[10:21] <cmaloney> Morning
[12:53] <_stink_> mornig
[13:14] <jrwren> Good Morning
[13:14] <cmaloney> https://www.stilldrinking.org/interviewing-is-broken
[13:15] <cmaloney> “So, using whatever language you want, php, python, perl, javascript, program something that gets today’s date and time, then writes it to a file.”
[13:15] <cmaloney> Me:
[13:15] <cmaloney> $ date > today.txt
[13:15] <cmaloney> “Well. Okay then.”
[13:15] <cmaloney> Result: “We don’t feel you have the right skill set.” To be fair, I didn’t know what closure was back then, but not like I didn’t know it two hours after the interview.
[13:16] <jrwren> lol.
[13:18] <jrwren> I like the "Use InnoDB"
[13:20] <cmaloney> Yeah, that one was my favorite
[13:21] <cmaloney> next to $ date > today.txt
[13:22] <_stink_> i ask essentially zero questions that amount to a programming test.  i ask a lot of "hey you know <language or framework>, what do you like about it?  what don't you like about it?"
[13:22] <jrwren> its weird, I haven't had these interview experiences, EVER.
[13:23] <_stink_> "have you ever used any of features A, B, C, or D?  what problem were you trying to solve?"
[13:23] <jrwren> I did get asked what some C code did when I interviewed at Arbor, after claiming to not know C anymore because I hadn't used it in 10+yrs. But my response is nothing like this guys. I've never thought, "dick" after an interview question.
[13:25] <dzho> > “Then why am I using php? You know the dollar signs aren’t real money, right?”
[13:25] <cmaloney> Well, at Arbor I think they were looking for anything that had C experience
[13:26] <cmaloney> since even after my interview for an unrelated position they asked me about my C experience
[13:26] <cmaloney> so it wasn't a complete "I'm not a programmer at all, I'm a web designer and you're showing me C code" experience
[13:29] <jrwren> wow, this guys blog is fun.
[13:29] <jrwren> https://www.stilldrinking.org/chipotle-bias lol
[13:29] <jrwren> Was it Tommy Beedle?
[13:33] <cmaloney> Name is somewhat ringing a bell
[13:34] <jrwren> He likes to ask everyone C stuff.
[13:34] <jrwren> He isn't there anymore, but he was there for like 10yrs.
[13:36] <cmaloney> https://www.stilldrinking.org/things-i-send-to-recruiters
[13:38] <jrwren> cmaloney: hahaha, zomg, that one is great.
[13:44] <jrwren> hahaha, oh the setup for "I would rather be that guy’s boyfriend than work in the ad industry again."
[13:44] <jrwren> so good
[13:48] <cmaloney> Yeah
[22:15] <havenstance> evening ya'll
[22:23] <cmaloney> howdy
[22:23] <cmaloney> how is the day so far?
[22:23] <havenstance> well it's 5:30 pm here now lol how bout you man? haven't seen ya'll in quite a while now
[22:24] <havenstance> but it's been pretty good thus far
[22:31] <cmaloney> 5:30pm? you.must be central now
[22:31] <gamerchick02> g'day! and it is a good day.
[22:31] <cmaloney> so dar so good. just being myself as best i can
[22:31] <cmaloney> howdy gamerchick02
[22:36] <jrwren> its beautiful outside.
[22:36] <jrwren> not too hot, but I still got sweating biking to a meetup :)
[22:37] <greg-g> Wanna work on my team as a Sr Engineer? https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/1225209?gh_src=475f97e61 :)
[22:40] <jrwren> yes.
[22:44] <jrwren> but I'd prefer it if you hire me and then when I need to visit, we meet in Petaluma instead of SF  :)
[22:44] <jrwren> I'm looking for work. My project ended at work. There were layoffs and a mass exodus.
[22:44] <jrwren> It was a really good year and then it was a bummer of a month :(
[22:44] <greg-g> jrwren: I've been in SF at the office a total of 2 times this year.
[22:45] <greg-g> 3, maybe 4, times last year
[22:56] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ugh. Sorry to hear that. I was wondering how things were faring for you.
[22:57] <cmaloney> I knew they were having layoffs, but wasn't sure if you'd gotten hit by them
[22:57] <jrwren> I have some leads, so I'm hopeful.
[22:57] <jrwren> I haven't yet. I'm still there.
[22:57] <cmaloney> seems a common ailment
[22:57] <cmaloney> Ah, OK
[22:57] <cmaloney> Good to hear.
[22:57] <cmaloney> but yeah, GTFO
[22:58] <cmaloney> Still need to figure out how we can make a tech cooperative or something
[22:58] <cmaloney> a research lab of interesting shit that pays well and doesn't expect results
[22:59] <cmaloney> Funny; when I was younger I wanted Dungeons and Dragons to be real. Now I want fun and stable employment to be real