[00:50] <timur_> Hello
[00:54] <timur_> I have a question.
[00:54] <timur_> Предложить исправление
[00:55] <timur_> Will the normal locale kde-l10n-eo be restored in the repositories?
[00:57] <timur_> Yes, I know that she is in the repository again. But earlier the esperanto-locale was more complete.
[03:53] <qwebirc85912> Group permissions do not work in terminal emulators and file manager. What might be the cause?
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:31] <olienootje5> I am a bit uncertain, the iso has AMD in it's name, does that also work for Intelbased systems?
[11:32] <olienootje5> I ordered a notebook where I want to run Kubuntu, like on my Desktop.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> olienootje5, yes it works on intel and amd
[11:35] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, the 64-bit version of both Intel and AMD processors are called "amd64"
[11:35] <olienootje5> Thanks you, I will download the ISO now, Tomorrow the notebook arrives. I work with Kubuntu for over 14 years now an usually build my own PC with AMD, never had to think about that.
[11:37] <olienootje5> Bye and thnaks again.
[12:03] <crmlt> why baloorunner sometimes eats all 8GB's of my ram and then keeps swapping and my systems becomes totally unresponsive? what could be wrong?
[12:06] <zxq9> crmlt: I had a problem like that years ago. There was some problem with baloo endlessly trying to open too much stuff to index it all at once (I had a ton of files).
[12:07] <zxq9> But... I haven't seen that for a long time. Not sure why it got better, exactly. Probably someone else has more current knowledge.
[12:08] <crmlt> same thign happen when I run augustin@kubuntu:~$ baloosearch test
[12:08] <crmlt> Killed
[12:08] <crmlt> well i  have almost no data
[12:08] <zxq9> How old is your install?
[12:08] <BluesKaj> crmlt, which kubuntu?
[12:08] <crmlt> only 13GBs used
[12:09] <zxq9> Older KDE version?
[12:09] <crmlt> 18.04
[12:09] <crmlt> nope
[12:10] <zxq9> :-/
[12:11] <crmlt> Can I somehow restore baloo's config files and wipe the index db?
[12:12] <BluesKaj> crmlt, do you need file search, if not it can be disabled in systemsettings>search
[12:12] <crmlt> BluesKaj: well i can live with out it but i'd like rather have it
[12:13] <crmlt> but currently it doesn't even work...
[12:13] <crmlt> something gone wrong today...
[12:14] <BluesKaj> depends, is this a production system, on the job etc, or are you a home users?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> user
[12:14] <crmlt> I index only my home which has only 66 files
[12:15] <crmlt> well i create webpages, scripts some graphihcs etc. it's my workstation
[12:15] <crmlt> so the search is sometimes really useful
[12:17] <BluesKaj> ok, but if the search is interfering with your workflow then, best to disable it and make a list of important file paths, until the bug is fixed
[12:17] <crmlt> what exatly baloorunner does?
[12:18] <crmlt> i've just disabled file search via systemsettings and then baloorunner started and was eating all my ram again
[12:18] <BluesKaj> it shouldn't index all your files everytime you boot , only the ones that have changed afaik
[12:19] <BluesKaj> think a reboot is necessary
[12:19] <zxq9> Permissions on the db file? (or something similar and weird?)
[12:20] <crmlt> could be something like this
[12:20] <zxq9> My problem was the initial indexing was just a tremendous load -- before Baloo had any throttling.
[12:20] <zxq9> These days it just zips through and I don't have any issue. And once in a blue moon I actually wind up searching and think to myself "whoa! That actually is kinda handy!"
[12:20] <crmlt> i think this started when I unticked the expand search option... in app launcher settings
[12:21] <crmlt> may ssystem then got completely freezed and I had to do hard shutdown
[12:21] <zxq9> Hm. Maybe that forced a reindex.
[12:22] <zxq9> Like a full vacuum of the DB or some other operation that was unexpectedly resource heavy.
[12:22] <crmlt> yeah i think so
[12:22] <crmlt> but then I excluded everethyn except my home
[12:23] <crmlt> which has only 1,6 gigs
[12:23] <crmlt> so it should index it quickly
[12:23] <crmlt> but somethings is corrupted
[12:24] <zxq9> I'm not familiar enough with Baloo to know much about what settings it has. When it caused a problem I turned it off. Now it doesn't cause a problem so it does whatever it does. But I do know a bit about databases, and it might be overloading some enormous in-memory sorts or something if you have tons of tiny files.
[12:24] <crmlt> the baloo just eat all my ram and then crash
[12:24] <zxq9> Try killing Baloo, deleting its cache and DB files, resetting it to defaults, and having another go.
[12:25] <zxq9> If that works, kill everything again and wipe its DBs, then try again with the settings you want (expanded search or whatever).
[12:25] <crmlt> zxq9: ok but my i've isntalled kubuntu yesterday a do not have any personal data
[12:26] <crmlt> only needed . files like in .config etc.
[12:26] <zxq9> Usually accumulating and committing the data initially isn't such an intensive operation (for your disk, but not in memory). But reworking the indexes might be.
[12:26] <zxq9> Your 1.6GB of data in $HOME has lots of little files, or a few big files?
[12:27] <crmlt> zxq9: thats what i'd like to do but i don't have idea where its files are...
[12:27] <crmlt> 23801 files total
[12:27] <zxq9> http://www.odi.ch/weblog/posting.php?posting=702
[12:28] <crmlt> but these are neccesary for web broswers caches etc. ...
[12:28] <zxq9> ~/.local/share/baloo/
[12:28] <crmlt> i see
[12:28] <zxq9> I think it indexes your email, too.
[12:28] <zxq9> If it can get at it, anyway.
[12:29] <crmlt> i do not desktop mail client
[12:29] <crmlt> :-)
[12:29] <crmlt> the system is almost completely clean
[12:29] <crmlt> o do not use*
[12:29] <zxq9> Hah. Yeah, my ~/.local/share/baloo/index is almost 1GB by itself.
[12:30] <crmlt> my was onyl 1MB
[12:30] <crmlt> what about .config/baloofilerc
[12:30] <zxq9> I have a ton of small files.
[12:30] <crmlt> there is first run=false
[12:30] <zxq9> Hm. I don't know about the config one.
[12:30] <crmlt> no
[12:30] <crmlt> first run=false
[12:30] <crmlt> ops
[12:30] <crmlt> i mean it was true
[12:30] <zxq9> IIRC Baloo just fixed everything it was missing and I don't think I touched any config stuff.
[12:30] <crmlt> should be false shouldn't be?
[12:32]  * crmlt going to reboot
[12:32]  * crmlt brb
[12:34] <crmlt> augustin@kubuntu:~$ balooctl check
[12:34] <crmlt> Started search for unindexed files
[12:37] <crmlt> seems it's working now
[12:37] <crmlt> augustin@kubuntu:~$ baloosearch test
[12:37] <crmlt> /home/augustin/hosts/ci/test.sh
[12:37] <crmlt> Elapsed: 0.290704 msecs
[12:38] <crmlt> no crash
[12:38] <crmlt> no hang
[12:38] <crmlt> something was messed with db
[12:43] <BluesKaj> do you run sudo updatedb periodically crmlt?
[12:47] <crmlt> whats the purpose of that?
[12:47] <crmlt> i haven't used it yet
[12:48] <zxq9> updatedb updates system-wide filename search for the `locate` utility.
[12:49] <crmlt> i see
[12:49] <zxq9> Should also update once every so often as a cron job (I think once a day, but that might not be true anymore).
[12:50] <zxq9> I don't recall if it is installed by default.
[12:53] <crmlt> something went wrong when i unchecked thhe expand search option...
[12:54] <crmlt> probably it corrupted the db
[13:20] <BluesKaj> crmlt, updatedb updates the mlocatedb or database after autoremove autoclean and packages upgrades and installs..it can be set up as a cronjob too
[13:24] <crmlt> BluesKaj: thanks
[13:40] <rgvon> Please suggest a time-tracking app where I can manually add entries.I tried Time Log but it only tracks the time spent on computer.
[15:01] <stephankusc> good morning, beginner, following a guide that says to edit my vimrc file, cannot find it, i am using ubuntu 18.04
[15:02] <diogenes_> stephankusc, if you don't have it, make it
[15:07] <genii> The file is normally hidden from the file browser since it's prefaced with a period
[20:37] <thatfossguy> Hey, anyone know what plasma version is available for kubuntu right now?
[20:37] <thatfossguy> I'm not on kubuntu atm so I can't check
[20:38] <niccagenick> Yeah, 5.12.6
[20:38] <niccagenick> In my kubuntu
[20:38] <thatfossguy> oh, ok.. thanks
[20:39] <niccagenick> For nothing
[20:39] <thatfossguy> :P
[20:40] <niccagenick> I'm waiting the 5.13 plasma like kde plasma neon... Thats very very better.. But now it's that version I think
[20:42] <thatfossguy> I'm downloading neon right now. Would prefer 5.13.x on kubuntu tbo, but yeah, neon it is.
[20:42] <genii> You can also check by way of the bot here any package's version with the !info packagename distversion
[20:43] <genii> !info plasma-framework cosmic
[20:45] <thatfossguy> hum, what's with that version number?
[20:46] <genii> That's the framework version
[20:46] <genii> !info plasma-desktop
[20:46] <niccagenick> 5.47?
[20:46] <genii> For the framework, yes. As !info plasma-desktop shows though, plasma version itself is 5.12
[20:47] <niccagenick> Oh got it!
[20:49] <niccagenick> Anyone knows if kubuntu will upgrade the system to 5.13 or it is exclusive for KDE neon? Any data or something?
[20:50] <niccagenick> Is it*
 @niccagenick, 18.04 will stick with LTS version of KDE that currently is 5.12
 18.10 most probably will be with 5.13