[08:31] <ninjarider89> ok who wants to help a noob out
[08:35] <diogenes_> !ask | ninjarider89
[08:39] <ninjarider89> ok i dnt know exactly how irc wrks so here we go trying to install lubuntu boot live run throu the install and go to boot from hd and it falls back to gnu grub 2.0 and thats where i get stuck any help?
[08:42] <diogenes_> ninjarider89: i didn't quite get, what OS is currently installed on your pc?
[08:42] <ninjarider89> windows 10 on another hd
[08:42] <diogenes_> so you've got a pc with two HDDs?
[08:43] <ninjarider89> its a laptop sorry hp envy touchsmart
[08:43] <diogenes_> with two HDDs?
[08:44] <ninjarider89> yes
[08:44] <diogenes_> and on one of then is windows 10 and what is on the other one?
[08:45] <ninjarider89> according to the partition manager lubuntu
[08:46] <ninjarider89> but i cant get it to boot it falls back to gnu grub2.0
[08:46] <diogenes_> wait, did you actually install the lubuntu? or you trying to install it
[08:47] <ninjarider89> the live installer said it completed
[08:48] <diogenes_> ok, now when the pc starts, does it reach grub menu? where you can choose to boot either lubuntu or windows 10?
[08:49]  * diogenes_ reboots his pc
[08:50] <ninjarider89> no it boots to windows 10 i have to manually select the hd in the boot device
[08:50] <ninjarider89> menu
[10:34] <sirjams> hellp
[10:35] <sirjams> hello
[10:35] <sirjams> I use Lubuntu 17 amd I would like to upgrade it to 18, but without loosing any data. How can I do it?
[10:36] <sirjams> is it possible to do it by terminal?
[10:36] <sirjams> or maybe save my /home dir in a usb pen and make a new installation?
[10:36] <sirjams> anyone?
[10:37] <sirjams> help the newbie here... :)
[10:45] <tsimonq2> !ask | sirjams
[10:45] <sirjams> Ok ubottu, sorry.
[10:45] <tsimonq2> sirjams: sudo do-release-upgrade does the upgrade to 18.04.
[10:45] <sirjams> I am a Lubuntu 17 user...
[10:45] <tsimonq2> You don't lose data.
[10:46] <tsimonq2> You should always have backups, by the way.
[10:46] <sirjams> holly...you gave the answer before the question???
[10:46] <sirjams> :)
[10:46] <tsimonq2> hehe
[10:46] <tsimonq2> I guess I meant to do this one...
[10:47] <tsimonq2> !patience | sirjams
[10:47] <sirjams> so...I dont loose any data, right?
[10:47] <tsimonq2> You shouldn't.
[10:47] <sirjams> sorry for the newbie question, but how do I save my /home drr in a usb flash pen?
[10:48] <sirjams> *dir
 Hi from the Telegram bridge.
 Do you have anything on the drive at the moment?
[10:49] <sirjams> yes, some docs
 So, insert the flash drive and open it in the file manager.
[10:49] <sirjams> ok...
[10:50] <sirjams> and copy it all to the flash drive, right?
 Then go to /home in the file manager.
 Yup, you can do that.
[10:50] <sirjams> ok
[10:51] <sirjams> but you had other idea...do to /home in the file manager and?
 Then from there you can just copy the whole folder.
[10:52] <sirjams> well...thanks! you were great! tx for helping this newbie...
 Anytime :)
[10:53] <sirjams> I will do it now. Upgrade and copy files to the flash drive.
 Copy first, upgrade second.
[10:54] <sirjams> what about the installed programs...will they be deleted or will stay with the new Lubuntu?
[10:55] <sirjams> ok tsimonq2
 @sirjams, They will stay.
[10:58] <sirjams> tx. I had a lot of reserves doing this upgrade...my lubuntu machine is old and it is  not powerfull...and I red that lubuntu 18 needs the double of the resources, right?
 Well, that's mainly there to reflect the current web standards.
 You should be fine.
[11:00] <sirjams> ok. well...I will do it and see how it goes...but thanks guys...you were great!
[11:01] <sirjams> stay well, stay safe!
 Thanks.
[17:26] <sirjams> hello again
[17:27] <sirjams> I am a lubuntu 17 user, and I was trying to upgrade it to lubuntu 18 by terminal
[17:28] <sirjams> but every tutorial and articles I found are only related with ubuntu, not lubuntu...
[17:28] <sirjams> is it the same thing?
[17:28] <sirjams> sorry for the newbie questions
[17:28] <wxl> sirjams: yes
[17:30] <sirjams> ok. so, if I follow all instructions about upgrading from ubuntu 17 to 18, is is going to do the same thing with my lubuntu 17...it becomes Lubuntu 18, right?
[17:31] <sirjams> I red so many things and way to do it...wich is the easiest way to do it by terminal?
[17:32] <sirjams> I made back up of all my docs in /home dir...
[17:32] <wxl> usually `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` but if you're on an old version, you might have to manually edit the sources.list and/or use the iso to upgrade
[17:33] <sirjams> I am using the 17 version...
[17:36] <sirjams> 17.10
[17:37] <sirjams> when I try: sudo do-release-upgrade -d , it tells me that I have the new version
[17:37] <sirjams> ???
[17:37] <wxl> what's `lsb_release -d` tell you?
[17:38] <sirjams> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 17.10 Release:	17.10 Codename:	artful
[17:39] <wxl> and to be sure what's `grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades` give you?
[17:43] <sirjams> Prompt=lts
[17:43] <wxl> oh that's weird
[17:43] <wxl> edit that file and change that value to normal
[17:44] <wxl> then `sudo do-release-upgrade` should work
[17:45] <ca_cabot>  hey all, i'm on lubuntu 17.10, and trying to upgrade to 18.04 - sudo do-release-upgrade returns that no new release can be found?
[17:45] <wxl> ca_cabot: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades so Prompt=normal
[17:48] <ca_cabot> sweet, ty! why does it need to change from lts to normal when upgrading to an lts release?
[17:49] <ca_cabot> because artful wasn't lts?
[17:49] <wxl> yeah i have no idea how you were on artful and it was set to lts
[17:49] <wxl> that's what i'd call a very strange situation
[17:49] <ca_cabot> weird
[17:49] <wxl> i had thought that if set to anything, it would allow an upgrade to any lts release but it seems that the issue is that it will only support lts->lts if it's set to lts
[17:50] <wxl> whereas normal will allow normal->normal or lts->normal or normal->lts
[17:50] <ca_cabot> i see, i can't say it makes since - but i appreciate your help! upgrading now!
[17:50] <wxl> have fun :)
[17:50] <ca_cabot> ty
[21:39] <wxl> ssh bfdata2
[21:39] <wxl> oooops :)