[03:13] good morning to all [05:52] good morning all [06:09] morning [06:19] hi! [06:20] so, if you dont mind a little poll: whom of you already uses wayland on a regular basis? [06:21] i really like the idea of improving the overall desktop security, but i'm not yet sure how painful it would be. [06:21] not me tomreyn 2 out of 3 boxes dont like wayland yet here [06:21] because nvidia? [06:24] my netbook and desktop both ati [06:24] xorg is workable [06:24] got a few bug on it also [06:25] oh, and those old ati's don't workj with wayland at all? fglrx then? [06:26] they work, but lagging like hell [06:27] same machines on xenial are rocketfast [06:27] so its not really the hardware [06:29] hmm i see [06:31] good morning [06:34] morning [06:35] tomreyn: i think your idea, will grow once .1 is out perhaps, see if the masses wanna use wayland or not [06:39] also cosmic will influence this right [06:40] i dont think it will gain traction with 18.04.1, but as soon as ubuntu or some other large distro switches to it by default. [06:41] hmm i dont think its ready yet for a default [06:43] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topic&q=Wayland [06:43] bbl [06:46] i agree, it is not. but it's getting closer. i'm just wondering whether people are using is as a default environment, yet., i think i will. [06:46] or rather, i'll give it a try. [06:48] i tried, but got annoyed at stuff that didn't work and all the little things that were missing [06:53] well, maybe it's a bit early still [06:53] i think so. another year or two, maybe... [06:53] i'm in no hurry, x11 serves me just fine [07:04] anyone do hrd editing on linux/? im having problems finding an easy program [07:04] HDR* [07:05] oops, sorry, wrong room [07:23] tomreyn: on discussion in ##linux - have you considered trying a netconsole? [07:31] ducasse: yes :) [07:31] thanks [07:32] tomreyn: ok, then nvm me :) [07:38] only thing i use my virtual win10 now is for paintshop pro. [07:38] I wonde rwhy adobe dont release linux software. lightroom is similar to paintshop pro, but not available also [07:39] ducasse: so http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_USBNMC.pdf is probably going to work in case you, too, ever need something liek this. [07:42] good to know, thanks. it's been ages since i needed a serial cable, but it's nice to have in an emergency. [10:17] Hi folks [10:19] heya BluesKaj :-) [10:19] hi oerheks [10:24] o/ [10:28] \o [10:34] fogged in here, can hardly see what's across the street [13:29] bbl belgium-england [13:30] Kijk live vanaf vandaag, 15:47 [17:49] good evening to all [17:56] 220 mail.discuss.ubuntu.com ESMTP [17:56] whats that tomreyn [17:56] a silly nerd joke [17:57] :p [17:57] a fake SMTP header [17:58] oops i mean s/header/banner/ [17:58] tomreyn: there were a few intel guys that couldnt boot few recent days [17:59] just noticed [17:59] lotuspsychje: yes, 18.04.0 is pretty borked [17:59] that aint good [17:59] but i guess that's not so different from past LTS releases ;) [17:59] thats also true [18:00] its our own fault :p [18:00] you just don't install .0 if you want it stable. [18:00] its our fate, to float around in bugs [18:05] here we go blackflow [18:08] http://nyanit.com/usn.ubuntu.com [18:08] lets c [18:09] lol [18:09] having fun tomreyn [18:09] its our fate, to float around in bugs [18:09] sure [18:10] plenty of coffeeine causes this reaction here [18:10] haha [18:10] nice find or own creation tomreyn [18:11] not mine, no. it's oooold [18:11] i should have given this url to the person who was using a website to get their monitor refresh rate yesterday. [18:12] https://www.testufo.com/ [18:13] lol [18:15] im also having fun, browsing new ubuntu wiki's, sorted newest ontop [18:15] curious what i run into [18:17] !zoneminder [18:17] !info zoneminder [18:17] Package zoneminder does not exist in bionic [18:17] hmm [18:17] !info zoneminder xenial [18:17] zoneminder (source: zoneminder): video camera security and surveillance solution. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.29.0+dfsg-1ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 1595 kB, installed size 14011 kB [18:17] right [18:17] https://wiki.zoneminder.com/Ubuntu [18:26] ja, das funktioniert ganz gut, ist eigentlich ne häufig eingesetzte software dafür [18:27] this, but in english [18:27] :p [18:27] * lotuspsychje gives tomreyn a fresh cold coktail to cool down [18:27] yes, this works quite well. it's actually a commonly used software for video surveillance (on linux) [18:28] thanks. oh crap, it got coffeine! [18:28] lol [18:51] i had something like this recently https://briosmartlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/DOTW-darkandstormy.png [19:01] looks tasty [19:10] yeah it surely was :p [19:36] guess we lost jared :-/ [19:38] or perhaps he's doing the firmware upgrade too [19:39] maybe, in case he found out how [19:39] if its not blocked by bios, it would at least show unclaimed in ubuntu right [19:40] yes, i'd say so. there's no indication of either the wireless nor the bluetooth device in dmesg, i think it IS blocked by the bios. [19:41] perhaps he's reinstalling [19:42] woah, i hope not [20:07] tomreyn: he's back [20:09] thanks [20:22] darekdeo: bionic gnome-software doesnt show updates anymore, came from 17.10 [20:23] nite nite guys! [21:01] sam here, need sleep. ttyl.