: sudo zgrep 'kernel.*Command line' /var/log/syslog* | sort -nr07:08
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> sorry, how do I add to bug list?07:08
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: do you have a launchpad account yet?07:08
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> sorry, no07:09
lotuspsychjexubuntu1804: you need to register first to put yourself affected07:09
oerhekslaunchpad account is not expensive07:09
tomreynT3ss: note down or tell me the file name and the timestamp for the last but one most recent boot with the 'splash' option07:09
tomreynT3ss: to explain: the latest boot with this option will be the one you just did, where you booted ito lightdm, and without an issue, as far as we know, so we're looking for the one before that07:11
tomreynT3ss: you can also just pipe this command into "nc termbin.com 9999" and we can look at it together if you prefer07:12
T3sstomreyn: I think I've got it, but I'll share anyway.07:13
xubuntu1804<lotuspsychje> <oerheks> ok thanks, should I wait for; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bionic-changes/2018-July/015544.html07:14
T3sstomreyn: http://termbin.com/w2s907:14
tomreynT3ss: so "Jul 13 15:55:49" is the one i guess07:16
tomreynT3ss: hmm you're on a newer kerne now, though, i'm wondering why it didnt find those.07:17
tomreynT3ss: there should have been a 4.15.0-27-generic line there07:17
T3sstomreyn: true...07:18
tomreynT3ss: can you run: "uname -r" just to confirm you're running -27 ?07:19
tomreynT3ss: also, "Jul 13 16:09:43" is how many hours ago now?07:20
tomreynT3ss: it's possbile that it didnt get to write the earlier logs to disk actually. can you pos tthe latest syslog? pastebinit /var/log/syslog07:21
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit07:21
T3sstomreyn: http://termbin.com/2hwx07:28
T3sstomreyn: sorry for the delay, pastebinit was timing out.07:28
tomreynT3ss: oh weird.07:29
tomreynT3ss: i'll look at the log for 5-10 minutes, to confirm it's gdm3 that got in the way, and then we can file a bug report?07:30
T3sstomreyn: sounds good07:30
tomreynT3ss: by the way, there's a firmware update available for this mainboard. it might improve a few things. unfortunately it won't provide mitigation of some of the "spectre"  vulnerabilities for this system, and those wont be available through microcode updates for this (old) cpu either. intel initially said they'd fix those old systems, too, but have since changed their mind.07:33
tomreynT3ss: in other words, buy new hardware sometime soon, don't rely on this system too much.07:33
T3sstomreyn: for stability or security reasons?07:34
tomreynthe bios update is at https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-G31M-S2L-rev-10#support-dl-bios (i'd do the beta, if it's the latest available, it's usually stable; you now have F6 06/05/2008)07:34
tomreynT3ss: security07:35
tomreynan attack could also impact stability, of course. but not so important.07:35
tomreynand only locally possible realistically07:35
T3sstomreyn: it's mostly just to hold backups, hobbying, and maybe netflix07:36
tomreynT3ss: ok, i just wanted to advise you so you won't use *this* computer to prepare disclosure of secret nsa material ;)07:42
T3sstomreyn: duly noted *Ctrl C!! Ctrl C!!!*07:43
tomreynT3ss: looking at the systemd log for this 'default' boot on the non 'proposed' (but current default, for 18.04) kernel, i don't see anythign that looks like a fatal error to me. it's possible that Xorg.*.log has something about it if we look at a log around Jul 13 15:56:08 - if this still exists.07:45
tomreynT3ss: but i suggest you just run "ubuntu-bug gdm3" now and report that you upgraded, that 16.04 worked fine, and what happened on the fully updated 18.04, as well as after enabled -proposed, with gdm3.07:46
tomreynand that lightdm worked around it.07:46
T3ss.tomreyn: I have a Xorg.1.log which is July 13, 17.0007:47
tomreynT3ss: that's the last modification time. if you look into it, you should see another timestamp saying when Xorg started, maybe that's around Jul 13 15:56:08 ?07:48
T3sstomreyn: k, I'm running the bug report07:49
tomreynT3ss: cool, you'll need to have or create a launchpad / ubuntu account to submit it, i'm afraid (it'll guide you).07:50
tomreynjust sayin, so you can cancel now if that's not an option07:50
tomreynhi roman_Tony07:51
qwebirc69547where I can find list of old kernels released for Ubuntu 16.04?07:52
tomreynqwebirc69547: i don't immediately know the answer to this question, but am wondering whether there may be a better approach to take. can you discuss what you'Re trying to achieve?07:53
oerheksin mainline you find 2.6 - 4.17+ http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/07:54
T3sstomreyn: just waiting for the confirmation email to authorise my account. SOOO many thanks for your help with all of this.07:55
qwebirc69547we found there is but introduced in Ubuntu 16.04 linux-image-4.4.0-127-generic kernel07:55
tomreynT3ss: thanks for posting the bug report and giving others a chance to benefit from the time we spent.07:55
qwebirc69547regarding iotop and /proc/PID/status07:56
qwebirc69547So I want to go through each kernel release note , which related after *0-12707:56
qwebirc69547released after*07:57
john_ramboI am getting this >>> https://paste2.org/asaPz0Y9 ....while running apt-get update ...Whats the solution ?07:58
dchotashey guys, can anyone help me understand if my headphone jack just straight up died? My laptop keeps outputing sound through the speakers even if I plug in my headphones08:00
tomreynqwebirc69547: if you are now running the latest ubuntu 4.4.0 kernel, you can look at the changelogs using apt-get changelog linux-image-$(uname -r)08:00
T3sstomreyn: what do you think would be a helpful bug summary?08:01
qwebirc83838Hi. When I want to stop kernel execution with 'echo g > /proc/sysrq-trigger', output says that this sysrq operation is disabled, even though all kernel options that should be enabled are enabled. What's wrong here?08:01
tomreynT3ss: intel 82G33/G31 GPU: gdm3 freezes before login, upgraded from 16.0408:04
T3sstomreyn: no, this wasn't upgraded. It was a clean 18 install08:04
tomreynT3ss: oh, sorry, that's an even better report then08:05
T3ss16 was previously installed, but wasn't upgraded08:05
tomreynT3ss: maybe this is better then: "18.04 with intel 82G33/G31 GPU: freezes before login, fresh install"08:06
tomreyndchotas: if you have another headphone or external speaker witht he same connector, see if this gets output in the same jack.08:08
tomreynqwebirc83838: many of the magic sysrq options are disabled by default for security reasons (a physically local attacker could use them to overcome a lock screen, for example)08:10
qwebirc83838How to enable them, then?08:11
tomreynqwebirc83838: see /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf08:11
T3sstomreyn: bug reported. #178155008:12
tomreynbug #178155008:12
ubottubug 1781550 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "18.04 with intel 82G33/G31 GPU: freezes before login, fresh install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178155008:13
T3sstomreyn: now to prepare for guests to arrive. Thanks again for your help08:13
tomreynT3ss: welcome, see you08:13
=== T3ss is now known as Sh4d03
qwebirc15269good morning. I would like to upgrade 14.04 to 16.04 but all the guides I'm reading make tell me how to go to the latest version, whereas I need to specify a newer but not the latest - any hints ?08:13
oerheksqwebirc15269, if you upgrade to 16.04, you would get the lates 16.04.5 ...08:14
oerheksif you don't want that,. do a fresh install and do not upgrade.08:15
qwebirc15269sorry, maybe I explained poorly08:16
oerhekssecurity-wise and bug-wise your demand is odd, yeah08:17
tomreynqwebirc15269: since upgrading LTS releases to 18.04 is not yet supported, 16.04.5 IS in fact the latest version you can currently upgrade to, if you follow the LTS upgrade path08:17
qwebirc15269I was just looking to use do-release-upgrade but only go 14.04 to 16.04 not 18.0408:17
qwebirc15269although I think tomreyn just gave me the answer08:18
dchotastomreyn: I've tried other headphones and external speakers aswell, the sound keeps coming from the laptop speakers08:18
oerheks18.04 upgrade path will be available when 18.04.1 is released08:18
dchotastomreyn: I've also tried a couple things software wise: force reloading alsa, modprobing all it's sound drivers08:18
oerheksin 2 weeks, AFAIK08:18
qwebirc15269perfect ! thanks all08:18
tomreynqwebirc15269: run "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk --open-tab=2" and make sure it says "For long-term support releases" on the bottom.08:19
tomreynqwebirc15269: then close it and run "update-manager -c"08:19
qwebirc15269it's console only, but I think I've seen the equivalent check in a guide08:20
tomreynqwebirc15269: Prompt=lts in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades; do-release-upgrade08:21
tomreyn!sound | dchotas see the link in the end:08:22
ubottudchotas see the link in the end:: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.08:22
qwebirc15269ty tomreyn08:22
qwebirc69547Thanks . i got released noted by 'apt-get changelog linux-image-$(uname -r)'08:24
tomreyndchotas: you could also ask in #alsa (i *think* this exists, if not, check their website for the right channel or use !alis to search it). i rmemeber that i had a similar issue once, and one of the alse developers told me this can happen if the electrical resistence is too low on this jack to surpass the threshold where a  plugged-in device is detected. apparently they have databases for every audio chipset defining these thresholds, and not all08:25
tomreynare always dcorrect.08:25
tomreyndchotas: but this is just from memory, might not be 100% coirrect.08:25
tomreynqwebirc69547: i was a little silly there, you could just have specified "apt-get changelog linux-image-4.4.0-127-generic"08:26
tomreynhi DamBedEi08:29
aLeSDhi all08:30
aLeSDis it possible to have a shorter sidebar ?08:31
dchotastomreyn: so this could ahve been caused by an update to alsa?08:31
aLeSDSomething similar to OSX more than a bar that take all the size of the screen ...08:31
tomreyndchotas: probably not an update, but mabye an upgrade.08:34
tomreyndchotas: i.e. just installing security patches should not introduce such issues.08:35
empedokles78Hi, is there a viable alternative for filemaker under ubuntu?09:49
oerhekslibre office base perhaps?09:51
jinkempedokles78: What are you looking for, specifically?09:52
empedokles78jink: I need to print article numbers with product titles (labels).09:53
jinkAnd those are in FileMaker already?09:54
lotuspsychjeempedokles78: sounds more like calc job09:54
lotuspsychje!info kexi | empedokles7809:56
ubottuempedokles78: kexi (source: kexi): integrated database environment for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.1.0-2 (bionic), package size 1738 kB, installed size 7607 kB09:56
empedokles78jink, no, I have done things like that in filemaker once on mac, it had good printing capabilities.09:57
gebbionehi, my openssh is v.7.2 ... any way i can upgrade it to 7.3 so Include works?09:57
gebbioneasking because i would expect ubuntu to update it on its own09:57
empedokles78not sure how I can get calc to print labels.09:57
lotuspsychje!latest | gebbione09:58
ubottugebbione: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.09:58
lotuspsychjeempedokles78: you can check the #libreoffice channel mate, they might help you print labels10:00
lotuspsychjenoodleking: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?10:02
noodlekingIs there a good web resource for understanding the networking changes since 16.04?10:02
noodlekingI'm trying to setup a static IP and a LAMP environment, following the generic online tutorial for LAMP but ... the network interface has clearly changed with eth0 nowhere to be found and in its place some emp0s thing.10:03
noodlekingI want to just understand what the changes are, what they mean - if anything - and how to work around them for the purposes of setting up a LAMP dev environment in a VM in windows.10:04
lotuspsychjenoodleking: are you running ubuntu serverN10:04
noodlekingI downloaded ubuntu server, not sure what the N signifies though.10:06
guivercnoodleking, this may help with the reasoning for eth0 -> .... nic name change (https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/)10:06
empedokles78lotuspsychje, what would you recommend? kexi or calc?10:06
noodlekingthanks guiverc, I'll have a read of that.10:06
guivercempedokles78, the best is probably a personal preference; kexi is from the calligra suite, calc is from libreoffice...10:13
Gabe_H_Coudhey guys, how can I prevent a non-sudo users SFTP access to only a single folder - i.e. I dont want them to be able to download other files from other folders10:25
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: sudo and SFTP don't have anything in common. To prevent a user with some uid/gid to access a folder, the folder must not be readable and "executable" for that uid and gid.10:27
Gabe_H_CoudBlackflow: thanks! Is there a way to apply read and exec permissions to ALL folders/files for a given user without affecting other users?10:29
empedokles78guiverc, thanks. the openoffice way so far seems not very intuitive (seriesletter-assistant).10:31
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: not sure I understand what you're asking, what does "for a given user" means? you apply modes to directories, optionally in a recursive fashion, or using `find` to filter files/dirs in that hierarchy.10:31
Gabe_H_Coudblackflow he is the scenario: I need to give a dev front-end access only to 2 folders. However, With filezilla, the user can currently browse all the other folders and though they cant alter them, they can download the files/folders to their local devices.10:33
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: SFTP access is FTP over ssh. It means it's using SSH mechanics for accessing the system. which means when a user logs in, they're usually "starting" with their home directory. So all dirs/files in it, and _below_, would be accessible. If you want to prevent access to and dir, in _that_ hierarchy (below the "starting dir"), you must use directory permissions.10:39
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: if however you're talking about accessing dirs _outside_ the "starting directory", then you must apply ssh chrooting for that user.10:39
blackflowtypically, users should have full access to their home dirs and all in it, chrooted so they don't access anything outside it.10:40
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: s/to and dir/to files and dirs/10:40
tomreynthis sounds like the users' sftp access is currently too wide. you should instead setup an stfp chroot, restricting this users' sftp access to their home directory (and its subdirectories) only. and optionally bind-mount additional directories into their home directory so that they can accesss this, too.10:42
Gabe_H_Coudblackflow thanks a lot mate! looking into chroot now!10:44
Gabe_H_Coudtomereyn thats exactly what I am trying to do10:44
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: check ChrootDirectory directive of sshd_config manpage, it explains everything.10:44
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: note however that when you chroot a user like that, they will only be able to access that system via SFTP, but not through regular SSH. For regular SSH you'll need to do bind some devices and shells in their chroot10:45
Gabe_H_Coudblackflow: nothing with Chroot currently exists - I guess thats why10:45
Gabe_H_Coudblackflow: thats fine. for this specific user no ssh access will be required, purely SFTP10:46
blackflowyeah by default ssh users have full system access (subject to regular permissions of course)10:46
tomreynbind mount: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/198590/what-is-a-bind-mount10:47
empedokles78Is this the newest libreoffice for my 16.04 LTS?: Version:
empedokles78Build-ID: 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial310:48
tomreyn!info libreoffice xenial10:49
ubottulibreoffice (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial3 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 17 kB10:50
oerheks6.0 is available https://snapcraft.io/libreoffice10:50
tomreynempedokles78: yes, unless you'll use the snap or ppas10:50
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge10:50
empedokles78tomreyn, they told me it's quite old in the libreoffice channel. do you recommend 6.0?10:51
tomreynempedokles78: i never used 6.0, so could not comment.10:52
oerheksppa is newer that snap, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial10:52
blackflowbetween snap and PPA, I'd definitely recommend the snap.10:52
oerheksbut i would choose snap, *if* you need 6.x10:52
blackflowdon't mess with your global filesystem namespace with PPAs. use snaps if possible, and from verified vendors like Canonical.10:53
empedokles78oerheks, what is a snap?10:53
blackflow(always make sure you check WHO is supplying a snap, as _ANYONE_ can do it)10:53
oerhekssnaps and flatpack are the newer software channels10:54
oerhekssome packages are already as standard in softwarecenter too10:55
BluesKajHiyas all10:55
empedokles78oerheks, snaps are listed in softwarecenter?10:56
blackflowthey're not just channels, they're a completely novel containerized software delivery method, complete wiht security implications of such an approach, especially given that anyone can publish a snap.10:56
oerheksthere is no filter for snaps only, but yes, it is mentioned in the description AFAIK10:56
blackflowand there's STILL no bot factoid for snaps....10:56
oerheksblackflow, suggest one :-)10:57
empedokles78Software center lists a stable for libre office, is that that snap?10:58
blackflowoerheks: I did, several times now10:58
blackflowoerheks: I wonder if I should open a bug report instead of doing it through the bot10:58
oerheksempedokles78, read the details at the end.. i am not on 16.04, so cannot see what you see10:59
empedokles78It only states: "LibreOffice is a powerful office suite – its clean interface and feature-rich tools help you unleash your creativity and enhance your productivity. LibreOffice includes several applications that make it the most powerful Free and Open Source office suite on the market: Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress (presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base (databases), and Mat11:01
empedokles78h (formula editing)." Developer: Canonical and it's a newer version than the snap linked to.11:01
oerheksodd indeed, info on the site is outdated11:03
blackflowthat's why I prefer good old always up to date command line tools.   `snap info libreoffice` ftw ;)11:04
oerheksbut i see 6.04 on 17.10 :-D11:05
Wicardoneed help11:05
empedokles78  stable: (65) 479MB -11:05
empedokles78  candidate: (67) 480MB -11:05
empedokles78  beta:      ↑11:05
empedokles78  edge:      ↑11:05
WicardoSince i updated my ubuntu 18.04 i cant connect to wifi11:06
empedokles78so ubuntu softwarecenter is putting a wrong stable lable for this?11:06
oerhekssee. candidate is not 'stable'..11:06
empedokles78can i "snap install" it somehow?11:07
WicardoI guess the drivers are installed but the settings say that the wifi adapter is turned off11:07
empedokles78the stable one.11:07
oerheksyes, click on it in softwarecenter :-)11:07
blackflowempedokles78: yea, `sudo snap install libreoffice`11:08
blackflow!patience | Wicardo11:09
ubottuWicardo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/11:09
empedokles78blackflow, thanks a lot, found it on the snap site in the meantime.11:09
empedokles78so ppas times are counted?11:09
oerheksif one would publish for other linux distros too, there is a choise11:11
oerhekssnap, flatpack, and there are more ( and older)11:11
deemWicardo: Is there a killswitch? Like a hardware button to press or a switch to flip? Is the adapter enable in bios?11:14
Wicardodeem: Its a laptop11:17
empedokles78After installing that 6.0 libreoffice, do I need to restart and my old icons will be link to the newer version?11:18
WicardoAnd it world fine after I install ubuntu from a live usb yesterday...Only after i updated it that the problems started occuring11:18
deemWicardo: That doesn't answer my question11:21
BluesKajWicardo, read what deem posted above11:22
WicardoWell there is no killswitch11:23
Wicardoand also it works fine with Windows11:23
Wicardoso i doubt it is a bios issue11:23
tomreynwhat does "rfkill list" report?11:23
Wicardoonly the bluetooth11:24
BluesKajdoubt isn't certainty11:24
tomreynso it lists nothing about wireless at all?11:24
WicardoBluesKaj: I will check BIOS as a last resort11:25
Wicardoif nothing works11:25
deemIf it's not listed at all, it could be disable via BIOS or there is no driver installed, which is mostly not common11:25
tomreynWicardo: whats the output of: lsusb | nc termbin.com 999911:25
deemtomreyn: Aren't those wifi controllers connected to the pci controller?11:27
tomreyndeem: maybe :)11:27
tomreynWicardo: whats the output of: lcpci -nn | nc termbin.com 999911:27
tomreynWicardo: whats the output of: lspci -nn | nc termbin.com 999911:28
tomreyn^ typo fixed11:28
tomreyn01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n [14e4:4365] (rev 01)11:29
oerheksah, combo: BCM43142 is an adapter for both WiFi and Bluetooth11:30
WicardoWhen i go into additional drivers it already says that its already using the drives11:30
deemUrgs, seems like no fun with this adapter11:31
WicardoLet me check that out11:32
WicardoThanks :)11:32
deemWicardo: I would recommend as first step to simply disable and enable the adapter. Maybe it helps11:32
deemThat's also an possibl solution form the link11:33
oerhekssudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source & reboot11:33
Wicardooerheks: I already tried that11:35
WicardoI dont have a dedicated button to turn the adapter off11:36
tomreynbrcmfmac states "BCM4366  14e4:4365  Queued for 4.6+" https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211#supported_chips11:36
Wicardois there a specifc command for it?11:36
oerheksmost laptops have FN key + F1-F12 for extra options11:36
oerheksoften in blue11:36
WicardoI have a airplane mode button11:37
Wicardobut not for wlan11:37
deemAirplane mode should be fine11:37
WicardoOkay lemme see11:37
tomreynfirmware https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/commit/?id=52442afee9907bc32a058f22bb3295d040677c2611:38
Wicardoairplane mode didnt work11:38
tomreynfirmware is in "linux-firmware" package.11:39
tomreynWicardo: i suggest you show logs. dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 999911:40
adamretter_I have a 18.04 LTS server that won't boot from Disk. I am trying to use the live-server ISO to run a rescue, but I can't find the rescue mode anymore in the boot options? any ideas/11:40
tomreynadamretter_: use the non "live" server or desktop image.11:42
guivercadamretter_, i didn't think the 18.04 server had a 'live' mode; i thought only desktop isos had it11:42
adamretter_@tomreyn okay I have a desktop image here too, let me try...11:42
tomreynguiverc: it's the default now11:42
adamretter_@guiverc the ISO for the 18.04 server is named ubuntu-18.04-live-server-amd64.iso11:43
adamretter_tomreyn: where do I find the non "live" server ISO? I can't seem to find it anywhere?11:43
tomreynadamretter_: where you found the live image, clicking on the link on the top of the page11:44
guiverc:)  thanks tom, adam11:44
empedokles78wenn ich libreoffice 6.0 über snap installiert habe. kann ich die alten icons (die immer noch auf 5.0 linken) aktualisieren?11:44
empedokles78oder sollte ich 5.0 einfach komplett von der platte löschen?11:44
tomreyn!de | empedokles7811:44
ubottuempedokles78: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!11:44
adamretter_@guiverc http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net/releases/bionic/11:44
adamretter_tomreyn: sorry I meant - http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net/releases/bionic/11:44
BluesKajWicardo, FWIW maybe this will help https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/broadcom-sta-source11:45
empedokles78oops, sorry. can I remove libreoffice 5.0 from my pc after installing 6.0?11:45
WicardoHow do i install those11:46
empedokles78cause libreoffice icons are still linking to version 5.0.11:46
BluesKaj!ppa | Wicardo11:47
ubottuWicardo: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge11:47
tomreynadamretter_: http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net/releases/bionic/HEADER.html -> "alternative images location." -> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04/release/11:47
tomreynadamretter_: this mirror wouldnt show the directory index as the main mirrors would11:48
adamretter_tomreyn: so I saw that, but as it was a smaller file I had dismissed it - will try it now11:48
tomreynadamretter_: .. sory you couldnt see those links11:48
adamretter_tomreyn: so I just tried the live desktop image as well - from that I also can't seem to access a rescue mode11:50
tomreynWicardo: if you look at the bottom of your dmesg (kernel log), i.e. what you posted, you see repeating messages related to bluetooth. this is not normal, indicates malfunction. since you have a combo chipset (bluetooth + wireless) i suspect that the malfunction of the bluetooth driver prevents detection + operation of the wireless one.11:50
oerheksempedokles78, sure, apt remove libre* would wipe 5.011:51
Wicardomaybe it is because i have been trying all these fixes off the intrnet?11:51
adamretter_tomreyn: okay cool thanks that server cdimage you pointed me at has the Rescue Mode11:52
tomreynadamretter_: welcome :)11:52
blackflowempedokles78: don't use wildcards!!11:53
blackflowoerheks: don't recommend wildcards!!11:53
amosbirdHi, is there any other tools that can monitor network bandwidth per process instead of nethogs?11:53
tomreynWicardo: hmm could be. depends on what you did. :)11:54
oerheksblackflow, or should it be libreoffice* ?11:54
blackflowNO wildcards :)11:55
blackflowlibre* will wipe out halfa system, btw11:55
oerheksjust libreoffice does not remove it all11:55
tomreynWicardo: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198699#c11 is probably going to fix it11:55
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 198699 in Bluetooth "Kernel regularly logs: Bluetooth: hci0: last event is not cmd complete (0x0f)" [Normal,New]11:55
empedokles78blackflow, "apt remove libreoffice/xenial-updates,xenial-security 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial3 amd64 && libreoffice/xenial 1:5.1.2-0ubuntu1 amd64" ?11:56
tomreyn[Fri Jul 13 14:31:31 2018] bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM.hcd failed with error -211:57
tomreyn[Fri Jul 13 14:31:31 2018] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM.hcd not found11:57
oerheksempedokles78,  how do you get those name, libreoffice/xenial-updates etc ??11:57
tomreyn^ matching bluetooth firmware files not found as discussed in the bug tracker.11:57
blackflowempedokles78: no. either name all the libreoffice-... packages individually, or use a wildcard CAREFULLY.     apt remove libreoffice libreoffice-*          and check that's really all that's being removed.11:58
blackflowempedokles78: auto dependencies will be separately listed, and those are okay to be removed. check the explicit list under "The following packages will be REMOVED:"11:59
hans_ubuntu's pastebinit can't paste php scripts11:59
hans_echo "<?php echo 1;" | pastebinit          fails11:59
hans_it just returns "http://paste.ubuntu.com/"12:00
hans_nothing else12:00
empedokles78oerheks, apt list libreoffice -a12:00
empedokles78blackflow, this were the two packages it did list.12:00
Gabe_H_Coudjust wanted to say a massive thank you to blackflow and tomreyn - your help and guidance has been much appreciated!12:01
blackflowempedokles78: dpkg -l libreoffice* | grep -P "^ii "   -- that will list what's installed of libreoffice* packages12:02
blackflowGabe_H_Coud: you're welcome :)12:02
adamretter_So when trying to reinstall grub, I get the error: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly12:02
tomreynGabe_H_Coud: :)12:03
Guest9103Hi, any ideas how we can logg access to a system? We're required to do so for 5 years, and that would indicate SSH logins primarily, but also access to MySQL without having to store everything since 5 years of logs are a lot12:04
Guest9103Sure I can run a cronjob that greps the auth's from syslog, but that is a nasty solution12:04
empedokles78blackflow, yields this: https://dpaste.de/Bq8y12:05
blackflowempedokles78: also, when working wiht * on the command line, better put that whole name in quotes, eg.    dpkg -l 'libreoffice*',   as * has special meaning on the shell12:05
blackflowempedokles78: I believe removing   libreoffice-core   will pull out all other libreoffice packages. alternatively, you could use the wilcard, but carefully, like I mentioned above.    apt remove libreoffice libreoffice-*12:06
tomreynhans_: use singlw quotes to prevent shell expansion12:07
empedokles78blackflow, so which command do I have to use to not interfer with the 6.0 snap? :)12:07
tomreynhans_: okay, ignore me, doesnt help12:07
empedokles78or should I better use softwarecenter?12:07
blackflowempedokles78: apt deals with .deb packages. snap deals with snaps.12:07
hans_tomreyn, sure, but that isn't the problem here, echo '<?php echo 1;' | pastebinit  doesn't work either12:08
blackflowempedokles78: I don't use software center because it blurrs the difference between the two, and I think it's very important to know where your packages are coming from. plus, command line is more versatile and more informative.12:08
tomreynhans_: right, apparently it can't handle text starting with <12:08
dreamcat4hey there. i was wondering about these new snaps... if there is a snap available, and i 'apt-get install' the package instead of using the snap directly, will it automatically use the snap anyway under the hood?12:09
dreamcat4on 19.0412:09
hans_tomreyn, let me guess, some dev didn't know how to escape < , and decided the best course of action was to simply block <  ?12:09
tomreynhans_: echo '<?php echo 1;' | nc termbin.com 999912:09
tomreynhans_: i don't know, but you can inspect the source code.12:10
oerheksdreamcat4, no, apt install and snap install are isolated12:10
empedokles78blackflow, so "apt remove libreoffice-core" should do what I want?12:10
dreamcat4thanks for the answer oerheks12:10
* hans_ wonders how termbin deals with random portscanners12:10
blackflowempedokles78: I am guessing it will (being, eh, the core dependency for other libreoffice packages). you can always check with dpkg -l 'libreoffice*' if something still remained around.12:10
dreamcat4(however i'm not entirely sure what i should do now)12:11
blackflowempedokles78: I'm guessing it will remove ALL the libreoffice packages, yes.12:11
dreamcat4i ask on golang which is best to install (the snap or apt pkg) but they dont seem to care12:11
hans_tomreyn, do you know if there's an open bug for `pastebinit can't handle < `  ?12:11
empedokles78blackflow, why not "apt remove libreoffice"?12:11
blackflowdreamcat4: I'd say use the default distro packages unless you need something specific from the snap'd version12:11
oerheksdreamcat4, out apt packages are tested, with snaps you trust the publisher, if that is canonical, it would be the same12:12
hans_tomreyn, (and for the record, it's weird, both debian and fedora pastebinit handles <  without problems, seems to be an ubuntu-specific issue)12:12
blackflowempedokles78: because 'libreoffice' is a metapackage, the installation of which pulls in others (as its deps) but removal of which doesn't remove those deps12:12
blackflowempedokles78: I mean you can remove 'libreoffice' but it won't pull out the other libreoffice-... ones12:12
empedokles78blackflow, not sure what you mean. :)12:13
blackflowempedokles78: 'libreoffice' depends on, say, 'libreoffice-writer', but libreoffice-writer doesn't depend on libreoffice.  it's a metapackage, designed to pull in the entire suite with single command12:14
safiyyahhi all, need help accessing an encrypted home folder from a live disk12:14
tomreynhans_: i do not know if there's an open bug for `pastebinit can't handle < `. i know that bug reports are filed and can be searched on https://launchpad.net12:14
blackflowempedokles78: so if you install libreoffice, it will pul ITS dependencies. removing it will NOT remove its dependencies12:14
ioriahans_, 'PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed'12:15
blackflowempedokles78: that's why you have to remove them all individually, or use a wilcard CAREFULLY, like I've shown you above.12:15
blackflow(or cheat with libreoffice-core, assuming it's a dependency for all others which will then be pulled out automatically, because of that)12:15
empedokles78blackflow, but I want to delete the whole libreoffice 5.0.12:15
blackflowempedokles78: exactly.12:16
hans_ioria, if that's the case, then pastebinit should print such an error, but it just literally prints "http://paste.ubuntu.com/"12:16
ioriahans_, it prints nothing12:16
dreamcat4ok i guess it doesnt really matter then... i'll try the snaps12:17
blackflowempedokles78: Libreoffice is a SUITE of several packages, you see. one package 'libreoffice' pulls them all IN on installation of it, but removing it will remove just the 'libreoffice' metapackage, it will not remove all the individual ones. with me so far?12:17
tomreynioria: i got the same output as hans_ when i run: echo '<?php echo 1;' | pastebinit     # that's on 16.0412:18
tomreynhans_: so file a bug report if there's not one already.12:18
blackflowdreamcat4: this one?  https://snapcraft.io/go12:18
dreamcat4interestingly the go snap is maintained by 'mwhudson' at ubuntu.com12:18
ioriatomreyn, yes, it's not allowed12:19
dreamcat4rather than being listed as 'official'12:19
dreamcat4but if he works at ubuntu, maybe that doesn't really matter much12:19
blackflowdreamcat4: that's what I wanted to pooint at. I have no idea who that is. If you don't know either, be skeptical.12:19
blackflowwe already had malware in snaps because anyone can create a snap12:19
dreamcat4blackflow: yeah that one12:19
tomreynioria: right, i understanmd so much12:19
ioriatomreyn, go to paste.ubuntu.com, paste a php script and you'll get '    PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed'12:20
hans_ioria, it certainly returns something (that weird url) for me: https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/37110417_2122333631130136_9207661793810317312_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=fd3e7d28717ed26925b4db394264a23c&oe=5BCFAC2012:20
dreamcat4ok but his email is '@ubuntu.com'12:20
tomreynioria: i did ;)12:20
empedokles78blackflow, okay, a bit complicated for deinstallations over the cmd then. let me try your command.12:20
oerheksdreamcat4, no, i think he is independant, but surely a golang packager/maintainer https://launchpad.net/~mwhudson/+archive/ubuntu/go1.8-for-snaps12:20
blackflowdreamcat4: it's on you to decide whom to trust. I just want to point out be careful which snaps you install.12:20
oerheksdreamcat4, oh wait, he is with canonical, in NZ12:21
dreamcat4ok thanks. i think i'm good then for this one12:21
dreamcat4it does make me wonder though... about all those other snaps on the ubuntu store. if some of the more questionable ones could be suspect12:22
oerheksi am more a python guy, so sad to read Guido van Rossum , mister Python, stops .. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2018-July/005664.html12:22
empedokles78blackflow, that says: https://dpaste.de/JV3u is it just because of not putting sudo in it?12:23
blackflowempedokles78: ja12:23
ioriatomreyn, btw, you just remove '<? 'and it works , so not a big deal12:25
hans_it certainly makes the pastebinit command unreliable12:26
ioriareally ?12:26
hans_if you can't guarantee that a file you want to pastebinit doesn't start with "<?", you gotta open the file and check it before you can safely paste it..12:26
ioriaye, exactly12:27
hans_thus, unreliable12:27
empedokles78blackflow, just to prevent a major disaster: https://dpaste.de/OzQ5 :)12:28
raidghostGetting a message often: Jul 13 13:25:07 mediabox kernel: [148245.067418] swapper/4: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0x1080020(GFP_ATOMIC), nodemask=(null)12:29
blackflowempedokles78: that looks okay.   you also have stuff to autoremove, so you could additionally   'apt autoremove'12:29
hans_ioria, in any case, when it just returning the pastebin web url (as it does for me), or returning nothing at all (which it alledgedly does for you), it certainly lacks some error reporting12:29
raidghostThe network stopped respond and had some time before it went on to respond again12:29
hans_also, the return value is 012:30
blackflowempedokles78: when that's done, check with that dpkg -l 'libreoffice*'  command if any packages remain 'ii'  (installed), then apt remove them individually12:30
hans_guess it should have been 1 or something12:30
ioriahans_, sorry, when i said 'prints nothing',i meant 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/'12:30
hans_oh oki12:31
blackflowraidghost: looks like swap is having trouble. posibly hardware issues. anything else in the logs around that time, something indicating disk trouble?12:31
raidghostblackflow: I was told that since i have 64GB of ram. and the system is on SSD (It was not recommanded) to make swap partiton on the SSD12:32
blackflowraidghost: I hope you have good backups. when SSDs start having trouble, they tend to die abruptly and catastrophically (all or nothing)12:33
blackflow.... assuming of course that's what it is. but you should really check the logs around the time of that swapper error, see if anything disk related is logged12:34
raidghostblackflow: all my stuff is on raid (7200RPM drives)12:34
empedokles78blackflow, plenty: https://dpaste.de/ZTXY12:36
blackflowempedokles78: no, I see just a few.  please pastebin   dpkg -l 'libreoffice*' | grep -P '^ii '12:37
Harishow to get php 7.2 on xenial ?12:37
ppf!info php xenial12:38
ubottuphp (source: php-defaults (35ubuntu6.1)): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default). In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0+35ubuntu6.1 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB12:38
ppfeither using a ppa or rolling it from source12:38
blackflow!crosspost | Haris12:39
ubottuHaris: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.12:39
HarisI see12:39
HarisI thought the server community had separate contributors12:39
blackflownot necessariy12:39
hans_Haris, anyway, i use https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/12:40
Harismy gOOgle search says its possible through ppa. any native methods ?12:40
blackflowthat PPA is often recommended yes.12:40
hans_Haris, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt install php7.2-whatever-you-use (-cli / -fpm / modphp ? )12:41
empedokles78blackflow, what does dpkg?: https://dpaste.de/WuOw12:41
hans_Haris, define "native methods"12:42
Harisubuntu repos', universe, non-ppa12:42
blackflowHaris: mind the warning about the PPAs tho12:43
blackflow!ppa | Haris12:43
ubottuHaris: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:43
hans_Haris, well, if you upgrade to ubuntu 18.10-prerelease, you probably get php 7.212:44
HarisI can't do that untill bionic or its repos'/pkgs are stable enough for production12:44
blackflow18.10? don't recommend installing that yet.12:44
tomreyn!info php7.2 bionic12:44
ubottuphp7.2 (source: php7.2): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 7.2.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 (bionic), package size 9 kB, installed size 76 kB12:45
hans_oh neat, it's in the repos already12:45
ioriatomreyn, you never  annoy . my fault not being accurate in reporting my output12:45
Haris# sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php ; sudo apt-get update12:46
Harissudo: add-apt-repository: command not found12:46
Harisyes, but some others are not12:46
tomreynioria: ;) thanks.12:46
oerheksapt-add ..12:46
blackflowempedokles78: see if removing libreoffice-common pulls out those remaining 6 too. or just.... apt remove 'libreoffice-*'   (carefully, and check the list of packages that will be removed)12:48
oerheksHaris, it needs software-properties-common, not sure why that is not installed on xenial12:48
Haristhis is a fresh install from amazon ami12:48
Harisof xenial12:48
tomreynHaris: whats the exact name of the ami you installed?12:49
Haristhe default one for xenial12:50
empedokles78blackflow, "Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:12:50
empedokles78  libreoffice-common libreoffice-l10n-de libreoffice-l10n-en-gb libreoffice-l10n-en-za12:50
empedokles78  libreoffice-style-breeze libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-human12:50
empedokles780 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 7 zu entfernen und 36 nicht aktualisiert.12:50
tomreyn!paste | empedokles7812:51
ubottuempedokles78: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:51
Haris16-server based HVM instance AMI from amazon aws12:51
zubHi. A coworker is running Ubuntu 17.10. And after a recent update network stopped working. There is no network icon in the upper-right indicator (or what is that, next to volume, battery in the upper right corner of the screen). The wired network config part seems also gone from settings (Settings/Network/Wired - the whole wired section is not there). nmcli shows that the network connections (there are 2 wired connections, as there are 2 ethernet cards) exist 12:51
zubncmli con up if 'Wired connection 1' says: Error: Connection activation failed: No suitable device found for this connection.12:51
blackflowempedokles78: yes 7. libreoffice-common PLUS "those remaining 6  too". 6+1=7 yup.12:51
zubany idea of what has happened/how to solve this?12:51
zubnm-connection-editor shows the connections too. We even tried adding a new eth. connection and activating the new one. Still the same issue.12:52
empedokles78blackflow, https://dpaste.de/B2sy some unfound dirs. but the packages seem removed.12:52
zubI also looked inside /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections at the config of the connections and it seems OK - as far as I can tell12:53
blackflowempedokles78: I guess that's it then.12:53
qwebirc27634Hi I got a problem with my wifi on ubuntu...12:54
blackflowzub: gnome and NM can be flaky sometimes. shouldn't be needed, but perhaps reboot would fix it?12:54
tomreynHaris: thanks. this is probably https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud then.12:55
empedokles78blackflow, thanks a lot.12:55
blackflow(as much as it pains me to recommend reboot to fix post-update things, go blame gnome :)  )12:55
tomreynHaris: ... so not default 'ubuntu server', i assume.12:55
blackflowempedokles78: you're welcome. and if those icon problems persist, see if removing and reinstalling the snap fixes it.12:55
zubblackflow: reboot doesn't help :(12:56
zubthe situation persists12:56
zubI'm especially puzzled by the whole wired section disappearing12:56
zubfor now the corowker does "sudo dhclient <eth if name>" to work around... but that's ugly12:57
ppfanything in /etc/netplan/12:57
blackflowzub: can you pastebin the output of     journalctl -p err     ?12:57
zubI tried to reproduce by installing 17.10 in a VM but there it works12:57
blackflowzub: and also    journalctl -u NetworkManager.service12:57
empedokles78blackflow, they are gone. the only problem is that the snap version dialogue won't show my personal directory. It displays "65" next to the house (home).12:57
ppfzub: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/163884212:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1676547 in network-manager (Ubuntu Yakkety) "duplicate for #1638842 No network connectivity (NIC unmanaged) after upgrade" [Critical,Fix released]12:58
qwebirc27634Hi guys.  I'll explain: I installed some gnome personalization extantion on Ubuntu to show the wifi network info in the top bar. Well, now after a variable amount of time (10-120 minutes) the wpa_supplicant crashes and gets "unavailable" in the wifi GUI. running "service wpa_supplicant start" as root fixes it but it's pretty annoying. Other linux distros work flawlessly. So Either I reinstall, which is boooring, or I was hoping 12:58
ppfcould be that12:58
blackflowempedokles78: possible, I don't know. snaps are isolated environments and depending on how they're defined, they may or may not have access to your ~/  home.12:59
empedokles78okay, but that's another question for another time. :)13:00
blackflowempedokles78: maybe you just need to connec the :home interface?   more info here:  https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/advanced-snap-usage#313:00
zubblackflow: not much interesting here, except perhaps for Jul 13 01:11:31 ubuntu NetworkManager[772]: ((src/devices/nm-device.c:1452)): assertion '<dropped>' failed13:01
zuband indeed, it sort of behaves as if network manager decided to not manage any of the eth cards, so I'll see what the ticket linked by ppf suggests13:02
zubI have to day it works OK until a recent regular update (and as it's not my PC, I don't know all the details)13:02
ppfzub: the bug is essentially a miscommunication between netplan and NM13:02
zubwhat is netplan?13:02
blackflowzub: is tehre anything in /etc/netplan/*  and does the supposedly one file there say renderer: NetworkManager   ?13:02
blackflowzub: it's the new network configuration abstraction layer present in ubuntu since 17.1013:03
ppfzub: it's a networking configuration layer13:03
blackflowzub: more info https://netplan.io/13:03
blackflow!netplan | ah there's a factoid13:04
ubottuah there's a factoid: Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/13:04
zubthere is 1 file in /etc/netplan, says version: 2, renderer: NetworkManager13:04
zubso that seems OK13:04
ppfzub: !paste please13:05
zubppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WNdGj8T3H3/13:07
blackflowzub: what about /etc/network/interfaces  ? anything other than lo?13:08
zubnope, and also nothing in interfaces.d13:08
ppfzub: that looks okay13:08
adamretter_So on a Ubuntu 18.04 host, using vmbuilder and virsh I am unable to boot a kvm Ubuntu 18.04 server. It hangs at Booting from hard disk. Is this a known problem?13:08
zubperhaps nmcli device might be useful13:08
ppfnext step is checking the configurations in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d and /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/13:08
zubto show if nm actually thinks it manages the interfaces13:08
ppfwhether the device is unmanaged13:09
Harisoerheks: how to install it on xenial ?13:09
sliptteesHi guys13:10
sliptteesi try lockpref proxy settings for all users so appers "Failed to read the configuration file. Please contact your system administrator"13:10
Harisadd-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php13:10
sliptteescreate mozilla.cfg in /usr/lib/firefox/defaults/pref13:10
sliptteesand custom.js /usr/lib/firefox/defaults/pref13:10
Haris# add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php13:10
Haris-su: add-apt-repository: command not found13:10
anliHow do I know which css selectors I can use in when styling gtk?13:10
ppfHaris: apt install software-properties-common13:10
TommyOneHello :-)13:11
zubppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8BJGK6yR37/ so nm does think it does not manage this13:11
sliptteesHaris: install software-properties-common to add-apt-repository works13:11
Harisgot it. done =)13:11
sliptteesHaris: :-)13:12
ppfzub: okay, check why in the conf.d dirs13:12
sliptteesany help me, offtopic rsrs13:12
zubppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZW9T995VXZ/ nothing interesting there13:13
ppfzub: there's another one in /usr/lib/NetworkManager/13:13
zubppf: thanks, let's see13:13
sliptteesi don't understand this new settings13:13
sliptteesi try lockpref proxy settings for all users so appers "Failed to read the configuration file. Please contact your system administrator"13:14
blackflow!patience | slipttees13:14
ubottuslipttees: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/13:14
sliptteesblackflow: ok bro. Sorry13:14
blackflowslipttees: also please don't call me (or anyone actually) bro, thanks.13:15
zubppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rTw9D9W9Nm/ the13:16
zub10-globally-managed-devices.conf looks interesting13:16
ppfyeah, maybe try and throw in an except:type:ethernet in there13:16
zubppf: I don't know details about the matching here, but that seems like this would really make ethernet interfaces unmanaged13:17
zubppf: I'll try, thanks13:17
TommyOneim struggling since 2 days to install gvfs1.30.4-1 from debian.org on lubuntu. is there any easier way to install dsc-files from their site maybe with GUI?13:17
ppfwhy not use the deb13:20
blackflowzub: please let us know if that fixed it.13:21
zubppf: still unmanaged, huh. we changed unmanaged-devices to: unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan,except:type:ethernet13:21
ppfdid you reboot13:21
zubthat is after restarting network manager but not rebooting13:22
TommyOneits not working for me when i add a deb src into sources.list >Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (Component)13:22
zubok, he's rebooting13:22
tomreynTommyOne: mixing apt sources of debian and (l)ubuntu is a bad idea.13:23
blackflowppf: zub: is taht file even needed on a desktop these days? bionic's NM doesn't have it fwiw13:23
tomreynTommyOne: why weould you do this?13:23
TommyOne@tomreyn: uh didnt know, im kinda new to lx13:23
tomreynTommyOne: it's a good recipe to hose your system, so dont ;)13:23
TommyOnei have to replace my gvfs 1.28.x into 1.30.4-1 cause i cant mount usb drive13:24
zubso, reboot and still unmanaged. the file /usr/lib/NetworkManager/10-globally-managed-devices.conf is there. afaik this is 17.10 desktop installation13:24
ppfblackflow: it is on mine (not a clean install); however it leaves ethernet unmanaged as well, but NM doesn't use it13:24
ppfzub: cat /etc/*-release to be sure ;)13:24
tomreynTommyOne: no. you need to fix the issue which prevent your from mounting the usb drive. either through the correct configuration, or by a bugfix provided by ubuntu.13:25
tomreyn*prevents you13:25
tomreyn!latest | TommyOne13:25
ubottuTommyOne: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.13:25
ppfblackflow: the file is part of network-manager13:26
TommyOnei tried. let me explain. i want to access my digital camera through usb but i cant. in some forums they told me to upgrade gvfs because its a known bug13:26
zubppf: PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 17.10"13:26
blackflowppf: yes, but what I'm asking is whether it's even needed on a desktop. assume NM will want to manage them all? so, no need for unmanaged entries?13:27
ppfzub: lshw -c network13:27
blackflowand for any special, advanced cases, one can always add an exception13:27
ppfblackflow: yes, i don't understand that bit. in my case the file is being _ignored_13:27
zubppf: I have a fresh 17.10 installed in a vbox, where eth is managed. and the /usr/lib/NetworkManager/10-globally-managed-devices.conf is the same - it contains this strange looking unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:wwan13:27
ppfzub: yes, it's the same for me13:28
ppfso, red herring :)13:28
zubppf: lshwc? well, sud odhclient <iface> brings network up13:28
adrian_1908TommyOne: does the camera simply not "show up", or do you get an error message?13:28
zubso the hw itself + kernel seem OK13:28
ppfzub: still, paste please13:28
tomreynTommyOne: do you have an error message which any graphical application or gvfs utilites returned?13:28
TommyOneit shows up but cant access/mount proper due to my wrong gvfs version. its a known problem. so i try to change it13:29
ppfzub: another thing you can try is setting unmanaged-devices=none in NetworkManager.conf13:30
ppfas blackflow said you actually want them all13:30
tomreynTommyOne: if it's a known problem, then a bug report must exist. can you point me to it?13:30
blackflowTommyOne: you can't just upgrade/change version to  random packages in a system. they're all carefully selected and tested, and have critical interdependencies.13:30
zubppf: good idea, I'll try, thanks13:30
blackflowppf: oh I just realized this is a file in /usr/lib/ ... I was looking for it in /etc/NetworkManager/13:30
blackflowyeah it's on Bionic as well.... (and my NM is managing eth just fine)13:31
blackflowzub: oh btw... if there's no icon on the top bar, what about Settings -> Network  ?13:31
zubppf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2cpD7844K7/ (I see the warnings about root... but as I'm ralying it to thei coworker who's getting fed up with trying stuff, that's all I can do)13:31
TommyOne@tomreyn: i tried with gphoto2 - i can see it on usb001,004 but when i try to config the cam isnt avaiilable anymore13:31
zubblackflow: no wired adapters there, even the Wired section is gone13:32
zubthere's only VPN and Network proxy13:32
ppfyes, that's because of the unmanaged state13:32
ppfsudo nmcli dev set ens33 managed yes13:32
TommyOne@tomreyn: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=14616713:32
blackflowTommyOne: don't prefix nicks with @  on IRC, it is not needed, an in some cases might NOT even hightlight them13:33
TommyOneblackflow: im sry, bad habbits from twitch irc chat :-)13:33
zarzarhow do i switch to xcfe desktop?13:34
tomreynTommyOne: sre you using lubuntu or linux mint?13:34
TommyOnetomreyn: lubuntu13:34
tomreynTommyOne: can you disconnect and reconnect your camera, then run, in a terminal, "dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999", and post the HTTP address it returns here? this will post your kernel log to the this pastebin on the internet.13:35
tomreynTommyOne: keep the camera connected for at least 15 seconds, though.13:36
zubppf: so, still, even after sudo nmcli dev set ens33 managed yes, it's unmanaged13:36
zuband I'm afraid I can't ask him for more tests now. I'll try something mor eon monday. Thanks for you help.13:37
TommyOnetomreyn: http://termbin.com/eik713:37
Ducky^can /proc/pid/statm be used to determine the memory usage of a program?13:37
zubfor some reason nm persistently refuses to manage the interfaces13:37
Ducky^I thought the first number was the memory usage in kB, but it doesn't match what is reported in htop13:37
zubblackflow: also, thank you13:37
blackflowzub: artful is gone soon, perhaps suggest an upgrade to bionic, and by upgrade I mean backup data, reinstall from scratch :)13:37
zubblackflow: ideally, but this is a bit of a corporate world, so... might not be that easy13:38
blackflowsigh.... corporate and EOL...13:38
blackflowthey should be using LTS then, unconditionally.13:39
tomreynTommyOne: thanks, i'm reading up a little, will get back to you in 10 minutes13:40
TommyOnetomreyn: thanks a lot, since i spend so much time alrdy on it -- feel free to take more time ;-)13:41
tomreynTommyOne: np ;) so, when you connect the camera, and keep it (and all other usb devices) connected for a minute, then run "dmesg | tail", does it still say "USB disconnect" there?13:45
Shiva187Hello guys having troubles connecting to VPN on Kubuntu 18.04. I have added all the settings required by provider (IPVanish). Everything seems to be added and then when I go to hit "Connect" on the IP Vanish VPN it doesn't do anything literally it doesn't even attempt to connect any ideas?13:45
blackflowtomreyn: connect + wait 1 min + tail   sure won't notice any disconnects happening in that minute13:46
blackflowshould tail first and THEN connect13:46
=== will_ is now known as Guest70417
tomreynblackflow: it will show whether there was a non user initiated disconnect within the minute or not, whic is what i'd like to find out.13:48
blackflow(also dmesg -w   ftw instead of  | tail)13:48
tomreynblackflow: oh, didnt know -w, thanks13:49
blackflowtomreyn: yeah but tail has -n10 by default, so if you wait and THEN tail, you might lose it13:49
TommyOnetomreyn: device not accepting address 10, error -7113:49
tomreynblackflow: seems to have worked, but you're welcome to provide better instructions to TommyOne ;)13:50
blackflowtomreyn: just saying tail FIRST, and then fiddle with USB13:50
tomreynTommyOne: ok, so that's not a gvfs issue, and definitely not the one one this 2014 forum thread (it's still helpful to look at it, though)13:51
TommyOneso i tailed first, connected and dmsg -w finally but still the same error13:54
blackflowTommyOne: dmesg is just showing you the kernel ring buffer messages, it's not attempting to solve your problem per se13:55
tomreynTommyOne: can you also "sudo tail /var/log/syslog", please, see whether there is a "segfault" or anything lookign liek an error.13:56
TommyOnewhen i type gphoto2 --summary  i get  error (-53: »Could not claim the USB device«)13:56
TommyOnetomreyn: org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor[1122]: (process:2100): GVFS-GPhoto2-WARNING **: device (null) has no BUSNUM property, ignoring13:58
tomreynTommyOne: can you try the camera on your other usb ports, too, please?13:58
TommyOnetomreyn: i try13:58
tomreynok, that's just a warning, not a bug13:59
takemecan i use tmux on vnc server instead of ssh?14:00
killallMy supermicro server is blinking red on the sata backplane (bpn-sas3-815tq) and i cant figure why. All the hdds are ok.14:00
tomreynTommyOne: also, have you tried the camera on a different computer, one younger than 13 years?14:00
blackflow!crosspost | killall14:01
ubottukillall: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.14:01
blackflowalso, hardly ubuntu related.14:01
TommyOnetomreyn: yeah tried now with different cable on different usb port - still getting error with gphoto2. i just want to access the usb webcam mode. i know its possible because several people got it working.14:03
TommyOnetomreyn: on windows10 the camera is working fine with canon software named "camerawindow"14:04
tomreynTommyOne: windows on the same computer?14:04
TommyOnetomreyn: different computer14:05
tomreynTommyOne: your computer is pretty old, may have an old (hardware) version usb. i suspect this can be related. but i don't have a good suggestion other than: try this camera, this cable, and this ubuntu version (16.04) , as a live cd, on a more modern computer.14:07
blackflowtomreyn: also note a rather old kernel there (4.4)14:08
tomreynshouldn't be an issue, the camera is old, too. but sure, TommyOne could try !hwe a try, too.14:09
tomreynTommyOne: this is (a generic description of) the problem: http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts614:10
TommyOnehmmm thought its a good idea to take 16.04 but ok will try older kernel usb-drive and see what happens. thanks a lot so far guys <314:10
tomreyn!hwe | TommyOne14:11
ubottuTommyOne: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack14:11
tomreynthis is newer, not older14:11
ArturIf I compile my program using Cygwin on my Windows machine. Should everyone else who uses Windows also have Cygwin to run this program?14:13
TommyOnetomreyn: will read that thx14:13
lotuspsychjeArtur: you ask this in #ubuntu why?14:13
tomreynTommyOne: actually you can try to disconnect the camera, then "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd", then connect the camera again.14:14
TommyOnetomreyn: rmmod: ERROR: Module ehci_hcd is builtin.14:15
tomreynTommyOne: oh, makes sense. ;)14:16
oerheks!find smurf14:16
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 229 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=smurf&searchon=names&suite=bionic&section=all14:16
tomreynTommyOne: well i give up for now. read the FAQ link, try the other computer, good luck!14:16
TommyOnetomreyn: yea thx :-)14:17
zezuz@search westover14:20
lotuspsychje!warez | zezuz14:20
ubottuzezuz: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o14:20
TommyOneGetting this error now with 1000mA(2xusb-ports to microUsbCam) What does this mean? >> 7251 (pool) Attribute num_reads (and others) will be removed. See zram documentation. WARNING! power/level is deprecated; use power/control instead14:35
TommyOnei guess the driver is using faulty commands14:37
mojtabaHello, I am using avconv to record screen and voice, the problem is that on lengthy records, the voice lags behind and it is not processed correctly. Do you know what could be fixed or what is wrong with this script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KyQ5b67cMb/14:39
pragmaticenigmaTommyOne: The driver is trying to tell the USB controller to send more power to the device (default USB port power is limit to 0.5mA) ... If the camera has a secondary power supply, it would be a good idea to use it.14:39
mojtabaThe voice is Ok for first 5 minutes.14:39
pragmaticenigmamojtaba: what version of Ubuntu are you using?14:39
mojtabapragmaticenigma: 16.04LTS14:39
TommyOnepragmaticenigma: the cam is connected to 2 usb ports and the powercell is fully loaded14:40
mojtabapragmaticenigma: any idea?14:40
pragmaticenigmamojtaba: not at this very moment. I know that I have never had luck with avconv keeping the audio in sync with the video... speant many hours on it14:41
TommyOnepragmaticenigma: you mean replace battery with constant voltage supply would solve it?14:41
pragmaticenigmamojtaba: I would recommend getting ffmpeg and trying with that14:42
mojtabapragmaticenigma: Did you give up or are you using any other solution?14:42
mojtabapragmaticenigma: I have to replace just avconv term with ffmpeg?14:42
mojtabain that script?14:42
pragmaticenigmamojtaba: It might be that simple, yes... I know some avconv arguments are not compatible or redefined from ffmpeg... but I think you'd be okay to change it over to ffmpeg14:43
mojtabapragmaticenigma: I remember that ffmpeg was discontinued at some point, and avconv was supposed to be a replacement for that.14:44
pragmaticenigmaTommyOne: If the camera has the ability to be plugged directly into a power outlet, I would strongly recommend using that. Computer USB ports were never really designed for powering devices.14:44
pragmaticenigmamojtaba: ffmpeg has never been discontinued. Ubuntu decided to move to avconc (a port of ffmpeg) to avoid conflicts with liscensing issues for codecs14:45
pragmaticenigmamojtaba: Ubuntu has since moved back to installing ffmpeg by default14:45
TommyOnepragmaticenigma: i can only only replace the battery with a dummy from canon where i can plug in a 5v power supply. the error makes no sense to me due to the fact the battery has way more current than the power supply could give out. :-D14:46
mojtabapragmaticenigma: thanks, I will change avconv to ffmpeg14:47
pragmaticenigmaTommyOne: I don't know the hardware side of things... the error message is the computer sending a message that a device is trying to negotiate a high power output, and the method being used is not recognized14:47
TommyOnepragmaticenigma: thx a lot - will try to solder a constant current supply to the camera14:49
pragmaticenigmaTommyOne: Why would you do that? Seems extreme14:50
ppfzub: sorry had to leave for an exam. did you fix it?14:50
Sunbeam1963How would I go about checking sha1sum file hashes of about 50,000 files on Linux? I've ran the command: "find /media/lubuntu/Windows -type f -exec sha1sum {} >> windowsHashes.txt \;" and collected something like 41MB of hashes in the file.14:52
TommyOnepragmaticenigma: because i have these old spare parts and want to reuse them. im not supporting planed obsolesence. ;-)14:53
ppfSunbeam1963: that sounds like a good approach14:53
Sunbeam1963I'm copying all the files over an ethernet cable to another Linux box and would like to make sure all the hashes match up.14:53
pragmaticenigmaThat's okay TommyOne ... just seemed like quite a jump from the USB not pushing enough power14:54
leftyfbSunbeam1963: you'd write a script14:54
Sunbeam1963I'm just not sure how to compare the hashes because all of the files have different directory paths.14:54
ppfSunbeam1963: so what is it you don't like?14:54
pragmaticenigmaOr use something like rsync which will verify the files14:54
ppfyes that means you use $favorite_script14:55
TommyOnepragmaticenigma: since i want to power the cam 24/7, i have to do it anyway :-D14:55
leftyfbSunbeam1963: again, you'd write a script14:55
Sunbeam1963I used cp -prv /blawblaw /blawblaw14:55
Sunbeam1963slak, sup14:56
leftyfbFrank2: can we help you with something?14:56
slakalright frank...14:56
adrian_1908Sunbeam1963: so the target directories will have a different structure? you'll not be copying the directory-tree as is?14:57
Frank2I resized a ext4 partition with gparted, the file-system is on a microsd14:57
slakim connected to a wireless access point with a laptop... now i want to hook my wireless router to the ethernet and transmit that connection14:57
Frank2but rebooting from it , the space remain the same of before14:57
Sunbeam1963adrian_1908, the directory tree shouldn't be affected, however the directories above all the files being copied will be different names.14:58
Frank2I tried with resize2fs /dev/sdb # but don't go14:58
leftyfbSunbeam1963: strip them in your script14:58
leftyfbSunbeam1963: or compensate for them when you're comparing14:58
leftyfbFrank2: you need to resize the partition(fdisk) and the filesystem(resizefs)14:59
adrian_1908Sunbeam1963: as someone said, rsync might be an option. you can do recursive copying/mirroring and it should verify the integrity14:59
Frank2leftyfb, I resized it with gparted, but resize2fs give me error, only read15:00
Sunbeam1963adrian_1908, I've completed most of the copying already.15:00
adrian_1908Sunbeam1963: you could run rsync afterwards and it will check for differences. lemme check the syntax, one moment.15:00
adrian_1908Sunbeam1963: rsync -av /host/source/datadir /otherbox/backup/datadir15:03
adrian_1908Sunbeam1963: you can add the "-n" flag for dry-runs, that might actually work as well i just thought.15:04
adrian_1908Sunbeam1963: actually, it might be /host/source/datadir/ with a trailing slash. rsync is very picky iirc.15:06
=== tyzoid is now known as tyz0id
=== tyz0id is now known as tyzoid
takemecan i use tmux in vnc?15:14
lotuspsychjetakeme: perhaps you can ask in the #tmux channel15:15
takemei mean that can i have session in vnc?15:15
Sunbeam1963I did "rsync -nav /source/ /target/" hopefully it's going to check the hashes, I'm only seeing a bunch of files being displayed on the screen.15:19
adrian_1908Sunbeam1963: not sure how to condense it down, but basically without the "-n" flag it would copy your content based on the host data. If you add the --delete flag, it will remove files from the target that don't exist on the host, i.e. a mirror.15:24
adrian_1908isn't there some statistics at the end of the run, about changes made?15:25
=== nubcake is now known as nubcake_
=== nubcake_ is now known as nubcake
RandolfIs the MySQL package from apt a bit different on Ubuntu?  I'm having trouble creating MySQL users and changing the MySQL root password.15:32
zubppf: it's not my computer and the cowork has had enought of debugging attempts; I'll try to poke him again on Monday15:33
leftyfbRandolf: no. It's not different at all.15:34
RandolfHmm.  I'm having problems with "access denied" errors.  The folks in the #mysql channel think it's not a fresh install, but it is.15:35
zubppf: last result is: network manager peristently claims the iface is unmanaged; maybe running network manager in foreground and reading what happens on nm startup (any complaints about anything) or seeing if it prints anything after nmcli dev set managed might help15:35
=== SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk
am_hi there15:36
adrian_1908Randolf: using `mysql -u root -p` to log in?15:37
Randolfadrian_1908:  No, just sudo mysql15:38
RandolfIt doesn't prompt for any password.15:38
ppfzub: okay :)15:38
ppfkeep us updated!15:38
am_I have a very strange bug with my monitor refresh rate on Ubuntu Budgie 18.04... I set 2560x1440 120Hz and it's allright - monitor shows that 120Hz is active and system too... But in real Ubuntu renders only 60Hz... How can I solve this problem? Video intel hd 4600. On Windows this configuration working fine on 120Hz correctly - real 120 not faked like in ubuntu15:38
am_I also check https://www.testufo.com/ - and the test shows that real refresh rate is 60Hz not 120Hz!15:39
i4Maybe some ideas?15:40
=== i4 is now known as ^am
de-factoWhen I rename the standard Desktop user (UID 1000) to "admin" are there any problems to be expected with a Desktop setup (e.g. name reserved for internal usage of some pkgs)?15:41
tomreyn^am: vblank_mode=0 glxgears15:42
adrian_1908de-facto: i think there used to be an admin group on Ubuntu. I would avoid using that username.15:43
ButtPhucker101Hi guys15:43
^amtomreyn, https://pastebin.com/Nafmeycv15:44
=== mous is now known as mous40
tomreyncan you pick a better nick?15:45
am_tomreyn, sorry reboot15:45
tomreynam_: well, you got 13375 FPS, seems solved?15:46
BluesKajhet Butt , this a family oriented support chat , change your nick please15:46
am_noah, system real refresh rate is 60Hz, not 120Hz15:46
am_tomreyn, no15:46
am_tomreyn, monitor works at 120hz and I can see it in monitor menu, but system shows 60Hz... I dont understand why and how15:47
am_tomreyn, https://www.testufo.com/ shows up the real 60Hz on my onitor15:48
tomreynam_: vblank_mode works per application unless you export it, in which case it works for any child process from then on.15:48
tomreynam_: try changing any setting on that test website15:48
tomreynthen set it back15:48
am_tomreyn, how I can check the real refrash rate of monitor in ubuntu?15:50
anliIs there a way of reinstalling a package and all dependent packages (to fix a broken package manager)?15:51
tomreynam_: xrandr15:52
tomreynam_: you can also set it there. sorry, the fps stuff didnt make sense, i guess.15:52
am_tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/RuBEM038 - it's shows up that now activated 120Hz but this is not true15:52
oerheksanli,  apt-get install --reinstall packagename15:53
oerheksand or/ apt install -f # to fix broken dependencies15:53
tomreynam_: not true based on?15:53
am_I easily can fill difference between 60 and 120... and now is 60 and not 120...15:53
anliIf git is dependent on libcurl4, will that also reinstall libcurl4?15:53
oerhekstry ..15:53
ButtPhucker101hi anli15:53
tomreynam_: sorry, i dont know then,15:53
ButtPhucker101how are u15:53
am_tomreyn, Is that possible that monitor works on 120Hz, but system desktop env render only w 60 fps?15:54
hggdhButtPhucker101: please change your nick now15:54
tomreynam_: sure, default is to limit to 60 fps with mesa15:54
=== ButtPhucker101 is now known as Buttmeister101
Buttmeister101is this one ok, it is better?15:55
anliStill getting git-remote-https: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: version `CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found (required by git-remote-https)15:55
anli(not tried -f yet)15:55
anlinope, did only reinstall git, not the dependent packages15:55
AmilBhut101hi hgggdh is this ok15:55
am_tomreyn, how can I solve this?15:55
am_Or pass15:56
AmilBhut101Could I have Bhutmeister101 if Bhut is my name15:56
oerheksanli, odd, if you install git, it installs dependencies, else it is optional15:56
anlibut I am reinstalling15:56
hggdhAmilBhut101: yeah, I guess it is goodbye15:56
YuxKukMohi guys! question: did someone installed ubuntu server 18 lts in virtual box 5.2.12?15:58
RandolfButtmeister101:  You're an idiot.  You should be banished from this channel.15:58
hggdhRandolf: please stop15:58
hggdhRandolf: do NOT engage trolls15:58
Randolfhggdh:  Okay.15:58
YuxKukMowhere can i paste an image with the error i received ?15:59
RandolfI'm having some problems with cut-and-paste -- I need to copy text from a PuTTY or Xterm session, but it never seems to paste into anything.15:59
RandolfAre there some known issues with this?15:59
compdocYuxKukMo, imgur.com16:00
tomreynam_: so compare this "GALLIUM_HUD=fps glxgears" to this "vblank_mode=0 GALLIUM_HUD=fps glxgears". default vblank_mode is 1, meaning synch to vblank = limit to 60 FPS.16:00
pragmaticenigmaRandolf: Ctrl + Insert is how to copy16:00
am_And one more problem hotkey shortcuts just stop working for my from reboot to reboot and I need to rebind they to other key kodes bcs previous keykodes not working16:00
pragmaticenigmaRandolf: Shift + Insert for paste16:00
am_and cant be bound16:00
tomreynam_: this explains how to disable vblank_mode for your user account / X session: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics#Disable_Vertical_Synchronization_.28VSYNC.2916:01
Randolfpragmaticenigma:  That just puts a "0" on the screen.16:01
RandolfI tried CTRL-V and nothing happens.16:01
am_tomreyn, hmmm now I'm changing from 120 to 60 hz and 120 dissapears from menu in settongs o.O16:02
am_tomreyn, 10x16:02
pragmaticenigmaRandolf: In which application? I don't usually have much luck with Xterm with cut and paste16:02
takemecan i know name of email?16:02
pragmaticenigmaRandolf: In putty, the other option is to highlight the text, then click once with the left mouse button. the highlight will disappear, and the text will have copied to the clipboard16:03
am_tomreyn, xrandr shows only 60hz mode16:03
am_120 100 and 85 is dissapear)16:03
am_reboot will solve this problem16:03
am_But why it's happening16:03
tomreynam_: you cna use xrandr to define modes on the fly, as well as /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make it permanent.16:04
am_tomreyn, there is no xorg.conf in my /etc/X11/*16:05
tomreynam_: right, it's not there by default16:05
takemecan i know name of email?16:05
Randolfpragmaticenigma:  That works in Windows, but under Ubuntu it doesn't.16:05
leftyfbtakeme: What are you talking about?16:06
takemeemail client of ubuntu16:06
Randolfpragmaticenigma:  It just changes the range of text highlighted depending on where I click.16:06
takemepre installed16:06
leftyfbtakeme: thunderbird16:06
takemeanyway  can i install it on windows?16:07
YuxKukMoso, this is the error that i received during installation in virtual box https://imgur.com/a/DRJyysT. any idea why ?16:07
horaniam_: have you tried to set the rate i.e.: xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 120?16:07
takemeleftyfb:  ?16:07
hggdhtakeme: I believe so, but you have to check somewhere else16:07
leftyfbtakeme: yes16:07
takemeah thanks :)16:07
am_horani, yes16:10
am_I need to reboot16:10
am_horani, yes it's done16:11
pragmaticenigmaRandolf: I don't use Putty or XTerm in Ubuntu... I use either gnome-terminal or Konsole16:12
am_Now it's ok16:12
RandolfOh, okay.  I'll try those.16:12
pragmaticenigmawhich allows Ctrl + Shift + C and Ctrl + Shift + V for copy and paste respectively16:12
RandolfThat would be very helpful.16:12
am_But next question is how it's possible to render Ubuntu GRUB2 menu on DP? Now it's shows only on HDMI16:12
RandolfRe-typing on-screen text into IRC isn't fun.16:12
RandolfJust in case my MySQL datafiles are b0rked, is it an easy process to just wipe them out and start over?16:13
tomreynam_: you reboot a lot. :) more environment variables for debugging: https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html  LIB_GL and GALLIUM refers to 3d accelerated graphics only. the i945/i96 should also work for you (2d).16:14
am_tomreyn, this is for glxgears?16:16
tomreynam_: anything which creates graphical output.16:17
am_tomreyn, when I use vblank_mode=0 glxgears and vblank_mode=1 glxgears - the result is the same16:17
tomreynam_: that's not the commands i had provbided, though16:17
tomreynyou dropped the hud16:18
am_now the command GALLIUM_HUD=fps glxgears shows 120fps16:18
tomreynso it limits to the monitor refresh rate now.16:19
am_No monitor now working good16:19
am_And I can see 120 hz16:19
anliCan I fix a broken apt by copying files from an iso file?16:19
anli(ubuntu iso)16:20
am_Now, can I set to display grub2 menu on DP not HDMI? It;s possible?16:20
lotuspsychjeanli: you can set your sources to the install media16:20
tomreynam_: i dont think so, but not certain16:20
anliSo a ubuntu installation iso can be made an apt source?16:20
anliah, makes sense16:20
lotuspsychjeanli: check in your software&sources16:21
tomreynam_: it's possible that you can configure your bios to prefer the external monitor over the internal one, though, if it's a laptop, or to prefer once type of connection over another (e.g. DP vs. HDMI vs. VGA)16:22
anlilotuspsychje: Is that no+16:23
anliI am not asking if something similar to an iso file is an apt source16:23
horaniam_: if i understood well, for grub: add "video=DP1-1:d" to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=.....16:23
lotuspsychjeanli: im not following you now..?16:23
tomreynhorani: that's a kernel parameter, would only work after grub.16:24
am_horani, now i'll try, 10-x then back16:24
am_And i was tried to set resolution to grub2 but it's not working and very low now(16:25
am_\I set it vefore on previous ubuntu versions with framebuffer, but i don't it's working method now  or not16:25
lotuspsychjeanli: also when you say a 'broken' apt, can you define please...what exactly doesnt work anymore?16:25
am_horani, why DP1-1 or it's just an example... my DP is just DP-116:26
horaniam_: was an example16:26
horaniDP1:d in your case16:27
tomreynthey're gone, again ;)16:27
horanihowever tomreyn isprobably right. this is kernel parameter which will work after grub. therefore this solely depends on bios16:29
RandolfOkay, so I shut down the MySQL daemon, then I used "apt purge default-mysql-server" followed by "apt install default-mysql-server" which all worked fine.  But starting the daemon resulted in errors now and it can't find a directory called "mysql-files."16:32
=== SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL
tomreynRandolf: provide more context, ubuntu version, what is your overall plan, what have you done so far, what are you doing now, how's it not working, what's the error message.16:34
tomreyn!ask | wlt16:34
ubottuwlt: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:34
Randolftomreyn:  I'm using Ubuntu Linux 18.04 LTS, and I'm trying get MySQL re-installed because the previous installation was b0rked and denying access to do normal things.  But now I'm getting an error that the directory "/var/lib/mysql/" cannot be created.16:36
RandolfI just want to get MySQL working.16:36
tomreynRandolf: you only purged and reinstalled a meta packages, though, not the full mysql-server, i would think: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=default-mysql-server16:37
mtdmsis there ubuntu for smartphone?16:37
mtdmsi read something about it, but does it works good?16:37
mtdmson mobile16:37
lotuspsychjemtdms: canonical stopped ubuntu touch16:37
tomreynRandolf: can you show the exact error message?16:37
mtdmsdidnt work?16:37
lotuspsychjemtdms: but the community of #ubports taken over16:37
oerheksmtdms, yes, there is #ubports , community project of that phone thingy16:37
Randolftomreyn:  I'll need a moment because cut-and-paste isn't working -- Shift-Insert just puts a 0 on the screen for me...16:38
lotuspsychjemtdms: see also the ubports.com website to see if your device supports it16:38
tomreynRandolf: try ctrl-shift-v16:39
Randolftomreyn:  mysqld: Can't create directory '/var/lib/mysql/' (Errcode: 13 - Permission denied)16:39
horani Randolf: installing as root?16:39
Randolfhorani:  Yes.16:39
mtdmsandroid could be also linux? like ubuntu a distro?16:40
Randolftomreyn:  The problem is that Ubuntu isn't copying text from PuTTY or xterm.16:40
mtdmsit has linux kernel right?16:40
tomreynRandolf: this may be a result of not properly purging mysqld earlier16:40
lotuspsychjemtdms: we take only ubuntu support questions here16:40
oerheksmtdms, yes, but that would be offtopic here16:40
Randolftomreyn:  Oh.  Well, how can I make sure that happened?  I think perhaps "apt purge default-mysql-server" may have missed something then.16:41
tomreynRandolf: you can drag and mark with the mouse, then paste with middle mouse button16:41
Randolftomreyn:  Yeah, I don't have a middle mouse button.  Only left-and-right on this trackpad.16:41
Randolftomreyn:  But the usual copy-and-paste that works with PuTTY under Windows isn't working here.16:42
RandolfI can copy-and-paste between other applications, just not PuTTY or xterm.16:42
RandolfI'm more concerned about MySQL though.16:42
RandolfI can live with re-typing things manually for now.16:42
oerheksRandolf, i would reboot first after removing a 'borked install'. then purge all cruft that is left behind, and start fresh16:42
Randolfoerheks:  Done that.  This is where I'm at now.16:43
=== semeion is now known as mnemonic
tomreynRandolf: then let us know which http address this returns "sudo ls -al /var/lib/mysql | pastebinit"16:44
Randolftomreyn:  That directory doesn't exist.16:44
tomreynRandolf: let's clean up again: sudo apt purge default-mysql-server 'mysql*'    # be sure to read what it'll be doing before you confirm the prompt.16:46
RandolfOh, this is asking me with a purple window to remove the database now.  It looks like adding `mysql*` makes the difference here.16:48
RandolfThat prompt didn't appear earlier when I used just "sudo apt purge default-mysql-server" (without the 'mysql*' part).16:49
RandolfOkay, that's working now.  Thank you tomreyn.16:49
RandolfRe-installation worked without any problems.16:49
RandolfI'll let the folks in #mysql know about this.16:50
shdhj12jk3Client Quit16:54
=== butterbiscuit is now known as foxdie
=== freepbx145 is now known as scheder
xgptsuggestions for easiest to use openvpn or othre vpn software? I'd like to be able to securely tap into my own internal network while outside my home for purposes of netflix/hulu/etc.17:26
xgpt(while traveling)17:26
lotuspsychje!vpn | xgpt17:27
ubottuxgpt: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN17:27
compdocthats an old page17:28
compdocUbuntu 10.04? think thats gone17:28
lotuspsychjecompdoc: feel free to find a new wiki :p17:29
* compdoc is feeling free now - thanks17:30
lotuspsychjexgpt: https://linuxconfig.org/simple-openvpn-connection-setup-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux this is newer17:31
tomreynxgpt: https://www.wireguard.com/17:31
shibumihello how to purge netplan?17:32
shibumiI am on ubuntu-18.0417:32
shibumiand when I do `apt purge netplan`17:32
shibumiI can still use it with `netplan`17:32
tomreynadd .io17:32
shibumitomreyn: lol this removes ubuntu-minimal as well17:32
lotuspsychje!ru | Syabro17:32
ubottuSyabro: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:32
tomreynshibumi: that's just a meta package, doesn't hurt.17:33
xodiakanyone here on KDE Neon?17:33
gde33I'm not entirely sure how large the volume is but I connected an external usb drive to my 32 bit laptop. I could open the directory in the lubuntu file browser but then the file browser closed it self and the device no longer shows.17:34
shibumitomreyn: what is the difference between the netplan and the netplan.io package?17:34
horanixodiak: i use neon on one machine17:34
gde33(rebooting now n trying windos)17:34
tomreynshibumi: one is the package you want to remove, the other isnt17:35
tomreynshibumi: "apt-cache show PACKAGE" to get info on any package, installed or not.17:35
shibumitomreyn: I have reinstalled ifupdown network scripts.. why is ubuntu 18.04 throwing errors on the interface wildcard `ether`?17:44
mtdmsdo you know some swift ide for ubuntu? i dont wanna use a mac,please17:45
oerheksmtdms, not in the repos, and you asked this yesterday too? .. #swift-lang17:47
sliptteeshy guys... how command get acpi_osi support?17:47
tomreynshibumi: this lacks context, but i'll probably still not know if you'll provide it17:47
pragmaticenigmaslipttees: Could you provide more information about what you are trying to do?17:48
leftyfbslipttees: can you be a bit clearer? Your question doesn't make much sense.17:48
sliptteespragmaticenigma: fn+keys no work17:48
pragmaticenigmaslipttees: that wouldn't be a function of ACPI17:48
shibumitomreyn: context: I want to deploy VMs in a vmware environment with openvmtools as some sort of initialization. openvmtools supports only ifupdown tools.. so I reinstalled them. And openvmtools generates an interfaces file with the interface "ether" as wildcard for any ethernet interface but somehow ubuntu18.04 seems to ignore this wildcard17:49
shibumitomreyn: in short: everything is broken /o\17:49
pragmaticenigmaslipttees: Support for hot keys is limited, and depends on the support of BIOS to send those commands to Ubuntu, and Ubuntu knowing what to do with them.17:50
=== T4P4N_ is now known as T4P4N
sliptteespragmaticenigma: enable/disable touchpad, wifi work... sound and brightness wont17:54
tomreynshibumi: i can't seem to find anything online about openvmtools creating interfaces named "ether*" by default.17:55
shibumitomreyn: the interface is named 'ether' only.. I guess it's a wildcard.. no idea. I use ansible vmware-guest module for deploying the VMs17:56
tomreynshibumi: i would also not know how iot creates them, it'd be necessary to ensure they'd not conflict with https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/17:56
shibumitomreyn: yeah i Know.. even if I disable them it doesn't work.. so it's more a bug in openvmtools vmware guest agent..17:56
tomreyni guess so17:57
shibumiif openvmtools would support systemd-networkd everything would work fine ;)17:57
shibumijust netplan should be removed..17:57
shibumino idea why you need another abstraction layer there..17:57
shibumiit doesn't make sense for me..17:57
oerheks Ubuntu 18.04 isn't supported yet with netplan. 16.04, works fine, openvmwaretools17:57
pragmaticenigmanetplan is not an abstraction layer... it is a replacement17:58
shibumioerheks: are you sure? netplan is on default in the server image for ubuntu 18.0417:58
tomreynhaving netplan installed or not would not make a difference other than a few more bytes on your hdd in your case17:58
shibumipragmaticenigma: replacement for what?17:58
oerheksshibumi, ha yes, but not on vmware17:58
shibumitomreyn: well if netplan is installed with cloud-init it fuckups every network configuration I do in /etc/systemd/network/17:58
oerheksso all users are still on16.04 lts17:59
shibumioerheks: ah ok you meant openvmtools sorry :D17:59
pragmaticenigmashibumi: a topic for another channel, I'd focus on your current issue17:59
* tomreyn is not really into cloud-init.17:59
shibumipragmaticenigma: everything solved :)17:59
shibumipragmaticenigma: my solution is at the moment: create a custom ubuntu 18.04 template for vmware without netplan... generate .network files templates with ansible.. deploy them via vmware_guest_file module18:00
okularni1hello i am president of debian in Poland18:12
okularni1i want xorg in kernel18:13
okularni1xorg is 30 years of hard work18:13
okularni1of xorg.foundation18:14
okularni1someone know Torvalds ?18:14
okularni1someone got maybe email for Torvalds ?18:15
leftyfbokularni1: That's offtopic. Do you have an Ubuntu specific support question?18:15
okularni1are ubuntu want a freeware and warez torrent p2p official polish president of UBUNTU ?? My friend is a programmist and he got long hairs like hippie. He can fight for freedom for you18:17
leftyfbokularni1: please leave18:17
okularni1he live i psychiatric hospital18:17
leftyfb!op | okularni118:18
ubottuokularni1: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax18:18
okularni1You are an ellite of UBUNTU18:18
okularni1do you want someone from underground for president function in Poland ?18:19
leftyfbokularni1: trolling is offtopic here. Please try #ubuntu-ops18:19
okularni1its not trolling18:19
okularni1people got power18:19
okularni1ubuntu has a risk of deinstallate the xorg18:19
okularni1they say they want wayland18:20
okularni1and wayland is a 2 years of work . For example xorg is 30 years18:20
leftyfbokularni1: this is a support channel. Please go elsewhere for your rants18:21
okularni1give your voice to LORD SASANEK (PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL DREWNICA POLAND) if you want LORD SASANEK for president of ubuntu in Poland .mail omnismoriar1@gmail.com18:22
okularni1He are a schisophrenic18:22
oerheks.. okularni1 nobody is interested in your activism, your opinion is valuable, but not in this channel18:22
okularni1and he can programming for 5 hours in day18:22
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:22
okularni1whats happen here ?18:23
BluesKaj!ubuntu | okularni118:24
ubottuokularni1: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com18:24
okularni1whos here ?18:24
BluesKajok look at the nicklist18:27
BluesKajtoo late18:28
=== ben_r_ is now known as ben_r
root__someone here?18:29
TheTrobzsomeone here?18:29
TheTrobzi need help please18:29
=== phinxy is now known as Guest38975
guest_qualcosahi all18:30
=== guest_qualcosa is now known as GiupO
oerheks!ask | TheTrobz18:30
ubottuTheTrobz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:30
Southern_Gentlemis there a version of ubuntu that has efi 3218:30
Yiohi all18:30
TheTrobzReading package lists... Done18:30
TheTrobzBuilding dependency tree18:30
TheTrobzReading state information... Done18:30
TheTrobzPackage virtualbox-5.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.18:30
TheTrobzThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or18:30
TheTrobzis only available from another source18:30
=== GiupO is now known as MrGiupO
oerheksas of 15.10 the 32 bit iso has UEFI onboard18:32
oerheksbut if you want a 32 bit uefi for a 32 bit uefi/64 bit machine, there seems to b e a hack, but i would drop it18:33
MrGiupOis someone using mate 18.04 with multiple XScreen (mine has four) and nitrogen ? I have an issue, i can't set a desktop wallpaper for screen 0.1 0.2 0.3, screen 0.0 is able to change18:35
lankanmonHey guys, I cant seem to get my corsair machanical keyboard to detect while booting on the grub boot selector. I works fine in bios and in win mbr. I have checked to see that the switch on the back was on BIOS and have tried the other 3 settings on boot as well. Any ideas?18:35
Southern_Gentlemoerheks,  its actually an old macbook which is 32bit18:47
oerheksintel or powerpc?18:48
oerheks16.04 will do18:48
uebera||Southern_Gentlem: Kubuntu has 32bit packages for everything, IIRC.18:50
Southern_Gentlemuebera||, the 32bit efi is the main issue18:51
anliHas the package intltool been replaced?18:52
uebera||Southern_Gentlem: You're looking for "grub-efi-ia32 - GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (EFI-IA32 version)" and 'friends', right? They exist for 18.0418:52
oerheks"as of 15.10 the 32 bit iso has UEFI onboard"18:52
oerheksso 16.04.4 will do18:52
uebera||anli: intltool exists for 18.04 in "Section: universe/devel"18:55
anliCan I use apt to install it?18:55
oerheksyou better get used to systemd/systemctl and services18:56
uebera||anli: Yes. Why not simply try it? (make sure you have the universe repository enabled ("sudo add-apt-repository universe")18:56
anliAh, ok, could I do that in the debootstrap command line?18:57
anliI ran: debootstrap bionic folder18:57
iratedAnyone experienced getting Your Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is supported until April 2019. on ubuntu 18.04?18:57
oerheksHWE on 18.04 ?? i thought that was not supported yet18:59
iratedmy point exactly19:00
iratedim trying to figure out why the hell its happening19:00
oerhekswhat do you mean, 18.04 is just released, there is no release wioth newer xorg/wayland and/ or kernel19:00
ioriairated, 2019 is the deadline of the trusty hwe19:00
oerheksthat is the backport, HWE19:00
uebera||anli: If you look at the debootstrap manual, you'll see a "--components" option where you can specify the repositories.19:00
ioriairated, where and when did you get that msg ?19:01
oerheksirated,  so you have no issue with HWE on 18.04 :-)19:01
iratedioria: update-motd is generatin it19:02
iratedLooked deeper and found this command19:02
iratedI'm not sure what kernel comes with 18.04.19:04
iratedsI could read the script to find out exactly why its doing it, but was hoping someone knew off the top of their head19:04
ioriairated, cat /var/log/installer/media-info19:04
uebera||!info linux-libc-dev bionic19:08
ubottulinux-libc-dev (source: linux): Linux Kernel Headers for development. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0-24.26 (bionic), package size 974 kB, installed size 5003 kB19:08
uebera||irated: the version above should match the current kernel19:08
anliI need some more component beside universe, I suppose19:09
anliThere was no bin folder :)19:09
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/19:09
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:09
uebera||anli: "debootstrap bionic /mnt" should definitely create a bin folder…19:10
anliI already have a folder, not being mnt where I want the result to come19:11
anliBut I assume universe is not the only component I will need19:12
uebera||irated: On your system, does "dpkg --list | grep \\-hwe" produce any output?19:15
anliuebera||: So I ran debootstrap --components=universe bionic myfolder19:16
uebera||anli: And it did not install a minimal installation below myfolder? Then there should be an error message of sorts…19:17
uebera||anli: You might find this helpful (even if you don't care about zfs, it shows the steps how to use 'debootstrap', chroot into 'myfolder' and add additional repositories): https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS19:18
empedokles78Is it complicated to install kexi from a tar?: https://community.kde.org/Kexi/Releases#3.1.019:23
empedokles78Is it recommended?19:23
uebera||!info kexi bionic19:24
ubottukexi (source: kexi): integrated database environment for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.1.0-2 (bionic), package size 1738 kB, installed size 7607 kB19:24
uebera||empedokles78: Which version of Ubuntu are you currently using?19:25
empedokles78uebera||, 16.0419:25
uebera||!info kexi xenial19:26
ubottukexi (source: calligra): integrated database environment for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.9.7-0ubuntu12 (xenial), package size 4234 kB, installed size 12339 kB19:26
anliuebera||: Trying again, the base system is not installed, maybe I need another component beside univierse?19:26
anlidebootstrap.log did not reveals anything19:27
uebera||empedokles78: Personally, I prefer to use packages wherever possible. Makes it much easier to keep track. If the current Kexi is not available for Xenial in a third party repository you trust, you could backport it yourself. Still much cleaner than installing a .tar19:28
empedokles78uebera||, backport? I'm not a hacker unfortunately. :)19:29
anliDo I need to use --components=universe,alpha or something?19:29
empedokles78Okay, I'm using 2.9 then.19:29
irateduebera||: looking now.19:30
iratedSorry I was dealing with work stuff19:30
ioriairated, cat /var/log/installer/media-info19:30
uebera||anli: debootstrap is supposed to create a minimal system w/o any parameters apart from "<distribution> <target-dir>". Are you able to start a virtual machine using VirtualBox or qemu? I'd suggest to try the same steps in a clean environment (e.g., using the Live Desktop iso)19:32
anliI like the idea of having a minimal subsystem, I would prefer to not use a virtual host or software that is not needed19:33
anliI want to create a constant build system where a certain software will not fail to build19:33
anliWith softweare with versions that I can control19:34
uebera||anli: If you say that you don't see a minimal system nor an error message, then something is amiss with your current environment. Trying to use debootstrap and check the expected results can help you to determine what is not working (because for me, it just works). Of course, after fixing your primary environment, you need to repeat everything for a permanent minimal environemnt.19:34
anliI got the bin folder and other folders when not specifying --components19:35
uebera||anli: It is impossible to determine the reason why it does not work for you.19:35
uebera||anli: Ok, if that is the case, why not follow the howto I mentioned--chroot into the resulting environment and add the universal repository there manually, then install your desired package(s).19:36
anliI have almost no parameters in this problem, why does debootstrap bionic myfolder create a bin folder while debootstrap --components=universe bionic myfolder does not19:36
anliIts like universe is not a complete components list19:37
uebera||anli: Try to combine universe with all other environments, especially main19:37
uebera||anli: something like "--components main,contrib,non-free --include mydesiredpackage"19:38
anliSo main,universe must be the correct parameter value19:38
anliI think I will not need to use any others19:38
anli--include universe?19:39
uebera||anli: No, "include" takes names of packages, "components" takes names of repositories19:39
anlihm, strange, I get a bunch of non deletable files in myfolder because I have module files19:41
anliIn proc19:41
anli...for instance19:41
ioriaanli, may i ask you what are you doing ?19:41
anliI am setting up a minimal system for building gimp19:42
anliFrom source19:42
anliWhich will never fail19:43
anliHowever, my system refuses to remove myfolder because it contains files created with mknod19:43
uebera||anli: Using https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gimp.GIMP is not an option for you?19:44
anliIt gets confused by them19:44
anliNo, that is an installation webpage19:44
anliI am a developer19:45
uebera||I see.19:45
anlirm gives me "operation is not permitted" on those kernel files, seems someone is trying to protect me against something19:47
anliAs usual for no reason19:48
uebera||anli: Are you inside a non-privileged container?19:49
anliIt seems proc is not a folder19:49
anliI do not know what that is19:49
uebera||anli: I was referring to this --> https://linuxcontainers.org/19:50
anliI wish I can rm proc in that sub folder19:50
anliI am into a debootstrap chroot jail19:51
anliWell, there isnt really such a thing19:51
anliBut I assume you know what I mean19:51
uebera||anli: Did you follow the steps from the howto? Then the proc subdirectory is linked to your system /proc.19:52
anliI was only running debootstrap bionic myfolder19:52
anliThen myfolder contains a non-removable proc dir19:53
dunpealHi. I'm trying to `sudo apt upgrade`, and getting the following message:19:53
dunpeallibegl1 libgl1 libgl1:i386 libglvnd0 libglvnd0:i386 libglx0 libglx0:i38619:53
uebera||Ok, then you're *not* inside a chroot. (This usually means you executed chroot)19:53
dunpealThe following packages have been kept back:19:53
dunpeal  libegl1 libgl1 libgl1:i386 libglvnd0 libglvnd0:i386 libglx0 libglx0:i38619:53
dunpealWhat should I do, if anything.19:53
uebera||dunpeal: You can explicitly install them: paste the list of packages into the command line after "sudo apt install ".19:54
rdganyone have a fix for this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/177055319:54
anliAh, its of course only to umount those dirs19:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1770553 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "[SRU] backport ca-certificates-java from cosmic (20180516ubuntu1)" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:54
dunpealuebera||: should I?  what's even going on in there?19:54
oerheksuse sudo apt dist-upgrade19:54
rdgre: Ubuntu shipping with a Java keystore that older versions can't read19:54
dunpealoerheks: tried that too, no difference19:55
anliSo there is a problem in that debootstrap mounts things for me19:55
uebera||dunpeal: This means that there are updates for the packages you already installed, but these updates come with new dependencies (i.e., require additional packages to be installed). That's why by default, the updates are kept back.19:55
anliWell, maybe thats not a problem, only a necessity19:55
dunpealuebera||: ah. why :386 packages though?  my system is amd64, as are all my installed packages19:55
oerheksrdg, ugly ... but a temp fix is answer #319:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1770553 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "[SRU] backport ca-certificates-java from cosmic (20180516ubuntu1)" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:56
uebera||anli: No. debootstrap does not mount anything for you. You said you were inside a chroot, so I assumed you manually mounted the required system folders.19:56
uebera||anli: By installing a minimal system, however, very likely "mknod" was executed which creates the required special folders (/dev/ , ...)19:56
anliWhen I had only ran the line I showed you, I got those mount points, dunno if I had to chroot myfolder to get them19:57
uebera||!paste |  anli19:58
ubottuanli: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:58
uebera||anli: Which mount points were added after debootstrap?19:58
anli/root/myfolder/proc and /root/myfolder/sys in the host system19:59
anliOr what to call it19:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1771363 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu Bionic) "ca-certificates-java: convert PKCS12 cacerts keystore to JKS" [High,Triaged]20:00
uebera||anli: It would be better to call them "special folders". If you talk about mount point that appear, people assume that these were mounted using the mount command, e.g., "mount | grep /root" lists them.20:00
oerheksrdg ^20:00
anliWell, they are mounted with the mount command are they not?20:01
anlihm, when doing this again, I did not get those folders mounted20:01
uebera||anli: Not in this case as part of a chrooted environment. These folders are used as destination for [r]bind mounts. Have a look at the tutorial again, it contains the mount commands you need to execute prior to entering the chroot.20:02
MetalWolfHi, I have an mdadm array on ubuntu which i tried to grow from 5 disks to 6 disks.  Its got stuck at 82.8% and I'm seeing the following error INFO: task md0_reshape:174 blocked for more than 120 seconds..  I have tried rebooting and a live flash drive to assemble with --freeze-reshape but no joy20:02
MetalWolfany ideas how i can fix it if possible?20:02
MetalWolfI've attempted to mount the array but it doesn't mount20:02
=== ben_r_ is now known as ben_r
uebera||MetalWolf: I don't use mdadm myself. If you don't get an answer here, your best bet IMHO is too look for a mdadm specific troubleshooting guide like https://alwaystinkering.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/troubleshooting-linux-software-raid-mdadm/20:08
MetalWolfthanks uebera||20:10
blackflowMetalWolf: what raid level, how did you grow it, what's the mount error, did it assemble properly?20:12
MetalWolfblackflow: raid 5, it doesn't give an error when I try to mount it it just never actually mounts, same think I'm having when I examine it.  yes it re-assembled but started the reshape and got stuck at the same point20:14
MetalWolfI'll get the grow command just now20:14
MetalWolfmdadm --grow --raid-device=6 /dev/md0 /dev/sdd20:15
MetalWolfI stupidly forgot the backup flag :/20:15
MetalWolferr sorry20:18
MetalWolfno /dev/sdd at the end I had added /sdd using --add20:18
raidghostWhat is needed to be a apt mirror?20:18
blackflowMetalWolf: can you pastebin   cat /proc/mdstat?20:20
MetalWolfyep hold on a second20:21
MetalWolfblackflow: appreciate the help20:24
blackflowMetalWolf: what's sdf? not part of the array?20:25
MetalWolfsdf is the boot drive (USB flash)20:26
blackflowMetalWolf: and if you check mdstat again, it sits there at that same percentage?20:27
MetalWolfreshape = 82.8% (3236979712/3906854400) finish=644382.4min speed=17K/sec20:28
blackflowMetalWolf: can you pastebin say last 50 lines of dmesg?   dmesg | tail -n5020:28
blackflowMetalWolf: yeah that's some hard failing kernel there. Could be simply hardware issues. Thing is, I don't have any experience with such setups like 5-drive raid5 and you're adding 6th drive. I'm used to hard 3-drive raid5, or 4-drive raid6, with optional additional as hot spare20:32
MetalWolfgot similar issues when i moved to a usb boot flash20:33
blackflowand increased in factors of minimum drives per level, so for example X times 3 for raid5. the fact this is failing at that same percentage as you say, suggests some serious HW issues, could be two drives failing, but raid5 can tolerate only 120:33
MetalWolfwhat i don't understand is that all drives are showing as ok20:34
blackflowMetalWolf: I'd start by reseating sata cables. blow them off, could be accumulated dust causing signal loss, or even oxidation20:34
blackflowMetalWolf: showing wehre?20:34
MetalWolfwith mdadm examine20:34
blackflowthat's only reading metadat20:35
blackflowit's failing at resilvering20:35
MetalWolfall pass smart as well.... guess it could be two damaged blocks at the bit of the drive20:36
MetalWolfthe drives are in an hp microserver so are slide in rails.20:37
blackflowMetalWolf: smart is stupid. if it shows imminent failure, it _might_ fail. if it shows nothing, it _might_ fail.20:37
MetalWolflol true20:37
i4Who can give an worked advice for ubuntu to configure the grub2 boot menu resolution?20:37
MetalWolfI might try a different linux OS and see if it see's the drives and builds.20:37
i4Now is very low... I'll try to setup it from my notebook with 1600x900 res20:38
blackflowMetalWolf: there is however SMART conveyance test which supposedly does surface scans20:38
blackflowMetalWolf: come again which ubuntu is this?20:38
MetalWolfactually i tried with a 16.04 recovery pen.... might try 18.04 see if i get any joy20:40
blackflowMetalWolf: can you pastebin full dmesg? or at least more lines so full kernel backtrace is seen?20:42
MetalWolfhttps://pastebin.com/chZhfuZQ full since last reboot20:45
andrew09Any solution to this problem? "error while loading shared libraries: libatomic.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"20:49
blackflowMetalWolf: yeah, looks good until line 956, that's first failure. I'm sorry, I don't see from that _what_ exactly is causing it, but it being a kernel even like that suggests either hardware failure or a kernel bug20:50
MetalWolfI'll try 18.04 see if its a kernel bug20:52
blackflowMetalWolf: wait, where's that mdadm --examine pastebin?20:54
MetalWolfmdadm -examine never completes either-20:55
blackflowMetalWolf: nvm, found your previous post. you've got bad blocks on TWO drives, sda and sdg. So I'm guessing that's it. raid5 can only tolerate one drive failure.-20:56
MetalWolfcan i skip the bad blocks n accept the data loss?20:57
blackflowMetalWolf: I don't know. You could try Bionic, see if the newer mdadm and kernel can fare better, but I doubt it.20:57
irateduebera||: no it does not show anything20:58
blackflowMetalWolf: mdadm has no data checksumming and no ability to heal. once it starts seeing corruption, it's game over. I'd suggest you to consider ZFS or even btrfs (but not raid5 or 6 lol), or if you _really_ must, then hardware raid with self-healing ability20:58
andrew09Any solution to this problem? "error while loading shared libraries: libatomic.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"20:58
blackflowMetalWolf: 18.04 = Bionic Beaver20:58
takemei can’t open terminal after upgrade what’s wrong?20:59
blackflow!details | takeme20:59
ubottutakeme: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.20:59
MetalWolfoh gotcha lol21:00
MetalWolfdownloading now21:00
blackflowMetalWolf: anyway I think your problem is that you started array geometry reshape with bad blocks present on two drives. that's a problem because mdam wants to finish reshaping but it can't skip that step.21:00
MetalWolf*sighs* thanks blackflow21:02
blackflowandrew09: what's the context of that problem?21:02
andrew09blackflow: I'm trying to open Cydia Impactor21:02
blackflowMetalWolf: yeah sorry. mdadm is nice for whole drive falures, but totally incompetent for blockwise corruption.21:02
blackflowandrew09: that's not a regular package in Ubuntu, right?21:04
takemei can’t open terminal after upgrade what’s wrong? help me ubuntu users :(21:05
andrew09blackflow: do you know the path of these "shared libraries", I want to copy the file but I don't know where.21:06
blackflowandrew09: usually they're installed under /lib/ and /usr/lib/21:08
=== captain__broken is now known as CaptainFixerpc14
qwebirc39676someone could help with ubuntu 18.04 stuck at boot with message "A start job is running for Hold ut...finished up""21:10
Bashing-omqwebirc39676: This one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1779476 ?21:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1779476 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 18.04: gdm3 does not switch to graphics after update" [High,Incomplete]21:12
qwebirc39676How to identify which job hangs ?21:12
=== kostkon__ is now known as kostkon
blackflowqwebirc39676: it's plymouth-quit-wait.service.   See if removing 'splash' from kernel command line in grub helps21:16
qwebirc39676ok I'll try21:17
qwebirc39676@blackflow yes it helped21:22
qwebirc39676#blackflow but it still don't boor21:23
blackflowqwebirc39676: read the bug Bashing-om linked above. if you're hit by that entropy problem, moving mouse around for a few seconds should help. If it does, install 'haveged' when you log in.21:24
blackflow!info haveged21:24
ubottuhaveged (source: haveged): Linux entropy source using the HAVEGE algorithm. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.1-6 (bionic), package size 28 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for linux-any)21:24
Thorkelgood night to every one21:25
UrbanecmHi Thorkel!21:26
Thorkelthanks for the welcome21:26
UrbanecmYw, can I help you somehow Thorkel?21:27
Thorkelif you wanna...21:27
Thorkeli'v got a problem with Lubuntu21:27
UrbanecmJust write your question, somebody will reply :)21:27
=== mous40 is now known as mous
Thorkeli'v got a old pc running Lubuntu but did not detect de intel GMA3000 graphics card21:29
Thorkeli'v been looking arround on the web for 4 or more hours but didn't find out a solution21:30
Thorkelhave some one of you any whay to solve this situation?21:30
Thorkeli'v downloaded the intel privative drivers but i dont find the way to install them21:30
UrbanecmHmm, that isn't anything I understand, sorry. Hopefully somebody else will know21:31
qwebirc14881hi i have been trying all day to get my wifi to work its a rtl8723be21:31
Thorkelthanks in any case Urbanecm21:31
qwebirc14881can someone help me with the RTL8723BE, i tried the stuff on the forum and online and none of it is working :S21:38
Thorkelno one is talking here21:44
Thorkelmiss ye old goode days21:44
qwebirc39676I am talking to my walking-dead machine right know and it doesn't want to cooperate...21:45
Roland-hi folks, quick one anyway I can disable auto power off monitors on lock, but still able to lock21:58
Roland-I have a docking station, to power back on and login takes more than one minute21:58
Roland-seems like a gnome3 feature21:59
Lopewhat's the difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu live server?22:12
hggdhLope: none22:19
Lopeokay, thanks22:19
LopeI've gotta shutdown now, take care22:20
tkzvHello, can anybody tell if the default Vim has +cipboard feature enabled?22:24
tkzvI can't make "p* or "p+ to work22:24
tkzvFound :version. No, it doesn't. Does anybody know the package where it does?22:27
=== ptx0 is now known as kash
=== kash is now known as ptx0
mrpanda● systemd-modules-load.service loaded failed failed    Load Kernel Modules22:40
mrpandahow do i know wich kernel the system is ??22:40
geniiuname -a22:42
mrpandaalready had some strange spam virus in lubuntu/firefox22:43
mrpandai thought that was almost impossible22:44
ammiegirl808_REGISTER Passw0rd! ammiegirl808@gmail.com22:46
mrpandawell back to da drawing board22:46
Bitcoiner69how can I make my ubuntu instance turn into a router?22:48
=== daniel is now known as Guest87645
=== r0Oter is now known as r00ter
confluencyI strongly suggest a better password. :/22:56
=== fabricius1 is now known as fabricius
=== guto is now known as n0cturn0
=== dbugger_ is now known as Dbugger
whoamianymoreHow do you pronounce awk?23:28
conrCan anyone help with booting Ubuntu 16.04 with grub when I accidentally installed Kali with Katoolin?23:32
=== mous is now known as longcat
confluencywhoamianymore: exactly the way you spell it.23:40
confluencywhoamianymore: "awk", clearly.23:41
whoamianymoreconfluency: Is the k not silent though?23:41
confluencyI have no idea. I just say "awk".23:42
whoamianymoreBut you ignore the silent k and silent w?23:42
confluencyI just hold my breath for three letters.23:43
confluencyYou know, the way you normally say "awk".23:43
whoamianymoreI just find it odd you ignore the silent k, as well as the silent w and a23:44
confluencyEveryone knows what I mean; when I say "sed" that's also three silent letters but the tone is completely different.23:44
whoamianymoreI just grunt23:44
confluencyNo, no, that's vim.23:44
whoamianymoreThis all came from me trying to find a cli text editor for windows23:45
confluencyawk is a bold choice, but I can see how you could make that work.23:45
whoamianymoreI wanted something like nano tbh23:46
confluencyWell, that's four letters. That won't work at all.23:46
=== Rainbow|___ is now known as QuinnStorm
=== QuinnStorm is now known as Guest67996
=== Guest67996 is now known as QuinnStorm
=== QuinnStorm is now known as RtMF

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!