[03:45] bluesabre: Amazing job with xfce4-settings! [04:03] Unit193: thanks! I think we might be to a point now where SRU uploads are a bit more trusted for each team, so it's easier to move microreleases along. This will change when somebody breaks something though, so enjoy the ability to give our users updates :D [10:09] bluesabre: thanks for all the sru stuffs :) [10:14] flocculant: sure thing [10:14] working on the catfish sru now [10:15] and then, sometime this weekend, planning to send a thunar update back to xenial [10:18] oh cool [10:18] I've seen e-mails during the week - but not done much more than fleetingly read them [10:18] I'll try and catch up today [10:19] I'm on vacation next week, so trying to knock some stuff out before Monday [10:19] and get some 18.04 testing sorted - point release next week [10:19] Let me know if there's anything you find that I need to do [10:19] aah cool - good to know that [10:20] week following is the last 16.04 point release [10:20] so a bit for me to sort out soonish [10:20] :) [10:21] biab - just got back after todays 4 hour ride - first port of call was here :) [10:21] kettle next :D [10:35] - Dropped, Xfce release manager does not have key signing [10:35] :( [10:48] once xfce moves to gandhi, I'm pretty sure gitea does support it [10:48] so, hopefully temporary [10:49] If Xfce uses that for releases over moka, that is. And if it does, we lose that nice little html page. :( [10:50] no winning then :( [10:50] there's the catfish sru, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/catfish/+bug/1782735 [10:50] Launchpad bug 1782735 in catfish (Ubuntu) "[SRU] catfish 1.4.6, New upstream microrelease" [Undecided,In progress] [10:51] xfce4-settings is in -updates [10:51] exo should be there in a day or two [10:51] xfce4-terminal should be there before 18.04.1 [10:51] catfish will be slightly after .1 [10:51] bluesabre: has anyone killed 17.10 on our stuff yet? [10:52] flocculant: good question [10:52] flocculant: I'm fairly homicidal, so chances are I might have. Was I not supposed to? [10:52] and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1762595 is fixed [10:52] Launchpad bug 1762595 in gvfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Thunar incorrectly thinks USB storage device hasn't finished ejecting" [High,Fix released] [10:52] Unit193: lol [10:53] gone from docs - still on download page, I'll see if I can kill that later and mail lists [10:54] flocculant: thx [10:54] PPAs, everything has been cleaned out except daily which I don't touch, and seemingly extras. [10:55] okey doke [10:55] I, uhh...Nearly went after Bionic in 'experimental' [10:55] :) [10:56] Too bad we can't SRU ristretto. [10:56] everytime I see ristretto I read risotto [11:00] bluesabre Unit193 - oh, now then [11:01] If we kill 17.10 - there are no regular releases - people can only get an LTS - so they'd not ever see a regular release unless they fiddle with update manager [11:02] best we can do I suppose is detail that in the eol notice - pointing to the docs [11:04] knome: looking at https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/term.php?taxonomy=release&tag_ID=81&post_type=release_link&wp_http_referer=%2Fwp-admin%2Fedit-tags.php%3Ftaxonomy%3Drelease%26post_type%3Drelease_link [11:04] flocculant, yes? [11:04] which implies that torrent links hide after eol date [11:05] yes. [11:05] but it's visible [11:05] hmm. [11:05] okat [11:05] :) [11:05] okay too [11:05] for what release is this? [11:05] or for all? [11:05] 17.10 [11:06] EOL yesterday [11:06] also :D [11:06] https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/term.php?taxonomy=release&tag_ID=81&post_type=post&wp_http_referer=%2Fwp-admin%2Fedit-tags.php%3Ftaxonomy%3Drelease (and all similar pages) [11:06] read "release apes" [11:06] maybe that should be corrected to "release pages" [11:07] hmm... [11:07] are the dates in the wrong syntax there? [11:07] for now, the workaround is to uncheck the "is this release out?" box [11:07] nope [11:07] they are in the correct syntax -- but [11:07] then the wording is :D [11:07] Date in YYYY-MM-DD format. [11:07] your browser might show it differently [11:08] because that's the new HTML5 date input [11:08] date shows as 19/07/2018 [11:08] yep. [11:08] that's the html5 thingy [11:08] anyway - ack to unchecking [11:08] to me it shows 07/19/2018 [11:08] but if you don't mind -- file a bug against xubuntu-website in launchpad [11:08] this should be automatical for sure [11:08] oh good lord [11:09] but yes, the description is a bit off i guess.. [11:09] the thing is [11:09] if your browser *doesn't* support the html5 date input [11:09] then the input is shown as plain text [11:09] ...and the you'd have no idea what to input [11:10] knome: so I unchecked it - and it still shows up [11:10] where? [11:10] not https://xubuntu.org/release/17-10/ [11:10] https://xubuntu.org/download/ [11:10] oh. [11:10] have to manually do that I guess [11:10] interesting [11:10] yes, you need to manually edit the downloads page [11:10] i guess [11:11] *sigh* :) [11:11] that's another thing i should automate. [11:11] but you know, life... [11:11] I'll do it all later today - not got time to do everything right now [11:11] i can remove it [11:11] yea for sure - I know I've been quiet since the start of the cycle [11:12] and done [11:12] maybe i'll have the motivation and time in late august+ [11:12] knome: ok - I'll follow up later today with words everywhere it's needed [11:12] ta [11:12] i'll file the damn bug(s) myself now [11:12] funnily enough docs doesn't show 17.10 :D [11:12] yep [11:13] because that's automated [11:13] oh ok - scribbles that note out :D [11:14] hmm, there is this other thing [11:14] timezones [11:14] I did wonder [11:14] is it still 19th in the server tz? [11:14] so maybe wait 24 hours [11:14] and recheck [11:14] yea [11:14] i checked the "out" box for 17.10 [11:15] so they are now visible [11:15] should automatically disappear [11:15] yup [11:15] cheers [11:15] but in any case -- we should make sure that is done automatically in UTC [11:15] np [11:15] I got a ping. [11:15] ding dong [11:16] theoretically https://xubuntu.org/releases/ could offer the downloads as well. [11:16] but... meh :) [11:16] :) [11:17] now that Spass did the work of getting all the old wallpapers, we could list them for each release as well [11:17] (and we pretty much already support doing that, only the heading is a bit wrong as it says "Screenshots", could be "Media") [11:18] could be nice [11:18] pleia2, i (still) propose getting rid of the press archive (https://xubuntu.org/press/archive) [11:18] anyway - back later [11:18] the press stuff i laid out so much nicer in the release pages -- even if it's not listing everything on the same page... [11:19] flocculant, hf! [11:20] https://xubuntu.org/release/6-06/ for an example for the wallpaper stuff.. [11:21] that way we are also essentially offering downloads for the official wallpapers "easily" [11:21] (which is a good thing) [11:21] yea - makes sense [11:21] really going now :p [11:21] yes :P [11:28] oh hello rt.ubuntu.com [11:42] so every wallpaper except maverick uploaded - it exceeds the max upload size (rt #32539 requests to increase that) [12:01] knome, very nice little change, now that page looks more "alive" - https://xubuntu.org/release/16-04/ [12:01] yes indeed [12:02] even more so with the EOL releases that have no other media [12:05] ups, that last screenshot is from 13.04 - https://xubuntu.org/release/14-04/ [12:06] clearl [12:06] y [12:06] :P [12:06] man, we need a filter-by-release feature:P [12:06] now the last screenshot is gone [12:06] fortunately this is easy as that.. [12:11] and thanks to that change I now know that I've missed 10.04 wallpaper on my website, I thought that release used a wall from the 9.10, so thanks :) [12:11] ;) [12:12] actually i'm not sure if that was the real case. [12:12] my memory with that is a bit hazy, but that's what i had on my filesystem [12:12] *shrug* [12:12] it might have been one of the rare cases when a new wallpaper wasn't uploaded for a release [12:13] hmm, so I should investigate that [12:13] let my download that ISO and check :P [12:16] ta [12:17] you should start get involved a bit more even, we could then add you to the website team (and xubuntu team) so you could do things on yer own [12:17] and/or if you are active on social media, i'm sure pleia2 would love some help maintaining stuff [12:22] now off for something completely different [12:22] o/ [12:25] thanks knome, I'm trying to be a "sometimes helpful" outsider ;) and yes, I probably should get involved in the project more, I hope I'll find some ways to do that in the future, problem is I'm not skilled or knowledgeable enough, I think, but I'll try to help with some ISO testing in the future also [12:48] seems like 10.04 used a wall from 9.10 by default, but still, I like that from the release page more :) [13:49] Spass, we do need different skills - everybody doesn't need to be a developer :) [13:52] I know, but a person should have some "different skills" first :D [13:53] anyway, that all talk about old Xubuntu versions made me nostalgic and I'm making simple grey Plymouth theme [13:53] https://i.imgur.com/utakTGJ.png [13:54] #333333 background of course ;) to keep it official [13:55] and since I don't have SSD on my laptop I will be able to actually see that screen [18:53] knome: you had proposed it before? :) I suppose as long as we have the articles linked somewhere, it's ok, since I do like being able to walk through history and see what articles popped up about releases from 7 years ago :) [20:23] pleia2, yeah, when we moved to the new (current) press link collection thingy :) [20:25] ah [20:39] https://tracker.debian.org/news/974393/accepted-elementary-xfce-012-1-source-all-into-unstable-unstable/ there appears to be a new package in Debian, I have no clue where it came from.