[03:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:52] <EriC^^> good morning all
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> morning
[06:19] <tomreyn> hi!
[06:20] <tomreyn> so, if you dont mind a little poll: whom of you already uses wayland on a regular basis?
[06:21] <tomreyn> i really like the idea of improving the overall desktop security, but i'm not yet sure how painful it would be.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> not me tomreyn 2 out of 3 boxes dont like wayland yet here
[06:21] <tomreyn> because nvidia?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> my netbook and desktop both ati
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> xorg is workable
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> got a few bug on it also
[06:25] <tomreyn> oh, and those old ati's don't workj with wayland at all? fglrx then?
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> they work, but lagging like hell
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> same machines on xenial are rocketfast
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> so its not really the hardware
[06:29] <tomreyn> hmm i see
[06:31] <ducasse> good morning
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> morning
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: i think your idea, will grow once .1 is out perhaps, see if the masses wanna use wayland or not
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> also cosmic will influence this right
[06:40] <tomreyn> i dont think it will gain traction with 18.04.1, but as soon as ubuntu or some other large distro switches to it by default.
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> hmm i dont think its ready yet for a default
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topic&q=Wayland
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:46] <tomreyn> i agree, it is not. but it's getting closer. i'm just wondering whether people are using is as a default environment, yet., i think i will.
[06:46] <tomreyn> or rather, i'll give it a try.
[06:48] <ducasse> i tried, but got annoyed at stuff that didn't work and all the little things that were missing
[06:53] <tomreyn> well, maybe it's a bit early still
[06:53] <ducasse> i think so. another year or two, maybe...
[06:53] <ducasse> i'm in no hurry, x11 serves me just fine
[07:04] <MysticReverie> anyone do hrd editing on linux/?  im having problems finding an easy program
[07:04] <MysticReverie> HDR*
[07:05] <MysticReverie> oops, sorry, wrong room
[07:23] <ducasse> tomreyn: on discussion in ##linux - have you considered trying a netconsole?
[07:31] <tomreyn> ducasse: yes :)
[07:31] <tomreyn> thanks
[07:32] <ducasse> tomreyn: ok, then nvm me :)
[07:38] <MysticReverie> only thing i use my virtual win10 now is for paintshop pro.
[07:38] <MysticReverie> I wonde rwhy adobe dont release linux software. lightroom is similar to paintshop pro, but not available also
[07:39] <tomreyn> ducasse: so http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_USBNMC.pdf is probably going to work in case you, too, ever need something liek this.
[07:42] <ducasse> good to know, thanks. it's been ages since i needed a serial cable, but it's nice to have in an emergency.
[10:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:19] <oerheks> heya BluesKaj :-)
[10:19] <BluesKaj> hi oerheks
[10:24] <blackflow> o/
[10:28] <BluesKaj> \o
[10:34] <BluesKaj> fogged in here, can hardly see what's across the street
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> bbl belgium-england
[13:30] <oerheks> Kijk live vanaf vandaag, 15:47
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:56] <tomreyn> 220 mail.discuss.ubuntu.com ESMTP
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> whats that tomreyn
[17:56] <tomreyn> a silly nerd joke
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:57] <tomreyn> a fake SMTP header
[17:58] <tomreyn> oops i mean s/header/banner/
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: there were a few intel guys that couldnt boot few recent days
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> just noticed
[17:59] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: yes, 18.04.0 is pretty borked
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> that aint good
[17:59] <tomreyn> but i guess that's not so different from past LTS releases ;)
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> thats also true
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> its our own fault :p
[18:00] <tomreyn> you just don't install .0 if you want it stable.
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> its our fate, to float around in bugs
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> here we go blackflow
[18:08] <tomreyn> http://nyanit.com/usn.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> having fun tomreyn
 its our fate, to float around in bugs
[18:09] <tomreyn> sure
[18:10] <tomreyn> plenty of coffeeine causes this reaction here
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> haha
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> nice find or own creation tomreyn
[18:11] <tomreyn> not mine, no. it's oooold
[18:11] <tomreyn> i should have given this url to the person who was using a website to get their monitor refresh rate yesterday.
[18:12] <tomreyn> https://www.testufo.com/
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> im also having fun, browsing new ubuntu wiki's, sorted newest ontop
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> curious what i run into
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !zoneminder
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !info zoneminder
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !info zoneminder xenial
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> right
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> https://wiki.zoneminder.com/Ubuntu
[18:26] <tomreyn> ja, das funktioniert ganz gut, ist eigentlich ne häufig eingesetzte software dafür
[18:27] <tomreyn> this, but in english
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:27]  * lotuspsychje gives tomreyn a fresh cold coktail to cool down
[18:27] <tomreyn> yes, this works quite well.  it's actually a commonly used software for video surveillance (on linux)
[18:28] <tomreyn> thanks. oh crap, it got coffeine!
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> i had something like this recently https://briosmartlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/DOTW-darkandstormy.png
[19:01] <tomreyn> looks tasty
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> yeah it surely was :p
[19:36] <tomreyn> guess we lost jared :-/
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> or perhaps he's doing the firmware upgrade too
[19:39] <tomreyn> maybe, in case he found out how
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> if its not blocked by bios, it would at least show unclaimed in ubuntu right
[19:40] <tomreyn> yes, i'd say so. there's no indication of either the wireless nor the bluetooth device in dmesg, i think it IS blocked by the bios.
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> perhaps he's reinstalling
[19:42] <tomreyn> woah, i hope not
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: he's back
[20:09] <tomreyn> thanks
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> darekdeo: bionic gnome-software doesnt show updates anymore, came from 17.10
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys!
[21:01] <tomreyn> sam here, need sleep. ttyl.