[18:32] <Eickmeyer> If anybody is here, ping me so we can start our meeting.
[18:49] <eylul> I just saw your email sorry
[18:50] <eylul> no particular progress report from me btw
[18:51] <eylul> epub is partway done. did a lot of overhead work, on getting the styles etc sorted out. now copying the content in
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, you saw mine in the email.
[18:51] <eylul> heh
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> I wouldn't mind even skipping this meeting and postponing to next meeting. I didn't get much done.
[18:51] <eylul> unexpected work related stuff ate quite a bit of time for me past 2 weeks.
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> Same
[18:52] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks had a similar situation.
[18:52] <eylul> ah ok
[18:52] <eylul> btw in future if we can have a meeting hour change announced a bit earlier, we can adjust better :)
[18:52] <Eickmeyer> He was working on -plasma, but there's a lot to be done in order to start the iso build.
[18:53] <eylul> honestly I am amazed at the amount of work already going out in this release
[18:53] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. We're busting tail.
[18:53] <eylul> 6 months isn't a huge amount of time, especially when lat 1/3rd of it is basically bug fixing and testing
[18:53] <eylul> if we only get controls out, that's good progress
[18:53] <eylul> if we get controls and plasma out that is amazing progress
[18:54] <eylul> I am not counting wallpaper because technically that was done for last push
[18:54] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. I'm working on Cadence if for nothing else than to replace Patchage with Catia.
[18:54] <eylul> would be lovely to have those things on ubuntustudio. but just to remind you...
[18:54] <eylul> you are a lot more useful to us being here long time
[18:54] <eylul> :)
[18:54] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox is working on getting my repackage of calf in Debian, which would be as simple as a sync request.
[18:54] <eylul> so one thing at a time
[18:54] <eylul> nice
[18:55] <eylul> I wasn't able to look into the ISO related stuff. epub... well
[18:55] <Eickmeyer> I'm glad to be so helpful. I saw a need and filled the need. It's what I do.
[18:55] <eylul> ok lets say it turned out to be a tiny bit more work than I anticipated it to be. (I had previously converted books from open office format, never copied from wiki) but it has also been a very nice learning experience
[18:56] <eylul> (also dealing with some formatting issues like side columns which I normally simply avoid in books for that reason) ;)
[18:56] <Eickmeyer> Totally. preppert chose to do it that way, so I just mimicked as good as I could.
[18:56] <eylul> *nods*
[18:57] <Eickmeyer> I'm rattling-around in my head a section on live audio production, since that's my area of expertise.
[18:57] <eylul> I would suggest maybe a separate book
[18:57] <eylul> the way this one is written really works as a work done by one person. 
[18:58] <Eickmeyer> True, but he handed it to us to be authors along with him, to change and add to as seen fit.
[18:58] <eylul> that's fair
[18:58] <eylul> maybe we can have a second edition of sorts. :)
[18:58] <Eickmeyer> Yeah.
[18:59] <Eickmeyer> We can probably add a credit section for authors of various sections/chapters.
[18:59] <eylul> that could work
[19:00] <Eickmeyer> I already had to make major edits to the VST/Carla section since there was incorrect information, such as the initial requirement of needing wine, which is incorrect since there are native Linux VSTs.
[19:01] <eylul> well...
[19:01] <eylul> there are many vsts without native linux equivalent
[19:01] <Eickmeyer> This is true, but the ones used in the example had native versions.
[19:01] <eylul> oh
[19:01] <Eickmeyer> And there was uproar from people in the community about it.
[19:01]  * Eickmeyer waves to captain-tux
[19:02] <captain-tux> Hi :)
[19:02] <eylul> oh ok... and whooops in this case :)
[19:02] <eylul> hi captain-tux
[19:02] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: We're considering postponing until next week. Work and life got in the way these past two weeks.
[19:03] <Eickmeyer> Basically... nothing of note got done. Everything is still work-in-progress.
[19:03] <Eickmeyer> Nothing really to report.
[19:04] <eylul> I do have a question btw
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> eylul and I were discussing the Audio Handbook a little off-the-record (even though everything here is logged).
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> eylul: What's up?
[19:04] <captain-tux> Oh, I understand. Same here...
[19:04] <eylul> this is for a future meeting but.. is there a solution for us to share passwords?
[19:04] <eylul> securely that is not manually that we can use.
[19:05] <Eickmeyer> In what way for what purpose?
[19:05] <eylul> something like lastpass but opensource. ideally within launchpad or outside
[19:05] <eylul> e.g. mastodon account password.
[19:05] <eylul> also like.. it would be nice to have an internet archive account down the line for things like the epub
[19:05] <Eickmeyer> Ohhh... yeah, that would be a good thing.
[19:05] <eylul> our current system is secure enough but VERY awkward
[19:06] <Eickmeyer> sakrecoer never handed the reigns to the G+ account, so that would be something to prevent a similar situations from happening.
[19:06] <eylul> yeah exactly
[19:07] <Eickmeyer> Lastpass has a way of sharing passwords, but I'd hate to have everyone have to pay to use something like that.
[19:07] <eylul> yeah
[19:07] <Eickmeyer> I'll ask around. I think Noah Chelliah might have an idea.
[19:08] <eylul> *nods* ok
[19:08] <Eickmeyer> He's Noah of the Ask Noah Show, and a personal friend of mine. I'll ping him.
[19:08] <eylul> ah
[19:08] <eylul> I mean I have one idea..
[19:08] <eylul> but we would need to host it
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. Hosting is its own can of worms lately. *sigh*
[19:10] <eylul> yeah
[19:10] <eylul> honestly I am surprised canonical doesn't have it as part of ubuntu suite
[19:10] <eylul> and it might be worth bringing this up with them
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. I might ping tsimonq2 if he knows of a solution.
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> As far as the Facebook page, I have full ownership now, so that's not an issue. FB is easier to hand-off than most other accounts.
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> We can add that to our next meeting agenda. I think we should formally start a meeting to take a vote to postpone the meeting until next week.
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> #startmeeting
[19:12] <meetingology> Meeting started Sat Jul 21 19:12:14 2018 UTC.  The chair is Eickmeyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:12] <captain-tux> Do you know about Hootsuite?
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> #chair eylul captain-tux
[19:12] <meetingology> Current chairs: Eickmeyer captain-tux eylul
[19:12] <eylul> commercial
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: commercial, closed source.
[19:12] <eylul> (also things like mastodon doesn't work with it)
[19:12] <captain-tux> Oh, okay.
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> For our twitter account, I'm part of the team (along with sakrecoer), so we can use tweetdeck for that.
[19:13] <eylul> facebook and twitter has team options
[19:13] <eylul> unfortunately mastodon doesn't. internet archive if we went that route wouldn't work with it either. 
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> Yep, so it's not essential to know the master passwords in those cases.
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> Anyhow...
[19:13] <eylul> yeah
[19:13] <eylul> :)
[19:14] <Eickmeyer> #topic Postpone One Week
[19:14] <Eickmeyer> #vote Postpone One Week
[19:14] <meetingology> Please vote on: Postpone One Week
[19:14] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:14] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:14] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:14] <eylul> +1
[19:14] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:14] <captain-tux> +1
[19:14] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:14] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:14] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Postpone One Week
[19:14] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:14] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:14] <Eickmeyer> #endmeeting
[19:14] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat Jul 21 19:14:36 2018 UTC.  
[19:14] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntustudio-devel/2018/ubuntustudio-devel.2018-07-21-19.12.moin.txt
[19:14] <Eickmeyer> Shortest. Meeting. Ever.
[19:15] <Eickmeyer> eylul: I'll add that to the agenda.
[19:15] <eylul> haha
[19:15] <eylul> thanks :)
[19:16] <eylul> eickmeyer btw reminder to try out mastodon.
[19:16] <eylul> btw if anyone wants to help out with management of that account let me know
[19:16] <Eickmeyer> eylul: Yeah, I thought about that last night before bed. :/ Action was not taken. XD
[19:17] <eylul> would it help if I emailed you an invite from the node I am currently on?
[19:17] <eylul> (same goes to you captain-tux)
[19:18] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, probably. a "getting started" idea like that isn't a bad one.
[19:18] <captain-tux> I'll come back to that next week, I suppose I won't have a lot of time to look into it until then. :/
[19:18] <eylul> Eickmeyer doing so now. captain-tux more than fair. :) no pressure
[19:21] <Eickmeyer> Okay. Well, the wife is asking me to get her going with this get-together we're hosting, so I better hop off.
[19:21] <Eickmeyer> o/
[19:22] <captain-tux> See you, thanks!
[19:22] <eylul> take care.
[19:22] <eylul> ok I should also get going unless you need me for something captain-tux?
[19:22] <captain-tux> No, just leave me behind. It's alright...
[19:23] <eylul> ouch
[19:23] <eylul> :)
[19:23] <captain-tux> See you around. ;)
[19:23] <eylul> take care :)