 @popescu_sorin, Thanks! I can get Inkscape to run (it keeps opening Inkscape windows until it crashes) and libreoffice refuses to open.
 I’ll check out the other apps though
 @AlexanderPlaza, So figured out for Inkscape it’s opening a separate window for the tool tips. That’s why it seems like it’s opening more and more copies.
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 I guess I missed something about OTA4, OTA4 will still be xenial but it won't be mandatory? devices won't be notified about it?
 @mattbel10, Camera app works fine for me.
 @Javacookies, yep
 okay I see... so manual flashing would be the way to OTA 4?
 @Javacookies, Either the installer, system-image-cli, or switching to RC and back to Stable using update options
 Whys is it not mandatory?
 [Edit] Why is it not mandatory?
 I think the answer was in QA? Lets test my listening skills...
 Because oxide browser is not polished or even working reliably
 Speaking of the browser, anyone else having 2 windows open when they launch the browser?
 @Photojoe4, Me too
 Not really a functional issue, just weird...
 Quirky 😁
 U have to uncheck "restore previous session" in setting
 Ah! Thanks!
 @Photojoe4, Htop is in the open store
 I was able to get it working in terminal, just had to make drive writeable...
 It wouldn't open when I tried installing from the open store
 @mattbel10, I am 2018-07-12, and camera works for me. Maybe a regression in latest devel. I'll hold off updating for a while.
 Anyone here Apple mac user?
 @thre4dinf0, Hello friend
 https://t.me/EOSbountyBOT?ref2736272
 @LOTNSAI, Are you having problems with instalation?
 @dubl_inc, @wayneoutthere @UniversalSuperBox @vanyasem sorry if I woke any of you
 @dubl_inc, Do not spam offtopic ads or pyramid games here plz, or you will get kicked.
 No game I need a apple Icloud account  … I am not mac user or apple user so
 Any telegram app update @Flohack
 @Photojoe4, Yes that's explained in the openstore
 Thank you @Electro_capibara and @TomasOqvist for the check. Actually, I realized that somehow the culprit was the Anbox installation: I got one positive consequence, i.e. automagically the AP wi-fi was  kicked-in at every boot of the phone, a problem with which I'm struggling a lot but three negative issues, i.e. the camera and GP
[10:06] <ubptgbot> S stopped working and, what was very scary to me, apparently I lost the IMEI number 😱
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Dh9Y0iFP.png screenshot of my pro5 after Anbox installation
 I tried switching over the channels passing from devel to RC image and my IMEI number was back again, but of course with Anbox gone, wiped away by the image overwriting, leaving though the Android apps icons in the Apps scope but not working anymore
 @JavierPuche, I found a old source code of dekko but i dont have manage yet to get it compiled into a click.
 @mattbel10, Wow glad to hear that
 Could you please report it on github?
 Thats a huge deal
 @Xray2000, If you have the necessary skills I think it's better to help Dekko2 current development thant trying to run "old code" :) … https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko
 @advocatux, For me it's not clear yet how the code is build up advocatux, otherway i already have done that....
 Yes, I see. Probably Dan will have more time to improve the wiki after xenial is released … https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/wikis/home
 @advocatux, I htink that's a bit harsh. If the dekko code works (which it does for me) and the dekko2 code doesn't (it doesn't for me either) it seems reasonable to /try/ building the dekko code. Of course, if it turns out to need significant work...
 @alan_griffiths, Sorry, I don't want to sound harsh. English is not my first language 😅
 Yes probably ... It's alway not easy to start and working on a app the person dont started i mean step into some thing that exits...
 The resion i try this to have fast something for now till Dan is ready, as now we have only gmail as a webapp or something else as a webapp for email....
 Yeah, and again sorry if I sounded rude or something like that. I meant to say, once you have to do some work and put some effort, it's better to work for the future and not for the past :)
 [Edit] Yeah, and again sorry if I sounded rude or something like that. I meant to say, once you have to do some work and put some effort, it's better to work for the future than work for the past :)
 @advocatux, Don't worry, you didn't sound rude. Just against even trying to use the past.
 @alan_griffiths, Alain, you manage to compile it ?
 @alan_griffiths, [Edit] Alain, you manage to compile it ? i mean to a clickable for 16.04
 @Xray2000, haven't tried. I just have it installed since before Canonical bailed on us.
 Oh so you have the orginal code then ?
 @alan_griffiths Oh, of course anyone can do anything they want with the source code. Besides, at my age, I have more past than future, so I understand people entertaining themselves with the past 😂
 I also have it on my phone, can we build  click from an installed app?
 nevermind, it has to compiled on xenial LOL
 @Javacookies, I don't know enough about clicks to know how. But probably. … But I agree, unlikely to work on 16.04 without additional work.
 @malditobastardo, @malditobastardo I don't know if it's only my phone or it could potentially affect other people, since my pro5 showed a not common behaviour up to now. What I heard is that installing Anbox will let step in issues with to normal OS behaviour, i.e. the cellular connectivity, but I found out other issues. If
[11:34] <ubptgbot> you guys think my experience is any worth documenting it, I'm totally keen to report a ticket on GH
 @malditobastardo, [Edit] @malditobastardo I don't know if it's only my phone or it could potentially affect other people, since my pro5 showed a not common behaviour up to now. What I heard is that installing Anbox will let step in issues with the normal OS behaviour, i.e. the cellular connectivity, but I found out other iss
[11:35] <ubptgbot> ues. If you guys think my experience is any worth documenting it, I'm totally keen to report a ticket on GH
 Atleast update browser next
 @mattbel10, Please do
 The pro5 is an official supported device
 What hapoened to you is very critical
 @malditobastardo, ooook 👍
 @John_athan, I can't surf heavy sized websites
 @advocatux, 👍
 @John_athan, Seriously. You've been warned multiple times. Please stop making these sorts of demanding, contactless, short, and useless statements
 @dohbee, You mother fucker mind your own busines if u guts try to rectify it
 Yes, this wont be tolerated any longer. When you have contributed constructively as helping member of community, or if you share your opinion in a meaningful way, your voice will be heard. This style....
 He started it
 I am out bye
 Correct. You are out.
 For context since some posts were deleted, someone was very demanding, and then started using ugly language, and they were blocked.  Thanks.
 How tiresome. Sad to see someone burn bridges with this great community.
 Well, its human to get upset, etc, but we have to communicate constructively throughout. The good thing is @dohbee and I agree on everything so its easy....
 One must avoid discussing ones mother negatively. :-0
 I agree with this
 @wayneoutthere, you deleted it before i even got a chance to read it though. :-/
 Yes, where's the bi-temopral history feature for telegram?
 @alan_griffiths, only available for admins
[13:35] <ubptgbot> Leonid Petrov was added by: Leonid Petrov
[13:35] <ubptgbot> <Leonid Petrov> Good afternoon. Have you heard about KaiOS? This is a new OS for simple push-button phones, it will soon be available WhatsApp, Facebook, Google Apps. Read more: … t.me/kaios1
 yes, it's been mentioned before, and beyond that there's no reason to mention it further in here. we aren't going to stop making UT becuase someone else decided to start yet another phone OS for a specific subset of use cases
 Oh, that channel again. Spam.
 Ara- I mean Ki- I mean John has also been removed from the group for harassment of group admins and members
 @wayneoutthere, 👏👏congratulations guys for your good work, great product and awesome community 👍
 @malditobastardo i filed the issue here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/774 thank you Maldito. Matteo
 @JavierPuche, Thanks, @JavierPuche  We believe firmly in keeping a healthy community.  That doesn't mean we have to agree.  Disagreements lead to better relationships sometimes.  But, there are also people here who don't like violent, sexual, insulting, destructive, and hurtful communications.  So, in respect of those pe
[16:54] <ubptgbot> ople we do have to draw lines.  Thanks to all of you, by the way, for being so excellent at building relationships so far.  It will be excellent when we all start doing more local meetups too one day.
 (Photo, 560x486) https://irc.ubports.com/i4H6zRGi.png Github is having more and more issues ;)
 @Flohack, your fonts are messed up
 (Photo, 856x723) https://irc.ubports.com/tcmAfgun.png
 Ask my browser, not me. Never looked different
 I had that problem for a few minutes on the Vivid browser, but it's working again now.
 Github's being weird. status.github.com
 Jenkins just failed a build because the API threw a "File not found" error.
 It's Microsoft fault - this should never have happened … (Just kidding)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 @mattbel10, Thank you Matteo!
 Matteo's description of the WiFI password storage problem matches mine on Vivid, so I will be following this issue with great interest.
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:34] <Tofe> Hi
[18:34] <Tofe> Is it just me, or has https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/ become unresponsive? (error 503 for more than a week now)
 It's gone
 @Tofe, it no longer exists. canonical has removed it
[18:36] <Tofe> That's... unfortunate, given Halium-5.1 still points to it is seems
 @TartanSpartan, that happens to me too with Hammerhead on Xenial
 @malditobastardo, I thought I was the only one.....😓
 To all the new people here, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get your UT journey started
 @UniversalSuperBox, Well it's a good thing it has the support now of microsoft.
 @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] Well it's a good thing it has the support of microsoft now.
 please stop with the anti-ms sarcasm.
 I thought it was funny
 it was funny the first thousand times
 @dohbee, I wouldn't say it's sarcasm. It's means they can put more infrastructure support into it as time moves forward and those site problems would deminish.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/VaT8NCAx.mp4
 github doesn't have such problems any more than any other services really, and microsoft doesn't have them any less.
 @dohbee, Well if memory doesn't serve me wrong, they haven't had any data loss like gitlab did last year. Although in gitlabs defence they did an excellent postmortem and was great at being open about their steps and what they learned from it.
 If I was looking at buying a wireless dongle to use my phone with a larger screen, what version or rather protocol should I be looking for?  … Miracast? Miraclecast?
 @AlexanderPlaza, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DisplayCasting
 @dohbee, Uhh, so I can only use a Meizu MX Pro 5?
 i don't know if other devices work with it or not. It requires certain configuration in wifi
 it was developed because the Pro 5 doesn't have any other way to do external display
 Or a Nexus with slimport for a wire-full display
 so all the original testing was for the pro 5
 (instead of wire-less)
 i think it should work on other devices too though
 @Gorsh2, Yeah just trying to find a good cable...
 but it won't work on all other devices
 Mmm, on that document it recommends the Microsoft Wireless display v2...
 mm, the v1 iirc
 is what all the testing was done on
 (Photo, 626x381) https://irc.ubports.com/XftVRFmL.png
 yes, i think it was added recently
 (it is a wiki after all)
 Mmm well I've put in an order for Microsoft Wireless Display dongle v2. We'll see if it works with  Nexus 5
 One thing I can add though, Legitech K380 works amazingly well with Nexus 5. Even the media keys are working. Only one that doesn't seem to work is the undo button (set up as a fn key)
 https://forums.ubports.com/topic/444/nexus-5-widi-wireless-display
 i guess it will need some work still to be made to work
 UBport OS, huh?
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 That Microsoft product works great for the Pro 5, Rogue. But use the aethercastctl command in a shell, the GUI from setings didn't seem up to the task. I think I tried it with my M10 too but couldn't get it to work. That didn't feel like much of a problem though because I also have a micro HDMI cable and whenever possible I pr
[21:56] <ubptgbot> efer to use cables rather than a wireless link. But of course wireless is the only option with the Pro 5 and feels fine with it.
 The Nexus 5 does, of course, have the wired Slimport option
 n5 has the hardware support to do miracast afaik, too
 It does, but the Broadcom drivers might be finnicky. It's not something that anyone has put a lot of love into.
 :/
 yep