[00:46] <tomreyn> doh, windows has something like a serial console, too, i never knew... https://serverfault.com/questions/554298/windows-serial-console
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:18] <ducasse> good morning
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> morning
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> hey
[09:32] <calcmandan> :/
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> im also since on ubuntu
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> !4.10
[09:33] <calcmandan> actually, it was 4.10
[09:33] <calcmandan> i want from that to 5.04
[09:34] <calcmandan> then skipped 6.10
[09:34] <calcmandan> edgy i think it was.
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> !7.04
[09:34] <calcmandan> i was never really a fan of gnome.
[09:35] <calcmandan> i moved to 4.10 from being a redhat user.
[09:35] <calcmandan> i was sick of the package manager.
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> i did, when it was still lighter in use
[09:35] <calcmandan> updating redhat was such a pain
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> ive tested early redhat/mandrake?suse too
[09:36] <calcmandan> i was a redhat user from rh3 .
[09:36] <calcmandan> until i switched to kubuntu.
[10:12] <kostkon> !4.04
[12:17] <oerheks> blackflow, best thing is not to answer right away, let them wait, and see what happens :-D
[12:17] <oerheks> if trolls do not get attention, they usually fix their issues within 2 minutes
[12:17] <blackflow> heh
[12:18] <blackflow> I don't buy that selinux story either.
[12:21] <tomreyn> they installed their home server using the desktop installer image and did not know which ubuntu release is current, they are unable to get their sshd working. they wont have setup selinux (unless they found some ugly how-to). :-/
[12:22] <oerheks> we wait, and still do not see
[12:22] <blackflow> or is not a troll but wants to sound smart and assumes nobody would ask about selinux details :)  "Nobody in #ubuntu is probably using selinux so I can sound smart".
[12:23] <oerheks> I got my fresh couch, and removed the leather from my old one, yes, even the back was pure leather, despite my brother/mom claiming the back is usual fake leather
[12:24] <tomreyn> glad you brought it up!
[12:24] <oerheks> :-D
[12:24] <oerheks> SSL super strong leather
[12:25] <tomreyn> so a tech topic after all
[12:25] <blackflow> upgrade to TLS?   Total Leathery Strongness!
[12:26] <tomreyn> although i guess leather crafting involves plenty of tech, too
[12:26] <oerheks> i am going to use it for storing a collection of wood bites tools
[12:46] <oerheks> hmm too much helpers does not work
[13:03]  * oerheks facepalms
[13:05] <tomreyn> thanks for pointing out the 16.04 vs 18.04 thing, oerheks
[13:06] <sonicwind> good morning guys
[13:20] <oerheks> hi sonic
[14:02] <blackflow> y'all see this question? office under wine under ubuntu under vmware under windows.......
[14:07] <daftykins> xD
[14:07] <daftykins> that deserves a penguin slap
[14:08] <blackflow> "16:05 < HaMsTeRs> if so, you should know that the format in libre is gay"   sigh... ignored.
[14:49] <tomreyn> blackflow: do you know https://raptorcs.com/content/base/products.html ?
[14:50] <blackflow> tomreyn: Talos, yup. I'm drooling for that.
[14:50] <tomreyn> me, too, once it'll be stable / reliable / gen 2, and, moreover, more affordable.
[14:51] <blackflow> beside $$, the only other problem with it I have is that Steam is essential to my sanity. I'd need a wintel machine, separate to my main workstation, for that.
[14:52] <tomreyn> well, why not. if you can afford the talos, adding another off the shelf gaming computer is just pennies ;)
[14:53] <blackflow> and servers... it's currently cheaper for us to rent than to colocate own hardware. otherwise I'd be all over those servers.
[14:53] <tomreyn> there's also https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware/the-server-1u
[14:54] <tomreyn> actually i think the raptor-cs folks want to also offer hosting on this hardware.
[14:55] <blackflow> tomreyn: it'll have to be in EU for us.
[14:55] <tomreyn> okay, you give me the money, i do the hosting?
[14:55] <tomreyn> ;-)
[14:57] <blackflow> tomreyn: sure, send over your technical GDPR compliance docs, and we'll take it under consideration ;)
[14:57] <tomreyn> :) well, i'd first of all need to setup a DC
[14:59] <tomreyn> then hire someone for all the boring stuff, office + paperwork incl. compliance stuff, and then do the fun hosting stuff.
[14:59] <tomreyn> so... lets talk in 3 years? ;)
[15:01] <blackflow> =)
[15:47] <tomreyn> i think we discussed ipv4 depletion a while ago https://ipv6.he.net/v4ex/sidebar/
[16:44] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[18:57] <tomreyn> looks like yesterdays' "ntd" found their way to #ubuntu-hardened as "lol768"
[18:59] <oerheks> tomreyn has eagle eyes, run mice, run
[18:59] <oerheks> :-D
[18:59] <oerheks> next step is recognize them without ip adresses
[19:01] <tomreyn> well, no need for hostnames or ip address, i can recognize 'angry person boasting about intolerable lack of instant security support in my free OS' easily
[21:08] <blackflow> any ops in the house?
[21:11] <oerheks> in #ubuntu-ops, or directly #freenode, they monitor us too
[21:37] <hggdh> blackflow: what do you need?
[21:38] <blackflow> hggdh: the user is gone now, but for the reference, and this was posted earlier in #ubuntu:  https://pasteboard.co/HvGIbnH.png
[21:38] <blackflow> this "toured" user apparently harassing Dbugger in private
[21:39] <hggdh> this is a PM session?
[21:39] <blackflow> hggdh: from what I understand, yes.
[21:39] <hggdh> k
[21:41] <hggdh> yeah, found it, around 2100 UTC
[21:41] <blackflow> yah
[22:01] <hggdh> the best we can do: (1) report it at #ubuntu-ops; (2) /ignore the user (syntax may be a bit different depending on what IRC client you use; for me -- weechat -- it is /ignore add <nick>)
[22:04] <blackflow> hggdh: yeah I suggested to Dbugger to set +g on their nick
[22:08] <blackflow> hggdh: another customer requires your attention in #ubuntu :))