| IrcsomeBot | Anarcho Taoist was added by: Anarcho Taoist | 01:52 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <Anarcho Taoist> @forester, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/back ports … sudo apt update … sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop | 01:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Anarcho Taoist> Kubuntu is running plasma 12.6. Is it possible to install 13.2? | 02:01 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <Scyt4l3> @Anarcho Taoist, It's not released yet via backport ppa. You have to wait or switch distributions | 04:10 |
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| zxq9 | hrm... how do I make capslock work the normal way (not require shift+capslock)? | 05:50 |
| zxq9 | Seems to be an Ubuntu thing. I don't think my vanilla Debian or Gentoo systems do that on KDE or XFCE. | 05:51 |
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| ylli | hello | 08:42 |
| ylli | ##shqip | 08:42 |
| ylli_ | #english | 08:43 |
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| IrcsomeBot | JeffLancelot was added by: JeffLancelot | 10:38 |
| amichair | It seems kdesudo is gone in 18.04, what's the recommended alternative? | 10:56 |
| diogenes_ | amichair pkexec | 10:57 |
| amichair | diogenes_: does it require special arguments? without args it gives an X display error | 10:59 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: pkexec kate for instance | 10:59 |
| amichair | diogenes_: "pkexec software-properties-kde" results in "Could not connect to any X display" | 11:01 |
| amichair | "XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set" | 11:01 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: yeah, it doesn't work with all the applications, it's something recently implemented to ... | 11:01 |
| amichair | so kdesudo is just gone, and there's no appropriate replacement? | 11:02 |
| diogenes_ | right | 11:02 |
| amichair | diogenes_: lovely | 11:03 |
| amichair | ok, let's try another q: | 11:05 |
| amichair | how does one switch between nvidia and nouveau drivers? | 11:06 |
| amichair | how does one switch between internal Intel graphics and NVidia card? (on laptop with both) | 11:06 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: did you install the proprietary nvidia? | 11:08 |
| amichair | diogenes_: I think so | 11:08 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: open the terminal and run: sudo lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 | 11:09 |
| diogenes_ | copy/paste the output to some pastebin and share the link here | 11:09 |
| diogenes_ | !pastebin | amichair | 11:10 |
| ubottu | amichair: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 11:10 |
| amichair | diogenes_: that outputs only the Intel one, should I use VGA|NVIDIA to grep both? | 11:12 |
| diogenes_ | sudo lspci -nnk | grep NV -A3 | 11:12 |
| amichair | diogenes_: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DGqbrgymd7/ | 11:14 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: yep, you installed the proprietary driver, in order to use it, type in the menu nvidia, you open the nvidia settings and there should be an option to switch either to intel or nvidia | 11:15 |
| amichair | diogenes_: so that sets the one used for the laptop display and turns off the other completely? how about external hdmi port? | 11:16 |
| amichair | is this under 'PRIME Profiles'? | 11:17 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: yes under prime | 11:18 |
| diogenes_ | you switch to nvidia and reboot | 11:18 |
| amichair | oh nice there's also a prime-select command for cli | 11:18 |
| amichair | diogenes_: is the same card used both for laptop display and external hdmi port? or are they different? | 11:18 |
| diogenes_ | the same | 11:19 |
| amichair | diogenes_: and how would I switch if I didn't have nvidia installed, just nouveau? | 11:19 |
| diogenes_ | DRI_PRIME=1 | 11:20 |
| amichair | where is that? | 11:20 |
| diogenes_ | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/nouveau | 11:21 |
| amichair | diogenes_: thanks! | 11:21 |
| diogenes_ | yw | 11:21 |
| diogenes_ | i prefer nouveau | 11:22 |
| amichair | diogenes_: now how do I switch nvidia/nouveau driver? The driver manager gui seems to not change anything | 11:22 |
| diogenes_ | that's a tricky way | 11:22 |
| diogenes_ | it is described in the article i gave | 11:23 |
| amichair | diogenes_: oh wierd, I changed in nvidia setting to use intel, now the grep shows nvidia using nouveau | 11:24 |
| amichair | or maybe that's just what it says when intel is used and not nvidia anyway | 11:24 |
| diogenes_ | <look at kernel driver in use | 11:25 |
| amichair | yay, with intel drivers the laptop seems to not get stuck on resume from suspend! | 11:25 |
| amichair | and will probably save some battery compared to nvidia card (my guess) | 11:25 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 11:26 |
| amichair | is there an advantage to using an MX150 with nouveau rather than intel graphics 620? | 11:26 |
| IrcsomeBot | dongyanmou was added by: dongyanmou | 11:26 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: i personally prefer nouveau, it's open source and it works nice for me | 11:27 |
| diogenes_ | no need to install the proprietary crap | 11:27 |
| amichair | diogenes_: compared to intel or compared to nvidia? | 11:27 |
| amichair | isn't intel driver also open? | 11:28 |
| diogenes_ | nouveau is related to nvidia, you got the nvidia card and it can use either nouveau or nvidia proprietary driver | 11:28 |
| diogenes_ | intel has proprietary microcode too | 11:28 |
| diogenes_ | but it's optional because there is an open source driver too | 11:28 |
| amichair | diogenes_: yeah, I was asking about nouveau compared to intel | 11:29 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: the question is not quite correct because with the optimus setup (when there are two cards intel and nvidia or AMD) you are supposed to use your normal work with itel grphics | 11:30 |
| diogenes_ | only when you play games or do some heavy graphics demanding stuff' | 11:30 |
| diogenes_ | you use nvidia cadr with either nouveau or nvidia proprietary driver | 11:30 |
| diogenes_ | intel graphics* | 11:31 |
| amichair | don't know what optimus/prime is | 11:31 |
| amichair | so it automatically switches between them? | 11:31 |
| diogenes_ | optimus means when there are two graphics cards intel and nvidia or AMD | 11:31 |
| diogenes_ | nope it doesn't switch automatically | 11:32 |
| diogenes_ | only on windows, on linux you need a command to switch to the second card | 11:32 |
| amichair | diogenes_: does it use both concurrently? or u switch manually and reboot? if so how is that different from having two cards a decade ago (or whatever was before optimus)? | 11:32 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: a decade ago there was no such thing as integrated graphics, so you had only the discrete one | 11:33 |
| diogenes_ | now the intel one is integrated it means even if your discrete graphic card dies, you can still use your pc | 11:33 |
| diogenes_ | with the integrated one | 11:33 |
| diogenes_ | and it doesn't use both at the same time | 11:34 |
| amichair | I know that setup, didn't know it's called optimus. dunno what the name adds :-) | 11:34 |
| diogenes_ | optimus it's called because it optimizes power consumption and performance, it keeps a good balance between those two | 11:35 |
| diogenes_ | and that's an awesome technology | 11:35 |
| amichair | diogenes_: but if it doesn't switch between them automatically, what's the optimization/technology? | 11:35 |
| amichair | if u need discrete graphics u use that, if not u use integrated, and that's it, no? | 11:36 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: that's logical, all your tasks normally run with intel, it means lower power consumption, lower heating and stuff but when you need more power for a game for instance, you append the command that enables the discrete card and ther you have it. | 11:37 |
| amichair | or do u mean optimus is a separate technology within a given card to keep poewr/performance balanced? (i.e. unrelated to multiple cards)? | 11:37 |
| diogenes_ | i explained ^^^ | 11:37 |
| amichair | diogenes_: oh, so u can switch weithout a reboot | 11:37 |
| amichair | yeah then that's more convenient | 11:37 |
| amichair | adding it to a game startup script is closer to what I meant by automatic. semi-automatic :-) | 11:38 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: you can switch without reboot when you use intel + nouveau, with intel + nvidia you need to reboot and yes, there is no optimization in that case | 11:38 |
| diogenes_ | up until 18.04 there was a program called bumblebee that used to work perfectly switching the nvidia proprietary driiver on the fly, no reboot needed, but now they killed it | 11:39 |
| diogenes_ | and that's kinda sad | 11:39 |
| amichair | so bumblebee enabled optimus on the proprietary driver? and now it only works with nouveau? | 11:40 |
| diogenes_ | amichair: exactly, in ubuntu yes, but there are still some other distros where you can use bumblebee that will switch to the proprietary nvidia on the fly | 11:41 |
| amichair | ah ok | 11:41 |
| diogenes_ | by just appending: optirun <application> | 11:41 |
| amichair | cool | 11:41 |
| amichair | (and uncool it's not in ubuntu) | 11:41 |
| diogenes_ | yeah | 11:41 |
| amichair | diogenes_: thanks for ur help and many answers! | 11:53 |
| amichair | diogenes_: solved my initial problem (suspend/resume), and learned a few things along the way! | 11:53 |
| diogenes_ | yw | 11:53 |
| amichair | I'll try to get nouveau working instead of nvidia proprietary too | 11:53 |
| loat | does anyone know how to get videos to sort by duration in dolphin? | 12:39 |
| amichair | damn suspend/resume still fails even with intel card/driver :-/ | 12:46 |
| amichair | resumes into blank screen, only hard reboot helps | 12:47 |
| Dragnslcr | loat- if you right-click in the column header, there's a column for Audio -> Duration. Not sure if that will work for video files as well. | 12:52 |
| loat | Dragnslcr- I did try that and no luck, I may have to write something, was hoping it was built in | 12:53 |
| loat | I appreciate the response though | 12:54 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <Faszinosium42> Hey there! … I often have the feeling that my Kubuntu system uses too much memory (and therefor tends to be slow) but I am not sure which background applications are necessary to ''run the system'' and which ones are only eat up my memory. … I would appreciate it if someone could help me :) | 13:49 |
| diogenes_ | Faszinosium42, look in ksysguard | 14:10 |
| tichun_ | How can I live with Plasma 5.12 when 5.13 was released? | 14:11 |
| tichun_ | Firefox (GTK3) has dark text on dark background for tabs except the current one using Breeze for GTK | 14:14 |
| diogenes_ | tichun_: what? | 14:15 |
| tichun_ | https://imgur.com/a/iS4SQGm | 14:19 |
| diogenes_ | try a different theme for ff | 14:22 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <Anarcho Taoist> (Sticker, 336x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/OcsmzCxc/file_8683.webp | 14:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Anarcho Taoist> Yes, how can you? I am installing plasma on a new laptop next week. Do I go with 18.04 - Kubuntu or 5.13 - Neon? | 14:59 |
| tichun | Is "United" Look And Feel working for you on 18.04? | 15:14 |
| tichun | This is the theme that mimics Unity | 15:14 |
| tichun | (I'd like to swap theme every once in a while) | 15:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | WayneTimothy was added by: WayneTimothy | 15:26 |
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| jrss | good morning | 15:44 |
| jrss | I want to move my kubuntu installtion to an SSD in my computer. looking for a way to clone. which software do you recommend? is there anything built in? | 15:44 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <Scyt4l3> dd is build in in every linux system. but be extremely careful as many call it destroyer of disks. Read a few guides to use it | 16:46 |
| [Relic] | wouldn't it be easier just to backup copy all the config files, reinstall everything and overwrite the config files to the last setting you were using? | 16:54 |
| jrss | well I want to make a backup that includs configs all of my programs, yes, potentially also what I downloaded | 17:57 |
| jrss | so when I start on the SSD it's there | 17:58 |
| jrss | I have a backup of my home folder, that's a good start. | 17:58 |
| IrcsomeBot | nashouguan was added by: nashouguan | 18:08 |
| Dragnslcr | jrss- I've used Clonezilla in the past. It's a Debian-based Live CD that uses partclone/partimage | 18:33 |
| jrss | Dragnslcr: keep hearing about this one. So you can boot from a USB using it? | 18:35 |
| jrss | if I'm dual boot, can I use my windows partition for it maybe? | 18:35 |
| jrss | not that I mind starting from a usb just wondering about options. seems to have many | 18:35 |
| Dragnslcr | Yeah, it should work fine booted from a USB drive | 18:39 |
| Dragnslcr | I think I only ever tried it from a CD and from the network, but USB should work fine | 18:40 |
| Dragnslcr | You don't need any other disks or partitions. It can just copy from the old disk to the new SSD. | 18:40 |
| jrss | ohh really? so if I format my SSD, and then boot from USB, I can tell it to copy from my HD to my SSD? and it will? | 18:42 |
| jrss | all in one action? as in, do I need to create an image first, or is there a "copy" option? I am looking it up right now I didn't see it before hmm | 18:42 |
| Dragnslcr | I'm pretty sure it can just do a direct copy | 18:52 |
| Dragnslcr | I don't think you even need to format the SSD, since the format of the old drive will get copied as well | 18:52 |
| jrss | Dragnslcr: wow that's helpful hmm. yeah I have to SSDs, both are used by windows, one for the OS, the other for stuff | 19:00 |
| tichun | How to hunt QML modules for widgets? I currently need org.kde.plasma.private.notes | 19:00 |
| jrss | and I thought I'd need it but it makes no sense to use my HDD for Kubuntu | 19:00 |
| Candida_ZX | Hi, I have a problem. I´m not able to make a USB startup disk (and yes I know how to do this) with startup disk creator. | 19:36 |
| diogenes_ | very little info | 19:37 |
| Barefooted_raven | Startup disk creator isn't working for me | 19:37 |
| diogenes_ | try etcher and RosaImageWriter | 19:37 |
| Barefooted_raven | Do you mind telling me what the problem might be? | 19:38 |
| diogenes_ | yes of course | 19:38 |
| * diogenes_ gazes into his crystam magic ball | 19:38 | |
| diogenes_ | crystal* | 19:38 |
| Barefooted_raven | or course, you do mind? | 19:38 |
| Barefooted_raven | What I mean is, this does seem to be a problem with this particular program. | 19:39 |
| diogenes_ | it's either program or device | 19:39 |
| diogenes_ | one of two | 19:39 |
| Barefooted_raven | I see, as this has happened before when I used other computers. I am using an older version of Kubuntu as well | 19:40 |
| Barefooted_raven | My reasons for wanting to do this are also because none of my flash drives are visible UNTIL I use a partition editor. Odd! This is a first | 19:42 |
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| IrcsomeBot | BradleyBarrett was added by: BradleyBarrett | 20:57 |
| my_mind | Hey | 21:46 |
| luuk | hey | 21:46 |
| my_mind | Anyone have an issue with usb devices in 18.04? When I unplug a usb external hdd or flash drive, it stays in dolphin and freezes | 21:47 |
| my_mind | When I plug it back in, it doesn’t mount itself | 21:48 |
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