[05:19] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I could probably figure that part out as I did with Carla. But, alas, it's been a long day and I have some pertinent plans involving my bed and my head on my pillow. Also, tomorrow is looking to be a little interesting as my wife found a leak in the kitchen sinc.
[05:19] <Eickmeyer> *sink
[22:50] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: https://launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-plasma-settings
[22:51] <Eickmeyer> I couldn't simply link it, I had to clone and re-upload. That said, it still appears as owned by ubuntustudio-dev.
[22:51] <Eickmeyer> So, I'll delete your original and we'll use lp:ubuntustudio-plasma-settings from now on.
[22:52] <OvenWerks> ok
[22:52] <OvenWerks>  Glad I found out I was about to upload changes
[22:53] <OvenWerks> (mostly removal of uneeded stuff
[22:54] <Eickmeyer> Oh, okay. Just 'git remote set-url origin lp:ubuntustudio-plasma-settings' and bob's your uncle.
[22:55] <OvenWerks> it seems that many old no longer used directories of stuff were just laft in place
[22:55] <Eickmeyer> Just outdated way of doing things supplanted by new ways?
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> BTW, I did a big test on Wednesday using ubuntustudio-controls, catia, and Ardour. 0 xruns the entire time.
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> All on Plasma with compositing enabled.
[22:57] <OvenWerks>  :)
[23:00] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: all we need now is to get it released.
[23:00] <OvenWerks> it = -controls
[23:02] <Eickmeyer> Yep. I still think it needs a way to monitor xruns, but if we have tools like catia and ardour, those are more than capable. I think the bigger challenge is going to be getting Cadence (with catia) released since its changelog especially is a cluster.
[23:03] <OvenWerks> if you have cadence installed in order to get catia, can you have a normal no jack pulse desktop?
[23:03] <Eickmeyer> You don't have to have cadence installed in order to get catia.
[23:04] <OvenWerks> hmm, no jack running but pulse runs normally
[23:04] <OvenWerks> Ah.
[23:04] <Eickmeyer> Catia doesn't depend on cadence, but Cadence depends on catia.
[23:04] <Eickmeyer> That's why it's an ideal drop-in replacement for patchage.
[23:04] <OvenWerks> yes
[23:07] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: That said, Catia will run without Jack and can even start Jack, but the interface (read: graphical patchbay) will not function without Jack running.
[23:07] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: we would prefer catia (and any other sw) not to start jack :)
[23:08] <OvenWerks> the auto start function will start jackd rather than jackdbus.
[23:08] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yes. Catia is aware if jack is already running in some form.
[23:08] <Eickmeyer> It won't let you start it if it's already running.
[23:09] <OvenWerks> That does not hard -controls really, because -controls will killall -9 jackd as part of starting up.
[23:09] <Eickmeyer> Right.
[23:09] <OvenWerks> s/hard/harm/
[23:10] <Eickmeyer> It will let you stop Jack, and can restart using its own settings, but only if you tell it to do so. The advantage there is that you can use the dummy audio driver and specify number of ports on in/out, which is especially useful if simulating a setup.
[23:11] <Eickmeyer> However, for live production, letting -controls handle the connections is better.
[23:11] <OvenWerks> At some point I should look to see if cadence is running and only do things that add to cadence's capability like adding a usb device via zita-ajbridge
[23:12] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, the USB live plugging is something that no other graphical jack controller is currently handling.
[23:14] <OvenWerks> but right now I just want to get it out there
[23:20] <Eickmeyer> Indeed. Were you working with tsimonq2 or cyphermox? Or did we want to send Ross an email?
[23:21] <OvenWerks> I think tsimonq2 was looking at it. I cleaned up the lintian problems then I have heard nothing.
[23:21] <Eickmeyer> Okay. He's a busy guy, but I know he's watching. hehe
[23:23] <OvenWerks> I don't know so far as getting ubuntustudio-plasma.iso going
[23:23] <Eickmeyer> I alerted infinity and slangasek about it, but I don't know what's going on from there. Infinity says he'd welcome MPs.
[23:23] <OvenWerks> But once it gets started... then I will try our auto build of the settings against what is there
[23:24] <Eickmeyer> From their perspective, it's a new flavor, but we don't have to jump through the hoops that a new flavor needs to get started since we're already established.
[23:27] <OvenWerks> So basically go through the script set and add the plasma stuff along any studio things we find.
[23:27] <OvenWerks> fun, fun
[23:27] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, pretty much. I'd recommend jumping into #ubuntu-release and working with them there. Some of that stuff is a bit over my head.