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[01:48] <Antisoche> Hi - I'm running Kubuntu 18.04. I recently installed updates and when I print from Inkscape or a test page from the Settings dialog, the CMYK colors look good but the RGB colors look awful. I think this got worse after I installed the updates but that may not be the case. However, when I print from GIMP (a GTK app) everything looks great. How would I go about debugging this?
[01:55] <valorie> wow, that's quite a specialized question
[01:56] <valorie> I guess I would ask in #kde if you really think it is a KDE issue
[02:08] <Antisoche> valorie: Thanks for the suggestion. I guess nobody here has seen similar problems?
[02:09] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> Hi, I want ask question, is it good idea to install kubuntu as DE from Ubuntu? … in my past time, i really use Kubuntu, but because some of difficulty using xrandr, i move to Ubuntu for now, but i really miss Kubuntu.
[02:11] <Antisoche> IrcsomeBot: what was your issue with xrandr? It's not specific to etiher DE
[02:18] <valorie> Antisoche: not that I've seen, no
[02:19] <valorie> @kusuma_loka if you had problems with xrandr in Kubuntu but not in Ubuntu, it's possible that it was one of your settings
[02:20] <valorie> best way to check that is to login with a new user
[02:20] <valorie> kubuntu isn't in charge of graphics settings and we don't adjust anything there
[02:20] <valorie> all set by the base system that we all share
[02:24] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> im using Core i3 4030u laptop … want to using external monitor alongside laptop  monitor for extended display … in kubuntu (17.xx) after i setting my seccond display using xrandr, second display colour is not calibrate corectly, so i move to ubuntu 17.xx, but cant setting anything because ubuntu 17.xx using wayland as default … when im using linux mint, it can run, but not consistent, sometime its freezing, sometime the disp
[02:24] <IrcsomeBot> get some cut … when ubuntu 18.04 release and knowing it run xorg as default, i try it, and now its run smooth, never had any freeze or cut display
[02:30] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> my current difficulty to clean install kubuntu, because this my workstation, i didnt want to install all form scratch … so i want to try install kubuntu but from my running ubuntu as base
[02:30] <Antisoche> I think there's a package called kubuntu-desktop ...
[02:30] <valorie> that's certainly possible, but it won't be Kubuntu
[02:30] <valorie> !kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <ubottu> k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:31] <valorie> the main issue is collisions with gtk libraries and such
[02:31] <valorie> plus all those gnome apps
[02:32] <valorie> but if that's what you want, go for it
[02:32] <Antisoche> In the simplest case, though, if you just want to run KDE, you'll have that option.
[02:32] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> hmm, is ubuntu and kubuntu using different GTK Libraries or just different version?
[02:34] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> okay i will try, … hopefully nothing wrong can happen … its really painfull to reinstall from zero for your workstation, its not about data, but about all setting i must do again :(
[02:37] <valorie> we don't use gtk libraries at all
[02:37] <valorie> we use KDE frameworks which replaces the old KDElibs
[02:38] <valorie> if you love plasma, you'll get it
[02:38] <valorie> and you can install *any* application in the archive
[02:39] <valorie> not just KDE or gnome ones
[02:40] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> okay, i will try today,  … hopefully nothing bad is happen
[02:42] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> (Photo, 1001x559) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/IqS9I0Wz/file_8696.jpg okay, for first step, download, after work hours will try to login in KDE / Kubuntu
[02:43] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> one last question for now … is there any alternatif for shutter apps? … i really like shutter apps for screenshoot or screen clipping, but shutter not get update anymore, and running so slow
[02:44] <Antisoche> KDE's app is called Spectacle
[02:45] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> its kde native or i must install separately?
[02:46] <Antisoche> It's native, but I don't know if it comes by default.
[02:46] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> okay, i will try after finish install kubuntu
[02:46] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> thanks for your all support :)
[02:48] <valorie> @kusuma_loka if you like synaptic, you might like muon even more
[02:48] <valorie> :-)
[02:50] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> yes, thats true, in my last linux mint actually i install muon :D … but in ubuntu, because of hurry for workstation to ready, i just install synaptic
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[03:32] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> okay, done. … i just try to setting xrandr, it work, but not instantly change my second screen resolution after i enter command, still need to enter setting to set resolution
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[03:36] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> actually, kubuntu look more snappy than ubuntu … its totally different than i know in last 2 years when kubuntu is known for heavy than ubuntu
[04:08] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> something interesting, in my bottom panel, all widget is missing, i must manually add sound widget, notification widget, batery widget … but its all fun :D
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[08:51] <IrcsomeBot> <kusuma_loka> there is one bug maybe i can say … when i leave laptop in sleep mode, the second monitor become pixelated, after i unplug vga connector and plug in again, problem dissapear
[09:41] <IrcsomeBot> <TaurohtaRR> Anyone facing problem with energy saving screen off? … I have configured to display screen after some period of time if no activity but it eventually stopping to work. Can't understand what causing this. I have suspiction that it is related to waking from sleep. When laptop just rebooted it works ok. Even after forcing sleep and waking it works. But eventually it stops working.
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[11:43] <zuribost> Hi everyone, after an update with apt-get, in the graphic mode my user has lost all the groups but, if I try in a simple terminal (Crtl + Alt + F1), the same user has the groups. Do anyone suffer this kind of bug ? I will appreciate any light to follo searching information
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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[14:19] <IrcsomeBot> <Anarcho Taoist> Is it possible to have the rounded Ubuntu style notifation pop up in Kubuntu?
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[20:09] <jack_montgomery[> Hi All, what are some good XMPP clients for KDE that are still under active development?
[20:10] <jack_montgomery[> My XMPP needs are pretty simple and I don't require a multi-protocol client.
[20:17] <jack_montgomery[> Noting that, I do use Matrix (via the nheko client) so a Matrix-XMPP bridge could be an option however, it looks like it is still in the early stages of development.
[20:17] <keithzg> jack_montgomery[: I think KTp is still technically maintained? Certainly it seems like some stuff in terms of integrations is still under active development, although the main client and library side of it very much doesn't seem to be.
[20:19] <keithzg> jack_montgomery[: In terms of an XMPP client that's "for" KDE (which I'm taking to mean is at least based on Qt, heh), I think Psi is still under quite active development.
[20:19] <keithzg> And yeah Matrix is pretty awesome, but the bridges do still leave something to be desired so far.
[20:21] <keithzg[m]> (I do use the Matrix-IRC bridge a lot! :D)
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[20:30] <jack_montgomery[> keithzg[: awesome, thanks for the advice/answers, very useful and helpful!
[20:32] <keithzg> No problem :)
[20:33] <IrcsomeBot> <Niggolas> penumbra … definition from … Oxford Dictionary of English - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobisystems.msdict.embedded.wireless.oxford.dictionaryofenglish  … penumbra /pɪˈnʌmbrə  / … ▸ noun … (plural penumbrae /pɪˈnʌmbriː/ or penumbras) … 1 the partially shaded outer region of the shadow cast by an opaque object. … ▪ Astronomy the shadow cast by the earth or moon over an area experiencing 
[20:33] <IrcsomeBot> Astronomy the less dark outer part of a sunspot, surrounding the core. … 2 a peripheral or indeterminate area or group: … an immense penumbra of theory surrounds any observation. … – DERIVATIVES … penumbral /pɪˈnʌmbrəl  / adjective … – ORIGIN mid 17th century: modern Latin , from Latin paene ‘almost’ + umbra ‘shadow’.
[20:41] <bororb> is there anywhere i can see what kernel version future releases will use?
[20:43] <PaulfraOSAA> Does anybody else have problems with kwallet after upgrading?
[20:44] <PaulfraOSAA> It seems the version 5 tools cannot read the version 4 wallet, so now my wallet is locked.
[20:44] <PaulfraOSAA> When I enter the correct password, an error -9 comes up and my google fu seems to have failed me
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[22:35] <kubuntu> hi everyone
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[22:36] <Guest61592> ok my name changed
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