[00:00] dunnousernamefn: you may want to google how to get gdb or lldb to correctly find the source code for a program you're debugging btw. I haven't done this in a while so I can't remember, but you should be able to do it. [00:01] I imagine they're standard debugging symbols [00:01] Yes, they're in DWARF format and understood by both debuggers. [00:03] dunnousernamefn: btw, in case you're not aware, ``apt-get source YOUR_PKG_NAME`` is also your friend [00:04] Does that give the source code? [00:04] yeap [00:04] wow [00:04] Kinda hard to debug without source code, unless you like reading assembly :P [00:04] although you will need to have configured apt to look for the deb-src repos [00:05] which should usually be commented out in /etc/apt/*.conf or whatever the repo conf files are [00:05] or via some program if you search for "repositories" or something [00:05] I'm not using a package, I was just curious about -dbg [00:05] I'm also trying to debug something I built from source [00:06] So that might've been kinda confusing [00:06] oh, then that should make things much easier. [00:07] anyone else have trouble with 18.04 server not detecting existing partitions on local disks during the install? not sure what it up [00:09] because everything is -fPIC, the addresses are offset by some unknown amount (I think) [00:09] or maybe GDB really doesn't see any symbols [00:09] tknp: what partitioning scheme do you have? MBR-style, GPT, LVM? === ilfantomas_ is now known as ilfantomas [00:10] dunnousernamefn: with -fPIC, variables (and other stuff) use an indirect offset into the ``.got`` section of the ELF file. and the dynamic linker updates where they point to when the library or app loads. [00:10] I'm not sure what that means, but I think it means "I can't do anything about it" [00:11] if fPIC is off, stuff like global variable has offsets hard-coded into the assembly code, rather than generating assembly code that, as I said, refers to the ``.got`` table [00:11] dunnousernamefn: `readelf -a YOUR_PROGRAM`` is your friend btw :3 [00:11] I did use readelf [00:11] dunnousernamefn: also ``objdump -d YOUR_PROGRAM`` [00:11] just some basic ext4 partitions spread across a local disk using mbr [00:11] it might be a good idea to generate an fPIC and one non-fPIC program and compare the assembly generated with ``objdump -d``. [00:12] Let me tell you completely what's happening: I'm getting a nullptr, and it tells what function, but I don't get a line number [00:12] and there are many dereferences there [00:12] Hmm, this ir probably closer to the realm of programming general, and not #ubuntu-specific support now though. [00:12] Though I have no idea what IRC channel would be good for helping with debugging. [00:13] Maybe ##workingset [00:13] I'd guess probably the official LLVM/LLDB channel (if there is one) or the GDB channel maybe. [00:13] woah, we have a gdb channel? [00:13] ooh [00:14] Probably. I have no idea what channels are on Freenode. [00:14] I found it [00:14] thanks [00:15] @bapa sorry, I am using gpt [00:22] hi all, need help with logrotate. Under lastaction how can I get the filename AFTER dateext/dateformat have renamed the file. I need to pass in the exact filename to an external script. if I use $1 inside lastaction, i am receiving the plain file name /var/log/mylog but I want /var/log/mylog-2018-07-13-1531550948. thanks! [00:24] aha, I figured it out === bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan [00:50] hello [00:50] exit [01:17] I'm trying to `snap install lxd` in an lxd container running ubuntu artful, but the installation fails with "- Mount snap "core" (4917) ([start snap-core-4917.mount] failed with exit status 1: Job for snap-core-4917.mount failed." Any ideas? [01:20] How do I fix "We're having trouble finding that site" problem in Firefox [01:24] Nevermind, just realized 17.10's EOL is this month anyway [01:24] I never had a problem with the older version of Ubuntu..current version seems very buggy [01:25] chuck__: this could be caused by anything other than ubuntu. what does `ping -c3 1.1.1.1` say? [01:27] says Network is unreachable [01:27] Several web sites seem to work fine [01:27] Links to other sites like Amazon or Lowes seem to crash every time [01:30] Its almost like it lost its ability to automatically link to the DNS [01:36] quit [01:43] I'm hoping since I'm trying to install 18.04 this is the right place. So I have one of those crappy Clovertrail tablets with 32 bit UEFI and I have the strangest problem...after the kernel bootstrap process I completely lose USB functionality. Since the only method of input on these things is USB I basically lose any ability to install a distro on this godforsaken thing... Anyone have any kernel parameters that might fix it? [01:43] USB works in reFINd so I'm guessing after a root hub reset the whole thing breaks? [01:55] joshumax: does the machine have a current OS on it? [01:56] pragmaticenigma: Yeah, a horrendously buggy version of Win10 [01:57] joshumax: Judging but what I glanced through on the web... If this is your first forey into the world of linux, you've picked one really big up hill battle [01:57] pragmaticenigma: I used to do development on the GNU/Hurd and I already have a few patches in the kernel so I'm not afraid to get messy with hardware :P [01:58] I'm just trying to avoid having to do a ton of work if it's a simple fix that someone knows about [01:58] the install drive has the EFI file in the /EFI/boot directory? [01:59] pragmaticenigma: Yeah, I have a 32-bit version of grub in there and it boots to grub just fine. [01:59] The kernel boots too and loads up a mini ramdisk [02:00] But none of the USB ports work, which is a major PITA because these thing only has USB ports. Even the ethernet is routed through the USB controller, so ssh isn't an option [02:01] Does it get to a live instance ? I can't remember if you can boot live drives with UEFI [02:02] pragmaticenigma: Yeah I can get to a live instance [02:02] and usb stays live there? [02:03] Nope. So I can't do much unless everything I need is already loaded in RAM by grub [02:03] Which affords me about a max of 1GB of room to play around (assuming I could which I can't thanks to both the touchscreen and keyboard not working) [02:06] I might be able to get a teensy bit more if I do something crazy like have grub shove the kernel into the graphics SRAM buffer or something but that would only get me about ~4 more MB === amirpro_ is now known as amirpro [02:17] not sure joshumax ... I've avoided all things UEFI like the plague [02:25] When will xenial -> bionic do-release-upgrade be available? [02:27] estimated date is July 26th, Krenair [02:29] pragmaticenigma, cool thanks, is there a page with this info somewhere? [02:30] is it always following the .1 update? [02:31] Krenair: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule [02:31] Yeah I saw that [02:32] not sure I understand what you mean "following the .1 update" ? [02:32] well 18.04 is already out [02:32] but it sounds like the do-release-upgrade enabling of updating from previous versions happens after 18.04.1 gets released? [02:34] Krenair: The .1 releases usually contain a mass amount of bug fixes from the initial release. The Ubuntu team holds on the LTS release to ensure as many bugs are worked out so they can also flag it "ready for business" [02:34] I see so this is the regular procedure when making a new LTS [02:35] yes [02:35] thanks pragmaticenigma [02:35] also the focus on releasing 18.04 doesn't include generating the upgrade scripts, that comes after the release [02:37] i have now been asked to leave #freenode by the dictator mniip and #debian by the clown unit193. [02:37] I am still on my peaceful voyage seeking a place to fuck my turtles in peace without being harassed by the sex nazis === davor_ is now known as davor === ztrawhcse is now known as elibrokeit [03:33] does anyone know how apt knows who has requested a package install etc? [03:35] I just installed ubuntu and can't login via root [03:35] I don't recall seeing anything that asked for a password for root on the install either [03:36] you're supposed to sudo [03:36] no root account at all? [03:36] yes [03:36] using a root account is bad [03:37] thanks [03:39] So the lua-lgi package [03:40] (under artful) [03:40] writes to /usr/share/lua/5.2/lgi and /usr/share/lua/5.1/lgi [03:40] but not /usr/share/lua/5.3/lgi [03:41] what's the best package to set up wifi on ubuntu? [03:41] but lua5.3 is available as a package [03:41] klandestine, for me it just worked out the box [03:42] I have a cable connected to the ethernet port [03:42] I'll figure it out... [03:43] next question is how do I get cinnamon on ubuntu? === MR_X is now known as Guest30160 [03:45] hallo? [03:47] granttrec: where do you see apt knowing which user requested a package installation? [03:47] tomreyn: /var/log/apt/history* [03:48] oh right. i guess the dameon just records your uid then [03:50] if you're running it though sudo it may just record $SUDO_USER [03:50] i don't know the exact approach t takes, though. [03:52] klandestine: sudo apt install cinnamon # or cinnamon-desktop-environment [03:52] will it work on a reboot? [03:52] klandestine: you mean whether this change persists? yes. [03:53] you will need to choose the desktop environment to login during login [03:53] after entering your username on the graphical login prompt a little cog should appear, allowing you to set the desired DE. [03:54] I rebooted after install cinnamon-common and when I try to login it just goes to a purple screen with a cursor [03:55] tomreyn: thanks I think this is what I am looking for [03:55] klandestine: you installed only "cinnamon-common'? [03:55] yes [03:55] welcome granttrec [03:56] klandestine: why, was the rest already installed then? [03:57] klandestine: sudo apt install cinnamon # or cinnamon-desktop-environment [03:57] no, I take that back. I installed cinnamon-core [03:57] well, still wrong ;) [03:58] but it's a step closer already [03:58] I just started the install for desktop envioronment [03:59] you may want to "sudo apt-mark auto cinnamon-common cinnamon-core" if you previously ran 'apt install' with both of these packages listed on the command line. [04:00] run that command after cinnamon-desktop-envioronment? [04:00] yes [04:01] that will set cinnamon to the default dm? [04:01] de? [04:02] no. selecxting it at login once using the cog will. [04:03] here's why i suggested running 'apt-mark auto' against these packages the cinnamon-desktop depends on (which you previously asked apt to install): when you 'apt install somepackage' then somepackage is set a 'manually installed', i.e. apt will remember that you explicitly asked it to install 'somepackage', whereas if you had installed 'someotherpackage-which-depends-on-somepackage' it would have marked 'somepackage' as automatically installed. [04:04] this makes a difference when you later uninstall packages. those packages you didn't seem to have manually chosen to be installed will just be removed if nothing else depends on them. [04:05] i.e. 'cinnamon-core' will be be staged for removal when you remove 'cinnamon' by default, i think. but not if you previously pecifically requested 'cinnmon-core' to be installed. [04:06] maybe too much detail for now. ;) [04:06] I dont' see the cog [04:06] klandestine: which ubuntu veriso is it? [04:06] *version [04:06] 18 [04:06] do you mean 18.04? [04:07] yes [04:07] there is no '18' [04:07] I had to look. I just remembered the 18 [04:07] okay, i'll try in a vm [04:09] klandestine: is this what your login screen looks like after selecting the user to sign in with? http://i.imgur.com/R5Rhz9V.png [04:10] here's what i get when clicking on the cog: http://i.imgur.com/Rkvse0I.png [04:10] (it would look different for you) [04:10] I just installed another desktop manager and rebooted [04:11] I'm following directions on a site I found [04:11] this can be good, or bad, depends on the site you found ;) [04:12] we'll find out if it's good... [04:13] if you don't want to do a full reboot, you could also log out, press ctrl-alt-f4, log in there, type "sudo systemctl restart lightdm", press ctrl-alt-f4, logout there, press ctrl-alt-f1 [04:14] I got it [04:14] not really easier, and maybe not faster either. [04:14] the only thing strange (to me at least) is the wallpaper is the debian insignia [04:15] hmm, maybe the cinnamon desktop environment folks didnt change it to ubuntu. [04:15] guess not [04:16] well, you can most likely change it [04:16] I will at some point [04:23] Having a weird issue with Ubuntu MATE on my raspberry pi. Installed OpenVPN but cannot add config files because I see no such option in the NetworkManager GUI [04:24] raspi-user3445tg: sudo apt install network-manager-openvpn-gnome [04:24] you may need to logout and login afterwards [04:25] Thanks I'll give it a try! Not on GNOME but... why not? As they say: if it works, it works. [04:27] i think 'gnome' just refers to gtk (as opposed to kde/qt) there [04:27] DNS leaks are another issue entirely though. Something I've had a problem with on nearly every Ubuntu based OS I've used. That's one of the reasons I prefer Fedora. If they fixed that, I'd love Ubuntu. [04:27] Ah gotcha [04:29] not everyone uses VPNs for privacy reasons. i guess most people dont. so the default configuration may not take this into account. [04:29] Trisquel, for instance, the libre version of Ubuntu is absolutely great. But since it's based on Ubuntu, my VPN constantly leaks DNS requests to my ISP. Just one of those things. Other than that, Ubuntu is pretty great. A much greater software repository than RedHat's, that's for sure. [04:30] Yes you are probably right. For me I can't live without my VPN on. It's like changing in front of an open window at night, even with the most innocent of things. [04:31] It works!! Thank you so much!! Now to fix those DNS leaks... Oh I hate IPTables [04:31] there is gufw [04:37] Howdy folks. I am trying to download all packages in a PPA, for later optional installation of user-defined packages. I _only_ want to download the packages to make them available for later installation, so I am using `apt-get -y install --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests --download-only` [04:38] However, some packages report conflicts. Is it possible to ignore this error and force the package download anyway? [04:38] jtreminio: we dont really support adding of external ppa's here mate [04:38] jtreminio: they are a risk to scramble your system [04:39] lotuspsychje, ignoring it being from a PPA, my main question is simply downloading the packages for later optional installation [04:39] "Simply" being relative, of course :) [04:40] jtreminio: should work as long as you dont remove the apt source and dont clear the cache, and prevent it from getting cleared automatically [04:41] tomreyn, yeah, that's what I had hoped, but there's an error https://dpaste.de/d2UX [04:42] now that's where what lotuspsychje said applies again ;) [04:43] jtreminio: is it possible you can find your needed packages from the official repos? [04:43] Does this being from a PPA really matter though? I imagine there's packages in official repos that conflict if attempted to be installed, but I really only want to download the .deb files locally [04:43] jtreminio: apt download packagename or so? [04:44] or apt-cache, cant remember [04:44] if you're using sury's php PPA, you ought to be read his instructions [04:45] tomreyn, I had the goal of creating a docker image whenever a new build is released, so a year from now someone can spin up a php 7.2.4 container, for example, and be able to install any of the packages in the PPA at the point in time the image was originally created [04:46] I understand y'alls avoidance of PPAs in general, but I would have imagined the problem I was running into was more general in nature [04:46] "force apt-get install --download-only to ignore conflicts and just download the devs' [04:46] s/devs/debs [04:48] Can anyone tell me where I can download irc wav sounds for kick, ban, alerts etc? [04:48] ovaltradej: whats your irc client? [04:48] jtreminio: i suggest you talk to Ondřej Surý , maybe the two of you will develop a public service out of it? [04:51] ovaltradej: /join #konversation [04:51] Strange my VPN connection keeps failing because it is timing out [04:52] raspi-user3445tg: that's before or after you edited your iptables rule set? ;-) [04:52] I'm there tomreyn nobody is around [04:52] ovaltradej: i'm afraid we can't magically make people appear there [04:54] they probbaly have some web forum or similar, too, though [05:26] I really wish DuckDuckGo was the default search engine with Ubuntu installs, not Google. Also HTTPSeverywhere and uBlock would be a great default ad-on [05:27] ^ Google is love, Google is Life! [05:35] Google is data capitalism and PRISM [05:35] exit [05:35] exit === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [06:02] hello , I could not to start into my ubuntu system,and i got a failure msg in grub CLI. It says that `failure reading sector from hd0`, and when I use 'ls' in grub , Iget the msg of (hd0) （hd1,gpt1)... I only have onr HD disk in the computer and which is the hd1. However, which is the hd0 ? [06:03] why there is a hd0 in the grub CLI, and read failure? [06:04] dzipc_: so grub lists two disks? [06:04] yes [06:05] can you paste/screenshot? [06:05] and when I use `ls (hd0)` it returns unknow filesystem [06:05] wait for a moment [06:06] try ls (hd0)/ [06:09] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kYlSjq7s/irccloudcapture1158927316.jpg [06:10] here is the picture [06:12] In the live CD system, I can only see a disk with `sudo fdisk -l` [06:13] I really don't know what the hd0 is. [06:14] looks messed up [06:14] have you tried reconfiguring grub? [06:19] It's a server with a virtual RAID6 disk. I have already rebuild the RAID disk, format every data and re-install ubuntu, but changes nothing. I also tried reconfigure grub in the CLI and run grub-repair in the live-CD. [06:19] but booting from hd1 works? [06:22] dzipc_: there's been a grub bug recently for uefi systems [06:23] dzipc_: type "ls (hd1,gpt2)/" [06:23] hello [06:24] (hd1,gpt2) is the / dir and all the files can be ls [06:25] dzipc_: can't you just ignore this then? :) [06:26] but it can't boot in hd1 [06:26] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/d94OdbKN/irccloudcapture186123306.jpg [06:27] why not? === enko-h is now known as enko [06:31] what should i do is using `root ` and `kernal` command to set hd1 in the grub? or use the grub-repair? [06:33] dzipc_: type "configfile (hd1,gpt2)/boot/grub/grub.cfg" [06:36] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9wN05n9W/irccloudcapture2070719184.jpg [06:37] i have typed .and should i reboot? [06:38] EriC^^: done with it [06:42] all the same😭 === qwebirc15804 is now known as joaco [06:46] dzipc_: huh [06:46] dzipc_: after typing it you should have gotten the grub screen (the menu) [06:52] dzipc_: can you tel us more about the "virtual RAID6"? is this hardware raid (if so, which hardware), fakraid? [06:56] EriC^^: there is no grub dir in the /boot [06:56] dzipc_: aha are there any other files? [06:57] git clone https://github.com/phracker/irssi-themes [06:58] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pkp90X9p/irccloudcapture317165021.jpg [06:58] Hey, can I install gshell-system-monitor or similar in the top bar without installing browsers or browser extensions in 18.04? [06:59] dzipc_: do you have a live usb you can boot? [06:59] yes i have [06:59] ok boot it and report back [07:01] manny: i never did this, but this seems to explain how you could: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/76-gnome/283-gnome-shell-install-extension-command-line-script [07:06] tomreyn: thanks. Anyway, don't you think is a bit cumbersome to have to do all that stuff to just install such a basic and fundamental OS utility? [07:07] I am running a program in a screen but after dettaching from it like 10 hours ago and reattaching now, I can no longer type in it [07:07] and force killing it isn't really an option [07:08] manny: you already have ps and top, i assume? [07:08] tomreyn: yes, but this is a desktop. I want to be able to check the load when Im not on the terminal. [07:10] manny: since you'Re asking my personal opinion: IF there is no other, easier, way to install gnome extensions, which does not depends on installing the gnome extension manager browser add-on beforehand (I would not know whether that's the case), then I'd agree, it should be easier. [07:11] (but we should move discussions to other channels) [07:12] Desetude: maybe it's locked? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/261477/gnu-screen-locked-how-to-unlock [07:13] EriC^^: cognosco4 ppf thks for your help. My new SSD have arrived, i will install it and retry. [07:13] tomreyn: yes, but this is a desktop. I want to be able to check the load when Im not on the terminal. [07:13] dzipc_: ok [07:14] tomreyn: sorry [07:16] tomreyn: what I wanted to say - and I will stop this now - is that I'n not to happy with some Ubuntu 18.04 decisions. For example, file manager now does a fuzzy search when a key is pressed on the whole FS instead of selecting files by name in the current dir. Annoying. Anyway, thanks for the help. I just wanted to express my opinion about it. [07:18] tomreyn: well it looks like to unlock Im meant to CTRL+A CTRL+X and I do that then put in root's pw but it doesnt fix it [07:19] manny: right, this kind of chat does not belong into this support channel, and i'm the wrong audience for it, too. [07:20] tomreyn: Ok thanks, sorry for the noise. [07:22] Desetude: i'm afraid i have no oither suggestions [07:22] manny: you're welcome [07:24] Hi! I'm trying to install bios grub. I've made a raw partition and run grub-install on it. It boots up, but it only shows the grub console. I guess it can't see the grub config file. How can I make it see the config? Is there an option for it? [07:24] tmch2: are you in grub> right now? [07:25] Eric^^: yes. if i white "configfile ...", it boots up okay [07:25] tmch2: ok boot into the install and type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link [07:35] hai [07:35] anyone please help me [07:38] !as [07:39] !ask [07:39] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [07:40] Eric^^: http://www.termbin.com/hlo7 [07:41] tmch2: type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" [07:45] EriC^^: http://www.termbin.com/bedh [07:46] tmch2: type "ls /sys/firmware/efi" [07:46] does it list dirs? [07:51] EriC^^: Should I be booted into the system I'm trying to boot or the livecd i was installing grub from? Maybe I should try to reinstall grub from the system itself and it will work? [07:52] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zfDoox2w/irccloudcapture1100145040.jpg [07:52] i add ssd and reinstall, but into thia cli [07:53] this [07:55] there ia onlu build-in efi choice in boot menu [07:55] is only [07:56] tmch2: it's ok to do it from the live usb [07:57] tmch2: where do you have the rootfs mounted? [07:57] dzipc_: are you in the grub> right now? [07:58] dzipc_: tmch2 you both have the same grub bug, it has a solution though [07:59] i can't into grub now. It's in the efi shell [07:59] dzipc_: ok can you boot a live usb? [08:01] EriC^^: it seems to be mounted on / on the system I'm trying to boot [08:04] tmch2: are you in the live usb right now? === bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan [08:06] EriC^^: yes [08:09] tmch2: type "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" [08:12] EriC^^: Can I just write what you're lookng for there? I don't have network there. [08:12] tmch2: can you get an internet connection there? [08:14] EriC^^: I don't know, I've tried copying my /etc/network/interfaces into the livecd, but wi-fi wouldn't work. I guess I'm doing something wrong. [08:15] tmch2: doesn't it have a gui? [08:16] tmch2: what does "sudo nmcli dev wifi" show? [08:17] it's not installed [08:18] EriC^^: I can boot a live CD but it's so sorry that I have toleave and back in hours . Could you tell me what should i do when i boot into the live system? [08:20] dzipc_: try to create a dir in the efi partition /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu and copy the contents of /boot/efi/efi/grub to that dir including the grub.cfg there [08:20] /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg [08:21] dzipc_: also since the ssd didnt boot you might need to chroot and reinstall grub or fiddle around with efibootmgr if your laptop is stubborn to boot with uefi [08:21] now i am in the efi shell.when I installed the system，there is no ubuntu boot choice [08:21] ok,thanks,i will try [08:22] dzipc_: check this site if nobody here is available to help http://pchelp.site/topics/post-install-issues [08:23] tmch2: type "lsblk" is the rootfs mounted somewhere? [08:24] hello [08:24] tmch2: try "mount | grep /dev/mmcblk0" and tell me what you see [08:25] Is there a way to configure apt to use tls1.2? [08:31] Yuval, i think that choice depends on the target? [08:32] EriC^^: you are so nice.Thanks very much. [08:32] 😉 [08:32] dzipc_: no problem :) [08:34] Oerheks, I think you are right. Does gpg files contain tls information? Does it have any configuration? I am looking at way to check old linuxes to see if they have tls security problems [08:36] openssl ciphers -v 'TLSv1.2' | head -4 # this line will tell [08:37] oerheks thanks [08:44] hello there, which is the best channel to help me with a shell script? [08:44] EriC^^: I reinstalled grub from under the system I want to boot, and it worked. Thank you for your help. [08:44] channel == IRC channel [08:44] #bash? [08:44] tmch2, ok thx :) [08:44] np [08:45] :) [08:45] lol [08:45] such a quick answer === gast is now known as zeddacus [08:55] hi there [08:56] the gnome message tray, there is an "clear all" button there, what would be the commandline version of that ? ( clear all messages from gnome message tray ) [08:56] on ubuntu 18.04 LTS === bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan [09:06] Hey, for some reason I need to sudo everytime I want to write a file on this mounted drive [/dev/xvdf1 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,stripe=32753,data=ordered)] any idea why? [09:08] well, only on the root of the drive [09:14] viran, I suppose you mounted that by hand, instead if it being auto-mounted? [09:15] yes [09:15] viran, that's why then. If you had to sudo to mount, the permissions were likely set based on that. [09:16] Can I controll that without auto mount? [09:17] viran, Well... you could chmod if you wanted to. While I am sure there is some elegant way to manage this, I don't even bother. fatab *may* be an alternative if it's a regularly mounted device. [09:17] s/fatab/fstab [09:17] Thanks [09:17] viran, You are welcome. [09:18] viran, if you have a lot of work to do with the root section, `sudo su -` may be of use to you, only remember that you are root [09:23] no use `sudo -i` [09:24] no need to use su with sudo [09:25] now is the time to change PS1 prompt to red when you are root [09:27] like root@titan:~# if you have the "standard" color set [09:37] https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/98534/116970 [09:40] viran: you can do chmod +rwx /mountpoint [09:41] then everyone can write to the root dir of the filesystem [09:51] did you know browsh ? kind of funny hack for geek: https://www.brow.sh/ [09:53] but it kinds hurt the eyes to see pixelated images or videos === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [09:58] what is kernel livepatch for ? because I still got update for linux-* package with apt update/upgrade. security update ? [09:59] you dont need to reboot immediately this way. [10:00] livepatches become effective immediately, kernel package updates on reboot [10:01] tomreyn: is there a way to know that a livepatch has been applied ? [10:01] but livepatches can't cover everything, so yuo still want the full patches. [10:01] yes, i just forgot which ;) [10:01] tomreyn: no problem [10:03] solsTiCe: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html [10:03] `canonical-livepatch status --verbose` may be [10:05] well. I was about to remove it but I will keep it given i never reboot my laptop 🤓 [10:06] well, you should reboot it. [10:11] well. I better make it sleep instead of letting it on all the time. first. then. reboot more frequently. like once a week [10:11] while canonicals' implementation differs from this, limitations should be similar https://github.com/dynup/kpatch#limitations [10:12] tomreyn: ubuntu livepatch use upstream kernel live patching not kpatch https://lwn.net/Articles/619390/ from dustin blog above [10:13] right, differnet implementation [10:13] it is suprising from ubuntu to use something upstram :-) [10:14] "It represents the greatest common functionality set between kpatch [1] and kGraft [2]" [10:14] well I guess you can go to /sys/kernel/livepatch to see if any patch is applied [11:09] Where can you create a new phone number to receive SMS messages in ubuntu ? [11:10] hi, i'm trying to build a custom ubuntu live install image. i'm using live-build and wish to include all packages so i have a large, all-in-one offline install image similar to centos's 'everything' iso. i remember there used to be a '--package-lists' option in live build, where you could select minimal, standard and so on. that option seems to be gone nowadays though? [11:10] jeremies, not, just hook up your phone, install some software, and send it over the usb cable [11:12] why does ubuntu 16.04 only ship openvpn 2.3.10 ? a binary which is over a year old and not even officially supported by OpenVPN Inc. [11:12] xaero, if that was UCK, that project is dead [11:12] there is Cubic, https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image [11:12] !uck [11:12] uck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/ [11:12] oerheks: I'm using live-build from debian [11:12] which works (or used to?) for ubuntu too [11:12] xaero, ah, ask in #debian then [11:12] since it has a --mode ubuntu option in there [11:12] is cubic what is used for generating ubuntu images? [11:12] if so, i'll use that instead [11:13] cubic works, but it can take some time to build [11:14] ok thanks, i'll take a look at that :) [11:16] why does ubuntu 16.04 only ship openvpn 2.3.10 ? a binary which is over a year old and not even officially supported by OpenVPN Inc. [11:18] hi [11:18] segwent, no idea there, not sure 2.3.10-1ubuntu2.1 got backported fixes [11:18] !sru [11:18] Stable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [11:19] if you need a newer version, file a SRU [11:19] 1604 shipped with a defective networkmanager/wpasupplicant combo [11:20] many people files an sru over that, nothing happened [11:21] oerheks: i can (and do) install from the openvpn repo .. but i am very surprised that ubuntu 16.04 LTS are not *at least* upto version 2.4.x [11:21] !latest | segwent [11:22] segwent: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [11:23] I still do not believe that is justification to not be shipping 2.4.x [11:23] it is [11:23] i disagree [11:23]