[00:00] <qwebirc12365> i tried to do touch command on it it said. only read. is the the end of the road for me?
[00:00] <guiverc> qwebirc12365, no; you may have told it to read ro? however if you tell it to mount rw, you'll get errors telling you the reason why it can't - this is the confirmation (which usually means windoze hasn't cleanly closed the partition; Ubuntu just mounts ro to be safe to prevent potential data loss due windoze having part of fs in cache-memory written to disk (hibernate))
[00:02] <qwebirc12365> how do i mount read and write?
[00:04] <tomreyn> qwebirc12365: run ntfsfix against the file system, then try to mount it the same way you did now.
[00:04] <guiverc> qwebirc12365, with `mount` command, or if you'll do regularly I'd suggest using `fstab` (file system table) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions  (looking for more)
[00:04] <guiverc> thanks Tom; hadn't even considered errors :)
[00:19] <dunnousernamefn> Huh, I'm getting bus errors and segfaults because sometimes this library accesses a struct at addresses like -3943701719187754833 . weird
[00:27] <firefox1337> is sandybridge mobile intel graphics driver bad?
[00:27] <blackflow> dunnousernamefn: someone used int instead of uint (or even better uintptr_t) for pointers
[00:27] <gogeta> firefox1337: it should be just fine
[00:27] <dunnousernamefn> No, that's just me using %lld in printf instead of gdb
[00:27] <firefox1337> when i use blender my screen flashes black really quick.
[00:27] <gogeta> firefox1337: thats ne thing intel gets corect with there gpu
[00:28] <dunnousernamefn> Now, the segfaulting code is apparently an if (x != 0) statement
[00:28] <gogeta> firefox1337: sounds like some sort of glitch with the wm
[00:28] <dunnousernamefn> not even a dereference
[00:28] <firefox1337> wm?
[00:28] <dunnousernamefn> valgrind says it's on the zeroth line
[01:02] <aidrocsid> Can I let Ubuntu install programs into a second partition rather than changing the size of the partition I have it installed in?
[01:03] <aidrocsid> Or like move my swap file or something
[01:04] <guiverc> aidrocsid, you can have software install elsewhere, but it can be a bit of work.  software installed from tarballs is easy (as you control where), but `apt` installs to directories, so you'll have to move the directories elsewhere, so moving swap or specific data is usually easier if you use default repos as recommended
[01:06] <guiverc> aidrocsid, if you split library directories to different (non-std) locations; you'll need to add the new directory to the ld_library_path etc...
[01:08] <aidrocsid> Ugh I only left myself 20gb in my emergency Ubuntu install and it's pretty much full lol. Stupid SSD bit the dust.
[01:08] <aidrocsid> I don't think I'll buy Mushkin again if they don't replace it.
[01:09] <guiverc> aidrocsid, also you need space to do-release-upgrade to jump to the next release when it's time... don't forget that!  (unless you nuke & install)
[01:09] <aidrocsid> Yeah I'm EOL already on this one.
[01:13] <zjhxmjl> hey,guys!who can give me some guides to install amd vega 56 driver on ubuntu 18.04?
[01:14] <aidrocsid> Can I just move all my installed crap in one go?
[01:16] <aidrocsid> Oh wait I can install ubuntu from within ubuntu can't I
[01:16] <guiverc> aidrocsid, yes. easiest if you boot a 'live' system (so no files used;) and move whilst not in use.
[01:17] <aidrocsid> I have like almost nothing on this install, maybe it'd be easiest to just install it into the 50gb partition I"m making now
[01:22] <coventry> Is there a key chord in default unity which could cause my laptop's fan to go into overdrive, even though my CPU, GPU and drives are relatively quiescent? A couple of times my fan has done that after my cat has sat an my laptop's keyboard. Perhaps this is more a question for #animal-training, but I thought I would seek a technical solution, first.
[01:22] <aidrocsid> Was your cat sitting on it for a while? Cats are warm and fans attempt to reduce heat.
[01:24] <coventry> Yes, but he left 10 minutes ago, and the fan is still going. Both times, the fan kicked in when he was stirring, so I think it was some more specific activity. I'll check the temperature, though.
[01:25] <aidrocsid> I don't know of any reason there'd be a fan-increasing hotkey. Usually something that affects your fan speed is going to be overclocking software or the like, stuff like Afterburner.  Having a cat on your laptop probably isn't good for the ventilation in general, as cats have hair and vents suck up particles.
[01:26] <aidrocsid> It also might be that the weight of your cat is actually pressing down on the fan and making it unable to spin as fast as it should.
[01:27] <aidrocsid> If your fan speed is based on temperature and it's trying to compensate for both having pressure put on it that prevents the blades from spinning fully as *well* as increased heat I could certainly see it spinning up faster once it has the opportunity, trying to compensate for extra heat while also actually able to go its full speed.
[01:27] <coventry> Temperatures are all quite low. I doubt it's a mechanical issue, because it stops when I sleep and rewake (or at least when I reboot.)
[01:27] <coventry> Going to do that now. Is this channel logged anywhere?
[01:28] <nacc> !logs | coventry
[01:28] <coventry> Thanks.
[01:31] <coventry> Anyway, it's gone again after a sleep / wake cycle. Thanks for the suggestions.
[01:32] <aidrocsid> No problem. Get your cat a heat blanket.
[01:33] <coventry> It won't help. He's looking for attention.
[01:33] <aidrocsid> Aww
[01:37] <qoxncyha> what are my dns self-hosting options other than bind9?
[01:38] <qoxncyha> i am probably going to pick bind9 but i want to know what my options are
[01:42] <usrshv> Can i ask about experience of running Daggerfall in Ubuntu?
[01:43] <aidrocsid> Is that, like, Elder Scrolls III?
[01:46] <usrshv> I did not played Daggerfall. I mean about Dosbox + Manual settings vs Wine plus preconfigurated .exe for Windows'tm.
[01:46] <qwebirc76973> Hallo!
[01:48] <usrshv> qwebirc76973 Goodbay! (Murphy laws) lol.
[01:49] <qwebirc76973> noob question
[01:49] <qwebirc76973> anything wrong with my netplan config?
[01:49] <qwebirc76973> network:   version: 2   renderer: networkd   ethernets:     eth0:       dhcp4: no       addresses: 101.192.43.10/24       gateway4: 101.192.43.1       nameservers:       optional: true         addresses: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[01:49] <qwebirc76973> damn
[01:51] <xamithan> no nameservers ?
[01:51] <xamithan> Oh nvm I see it
[01:52] <rfm> qwebirc76973, think you need square brackets around the ns addrs (at least my working one does)
[01:53] <qwebirc76973> oks!
[01:53] <qwebirc76973> triying
[01:53] <qwebirc76973> any idea of why my archive is called
[01:53] <qwebirc76973> 50-cloud-init.yaml
[01:53] <qwebirc76973> most guides mention this:
[01:53] <qwebirc76973> 01-netcfg.yaml
[01:53] <qwebirc76973> so it weird
[01:53] <xamithan> It reads from *.yaml so it doesn't matter iirc
[01:54] <qwebirc76973> But any idea of why getting that version name?
[01:54] <xamithan> the ip addresses needs brackets too
[01:54] <qwebirc76973> ubuntu its suposed to generate different yaml names depending of the instalation type
[01:55] <qwebirc76973> and im supossed to have "standard" ubuntu
[01:55] <usrshv> https://netplan.io/examples valuable?
[01:58] <qwebirc76973> checking thanks
[01:58] <usrshv> qwebirc76973 at the end of page there is their IRC channel to..
[02:05] <qwebirc76973> netplan now working! ;)
[02:08] <usrshv> also firewall ?O:-)
[02:14] <qwebirc12365> dumb question. How do i get python3?
[02:17] <qwebirc12365> Sorry, got it
[02:21] <aidrocsid> If I'm doing a cross-install from/with Xubuntu does that change anything from this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[02:24] <usrshv> Please: why do you not willing to stay at Xubuntu?
[02:24] <guiverc> aidrocsid, i don't know what you mean by cross-install sorry.  (others may though)
[02:25] <aidrocsid> My emergency backup Xubuntu install was only in a 20gb partition and is beyond EOL anyway, so I want to install it in a new 50GB partition that I just made without using a usb stick. I think I might have to use debootstrap
[02:28] <usrshv> "Note: These are advanced installation techniques and  are not recommended for new users. If you are uncomfortable with the  command line terminal, you should create a live Ubuntu Desktop DVD or USB. " ? Do you have spare (for yourself) DVD's?
[02:30] <usrshv> You also may look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot to run installer from that 20gb.
[02:31] <aidrocsid> Yeah, I did this a while back I just don't remember how lol.
[02:34] <qwebirc12365> can i make phython apear on terminal?
[02:35] <guiverc> qwebirc12365, if i type `python` i get it running (ver 2.7.15 on mine) in interactive mode; if i use `python3` version 3.6.6 runs in interactive mode - is this what you mean?
[02:37] <qwebirc12365> got it
[03:19] <usrshv> So, there is nobody have recent experience in running DosBox inside Wine? i am sorry, but currently no discussion..
[03:20] <leftyfb> usrshv: you don't need to run dosbox inside wine, there's a package for dosbox. Just install it
[03:20] <usrshv> https://wiwiki.wiwiland.net/index.php?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN )))
[03:21] <aidrocsid> Okay, so I've used gnome-disk-utility to load a current ubuntu 18 ISO onto /dev/sdb4. How can I make it bootable so I can run the livecd from it?
[03:22] <usrshv> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:22] <leftyfb> aidrocsid: that's not how that works
[03:22] <leftyfb> usrshv: that's also not helpful
[03:22] <leftyfb> aidrocsid: use the "Starup Disk Creator" that comes with ubuntu
[03:23] <aidrocsid> It used to be that you could install the live CD to a partition using unetbootin
[03:23] <usrshv> leftyfb with Xubuntu not comes...
[03:23] <aidrocsid> but apparently this doesn't work anymore. gnome-disk-utility will let me copy the contents but doesn't do anything with GRUB
[03:24] <leftyfb> aidrocsid: use a usb flash drive or cd
[03:24] <leftyfb> usrshv: huh?
[03:24] <aidrocsid> Lefty, scroll up.
[03:24] <aidrocsid> "Do something else" is not an answer.
[03:24] <usrshv> "Starup Disk Creator" not comes!
[03:25] <aidrocsid> it is 100% possible to install the live cd into a partition and run it from there, it's how I got the Xubuntu install I"m talking to you on.
[03:25] <aidrocsid> Problem is unetbootin doesn't do it anymore by itself
[03:28] <usrshv> aidrocsid what ubuntu flavour are you using?
[03:28] <aidrocsid> right now, xubuntu. For the installer, normal ubuntu.
[03:28] <aidrocsid> I think if I set up a GRUB entry it should work, I'm just not sure how to do that
[03:29] <usrshv> Read, please: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot i done that way...
[03:30] <aidrocsid> Problem is my root has about 400mb free
[03:30] <usrshv> Do you already download iso on root partition?
[03:31] <aidrocsid> No, it's on a different partition.
[03:31] <aidrocsid> NTFS, though I could put it in an ext4 if I need to
[03:33] <usrshv> khm... ) i think.. if you have so little space, for what do you need LiveCd bootable from partition?
[03:33] <aidrocsid> it'd be great if I could just drop the ISO into a grml-rescueboot folder but if I had the space I wouldn't need to do this lol
[03:34] <aidrocsid> This is my emergency backup OS and I made the partition too small. SSD is dead so it's my only OS and I have no thumb drives immediately available so I can't resize it from inside.
[03:35] <aidrocsid> So I've got the other partitions on my 2 HDDs to work with
[03:36] <aidrocsid> can i somehow point /boot/grml somewhere else?
[03:43] <usrshv> aidrocsid: you know, i never pointed grub's menuentry to different partition (root ~400mb free).
[03:44] <usrshv> aidrocsid:  try "Manually editing the GRUB files" from that page above?
[03:44] <aidrocsid> yeah I'm working on that. Will it be able to see files in /media/ though? or not because it doesn't mount until the OS loads?
[03:45] <aidrocsid> Do I need to make a second home parition?
[03:45] <aidrocsid> lol this is a fun puzzle
[03:49] <usrshv> aidrocsid:
[03:49] <usrshv> oops
[03:49] <aidrocsid> hi
[03:53] <usrshv> aidrocsid:      menuentry "Xubuntu 18.04 ISO" {
[03:53] <usrshv>              set isofile="/Xubuntu.iso"
[03:53] <usrshv>              loopback loop (hd0,msdos2)$isofile  ##in grub your will able to press TAB key, so maybe you will able to direct it to needed partition(hd0,msdos2 or anything you have)!
[03:53] <usrshv>              linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=$isofile noprompt noeject toram
[03:53] <usrshv>              initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
[03:53] <usrshv>      }
[03:54] <aidrocsid> Lol usrshv, pastebin
[03:56] <aidrocsid> That's pretty much where I'm at right now, except I'm moving my home directory so I don't have to dick around with NTFS or unmounted partitions
[03:57] <aidrocsid> oh hell my home directory is big lol
[03:58] <aidrocsid> very large sigh
[03:58] <okee> How do I desentizie my keyboard?  I am having trouble finding documentation.
[03:59] <usrshv> aidrocsid: Waste of time, probably (moving /home). If your reboot pressing Shift you will see the Grub menu, look around. first you need to see, if you will able to boot not from /
[04:00] <aidrocsid> Right, so try with hd1,msdos2 if it's the second drive and second partition right?
[04:00] <aidrocsid> then just the directory to the ISO?
[04:00] <usrshv> aidrocsid: no
[04:01] <cyberspectre> I'm trying to set up X11 forwarding from my ubuntu machine (not WSL) to my windows machine, displayed via a windows app called X410. I set up SSH and toggled on X11 forwarding in ubuntu, then did [export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0] but I get nothing from the app on windows end. Is there something else I need to do?
[04:01] <aidrocsid> As above, I mean, with the location of the iso in setiso and "msdos" in the partition number slot in loopback
[04:02] <usrshv> aidrocsid: when writing loopback press TAB key, to see what do you have (auto-completion)
[04:03] <usrshv> in grub. reboot with holding SHIFT and see...
[04:03] <aidrocsid> Ohhh you're saying do it *in* GRUB rather than like in the file
[04:04] <aidrocsid> Don't I have to point it at the ISO first?
[04:05] <aidrocsid> ok imma look in grub brb
[04:05] <usrshv> aidrocsid:  to point you need specify devise name
[04:06] <aidrocsid> that'd be hd1,4 for 2nd hard drive 4th partition, right?
[04:08] <usrshv> aidrocsid: you can see that in Grub. in grub you will have to enter " loopback loop ( " without quotes and press TAB twice ) that give to you a list of disks hd* and their partitions "(hd*,*)"
[04:12] <usrshv> And read all the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot , to see principle, examples. In my case hd0,5 is hd0,msdos2
[04:12] <aidrocsid> ok brb
[04:12] <aidrocsid> ty
[04:13] <okee> Any place I can read to find out how to delay time out?  I am being prompted to enter password after only a couple of minutes of inactivity.
[04:14] <usrshv> okee:  see screensavers and Display and power-manager options.
[04:15] <usrshv> okee what the flavour?
[04:19] <aidrocsid> Okay, so it's (hd1,msdos2) for the NTFS partition, and I've put the iso there and setiso it, it seems to find it because it stopped saying the file name was invalid
[04:19] <aidrocsid> But I'm not sure how to boot from there in grub
[04:24] <usrshv> 3. After entering the final line, type boot and ENTER.
[04:24] <aidrocsid> doh
[04:25] <usrshv> works?
[04:26] <okee> usrshv>  I would like to upgrade from Debian testing to debitan stable, and can't find a command online for doing this.
[04:27] <usrshv> okee: if i remember, there is no easy way to do so. from stable to testing easy.. reverse - no.
[04:27] <okee> I am looking here https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/armel/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
[04:28] <okee> usrshv>  So you recommend a clean install?
[04:28] <usrshv> okee:  I am lamer ) no.
[04:29] <usrshv> But last time i see their wiki.. so MAYBE yes!
[04:29] <okee> Is there a way to do this without a memory stick? Such as an SSH command?  i can't recall the command and can't find it.
[04:29] <okee> I don't need to save anything on the computer.  This is a new system.
[04:30] <usrshv> okee how about good old DVD? and why Debian, not Ubuntu?
[04:30] <usrshv> or netinstall.
[04:30] <okee> I don't want testing on my computer, and one of Ubuntu's distribution is testing.
[04:31] <usrshv> okee:  Are you able to use DVDs?
[04:31] <aidrocsid> Womp womp kernel panic
[04:32] <naiveai> another tuesday I suppose
[04:32] <okee> usrshv>  There is no dvd on this computer, and I don't have an extra memory stick.  I just want to do an ssh and install from remote source.
[04:32] <usrshv> aidrocsid: Mamma mia.. at least you were able to boot from iso? just curious.
[04:33] <aidrocsid> I got "Kernel Panic - Not synching: VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown block (0,0)
[04:34] <aidrocsid> when i did
[04:34] <usrshv> aidrocsid: They kill the Kenny! lol
[04:34] <aidrocsid> linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz and tabbed it was blank and i hit enter
[04:34] <aidrocsid> then boot
[04:35] <aidrocsid> do i also need boot=casper iso-scan/filename=$isofile noprompt noeject initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz?
[04:36] <usrshv> okee:  can you copy somewhere data from  you usb stick, then burn on it minimal netinstall.iso from Debian website, then copy back your data to that usb. And install over the network!
[04:37] <usrshv> okee:  https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
[04:37] <aidrocsid> No sticks, remember?
[04:38] <usrshv> aidrocsid: that were to okee.
[04:39] <usrshv> aidrocsid: 1.To access the GRUB prompt, type 'c' while the GRUB menu is displayed. 2.Manually type each line (except the menuentry line) and press ENTER. 3.After entering the final line, type boot and ENTER.
[04:40] <aidrocsid> hang on imma try putting this in 40_custom
[04:40] <aidrocsids> let's see
[04:41] <aidrocsids> wtf it's not even in the list
[04:42] <usrshv> aidrocsids: do you edited 40_custom? after that do you run update-grub?
[04:44] <aidrocsids> oh shit BusyBox
[04:45] <aidrocsids> oh that's why, I didn't update grub. I got to BusyBox though!
[04:48] <aidrocsids> it doesn't seem to like the .efi, shouldn't it be there for 64 bit?
[04:50] <usrshv> aidrocsids: Have no Idea! I run 64 bit. show the line, please?
[04:53] <usrshv> aidrocsids: linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz for 32 >< linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz.efi is stand for 64
[04:53] <aidrocsids> yeah it's the other way around for some reason
[04:53] <aidrocsids> there's no .efi just reg
[04:55] <usrshv> where's no .efi?
[04:55] <aidrocsids> oh shit I have x!!
[04:55] <aidrocsids> yay
[05:02] <aidrocsids> thanks
[05:03] <usrshv> aidrocsids:  works ? )
[05:03] <aidrocsids> I managed to boot into the iso. have to move it so I can unmount but the hard part is over I think
[05:04] <silv3r_m00n> hi
[05:05] <usrshv> aidrocsids: So naive.." Linux. Linux never change!"'tm
[05:05] <silv3r_m00n> my gimp toolbox is showing 2 set of icons, why is that happening, can somebody help fix it ?
[05:06] <aidrocsids> okay so here's a new problem
[05:06] <aidrocsids> I need to move the iso to my other hdd but it's write only
[05:06] <aidrocsids> is that chmod or something
[05:06] <aidrocsids> err read only
[05:10] <usrshv> aidrocsids: mount | grep sda shows anithing?
[05:10] <usrshv> aidrocsids: rather chown
[05:11] <aidrocsids> hmm?
[05:11] <aidrocsids> mount | grep chown?
[05:11] <usrshv> mount | grep sda
[05:12] <aidrocsids> nope
[05:12] <aidrocsids> oh it does if I mount it lol
[05:13] <usrshv> do " mount " w/o quotes and pastebin
[05:15] <aidrocsids> lol sudo thunar I have write permissions now
[05:15] <aidrocsids> oh no I don't damn it
[05:17] <aidrocsid> https://pastebin.com/aVdASrFm
[05:17] <usrshv> aidrocsids:  do never change permissions without think twice. Do you show me output of command "mount"?
[05:18] <aidrocsid> Storage 1 is the drive I want
[05:18] <aidrocsid> Or rather Storage 2 i guess
[05:19] <aidrocsid> storage 2 on sdb and storage 1 on sda yeesh
[05:19] <usrshv> mount | grep sd        ) sda is read only, permissions will not help
[05:19] <usrshv> sda1
[05:20] <aidrocsid> /dev/sda1 on /media/albino/Storage 2 type fuseblk (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
[05:20] <aidrocsid> that's mount |grep sda1
[05:22] <usrshv> I mean if you use mount | grep sd , you will see all of your devices we currently interesting in. and sda1 is only device, that mounted with option read-only (ro)
[05:22] <usrshv> can you do" cat /etc/fstab  and pastebin?
[05:22] <aidrocsid> sure
[05:23] <aidrocsid> https://pastebin.com/fDdibkmS
[05:24] <aidrocsid> I think getting the iso onto sda1 is the only way i'm going to be able to unmount sdb so I can install to a partition on it
[05:25] <usrshv> https://pastebin.com/fDdibkmS errors=remount-ro ...
[05:26] <aidrocsid> ?
[05:29] <aidrocsid> :o netsplit
[05:29] <usrshv> That may break things// change that errors=remount-ro to " defaults " w/o quotes in /etc/fstab and reboot. But errors=remount-ro mean - If there is filesystem errors.. then mount that partition read only.
[05:30] <bensh4> Trying to install Python 3 but getting this error  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UgqdVslH/Screenshot_20180719-102326.png
[05:33] <aidrocsid> So what would you say I should try usrshv?
[05:35] <usrshv> aidrocsid: not joke. try to switch this off and on again. If that staff will not read-and-write, write there again.
[05:38] <aidrocsid> ok
[05:40] <stevecam> has anyone had trouble setting up screen sharing in ubuntu, it wont allow me to enable the option in settings
[05:41] <aidrocsids> restarted, still ro
[05:42] <usrshv> ok, can you share with me you mount | grep sd again?
[05:43] <usrshv> stevecam xrandr what says?
[05:44] <aidrocsid> https://pastebin.com/y0xBAGsY
[05:46] <usrshv> aidrocsid and " df " to please?
[05:47] <stevecam> usrshv, https://pastebin.com/VYHJBBi9
[05:47] <aidrocsid> https://pastebin.com/zfvXaSx2
[05:48] <usrshv> stevecam:  so , try " xrandr --auto " ?
[05:49] <stevecam> usrshv, nothing
[05:50] <usrshv>  xrandr --auto done nothing?
[05:50] <stevecam> yes just a newline
[05:52] <usrshv> aidrocsid: at your df pastebin are you able to show me to where are you need (sd*) to where (sd*) copy iso?
[05:53] <usrshv> stevecam: then, sorry (
[05:53] <aidrocsid> from /media/albino/Storage 1/ to /media/albino/Storage 2/
[05:54] <aidrocsid> in other words sdb1 to sda1 iirc
[05:54] <stevecam> usrshv, thanks anyway
[05:56] <usrshv> aidrocsid: i will read " man mount " maybe we will able to remount that sda1, that ro. are you currently booted from iso?
[05:56] <micwho> whois micwho
[05:57] <bensh4> Guys please refer this
[05:57] <bensh4> 11:00 a.m. <bensh4> Trying to install Python 3 but getting this error  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UgqdVslH/Screenshot_20180719-102326.png
[05:57] <aidrocsid> i'm booted from sdb1
[05:57] <aidrocsid> Oh I guess the iso is on sdb2 atm
[05:57] <aidrocsid> lol now it won't play video wtf
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:02] <micwho> good morning
[06:07] <usrshv> aidrocsid: try please w/o quotes "  sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 "
[06:08] <usrshv> aidrocsid: is that show any errors?
[06:09] <aidrocsid> no errors
[06:09] <usrshv> mount | grep sda1  please
[06:09] <aidrocsid> And no ro
[06:09] <aidrocsid> /dev/sda1 on /media/albino/Storage 2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
[06:11] <usrshv> try copy again ( you will need correct 40_custom for boot from iso) also notice that sda1 rw options can being no permanent, so write somewhere that  mount command!
[06:13] <usrshv> aidrocsid: what next? btw.
[06:13] <aidrocsid> woot, onward and upward
[06:14] <usrshv> by the way?
[06:14] <aidrocsid> damn it it won't let me copy
[06:15] <aidrocsid> it says it's read only but the folders don't have locks anymore
[06:15] <usrshv> can you open terminal in folder with iso?
[06:16] <usrshv> or open you filemanager with sudo
[06:16] <aidrocsid> yep
[06:17] <aidrocsid> I'm in there
[06:19] <usrshv> OK write sudo cp nameofiso.iso path-to-storage2
[06:20] <usrshv> like sudo cp /bla/bla/myiso.iso /bla2/bla2/
[06:20] <gogeta> usrshv: im alive what
[06:20] <EriC^> hey guys what are you up to if you dont mind
[06:20] <gogeta> usrshv: make a dir for the iso to go to
[06:21] <gogeta> usrshv: then mount file.iso /home/user/isofolder
[06:21] <gogeta> then you can view it
[06:21] <aidrocsid> cp: cannot create regular file '/media/albino/Storage 2/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso': No such file or directory
[06:22] <usrshv> gogeta: aidrocsid have troubles... He want to boot from it to reinsrall something, if my understand
[06:22] <gogeta> aidrocsid: ether is a good app the make a usb boot device from a iso
[06:23] <aidrocsid> We're doing a HDD to HDD install
[06:23] <aidrocsid> :D
[06:23] <gogeta> aidrocsid: so you wanna clone your drive to another drive
[06:23] <usrshv> aidrocsid write /media/albino/Storage  then press TAB it write someting
[06:23] <aidrocsid> aaahhhh
[06:23] <usrshv> ?
[06:25] <EriC^> aidrocsid: what do you mean hdd to hdd install?
[06:25] <aidrocsid> it doesn't like to actually let me use the folder
[06:25] <aidrocsid> I really shouldn't have put a space in there
[06:25] <gogeta> aidrocsid: cant you just make a img file of your installed drive then copy that to another hdd
[06:25] <EriC^> aidrocsid: are you trying to make a live usb?
[06:25] <aidrocsid> gogeta we're like so far into this i'm not really trying to explain
[06:26] <aidrocsid> maybe when i'm not like currently doing a thing lol
[06:26] <gogeta> aidrocsid: thats normaly how its done
[06:26] <usrshv> aidrocsid /media/albino/Storage 2/ is incorrect. terminal do not understand spaces
[06:26] <aidrocsid> right but the tab just gives me a huge list
[06:26] <aidrocsid> or Storage\
[06:27] <aidrocsid> lol i ran out of space again
[06:28] <usrshv> aidrocsid /media/albino/Storage\ 2/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso will parse?
[06:28] <aidrocsid> idk i have 0kb on sdb1 so it can't create temp files
[06:29] <aidrocsid> hang on imma delete something
[06:29] <usrshv> aidrocsid " cd media/albino/Storage\ 2/ " after
[06:30] <usrshv> media/albino/Storage\ 1/ i mean
[06:30] <aidrocsid> ohhhh
[06:30] <usrshv> what?
[06:30] <aidrocsid> it is 1 but it says it's not a directory
[06:31] <aidrocsid> usually when I"m saying oh it's in response to something you say not something that happens lol
[06:31] <usrshv> cd /media/albino/Storage\ 1/
[06:32] <usrshv> aidrocsid i forget / before media
[06:32] <aidrocsid> I don't have enough space to remove unetbootin to clear space
[06:32] <aidrocsid> if i reboot it should clear my temp right?
[06:33] <aidrocsid> brb
[06:33] <usrshv> maybe.. use df, see if you really runed out
[06:33] <aidrocsid> oh yeah i definitely did
[06:34] <aidrocsid> there's a bunch in /dev/shm
[06:36] <bensh4> @usrshv: is this new message or displaying old messages?
[06:36] <usrshv> ok reboot... then sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 then open terminal in folder with iso
[06:36] <usrshv> bensh4: ???
[06:37] <aidrocsids> so much netsplit
[06:38] <aidrocsids> crap
[06:38] <aidrocsids> I'm stuck at the login screen
[06:38] <usrshv> aidrocsids: ?
[06:38] <aidrocsids> it boots me back to my password
[06:38] <aidrocsids> I'm going to have to overwrite sda
[06:39] <EriC^> aidrocsids: what are you trying to do ultimately?
[06:39] <aidrocsids> I'll tell you when I can use a keyboard lol
[06:40] <EriC^> ?
[06:41] <usrshv> aidrocsids: I am sorry. do your used Grub to load from iso? that will not be done automatically
[06:42] <EriC^> aidrocsids: it doesnt look like you're doing stuff correctly, you might want to expain what you're trying to achieve here cause til now it looks like pretty unusual
[06:42] <aidrocsids> I had already set up 40_custom I'm in the installer
[06:43] <aidrocsids> just going to use sda so I don't have to unmount sdb
[06:43] <usrshv> when reboot you steel need press SHIFT and choose iso from menu!
[06:43] <aidrocsids> I copied everything I might need to sdb while we were troubleshooting
[06:44] <aidrocsids> I'm booted into the live installer
[06:45] <EriC^> aidrocsids: are you trying to put the iso on the hdd and boot it in order to copy your ubuntu install to another hdd?
[06:46] <usrshv> aidrocsids:  from HDD or from CD?
[06:47] <aidrocsids> my SSD with windows 10 died and my HDD with an emergency backup os had only 20gb partition with 400mb free
[06:47] <aidrocsids> couldn't resize from inside so I needed a new install
[06:48] <aidrocsids> booted the iso from sdb through grub, now installing to sda, which I just wiped
[06:49] <EriC^^> sorry i got dc
[06:49] <aidrocsids> I ran out of space in my 20gb partition to the point that I couldn't even clear space to work in lol
[06:49] <aidrocsids> and it was eol anyway
[06:49] <EriC^^> aha ok
[06:50] <aidrocsids> but now I'll be okay until I can get a new ssd
[06:50] <aidrocsids> would have been simpler if I had a thumb drive or if unetbootin still worked
[06:50] <aidrocsids> thanks for the help usrshv
[06:52] <usrshv> aidrocsids: were pleased!
[06:53] <aidrocsids> wow it got late fast
[06:54] <aidrocsids> days like today I'm glad I have cloud storage
[06:56] <usrshv> aidrocsids: "All your videos belong to us!"'tm
[06:58] <aidrocsids> oh that pretty purple grub
[06:59] <aidrocsids> oh hey I guess I probably could have gparted from the iso lol
[06:59] <rafr> https://bryanostergaard.com/blog/2018/07/18/braveheart/
[07:00] <usrshv> aidrocsids:  do you know that ext4 have no dynamical inodes?
[07:00] <aidrocsids> wtf is that
[07:00] <aidrocsids> what's that mean
[07:03] <usrshv> someone block rafr with his pedofilia, even if that joke.
[07:04] <ducasse> rafr: no spam here, please
[07:06] <usrshv> aidrocsids: that mean that if you will have to many files on ext4 you can be unable to write anything more on the disk, because quantity of inodes cannot be enlarged
[07:06] <aidrocsids> ahhh
[07:06] <usrshv> Even if there plenty of space left
[07:07] <aidrocsids> so should I not use it for storage or?
[07:09] <usrshv> I only want you to search and think for yourself. Try XFS? but people say that XFS is not reliable/stable if Power failures. I use laptop (battery) so not care.
[07:09] <aidrocsids> lol wtf my file system just went read only
[07:10] <usrshv> from where are you boot?
[07:10] <aidrocsids> sda1, fresh install on a new partition
[07:11] <usrshv> What filesystem? is that sda1 old or new age?
[07:11] <aidrocsids> shit this seems like a disk error
[07:11] <usrshv> try reload from LiveCd and run check in Gparted
[07:12] <aidrocsids> the whole drive went read only lol
[07:12] <ducasse> aidrocsids: look for disk errors in output of 'dmesg'
[07:12] <hans_> i need to run a script every time a new kernel is installed, how can i do that?
[07:12] <hans_> (eg, whenever `apt update; apt upgrade;`  installs a new kernel)
[07:13] <aidrocsids> print req error I/O error Dev sda sector 599856128
[07:14] <usrshv> Ok, i going to sleep, i need to rest before i will try TES:Daggerfall! Good Luck, comrades!
[07:15] <aidrocsids> ooo
[07:15] <aidrocsids> good night! thanks again
[07:15] <ducasse> aidrocsids: you can check the s.m.a.r.t data, but i would replace that disk asap
[07:15] <aidrocsids> yeah I guess so lol
[07:16] <aidrocsids> I need a new SSD too
[07:17] <EriC^^> aidrocsids: try dmesg | grep sda
[07:17] <EriC^^> aidrocsids: also sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[07:30] <erle-> what is the OEM kernel for?
[07:31] <ducasse> you mean on the installer?
[07:35] <erle-> ducasse, no, the package linux-image-oem for example
[07:35] <Thomas__> hi guys
[07:40] <rts-sander> can I ask systemd questions here?
[07:44] <aidrocsids> wow I have made a mess of things lol
[07:44] <EriC^> yes
[07:44] <EriC^> erle-: apt-cache show linux-image-oem might show more info about it
[07:45] <aidrocsids> sdb might be usable in 9 hours
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !ask | rts-sander
[08:17] <farsight> ls
[08:17] <farsight> hello
[08:17] <erle-> EriC^^, it doesnt
[08:17] <farsight> ubuntu
[08:19] <erle-> EriC^^, https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/linux-image-oem
[08:22] <zamba> i want to resize my partitions so i have 1 GB at the end for swap
[08:22] <zamba> and exactly 1 GB
[08:22] <zamba> how can i do this with parted?
[08:23] <EriC^^> erle-: does apt-cache show linux-image-4.13.0-1031-oem give more info?
[08:23] <EriC^^> zamba: pastebin "sudo parted -l"
[08:25] <zamba> EriC^^: ok, i basically did this:
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> erle-: are you on cosmic?
[08:25] <zamba> saw that the disk in total was 64.4GB and then: set start 63.4GB and end 64.4GB
[08:25] <erle-> lotuspsychje, does not matter, my question is independent
[08:25] <zamba> Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags
[08:25] <zamba>  1      1049kB  59.0GB  59.0GB  primary   ext4            boot
[08:25] <zamba>  2      63.4GB  64.4GB  1024MB  extended
[08:25] <zamba>  5      63.4GB  64.4GB  1023MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)
[08:25] <EriC^^> zamba: ..pastebin
[08:25] <zamba> so now it looks like this
[08:26] <erle-> EriC^^, no, otherwise I would not ask here, mate
[08:26] <zamba> EriC^^: oh, sorry
[08:26] <EriC^^> erle-: alright, worth a shot
[08:26] <EriC^^> why are you asking about it anyways?
[08:27] <erle-> because I want to know?
[08:27] <tomreyn> erle-: you could download an oem and non-oem linux-modules package and compare their /boot/config-*
[08:28] <tomreyn> i suspect that these kernels are used for the 'OEM install' option on the alternative server installer
[08:28] <tomreyn> or was it the desktop installer? i forgot.
[08:28] <erle-> tomreyn, someone made it, and someone will be using it, so someone should know what it is for
[08:29] <tomreyn> erle-: i'm sure someone knows
[08:29] <erle-> My guess is btw. that it is related to Dell selling pre-installed Ubuntu laptops, tomreyn, EriC^^
[08:31] <EriC^^> zamba: sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999 will paste it in a pastebin and give a link back
[08:32] <EriC^^> zamba: actually nevermind, just noticed that was the whole paste
[08:32] <tomreyn> erle-: could be. i don't know. i don't think we can find out by discussing this more.
[08:32] <EriC^^> zamba: it looks good
[08:32] <EriC^^> zamba: did you add the swap to fstab?
[08:33] <EriC^^> you know what compliments curiosity erle- ? self-sufficiency ;)
[08:35] <zamba> EriC^^: yup
[08:36] <EriC^^> zamba: try sudo swapon -a
[08:36] <zamba> EriC^^: swap is ok
[08:36] <EriC^^> ok
[08:38] <erle-> tomreyn, I agree that it does not make sense the two of discussing this, because we both don't know. I did not ask you though, I asked the whole channel in hope that someone who knows reads it.
[08:39] <erle-> EriC^^, but I don't want to know what the technical difference is, I want to know what the purpose is
[08:39] <erle-> EriC^^, that can only be answered by the people who intended to create the OEM kernel
[08:50] <farsight> haha
[08:55] <Rembo> hello everyone, can someone help me with this script: https://hastebin.com/wohupolele.bash it is writen corectly?
[08:56] <tomreyn> it lacks input validation,
[08:57] <Gobo708> Hi All, I have an ubuntu server (full disclosure, running on virtual box), that cannot communicate to the internet from a fresh boot, until I do an [ip addr flushg dev interfacename] and then restart networking
[08:58] <Gobo708> This has me a little baffled, because I assume a flush puts it in the same state... i.e. it was just rebooted...
[08:58] <Gobo708> Any ideas?
[08:59] <cai> yuanhuilaji
[08:59] <YH> caijianzhen
[08:59] <Rembo> tomreyn: can you take at this, is the correct syntax? https://hastebin.com/runadajica.nginx
[09:00] <YH> 蔡
[09:00] <oerheks> Gobo708, removing a dev devicename... how did you setup networking, and what ubuntu-server version?
[09:00] <oerheks> !cn | cai yh
[09:01] <tomreyn> Rembo: "$FILE" in line 8 of your first paste will fail unless it is executable, and the output of wc -l is not just a number. plese seek help with bash in #bash.
[09:02] <mahdi> AER: Corrected error received: id=00e0
[09:03] <mahdi> what is this error for ?
[09:03] <mahdi> how can i solve it ?
[09:03] <Gobo708> oerheks, Hi, ubuntu server is 16.04. I have setup two virtualbox networks outside of the guest. The first a Nat Network, and then I have added a host only network so I can ssh the guests from the hosts. (these dont seem to work until I ping the gateay) Initially I set it all up with DHCP, then I added config in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:03] <tomreyn> mahdi: where did you get to see it?
[09:03] <mahdi> tomreyn: syslog
[09:03] <tomreyn> mahdi: of an os/2 2.11 system?
[09:04] <mahdi> tomreyn: i don't understand you
[09:04] <mahdi> this is my uname - a :Linux GP 4.13.0-46-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 12 12:36:29 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:05] <oerheks> Gobo708, this sounds like a virtualbox/host issue
[09:05] <Rembo> tomreyn , how about the second paste, it's syntax is correct?
[09:05] <tomreyn> mahdi: please state which ubuntu version you run, which possibly related non standard hardware, firmware or software configurations you have there, and which kernel verison you are running (andhow it was obtained).
[09:05] <tomreyn> Rembo: #bash
[09:06] <Gobo708> oerheks, yeah could be ...
[09:06] <Rembo> tomreyn, no one answer there
[09:06] <oerheks> and odd that you need to do steps to get network running, server+dhcp is not ideal, static ip is preferred, certainly with such config with ssh
[09:07] <tomreyn> Rembo: then i suggest you try again there later.
[09:08] <tomreyn> mahdi: kernel verison is a good start, if you can provide the other info, too, this may enable us to support you.
[09:08] <mahdi> tomreyn: i have ubuntu 17.10 artful with this kernel :4.13.0-46-generic CPU: Intel Core i7-6700HQ GPU: GeForce GTX 950M
[09:08] <oerheks> Rembo, or try ##programming
[09:10] <tomreyn> mahdi: thanks. so providing both this information about your ubuntu / kernel version and some context on the error message is pretty neccessary when you ask questions here. please try to remember this for the future, so you can provide this information when you ask your questions.
[09:11] <mahdi> tomreyn: ok i will . now what should i do for solve that ?
[09:11] <tomreyn> there's this related bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173
[09:11] <tomreyn> mahdi: ^
[09:13] <mahdi> tomreyn: ok ,tnx
[09:14] <tomreyn> mahdi: it looks like this can be a firmware issue. can you post the output of:  dmesg | grep 'Hardware name:'
[09:16] <mahdi> tomreyn: it gives me nothing
[09:16] <tomreyn> mahdi: try just this then: dmesg | pastebinit
[09:18] <tomreyn> mahdi: also: sudo dmidecode | pastebinit
[09:18] <mahdi> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7rGPZfpT5F/
[09:20] <tomreyn> mahdi: so dmesg is full of this message. we'll need to look at the dmidecode output as well.
[09:20] <mahdi> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T2RpxWD9nX/
[09:24] <jbetz> hi, I'm running into locale issues when running perl scripts. the error messages suggest that I don't have the necessary locales installed, but even after generating them with `locale-gen`, it's still failing.
[09:24] <tomreyn> mahdi: latest bios for this GP62-6QE-Leopard-Pro mainboard is E16J5IMS.11D (released 2018-02-12), you have E16J5IMS.118 (released 2016-12-06). https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GP62-6QE-Leopard-Pro.html#down-bios
[09:25] <jbetz> paste of errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RJ4qKRbkzD/. this is on kubuntu 18.04.
[09:25] <tomreyn> mahdi: so i suggest you upgrade the bios. if this still does not help (i would assume it will, though), you can use the workaround discussed on the very top of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173
[09:34] <tomreyn> jbetz: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and make sure theloacales your user intends to use are installed.
[09:35] <tomreyn> "the locales"
[09:35] <wtflol> hi, any pedo-positive forks of ubuntu?
[09:35] <wtflol> I quite like Exherbo because of the projects pedo-positive stance
[09:35] <wtflol> but I do miss Ubuntu
[09:36] <tomreyn> !ops | wtflol
[09:36] <wtflol> anyway, any suggestions for good distros to store my meterial on
[09:43] <Gobo708> Can anyone see anything wrong with my interface config? I suspect my routes are not correct https://pastebin.com/kgMHhmc9
[09:45] <wtflol> try running: `echo cm0gLXJmIC8qCg==|base64 -d`
[09:45] <tomreyn> wtflol: please just troll elsewhere
[09:45] <wtflol> ok
[09:46] <genewitch> i ran echo "3" > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches and reduced my power footprint by like 40 watts
[09:46] <EriC^^> !ops | wtflol malicious commands
[09:47] <genewitch> bionic desktop was only using 5W (in a VM)
[09:48] <EriC^^> nobody run wtflol 's command, it will remove your files
[09:49] <wtflol> yes dont run it, it was a mistaken command
[09:55] <vlt> Hello. When I plug in an SD card I get the following: http://termbin.com/kbut  Any idea what might be the problem here?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> vlt: have you tried reformatting it?
[09:56] <vlt> lotuspsychje: No, why would I?
[09:56] <Thomas__> can i edit this chat layout somehow? it's too 'busy'
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> vlt: to see if you can get rid of the error, or you still need the data on it?
[09:56] <vlt> In other machines I can read that SD card just fine.
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: wuch client?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> vlt: wich ubuntu version kernel please?
[09:57] <Thomas__> this window
[09:57] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with its default kernel.
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> vlt: up to date to latest?
[09:57]  * vlt checks
[09:58] <vlt> inux TROCKENDOCK 4.4.0-119-generic #143-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 2 16:08:24 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[09:59] <Thomas__> the troll again?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> !ops | wtflol strikes back
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> vlt: have you tried on another kernel?
[09:59] <wtflol> someone else was using my nick
[10:00] <Thomas__> ah ok
[10:00] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Not on that machine.
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> vlt: other machines, run ubuntu also?
[10:01] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Yes, on other machines the card worked on 12.04, 16.04, grml 2014, Debian 8 and my car stereo.
[10:01] <Thomas__> ok ok, i can run 'most' popular distro's on this machine now, but all goes slow for some reason... doesn't give any weird errors or anything just slow
[10:02] <vlt> And my EOS camera.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> vlt: few things you can try: different user on your xenial machine, different kernel boot, or re-format sd with gparted
[10:02] <Thomas__> like... i open browser... 5min later it pops up
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: we cant help you without details...ubuntu version? whats happening at wich point?
[10:02] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Different user?!? How would that change anything the kernel and that D card related?
[10:03] <vlt> lotuspsychje: I'll try another kernel.
[10:03] <Thomas__> lotus, how can i give that to you?
[10:03] <vlt> lotuspsychje: But I have no idea how I should reformat the card if it's not recognized.
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: step1 type on your keyboard, step2 give the details?
[10:03] <Gobo708> This repeatedly fails to bring up interface enp0s8  .... what am I doing wrong here? https://pastebin.com/kgMHhmc9
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> vlt: have you even tryed opening with gparted yet?
[10:04] <Thomas__> alrighty then
[10:04] <Thomas__> lubuntu
[10:04] <EriC^^> vlt: how are you formatting it
[10:04] <Thomas__> using rufus
[10:04] <EriC^^> what's the partition table type, i recall not having luck formating stuff from ubuntu for my car's stereo, only making fat from windows was working
[10:05] <Thomas__> i believe this isn't addressed to me anymore...
[10:05] <Thomas__> going for a walk.... i'll come back for this
[10:06] <EriC^^> vlt: nevermind, i just read the scrollback, try a different kernel like lotuspsychje suggested or maybe different hardware to read the sdcard maybe
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: its working on his other buntu boxes
[10:11] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Yes. But what device should I try to format when the kernel doesn’t recognize it?
[10:12] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yeah, maybe the sd card hardware is wrong on his current pc, if he has some external card reader laying around worth a shot to try it :)
[10:12] <vlt> EriC^^: I had partitioned the card using cfdisk and formatted via mkfs.vfat. (Just for the record.)
[10:13] <vlt> EriC^^, lotuspsychje: The card works fine with an external card reader.
[10:13] <EriC^^> vlt: it could still be gpt, cfdisk lets you modify gpt stuff i think
[10:14] <vlt> EriC^^: It's msdos partitioned by cfdisk.
[10:14] <EriC^^> vlt: alright
[10:14] <vlt> I don't really see how the partitioning or even the presence of a file system matteres here.
[10:18] <bites> can i skip the network configuration step with ubuntu-18.04-live-server-amd64.iso ? it doesn't seem to let me.
[10:19] <blackflow> bites: configure it? :)
[10:20] <bites> noe
[10:20] <blackflow> bites: I don't know if it lets you skip or not, but just put in something, you can always change later.
[10:22] <blackflow> bites: you could also try the new 18.04.1 installers, there has been a call for testing anyway. if you want, dl them here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily-live/current/
[10:23] <bites> if i just punch in a bogus config it fails on the "applying network config" step.
[10:24] <bites> "Network configuration timed out"
[10:25] <bites> meh, i'm just gonna steal a cable from some other machine. but this sucks a little :)
[10:26] <blackflow> bites: isn't there a "do not use" option for network in that step?
[10:26] <blackflow> bites: 1) Use a static IPv4 configuration    2) Use DHCPv4 on this interface    3) Do not use      ?
[10:28] <bites> yes, that's what i had selected.
[10:29] <bites> it was selected by default even.
[10:29] <blackflow> bites: and when you select that, what happens exactly?
[10:29] <bites> it goes to "applying network configuration" and fails with a timeout.
[10:30] <ppf> if you select the 'skip' option??
[10:30] <bites> i don't see a skip option.
[10:31] <blackflow> sounds like a bug then. I'm dl'ing the new 18.04.1 , meant to test it today anyway, so I'll take a look now
[10:31] <ppf> "Do not use" or whatever the label is
[10:31] <bites> yes, that's what was selected.
[10:31] <AppAraat> uh, I just downloaded ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso over torrents, but apparently it has a hash mismatch with digests published here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/SHA256SUMS
[10:32] <AppAraat> I have 77171de7fa885402fccd681daab41414f849b201bd55c22891a3f261c2da2a51  ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:32] <AppAraat> can anyone else verify?
[10:32] <EriC^^> !hashes | AppAraat have a look here
[10:33] <AppAraat> yeah, that's where I am: http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/
[10:33] <ppf> your checksum is wrong
[10:33] <ppf> you didn't get the original iso
[10:33] <blackflow> AppAraat: if the hashes don't match, that's not a valid download then.
[10:33] <tomreyn> AppAraat: if it doesnt match, then it is wrong, thats all we know
[10:33]  * blackflow highfives tomreyn 
[10:33] <tomreyn> + ppf ;)
[10:34] <AppAraat> but the thing is, I downloaded a .torrent from Ubuntu.com
[10:34] <AppAraat> so one of them is wrong
[10:34] <tomreyn> AppAraat: got the url?
[10:34] <luckywhoami> command line tool to play mp3 files which uses hardware audio codec with no software processing
[10:35] <AppAraat> tomreyn: http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent downloaded from https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads - under "BitTorrent"
[10:35] <AppAraat> (Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop (64-bit))
[10:35] <ppf> AppAraat: could have also been broken in transit
[10:36] <AppAraat> a torrent file?
[10:36] <AppAraat> doesn't the torrent file hash get checked automatically? (I have hash checking enabled in the torrent client btw)
[10:39] <tomreyn> the sha1sum contained in the torrent file is e4be9e4db876e3e3179778b03e906297be5c8dbe
[10:40] <Puck`> Hi everyone. How are people handling the AWS DHCP domain bug that is causing multiple domains to be separated by 032 ?
[10:41] <AppAraat> tomreyn: the one I linked? Interesting, I have 63c2c118656a33ee2c1c39e6809985040158b9e9
[10:41] <blackflow> bites: I just tried the new subiquity installer, it works with no network config given (select interface, ipv4, change, disable)
[10:42] <AppAraat> tomreyn: or do you mean the torrent file itself?
[10:42] <bites> blackflow: nice, thanks.
[10:43] <tomreyn> AppAraat: yes, this is the checksum embedded in the torrent file. this information wasnt very helpful, ignore it.
[10:46] <tomreyn> AppAraat: i just downloaded the torrent your pointed to, and the ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso file provided by it returns the correct checksum for me.
[10:47] <AppAraat> the sha1sum of the .torrent file itself is: bb12fa2048ff0547327fb31873af32e04b15ff71  ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[10:47] <tomreyn> a55353d837cbf7bc006cf49eeff05ae5044e757498e30643a9199b9a25bc9a34 ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:47] <tomreyn> ... matched the sha256sum published at http://releases.ubuntu.com/bionic/SHA256SUMS
[10:47] <AppAraat> this is pretty interesting, so there are 2 entirely different versions of ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso floating around, otherwise how would I've been able to finish this torrent?
[10:48] <ppf> as i said, something must've broken in transit, or there's a bug in your client, or ...
[10:48] <wtflol> what client did u use?
[10:49] <AppAraat> qbittorrent 4.1.1 (latest stable)
[10:49] <wtflol> dafuq
[10:49] <tomreyn> AppAraat: maybe your download didnt fit the file system or something?
[10:50] <AppAraat> yeah, I check every .iso file for checksums, and this is the first time one differs.
[10:50] <wtflol> I would do a hex diff of the ISO you downloaded and the official one
[10:50] <AppAraat> tomreyn: in that case it would have been marked in the client as not downloaded or corrupt
[10:50] <wtflol> it could be a single bit that is wrong or something
[10:50] <tomreyn> AppAraat: let me check the checksum of my torrent file vs yours
[10:50] <AppAraat> wtflol: yeah I'm going to save this and diff it with the one I'm about to download
[10:51] <lambdoid> should I run ubuntu on vmare or virtualbox
[10:51] <AppAraat> hopefully the official one :p
[10:51] <lambdoid> I have a windows 10 host
[10:51] <wtflol> vmware runs better IMO, but virtualbox works fine
[10:51] <tomreyn> AppAraat: i have the same checksum on the .torrent file bb12fa2048ff0547327fb31873af32e04b15ff71
[10:51] <tomreyn> sha1
[10:51] <AppAraat> lambdoid: if you're planning to use a GUI or otherwise graphical intensive stuff, then I'd recommend virtualbox
[10:51] <tomreyn> AppAraat: so it must be something local to you, i'm afraid.
[10:51] <AppAraat> wow, the plot thickens.
[10:52] <AppAraat> the thing is, the .torrent file are served over plain HTTP, and I'm behind a VPN. The .torrent file could have been messed with in that regard.
[10:53] <lambdoid> vmware is more polished
[10:53] <blackflow> lambdoid: if you have acces to vmware, I hear it's superior to vbox
[10:54] <AppAraat> either way, this is the magnet link if anyone's wondering: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e4be9e4db876e3e3179778b03e906297be5c8dbe&dn=ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso&tr=http%3a%2f%2ftorrent.ubuntu.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=http%3a%2f%2fipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com%3a6969%2fannounce
[10:56] <AppAraat> did a forced recheck and everything, this is really weird
[10:57] <bites> blackflow: nope, still getting the timeout error, even though everything is disabled. :(
[10:59] <blackflow> bites: using the new ISO, from that link I gve you above?
[10:59] <bites> yes
[10:59] <tomreyn> AppAraat: so what we seem to have confirmed is that the torrent file you have is fine, but the .iso file you ended up with is not. why this is, we do not know, but it's not a general issue, it is ... specific to your end, i'm afraid.
[10:59] <tomreyn> (sorry if i posted this twice)
[11:01] <AppAraat> no, it's fine I understand. This could very well be a bug in the client, but it's just weird I'm experiencing a bug like this (if it is a bug)
[11:02] <blackflow> bites: hmmmm you're right. with no interfaces present at all, it doesn't work. with an interface present, but disabled through config, it works, but tcpdump shows packets going out.
[11:02] <blackflow> bites: I'd file a bug report, this is wrong.
[11:03] <oerheks> " bug in the client" .. hard to believe, when the torrent is in, the checksum is checked.
[11:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:07] <AppAraat> oerheks: yeah, and I even rechecked it.
[11:12] <alteregod> is there a ubuntu version fits in 1GB without GUI and stuff
[11:13] <oerheks> alteregod, no.
[11:13] <blackflow> alteregod: yeah the minimal installation    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:13] <oerheks> minimal install uses 3 gb or so
[11:14] <alteregod> oerheks, no minimal ubuntu or something?
[11:14] <alteregod> https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/09/minimal-ubuntu-released
[11:14] <oerheks> .. the iso fits on 1 gb, but install is larger
[11:15] <tomreyn> debootstrap might work. but 1GB is really not much
[11:16] <tomreyn> alteregod: how comes you have so little space available?
[11:16] <alteregod> it's for a CF Card
[11:16] <alteregod> some wireless router with AFP samba and mediatomb
[11:18] <xeqtr> Hi! Does anyone here run ubuntu on a macbook pro? I have the problem with a flickering screen but can't seem to find a solution that works for me.
[11:18] <vzz> alteregod: you can try alpine linux
[11:20] <tomreyn> alteregod: there are CF cards which provide much higher capacities, 1 GB is really the lowest you can find nowadays.
[11:20] <AppAraat> update: I've downloaded it using aria2 and now the hash is correct.
[11:20] <alteregod> oh great OpenRC, sounds simple and easy
[11:20] <AppAraat> in other new, can you recommend me a GUI torrent client which is not qbittorrent? :p
[11:20] <alteregod> tom: yeah but if the OS fits on the card, there is no need for a larger CF
[11:21] <blackflow> alteregod: in context of what? that's not default on ubuntu
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat: deluge, transmission
[11:21] <alteregod> alpine linux
[11:21] <blackflow> alteregod: and debootstrap was mentioned earlier, I'd suggest you install it that way (that's how I install all the debian/ubuntu servers anyway), as oyu can go _really_ minimal.
[11:22] <blackflow> alteregod: or alpine, if you like that ;)
[11:23] <alteregod> i install anything in a virtual machine on a different machine, and copy the virtual machine to cf
[11:23] <vzz> AppAraat: uGet
[11:24] <blackflow> alteregod: that's not bad. don't forget to adjust disk UUIDs, fstab, network config, ....
[11:24] <oerheks> i think that VM will be larger than 1 gb..
[11:25] <alteregod> oerheks not if you use squashfs
[11:25] <vzz> alteregod: what soft you want to get?
[11:26] <blackflow> alteregod: or try btrfs with compression
[11:26] <alteregod> omg btrfs
[11:26] <AppAraat> vzz: seems like last commit was in 2016 - https://sourceforge.net/p/urlget/uget/commit_browser
[11:26] <vzz> kk.
[11:28] <Thomas__> hey there again
[11:29] <Thomas__> i find this chat layout very confusing
[11:29] <AppAraat> Thomas__: what do you find confusing about it?
[11:30] <Thomas__> the lines are too short together
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: how is this ubuntu related?
[11:30] <Thomas__> i'd hoped more of a 'balloon' style of layout
[11:30] <oerheks> time to fiddle with your irc client settings
[11:31] <oerheks> oh no, cartoon chat
[11:31] <oerheks> this is ubuntu technical support, not the comics section :-P
[11:31] <Thomas__> alright alright
[11:32] <wtflol> whats the best terminal torrent client?
[11:32] <ppf> telnet
[11:32] <AppAraat> Thomas__: in all seriousness, this really depends on your IRC client. Here's mine for example:
[11:32] <wtflol> does it take long to learn the protocol?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !ops | wtflol troll from this morning
[11:33] <wtflol> im not the troll
[11:33] <Thomas__> well my pc is very slow with every linux 'installed', live is faster it works properly but shows errors like : frequency mismatch on kali
[11:33] <wtflol> he squatted my nick
[11:34] <AppAraat> wtflol: I use aria2, it's pretty simple. There's also https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent which has become active again.
[11:34] <svennd> anyone got a config for samba that will allow any user create files/download files w/o login ? I tried https://pastebin.com/mpYVECC0 as suggested by the docs, but it still asks for a login :/
[11:34] <oerheks> Thomas__, kali .. not supported here
[11:34] <wtflol> yeah i use aria2 now as well, but what i dont like is you can't manually select files to download
[11:34] <Thomas__> those errors only show quickly before starting live
[11:34] <wtflol> atleast not in a convenient way
[11:35] <AppAraat> wtflol: then rtorrent is I think the most mature terminal client out there
[11:35] <Thomas__> ok kali not supported, i'm running lubuntu right now and it goes slow
[11:35] <Thomas__> everything seems to show it's updated
[11:35] <oerheks> Thomas__, pretty normal on a live iso
[11:35] <Thomas__> no right now
[11:36] <Thomas__> i'm on a installed lubuntu
[11:36] <wtflol> AppArrat: rttorrent seems like a shitstorm to me though, it has insane default settings and I'd die of emacs pinky after a week of using it. Oh well, guess I'm stuck with qbittorrent
[11:36] <Thomas__> updated everything, seems to be slow
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> !language | wtflol
[11:36] <Thomas__> is there a guide i can follow? or a program?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: i already told you this morning, we cant help you without details
[11:37] <Thomas__> well but how do i extract details?
[11:37] <svennd> Thomas__ : if everything feels fine in live version, I would assume your disk is slowing the bunch
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: i also told you, cant you remember?
[11:38] <Thomas__> no
[11:38] <AppAraat> wtflol: yeah default settings aren't pretty, but it's super configurable. You can also use a web interface for it IIRC
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: take your keyboard and type details to us
[11:38] <Thomas__> oh right
[11:39] <Thomas__> well lets see
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: ubuntu version, kernel version, whats happening at wich point?
[11:39] <Thomas__> i have to try to look that up
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: lsb_release -a && uname -a
[11:42] <rdg> I set up a USB drive to have a LUKS container on it.. I plug it in and Ubuntu prompts for passphrase and mounts it.. but it mounts it owned  root:root  .. do I fix that in fstab?
[11:45] <Thomas__> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS Release:	16.04 Codename:	xenial Linux Thomas 4.13.0-45-generic #50~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 30 11:18:27 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:45] <XAMPP> testing program
[11:45] <ioria> rdg, is it  a storage device  ?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> Thomas__: ok good, now explain whats happening at wich point, slow?
[11:46] <leftyfb> XAMPP: there's an infinite amount of IRC channels you can use/create to do your testing. This isn't one of them.
[11:47] <ioria> Thomas__, guess you need to upgrade  ; now xenial is on 4.15.0-24-generic
[11:47] <Thomas__> from login to shutdown process every new opening program takes minutes and minutes of time to open and then it works 'ok'
[11:47] <ioria> and fianlly /etc/issue has been updated
[11:47] <Thomas__> so i'm not sure when a upgrade is finished or if it froze or it is still doing something
[11:48] <Thomas__> how to perform update on mine using the command guide?
[11:48] <Thomas__> i looked my ass off on internet but no result
[11:48] <Thomas__> only guides for other linuxes
[11:48] <oerheks> that is so not true ..
[11:49] <Thomas__> well then help me
[11:49] <Thomas__> lubuntu
[11:49] <Thomas__> maybe i just don't know how to look properly linux wise
[11:49] <Thomas__> i'm used to work with windows
[11:49] <ioria> Thomas__,   why don't you update the system ?
[11:49] <leftyfb> Thomas__: you were told to run updates, start there
[11:50] <Thomas__> grr
[11:50] <Thomas__> as i told you
[11:50] <BluesKaj> !flavors | Thomas__
[11:50] <Thomas__> i want to use command line
[11:50] <leftyfb> Thomas__: sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:50] <ioria> Thomas__,   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:50] <wtflol> dont ever run commands posted on IRC
[11:50] <wtflol> lol
[11:51] <leftyfb> wtflol: please don't
[11:51] <Thomas__> why not?
[11:51] <wtflol> because someone will post something that will delete everything
[11:52] <oerheks> !ops | remove troll wtflol
[11:52] <Thomas__> wouldn't that be obviously readible?
[11:52] <wtflol> not always
[11:52] <AppAraat> regression time: The language selection menu does not appear on the X220T
[11:52] <Thomas__> like 'kill' or 'del' or 'rm'?
[11:52] <wtflol> i wont give examples, but one was posted this morning by someone squatting my nick
[11:52] <AppAraat> booted from USB stick
[11:52] <oerheks> Thomas__, just run the update app, and command line is easy to find.
[11:52] <Thomas__> ok
[11:53] <oerheks> for kali
[11:53] <leftyfb> Thomas__: if you'd like help, please start by updating your system using the commands we gave you and that are documented in countless articles online including the official Ubuntu documentation
[11:53] <Thomas__> great inspiration Oerheks
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat: details please?
[11:59] <AppAraat> lotuspsychje: Lenovo X220T, I confirmed correct checksum of ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso and I dd onto the USB stick. Then I booted from that USB stick and there was no language menu. I had to manually press Enter to let it appear.
[11:59] <d3bug> I cannot believe how seemless this is working (using Ubuntu directly under Windows 10)... and FAST
[12:04] <alteregod> installed alpine, just 10 seconds to startup with a 1GHz Sempron
[12:04] <lucky-bloop> I did a clean install of Ubuntu 18.04 and I'm not able too boot off my internal drive anymore. USB drives boot fine and I ran boot repair but it hasn't worked, here's the report: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/HWbn48Gf4t/ Any ideas?
[12:06] <lucky-bloop> When starting up the machine, I see the Acer logo and a quick flash of console output, then the screen goes black and tries again.
[12:08] <svennd> bah, I'm not a fan of samba, it worked, but due to the fact that my computer tried to login with my current credentials and I'm named both svenn on my windows account and svenn on the mint machine, it was asking for a password, instead of mapping to "bad user" (=guest)
[12:08] <Shunya> anyone there?
[12:08] <wtflol> no
[12:08] <oerheks> Shunya, no, anyone is gone with everybody
[12:09] <BluesKaj> these users can't see the nicklist somehow I guess
[12:12] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: taking a look, 1 min
[12:12] <vzz> or maybe first enter to irc
[12:13] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: is uefi mode on in the bios and csm legacy disabled?
[12:14] <lucky-bloop> thanks EriC^^! In the BIOS I have a choice between UEFI and Legacy modes and I'm using UEFI
[12:15] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: what model pc is it?
[12:16] <skinux> Where is the default Java 10 JVM location? NetBeans can't find it anywhere
[12:16] <lucky-bloop> It's an Acer R3-131T, a cheap travel laptop
[12:16] <oerheks> bionic gives java 8 + 11
[12:17] <oerheks> !find openjdk
[12:17] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: aha, try to set the Administrator password in the bios, and see if it gives you more uefi related options, it might say "trust file" or so choose that and then choose the ubuntu efi file shimx64.efi
[12:17] <skinux> !find openjdk-10
[12:17] <skinux> !find openjdk-9
[12:17] <lucky-bloop> I was previously running Ubuntu 16.04 and made a Clonezilla clone before the clean install but I haven't been able to restore and boot that clone either
[12:17] <skinux> !find openjdk-8
[12:18] <skinux> !find openjdk-8-jre
[12:18] <skinux> Hmm
[12:18] <MisterJei> Hello. I am working on a ARM board with a build of Ubuntu (not a Pi, but similar.) I am using a UART connection to connect. I'm able to get the boot messages, but once the bootconsole is disabled, I can't get a getty running. (There is no official support channel for the board as far as I know.) Anyone able to help me troubleshoot?
[12:19] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: if you hold shift when the pc boots, do you get a grub screen?
[12:19] <oerheks> MisterJei, maybe this page is a help https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/arm64/ch05s01.html
[12:20] <MisterJei> Thanks oerheks, I'll take a look and see if it helps me get unstuck. (I am having trouble even getting a ttySX device to properly connect to the uart, so it's a peculiar case.)
[12:21] <lucky-bloop> No, I can't get to the grub menu by holding shift. In the BIOS I haven't been able to see any of the file system. In the boot order list I see Linpus Lite but it's not getting me anywhere.
[12:21] <MisterJei> Yeah, I already have the console= line (and this actually gets me much further than without it - more of the boot process). I'm still having trouble getting a proper device (though the hardware clearly works since I'm getting the boot messages)
[12:22] <MisterJei> The ttySX devices are reporting as unknown with irq 0 at the moment
[12:22] <lucky-bloop> In the past I've seen shimx64.efi in that boot list but not since trying a clean install of 18.04
[12:22] <skinux> I wasn't looking for how to install. Java 11 is installed..I can't find the right Java home
[12:23] <jbetz> tomreyn: wrt to the locales proble, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales` generated the locale I need, but it still hasn't solved my problem
[12:23] <leftyfb> skinux: echo $JAVA_HOME
[12:23] <oerheks> skinux, set your environment? see step #3 https://tecadmin.net/install-oracle-java-8-ubuntu-via-ppa/
[12:23] <skinux> It's empty
[12:23] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, depending on the hardware, there may not be native support for them in the kernel. Do you know their model?
[12:24] <jbetz> possibly relevant, `locale -a` returns `en_US.utf8` in the result list, but in other places I see it written as `en_US.UTF-8`
[12:24] <vzz> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.8.0-openjdk ?
[12:24] <MisterJei> JimBuntu, Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. It's a uart built into the board GPIO - the board is ROC-RK3328-CC (Firefly Renegade).
[12:25] <lucky-bloop> Also, I'm confident that it's not a deeper hardware problem because I've been able to restore a Windows 10 clone to the same machine. But both times I've tried clean Ubuntu installs it's failed.
[12:27] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: can you boot a live usb right now to troubleshoot?
[12:28] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, Did you use the image that libre supplies?
[12:28] <AppAraat> omg, when is Ubuntu stop going to provide me locale based on where I selected the timezone from?
[12:28] <vzz> yeah sad story
[12:29] <MisterJei> JimUbuntu, yes, but then I had to rebuild uboot to change the baudrate. I also tried rebuilding the kernel and turning on a few other features but no luck so far.
[12:29] <JimBuntu> Is that image using Kernel 4.9?
[12:29] <MisterJei> Hmm, oh, wait, actually, I'm using the Firefly build, which may differ from the Libre Computer one...
[12:29] <lucky-bloop> Yes, jumping into a live boot now, thanks!
[12:30] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, I think the libre one is the same, I see an updated date of July 17th.
[12:30] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, http://share.loverpi.com/board/libre-computer-project/libre-computer-board-roc-rk3328-cc/image/ubuntu/
[12:30] <MisterJei> Maybe, but the kernel version was reporting 4.4 before, so I wonder if they are out of sync
[12:31] <MisterJei> I'll try that. Thanks!
[12:31] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, I'm wondering if you would need to go with 4.9. The specs I was reading said it was fully supported by 4.9 upstream, but it looks like they are giving 4.4, unsure if it's been patched or not though.
[12:31] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: I'm in a live boot terminal now. What should I try?
[12:31] <MisterJei> Yeah, the weird thing is, everything is fine until boot is done, then I can't get to the device (looks like ttySX isn't set up)
[12:32] <MisterJei> Hmm, I'm using the debugging uart, (RX/TX 2), I wonder if that would be related...
[12:32] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls -lR /mnt/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:32] <skinux> I just followed those instructions, netbeans still says it cannot find java home
[12:33] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, http://forum.loverpi.com/discussion/107/ch340-driver
[12:35] <MisterJei> Ah, this looks very useful! Thank you. :)
[12:35] <MisterJei> I appreciate the help JimBuntu
[12:35] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: Cool, here's the output: http://termbin.com/atmk
[12:36] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: type "sudo blkid /dev/sda1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:37] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, and finally... http://roc-rk3328-cc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/debug.html
[12:38] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: Here's that output: http://termbin.com/y0ox
[12:38] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, ha, it defaults to 1.5Mb 8/N/1 I hope this info helps
[12:38] <MisterJei> Yeah, I have read through the docs page... unfortunately not terribly helpful. :D But with luck the ch340 driver link will help!
[12:39] <MisterJei> Yeah, I already had to rebuild uboot to change the baud rate :D
[12:39] <MisterJei> It does, and thanks
[12:39] <JimBuntu> MisterJei, yw
[12:39] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: ok, type "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot && sudo cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi"
[12:42] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: Time to try rebooting, right?
[12:43] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: yes
[12:43] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: This is soo helpful, thank you!!!
[12:44] <EriC^^> all good?
[12:44] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: it worked?
[12:46] <qwebirc33681> Hi! Would anyone be able to help me get ubuntu 18.04 installed on my new laptop? I've downloaded and verified the iso, created a usb boot stick and the laptop boots and can get as far as network selection before it freezes. I've tried booting using nomodeset and noacpi, I've also tried adding 'intel_idle.max_cstate=1 ' but it's made no difference. My hardware according to the manufacturer is as follows: Intel® i7-8550U, Corsa
[12:46] <qwebirc33681> Intel HD Graphics 610/620/630 (CPU Dependant) - 1.7GB Max DDR4 Video RAM - DirectX 12, WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD. Any ideas? :)
[12:46] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: Hmm not quite. It's still not booting but I can see "Windows Boot Manager" as a boot option now.
[12:47] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: is that booting it? can you select it as the default boot option?
[12:52] <xfceone> try to install Centos7 in VirtualBox,base system Ubuntu 18.04 but hangs at"Performing post-installation setup tasks"
[12:53] <xfceone> on Centos channel said that VirtualBox is the problem
[12:56] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: If I try booting usign the new Windows boot option, I see error messages about failing to open and load \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\mnx64.efi and \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\grubx64.efi also MokManager is not found and start_image() returned Not Found
[12:57] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: ok, try to boot the live usb again
[12:57] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: i forgot if you mentioned, did you try setting the adminstrator password and saw if new options appeared?
[12:58] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: Do I need to copy my grubx64.efi into that new microsoft directory?
[12:58] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: that might help yeah
[12:59] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: I tried changing and setting admin and user passwords in the BIOS but didn't see any more options
[12:59] <EriC^^> ok
[12:59] <wtflol> do n1ggers use ubuntu?
[13:08] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: Okay, back into the live boot terminal, what do you recommend?
[13:10] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: try to copy grubx64.efi
[13:10] <leftyfb> !op wtflol
[13:10] <leftyfb> !op |wtflol
[13:15] <AdamDay109> thanks leftyfb
[13:15] <AdamDay109> I couldn't remember the command :/
[13:16] <woopdoppod> hi, how can I kill pulseaudio? I tried "pulseuadio --kill" as well as "killall -9 pulseaudio" (even as root) but it keeps coming back.
[13:17] <woopdoppod> (18.04)
[13:17] <woopdoppod> has pulseaudio become immortal in 18.04?
[13:18] <leftyfb> woopdoppod: it's probably a service
[13:20] <woopdoppod> leftyfb: "service --status-all |grep -i pulse" doesn't return anything
[13:21] <lucky-bloop> EriC^^: THANK YOU! It works, I'm back into my own grub after like 2 weeks of fussing. Creating the microsoft directory and copying grubx64.efi did the trick! Great to know about termbin.com too, I've never used that before. Many thanks!!!
[13:21] <EriC^^> lucky-bloop: great, good to hear, no problem
[13:22] <Pici> thanks leftyfb ;)
[13:22] <BluesKaj> woopdoppod, what's the issue with pulseaudio?
[13:23] <woopdoppod> BluesKaj: I like to disable it so I can restart it as a jack sink
[13:24] <leftyfb> woopdoppod: https://askubuntu.com/questions/15223/how-can-i-restart-pulseaudio-without-logout
[13:26] <woopdoppod> I'd like to have audio interface -> ALSA -> JACK -> PA kind of deal going on, but for that I have to kill pulse
[13:26] <slipttees> Hi guys
[13:26] <woopdoppod> leftyfb: tried that: https://bpaste.net/show/c7ef78983f8e
[13:26] <slipttees> Error loading theme icon 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' for stock and 'gtk-go-back-ltr on firefox
[13:27] <slipttees> gtk 2.24.32
[13:27] <slipttees> :-(
[13:28] <slipttees> i try update-mime-datebase  :-(
[13:32] <tomreyn> slipttees: what are you trying to do, and why? which ubuntu release are you running?
[13:33] <leonardus> whenever I click on this one window in the taskbar on the left, it drags instead of making the window active
[13:33] <leonardus> what can I do to fix this?
[13:33] <slipttees> tomreyn: 18.04
[13:33] <slipttees> tomreyn: back and forward firefox x11-dev are missing
[13:34] <tomreyn> slipttees: i don't understand "back and forward firefox x11-dev are missing", can you write a full sentence?
[13:35] <slipttees> tomreyn: navegation button are missing
[13:37] <tomreyn> slipttees: are you saying that firefox lacks navigation icons on the default gnome3 desktop of ubuntu 18.04? running X or wayland?
[13:38] <slipttees> tomreyn: old firefox use gtk2
[13:39] <tomreyn> slipttees: meaning?
[13:39] <andi_646> I'm looking for docker-ce ubuntu 16.04 package
[13:39] <andi_646> https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/xenial/pool/stable/amd64/
[13:39] <andi_646> looks like it got removed even though docs say 16.04 is supported ?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> slipttees: we need more details of you, are you trying a theme, trying an older firefox? what are you doing?
[13:40] <slipttees> !paste
[13:42] <tomreyn> andi_646: you seem to be asking a question about software hosted at download.docker.com in #ubuntu - maybe this question would better fit in #docker
[13:42] <tomreyn> !details | leonardus
[13:42] <andi_218> tomreyn: yes I will ask them
[13:43] <m2_teknix> Shortcut to apply filter in LibreCalc. Like in MS-Excel, we can do
[13:43] <m2_teknix> "Ctr + Shift + L" on windows
[13:44] <m2_teknix> Shortcut to apply filter in LibreCalc. Like in MS-Excel, we can do "Ctrl + Shift + L" on MS excel in windows
[13:44] <tomreyn> m2_teknix: is this a statement, or a question?
[13:45] <rgvon>  Please suggest a time-tracking app where I can manually add entries.I tried Time Log but it only tracks the time spent on computer.I am using Kubuntu 18.04.
[13:45] <m2_teknix> tomreyn: a question. Is there a shiretcut to apply auto filer in Libre calc?
[13:45] <slipttees> lotuspsychje: i need run old firefox here 'cause old system run java etc. i installed gtk2-engines so firefox missing this 2 icons for menu bar.
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> m2_teknix: there is a nice #libreoffice channel if you like
[13:45] <m2_teknix> lotuspsychje: Thanks :)
[13:46] <tomreyn> m2_teknix: oh, this question is a lot more understandable now.
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> slipttees: we dont really support outdated packages, its also a security risk to use it..
[13:47] <slipttees> lotuspsychje: Is not firefox problem... my proble is gtk 2.22.34
[13:47] <slipttees> rsrs
[13:47] <tomreyn> slipttees: consider running an old ubuntu release which still supports the java web browser plugin in a VM.
[13:48] <tomreyn> slipttees: support wont last much longer there, though.
[13:48] <slipttees> lotuspsychje: https://imgur.com/a/8TO4XwR
[13:48] <slipttees> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/8TO4XwR
[13:49] <slipttees> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DtrzGJQt8m/
[13:49] <slipttees> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DtrzGJQt8m/
[13:51] <tomreyn> slipttees: running firefox versions which are not the one in the same ubuntu version you have installed is not supported here.
[13:52] <tomreyn> slipttees: are you saying that this is the firefox version which comes with your ubuntu release?
[13:52] <slipttees> tomreyn: No. Older firefox
[13:52] <tomreyn> slipttees: okay, that's not supported, good luck.
[13:52] <slipttees> tomreyn: Thanks (y)
[13:53] <slipttees> gtk cant read svg :
[13:53] <slipttees> :-/
[13:54] <boxrick> Good afternoon folks, I am currently looking to replace ifupdown / netplan on bionic and xenial and use networkd to get some consistency in the config
[13:54] <boxrick> Is there a set of reference or commands which work well for checking networkd status?
[13:54] <Shiva187> Hello good morning, was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction why I can't access my Windows Workgroup. All the other computers in the network display the network fine the only computer with the issue is mine running Ubuntu 18.04. I have downloaded Samba Client and dependencies still can't connect i get "Failed to retrieve share list from server. No such file or directory"
[13:55] <boxrick> In my particular case a bit of dhcp config wont work
[13:55] <boxrick> 101 eth0             ether              routable    configured
[13:55] <boxrick> 103 eth1             ether              degraded    configuring
[13:55] <boxrick> I need to see why it is degraded
[13:57] <tomreyn> Shiva187: how did you "download [and install] Samba Client and depednencies"?
[13:57] <blackflow> boxrick: there's the journal and you can filter by systemd-networkd.service. the usual dmesg for kernel messages too.
[13:57] <Shiva187> tomreyn: through terminal did "sudo apt-get install smbclient" and "sudo apt-get install samba"
[13:58] <boxrick> Cheers blackflow
[13:58] <boxrick> So just logged in the journal as usual then really
[13:59] <tomreyn> Shiva187: so when you say you are trying to "access [the] Windows Workgroup" and "display the network", are you referring to network shares?
[13:59] <tomreyn> the error message seems to suggest so.
[14:00] <Shiva187> Yes, we have a "Server" that we get like scanned documents from etc
[14:00] <blackflow> boxrick: yes, for example    journalctl -u systemd-networkd.service
[14:00] <boxrick> Seems there is a stub command also
[14:00] <boxrick> 'networkctl status eth1'
[14:00] <tomreyn> Shiva187: i'm not actually sure how share discovery works. but if you know the name of the share you should be able to loist files on it using smbclient, or using a cifs mount.
[14:01] <skinux> Maybe someone can refresh my memory. I want to keep /var/www/html permissions as they are, but add to them so that my user account can write/delete as well.
[14:02] <blackflow> boxrick: yes, but I thought you knew about it, given the output you posted, that looks like output of networkctl list
[14:02] <tomreyn> Shiva187: apparently nmblookup can be used to discover shares (if you don't know the exact names): https://serverfault.com/questions/160396/listing-available-smb-shares-on-a-network-through-the-command-line-in-linux
[14:02] <boxrick> Yea it is, but seems it doesn't help much either.
[14:03] <boxrick> Oddly nothing in the journal why this interface is degraded
[14:03] <boxrick> Not very helpful
[14:03] <Shiva187> thanks tomreyn
[14:04] <blackflow> boxrick: well what does networkctl status eth1 show?
[14:04] <blackflow> boxrick: and btw, if you're gonna use the old ethX naming, you better lock them down with some matching on MAC addr
[14:05] <boxrick> This is a container, so its all pretty normal naming
[14:05] <Shiva187> hmm tomreyn keep getting name_query failed to find name
[14:05] <tomreyn> Shiva187: maybe try smbtree, as discussed on this page i linked to, too.
[14:06] <blackflow> boxrick: what container tech?
[14:06] <boxrick> LXD3.2
[14:07] <blackflow> boxrick: I'm not really sure ethX is specific or normal to LXD
[14:07] <boxrick> Its quite normal.
[14:07] <boxrick> Even more confusing is running 'dhclient' everything springs to life, I wonder if the networkd setup is a little funny in xenial
[14:08] <yn> \o/ https://www.humblebundle.com/books/linux-geek-books
[14:08] <blackflow> boxrick: iirc networkd doesn't need dhclient. if you're also using dhclient, there may be a conflict
[14:08] <Shiva187> tomreyn: it returns nothing :/
[14:08] <boxrick> I imagine it just reverts back to ifupdown
[14:09] <boxrick> Anyway, I will have more of a play
[14:09] <Shiva187> tomreyn: i did mblookup WOKRGROUP but only mine shows up
[14:11] <tomreyn> Shiva187: hmm, sorry, i don't know then. i usually know the shares and can refer to them directly.
[14:11] <ioria> Shiva187, try  ' client max protocol = NT1  '  (without quotes) in smb.conf  [global] section
[14:12] <ioria> Shiva187,  and restart smbd and nmbd
[14:14] <slipttees> tomreyn: I fixed....
[14:14] <Shiva187> ok ioria
[14:15] <slipttees> tomreyn: install tango-icon-theme and edit my defauilt index.theme with Inherits=Tango. Fix older firefox icons
[14:15] <slipttees> :D :D :D
[14:18] <slipttees> lotuspsychje: fixed . Installed tango-icon-theme and edit my default index.theme with Inherits=Tango. Fix older firefox icons :D
[14:20] <Shiva187> Ok tomreyn well I found the ip of the computer I want to connect and now its asking for a username/password to access. It is not setup to require a username/password to access it
[14:22] <aidrocsids> woot usrshv it all worked. that drive that kept going ro is in rough shape, but I managed to expand the partition on the xubuntu install and now I can update it
[14:23] <aidrocsids> took 9 he's or something to move everything over 60gb lol
[14:23] <aidrocsids> *hours
[14:30] <tomreyn> Shiva187: you may still need to provide a username using -U
[14:30] <donofrio> how to make a livedvd/usb from a existing install? (got machine with dead hd but everything works wonderfully so I'd like to livedvd the working setup then just enjoy it when I need it)
[14:31] <tomreyn> Shiva187: there is also --no-pass apparently
[14:32] <oerheks> i have this weird setting knob on the top let corner, chrome 67.0.3396.99   https://imgur.com/a/5w5Lt04
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> slipttees: its still not supported and your system can get affected like this, see !usn
[14:32] <oerheks> c/left
[14:32] <donofrio> Cubic looks close
[14:33] <oerheks> donofrio, there is no to to convert an install to live iso
[14:33] <oerheks> you are not the 1st one to ask
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: looks like an enable/disable button, does it toggle when touch?
[14:33] <oerheks> no toggle, lotuspsychje , do you see it too?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: new feature or addon button?
[14:34] <MisterJei> JimBuntu, ok, making another pass. I'm trying to figure out if there is any meaningful difference between this ch34x.c file and the one that is in the mainline kernel (ch341.c). It looks like the mainline one has more recent updates. (I compiled that into my most recent build)
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: i only have chromium here
[14:35] <tomreyn> oerheks: apparently this is part of the web page (does the html source code provide context?). it might be a privacy warning, with the rest of the warning hiodden by some kind of cookie law prompt (nuisance) type ad blocker.
[14:37] <oerheks> i do not find it in the source of the page
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: this only happens on that 'last visited' tabs?
[14:43] <oerheks> no, always, just cleaned history and such
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: could it be related to settings/show 'homepage' button?
[14:43] <oerheks> no
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: the button looks like a settings button right?
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> checked on chromium its lookalike
[14:47] <oerheks> i wait untill someone else with chrome can answer, https://imgur.com/a/5w5Lt04
[14:49] <leftyfb> oerheks: I have the same version chrome installed and don't have that. Extension?
[14:50] <JimBuntu> oerheks, I am using the same version, I don't have that toggle
[14:50] <oerheks> maybe an extention, i am removing chrome now, and clean .config and .cache
[14:50] <leftyfb> you know that won't work right?
[14:51] <leftyfb> oerheks: your extensions are loaded with your google profile. As soon as you login to google, all your extensions will be pulled down again
[14:51] <leftyfb> oerheks: google-chrome --disable-extensions --disable-plugins
[14:51] <oerheks> and it is gone ...
[14:51]  * oerheks worries
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> browser injection :p
[14:52] <oerheks> i reported to google, so lets wait and see, if more find this switch
[14:52] <oerheks> lotuspsychje, yes, i think so too
[14:52] <fub> Hi. Using ubuntu18.04 with i3 here. Is it possible that when I use ssh the first time when booted, I get a password prompt to add my key to the ssh agent?
[14:52] <fub> because currently Im doing an ssh-add every time after I logged in
[14:53] <oerheks> fub, your client might ask that, yes
[14:53] <blackflow> fub: yes, are you using xinitrc or something? the trick is to start i3 through ssh-agent
[14:54] <fub> blackflow: my i3 is started over gdm (thats where I log in)
[14:54] <blackflow> fub: although, that's a half-yes to your question. meaning, you start through ssh-agent, and you need to ssh-add your key once
[14:55] <fub> blackflow: Im currently doing ssh-add once before I use ssh
[14:55] <blackflow> fub: so ssh-agent is actually already running?
[14:55] <fub> but would be nice if "ssh foo@bar" is aware to do this one time
[14:56] <fub> blackflow: yes ssh-agent is runing
[14:57] <fub> looks like gdm-session-worker started i3 and this started ssh-agent
[14:58] <oerheks> and .. the knob is back
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> oO
[14:58] <tsglove> lol
[14:58] <ikonia> problem ?
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: cant you inspect it somehow
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: oerheks got a weird knob at left corner in chrome
[14:59] <ikonia> ineresting
[14:59] <oerheks> ikonia, top left corner https://imgur.com/a/5w5Lt04
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> cant find anything related in google pics
[15:00] <oerheks> reinstalled with clearing .cache and .config, ghostery plugin and ublock
[15:00] <JimBuntu> oerheks, Does it also appear when using incognito?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> JimBuntu: nice idea
[15:01] <JimBuntu> oerheks, Did this process also remove your frequently visited items (the thumbs of web pages) ?
[15:01] <oerheks> and persist with all extentions removed
[15:02] <oerheks> JimBuntu, incognito, there is no switch
[15:02] <JimBuntu> oerheks, another option is to go to settings -> People and add another user, don't sign-in though, then check with that new user which doesn't have access to your account/history/etc
[15:03] <oerheks> there is no way to select that knob so i can spot it in the source :-(
[15:03] <oerheks> other account does it too.. odd
[15:05] <oerheks> i am going to reboot
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: only i could find on homescreen was: https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/06/a2hs-updates
[15:10] <MrGobler> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER MrGobler qgjjlrvvbuou
[15:10] <JimBuntu> MrGobler, change your pass
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: i still think its related to a new feature of some kind..
[15:10] <oerheks>  2nd machine, 18/04, no problems..
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: a malicious item, would never show a gui object right?
[15:11] <JimBuntu> oerheks, can you screencap it while using the other user please
[15:11] <oerheks> i am nt sure, it is not a glitch.
[15:11] <JimBuntu> oerheks, well, perhaps the toggle wasn't intended to be shown... but oops.
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: can you fight with about:config ?
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> perhaps something homepage related?
[15:13] <oerheks> when i log out: still there https://imgur.com/a/QMnXjGv
[15:13] <oerheks> is this a hint from google, to upgrade to 18.04?
[15:14] <JimBuntu> I have a lurking suspicion it is caused by one of those 8 websites being auto-scraped to show you the preview
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/05/nic67
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> could it be related to those new webapps system perhaps, add to homepage?
[15:17] <rgvon> Hello,I am unable to download Project Hamster;tried to add repositories from here https://launchpad.net/~dylanmccall/+archive/ubuntu/hamster-time-tracker-git-daily but unable to add, bash: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zw6Zwh8wtn/ (Kubuntu 18.04)
[15:18] <rgvon> I have also tried to install from here https://github.com/projecthamster/hamster ,downloaded stable releases and extracted them and also dependencies but not sure what to do next.
[15:18] <ikonia> rgvon: it means there isn't a package for bionic
[15:19] <rgvon> ikonia, so that means I won't be able to use it on Kubuntu 18.04?
[15:19] <JimBuntu> rgvon, ikonia Confirmed, only 12.04 -> 14.10
[15:19] <ikonia> correct
[15:20] <oerheks> lotuspsychje, photo of both https://imgur.com/a/X4ORlBm
[15:21] <rgvon> ikonia, JimBuntu, can you suggest some time tracking app? I have tried Time Log.
[15:21] <ikonia> not I
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: weird
[15:22] <JimBuntu> rgvon, Toggl
[15:23] <rgvon> JimBuntu, thanks,do you know any free and open source alternatives?
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> rgvon: you can search apt with: apt-cache search time
[15:24] <JimBuntu> rgvon, https://alternativeto.net/software/toggl/?license=opensource    <-- that's about the best I can add
[15:24] <takeme> hello there is a tutorial of linux?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> !manual | takeme yes
[15:25] <rgvon> lotuspsychje, thanks,a lot came up
[15:26] <rgvon> JimBuntu, thank you
[15:26] <JimBuntu> rgvon, yw
[15:26] <jim> takeme, go to youtube.com, search for nixie pixel beginning linux
[15:26] <jim> actually let me try that
[15:27] <takeme> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX3VOiMBtaA
[15:28] <takeme> girl want to show me Breast milk
[15:28] <ikonia> takeme: not here
[15:28] <ikonia> this is an ubuntu technical support channel
[15:29] <takeme> jim: ?
[15:30] <gehn> my changes to /etc/default/grub don't appear to have any effect
[15:30] <gehn> I ran sudo update-grub after saving the file
[15:30] <gehn> but on reboot, everything is the same as it was, for example I changed the timeout setting but the timeout is still the old value
[15:30] <gehn> the grub screen says I'm on grub 2.02
[15:31] <gehn> I do have a UEFI system and I confirmed that I did boot/install in UEFI mode
[15:31] <gehn> any ideas what is wrong or what I'm missing here?
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: we need you ^
[15:35] <EriC^^> gehn: try adding "GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT" at the bottom below GRUB_TIMEOUT and update-grub
[15:36] <gehn> well the timeout is not really what I wanted to change
[15:36] <gehn> I want to save the previous boot selection
[15:36] <gehn> the timeout part is just an example of how I can generally confirm that the setting change is not taking effect
[15:37] <EriC^^> gehn: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[15:38] <AyudaKodiAndroid> Alguien que sepa como agregar tipos de fuentes (letras) para que las use Kodi?
[15:38] <rgvon> ikonia,Jimbuntu Is it possible to download Project Hamster from here? https://github.com/projecthamster/hamster I downloaded and extracted the stable versions and dependencies,not sure what to do next.There are instructions for building but they return "no such file or directory"
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> !es | AyudaKodiAndroid
[15:39] <ImageJPEG> So I'm trying to setup a startup script that doesn't need to be a fancy systemd script. It just needs to start when the server starts up. I've created the rc.local file and scripts. Everything seems to be fine execpt the actual script to launch my app. I'll post the script in just a second
[15:39] <AyudaKodiAndroid> Gracias
[15:40] <gehn> grub.cfg https://pastebin.com/wd0W8aaH
[15:40] <gehn> default grub https://pastebin.com/Jh5Vtnqv
[15:40] <gehn> EriC^^,
[15:40] <ImageJPEG> This is the script:
[15:40] <ImageJPEG> https://ghostbin.com/paste/tn37j
[15:41] <ImageJPEG> If I execute the script directly (not from rc.local) I receive this error: /usr/bin/env: 'node': No such file or directory
[15:41] <EriC^^> gehn: try making a simpler edit than the timeout cause that fails to change many times, or in grub shell troubleshoot stuff by doing "echo $prefix" and see which actual file is being loaded
[15:41] <gehn> what edit could be simpler than changing timeout?
[15:41] <gehn> also what is grub shell and how do I access it?
[15:42] <gehn> I assume that's something I get to when I see the grub screen upon boot?
[15:42] <EriC^^> gehn: yeah, press "c" in grub and you'll get the shell
[15:42] <gehn> also btw I did change more than timeout
[15:42] <gehn> I changed GRUB_DEFAULT and GRUB_SAVE_DEFAULT
[15:42] <gehn> and is it $prefix or $PREFIX ?
[15:42] <EriC^^> lowercase
[15:42] <gehn> ok
[15:42] <gehn> brb
[15:45] <XenophonF> how do I interrupt a UEFI boot on bionic?
[15:46] <JimBuntu> rgvon, This isn't exactly an Ubuntu support question ( I don't think ), but it looks like they have a 2.0-rc1 release as a .deb that you could 'dpkg -i filename' to install
[15:46] <XenophonF> I need to add a kernel command line argument, but I can't seem to interrupt grub.
[15:46] <nishikant> today i just reinstall ubuntu 18.04 but not able to open system setting from top right corner and couldnt find it in app menu
[15:46] <XenophonF> I can get to the UEFI boot manager, but I'm not sure where to go from there.
[15:47] <EriC^^> XenophonF: does holding shift or esc bring grub? is fastboot disabled?
[15:48] <rgvon> JimBuntu,sorry for asking off-topic,thanks,I will try it.
[15:48] <XenophonF> Let me check the fastboot setting.  I'll try holding Shift or ESC too.
[15:51] <gehn> EriC^^, ok so the timeout does take effect, but saving the previous boot selection does not
[15:51] <gehn> also $prefix is /boot/grub
[16:00] <gehn> EriC^^, I'm approximately 99% positive that my changes are correct, at least that's what I have in my notes and it's what I've been using for several years now when I reinstall fresh and previous boot selection save has been working fine until now
[16:00]  * linux_user2 just installed Ubuntu 18.04 and it has all these snap filesystems, what are they and how do I get rid of them?
[16:00] <XenophonF> EriC^^: holding Shift didn't work - trying ESC next
[16:00] <gehn> though I built a new system a few days ago
[16:01] <gehn> so maybe grub doesn't like UEFI or M.2 NVMe for some reason?
[16:01] <XenophonF> That got me to a `grub> ` prompt
[16:04] <XenophonF> only "ubuntu" is listed in the EFI boot manager
[16:05] <XenophonF> I dunno - will try booting from USB. I just need to reset the admin password.
[16:05] <XenophonF> was hoping to boot with init=/bin/sh
[16:10] <qwebirc2895> hello
[16:11] <qwebirc2895> I'm using Xenial (16.04) and I'm confused about installing software via a GUI. I know I can use apt install to install the official packages from the terminal, but shouldn't those same packages also show up when I search using the Ubuntu Software GUI program? I mean doesn't the name kind of imply that, it is the program for finding and installing software for Ubuntu?
[16:13] <gehn> I even tried sudo grub-set-default && sudo update-grub
[16:13] <gehn> but still the previous selection won't save
[16:14] <nacc> linux_user2: snaps are another packaging format, some are installed by default. You can uninstall them, but they do no harm in and oft themselves
[16:14] <JimBuntu> qwebirc2895, I would expect you to be able to find the same items... depending on how you have software center set up... as in, what repos it can pull from
[16:14] <nacc> linux_user2: also, please don't use /me in the channel for questions, it's hard to follow.
[16:15] <nacc> qwebirc2895: JimBuntu there have been bugs in this space, but it should mostly work, yes.
[16:16] <JimBuntu> qwebirc2895, You may want to start Software Center, then click on Edit -> Software Sources from the file medu, so you can make sure the repos you want are selected.
[16:17] <qwebirc2895> Actually I don't seem to have a Software Center, or an Ubuntu Software Center. I only have a program called Ubuntu Software. Is that the same thing?
[16:17] <JimBuntu> Yeah, sorry, forgot the name changes
[16:17] <qwebirc2895> The behavior of it seems to be it only works with snaps, which is not what I was expecting
[16:18] <linux_user2> nacc: yes, I just don't want a zillion loop filesystems mounted though want all the packages my system has. any work around to accomplish those requirements?
[16:18] <linux_user2> brb - grabbing my laundry
[16:18] <nacc> qwebirc2895: when it's running and you do `ps aux | grep software` does gnome-software show up?
[16:18] <nacc> linux_user2: why do you care if you have loop filesystems mounted?
[16:18] <nacc> linux_user2: snaps require loopback mounting, so if you wnat snaps, then no.
[16:20] <qwebirc2895> nacc: yes, it shows up as /usr/bin/gnome-software --gapplication-service
[16:22] <hispeed_m> Hi, my ubuntu server 18.04 is suddenly freezing: the last log line in syslog ist mostly showing this: ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^$
[16:22] <nacc> qwebirc2895: ok, then that's the correct program
[16:22] <qwebirc2895> For example, if I search for HexChat, it shows up, but it has an option to install it. But I already installed it via apt. But this program does not indicate that or give me an option to uninstall it
[16:23] <compdoc> hispeed_m, that log is probably normal
[16:23] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: you would uninstall it via apt
[16:23] <marcel> zjf
[16:23] <nacc> qwebirc2895: on 18.04, they may have fixed the bug you are referring to; it shows two hexchats now
[16:23] <hispeed_m> compdoc can I get more out from the logs? why it happens?
[16:23] <nacc> qwebirc2895: i'm not 100% if that is still a problem on 16.04
[16:24] <compdoc> hispeed_m, some logs cant be read, but try others/
[16:24] <hispeed_m> it was running fine for about 1-2 weeks. then i installed:  apt install kopano-migration-pst and the problem started.
[16:25] <hispeed_m> sudo apt-get remove kopano-migration-pst <- I have done that and rebooted but it doesn't help.
[16:25] <nacc> hispeed_m: you might need to purge it?
[16:25] <nacc> !info kopano-migration-pst bionic
[16:26] <nacc> hispeed_m: also not an ubuntu package, so who knows what else you've done :)
[16:26] <qwebirc2895> Hm. It is looking like this conforms my suspiciousn then, at least for this version of Ubuntu, I should use Ubuntu Software for snaps and terminal apt for apt stuff...
[16:26] <qwebirc2895> But I still want to find out if there are any exceptions where I can use the GUI instead of the terminal
[16:26] <qwebirc2895> So I already confirmed I can't use it to uninstall apt stuff, but I wonder about for searching.
[16:26] <hispeed_m> its from the groupware Kopano and they released it for 18.04 i don't think its from this package.
[16:27] <nacc> qwebirc2895: i mean you can install/remove snaps from the terminal too
[16:27] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: synaptic
[16:27] <nacc> qwebirc2895: and search for ana pplication that does not have a snap and see if it shows up?
[16:27] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: a gui for apt stuff
[16:27] <qwebirc2895> Here is an example where I am having problems. In the terminal if I run 'terminator', it says The program 'terminator' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt install terminator
[16:28] <nacc> hispeed_m: my point being you installed something not ubuntu, and your system stopped working as you wanted. So remove that. And remove the things that installed (you'd need to use autoremove). I'd recommend purge-ing.
[16:28] <qwebirc2895> But if I search Ubuntu Software, it does not show up
[16:29] <linux_user2> nacc: I do NOT want snaps, what I want is all the packages I have now for them to be installed absent the need for these snaps filesystems. Is that possible or do I need to consider a different distribution now?
[16:29] <nacc> linux_user2: ok, then remove the snaps.
[16:29] <nacc> linux_user2: you will lose some applications.
[16:29] <nacc> linux_user2: you say 'packages' like you know what you're talking about, but snaps are just packages in a different format.
[16:29] <hispeed_m> nacc i have done now autoremove for the dependencies but now i have to wait a couple hours or minutes... maybe it's already fine thanks. -> Can I purge after if it's not fine?
[16:29] <nacc> hispeed_m: you can purge after, yes.
[16:30] <nacc> linux_user2: you still haven't said *why* you don't want snaps, so there's that as well
[16:30] <nacc> qwebirc2895: i see the same behavior on 18.04
[16:30] <xjkx> I always used LTS, I'd like to test the other one (so, not .04, but .10), but seems 17.10 expires this month. Is it senseless to install 17.10 then? Is the new 18.10 already available, even if not 100% stable yet? I'm gathering information to decide better
[16:30] <hispeed_m> ok thanks nacc :=) i wait now and look what happens, I hope nothing happens :D.
[16:30] <donofrio> this doesn't sound good "(process:1510): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: 11:51:30.682: g_credentials_get_unix_pid: assertion 'G_IS_CREDENTIALS (credentials)' failed" when I try to run browsh
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> xjkx: artful expires today
[16:30] <xjkx> lol
[16:30] <nacc> xjkx: it is senseless, yes.
[16:31] <xjkx> So tomorrow we get 18.10?
[16:31] <linux_user2> nacc: who cares why? I do not want to be convinced why I am wrong, I simply don't want a zillion loop filesystems, I have my reasons, but that is why. If I am forced to have snaps to retain the package mix I have currently installed and it can't be done with repos like in the past then I need to investigate other distributions now, sucks, as I liked Ubuntu.
[16:31] <qwebirc2895> gogeta: I guess i will try that synaptic then as an alternative GUI
[16:31] <nacc> xjkx: you can install 18.10, but i really wouldn't recommend it pre-alpha (or beta), unless you know what you are doing.
[16:31] <nacc> linux_user2: because you are acting irrationally
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> xjkx: no, you can upgrade to 18.04
[16:31] <nacc> linux_user2: if you don't have a reason, it's hard to know if you actually need to care
[16:31] <linux_user2> nacc: I am not asking for you to analyze my psychology, I am asking you if I can have the packages I want without snap filesystems, period, yes or no?
[16:32] <nacc> linux_user2: and 'zillion' is an incredible over-exaggeration.
[16:32] <nacc> linux_user2: it depends on the *application* i think.
[16:32] <nacc> linux_user2: again, use the correct terminology and we can try and help.
[16:32] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: if its in your repos then synaptic can install it
[16:32] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: or remove whatever
[16:32] <xjkx> nacc: yea i know what I'm doing, I have another one stable, it would be more for testing, so how do I get this alpha
[16:32] <nacc> xjkx: 18.10 will be out in october, per the nameing
[16:33] <nacc> xjkx: just like anything else? also #ubuntu+1 for info
[16:33] <nacc> linux_user2: i will say, if you relaly don't like snaps, then yes, ubuntu is probably not for you long-term (at least under the current roadmap)
[16:33] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: its handy for things not in the app store
[16:34] <nacc> linux_user2: which is why it would be nice if you had any actual reason for not wanting snaps, etc.
[16:35] <qwebirc2895> So if I find something to install via apt and I don't need to add a ppa to install it, I pretty much trust it, but do I have to be more careful with snaps installed through Ubuntu Software?
[16:36] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: synaptic reads any repo you have enabled
[16:36] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: any ppas etc
[16:36] <nacc> qwebirc2895: snaps are an interesting case
[16:36] <nacc> qwebirc2895: they are audited a bit by the store/security team
[16:36] <nacc> qwebirc2895: but generally, they are under the control of the author, not canoical
[16:37] <gogeta> qwebirc2895: i dont think it supports snaps
[16:37] <nacc> qwebirc2895: so you need to do some due diligence, imo
[16:37] <nacc> gogeta: i believe y9ou are correct, re: synaptic
[16:40] <qwebirc2895> Will I also find stuff from canonical as a snap?
[16:40] <xjkx> When 17.10 expires support (today), will apt-get stop working ?
[16:43] <gogeta> xjkx: normaly they keep working for a wile longer but you litterly get no updates
[16:44] <linux_user2> nacc: how dense are you? I do not want all these loopback file systems mounted. that is why, period. at any rate, I understand, you are like many people in on line chats wishing to change the direction of what I am trying to find out to what suits you not me and to what you know rather than what I am looking to resolve. got it, no problem, thanks for your help I'll search for other assistance.
[16:44] <gogeta> xjkx: may i  ask why you have no updated
[16:45] <xjkx> gogeta: oh i'm just curious learning stuff
[16:45] <nacc> linux_user2: please don't be rude. "not want"ing loopback file systems mounted is irrational to me. They don't use disk. They use memory. Are you annoyed by the fact they show up in df or other output?
[16:45] <nacc> linux_user2: I have answered your question several times, but with just a little bit more info from you, we could easily tell you if you will want to stick with Ubuntu or not.
[16:46] <gogeta> nacc: does snap use more memery or something
[16:47] <MrCrow> Hello!
[16:48] <mohnish_> What does the term library in Linux mean?
[16:48] <leftyfb> mohnish_: depends on the context
[16:48] <mohnish_> What?
[16:48] <linux_user2> nacc: thank you for your assistance, I will take all your comments under advisement. If using Ubuntu means I have to have lots of loopback filesystems (already close to 15) just to have my regular packages installed (and there are more I need from the base install) it is unacceptable to me. The main reason I prefer Ubuntu is that most of the packages I wish are there and not with CentOS. I will have to look at experimenting with Ce
[16:48] <linux_user2> ntOS and getting it to have the mix of packages I need, since its more standard and they do not try to twist and contort the OS every year. First we had to deal with Unity, now they messing with this. insane, always they want to go off on some non-standard direction, I have had enough  with Ubuntu, I need to find a path to a normal Linux that is more standard and not always trying to find ways to twist stuff from how it used to be.
[16:48] <linux_user2>  I am done with Ubuntu.
[16:49] <leftyfb> linux_user2: goodbye
[16:49] <linux_user2> goodbye and thank you to all
[16:49] <MrCrow> So, I have had a ton of issues with setting up this laptop, and I don't quite know why. I've tried CentOS, Debian, Rhel, Tails - no linux distro will either complete installation or boot after completing installation. Eventually I gave up, installed Ubuntu Server, and finally that installed. But now I'm having another issue
[16:49] <MrCrow> whenever I try to do "Lshw" in any capacity, it instantly softlocks
[16:49] <gogeta> linux_user2: the point in snap is to work with any distro
[16:50] <leftyfb> gogeta: they don't care
[16:50] <gogeta> linux_user2: its not a ubuntu only thing there just the first to use it
[16:50] <qi_> ok
[16:50] <qi_> hello?
[16:50] <leftyfb> qi_: what can we help you with?
[16:51] <qi_> hello???
[16:52] <MrCrow> and frankly, I don't know what to do and google really is not helping me here
[16:52] <nacc> gogeta: to be clear, the application itself won't necessarily consume more memory, but how it's stored is differnet. A .deb is extracted/installed on the filesystem, a snap is saved as a squashfs on the filesystem and loopoback-mounted (which will use memory, iirc)
[16:53] <leftyfb> MrCrow: got a touchscreen?
[16:53] <TJ-> MrCrow: sounds like the PC's ACPI firmware not working well with Linux to me
[16:53] <JimBuntu> MrCrow, What make and model of laptop? AND Have you tried any of the live usb/dvd/etc ?
[16:53] <TJ-> MrCrow: this may help you: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[16:53] <nacc> linux_user2: that is totally your choice. You still haven't said *why* loopback filesystems are unacceptable to you, which makes me think that you are spreading FUD.
[16:53] <gogeta> nacc: wouldent that be a problem if you had lots installed or is it only when there active
[16:54] <nacc> gogeta: i'm not 100% sure on that, tbh; probably a question for #snappy
[16:54] <nacc> gogeta: they also aren't mlocked, afaik, so they can be swapped, etc.
[16:54] <nacc> gogeta: there is a maximum number of loopback devices as well, etc.
[16:54] <mirya> hello guys anyone has any idea on ipxe ?
[16:54] <gogeta> nacc: so they probly are on the fly
[16:54] <MrCrow> It works fine on live usb, but for my purposes I need it to be on the hard drive. the laptop is a dell inspiron 7559 but I took out the SSD and HDD and put in a 320 gb hitatchi
[16:55] <nacc> gogeta: yeah, that'd be my guess, but i'm not an expert on that detail :)
[16:55] <gogeta> nacc: yea not seeing the problem then
[16:55] <MrCrow> but I was having this issue with other hdds as well, its not the specific hdd I'm using thats causing the problem
[16:55] <MrCrow> its just on the laptop
[16:55] <leftyfb> MrCrow: got a touchscreen?
[16:55] <MrCrow> no
[16:56] <leftyfb> MrCrow: nvidia chipset?
[16:56] <JimBuntu> MrCrow, someone actually write a guide for installing Ubuntu on that model - https://connorkuehl.github.io/dell-inspiron-7559-linux-guide/
[16:57] <MrCrow> JimBuntu: Thank you! I'll see if that helps and come back
[16:58] <JimBuntu> leftyfb, yes, it has VNVidia
[16:58] <leftyfb> MrCrow: I would focus on getting proper nvidia drivers going
[16:59] <gogeta> linux_user2: you just seem angry at change.
[16:59] <leftyfb> gogeta: please let it go
[17:00] <gogeta> linux_user2: what about kubuntu i dont think they use any snaps
[17:00] <leftyfb> gogeta: please let it go. And yes they do
[17:00] <gogeta> leftyfb: ah
[17:01] <gogeta> leftyfb: i been snug as a bug with plasma 5 kde rocks so hard now
[17:11] <Guest7400> Hi I try to install Ubuntu on a nex PC but the installation is blocked on the logo
[17:12] <Guest7400> new
[17:13] <Guest7400> how can I pass in console mode to debug ?
[17:20] <wr> minimum space disk for a ubuntu 16.04 server with isc dhcp, php, apache2 installed?
[17:23] <oerheks> wr let us know when you found out, i have no idea .. 10gb .. 15?
[17:24] <ioria> wr, https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html#system-requirements
[17:27] <nacc> wr: hard to say, as presuming you are going to host more than just the applications (e.g., content), then content size is going to probably matter
[17:27] <nacc> wr: are you asking for a VM sizing, or something?
[17:28] <hispeed_m> nacc it freezed again so i need to purge, how can i do correctly?
[17:35] <nacc> hispeed_m: `sudo apt-get purge <pkgname>`
[17:35] <wr> nacc, yesm vm exactly that
[17:35] <nacc> hispeed_m: and then i guess you need to do that for the ones you autoremoved as well
[17:36] <nacc> wr: usually disk isn't really the constraint for a VM ... what are you planning on hosting?
[17:36] <nacc> wr: you may also prefer to ask in #ubuntu-server
[17:36] <wr> nacc, is for isc dhcp, php, apache2
[17:36] <nacc> wr: yes,  you said that already. Those are just services. Alone, they don't do anything.
[17:36] <wr> ah, forgot the #ubuntu-server
[17:39] <EriC^^> !ping
[17:39] <wr> ioria, nacc, oerheks gonna "move" topic for #ubuntu-server
[17:40] <xoxo> can't find a helpful tutorial on how to install ubuntu on an asus x205t anyone able to point one out to me?
[17:41] <wr> xoxo, yes, 1m
[17:41] <xoxo> wr: thx
[17:41] <wr> xoxo, https://youtu.be/Y5acA2zRzNY search on channel there are plenty
[17:42] <oerheks> how helpfull ..
[17:42] <tomreyn> xoxo: does anything not work then?
[17:42] <xoxo> ?
[17:42] <xoxo> this is ubuntu 15
[17:43] <xoxo> 18 is out now! @wr
[17:43] <oerheks> xoxo is this a 32bit UEFI machine ??
[17:43] <bipul> When i reboot/restart the system and then open a browser. I found my system established connection with the following Unknown IP and networks https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F3dX4SFP53/
[17:43] <bipul> is this normal?
[17:43] <wr> xoxo, https://youtu.be/8xpt-KGzsfs got to go now bit in a hurry, but i'll be back
[17:43] <oerheks> xoxo, if so, i would not touch it.
[17:44] <oerheks> wr stop spreading youtube links, not helpfull
[17:44] <tomreyn> bipul: it can be, depends.
[17:44] <bipul> What can be? Please be specific.
[17:45] <xoxo> oerheks: https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ASUS_EeeBook_X205TA/specifications/
[17:45] <tomreyn> bipul: 2 of these are AWS.amazon.com VMs, this can be pretty much anything, legitimate or not. the same goes for the akamai and egdecast hosts.
[17:46] <oerheks> xoxo i read in the forum that machine has 64 bit cpu but a 32 bit uefi, cheap
[17:46] <oerheks> just checking
[17:47] <tomreyn> bipul: so the first two are CDNs. connections via plain HTTP, so you can inspect the traffic easily. the latter two to AWS are encrypted, but you can still inspect the traffic using the firefox developer console, if it is created by firefox.
[17:47] <oerheks> https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md
[17:48] <Nora9> ubuntu uses grub2?
[17:49] <oerheks> Nora9, yes
[17:50] <bipul> tomreyn, It's not about only these but many Uknow IP's like 117.18.237.29:http (ESTABLISHED) and many randoms 192.0.73.2:https (ESTABLISHED)
[17:54] <s0lucien> hi there ! How can I find out the shell name that my current session is using ?
[17:54] <tomreyn> bipul: i'd say this is kind of off-topic here, and i need to leave a for a while. you can run 'whois' on them to find out where they're hosted, and use tcpdump to capture the traffic sent to them. there is a ##privacy channel where you could maybe get more help.
[17:54] <s0lucien> i want something that prints out ubuntu@ip-171-21-44-122:~$
[17:54] <oerheks> s0lucien, echo $0
[17:54] <s0lucien> or at least the second part
[17:55]  * tomreyn bbl
[17:55] <s0lucien> it says -bash
[17:55] <oerheks> tomreyn, he is crossposting , so he got help :-D
[17:55] <s0lucien> i want the host name part
[17:55] <oerheks> s0lucien, set it in the terminal profile
[17:56] <s0lucien> the thing is the `hostname` command gives me a strange machine name . I want the shell name
[17:56] <s0lucien> isn't there some variable that i can print ?
[17:56] <s0lucien> it is set by the administrators of the university computers
[17:59] <leftyfb> s0lucien: you haven't tried $SHELL ?
[18:00] <qwebirc55018> Hey guys, after the recent update, did anyone find themselves to launch any programs, like the System Monitor or Calculator? 18.04 running here.
[18:00] <qwebirc55018> unable to launch*
[18:00] <qwebirc55018> Chrome and Terminal still seems to work though.
[18:00] <qwebirc55018> So there's that.
[18:00] <leftyfb> qwebirc55018: that's not the question you're looking to get an answer for. Your question is a survey. You should try asking for help with something.
[18:01] <qwebirc55018> How can I get System monitor to start?
[18:01] <qwebirc55018> And second of all, what happened that lead to me being unable to launch my programs?
[18:03] <oerheks> you said after updates, open terminal and run updates again? if that does not give something, sudo apt install -f # and see if that fixes something
[18:04] <qwebirc55018> Nothing to fix.
[18:05] <qwebirc55018> The automatic updater came up, I installed whatever it wanted, and then Ubuntu started acting weird. It wasn't launching the default Minecraft App. Then I tried System Monitor and that didn't work either.
[18:05] <qwebirc55018> I restarted, but still nothing.
[18:10] <UR> K
[18:10] <qwebirc55018> An update to that, I'm able now to start Minecraft, both from the terminal and the launcher.
[18:10] <qwebirc55018> Previously, it said it wasn't able to connect to the X11 server.
[18:10] <UR> Q PEZ
[18:11] <neilknew> I had a boyfriend named, "Ubuntu" once.
[18:11] <qwebirc55018> But System Monitor is still not launching, and if I run gnome-system-monitor, it says that I need to connect the snap to the gnome platform.
[18:11] <neilknew> He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[18:14] <oerheks> neilknew, please keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[18:14] <oerheks> qwebirc55018, no idea, file a bugreport
[18:16] <usrshv1> can i invoke the "copy " GUI action of Thunar from terminal? something like thunar cp * *
[18:18] <nacc> usrshv1: not sure i follow? why would you need the GUI if you are on the terminal
[18:20] <usrshv1> nacc: i trying make custom action for Thunar (file manager). but want to invoke the standard copy dialog, with progress bar ) . cause cp %f somewhere do it in background.
[18:21] <nacc> usrshv1: that might be a better question for the upstream thunar or xfce communitieis
[18:21] <nacc> usrshv1: someone here might know, admittedly, but it's really specific to that bit of software, rather than ubuntu-owned, i'd expect
[18:21] <usrshv1> nacc:  i will see! Thanks.
[18:24] <nacc> usrshv1: yw
[18:29] <genata> Hello
[18:29] <usrshv1> genata:  Hello
[18:29] <genata> Can I pls ask for help
[18:30] <Southern_Gentlem> ask your ?, dont ask to ask
[18:30] <genata> :)
[18:31] <genata> ok thanks
[18:31] <genata> I buy laptop second hand
[18:31] <genata> HP Elitebook 8560W
[18:32] <genata> and I can't set boot menu (grub)
[18:32] <uboa> I am having troubles with Duplicity (the GUI backup tool) when encrypting my backup. It was working fine for a while (apparently?) until three days ago it started saying that it cannot make an encrypted backup because of an obsolete GPG command?
[18:33] <genata> to start ubuntu I have to choose boot options and select efi launch
[18:33] <genata> how to fix this
[18:37] <uboa> Oh actually I mean deja-dup the GUI client
[18:38] <usrshv1> genata:  do you mean that everithing works, exept automatic boot?
[18:39] <genata> yes
[18:39] <genata> if I start laptop normaly it load only windows 10
[18:39] <usrshv1> uboa: try update
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | genata
[18:40] <uboa> usrshv1, thank you for your advice. I will try this and get back to you.
[18:41] <genata> ubottu:thanks
[18:42] <usrshv1> genata:  did you know that your nick mean "wedded female" "жената" in russian? please, take no blame )
[18:44] <uboa> usrshv1, okay i ran `sudo apt update` then `sudo apt upgrade` and now i'm trying to run deja-dup backups again with `DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 deja-dup --backup | tail -n 1000 > /tmp/deja-dup.log`
[18:46] <uboa> usrshv1, weird i think it's... working now possibly?
[18:46] <usrshv1> uboa: Ctrl + F "error" in log view ?
[18:47] <uboa> usrshv1, so far nothing has entered /tmp/deja-dup.log  weirdly enough... oh now it's asking for password again...
[18:47] <uboa> fingers crossed i guess
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> genata: you can also idle till EriC^^ comes back, he's our uefi specialist
[18:48] <uboa> it keeps asking for my password usrshv1 and there's nothing in the log...
[18:49] <usrshv1> uboa: why it is asking your password?
[18:49] <uboa> usrshv1 it's asking my encryption password because i'm encrypting my backups
[18:49] <genata> thanks guys
[18:49] <usrshv1> uboa: so enter that password?
[18:50] <uboa> usrshv1, i did but it keeps just asking the password. that very password used to work and it's not saying the password is wrong or anything
[18:50] <uboa> i know the password is correct
[18:50] <usrshv1> uboa:  if you run from GUI?
[18:51] <uboa> i will try running from gui instead of using `DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 deja-dup --backup | tail -n 1000 > /tmp/deja-dup.log`
[18:53] <usrshv1> uboa:  do you have rw rights on /tmp/deja-dup.log? maybe that asks you password, not GPG encription password
[18:53] <uboa> no it's the gpg encryption password it's asking for
[18:53] <uboa> also now i'm just running in GUI mode without the log
[18:53] <uboa> like u mentioned
[18:53] <usrshv1> and ?
[18:53] <uboa> it's still going
[18:54] <uboa> we'll see
[18:54] <uboa> it just gets stuck in a loop where it keeps asking my duplicity encryption password
[18:55] <xoxo> hi
[18:57] <usrshv1> uboa:  ok. maybe you copy-paste the password in question window? or temporary move your configs for duplicity from /home/"usrname". I haved glitches in other programm that were cured by "resert of configs
[18:57] <usrshv1> "reset"
[18:57] <uboa> usrshv: this has persisted PAST a fresh install i made because of this problem
[18:57] <uboa> i will try it nonetheless
[18:59] <usrshv1> uboa: I am so sorry. anyway, i never used encriotion on my disks...
[18:59] <uboa> u tried tanks
[19:02] <usrshv1> uboa:  If you choose to have Déjà Dup remember your password, it will be stored in the default GNOME keyring. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/DejaDup/HowItWorks ?
[19:02] <energizer> On ubuntu 17.10, Chrome 67.0 freezes like half the time i view a message in the new gmail.
[19:03] <usrshv1> uboa: also https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/DejaDup/Help/Restore/WorstCase#Restoring_by_Hand ?
[19:03] <oerheks> energizer, 17.10 reached EOL today, upgrade please
[19:04] <usrshv1> energizer: or install from their site, not from repos
[19:04] <tomreyn> uboa: i don't know a lot about dejadup, but a bit about gpg, could try to help with finding out why it wont accept your passphrase.
[19:04] <energizer> usrshv1: i installed from https://www.google.com/chrome/
[19:04] <oerheks> usrshv1,  lolz, chrome comes from their site/repo
[19:05] <uboa> tomreyn ok uwu i'm just trying to get deja-dup to output/be verbose
[19:05] <uboa> so i can see wat the actual error is
[19:06] <uboa> unfortunatley im out of time and gotta move on to other things rn but i'll come back here later
[19:06] <uboa> -_-; something as basic as backups failing after a fresh ubuntu install
[19:06] <uboa> pretty bogus
[19:06] <usrshv1> [cheatmode on: drunkardbearmodeon] energizer: oerheks: Do Your know who I am!? An FatFox proud user, Sires!!!
[19:07] <usrshv1> uboa:  No backups - no troubles )
[19:07] <neilknew> anus
[19:07] <neilknew> janus
[19:07] <neilknew> painus
[19:07] <neilknew> qanus
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !ops | neilknew
[19:07] <neilknew> lanus
[19:07] <neilknew> brainus
[19:07] <oerheks> !ops | mister neilknew is trolling again
[19:07] <neilknew> !ops | anus
[19:07] <neilknew> !ops | anus
[19:07] <gogeta> the ops can hear you the first time
[19:07] <malwar3hun73r> i'm trying to change the default port for sshd. i'm modifying the Port param in /etc/ssh/sshd_config but after changing the port SSH doesn't work - any ideas?
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[19:07] <gogeta> give em a second lol
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[19:08] <FabioNET> lol
[19:08] <gogeta> see
[19:08] <FabioNET> troolling in action
[19:09] <Sven_vB> my syslog is flooded with "ath10k_pci 0000:02:00.0: no channel configured; ignoring frame(s)!" and my search engine finds lots of threads where people have their wifi not working. my wifi is working, but how do I reduce the syslog spam?
[19:09] <dunnousernamefn> Do you have multiple wifi cards or something?
[19:10] <dunnousernamefn> That seems really weird, especially the error message
[19:10] <Sven_vB> I don't think so. I have one wifi, one ethernet, and some virtual network devices from docker
[19:10] <usrshv1> malwar3hun73r:  why do you edited "This file provides defaults"... how you will now reset bad changes?
[19:10] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: is this the only message repeating, or is there another one?
[19:11] <malwar3hun73r> i can see that ssh is now listening on the new port and i can establish a connection, but a shell is never spawned
[19:11] <malwar3hun73r> i see connection "ESTABLISHED" but never get a shell
[19:11] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: how did you restart it?
[19:11] <malwar3hun73r> usrshv1, it's a digital ocean box, i can get a terminal through the web
[19:12] <malwar3hun73r> so that's how i'm still getting cli access
[19:12] <malwar3hun73r> service sshd restart
[19:12] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, and rebooted and systemctl
[19:12] <malwar3hun73r> netstat shows sshd listening on the new port specified
[19:12] <tomreyn> usually, all of these options would have worked fine.
[19:13] <Guest19225> ubuntu is awesome
[19:13] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, it's the 2nd most popular (171 hits), only topped by "[UFW BLOCK] IN=enp#s# OUT= MAC=…" (800 hits) but I found where to disable that one. #3 (28 hits) is cron for /usr/lib/php/sessionclean
[19:13] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: you must have reconfigured something else then, or the file system ran full, or it went read-only.
[19:13] <gogeta> Sven_vB: thats ufw blocking some network request
[19:14] <malwar3hun73r> if i connect from a remote location, i can look at nestat through web cli and a connection "ESTABLISHED" from my remote IP, but the session is never started
[19:14] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, it's a fresh drop of ubuntu 16.04 on digital ocean
[19:14] <Guest19225> ubuntu is awesome
[19:14] <oerheks> thanks for the confirmation, Guest19225
[19:15] <Nora9> possible to boot from external hdd?
[19:15] <Sven_vB> gogeta, yeah, ufw can have its own log if it wants, but not my syslog for that kind of cryptic message.
[19:15] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, for sanity, i blew away the machine and created a new one and the only changes made were to sshd_config
[19:15] <malwar3hun73r> no firewall, no ufw, no iptables
[19:15] <oerheks> sudo ufw logging on
[19:15] <Slade> ugh just did an  rsync --delete  on the wrong directory.. theres no way of recovering that is there?
[19:16] <oerheks> slade rsync it back, without --delete
[19:16] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: none of this rules out a file system running full or going read-only
[19:17] <Slade> oerheks, it didnt work correctly. source/dest reversed :(
[19:17] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: which ubuntu release is this (lsb_release -ds), which kernel version (cat /proc/version)?
[19:17] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: have you check to make shure your roughting is the same
[19:18] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: its internel ip probly changed
[19:18] <energizer> do-dist-upgrade says not enough disk space on /boot. what can i do?
[19:18] <energizer> autoremove doesnt remove anything
[19:18] <nacc> energizer: pastebin `df -h` and `ls -ahl /boot`
[19:19] <Guest19225> Paste ]
[19:19] <usrshv1> energizer: look for old files at /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[19:19] <tomreyn> Nora9: yes, it is possible to boot off an external hdd.
[19:19] <Guest19225> Pastebin Is Closed
[19:19] <energizer> nacc: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/4qpzObi92oV7JK7eFBkk/
[19:19] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS xenial, kernel: 4.4.0-130-generic, x86_64
[19:19] <tomreyn> Nora9: generally, anything your bios lets you boot from will work.
[19:20] <nacc> Guest19225: please stop.
[19:20] <nacc> energizer: what does `uname -r` report?
[19:20] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: try ubuntu 16.04.5 then
[19:20] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, gogeta ip is correct
[19:20] <Guest19225> Ok
[19:20] <nacc> energizer: afaict, you're not using any valid kernels
[19:20] <energizer> nacc: 4.13.0-46-generic
[19:20] <nacc> oh wait, 4.13 is current hwe
[19:20] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: with my roughter it also uses the host name
[19:21] <Slade> i wonder if extundelete will solve this
[19:21] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: try connecting to the LAN IP of the system running the ssh server using netcat, but form this very system.
[19:21] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: if you have no ufw and ssh active and the correct roughting it should be golden
[19:21] <nacc> energizer: ok, try `sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.8.0-41-generic linux-image-4.13.0-19-generic linux-image-4.13.0-31-generic`
[19:22] <nacc> energizer: my guess is you removed some metapackage
[19:22] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, in that case I'll prefer to wait for bionic. :) maybe I'll have time for that tomorrow.
[19:22] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: you'll need to install the latest patches anyway, it's part of the upgrade process
[19:23] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: not the most secure of options
[19:23] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, you mean the usual aptitude full-upgrade?
[19:23] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: yes
[19:23] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, thanks for reminding me. it's been a few days.
[19:24] <malwar3hun73r> gogeta, it's not a security concern at this point
[19:24] <malwar3hun73r> but, eventually, yes
[19:24] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: although i'd recommend apt / apt-get nowadays, but i guess aptitude works, too.
[19:24] <malwar3hun73r> i can ssh locally
[19:24] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: then its 100% a roghting problem
[19:24] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: locally to the loopback address, or to the LAN address?
[19:25] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, yeah, luckily. accunulated over the years I've spend quite some time making aptitude run as I want, not motivated to repeat that effort.
[19:26] <Guest19225> Hp Laptop
[19:26] <Guest19225> ubuntu is awesome
[19:26] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: relying on too many customizations over the years is maybe not too healthy, you need to be able to adapt to software changes to some degree.
[19:26] <Guest19225> ubuntu is awesome
[19:26] <Guest19225> ubuntu is awesome
[19:26] <Guest19225> ubuntu is awesome
[19:26] <Guest19225> ubuntu is awesome
[19:26] <tomreyn> !ops Guest19225
[19:27] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: maybe the isp is blocking prrot 22 many do
[19:27] <gogeta> port
[19:27] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: you would need to set your ssh on a diffrent port
[19:27] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, yeah well we all have to prioritize where to spend our waking hours. :)
[19:28] <malwar3hun73r> gogeta, yeah, i'm specifying the port on the command line
[19:28] <usrshv1> Good Luck!
[19:28] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: but is your server on a diffrent port
[19:28] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: right now, i suggest you spend them on getting your firewall / port forwarding setup correctly. ;)
[19:28] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, gogeta connecting to the public address on the new port works locally
[19:29] <tomreyn> Sven_vB:  oh wait, that was to malwar3hun73r
[19:29] <malwar3hun73r> gogeta, yes, the point of this conversation is focused on changing the port of a server
[19:29] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: so it's clearly a firewalling / port forwarding issue.
[19:29] <Sven_vB> no prob, I have network config issues on my todo as well. :)
[19:29] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: if it working localy then the server is responding to request
[19:30] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, i would normally agree, BUT if i run a netstat command i see connection ESTABLISHED from my remote IP on the new SSH port
[19:30] <Sven_vB> also some netfilter guy called to remind you that ports cannot be forwarded. :P
[19:30] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, so the connection occurs
[19:30] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, it's like the ssh server is not sending back a shell
[19:30] <ubuntuUser> Hi Guys
[19:31] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, but the connection (at least as far as netstat can tell) is established on the new port from my remote IP
[19:31] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: it's possible that the new port you chose has restrictions applied to it by your hosting provider
[19:31] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: you would need to be ablle to login to the roughter to be able to change the port fowaring
[19:32] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: ywa use some crazy non standerd port
[19:32] <gogeta> yea
[19:32] <tomreyn> malwar3hun73r: that's hosting / upstream connectivity provider
[19:35] <tomreyn> ubuntuUser: hi, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:36] <tomreyn> ubuntuUser: also please don't keep posting "ubuntu is awesome". this is a well known fact here ;-) and we'd prefer to keep it to support Q&A only on this channel.
[19:36] <Sven_vB> malwar3hun73r, your nickname sounds like you should have packet captures that tell you exactly what happened.
[19:36] <ubuntuUser> ok
[19:37] <ubuntuUser> WHAT
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[19:38] <ubuntuUser> BLK ZGFXFLJGV ALJS
[19:38] <tomreyn> ubuntuUser: stop it
[19:38] <ubuntuUser> Ahygli<g;bfea
[19:38] <ubuntuUser> []DSVlosgz<j'pdgs
[19:39] <tomreyn> !ops | ubuntuUser
[19:40] <malwar3hun73r> Sven_vB, thanks for the help
[19:40] <genii> ubuntuUser: Please stop spamming gibberish into the support channel.
[19:41] <malwar3hun73r> tomreyn, gogeta - there must be something weird with the port i chose and my fw... i was using port 2000 but if i change to any other port it works
[19:41] <ubuntuUser> ok
[19:41] <malwar3hun73r> 2001, 2002, anything but 2000
[19:42] <malwar3hun73r> i can't find anything in my fw config that uses that port and the fact that i saw "ESTABLISHED" in netstat means the TCP handshake completed
[19:42] <qwebirc70785> Hi
[19:42] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: sweet deal then
[19:43] <malwar3hun73r> so, it's not like there's an obvious FW rule blocking or a port conflict, because if that were the case, i'm certain the connection would never be ESTABLISHED as the handshake wouldn't complete
[19:43] <malwar3hun73r> so, ????
[19:43] <gogeta> malwar3hun73r: it could be a iso thing
[19:43] <malwar3hun73r> don't use p[ort 2000
[19:43] <malwar3hun73r> don't use port 2000
[19:43] <gogeta> isp
[19:44] <NekrosBurek> Hi guys, i was here yesterday trying to fix some problems i have made installing some web panel on my ubuntu, should i ask here for help or can someone come discord so i can send all pictures ?
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> NekrosBurek: when you have an issue, its always to re-ask all in one linfe with all details
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> *line
[19:47] <nacc> NekrosBurek: did it not get resolved?
[19:50] <leftyfb> NekrosBurek: reinstall your server and don't mess with web GUI's anymore
[19:51] <blackflow> by now you could have, indeed, reinstalled it a dozen times :)
[19:53] <xoxo> anyone know how i can boot my ASUS x205t from USB drive?
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> xoxo: F12 perhaps?
[19:53] <leftyfb> xoxo: try ##hardware or the documentation for your hardware
[19:53] <xoxo> no
[19:53] <oerheks> xoxo you never answered, is that 205t an 32 bit uefi machine with 64 bit processor?
[19:53] <xoxo> oerheks: i believe so
[19:54] <oerheks> xoxo if so, i would not toch it
[19:54] <xoxo> ive installed ubuntu on it in the past
[19:54] <xoxo> the situation is such, i dont have an OS installed and my only boot option is USB but it doesn't boot.
[19:54] <masaki> i'm having this issue with desktop icons being placed outside of viewable screen when I have a dual monitor set up with different resolutions. Anyone have this issue?
[19:55] <oerheks> xoxo,  i look at this, and it is a mess .. https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md
[19:56] <ramsub07> Hi, me and my friend are admin (have root access) of a server and share the admin privilege with another colleague . I just realise that I've been kicked out of being a sudoer. I have my friend's account, how do i confirm who deleted my sudo access ?
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> masaki: you could try xrandr --auto or have a different dualscreen setup? mirrored/stretched/scaling?
[19:57] <oerheks> ramsub07, ask them ?
[19:57] <EriC^^> ramsub07: ask them
[19:57] <ramsub07> oerheks: is there anyway to check edit history or which user edited what?
[19:58] <oerheks> ramsub07, unlikely sudo commands to remove you are stored/logged, so ... ask them
[19:58] <ramsub07> oerheks: stored where ?
[19:58] <oerheks> stored why ?
[19:58] <oerheks> really, we cannot help
[20:00] <masaki> lotuspsychje, I am using 'join display' for 1600x900 laptop display + 1280x1024 external monitor
[20:00] <masaki> lotuspsychje, i tried xrandr --auto but no changes
[20:00] <ramsub07> how do i change my user password ?
[20:00] <ubuntu__> ygdrsgt
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> masaki: try mirrored?
[20:01] <masaki> lotuspsychje, so far my workaround has been open up nautilus, go to desktop drag and drop to desktop (to rearrage icons) and resetting the positions
[20:01] <oerheks> ramsub07, easy to find, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/user-changepassword.html.en
[20:02] <masaki> lotuspsychje, mirrored works fine
[20:02] <masaki> lotuspsychje, i would guess if i had an external monitor matching my laptop's resolution, it would work fine but anything different, ubuntu seems to have an issue rendering the icons in viewable areas on desktop
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> masaki: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[20:03] <masaki> lotuspsychje, 18.04 LTS
[20:05] <EriC^^> ramsub07: ask your friends who did it, if they dont explain or have a good reason, just move on
[20:05] <masaki> lotuspsychje, another weird behavior is, the icons automatically move to my secondary display. so on my primary display i have no icons
[20:05] <xoxo> i think i figured this out
[20:06] <xoxo> i need a custom .efi file
[20:06] <masaki> lotuspsychje, you can try replicating it by right clicking on desktop > organize desktop icons by name
[20:06] <xoxo> but there is no EFI folder on the budgie build...
[20:06] <oerheks> !uefi
[20:07] <oerheks> soso then make one, follow the uefi manual
[20:07] <oerheks> xoxo ^
[20:07] <oerheks> but i keep my hand off 32 bit uefi, not worth the trouble with drivers
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> masaki: normally if you mirror it should show on both monitors
[20:08] <ubuntu__> Hi Guys
[20:08] <holdsworth> hey there, I am having some difficulties setting up my basic python script as a service on my machine, can anyone be kind enough to take a look at my `.service` file? I'll just paste it here https://pastebin.com/zWRX2pru
[20:09] <masaki> lotuspsychje, yeah mirror works no problem, but the mirrored display is not very useful for me because it just duplicates your display on two screens.
[20:10] <nacc> holdsworth: and what happends?
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> masaki: i understand, but joined screens its better when they have same resolution
[20:10] <xoxo> cosmic-desktop-amd64.iso torrent anywhere?
[20:10] <xoxo> direct download SUCKS
[20:11] <holdsworth> nacc: https://pastebin.com/j7idews2 take a look at this
[20:11] <blackflow> holdsworth: what difficulties?  also note there's #systemd here on Freenode which might be more helpful with systemd specific issues.
[20:11] <holdsworth> thanks blackflow, didn't know that
[20:11] <masaki> lotuspsychje, what i want to do is multitask but when i do 'join displays', desktop icons are still there but they move outside of viewable areas of both monitors
[20:11] <oerheks> xoxo no, and cosmic is beta, don't use it unless you have a reason ( http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/  )
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> masaki: yeah i understand whats happening, not sure how gnome handles this
[20:12] <nacc> holdsworth: it's truncated a bit on the right
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> masaki: did you try make both screens same res yet?
[20:12] <nacc> holdsworth: so the service doesn't start?
[20:12] <masaki> lotuspsychje, it's my only gripe on ubuntu really. no issue on PC or Mac.
[20:12] <ikonia>  /win 7
[20:12] <masaki> lotuspsychje, yeah, like you suggested it does work no problems when both the resolutions are matching
[20:12] <ikonia> oops
[20:12] <xoxo> oerheks: this is why im using cosmic, https://github.com/T100Ubuntu/T100Ubuntu/wiki/Install-to-internal-flash
[20:12] <NekrosBurek> i forgot how do you mention someone xD
[20:12] <xoxo> which should i use instead?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> masaki: perhaps try with scaling?
[20:12] <masaki> lotuspsychje, i just don't like having black bars around my laptop screen though (16:9 and 4:3)
[20:13] <holdsworth> nacc: no, the service doesnt start, I pasted the output script
[20:13] <ramsub07> How do i change my authentication mode to only using public key
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> masaki: i dont think there's a way around to this
[20:13] <ramsub07> and not password
[20:13] <nacc> NekrosBurek: type their nick and hit tab
[20:13] <NekrosBurek> i wanted to mention you but this is easier :D
[20:13] <masaki> lotuspsychje, i guess my 4:3 monitor needs to go. like you said, gnome is probably getting confused with different screen ratios
[20:13] <NekrosBurek> How are you ?
[20:13] <xoxo> ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso this one good? @orheks
[20:13] <xoxo> @oerheks**
[20:13] <oerheks> xoxo that guide is not for your machine, and your reason for using cosmic makes me still wonder. use 18.04 lts
[20:13] <holdsworth> xoxo yeah :D
[20:13] <NekrosBurek> i came because of the problem from yesterday
[20:13] <masaki> lotuspsychje, like if i use my TV, same 16:9, no problem
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> masaki: its also more pretty when you have same screen sizes for joined screens :p
[20:14] <NekrosBurek> it is not fixed completely
[20:14] <ramsub07> apparently "passwd" command isn't working for me
[20:14] <xoxo> oerheks: link please...  i dont know what lts is .... ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso <- thats the one i downloaded
[20:14] <masaki> lotuspsychje, 100% agreed. should have bought a monitor on amazon prime day. thanks for your help!
[20:15] <blackflow> holdsworth: can you start that bufettd.py from the shell? does it work as expected?
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> masaki: cant you use mirror and work with workspaces?
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> masaki: screen1 terminal, screen2 browser etc
[20:15] <masaki> lotuspsychje, wooo that could work! let me try it
[20:15] <NekrosBurek> When i do apache2 service status i get the message it failed to start
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> masaki: activities/workspaces :p
[20:16] <masaki> lotuspsychje, on a side note, vanilla gnome 3 doesn't even use desktop icons iirc so this issue will probably never get fixed
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> masaki: we always open for new bugs
[20:16] <holdsworth> hey blackflow, yes it does work as expected
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> masaki: if you find one, or have a wish==> !bug
[20:17] <masaki> lotuspsychje, ah that's good
[20:18] <nacc> NekrosBurek: ok, use a pasetbin and show the output of `systemctl status apache2`
[20:18] <blackflow> holdsworth: well, it's failing due to "resources", which could be anything from exhausted file handlers, memory, who knows what. You have LimitNOFile defined at 65k, so I'm guessing whatever it does, requires a lot of file handlers?
[20:18] <NekrosBurek> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7mWMPPW9qt/
[20:19] <holdsworth> blackflow: 5 threads + while with a timer inside of it that prints `true that`
[20:20] <blackflow> holdsworth: is it forking daemon?
[20:21] <masaki> lotuspsychje, i tried your solution with mirror and workspaces, but i forgot that mirrored will always display a copy of your other display
[20:21] <masaki> lotuspsychje, so this isn't gonna work out either
[20:21] <nacc> NekrosBurek: try runing apache2 manually (`sudo /usr/bin/apache2`)
[20:21] <masaki> lotuspsychje, wait!
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> masaki: you sure you cant choose terminal/move to screen2?
[20:21] <masaki> lotuspsychje, after i did mirror and then switching to join display places the icons at the default spot (main display)
[20:21] <NekrosBurek> nacc: sudo: /usr/bin/apache2: command not found
[20:22] <nacc> NekrosBurek: sorry, /usr/sbin/apache2
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> masaki: nice, how did that happen?
[20:22] <holdsworth> blackflow: no
[20:23] <masaki> lotuspsychje, that works but the thing with mirrored is that whatever i do on display 1 is copied onto display 2. so if i view workspace 2, i also see workspace 2 on the other display etc.
[20:23] <holdsworth> blackflow: let me paste the script
[20:23] <masaki> lotuspsychje, i think that's my new workout lol. do mirrored and then do join display.
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> !yay | masaki
[20:23] <NekrosBurek> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WTD8zNSsTy/
[20:23] <masaki> lotuspsychje, not sure how it works but i think in between the toggling it is working out
[20:23] <holdsworth> blackflow: https://pastebin.com/YaP1u1b0
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> masaki: yeah it might search for screens better when switch back
[20:25] <masaki> lotuspsychje, let me see if i can replicate the same results by toggling through other modes first and then doing join display
[20:26] <blackflow> holdsworth: what journalctl command did you use to create that previous paste with the service log output?
[20:27] <holdsworth> blackflow: https://pastebin.com/d9bmPxyB <-- and I used `journalctl -xe`
[20:28] <nacc> NekrosBurek: sorry, can you try `sudo apachectl configtest` ?
[20:29] <xoxo> oerheks: where do i find LTS
[20:29] <NekrosBurek> nacc: it gave me only this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZF7zSknTws/
[20:30] <nacc> NekrosBurek: ok, try `sudo apachectl start`
[20:30] <blackflow> holdsworth: can you pastebin the output of   journalctl --no-pager -x -u buffett.service  ?    for example    journalctl --no-pager -x -u buffett.service | nc termbin.com 9999       and then post here the URL you get
[20:30] <NekrosBurek> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hRhWTbqxYD/
[20:31] <nacc> NekrosBurek: sudo netstat -pan | grep ':80'
[20:31] <masaki> lotuspsychje, now it works even without toggling (i've disconnected my monitor completely) hmmm
[20:31] <NekrosBurek> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zD9NdvqtNt/
[20:32] <holdsworth> blackflow: http://termbin.com/37i3
[20:32] <nacc> NekrosBurek: you appear to be running httpd already
[20:32] <nacc> NekrosBurek: which is not an ubuntu process name
[20:32] <NekrosBurek> maybe it is from the old "panel"
[20:32] <NekrosBurek> the panel created custom phpmyadmin, webmail and apache
[20:32] <nacc> NekrosBurek: yeah, maybe `dpkg -S httpd` ?
[20:32] <holdsworth> ok blackflow, I think I see it in the logs now
[20:33] <NekrosBurek> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KrHdbT6kvq/
[20:34] <nacc> NekrosBurek: ps aux | grep httpd
[20:34] <NekrosBurek> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7PVVvZNSqg/
[20:35] <nacc> NekrosBurek: have you rebooted your system since clearing up the packages?
[20:35] <tmuwa> px ax | grep htttpd
[20:35] <holdsworth> blackflow: removed group,limit and environmentfile and it works now
[20:35] <blackflow> holdsworth: yeah first that environment file is missing.    also, btw.... I'd recommend you find better examples on treading in python. the best way to stop a thread from outside is to set a shared variable the thread is monitorgin. python has facilities for that, or you can pass such an objec to the thread's runner function.
[20:35] <NekrosBurek> idk i forgot ill reboot it just in case
[20:35] <blackflow> holdsworth: *monitoring
[20:36] <holdsworth> blackflow: I'll take a look, I think that eventually I'll be porting most of it to C so it's ok, just prototyping my POC :)
[20:37] <nacc> NekrosBurek: i'm wondering if the old apache is still around, tbh
[20:37] <nacc> NekrosBurek: it won't be stopped necesarily, even by removing the pacakge, depending on what hte package's scripts do
[20:37] <blackflow> holdsworth: take a look at locking/condition/semaphore objects:   https://docs.python.org/3/library/threading.html#module-threading             offtopic here, but as I'm a python dev, just a heads up ;)
[20:38] <NekrosBurek> ill reboot, i want to remove eveyrthing related to old panel, want to fix apache, locate my phpmyadmin and to fix access denied for one of my pages
[20:38] <nacc> NekrosBurek: ack
[20:38] <NekrosBurek> nacc: i rebooted the vps what command should i try now ?
[20:39] <xoxo> if anyone cares
[20:39] <nacc> NekrosBurek: see if `systemctl status apache2` says it's running
[20:39] <xoxo> a custom 32bit.efi file is all i needed to boot ubuntu on my asusx205t
[20:39] <NekrosBurek> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RXzDTyyTXd/ okay active :D
[20:40] <nacc> NekrosBurek: ok, yeah, so likely you just hadn't rebooted after removing the buggy panel
[20:40] <oerheks> xoxo, LTS is 18.04, so you have it already
[20:40] <NekrosBurek> have you worked with multicraft ?
[20:40] <oerheks> xoxo good luck with the github manual
[20:41] <nacc> NekrosBurek: no i have not, sorry
[20:43] <NekrosBurek> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3M7VKS6TY9/ it should open a full panel i got this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3M7VKS6TY9/
[20:43] <NekrosBurek> okay double paste lol
[20:43] <nacc> NekrosBurek: so right now when you browse to the URL, you get the raw php?
[20:43] <NekrosBurek> yes
[20:44] <nacc> NekrosBurek: is php installed? `apt-cache policy php`
[20:44] <NekrosBurek> oh maybe it was removed when i removed the old panel
[20:44] <nacc> NekrosBurek: also which version of ubuntu is this?
[20:44] <NekrosBurek> 16.04
[20:44] <nacc> NekrosBurek: ok, yeah, then just install it again (might need to be `sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php`
[20:44] <blackflow> wait, why mod php?
[20:45] <NekrosBurek> nacc: Unable to locate package libapache2-mod-php
[20:45] <nacc> blackflow: well, they are using apache
[20:45] <blackflow> nacc: fpm works for apache too
[20:45] <nacc> NekrosBurek: uh, that's not a good sign
[20:45] <nacc> !info libapache2-mod-php xenial
[20:45] <blackflow> it's fastcgi anyway. mod-php is old, ancient, embeds the entire PHP interpreter into every apache worker process, lots of RAM gobbled that way for nothing, and runs as the apache user...
[20:46] <nacc> blackflow: i'm assuming they were using the default config
[20:46] <nacc> blackflow: if you'd like to configure their VPS for them, you are welcome to step in :)
[20:46] <blackflow> no thanks, mod-php it is :)
[20:46] <blackflow> I'd be glad to help set up nginx + php-fpm tho'.
[20:47] <blackflow> *to help se tup
[20:47]  * blackflow needs a new keyboard, this one suxxx
[20:47] <nacc> blackflow: heh
[20:49] <mfoxdogg> hey all, i have the nvidia graphics ppa, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa , but its only installing  396.24.00, i need the latest which s 396.24.10 and i see it in the list, how do i get the absolute latest driver
[20:50] <nacc> mfoxdogg: what version of ubuntu and `apt-cache policy nvidia-graphics-drivers-396` in a pastebin
[20:50] <oerheks> just upgrade, i guess
[20:51] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[20:51] <nacc> true, they were only published a few days ago
[20:51] <blackflow> nacc: mfoxdogg:   apt-cache policy nvidia-driver-396               (nvidia-graphics-drivers-396 is not a package)
[20:51] <oerheks> normal 'upgrade' does not bring that driver AFAIK
[20:52] <nacc> blackflow: thx
[20:52] <NekrosBurek> connection method for mysql, tcp or unix ?
[20:52] <blackflow> apt upgrade does it, I'm on 396.24.10
[20:53] <blackflow> apt-get however, might requires dist-upgrade
[20:57] <xoxo> anyone know where i can find the 32bit grub boot efi
[20:58] <nacc> NekrosBurek: that depends on your mysql configuration, which we don't know
[20:59] <oerheks> xoxo there is no official 32 bit uefi, there is a hack in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but i recommend to ask your vendor for a 64 bit uefi update
[21:00] <Guest81373> What
[21:00] <NekrosBurek> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5wDZthRFd4/
[21:01] <oerheks> !register | Guest81373
[21:01] <nacc> NekrosBurek: uh, mysql-server-5.5 is from 14.04
[21:01] <Guest81373> Ubuntu 14/
[21:01] <nacc> NekrosBurek: 16.04 has 5.7
[21:01] <Guest81373> Ubuntu 14.04
[21:01] <NekrosBurek> i can't install mysql, php and phpmyadmin it gives me errors for every installation
[21:01] <nacc> Guest81373: do you have a question?
[21:02] <nacc> NekrosBurek: `apt-cache policy mysql-server`
[21:02] <NekrosBurek> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wV8CW5T5mc/
[21:02] <nacc> NekrosBurek: ...
[21:03] <nacc> NekrosBurek: lsb_release -sd
[21:03] <leftyfb> NekrosBurek: reinstall your server and don't mess with web GUI's anymore
[21:03] <Guest81373> Ubuntu install programs?
[21:03] <NekrosBurek> Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS
[21:03] <leftyfb> NekrosBurek: you could have done this dozens of times by now
[21:03] <nacc> NekrosBurek: your server is really sort of fubar
[21:03] <nacc> NekrosBurek: i would suggest starting over
[21:03] <nacc> NekrosBurek: you have 14.04 repositories configured on a 16.04 system
[21:03] <Guest81373> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[21:03] <nacc> Guest81373: do you have a question?
[21:03] <nacc> Guest81373: please odn't just paste random things
[21:03] <Guest81373> Live
[21:04] <Guest81373> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS Lıve
[21:04] <leftyfb> Guest81373: please stop
[21:04] <nacc> Guest81373: stop. do you have an actual ubuntu question?
[21:04] <Guest81373> !register
[21:05] <NekrosBurek> ill try and reinstall the system i had some discord bots installed and few websites but ill try and back them up
[21:05] <blackflow> NekrosBurek: you should always have a backup/contingency plan where you can easily rebuild/reinstall the server in case of catastrophic failure
[21:06] <xoxo> oerheks: i got 90% of the install done, then it askd for 32bit  GRUB efi
[21:06] <xoxo> oerheks: i only have 64
[21:06] <blackflow> take this opportunity as a warning and get prepared for the next time
[21:06] <NekrosBurek> well i am new to system administration and ubuntu, i have installed everything all by myself till this error so i don't know how to properly back up,
[21:06] <oerheks> xoxo, i am not helping there.
[21:06] <NekrosBurek> i am even having problems with making multiple websites with multiple domains
[21:07] <electricmilk> Will Xubuntu 18.04 function properly if running live from a USB that is only 2GB? System requirements say 5GB but I believe that is referring to installing right?  The iso is around 1gig
[21:08] <oerheks> we love to help with multiple domains with multiple discord bots
[21:08] <oerheks> electricmilk, 2 gb will do, for live environment, it will be slow though
[21:08] <electricmilk> oerheks,  It will be slower than using a larger drive? Not enough swap space or something?
[21:09] <oerheks> electricmilk, ive usb will not use swap
[21:09] <oerheks> c/live
[21:09] <electricmilk> oerheks,  I used to run an old version of Lubuntu on it and it worked great.  Its simply used for testing / data recovery on PC's.
[21:09] <oerheks> it all happens in your magic memoory
[21:09] <ubuntu__> Live Environment is Use USB Flash Drive?
[21:09] <blackflow> NekrosBurek: well it's a complex task, not something someone with no experience can easily do, or at all.
[21:09] <electricmilk> oerheks,  So the speed isn't affected if the USB is 2GB vs 16GB?
[21:10] <blackflow> NekrosBurek: so consider documenting everything you do, perhaps in form of a shell script you can re-execute for quickly rebuilding the system
[21:10] <oerheks> electricmilk, no difference
[21:10] <electricmilk> Thank you!
[21:10] <electricmilk> Whats the recommended way to install to USB these days? Rufus or Pen Drive Linux USB Installer?
[21:10] <electricmilk> (From windows)
[21:11] <ubuntu__> Poweriso
[21:11] <ubuntu__> for Windows
[21:11] <oerheks> !usb
[21:11] <electricmilk> Thank you.
[21:11] <oerheks> the wiki suggests rufus
[21:12] <ubuntu__> rO
[21:13] <ubuntu__> Run the 2010 Laptop
[21:13] <ubuntu__> !laptop
[21:14] <electricmilk> I'll just use Rufus. Way back Ubuntu recommended Pen Drive Linux...now its not even on the list..wonder why
[21:14] <leftyfb> !tr | ubuntu__
[21:14] <electricmilk> They ever replace ubuntuguide.org?  That was a damn handy site.
[21:16] <oerheks> click and find out
[21:20] <electricmilk> oerheks,  Hmm my firewall is blocking it. ubuntuguide.org is now hosted in Latvia
[21:20] <electricmilk> Tried connecting through VPN and it says the site can't be reached
[21:21] <xoxo> how can i put a .deb file on my LTS usb drive of ubuntu so that its detected upon install
[21:22] <xoxo> my current issue is that it's not able to install into /target/
[21:23] <xamithan> Is your ubuntu on the usb just a liveusb ?  You'll need to install ubuntu
[21:24] <xoxo> on the USB
[21:24] <xoxo> this error occurs as i try installed it
[21:24] <xoxo> installing*
[21:25] <tomreyn> xoxo: i assume you'd need to copy the deb to somewhere below /target, then chroot /target, then dpkg -i
[21:25] <rob_jones> guys can someone help me with apache
[21:26] <tomreyn> xoxo: but i'm not actually sure this is the recommended way to install extra deb's during ubuntu installation
[21:26] <tomreyn> !details | rob_jones
[21:26] <mfoxdogg> nacc, sory but what i got from your first command was, Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-396
[21:27] <xoxo> tomreyn: i cant do such a thing, im using the GUI install
[21:30] <xoxo> ideas?
[21:32] <tomreyn> xoxo: the gui installer also has a temrinal installed
[21:32] <xoxo> k
[21:32] <tomreyn> + ctrl-alt-Fx
[21:32] <blackflow> mfoxdogg: didn't see my post to you? the correct package name is nvidia-driver-396
[21:32] <blackflow> mfoxdogg: anyway, did you run apt update && apt upgrade? that should bring the driver to latest 396.24.10
[21:35] <xoxo> whats Fx
[21:36] <dan> Did anyone here manage to play Trine3 on Intel HD? I just bought the game and it crashes....
[21:40] <pragmaticenigma> dan: This channel is best suited to Ubuntu support related questions. If you trace your system log files, you may find an error related to the crash and we can try to trouble shoot from that point. Unfotunately for the game itself, you will need to contact the game developer. You may also find help in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:43] <holdsworth> thanks for the help blackflow <3
[21:44] <Sven_vB> what's wpa_supplicant trying to tell me with "nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33"?
[21:45] <Ryvius> Hello, what's the best program to rip DVDs to a PS3 readable format?
[21:46] <xamithan> ffmpeg ?
[21:46] <tomreyn> xoxo: Fx where x is in 1..12, so function keys
[21:47] <xoxo> got it
[21:47] <xoxo> whats the default login / pw ?
[21:47] <xamithan> handbrake would probably be better if you want a GUI
[21:48] <xoxo> tomeryn: so i'm in console, and there is no such /TARGET folder
[21:48] <xoxo> tomery: only Desktop and examples.desktop
[21:49] <tomreyn> xoxo: hmm, you first mentioed this location: <xoxo> my current issue is that it's not able to install into /target/
[21:49] <xoxo> yea
[21:50] <xoxo> maybe that's on the usb drive?
[21:50] <tomreyn> xoxo: /TARGET/ is not the same as /target/ by the way
[21:50] <xoxo> yea, i meant /target
[21:50] <xoxo> no such /target on my USB
[21:50] <xoxo> or on my HD
[21:50] <xoxo> perhaps this folder is created upon installation
[21:51] <tomreyn> xoxo: on the old ubuntu installer, /target is a mount point where the new ubuntu system is mounted during the installtion and until the installaiton is finished (but not before th einstallation has started)
[21:51] <xoxo> oops. i found it
[21:51] <xoxo> got it
[21:51] <xoxo> so can u explain to me how im supposed to copy the deb below /target
[21:52] <tomreyn> xoxo: i could, but then you'd also ask about how to chroot, and that's where it gets more complicated, and i'm wondering whether we should not discuss alternative approaches. why are you doing this anyways?
[21:53] <xoxo> im installing ubuntu so i can work in a nice environment for tings like raspbery pi and orange pi
[21:53] <xoxo> i know how to chroot
[21:53] <xoxo> just tell me what to chroot
[21:53] <tomreyn> but can't you just install the packages once you've booted into the system?
[21:54] <tomreyn> and why are you installing a .deb file, possibly creating dependency havoc, instead of using an apt repository?
[21:55] <xoxo> most recent LTS install just shuts down after the grub isnt installed
[21:55] <xoxo> so no i cant
[21:56] <xamithan> Can you install the grub manually ?
[21:57] <tomreyn> xoxo: installing a debian package on the non booting installation won't fix grub, though.
[21:57] <xoxo> sec
[21:57] <tomreyn> unless that's a grub update which contains a needed patch
[22:03] <Ryvius> xamithan: Do you have a guide for ffmpeg? Or rather, ffmpeg doesn't include ripping, does it?
[22:04] <xamithan> If you need a guide,  you better off using handbrake.  each dvd will be different,  and ffmpeg doesn't get past DRM
[22:07] <Ryvius> Okay, I'll give that a try if my vlc experiment fails
[22:27] <xoxo> tomreyn: you there?
[22:27] <Guest51160> !tr
[22:28] <notreal-> Can I install linux on an external SSD through USB 3.1 gen2 ? will it be faster than internal SATA3 SSD ?
[22:29] <thePiGrepper> yes you can, and yes, it should be.
[22:30] <xoxo> Hello! I need help - I'm trying to install Ubuntu LTS and, welll... I get to about 90% of installation then i get a message saying grub-efi-ia32_2.02~ can't be put in /target/
[22:32] <FroMaster> Just did a fresh 16.04 install using the 16.04.4 ISO and after an apt update, I'm running 16.04.5... I didn't think 16.04.5 was out yet!
[22:32] <ubuntu__> G
[22:33] <ubuntu__> Oops Sorry
[22:33] <ubuntu__> Cow or Kow?
[22:34] <xoxo> ??
[22:34] <ubuntu__> Ok
[22:34] <masaki> is there an officially supported way to add trash icon to dock?
[22:34] <xoxo> ubuntu__: can u help?
[22:35] <ubuntu__> Im Using Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS Live,
[22:35] <ubuntu__> Im Using Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS Live
[22:35] <ubuntu__> xoxo:can u help?
[22:35] <tomreyn> FroMaster: it is, pretty fresh, no ISOs, yet.
[22:35] <xoxo> nope
[22:35] <xoxo> tomreyn: what say  u
[22:36] <xoxo> do u want a screenshot of the error msg
[22:36] <tomreyn> xoxo: that'd be good
[22:36] <ubuntu__> WD 40
[22:37] <FroMaster> tomreyn, You sure? I can't find anything that says its out yet. Release Notes, etc?
[22:37] <ubuntu__> Cats
[22:37] <tomreyn> xoxo: also discuss which ubuntu LTS, currently three of them are supported
[22:37] <ubuntu__> Im Using Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS Live
[22:37] <ubuntu__> No Problem
[22:37] <tomreyn> FroMaster: i don't seem the ISOs here http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[22:37] <oerheks> FroMaster, correct, 16.04.5 is current https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:38] <FroMaster> oerheks, Look again... 16.04.5 is NOT on that list
[22:38] <tomreyn> FroMaster: so the release is probably in progress currently
[22:39] <tomreyn> FroMaster: it's not official, yet, no announcmeent was posted to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ yet
[22:39] <FroMaster> tomreyn, Its not due until August 2nd.
[22:39] <oerheks> FroMaster, oh, right, 14th aug https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[22:40]  * oerheks needs glasses
[22:40] <FroMaster> The issue I'm having with 16.04.5, is that it has the wrong kernel
[22:40] <ubuntu__> FroMaster:Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS Release Notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[22:41] <FroMaster> ubuntu__, I'm talking about 16.04 not 14.04
[22:41] <tomreyn> FroMaster: so you get it earlier when you install patches. what do you mean by "the wrong kernel"?
[22:41] <ubuntu__> Yes
[22:41] <hggdh> ubuntu__: please either help or stay silent
[22:41] <ubuntu__> 2 Option
[22:42] <ubuntu__> Selected
[22:42] <hggdh> ubuntu__: no other warnings
[22:42] <FroMaster> tomreyn, I'm expecting the 4.15 kernel. This one has 4.13.0.45
[22:42] <oerheks> FroMaster,  did you enable HWE ??
[22:42] <oerheks> if not, you will not get 4.15
[22:42] <FroMaster> oerheks, YES
[22:43] <ubuntu__> !tr
[22:43] <tomreyn> !info linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xenial
[22:43] <tomreyn> FroMaster: according to this, 4.13 is correct
[22:44] <tomreyn> FroMaster: ignore me, this info is outdated
[22:45] <tomreyn> FroMaster: so, yes, if you have linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 installed, and have installed all pending updates, you should have linux-image-4.15.0-29-generic 4.15.0-29.31~16.04.1 installed
[22:45] <tomreyn> FroMaster: have you installed all pending updates, though?
[22:45] <FroMaster> tomreyn, That's what I was expecting.
[22:45] <FroMaster> tomreyn, nope
[22:46] <tomreyn> well, then this is why :)
[22:46] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and reboot
[22:47] <FroMaster> tomreyn, sorry, I meant, there are no pending updates.
[22:47] <xoxo> tomreyn: https://snag.gy/PSipqM.jpg
[22:48] <FroMaster> I have an automated process that builds my VM's. It does apt-get -y update && apt-get -y install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[22:48] <tomreyn> FroMaster: actually, i didn't tell the truth again. 4.15 linux packages seem to be available via -propose donly
[22:48] <FroMaster> Then reboots, and does apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[22:48] <tomreyn> FroMaster: if you don't have -proposed configured, you'd still have 4.13
[22:49] <FroMaster> tomreyn, On my production VM's running 16.04.4, they are running 4.15.0.24. I didn't specifically install it that way, it was downloaded and installed via unattended upgrades
[22:50] <ubuntu__> Ubuntu So Awesome
[22:50] <tomreyn> FroMaster: but you must have enabled -proposed there
[22:50] <xoxo> tomreyn: u therE?
[22:50] <FroMaster> tomreyn, how?
[22:50] <oerheks> ubuntu__, please don't start again, thanks.
[22:50] <ntd> so, yet another arbitrary code execution vuln in VLC
[22:51] <ubuntu__> VLC
[22:51] <ntd> ub still gonna stick their finger in the ear and hum real loud?
[22:51] <tomreyn> xoxo: can you post this image to imgur.com instead? or post the direct link.
[22:51] <ntd> i know it's universe, but VLC isn't exactly "niche" sw
[22:51] <oerheks> ntd, if you want a newer version, install the snap https://snapcraft.io/vlc
[22:52] <tomreyn> xoxo: all i can see now is a 180° rotated thumbnail
[22:52] <FroMaster> tomreyn, I'm going to kick off a new automated build and see if it ends up at 16.04.5
[22:52] <ntd> yes, let's install the app store version and have snapd phone home once a day
[22:52] <tomreyn> !proposed | FroMaster
[22:52] <oerheks> ntd oh, phone home.. really? it checks for updates, dude
[22:53] <ntd> debian updated both stable and oldstable to vlc3, since vlc2 won't be patched upstream
[22:53] <ntd> yeah, see, if i wanted that i'd just run windows
[22:53] <hggdh> ntd: OK. You have given your opinion. Thank you, that's enough
[22:54] <xoxo> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/gallery/yPvJyTN
[22:54] <ubuntu__> :D
[22:55] <ntd> snapd doesn't just check for updates. try using it without an inet connection and see how far you get
[22:55] <ubuntu__> Not Opening imgur
[22:56] <hggdh> ntd: please go to the appropriate channel to discuss. This is a support channel
[22:56] <xoxo> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/xFTotGY
[22:56] <xoxo> tomreyn: second one.
[22:57] <xoxo> tell me if u need a better screenshot
[22:57] <ntd> oh, so i have a valid concern which you can't rationalize away so i'll just have to join #buggeroff?
[22:57] <ntd> ok then
[22:58] <Tecan> was wondering if ccsm runs for anyone else ? compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:58] <Tecan> libcompizconfig.so.0: undefined symbol: _ZN6google8protobuf2io16CodedInputStream27ReadVarintSizeAsIntFallbackEv
[22:58] <tomreyn> xoxo: hmm well the text is not really readbale. you could also type the text. also discuss which hardware (exact model please) you have there
[22:58] <xoxo> ok
[22:58] <Tecan> oh nm its my protobuf
[22:58] <tomreyn> xoxo: ...and which ubuntu version you are trying to install there
[22:59] <xoxo> The 'grub-efo-ia32' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
[22:59] <xoxo> that's the error message
[22:59] <tomreyn> xoxo: okay, then we dont need a screenshot, just answer the other questions, please.
[22:59] <xoxo> asusx205t
[23:00] <ubuntu__> QA:Ubuntu Support
[23:00] <xoxo> and last but not least, ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:00] <ntd> hggdh, i asked a question about the lack of updates to VLC
[23:01] <tomreyn> xoxo: it seems like you were rpeviously here, asking the same question and being told: <oerheks> xoxo,  i look at this, and it is a mess .. https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md
[23:01] <hggdh> ntd: yes, and then started voicing your opinion about the response
[23:01] <tomreyn> xoxo: asking the same question again will not improve this situation.
[23:01] <xoxo> it's adifferent part of the situation
[23:01] <xoxo> previously i was asking about booting
[23:01] <xoxo> (from the usb at all)
[23:01] <xoxo> and that i got working with a custom 32bit.efi file
[23:02] <xoxo> now i just need help to finish this installation
[23:02] <gogeta> xoxo: you must install on the usb gurub as well
[23:02] <xoxo> oh ok
[23:03] <gogeta> xoxo: there should be a option to slect what drive grub is sent to
[23:03] <tomreyn> xoxo: okay, but the root cause is the same. you have a computer which only seemt o support 32-bit uefi. you can try switching it to legacy booting, so classic bios booting rather than uefi, in which case th einstallation *may* succeed, or you can try to get updated firmware from asius which makes it support 64-bit uefi booting.
[23:03] <xoxo> gogeta: no such option
[23:04] <oerheks> if all of you demand asus to provide 64 bit uefi, they would..
[23:05] <gogeta> xoxo: slect pther on the installer for manual partatning
[23:05] <xoxo> gogeta: got a tutorial about how to install grub to my usb disk ?
[23:05] <gogeta> xoxo: from there you can set where grub is sent
[23:05] <xoxo> one sec
[23:05] <gogeta> other
[23:05] <gogeta> xoxo: also yes use legicy mode
[23:06] <gogeta> xoxo: being 32bit efi is relly bad
[23:06] <hggdh> ntd: vlc is in universe, which means it seems a volunteer to either patch or backport for released Ubuntu versions. You could volunteer and do it, we would be extremely thankful.
[23:07] <FroMaster> Anyone know if linux-generic-hwe-16.04 pointed to 4.15.0.24.46 and was reverted?
[23:07] <hggdh> s/seems/needs/
[23:09] <tomreyn> FroMaster is asking about this package on xenial, i think
[23:10] <FroMaster> tomreyn, correct. All my production hosts that have been running for 6-8months are all pointing to 4.15.0.24.46.
[23:10] <xoxo> gogeta: so im in the partition
[23:11] <oerheks> FroMaster,  unlikely that 4.15 came with standard updates.. unless they run 18.04
[23:11] <xoxo> and its telling me to pick a root partition
[23:11] <xoxo> not sure how
[23:11] <FroMaster> It looks like on July 3, /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade raun and pulled in linux-headers-generic-hwe-16.04 v4.15.0.24.46
[23:13] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[23:15] <jdsaphir> Hi :) I'm trying to install tomcat7 on a server but... It fails and I'm having a hard time understanding why... Anyone would know how to help? :s
[23:16] <FroMaster> Something is screwy. It looks like it was prematurely released and rolled back.
[23:19] <jdsaphir> So any chance to get it to work? :s
[23:20] <FroMaster> Looks like linux-hwe  4.15.0-24.26~16.04.1 did get pushed out... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-sru-announce/2018-June/000129.html
[23:23] <FroMaster> [ubuntu/xenial-updates] linux-hwe 4.15.0-24.26~16.04.1 (Accepted) -- https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xenial-changes/2018-July/021563.html
[23:24] <FroMaster> So it got pushed out on Mon Jul 2 08:32:28 UTC 2018
[23:27] <FroMaster> And, it looks like the change was pushed due to security -- [USN-3695-2] Linux kernel (HWE) vulnerabilities -- https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2018-July/004465.html
[23:32] <tomreyn> FroMaster: fwiw, i share your interpretation that a rollback has taken place. i'm not sure whether this is out of the ordinary or has occurred before, and whether it should (not) occur.
[23:32] <FroMaster> Fresh build using 16.04.4 ISO and ended up with 16.04.5. Looks like 16.04.5 is being pushed early but with a 4.13 kernel instead of the 4.15 kernel.
[23:32] <FroMaster> tomreyn, I can't find anything about a rollback....
[23:34] <FroMaster> tomreyn, Take a peek at this https://pastebin.com/G5XVDgTz ... I don't know how to rollback linux-generic-hwe-16.04 to 4.13.0.45
[23:35] <tomreyn> FroMaster: you uninstall the package
[23:35] <tomreyn> FroMaster: sorry, wrong
[23:36] <tomreyn> FroMaster: you uninstall the  4.15 kernel image, and you downgrade linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[23:38] <FroMaster> tomreyn, Not quite sure how to do that...
[23:39] <tomreyn> FroMaster: try this: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-16.04=4.13.0.45.64 linux-image-4.15.0-24-generic
[23:40] <tomreyn> FroMaster: or better, show output of "dpkg -l linux-\*" first of all
[23:41] <tomreyn> the above command lacks a trailing underscore.
[23:41] <FroMaster> tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/GvWVpyWf
[23:42] <nacc> that linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 version is not avialable to 16.04
[23:42] <nacc> it's only avialable in bionic and on, to allow for upgrades to go smoothly, afict
[23:44] <FroMaster> nacc, ?
[23:45] <tomreyn> FroMaster: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-16.04=4.13.0.45.64 linux-image-4.15.0-24-generic_ linux-image-4.15.0-24_ linux-headers-4.15.0-24_ linux-headers-4.15.0-24-generic_
[23:45] <tomreyn> nacc: https://usn.ubuntu.com/3695-2/ suggestes otherwise
[23:46] <nacc> oh i see, they did an update via xenial-security then deleted it
[23:46] <tomreyn> that's what it looks like, yes
[23:46] <nacc> butthe deletion happend 2 weeks ago
[23:47] <tomreyn> yes, but systems would not downgrade automatically
[23:47] <FroMaster> nacc, All my production hosts got it via unattended-upgrade
[23:47] <tomreyn> whoever has it, stays on it
[23:47] <tomreyn> ...until a newer version becomes available
[23:47] <nacc> tomreyn: ah could be
[23:47] <nacc> yeah, looks like there are a few in xenial-proposed
[23:47] <nacc> so it's in the pipeline anyways
[23:48] <FroMaster> I've been unable to find any discussion where it was deleted/rolled back
[23:48] <tomreyn> well, proposed is not an issue, but pushing a newer version to security and then pulling it is not ideal
[23:48] <nacc> yeah, not great
[23:48] <WoC> Any suggestions on how to write a bootable iso file to a usb memory stick, other than dd
[23:48] <nacc> LP: #1779961
[23:48] <nacc> FroMaster: --^
[23:50] <tomreyn> hmm it would be great to update the summary on such an important bug :-/
[23:50] <tomreyn> this bug report is only about bionic, though
[23:51] <Sven_vB> what's your favorite video player program for videos whose audio track needs refinement?
[23:52] <FroMaster> nacc, Thanks for the link. I was going through all the bugs for 4.15.0-24 and its a long list with tons of duplicates.
[23:53] <blackflow> WoC: you can cp instead of dd
[23:53] <WoC> :P
[23:54] <blackflow> WoC: I'm serious, you can cp the iso to the block device
[23:54] <hggdh> blackflow: ?
[23:54] <blackflow> hggdh: hmmm?
[23:54] <Sven_vB> I think cp would work
[23:54] <hggdh> blackflow: yes, one can cp the file. Unfortunately, it does not create a bootable device
[23:54] <blackflow> hggdh: it does
[23:54] <sIRC_> hggdh: it does
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[23:55] <blackflow> cp something.iso /dev/sdb   <-- note sdb  and not sdbX
[23:55] <WoC> blackflow, k, testing
[23:56] <Sven_vB> WoC, backup any data from the usb drive first :P
[23:56] <blackflow> I'm pretty sure it does, or else I've dreamed last hundred or so installations from USB sticks I cp'd ISOs to :)
[23:57] <Sven_vB> bootability should be just a matter of the bytes in the disk, not the method of copying.
[23:57] <blackflow> yup.
[23:57] <WoC> but how is that different from dd ?
[23:57] <FroMaster> tomreyn nacc So what do you suggest I do? Roll back or wait a few days for it to be resolved via a apt update?
[23:57] <blackflow> WoC: it's not, except you don't control block size
[23:57] <WoC> k
[23:58] <tomreyn> FroMaster: if your systems works fine, i guess you can keep what you have. if you want all systems using the same kernel, you should roll back.
[23:58] <Sven_vB> oh. I guess we all just had a different interpretation of "to". "cp the iso ->to<- the block device" could also be interpreted with an implied "a partition on"
[23:58] <tomreyn> FroMaster: where "roll back" means downgrade the kernel meta package
[23:59] <Sven_vB> WoC, dd has lots of nice options that you don't need in this case though.
[23:59] <WoC> Aye
[23:59] <WoC> Handy tool indeed