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lotuspsychjegood morning to all03:13
EriC^^good morning all05:52
lotuspsychjemorning06:09
tomreynhi!06:19
tomreynso, if you dont mind a little poll: whom of you already uses wayland on a regular basis?06:20
tomreyni really like the idea of improving the overall desktop security, but i'm not yet sure how painful it would be.06:21
lotuspsychjenot me tomreyn 2 out of 3 boxes dont like wayland yet here06:21
tomreynbecause nvidia?06:21
lotuspsychjemy netbook and desktop both ati06:24
lotuspsychjexorg is workable06:24
lotuspsychjegot a few bug on it also06:24
tomreynoh, and those old ati's don't workj with wayland at all? fglrx then?06:25
lotuspsychjethey work, but lagging like hell06:26
lotuspsychjesame machines on xenial are rocketfast06:27
lotuspsychjeso its not really the hardware06:27
tomreynhmm i see06:29
ducassegood morning06:31
lotuspsychjemorning06:34
lotuspsychjetomreyn: i think your idea, will grow once .1 is out perhaps, see if the masses wanna use wayland or not06:35
lotuspsychjealso cosmic will influence this right06:39
tomreyni dont think it will gain traction with 18.04.1, but as soon as ubuntu or some other large distro switches to it by default.06:40
lotuspsychjehmm i dont think its ready yet for a default06:41
lotuspsychjehttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topic&q=Wayland06:43
lotuspsychjebbl06:43
tomreyni agree, it is not. but it's getting closer. i'm just wondering whether people are using is as a default environment, yet., i think i will.06:46
tomreynor rather, i'll give it a try.06:46
ducassei tried, but got annoyed at stuff that didn't work and all the little things that were missing06:48
tomreynwell, maybe it's a bit early still06:53
ducassei think so. another year or two, maybe...06:53
ducassei'm in no hurry, x11 serves me just fine06:53
MysticReverieanyone do hrd editing on linux/?  im having problems finding an easy program07:04
MysticReverieHDR*07:04
MysticReverieoops, sorry, wrong room07:05
ducassetomreyn: on discussion in ##linux - have you considered trying a netconsole?07:23
tomreynducasse: yes :)07:31
tomreynthanks07:31
ducassetomreyn: ok, then nvm me :)07:32
MysticReverieonly thing i use my virtual win10 now is for paintshop pro.07:38
MysticReverieI wonde rwhy adobe dont release linux software. lightroom is similar to paintshop pro, but not available also07:38
tomreynducasse: so http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_USBNMC.pdf is probably going to work in case you, too, ever need something liek this.07:39
ducassegood to know, thanks. it's been ages since i needed a serial cable, but it's nice to have in an emergency.07:42
BluesKajHi folks10:17
oerheksheya BluesKaj :-)10:19
BluesKajhi oerheks10:19
blackflowo/10:24
BluesKaj\o10:28
BluesKajfogged in here, can hardly see what's across the street10:34
lotuspsychjebbl belgium-england13:29
oerheksKijk live vanaf vandaag, 15:4713:30
lotuspsychjegood evening to all17:49
tomreyn220 mail.discuss.ubuntu.com ESMTP17:56
lotuspsychjewhats that tomreyn17:56
tomreyna silly nerd joke17:56
lotuspsychje:p17:57
tomreyna fake SMTP header17:57
tomreynoops i mean s/header/banner/17:58
lotuspsychjetomreyn: there were a few intel guys that couldnt boot few recent days17:58
lotuspsychjejust noticed17:59
tomreynlotuspsychje: yes, 18.04.0 is pretty borked17:59
lotuspsychjethat aint good17:59
tomreynbut i guess that's not so different from past LTS releases ;)17:59
lotuspsychjethats also true17:59
lotuspsychjeits our own fault :p18:00
tomreynyou just don't install .0 if you want it stable.18:00
lotuspsychjeits our fate, to float around in bugs18:00
lotuspsychjehere we go blackflow18:05
tomreynhttp://nyanit.com/usn.ubuntu.com18:08
lotuspsychjelets c18:08
lotuspsychjelol18:09
lotuspsychjehaving fun tomreyn18:09
tomreyn<lotuspsychje> its our fate, to float around in bugs18:09
tomreynsure18:09
tomreynplenty of coffeeine causes this reaction here18:10
lotuspsychjehaha18:10
lotuspsychjenice find or own creation tomreyn18:10
tomreynnot mine, no. it's oooold18:11
tomreyni should have given this url to the person who was using a website to get their monitor refresh rate yesterday.18:11
tomreynhttps://www.testufo.com/18:12
lotuspsychjelol18:13
lotuspsychjeim also having fun, browsing new ubuntu wiki's, sorted newest ontop18:15
lotuspsychjecurious what i run into18:15
lotuspsychje!zoneminder18:17
lotuspsychje!info zoneminder18:17
ubot5Package zoneminder does not exist in bionic18:17
lotuspsychjehmm18:17
lotuspsychje!info zoneminder xenial18:17
ubot5zoneminder (source: zoneminder): video camera security and surveillance solution. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.29.0+dfsg-1ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 1595 kB, installed size 14011 kB18:17
lotuspsychjeright18:17
lotuspsychjehttps://wiki.zoneminder.com/Ubuntu18:17
tomreynja, das funktioniert ganz gut, ist eigentlich ne häufig eingesetzte software dafür18:26
tomreynthis, but in english18:27
lotuspsychje:p18:27
* lotuspsychje gives tomreyn a fresh cold coktail to cool down18:27
tomreynyes, this works quite well.  it's actually a commonly used software for video surveillance (on linux)18:27
tomreynthanks. oh crap, it got coffeine!18:28
lotuspsychjelol18:28
lotuspsychjei had something like this recently https://briosmartlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/DOTW-darkandstormy.png18:51
tomreynlooks tasty19:01
lotuspsychjeyeah it surely was :p19:10
tomreynguess we lost jared :-/19:36
lotuspsychjeor perhaps he's doing the firmware upgrade too19:38
tomreynmaybe, in case he found out how19:39
lotuspsychjeif its not blocked by bios, it would at least show unclaimed in ubuntu right19:39
tomreynyes, i'd say so. there's no indication of either the wireless nor the bluetooth device in dmesg, i think it IS blocked by the bios.19:40
lotuspsychjeperhaps he's reinstalling19:41
tomreynwoah, i hope not19:42
lotuspsychjetomreyn: he's back20:07
tomreynthanks20:09
lotuspsychjedarekdeo: bionic gnome-software doesnt show updates anymore, came from 17.1020:22
lotuspsychjenite nite guys!20:23
tomreynsam here, need sleep. ttyl.21:01

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