| Unit193 | bluesabre: Amazing job with xfce4-settings! | 03:45 |
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| bluesabre | Unit193: thanks! I think we might be to a point now where SRU uploads are a bit more trusted for each team, so it's easier to move microreleases along. This will change when somebody breaks something though, so enjoy the ability to give our users updates :D | 04:03 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: thanks for all the sru stuffs :) | 10:09 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: sure thing | 10:14 |
| bluesabre | working on the catfish sru now | 10:14 |
| bluesabre | and then, sometime this weekend, planning to send a thunar update back to xenial | 10:15 |
| flocculant | oh cool | 10:18 |
| flocculant | I've seen e-mails during the week - but not done much more than fleetingly read them | 10:18 |
| flocculant | I'll try and catch up today | 10:18 |
| bluesabre | I'm on vacation next week, so trying to knock some stuff out before Monday | 10:19 |
| flocculant | and get some 18.04 testing sorted - point release next week | 10:19 |
| bluesabre | Let me know if there's anything you find that I need to do | 10:19 |
| flocculant | aah cool - good to know that | 10:19 |
| flocculant | week following is the last 16.04 point release | 10:20 |
| flocculant | so a bit for me to sort out soonish | 10:20 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:20 |
| flocculant | biab - just got back after todays 4 hour ride - first port of call was here :) | 10:21 |
| flocculant | kettle next :D | 10:21 |
| Unit193 | - Dropped, Xfce release manager does not have key signing | 10:35 |
| Unit193 | :( | 10:35 |
| bluesabre | once xfce moves to gandhi, I'm pretty sure gitea does support it | 10:48 |
| bluesabre | so, hopefully temporary | 10:48 |
| Unit193 | If Xfce uses that for releases over moka, that is. And if it does, we lose that nice little html page. :( | 10:49 |
| bluesabre | no winning then :( | 10:50 |
| bluesabre | there's the catfish sru, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/catfish/+bug/1782735 | 10:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1782735 in catfish (Ubuntu) "[SRU] catfish 1.4.6, New upstream microrelease" [Undecided,In progress] | 10:50 |
| bluesabre | xfce4-settings is in -updates | 10:51 |
| bluesabre | exo should be there in a day or two | 10:51 |
| bluesabre | xfce4-terminal should be there before 18.04.1 | 10:51 |
| bluesabre | catfish will be slightly after .1 | 10:51 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: has anyone killed 17.10 on our stuff yet? | 10:51 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: good question | 10:52 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: I'm fairly homicidal, so chances are I might have. Was I not supposed to? | 10:52 |
| bluesabre | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1762595 is fixed | 10:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1762595 in gvfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Thunar incorrectly thinks USB storage device hasn't finished ejecting" [High,Fix released] | 10:52 |
| flocculant | Unit193: lol | 10:52 |
| flocculant | gone from docs - still on download page, I'll see if I can kill that later and mail lists | 10:53 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: thx | 10:54 |
| Unit193 | PPAs, everything has been cleaned out except daily which I don't touch, and seemingly extras. | 10:54 |
| flocculant | okey doke | 10:55 |
| Unit193 | I, uhh...Nearly went after Bionic in 'experimental' | 10:55 |
| flocculant | :) | 10:55 |
| Unit193 | Too bad we can't SRU ristretto. | 10:56 |
| flocculant | everytime I see ristretto I read risotto | 10:56 |
| flocculant | bluesabre Unit193 - oh, now then | 11:00 |
| flocculant | If we kill 17.10 - there are no regular releases - people can only get an LTS - so they'd not ever see a regular release unless they fiddle with update manager | 11:01 |
| flocculant | best we can do I suppose is detail that in the eol notice - pointing to the docs | 11:02 |
| flocculant | knome: looking at https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/term.php?taxonomy=release&tag_ID=81&post_type=release_link&wp_http_referer=%2Fwp-admin%2Fedit-tags.php%3Ftaxonomy%3Drelease%26post_type%3Drelease_link | 11:04 |
| knome | flocculant, yes? | 11:04 |
| flocculant | which implies that torrent links hide after eol date | 11:04 |
| knome | yes. | 11:05 |
| flocculant | but it's visible | 11:05 |
| knome | hmm. | 11:05 |
| knome | okat | 11:05 |
| flocculant | :) | 11:05 |
| knome | okay too | 11:05 |
| knome | for what release is this? | 11:05 |
| knome | or for all? | 11:05 |
| flocculant | 17.10 | 11:05 |
| flocculant | EOL yesterday | 11:06 |
| knome | also :D | 11:06 |
| knome | https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/term.php?taxonomy=release&tag_ID=81&post_type=post&wp_http_referer=%2Fwp-admin%2Fedit-tags.php%3Ftaxonomy%3Drelease (and all similar pages) | 11:06 |
| knome | read "release apes" | 11:06 |
| knome | maybe that should be corrected to "release pages" | 11:06 |
| knome | hmm... | 11:07 |
| flocculant | are the dates in the wrong syntax there? | 11:07 |
| knome | for now, the workaround is to uncheck the "is this release out?" box | 11:07 |
| knome | nope | 11:07 |
| knome | they are in the correct syntax -- but | 11:07 |
| flocculant | then the wording is :D | 11:07 |
| flocculant | Date in YYYY-MM-DD format. | 11:07 |
| knome | your browser might show it differently | 11:07 |
| knome | because that's the new HTML5 date input | 11:08 |
| flocculant | date shows as 19/07/2018 | 11:08 |
| knome | yep. | 11:08 |
| knome | that's the html5 thingy | 11:08 |
| flocculant | anyway - ack to unchecking | 11:08 |
| knome | to me it shows 07/19/2018 | 11:08 |
| knome | but if you don't mind -- file a bug against xubuntu-website in launchpad | 11:08 |
| knome | this should be automatical for sure | 11:08 |
| flocculant | oh good lord | 11:08 |
| knome | but yes, the description is a bit off i guess.. | 11:09 |
| knome | the thing is | 11:09 |
| knome | if your browser *doesn't* support the html5 date input | 11:09 |
| knome | then the input is shown as plain text | 11:09 |
| knome | ...and the you'd have no idea what to input | 11:09 |
| flocculant | knome: so I unchecked it - and it still shows up | 11:10 |
| knome | where? | 11:10 |
| knome | not https://xubuntu.org/release/17-10/ | 11:10 |
| flocculant | https://xubuntu.org/download/ | 11:10 |
| knome | oh. | 11:10 |
| flocculant | have to manually do that I guess | 11:10 |
| knome | interesting | 11:10 |
| knome | yes, you need to manually edit the downloads page | 11:10 |
| knome | i guess | 11:10 |
| knome | *sigh* :) | 11:11 |
| knome | that's another thing i should automate. | 11:11 |
| knome | but you know, life... | 11:11 |
| flocculant | I'll do it all later today - not got time to do everything right now | 11:11 |
| knome | i can remove it | 11:11 |
| flocculant | yea for sure - I know I've been quiet since the start of the cycle | 11:11 |
| knome | and done | 11:12 |
| knome | maybe i'll have the motivation and time in late august+ | 11:12 |
| flocculant | knome: ok - I'll follow up later today with words everywhere it's needed | 11:12 |
| knome | ta | 11:12 |
| knome | i'll file the damn bug(s) myself now | 11:12 |
| flocculant | funnily enough docs doesn't show 17.10 :D | 11:12 |
| knome | yep | 11:12 |
| knome | because that's automated | 11:13 |
| flocculant | oh ok - scribbles that note out :D | 11:13 |
| knome | hmm, there is this other thing | 11:14 |
| knome | timezones | 11:14 |
| flocculant | I did wonder | 11:14 |
| knome | is it still 19th in the server tz? | 11:14 |
| knome | so maybe wait 24 hours | 11:14 |
| knome | and recheck | 11:14 |
| flocculant | yea | 11:14 |
| knome | i checked the "out" box for 17.10 | 11:14 |
| knome | so they are now visible | 11:15 |
| knome | should automatically disappear | 11:15 |
| flocculant | yup | 11:15 |
| flocculant | cheers | 11:15 |
| knome | but in any case -- we should make sure that is done automatically in UTC | 11:15 |
| knome | np | 11:15 |
| Unit193 | I got a ping. | 11:15 |
| knome | ding dong | 11:15 |
| knome | theoretically https://xubuntu.org/releases/ could offer the downloads as well. | 11:16 |
| knome | but... meh :) | 11:16 |
| flocculant | :) | 11:16 |
| knome | now that Spass did the work of getting all the old wallpapers, we could list them for each release as well | 11:17 |
| knome | (and we pretty much already support doing that, only the heading is a bit wrong as it says "Screenshots", could be "Media") | 11:17 |
| flocculant | could be nice | 11:18 |
| knome | pleia2, i (still) propose getting rid of the press archive (https://xubuntu.org/press/archive) | 11:18 |
| flocculant | anyway - back later | 11:18 |
| knome | the press stuff i laid out so much nicer in the release pages -- even if it's not listing everything on the same page... | 11:18 |
| knome | flocculant, hf! | 11:19 |
| knome | https://xubuntu.org/release/6-06/ for an example for the wallpaper stuff.. | 11:20 |
| knome | that way we are also essentially offering downloads for the official wallpapers "easily" | 11:21 |
| knome | (which is a good thing) | 11:21 |
| flocculant | yea - makes sense | 11:21 |
| flocculant | really going now :p | 11:21 |
| knome | yes :P | 11:21 |
| knome | oh hello rt.ubuntu.com | 11:28 |
| knome | so every wallpaper except maverick uploaded - it exceeds the max upload size (rt #32539 requests to increase that) | 11:42 |
| Spass | knome, very nice little change, now that page looks more "alive" - https://xubuntu.org/release/16-04/ | 12:01 |
| knome | yes indeed | 12:01 |
| knome | even more so with the EOL releases that have no other media | 12:02 |
| Spass | ups, that last screenshot is from 13.04 - https://xubuntu.org/release/14-04/ | 12:05 |
| knome | clearl | 12:06 |
| knome | y | 12:06 |
| knome | :P | 12:06 |
| knome | man, we need a filter-by-release feature:P | 12:06 |
| knome | now the last screenshot is gone | 12:06 |
| knome | fortunately this is easy as that.. | 12:06 |
| Spass | and thanks to that change I now know that I've missed 10.04 wallpaper on my website, I thought that release used a wall from the 9.10, so thanks :) | 12:11 |
| knome | ;) | 12:11 |
| knome | actually i'm not sure if that was the real case. | 12:12 |
| knome | my memory with that is a bit hazy, but that's what i had on my filesystem | 12:12 |
| knome | *shrug* | 12:12 |
| knome | it might have been one of the rare cases when a new wallpaper wasn't uploaded for a release | 12:12 |
| Spass | hmm, so I should investigate that | 12:13 |
| Spass | let my download that ISO and check :P | 12:13 |
| knome | ta | 12:16 |
| knome | you should start get involved a bit more even, we could then add you to the website team (and xubuntu team) so you could do things on yer own | 12:17 |
| knome | and/or if you are active on social media, i'm sure pleia2 would love some help maintaining stuff | 12:17 |
| knome | now off for something completely different | 12:22 |
| knome | o/ | 12:22 |
| Spass | thanks knome, I'm trying to be a "sometimes helpful" outsider ;) and yes, I probably should get involved in the project more, I hope I'll find some ways to do that in the future, problem is I'm not skilled or knowledgeable enough, I think, but I'll try to help with some ISO testing in the future also | 12:25 |
| Spass | seems like 10.04 used a wall from 9.10 by default, but still, I like that from the release page more :) | 12:48 |
| knome | Spass, we do need different skills - everybody doesn't need to be a developer :) | 13:49 |
| Spass | I know, but a person should have some "different skills" first :D | 13:52 |
| Spass | anyway, that all talk about old Xubuntu versions made me nostalgic and I'm making simple grey Plymouth theme | 13:53 |
| Spass | https://i.imgur.com/utakTGJ.png | 13:53 |
| Spass | #333333 background of course ;) to keep it official | 13:54 |
| Spass | and since I don't have SSD on my laptop I will be able to actually see that screen | 13:55 |
| pleia2 | knome: you had proposed it before? :) I suppose as long as we have the articles linked somewhere, it's ok, since I do like being able to walk through history and see what articles popped up about releases from 7 years ago :) | 18:53 |
| knome | pleia2, yeah, when we moved to the new (current) press link collection thingy :) | 20:23 |
| pleia2 | ah | 20:25 |
| Unit193 | https://tracker.debian.org/news/974393/accepted-elementary-xfce-012-1-source-all-into-unstable-unstable/ there appears to be a new package in Debian, I have no clue where it came from. | 20:39 |
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