| timur_ | Hello | 00:50 |
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| timur_ | I have a question. | 00:54 |
| timur_ | Предложить исправление | 00:54 |
| timur_ | Will the normal locale kde-l10n-eo be restored in the repositories? | 00:55 |
| timur_ | Yes, I know that she is in the repository again. But earlier the esperanto-locale was more complete. | 00:57 |
| qwebirc85912 | Group permissions do not work in terminal emulators and file manager. What might be the cause? | 03:53 |
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| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 11:04 |
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| olienootje5 | I am a bit uncertain, the iso has AMD in it's name, does that also work for Intelbased systems? | 11:31 |
| olienootje5 | I ordered a notebook where I want to run Kubuntu, like on my Desktop. | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj | olienootje5, yes it works on intel and amd | 11:33 |
| Dragnslcr | Yeah, the 64-bit version of both Intel and AMD processors are called "amd64" | 11:35 |
| olienootje5 | Thanks you, I will download the ISO now, Tomorrow the notebook arrives. I work with Kubuntu for over 14 years now an usually build my own PC with AMD, never had to think about that. | 11:35 |
| olienootje5 | Bye and thnaks again. | 11:37 |
| crmlt | why baloorunner sometimes eats all 8GB's of my ram and then keeps swapping and my systems becomes totally unresponsive? what could be wrong? | 12:03 |
| zxq9 | crmlt: I had a problem like that years ago. There was some problem with baloo endlessly trying to open too much stuff to index it all at once (I had a ton of files). | 12:06 |
| zxq9 | But... I haven't seen that for a long time. Not sure why it got better, exactly. Probably someone else has more current knowledge. | 12:07 |
| crmlt | same thign happen when I run augustin@kubuntu:~$ baloosearch test | 12:08 |
| crmlt | Killed | 12:08 |
| crmlt | well i have almost no data | 12:08 |
| zxq9 | How old is your install? | 12:08 |
| BluesKaj | crmlt, which kubuntu? | 12:08 |
| crmlt | only 13GBs used | 12:08 |
| zxq9 | Older KDE version? | 12:09 |
| crmlt | 18.04 | 12:09 |
| crmlt | nope | 12:09 |
| zxq9 | :-/ | 12:10 |
| crmlt | Can I somehow restore baloo's config files and wipe the index db? | 12:11 |
| BluesKaj | crmlt, do you need file search, if not it can be disabled in systemsettings>search | 12:12 |
| crmlt | BluesKaj: well i can live with out it but i'd like rather have it | 12:12 |
| crmlt | but currently it doesn't even work... | 12:13 |
| crmlt | something gone wrong today... | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | depends, is this a production system, on the job etc, or are you a home users? | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | user | 12:14 |
| crmlt | I index only my home which has only 66 files | 12:14 |
| crmlt | well i create webpages, scripts some graphihcs etc. it's my workstation | 12:15 |
| crmlt | so the search is sometimes really useful | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | ok, but if the search is interfering with your workflow then, best to disable it and make a list of important file paths, until the bug is fixed | 12:17 |
| crmlt | what exatly baloorunner does? | 12:17 |
| crmlt | i've just disabled file search via systemsettings and then baloorunner started and was eating all my ram again | 12:18 |
| BluesKaj | it shouldn't index all your files everytime you boot , only the ones that have changed afaik | 12:18 |
| BluesKaj | think a reboot is necessary | 12:19 |
| zxq9 | Permissions on the db file? (or something similar and weird?) | 12:19 |
| crmlt | could be something like this | 12:20 |
| zxq9 | My problem was the initial indexing was just a tremendous load -- before Baloo had any throttling. | 12:20 |
| zxq9 | These days it just zips through and I don't have any issue. And once in a blue moon I actually wind up searching and think to myself "whoa! That actually is kinda handy!" | 12:20 |
| crmlt | i think this started when I unticked the expand search option... in app launcher settings | 12:20 |
| crmlt | may ssystem then got completely freezed and I had to do hard shutdown | 12:21 |
| zxq9 | Hm. Maybe that forced a reindex. | 12:21 |
| zxq9 | Like a full vacuum of the DB or some other operation that was unexpectedly resource heavy. | 12:22 |
| crmlt | yeah i think so | 12:22 |
| crmlt | but then I excluded everethyn except my home | 12:22 |
| crmlt | which has only 1,6 gigs | 12:23 |
| crmlt | so it should index it quickly | 12:23 |
| crmlt | but somethings is corrupted | 12:23 |
| zxq9 | I'm not familiar enough with Baloo to know much about what settings it has. When it caused a problem I turned it off. Now it doesn't cause a problem so it does whatever it does. But I do know a bit about databases, and it might be overloading some enormous in-memory sorts or something if you have tons of tiny files. | 12:24 |
| crmlt | the baloo just eat all my ram and then crash | 12:24 |
| zxq9 | Try killing Baloo, deleting its cache and DB files, resetting it to defaults, and having another go. | 12:24 |
| zxq9 | If that works, kill everything again and wipe its DBs, then try again with the settings you want (expanded search or whatever). | 12:25 |
| crmlt | zxq9: ok but my i've isntalled kubuntu yesterday a do not have any personal data | 12:25 |
| crmlt | only needed . files like in .config etc. | 12:26 |
| zxq9 | Usually accumulating and committing the data initially isn't such an intensive operation (for your disk, but not in memory). But reworking the indexes might be. | 12:26 |
| zxq9 | Your 1.6GB of data in $HOME has lots of little files, or a few big files? | 12:26 |
| crmlt | zxq9: thats what i'd like to do but i don't have idea where its files are... | 12:27 |
| crmlt | 23801 files total | 12:27 |
| zxq9 | http://www.odi.ch/weblog/posting.php?posting=702 | 12:27 |
| crmlt | but these are neccesary for web broswers caches etc. ... | 12:28 |
| zxq9 | ~/.local/share/baloo/ | 12:28 |
| crmlt | i see | 12:28 |
| zxq9 | I think it indexes your email, too. | 12:28 |
| zxq9 | If it can get at it, anyway. | 12:28 |
| crmlt | i do not desktop mail client | 12:29 |
| crmlt | :-) | 12:29 |
| crmlt | the system is almost completely clean | 12:29 |
| crmlt | o do not use* | 12:29 |
| zxq9 | Hah. Yeah, my ~/.local/share/baloo/index is almost 1GB by itself. | 12:29 |
| crmlt | my was onyl 1MB | 12:30 |
| crmlt | what about .config/baloofilerc | 12:30 |
| zxq9 | I have a ton of small files. | 12:30 |
| crmlt | there is first run=false | 12:30 |
| zxq9 | Hm. I don't know about the config one. | 12:30 |
| crmlt | no | 12:30 |
| crmlt | first run=false | 12:30 |
| crmlt | ops | 12:30 |
| crmlt | i mean it was true | 12:30 |
| zxq9 | IIRC Baloo just fixed everything it was missing and I don't think I touched any config stuff. | 12:30 |
| crmlt | should be false shouldn't be? | 12:30 |
| * crmlt going to reboot | 12:32 | |
| * crmlt brb | 12:32 | |
| crmlt | augustin@kubuntu:~$ balooctl check | 12:34 |
| crmlt | Started search for unindexed files | 12:34 |
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| crmlt | seems it's working now | 12:37 |
| crmlt | augustin@kubuntu:~$ baloosearch test | 12:37 |
| crmlt | /home/augustin/hosts/ci/test.sh | 12:37 |
| crmlt | Elapsed: 0.290704 msecs | 12:37 |
| crmlt | no crash | 12:38 |
| crmlt | no hang | 12:38 |
| crmlt | something was messed with db | 12:38 |
| BluesKaj | do you run sudo updatedb periodically crmlt? | 12:43 |
| crmlt | whats the purpose of that? | 12:47 |
| crmlt | i haven't used it yet | 12:47 |
| zxq9 | updatedb updates system-wide filename search for the `locate` utility. | 12:48 |
| crmlt | i see | 12:49 |
| zxq9 | Should also update once every so often as a cron job (I think once a day, but that might not be true anymore). | 12:49 |
| zxq9 | I don't recall if it is installed by default. | 12:50 |
| crmlt | something went wrong when i unchecked thhe expand search option... | 12:53 |
| crmlt | probably it corrupted the db | 12:54 |
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| BluesKaj | crmlt, updatedb updates the mlocatedb or database after autoremove autoclean and packages upgrades and installs..it can be set up as a cronjob too | 13:20 |
| crmlt | BluesKaj: thanks | 13:24 |
| rgvon | Please suggest a time-tracking app where I can manually add entries.I tried Time Log but it only tracks the time spent on computer. | 13:40 |
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| stephankusc | good morning, beginner, following a guide that says to edit my vimrc file, cannot find it, i am using ubuntu 18.04 | 15:01 |
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| diogenes_ | stephankusc, if you don't have it, make it | 15:02 |
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| genii | The file is normally hidden from the file browser since it's prefaced with a period | 15:07 |
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| thatfossguy | Hey, anyone know what plasma version is available for kubuntu right now? | 20:37 |
| thatfossguy | I'm not on kubuntu atm so I can't check | 20:37 |
| niccagenick | Yeah, 5.12.6 | 20:38 |
| niccagenick | In my kubuntu | 20:38 |
| thatfossguy | oh, ok.. thanks | 20:38 |
| niccagenick | For nothing | 20:39 |
| thatfossguy | :P | 20:39 |
| niccagenick | I'm waiting the 5.13 plasma like kde plasma neon... Thats very very better.. But now it's that version I think | 20:40 |
| thatfossguy | I'm downloading neon right now. Would prefer 5.13.x on kubuntu tbo, but yeah, neon it is. | 20:42 |
| genii | You can also check by way of the bot here any package's version with the !info packagename distversion | 20:42 |
| genii | !info plasma-framework cosmic | 20:43 |
| ubottu | plasma-framework (source: plasma-framework): Plasma Runtime components. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.47.0-0ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 3502 kB, installed size 6934 kB | 20:43 |
| thatfossguy | hum, what's with that version number? | 20:45 |
| genii | That's the framework version | 20:46 |
| genii | !info plasma-desktop | 20:46 |
| ubottu | plasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.12.6-0ubuntu0.1 (bionic), package size 1885 kB, installed size 9626 kB | 20:46 |
| niccagenick | 5.47? | 20:46 |
| genii | For the framework, yes. As !info plasma-desktop shows though, plasma version itself is 5.12 | 20:46 |
| niccagenick | Oh got it! | 20:47 |
| niccagenick | Anyone knows if kubuntu will upgrade the system to 5.13 or it is exclusive for KDE neon? Any data or something? | 20:49 |
| niccagenick | Is it* | 20:50 |
| IrcsomeBot3 | <TaurohtaRR> @niccagenick, 18.04 will stick with LTS version of KDE that currently is 5.12 | 21:01 |
| IrcsomeBot3 | <TaurohtaRR> 18.10 most probably will be with 5.13 | 21:01 |
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