[00:00] <ahi2> jbase: do you have the opencl driver installed?
[00:03] <JacobTDC> Is it possible to change the color depth on Ubuntu Minimal/CLI?
[00:08] <JacobTDC> Anyone at all?
[00:08] <alle> hi
[00:08] <JacobTDC> Hi...
[00:09] <JacobTDC> Do you know if it's possible to change the color depth on Ubuntu Minimal/CLI?
[00:09] <JacobTDC> xD
[00:09] <alle> no idea. just installed xubuntu on my laptop :P
[00:09] <JacobTDC> I wasn't planning on sending that for a bit... Oops... XD
[00:18] <gambl0re> im having trouble connecting my samsung galaxy to ubuntu via usb. its not detecting. any ideas?
[00:20] <GunqqerFriithian> ith pulseaudio mixer is there any way to have the output not be the default aux port (rather a USB output device)
[00:23] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: enabled dev mode on your galaxy?
[00:23] <gambl0re> i did
[00:23] <gambl0re> please help
[00:24] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: did you slide lockscreen open on galaxy while usb connected to ubuntu?
[00:25] <gambl0re> i unlocked my phone after i plugged in my usb
[00:25] <lotuspsychje> ok
[00:25] <gambl0re> i tried following numerous guides on stackoverflow, askubuntu
[00:25] <oerheks> no, before you plugin, it must be unlocked
[00:25] <gambl0re> none is working
[00:26] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: hastebin.com the output of: tail -f /var/lock/syslog and plug out and back in phone
[00:26] <gambl0re> oerheks, it doesnt matter. i tried every single combination you can think of
[00:26] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: wich ubuntu version?
[00:26] <oerheks> it does, but oke..
[00:27] <gambl0re> tail: cannot open ‘/var/lock/syslog’ for reading: No such file or directory
[00:27] <gambl0re> lotuspsychje, 16
[00:27] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: var/log sorry
[00:28] <gambl0re> oerheks, omg, you're a genius. it worked!...NOT!
[00:28] <lotuspsychje> !joke | gambl0re
[00:28] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: we are trying to help you here...
[00:28] <gambl0re> sorry. i had to
[00:29] <gambl0re> sorry. that guy is always being a cunt to me
[00:29] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: use a hastebin in public..dont paste your whole syslog in my pm...
[00:29] <gambl0re> ok
[00:29] <gambl0re> next tiem ill do it
[00:31] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[00:31] <gambl0re> lotuspsychje, uh are done helping me?
[00:32] <gambl0re> are you..
[00:32] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[00:32] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: where is your hastebin?
[00:32] <gambl0re> i put it in your pm
[00:32] <gambl0re> i said i'll do it next time you ask me to output something
[00:32] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: told you not to pm..
[00:32] <gambl0re> i know but its already there
[00:33] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: i close malicious pms with flooding text
[00:33] <gambl0re> https://hastebin.com/jiqayoteva.nginx
[00:33] <gambl0re> there you go my friend
[00:34] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: try a few other usb ports
[00:34] <gambl0re> i did
[00:35] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: usb 2-1.2: device not accepting address 10, error -32
[00:35] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: something seems to block
[00:35] <gambl0re> hmmm interesting
[00:35] <gambl0re> so how how do we fix that
[00:36] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: are you using an usb hub?
[00:37] <gambl0re> no
[00:37] <gambl0re> direct connection
[00:37] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: usb 2 or 3?
[00:38] <gambl0re> WHAT DO YOU MEAN
[00:38] <gambl0re> i have 3 usb ports
[00:38] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: usb 2.0 or 3.0?
[00:38] <gambl0re> 2.0
[00:39] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: have you tryed on a pc with 3.0?
[00:39] <gambl0re> i dont have a pc
[00:39] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: goto your friends?
[00:39] <gambl0re> theres nothing else you can tihnk of?
[00:40] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: i am not a magician...if something blocks the usb connection..
[00:40] <gambl0re> i never said you were a magician.
[00:40] <gambl0re> nevermind. thanks
[00:40] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: did your phone EVER worked on this same pc?
[00:40] <gambl0re> i dont know why people have get defensive
[00:41] <gambl0re> thanks for your help
[00:41] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: im not defensive
[00:41] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: im looking at your facts...
[00:41] <gambl0re> whats with the magician statement
[00:41] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: it means i try to help, but i cant do magic
[00:42] <gambl0re> i never asked you to perform magic. i simply asked if you had any other ideas
[00:42] <gambl0re> i dont feel like getting into an argument. thanks i appreciate your time
[00:43] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: i told you, if syslog says the connection refuses..not sure if something else will work
[00:43] <gambl0re> thats all you had to say
[00:43] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: so lets try again, did your phone ever worked on this pc?.
[00:44] <gambl0re> i never tried on ubuntu. i remember it worked years ago on a windows
[00:44] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: on any ubuntu version or any other Os?
[00:44] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: wich ubuntu version and kernel please?
[00:45] <gambl0re> 3.16.0-77-generic
[00:45] <gambl0re> ubuntu 16
[00:46] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[00:46] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: system not up to date?
[00:47] <gambl0re> im not using the latest os if thats what you mean
[00:47] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: download a latest ubuntu .iso and try your phone on a liveusb please
[00:47] <gambl0re> ok ill it out tomorrow. its getting late over here.
[00:47] <gambl0re> thanks for your help. sorry if i was being rude to you.
[00:47] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: hastebin the output of sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade plz
[00:48] <gambl0re> right now?
[00:48] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: yes, lets check if your system is up to date
[00:49] <gambl0re> theres already like more hundred lines of code and still running
[00:49] <guiverc> gambl0re: fyi: 3.16 is a 14.04.2 kernel (14.04.3 then used 3.19), as lotuspsychje mentioned 16.04 came with 4.4 kernel - somethign is wrong your end in my opinion
[00:49] <gambl0re> it says i need to download 338MB of archives
[00:50] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: how long have you not updated your system??
[00:50] <gambl0re> long ass time
[00:50] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: why do you avoid that?
[00:50] <gambl0re> i think im running out of GB's
[00:51] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: clean some free space?
[00:51] <gambl0re> https://hastebin.com/aroyiwayig.sql
[00:51] <gambl0re> how much GB's do i have remaining?
[00:52] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: 12 & 52gig free is not bad right>?
[00:52] <gambl0re> 52 is my sd card i think
[00:53] <gambl0re> 52 is my sd card i think/
[00:53] <gambl0re> so i have 12GB remaining on my hdd?
[00:53] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: thats what it says
[00:54] <gambl0re> ok im gonna run the update
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | gambl0re
[00:54] <gambl0re> do you think this will fix it?
[00:54] <gambl0re> its updating now
[00:54] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: not sure, but then at least we know its not due an old system..
[00:54] <gambl0re> ok one sec
[00:55] <gambl0re> how long is this gonna take
[00:55] <gambl0re> 338MB
[00:56] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: depends on your isp speed
[00:56] <gambl0re> 50% done
[01:00] <gambl0re> ok its gonna take a while. what do you want me to do after its done updating
[01:00] <gambl0re> any specific commands?
[01:00] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: after big updates= reboot first
[01:02] <gambl0re> and then?
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: then we check again your usb connection
[01:03] <gambl0re> you want me to just try again to connect?
[01:03] <gambl0re> after reboot?
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: thats what your problem was right?
[01:03] <gambl0re> yea. i thought you wanted me to run some commands first
[01:04] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: expectations never match reality
[01:08] <gambl0re> lotuspsychje, done!
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: did you reboot?
[01:09] <gambl0re> ill do it now
[01:09] <gambl0re> ill be back
[01:11] <Glorfindel> no, it's "Ah'll be bahck"
[01:12] <gambl0re> rebbooted
[01:13] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: uname -a please
[01:13] <gambl0re> no worries.
[01:13] <gambl0re> Linux ricky-ThinkPad 3.16.0-77-generic #99~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 19:17:10 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: thats the same kernel you started with...
[01:14] <gambl0re> i dont know what to tell you
[01:14] <gambl0re> i ran those update commands
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: im not gonna help you unless you update your system real
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: there's no point testing things on outdated kernels/packages
[01:16] <gambl0re> i ran  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade command
[01:16] <gambl0re> isnt that what you asked me to do?
[01:17] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: updating results in newer kernels..
[01:17] <gambl0re> ok how do i update my kernel?
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: by updating your system
[01:18] <gambl0re> you want me to upgrade my entire os?
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: why did you not hasetbin
[01:19] <gambl0re> cause it was only one line
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: i mean the output of updating
[01:20] <gambl0re> are you serious? there were hundreds and hundreds of lines
[01:20] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: i specificly asked you to
[01:20] <gambl0re> i wouldnt be able to copy the entire thing
[01:20] <gambl0re> its impossible for me to
[01:21] <Fizzik> you can write the output of a command using '>' filename then you could use gist or pastebinit application from the cli
[01:21] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: ok listen. unless you come back and prove you have the right kernel,  cant help you anymore
[01:21] <gambl0re> ok i really have to sleep now.
[01:21] <gambl0re> lotuspsychje, no worries. thanks again for your help
[01:41] <Gigglebyte> I need to reduce the sensitivity on my touchpad, and wondering what commands I should use?  I took a look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/483707/14-04-touchpad-is-too-sensitive but this article assumes that I am usng Synaptic and I don't know what I am using as a package manager.
[01:43] <sarawhy00000> Gigglebyte: you can sudo apt-get synaptic. i do not know the answer to you issue with the mouse though!
[01:44] <sarawhy00000> Gigglebyte: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:45] <sarawhy00000> Gigglebyte: !synaptic
[01:45] <pumba> good advice sarawhy00000
[01:45] <sarawhy00000> !synaptic
[01:46] <Gigglebyte> sarawhy00000>  I just followed the instruction found here https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131432/which-driver-is-handling-my-touchpad the following feedback was displayed after entering lsmod|grep -iE "input":   input_leds and
[01:48] <Gigglebyte> sarawhy00000>  I followed your advice and received the following error message:  Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[01:53] <platz> any idea why in can't apt-get install libgtk-3-dev ? (Depends: libgtk-3-0 (= 3.22.30-1ubuntu1) but 3.22.306-1ubuntu1 is to be installed)
[01:58] <Bashing-om> platz: What releasse do you have .. and where did you get the app ' apt policy libgtk-3-dev libgtk-3-0 ' . - A PPA in the mix here ?
[02:03] <Gigglebyte> How do I find out what touchpad I have on my laptop?  I am trying to reduce the sensitivity.
[02:06] <__michael> hello
[02:11] <Bashing-om> Gigglebyte: ' cat /sys/class/input/mouse0/device/name ' say ?
[02:12] <ExoUNX> evening
[02:12] <ExoUNX> So, I finally settled on Ubuntu 18.04 over Fedora 28 to my primary OS
[02:13] <ExoUNX> However, my biggest need after that is fully virtualizing Windows 10 with PCIe passthrough
[02:13] <ExoUNX> Should I use qemu on Ubuntu 18.04?
[02:24] <Gigglebyte> Bashing-om>  I ended up using cat /proc/bus/input/devices  Would that do the same thing?  I came up with a name, but the command for reducing touch pad sensitivity isn't accepting it, or I am doing something wrong.
[02:25] <Gigglebyte> I need to run an errand but will return in an hour.
[02:27] <__michael> would anyone like to help me with ubuntu 18.04 and iptables and redirect rules? i’m desperately trying to get this to work as it did in 14.04
[02:27] <ExoUNX> bbl
[02:29] <Gigglebyte> Looks like I won't be going out, and can still work on the problem of reducing touch pad sensitivity.  Are these the correct commands for doing this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/483707/14-04-touchpad-is-too-sensitive
[02:31] <Gigglebyte> What is the correct command for fixing the Touch Pad Sensitivity Problem?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> Gigglebyte: ^^ is your touch pad a Elantech device ? per the /proc/ output .
[02:41] <Gigglebyte> Bashing-om>  The results of xinput list indicates it is SynPS/2 Synaptics Touch Pad
[02:41] <tomreyn> say... to prepare for debootstrap on an uefi system, should one mount --bind /sys/firmware/efi/efivars /target/sys/firmware/efi/efivars  ?
[02:43] <Gigglebyte> I tried running xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics Touch" "Synaptics Finger" 50 90 255 and get an error indicating the device not found.
[02:45] <alejandro> hi
[02:45] <Gigglebyte> Also got error indicating device not found when trying the following commands  xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics" "Synaptics Finger" 50 90 255 and  xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad" "Synaptics Finger" 50 90 255, and  xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics" "Synaptics Finger" 20 20
[02:45] <kk4ewt> Gigglebyte, are you running gnome
[02:46] <Bashing-om> !info xserver-xorg-input-synaptics bionic
[02:46] <Gigglebyte> kk4ewt>  Yes, and had no choice that is what came installed when I bought the computer.  I tried installing xfce and he processor overheated.  So I have decided to completely get rid of the OS and install Debian stable with xfce.
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Gigglebyte: ^ is a driver loaded ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' ?
[02:47] <Gigglebyte> kk4ewt>  Right now I can't even boot from a boot from a memory stick for reasons unknown.  I want to get rid of that crypt thing at startup.
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Gigglebyte: If you now have debian installed, you do need to talk to debian .
[02:50] <Gigglebyte> Bashing-om>  Debian is not installed.  The original POP!_OS (Ubuntu with a label) and gnome are installed and God only knows why.  Gnome's problems are legendary and many of the toolkits for the desktop are broken.
[02:50] <Gigglebyte> I am getting error messages when running  dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics Give me a moment and I will paste it to a pastebin.
[02:53] <Gigglebyte> Bashing-om>  Here is the results of the command you suggested https://pastebin.com/2A7hrxJN
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Gigglebyte: You "should" get seomthing link this as an pitput : http://termbin.com/ob8i .
[02:54] <Gigglebyte> Bashing-om>  That is what I got.  So what now?
[02:55] <kk4ewt> so pop os is based on ubuntu 18.04
[02:55] <Gigglebyte> I would have been a lot better off if System76 didn't put anything on this laptop.  I have spent an enormous amount of time trying to fix all the bugs.  Gnome is well known for having a lot of problems, and I really would be better off with no desktop at all.
[02:55] <kk4ewt> Gigglebyte,  wrong
[02:55] <kk4ewt> but yes reinstall with what you want
[02:57] <Gigglebyte> kk4ewt>  The subject of this thread is not reinstalling an OS, but how to fix the touchpad sensitivie ty problem which just about every purchaser of System76 has had.  The online comments suggest the problem can be fixed, but I haven't been able to get the desired result by running the commands suggested online.  What do you recommend?
[02:57] <Bashing-om> !info gpointing-device-settings trusty
[03:00] <Gigglebyte> I am going to take a dinner break, but also need to do some paperwork for work after dinner.  Not sure i will have enough time to continue working on the Touchpad sensitivity problem.  May have to continue with this problem tomorrow.  I would appreciate someone sending me a message with memoserv if they can figure out a command for fixing the problem. In the meantime I am trying to type carefully and avoid touching the
[03:00] <Gigglebyte> mousepad so that I don't get a mess while typing and don't get the cursor jumping and erasing things.
[03:01] <Gigglebyte> kk4ewt>  Do you work for System76?
[03:02] <Gigglebyte> Might be back later, and thanks everyone for your help.
[03:23] <royal_screwup21> One of the options for a command I'm interested in is: -X NAME=VALUE How do I run this? <cmd> -X NAME="stuff"?
[03:35] <aliendude5300> A friend is looking to get a new laptop. Any idea if the "ASUS F505ZA-DB31" would be Ubuntu compatible?
[03:37] <guest007> hi!
[03:38] <guest007> I recently did an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade followed by a reboot
[03:38] <guest007> After the reboot, Network Manager could not detect my wifi card anymore
[03:39] <guest007> I did a "lshw  -class network" and it showed my broadcom card
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> guest007: try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:43] <guest007> what does that mean?
[03:46] <scientes> what is the best way to debug random crashes?
[03:46] <scientes> should i buy a serial adapter?
[03:57] <MuliCNST> anybody know how to troubleshoot a NFS mount that's being accesss via rtorrent?
[03:57] <MuliCNST> core OS is ubuntu 16.05LTS
[03:59] <guest007_> network manager stop recognising my wifi interfaces after an apt-get update
[04:00] <scientes> guest007_, what did you install?
[04:02] <scientes> guest007_, how many  wifi interfaces?
[04:02] <scientes> guest007_, paste the output of "iw" and "ip addr"
[04:02] <scientes> "iw list"
[04:07] <guest007_> it is empty
[04:08] <MuliCNST> guest007_, have you tried to update your WIC drivers?
[04:08] <guest007_> scientes: i just ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Wasn't sure what was installed.
[04:14] <scientes> yeah try going to the older kernel when you boot
[04:14] <scientes> if you upgraded your kernel
[04:15] <scientes> gone
[04:16] <guest007> Sorry, did not realised I was disconnected
[04:17] <guest007> im using another computer with bad wifi connection
 yeah try going to the older kernel when you boot
 if you upgraded your kernel
[04:20] <guest007> could you advice how I can boot to a new kernel?
[04:20] <scientes> select "advanced options for ubuntu" in grub
[04:20] <guest007> i mean an old kernel
[04:20] <guest007> ahh okay
[04:20] <scientes> sometimes that doesn't show up however
[04:20] <scientes> i think you hold shift to make it show up
[04:20] <guest007> wifi dongles work though
[04:25] <guest007> yea, 4.13.0-45 worked
[04:26] <guest007> 4.15.0-45
[04:26] <guest007> was the one with the wifi problem
[04:28] <guest007> should i file a bug or smtg?
[04:31] <cry_wolf> Hey !
[04:48] <scientes> guest007, if you file a bug you need to know the details of the device that isn't working
[04:48] <scientes> so you have to boot a kernel that it works on
[05:07] <senaps> if i execute a `ps aux -a | grep something`, if there is no process it will show the something i have wrote. is there a flag to stop grep from doing it?
[05:07] <cry_wolf> hey
[05:09] <cry_wolf> t
[05:10] <guiverc> cry_wolf: if you have a Ubuntu Support question; please just ask it (try and keep to a single line, and be patient waiting for responses).  Most people do other things, but will answer if they can (and when they can)
[05:35] <gde33> since forever trying to paste in facebook produces all kinds of strange glitches
[05:36] <gde33> I read some discussion where a clean ff profile is suggested
[05:36] <gde33> I have nightly sync using mozilla sync and it has the same issue
[05:37] <gde33> trying to paste in the post area or in the comments displays the text but not in the same layer as the cursor. It isn't preserved either.
[05:38] <gde33> when trying to paste in the chat the chat vanishes and refuses to come back up unless I reload.
[05:39] <gde33> humm now nightly works
[05:39] <gde33> ghosts I tell you, ghosts!
[05:39] <gde33> :P
[06:14] <cry_wolf> hi
[06:44] <cry_wolf> l
[06:50] <gartral> hey all, I'm in need of help, I have an older laptop that's exhibiting weird symptoms, the mouse is "clicking through" the foreground window, it's an on old intel core2duo laptop with intel integrated graphics
[06:51] <gartral> it was just upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04
[06:54] <gartral> cry_wolf: what's your issue?
[07:01] <skwingar> Like the mouse is hiding behind windows you're trying to click into or it's clicking thru those windows to background?
[07:02] <gartral> skwingar: it's visablew, but clicking through the active winow
[07:02] <gartral> window*
[07:03] <skwingar> I've had that same trouble often in windows never in Ubuntu. My fix was always going back into mouse settings and unchecking hide mouse pointer when .... Can't remember what all the setting days
[07:03] <skwingar> Says*
[07:03] <gartral> skwingar: well that's no help :/
[07:04] <skwingar> I know, but was hoping there may be something similar in that regard.
[07:14] <cry_wolf> Hey
[07:38] <cry_wolf> whats up
[07:42] <cry_wolf> d
[07:43] <cry_wolf> !
[07:44] <cry_wolf> 1
[07:45] <ducasse> cry_wolf: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:53] <Taggnostr2> hello
[07:56] <Taggnostr2> I have a machine with ubuntu 17.04 32bit installed on a ssd, and 2 hdd under lvm (the ssd is not under lvm).  The ssd has two partitions, 1 for / (20G) and one for /home (100G), then I have other lvm partitions under /home/* for the hdds.  Can I safely format and install 18.04 on the / partition, leaving all the other partitions untouched?
[08:02] <zorin_> hiee
[08:05] <zorin_> hello...
[08:05] <zorin_> anyone here
[08:06] <cry_wolf> hi
[08:13] <cy_> da
[08:13] <cy_> 大叫好
[08:14] <cy_> 大家好，我系渣渣会
[08:14] <farsight> hello
[08:14] <neure> Hello, World!
[08:14] <blackflow> !cn | cy_
[08:14] <cy_>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:15] <farsight> anybodyhere？
[08:16] <cry_wolf> yep !
[08:16] <farsight> 你们都是蛇皮吗
[08:16] <nibaba> 有人吗
[08:16] <farsight> 名字一个比一个骚
[08:16] <farsight_> asd
[08:16] <farsight_> 你是谁
[08:17] <farsight> interesting
[08:17] <nibaba> nibaba
[08:17] <farsight_> one
[08:17] <farsight> 以后我们就在这儿搞了？
[08:17] <farsight__> ys
[08:17] <farsight__> yes
[08:18] <nibaba> 范老师来了
[08:18] <ducasse> only english in here, please
[08:18] <farsight__> 很好很好很好很好很好很好
[08:18] <farsight> 王总不在的第一天
[08:18] <farsight> 想他
[08:18] <ducasse> !cn
[08:19] <nibaba> 这个在寝室也可以聊吗
[08:19] <farsight> 不知道
[08:19] <farsight> 理论上我们这样就脱离了张钰的监视
[08:20] <SwedeMike> !cn | farsight
[08:20] <farsight> 舒服
[08:20] <LZC> a
[08:20] <LZC> f
[08:20] <nibaba> join#ubuntu-tw
[08:21] <blackflow> wow.
[08:21] <ducasse> \o/
[08:24] <barc0d4> hello
[08:32] <yellow> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu 16.04 but I need to run a legacy site using php 5.5.9. Any clean/easy way to get this installed? The usual ppa:ondrej doesn't include 5.5 any more. I'm going to look at migrating the sites if time/budget permits but that seems unlikely at this point.
[08:35] <blackflow> yellow: clean/easy? nope. that version of PHP is long gone. even if you compiled it from source, it's probably very much vulnerable.
[08:39] <yellow> blackflow: thanks for the info. it's not ideal but I'll have to put time aside to review and update the site
[08:43] <mr_lou> I've had some file-date problems for many years now. I record videos at 9 am with my camera. Time is set correctly in the camera. When I view the content of the SD card on Ubuntu, it says the file was created at 10 am. I've set the time correctly in Ubuntu and set the correct timezone I'm in. There is no timezone to be set in the camera.
[08:44] <mr_lou> If I call a video command (melt) on Ubuntu and output information about the video, it correctly says that it was create at 9 am. But Nautilus says 10 am.
[08:48] <new_gen> does gnome tweaks ( gnome tweak tools) slow down computer ??? i have low end laptop
[08:58] <multifractal> Dell 9365 with Ubuntu 16.04 - screen keeps going black after 15 seconds of not touching it. Also keeps not switching on, unless I disconnect the battery and hold down the power button for several seconds, then reconnect everything.
[09:02]  * pavlushka seems like a bug
[09:02] <swolf154> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570   @ 1.66GHz (998MHz) • Memory: Physical: 1.9 GiB Total (1.2 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 12.9 GB / 92.5 GB (79.6 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx D
[09:02] <swolf154> MI Bridge • Uptime: 28m 29s
[09:04] <pavlushka> multifractal: post it as question in launchpad.net and if it is a bug, then you can turn your question into a bug report easily
[09:21] <aLeSD> is it right to install python modules by apt ?
[09:24] <cry_wolf> how can I move and resize windows in Awesome without this sort of invisible gap ?
[09:25] <blackflow> aLeSD: yes, but it really depends on what your use case is. You can have virtualenvs with specific pip-installed modules, and they can all share the global modules you installed with apt. At any rate *NEVER* install to global namespace (under /usr/lib/python*) without apt.
[09:26] <aLeSD> blackflow, ok, thanks
[09:28] <pipixia> 000
[09:29] <metaldemon> Hey, can I ask for help with ubuntu based distros here?
[09:30] <guiverc> metaldemon: no, only Ubuntu and official flavors (kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-mate, ....)
[09:31] <metaldemon> guiverc: ah okay. so not for zorin os?
[09:31] <guiverc> nope
[09:32] <metaldemon> ah okay, that's alright.
[09:33] <metaldemon> guiverc: long shot: can there be any difference when it comes to drivers on ubuntu based distros?
[09:35] <guiverc> any difference - yes.  90%+ will be the same; but differences one ubuntu-based can cause problems the upstream distro doesn't  (which applies with debian [upstream of ubuntu] though ubuntu & debian are very close..)
[09:37] <metaldemon> I wanted to breathe new life into my old 2014 ish asus laptop. any OS works on it but the asus touchpad drivers are always an issue. On the linux side it does not seem to find a suitable driver for it.
[09:37] <metaldemon> I figured since Zorin is based on ubuntu that I could try my luck here
[09:37] <blackflow> depends on your definition of "very close". other than both using dpkg ecosystem, and ubuntu being "based on" debian's unstable repo (plus modifications to those packages), I find them significantly different distros.
[09:39] <metaldemon> when I try: "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" I don't see the touchpad listed anywhere. A quora page says this indicates it could mean I am not using the right kernel or there is just no support for this touchpad. what should I do?
[09:40] <blackflow> metaldemon: are you continuing to ask about zorin? we can't really support that here.
[09:41] <metaldemon> alright, I'll try to install ubuntu first then. let's hope it works
[09:42]  * ZahiYang 
[09:43]  * ZahiYang 
[09:45] <Lope> I booted an ubuntu 16.04 live ISO and afterwards pulled the flash drive out while it's running. But now I get I/O errors when I try run firefox etc :)
[09:45] <Lope> I was hoping it would run entirely in ram
[09:45] <blackflow> Lope: well, nope.
[09:46] <Lope> pity :)
[09:46] <Lope> Is Kubuntu just ubuntu with kde as it's DE instead of Gnome?
[09:47] <Lope> I don't really feel comfortable using KDE for some reason. I'd rather install ubuntu server and then install kde desktop ontop of that.
[09:47] <Lope> But it would be nice to have an ubuntu live USB with KDE instead of gnome.
[09:48] <Lope> Is there an option to make a persistent one that I can install KDE on and configure with my own aliases and so on?
[09:53] <ppf> Lope: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[10:00] <dreamcat4> hi there. on 18.04 and trying to get muic (songs) results in gnome search here
[10:00] <dreamcat4> to achieve this, [it seems like] i need to get tracker results to show up in gnome search
[10:01] <dreamcat4> because when i use 'tracker search songname' on the cmdline, that works just fine.
[10:01] <dreamcat4> my music library is on another disk and bind mounted to ~/Music
[10:02] <dreamcat4> found this extension https://github.com/hamiller/tracker-search-provider
[10:02] <dreamcat4> but it does not work, ! in gnome 3.28.2. incompatible.
[10:02] <dreamcat4> surely it cannot be this difficult eh?
[10:04] <ubuntutriedforti> Hi! I'm having a systemd-udev using 90% of the CPU and I'm looking for someone who can know how to fix it. Thanks in advance!
[10:05] <ubuntutriedforti> I noticed this after a restart following a switch frm 17.10 to 18.04
[10:06] <ubuntutriedforti> (the switch didn't happen smoothly i even had to go to recovery mode and do dpkg --configure -a)
[10:07] <ubuntutriedforti> There are actually two systemd-udev running
[10:08] <ubuntutriedforti> one with 95%+ cpu usage and another with 29% as reported by htop
[10:10] <ubuntutriedforti> anyone?
[10:11] <blackflow> !patience | ubuntutriedforti
[10:12] <blackflow> ubuntutriedforti: see bug #1759836
[10:13] <ubuntutriedforti> blackflow: thanks let me see
[10:14] <ubuntutriedforti> so seems to be something related to bluetooth
[10:14] <ubuntutriedforti> how can i disable it for good as i never use it?
[10:16] <blackflow> ubuntutriedforti: OTOH, apt remove bluez   ?   it's also a solution in comment #32
[10:20] <ubuntutriedforti> blackflow: i just looked at /var/log/syslog and i see a lot of lines with systemd-udev with usb it seems and not bluetooth
[10:20] <ubuntutriedforti> that said i'm removing bluetooth now regardless
[10:22] <Neepu> Hi. I'm currently using netplan.io that ubuntu 18.04 has enabled by default, but it does not have support to configure "WiFi Direct/p2p" in its configuration. But i have the option to fix this in the generated wpa_supplicant config. Problem is this config gets overwritten for each reboot, suggestions to how i can fix this?
[10:24] <ubuntutriedforti> blackflow: some good news: the second systemd-udev instance had cpu usage normal now after removing bluez, but i still have the main systemd-udev instance using 70% now and it's maybe the one related to usb
[10:26] <asdfgh> hey guys i need to use CUDA with python
[10:26] <Rumen> Hi there, I have a problem with virtualbox - Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[10:26] <asdfgh> where can i find the CUDA folder?
[10:26] <Rumen> I try to install sudo apt install --reinstall virtualbox-dkms
[10:27] <Shabbysheik> Rumen: https://askubuntu.com/questions/41118/virtualbox-kernel-driver-not-installed
[10:27] <Rumen> but the result is: https://pastebin.com/PxeiKuQx     ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-4.17.8-041708-generic is not supported
[10:27] <Rumen> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.17.8-041708-generic (x86_64)
[10:27] <blackflow> ubuntutriedforti: I really wouldn't know, I just remembered there was that bug reported about it.
[10:28] <Rumen> sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[10:28] <Rumen> sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[10:29] <ubuntutriedforti> blackflow: thanks for your help, after restarting the cpu usage of both systemd-udev are back to normal
[10:30] <ubuntutriedforti> so getting rid of bluez was the solution
[10:30] <blackflow> ubuntutriedforti: great! :) so I guess it _was_ only about bluez
[10:30] <ubuntutriedforti> but strange to see such a bug not being fixed yet
[10:31] <blackflow> Rumen: well yes, that kernel is apparently not yet supported. where did you get it?
[10:31] <ubuntutriedforti> as an ubuntu user from 2007 it's the first time i find such a cpu consuming bug not being fixed anyway goodbye now blackflow :)
[10:34] <Rumen> Here sudo ukuu --install-latest
[10:34] <Rumen> I have problem with the Nvidia card driver and thought that the new kernel will fix the issue
[10:34] <Rumen> NONE
[10:35] <blackflow> Rumen: I have no idea what that is, but that's not officially supported kernel on Bionic, not even via HWE yet. Also, as of kernel 4.16, virtualbox guest drivers are now part of mainline and there could be conflict with that.
[10:35] <blackflow> Rumen: what nvidia problem do you have?
[10:38] <Rumen> When I start in any browser Google Maps the computer freeze, If I start LibreOffice the computer freeze, some of the games run - perfect (Nexius as test), some freeze the computer (Eurotruck Simulator - as test), Blender run well. All this happens after I changed the graphic card from NVS300 to GT730 and changed the driver
[10:38] <blackflow> Rumen: oh yeah, you did mention something some days ago. I take it you tried the latest proprietary driver from the graphics PPA?
[10:40] <Rumen> Yes it install it as manually installed driver and doesn't run well as well and also I saw I have many Kernel modules failed to load when start the computer
[10:40] <blackflow> Rumen: with this unsupported 4.17 kernel?
[10:41] <Rumen> no that was with the old kernel 4.15
[10:41] <Rumen> I got this 4.17 because I thought that will fix the issue with the kernel modules and I suggest some of the are the Nvidia modules ... but it did not fix it
[10:45] <blackflow> Rumen: no you can't just randomly install a new kernel of a major new version. when you revert to default Bionic kernel, what moduls "failed to load" and is there a related error in dmesg?
[10:47] <ohcibi> i'm trying to find the right keyboard layout and i'm almost done i just cant print € and ß symbols.. xmodmap -pke show them to be bound to the right keycombination (which is iso_level3_shift-shift-2 for € and iso_level3_shift+s) and also xev reports the right keycode emitted when using the combination. the characters however are nowhere printed
[10:47] <Rumen> Ahh good question because I try to return to the normal version as it was suggested to purge the old kernels :)
[10:54] <Rumen> OK I installed 4.15.0-29.31 will reboot and start that kernel
[11:04] <bozsikarmand> Hello :)
[11:08] <bozsikarmand> I would like to ask for some help.
[11:08] <bozsikarmand> :~$ systemd-analyze
 Startup finished in 13.393s (firmware) + 3.920s (loa
[11:09] <guiverc> bozsikarmand: just ask your question (try to keep to a single line, and please be patient, if people know the answer, they'll reply when they can)
[11:09] <Sh4d03_> Hi all, looking to jail certain sftp users to their home directory. I've found a few different guides online, but want to know if there's a preferred method of doing this. Use case: I want the users to be able to connect, drop a zip file and disconnect. They should be able to do nothing else.
[11:09] <bozsikarmand> guiverc, sure! :)
[11:11] <kylewoolley> Hey
[11:11] <kylewoolley> How are you ?
[11:12] <kylewoolley> How are you ?
[11:12] <Sh4d03_> kylewoolley: are you addressing anyone in particular?
[11:12] <Sh4d03_> o_O
[11:14] <bozsikarmand> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7BS47DQPWq/
[11:15] <bozsikarmand> Here you can read my first question.
[11:29] <new_gen> Ubuntu comminty theme not working properly. Ubuntu login is showing in Top left most corner . In software center it shown to be app drawer icon.
[11:30] <Rumen> blackflow: it is writte to check "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service"   for the failed modules   and the result is here:  https://pastebin.com/q7gBJwic
[11:31] <Rumen> I back to 4.15 and now there is no issue with the VirtualBox
[11:31] <new_gen> this is how it supposed to look: https://imgur.com/a/zNmkCIx
[11:32] <new_gen> but this how it looks in my computer : https://imgur.com/a/JdMm1kW
[11:34] <Devtron>  the NTP Chrony, i was looking in to making it more secure on the network,  NTPD has some settings (restrict commands), and i am unable to find the chrony counterpart for it, anyone know what these settings are to make it secure on an internal network
[11:35] <blackflow> Rumen: that's a truncated output. please pastebin    journalctl -b -u systemd-modules-load.service
[11:37] <JimBuntu> Devtron, try to limit your cross-posting
[11:39] <Devtron> JimBuntu: I do, but in this case i am in a bit of a hurry :/
[11:39] <farsight__> dsd
[11:39] <farsight__> sb
[11:41] <farsight__> dsd
[11:43] <blackflow> Devtron: chrony is not an ntp server. those restrictions were for ntp.org's ntp because it's also a server.
[11:43] <Devtron> ah
[11:44] <blackflow> if you want a bit more secure ntp client, though, try openntpd. it has the ability to constraint possible time span by checking against a https source
[11:44] <abb4s> hey every body , i want to install torch on ubuntu , but in installing while it give CMAKE error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KkBwBsGkdh/ , i installed build-essential and g++ by apt-get , but it stlle give same error , where is the problem ??
[11:46] <new_gen> tomreyn: are you there
[11:46] <new_gen> I got only two option "ubuntu" and "ubuntu communittheme snap"
[11:47] <tomreyn> new_gen: i can't help then, neither ehre nor in #ubuntu-offtopic (where we last talked)
[11:47] <new_gen> okay
[12:00] <joaopaulosr> hey guys, i have a question about old gpus in ubuntu 18. here in my company we have some legacy zotac 210 (512mb, 64bits) and we think they could be useful just to allow us to plug two monitors per station. is there some kind of "system checkpoint" that i can use in order to try out this gpu and go back if anything goes wrong? (lvm/btrfs snapshots are not an option)
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:04] <blackflow> joaopaulosr: nope. question is if you'll even have to change anything in the system. that's nvidia, right? there's a driver in the kernel and if that doesn't work, you can install, and later uninstall, the proprietary driver via regular packages.
[12:06] <joaopaulosr> blackflow: ow, i see. my concern was that once i install the gpu it could somehow mess with my system and i would be unable to remove it and get back to my onboard one
[12:06] <joaopaulosr> thanks for your advice :)
[12:06] <blackflow> this is not windows :)
[12:07] <nofrex> IT ISN'T?
[12:07] <nofrex> **** I'm in the wrong channel
[12:07] <nofrex> :P
[12:07] <blackflow> well not _yet_ at least, MS didn't yet purchase Canonical.
[12:07] <Rumen> Sure OK https://pastebin.com/9Zzun9m7
[12:09] <blackflow> Rumen: you have a typo somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d/...   maybe blacklist.conf.   try this and please pastebin:   grep -ri "off" /etc/modprobe.d/
[12:10] <blackflow> Rumen: or even /etc/modules  so please pastebin that too
[12:12] <blackflow> Rumen: also   grep -ri "off" /etc/modules-load.d    I think it's there actually, that service doens't touch the modprobe dirs I think
[12:13] <ForrestX> hello, how can I change my username?
[12:13] <ForrestX> sudo usermod -l newUsername oldUsername
[12:13] <ForrestX> this is correct?
[12:13] <ForrestX> and then there is this: sudo usermod -d /home/newHomeDir -m newUsername
[12:13] <ForrestX> should I run both?
[12:14] <ForrestX> and how do I go about it when I want to do it via live system?
[12:16] <ForrestX> am I banned here?
[12:16] <Southern_Gentlem> nope
[12:17] <ForrestX> huh
[12:29] <Fuchs> ForrestX:  usermod --login NewName --move-home --home /home/newname oldname
[12:30] <oerheks> Fuchs, he got help in ##linux, changing from live iso
[12:31] <Fuchs> oh, that's also fine
[12:32] <Rumen> Here is the first https://pastebin.com/x0ZPaPWy
[12:33] <Rumen> This one doesn't show anything    grep -ri "off" /etc/modules-load.d
[12:41] <bozsikarmand> I am currently using an nvidia GTX960 in my desktop computer. I am using the default proprietary driver (390.48) sipped by Ubuntu 18.04. When I use the driver I have a much slower boot performance (I have a Samsung SSD 850 EVO as a system drive). At first I just set the order of displays in gnome's displays menu. Then I set brightness, display arrangement, and such things in nvidia-settings (running with sudo) I just save it to xorg
[12:41] <bozsikarmand> and nvidia-settings-rc via the built in buttons. Unfortunately at the next boot the changes are not applied automatically, I have to run nvidia-settings manually.
[12:42] <bozsikarmand> Some sites and apps (likeFacebook videos/Youtube or copying files in Nautilus) can override this unfortunately. How can I make these settings permanent?
[12:51] <blackflow> Rumen: what about /usr/lib/modules-load.d/   or   /run/modules-load.d/  ?
[12:58] <bozsikarmand> bck
[13:01] <rev__> hey! do you to run logrotate through a cronjob, cuz the logrotate conf includes the line "hourly/monthly". doesn't log rotate have it's way to run every minute without it needing to be added to a cronjob?
[13:02] <blackflow> rev__: nope.
[13:03] <blackflow> rev__: also, it runs daily by default.
[13:04] <lambdoid_> Should I use xorg or Wayland as my display server?
[13:05] <oerheks> lambdoid_, try wayland, and use xorg as a fall back when things don't work for you
[13:05] <jack_fu> hello
[13:05] <rev__> blackflow: so logrotate and cronjob go hand in hand? yes it runs daily by defaullt...are you saying my crontab file has an entry for logrotate to run daily by default?
[13:05] <jack_fu> hello
[13:06] <jack_fu> 收到
[13:06] <blackflow> rev__: logrotate installs a startup script in /etc/cron.daily/
[13:08] <lambdoid_> is wayland better than xorg?
[13:08] <blackflow> "better" is subjective and depends on use case
[13:08] <blackflow> but yes, wayland is designed to be more secure and probably, one day, replace xorg completely.
[13:09] <blackflow> and btw, wayland is a protocol, so it boils down to the quality of individual compositors
[13:09] <tomeaton17> if you have an nvidia card then wayland is not ideal at the moment
[13:10] <blackflow> that too. though I'm not sore if "ideal" or "possible at all" are right words :)
[13:11] <rev__> blackflow: don't have a linux machine on desk, so...can you maybe share your crontab file?
[13:11] <lambdoid_> I have an nvidia 1060
[13:11] <alkisg> Hi, when is 18.04.1 coming out, July 26th or August 2nd? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[13:11] <lambdoid_> Last time I installed ubuntu I told gdm to login with xorg using nouveau which broke the system
[13:11] <lambdoid_> I had to install windows
[13:12] <lambdoid_> I was autologging into xorg on startup and it froze
[13:12] <lambdoid_> I should have installed the nvidia drivers before telling gdm to log into xorg
[13:12]  * lambdoid_ headdesk
[13:14] <blackflow> rev__: it's not a crontab, logrotate is using the default daily cron directory where scripts to be launched, daily, reside installed by packages.
[13:17] <rev__> blackflow: the cron.daily dir?
[13:18] <t0m80w> Hello, just a quick question. I'm very new to linux. My bluetooth adapter has become disabled, and it wont allow me to reenable it via the toggle switch at the top of the bluetooth options menu. My laptop is a dell XPS13. Thanks :-)
[13:18] <blackflow> rev__: yes, there's /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
[13:19] <tomreyn> t0m80w: is there a keyboard combo to enable / disable it? either for bluetooth or airplane mode?
[13:19] <blackflow> rev__: there's daily, weekly and monthly dirs, scripts inside are laucnhed by run-parts defined in master crontab at /etc/crontab
[13:19] <rev__> ah got it thanks! may paste the /etc/cron.daily/logrotate file here?
[13:20] <blackflow> !paste
[13:20] <t0m80w> @tomreyn That was my first thought too (had been caught out with that on windoze computers before) but the hotkey doesn't seem to make any difference.
[13:20] <lambdoid_> windows is a gigantic pile of steaming sh*t
[13:21] <lambdoid_> I can't get linux subsystem working
[13:21] <lambdoid_> it's too buggy'
[13:21] <lambdoid_> so I think I will uninstall windows and install linux
[13:21] <blackflow> rev__: wait, are you asking _me_ to paste that for you?
[13:26] <oerheks> !wsl
[13:26] <oerheks> LambdaComplex, seek help in this channel, we don't know either
[13:26] <tomreyn> t0m80w: when you run this in a terminal, is anything blocked?  rfkill list
[13:26] <oerheks> sorry LambdaComplex
[13:37] <skinux> I cannot get Ubuntu to boot using latest kernel.
[13:37] <skinux> It goes to black screen and just hangs
[13:37] <skinux> If I use the previous, it works....appears to have at splash, but then loads desktop
[13:39] <rev__> blackflow: cuz i don't have a linux machine at hand.
[13:44] <blackflow> rev__: https://dpaste.de/B99C
[13:52] <rev__> blackflow: thanks man!
[13:55] <skinux> Can someone help me solve why Ubuntu 18.04 won't boot with latest kernel?
[13:55] <skinux> I seem to get BSOD just before splash
[13:56] <skinux> It started when I upgraded to 18.04 too soon. Then I did a fresh install, but my files were still there.
[13:59] <Southern_Gentlem> skinux, nvidia graphics?
[14:02] <Waylon> alienware laptop 18.04 it has dual gtx 780m video cards how might i see if its using both at the same time. They both are detected
[14:07] <dunpeal> Hi. I have a remote filesystem mounted via autofs. Seems like this mount has gone bad. How do I tell autofs to remount everything?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Waylon, the 2 gpus aren't meant to be used simultaneously, one is for low gpu loads, the other takes over above certain load limit
[14:08] <Fleetwood> BluesKaj: ok thanks i just wwondered about that
[14:09] <Waylon> BluesKaj: sorry wrong pc
[14:10] <pragmaticenigma> Waylon: From what I understand, when a laptop has two graphics chipsets, only one can be used at a time. You can see what the current active graphics chip is by using "sudo lshw -c video" command
[14:10] <skinux> I'm not sure what grapphics I have. I'm using HP 15 f387-wm
[14:10] <BluesKaj> !optimus
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Waylon,^
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> !info autofs
[14:12] <Waylon> pragmaticenigma: when i do that command both show up
[14:12] <pragmaticenigma> Waylon: is that a laptop or desktop
[14:13] <Waylon> pragmaticenigma: alienware laptop
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Waylon, yes the Optimus system is meant to shjow both since one is always at the ready to take over from the other
[14:13] <pragmaticenigma> Waylon: post the output to paste.ubuntu.com please
[14:14] <Waylon> BluesKaj: ok thanks the system works awesome, ni was just wondering about that
[14:16] <BluesKaj> Waylon, ok, it works well, then don't change anything
[14:16] <aldo_> hallo
[14:20] <JillnJackJack> dear fellow beleibers i had to format my root (or '/') partition. and i restored with my backup i made with rsync, i edited the grub.cfg and the etc/fstab, now bios throws an error and i couldnt care less tbh B-U-T i cant ssh into my machine and i get nothing shown in the mount folder
[14:20] <JillnJackJack> did i miss another config file to edit?
[14:21] <blackflow> insults!
[14:21] <ca_cabot> is it safe to automatically upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 LTS now, or do i need to wait until 18.04.1?
[14:23] <JillnJackJack> maybe i need to edit something in proc?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> !17.10
[14:23] <JillnJackJack> maybe edit rproc/fs?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> ca_cabot,^
[14:23] <qwebirc74025> I cannot seem to boot my hp from an external with ubuntu on, I select to boot it from the external drive but it still just boots windows
[14:24] <qwebirc74025> external harddrive*
[14:25] <BluesKaj> oops ca_cabot yes it 's safe , youpoint upgrade on 18.04 will be automastic if you update and upgrade everyday or on the 26th, i beleive
[14:25] <BluesKaj> 'scuse the typos
[14:26] <BluesKaj> bbl
[14:30] <ca_cabot> BluesKaj, thank you!
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> JillnJackJack: You may need to reinstall the openssh package. I have not seen someone use rsync to restore a backed up machine before, at least not the primary disk/partition.
[14:41] <Lope> transmission keeps crashing. Any ideas?
[14:41] <Lope> transmission-gt[27961]: segfault at 0 ip 000055edf05e4903 sp 00007f1de0891130 error 4 in transmission-gtk[55edf057a000+c4000]
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: How did you install Transmission, was it provided through the application manager in Ubuntu?
[14:43] <Lope> pragmaticenigma, it came with ubuntu 18.04 and gnome3. I've removed gnome3 and now running KDE
[14:43] <Lope> I see there's a QT version. I've just run it now.
[14:43] <Lope> Hopefully it doesn't crash.
[14:44] <Lope> transmission-qt[28727]: segfault at 0 ip 0000555c14712263 sp 00007f2f8fffe3b0 error 4 in transmission-qt[555c14619000+189000]
[14:44] <Lope> Also crashed
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: It's looking for a shared library for GTK, that most likely was removed when you removed Gnome.
[14:44] <PCatinean> Hello guys, can anyone please help me kill my nvidia card completely on my laptop running ubuntu 18.04?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Lope, try qbittorrent instead, very configurable
[14:44] <PCatinean> I tried blacklisting and editing grub entry, I'm not sure if it's disabled but does not seem so (laptop also getting hot)
[14:45] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: You can also try in the command line "sudo apt install --reinstall transmission"
[14:46] <Lope> okay well I just purged transmission*
[14:46] <Lope> will try install again
[14:47] <Lope> it just keeps crashing. Will try qbittorrent, thanks BluesKaj
[14:48] <PCatinean> Same problem as this guy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1054579/disable-dedicated-nvidia-graphic-card
[14:48] <Lope> PCatinean, when I first switched to linux the nvidia GPU was sucking 10~13W. But I installed bumblebee, which powers it off.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Lope,  bumblebee is meant for Optimus dual gpu systems
[14:51] <Lope> BluesKaj, yeah, he's got a laptop and wants to "kill" his nvidia GPU
[14:51] <Lope> Whatever kill means.
[14:51] <PCatinean> Lope, ubunt 18.04?
[14:51] <PCatinean> Lope, ubuntu 18.04?
[14:51] <PCatinean> *
[14:51] <Lope> PCatinean, I switched to ubuntu on around ubuntu 12. But I installed bumblebee on ubuntu 18. Worked alright for the test that I did, but I no longer need it and removed it.
[14:52] <PCatinean> So noveau drivers don't work, nvidia drivers don't and bumblebee will solve it?
[14:52] <PCatinean> Lope, you got 0% in powertop on nvidia?
[14:53] <Lope> PCatinean, well my power usage dropped by 10~13W as I said. for Nvidia GT540M
[14:54] <Lope> heat production and battery life became similar to what it was on windows.
[14:54] <PCatinean> interesting
[14:54] <Lope> I never said noveau drivers don't work.
[14:54] <Lope> They work fine.
[14:55] <Lope> Noveau drivers will stop the GPU wasting power also.
[14:55] <PCatinean> They don't disable the nvidia card, laptop gets hot, even in standby it's 100%
[14:55] <Lope> Depends how new your GPU is though. Noveau works for my GT540M
[14:55] <Lope> 100% what?
[14:55] <PCatinean> power usage
[14:56] <Lope> Basically all 3 have worked for my GT540M. Ubuntu 12 with bumblebee. Ubuntu 18 with just neuveau. Ubuntu 18 with Nvidia driver. Ubuntu with Nvidia and Bumblebee.
[14:56] <PCatinean> I just wish I could shut it down completely
[14:56] <brainwash> can't you do it via the BIOS?
[14:56] <Lope> What GPU?
[14:57] <Lope> BluesKaj, thanks, qbittorrent works.
[14:59] <sa___> Hi All, one my python test script is using "import pytest", when i ran that test I'm getting "ImportError: No module named pytest". I'm using an Ubuntu 14.04 pc, is pytest is part of deb package? Can someone point me how to install pytest module in ubuntu?
[14:59] <orangepi> as
[14:59] <orangepi> hello?
[14:59] <orangepi> mmm
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Lope, glad to hear that
[15:01] <brainwash> sa___: python-pytest or python3-pytest
[15:06] <fSharp> hello, can you perhaps point me to a page listing chroot procedure step by step? all links I found refer to particular devices or systems that I can't safely apply them to my system.
[15:06] <fSharp> or don't know if I can safely apply
[15:06] <ppf> fSharp: what do you want to do
[15:06] <fSharp> ppf, I want to log into my OS
[15:07] <PCatinean> brainwash, not sure how
[15:07] <eraserpencil_> Hi guys, with linux kernel 4.17 out, when will it trickle down to ubuntu?
[15:07] <PCatinean> Lope, dell xps 9560 with nvidia 1050 I think
[15:07] <ppf> fSharp: why can't you log in normally
[15:08] <fSharp> ppf, I can, but I don't want to chroot to the system that I am using
[15:08] <sa___> brainwash: tahnks
[15:08] <sweb> is Chrony more accure than ntp ?
[15:08] <Lope> PCatinean, what a waste, you've got a nvidia 1050 and just want to kill it?
[15:08] <Lope> nvidia 1050 is a beast.
[15:09] <sweb> did i must stop and disable systemd timesyncd  for using ntp or Chrony?
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> !details | fSharp
[15:09] <Lope> BTW have u guys tried red eclipse? Extremely impressive for a free game. And impressively it works perfectly between windows and linux
[15:10] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: Please try to stay on topic here. If you would like to chat about games and other topics, please visit the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[15:11] <fSharp> don't know what else to say. I'd like to access my system from a live cd via chroot
[15:11] <brainwash> sweb: probably
[15:11] <brainwash> sweb: using two solutions at the same time does not sound like something you want
[15:12] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: That is completely different from what you said earlier... You need to elaborate what exactly you are trying to do. It would appear the most of us are not understanding the purpose or reasons why you can't use your computer normally.
[15:12] <usuario10> face
[15:13] <usuario10> fcae
[15:13] <sweb> brainwash: chrony or ntp ?
[15:13] <brainwash> eraserpencil_: I'd think that ubuntu 18.10 and 18.04.2 will have version 4.17 or newer
[15:14] <brainwash> sweb: any
[15:14] <fSharp> I said I didn't want to use chroot on the target system itself.
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> sweb: Your question is more about personal preference than a support topic. Both applications can syncronize the system time. NTP is more widely supported, and documented. Chrony does the same exact thing, but offers support for additional time sources such as atomic clocks and GPS receivers
[15:14] <brainwash> sweb: or you want to know which one is better? no idea
[15:14] <JillnJackJack> after rsync restore of my ubuntu 18.04 server, i cannot ssh into it anymore even though the keys are still there...
[15:14] <JillnJackJack> where did i go wrong?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> fSharp, the question is why do you want to chroot into your system, what's the issue?
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> sweb: Unless you are going to use features other than the NTP protocol, I do not see a reason to use Chrony
[15:15] <lambdoid> I installed Ubuntu 18.04
[15:15] <lambdoid> yay
[15:15] <Guest19914> Hi. I have an issue with my dell XPS 15 (9570) and I would be very greatful if someone could point me in the right direction :) I have installed Ubuntu 18.04 but I still have problems with the computer not starting up after a suspend. What I have tried is changing acpi_osi to Windows 2017.2, but unfortunately its not working. Help is greatly appreciated
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> JillnJackJack: I already replied to your question, please go back and read. If that doesn't work for please let us know
[15:15] <JillnJackJack> lambdoid: good job
[15:16] <JillnJackJack> pragmaticenigma: ty
[15:16] <lambdoid> but Steam is having trouble downloading dota 2
[15:16] <lambdoid> I heard it's because steam makes to many dns lookups
[15:16] <lambdoid> and linux goes nust
[15:16] <lambdoid> nuts
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> lambdoid: Steam is not supported here, you need to contact Steam for support with games and their downloads
[15:16] <aidrocsid> I have some screen tearing when I watch videos on my Xubuntu install and it's worse in games.
[15:17] <fSharp> BluesKaj, just wondering how this is relevant to accessing the system. I just want to get to my system's root via chroot. I've done it a while ago, so I can't be sure of the order of all these commands with /mnt/, /mnt/proc etc.
[15:17] <JillnJackJack> pragmaticenigma: Why is rsync not used for primary in general?
[15:17] <fSharp> is it not one single row of commands?
[15:17] <avoider> Anyone have a idea why the trackpad is glitchy on the latest version of ubuntu?
[15:17] <brainwash> Guest19914: is "Windows 2017.2" a valid option?
[15:17] <Rumen> sudo grep -ri "off" /usr/lib/modules-load.d/   - Nothing!
[15:17] <aidrocsid> Wow it's busy in here today
[15:17] <avoider> seems bit slugish and delayed when using it.
[15:18] <JillnJackJack> pragmaticenigma: it worked, or at least openssh-server was not installed anymore...
[15:18] <Rumen> sudo grep -ri "off" /run/modules-load.d/ - No such file
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> JillnJackJack: Depending on system archetecture certain parts of the bootable drive need to have data blocks in specific areas. That information is not captured by rsync
[15:19] <avoider> like right now
[15:19] <avoider> my trackpad stopped resopnding
[15:19] <Guest19914> brainwash, yes it is
[15:19] <avoider> any ideas?
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: You need to describe in full detail what you are attempting to do. What you plan to accomplish. etc.. You're withholding information that would benefit us in trying to assist you
[15:19] <aidrocsid> Avoider, you've tested it in Windows?
[15:19] <avoider> yes
[15:20] <brainwash> aidrocsid: you probably should ask in #xubuntu and/or #xfce
[15:20] <avoider> it works fine in windows.
[15:20] <aidrocsid> I should see if I have the same problem on my ubuntu install
[15:20] <aidrocsid> brb
[15:20] <Guest19914> brainwash, its taken from : sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort
[15:20] <brainwash> Guest19914: ah I see
[15:21] <fSharp> ok, let me rephrase: can I i.e. use this method here to get to the root of the target system, while my goal is not to fix the problem that the page refers to; http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/ ?
[15:21] <brainwash> Guest19914: I found this from the dell support forums: "I have an XPS 15 9560, something that has worked for me is the kernel parameters acpi_osi=! with acpi_osi='Windows 2009' then make the brightness control acpi_backlight=vendor"
[15:21] <avoider> Its a Asus laptop
[15:21] <fSharp> can I use the same set and order of commands on this link?
[15:22] <Guest19914> brainwash, aha nice. THanks i will try that
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: that still doesn't explain what you want to do with chroot... If you are attempting to simply access data on the drive, there is no reason to chroot.
[15:22] <JillnJackJack> pragmaticenigma: can i fix all these issued by installing ubuntu anew on my root or / partition? and then just overwrite with rsync?
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> JillnJackJack: no
[15:22] <PCatinean> Lope, sorry it's 1050M on my laptop and it's of no use for me when I'm coding. Strange thing is doing powertop --autotune seems to turn it off
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> JillnJackJack: I would install fresh, install your applications, and then go through your backup and restore the desired configuration files and personal files manually
[15:23] <fSharp> pragmaticenigma, as I said, I want to get to the root of the target system.
[15:23] <fSharp> I know that for data access i dont need to get to the root
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: You don't need chroot to access the content of the drive
[15:23] <Forty-3> how do I restart networking on ubuntu server 18.04?
[15:23] <fSharp> it is not my goal to access the drive contents
[15:23] <Forty-3> e.g. equivalent to systemctl restart dhcpd on other distros
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: then what you are saying makes absolutely no sense.
[15:23] <Lope> PCatinean, nice, I didn't know about autotune.
[15:24] <fSharp> I want to be able to use my target system with root privileges, what is blurry about it?
[15:24] <avoider> Is this driver related or just Ubuntu is not supported with newer hardware?
[15:24] <Forty-3> there's a bunch of stuff online, but none of it seems to apply to 18.04
[15:24] <Lope> `cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb4 foo` is not giving me any output. The command does literally nothing. Nothing in syslog or dmesg either?
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: why you would want to do that??? Why can't you boot the machine and login?
[15:24] <Forty-3> or is desktop specific (e..g says to restart NetworkManager)
[15:24] <Lope> It returns 1
[15:25] <fSharp> pragmaticenigma, because I want to do it this way?
[15:25] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: chroot is a diagnostic and repair technique... it is not really intended for running a computer fulltime
[15:25] <fSharp> I will be more than thankful and satisfied if I know just whether the process in the link I pasted can be used to run chroot successfully
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: Back up your data and try
[15:26] <avoider> Looking for help with a trackpad issue.
[15:26] <avoider> Anyone to help?
[15:26] <fSharp> why don't you or anyone just tell me whether it is or not? it is a basic root access process that doesn't change from A to B, as far as I remember..but I am asking because I cant remember the details
[15:26] <fSharp> the command details
[15:27] <BluesKaj> !chroot
[15:27] <JillnJackJack> pragmaticenigma: if you forgive another question: what exactly are those blocks that have to be in a certin place? is this the masterbootrecord or the analogon with uefi or grub?
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: There isn't a clear answer, I'm not understanding the end goal of what you are doing. And therefore have no clear idea if what you are attempting to do will work
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> JillnJackJack: EFI requires a specific partition to be on the drive that the UEFI system is able to locate. Older machines, the MBR needed to be located within a specific range of the disk for BIOS to located. The newer machines and file systems, this limitation was less of an issue
[15:29] <fSharp> I just want to see in the live system's terminal this: "~$ #"  there is nothing further I want to know than how to do this. the rest I can manage myself.
[15:29] <Forty-3> fSharp: check out PS1
[15:30] <fSharp> what is that?
[15:30] <JillnJackJack> pragmaticenigma: so having a seperate boot partition on the servers hdd would work?
[15:30] <Forty-3> do man bash and grep for PROMPTING
[15:30] <avoider> no one here able to help with this issue?
[15:30] <JillnJackJack> given than one does not overwrite at least that part with rsync?
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> fSharp: at this point, you know more than myself, and potentially anyone else in this channel. The only thing left is to try it out. If you are that concerned about the target system... I wouldn't recommend trying anything without a databack up
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | avoider
[15:30] <fSharp> oh gosh
[15:31] <avoider> i tried searching that ubottu, that is all random non working soultions
[15:31] <avoider> that is why i came here
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> avoider: ubottu is a helper bot, it is not sentiant
[15:32] <avoider> oh
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> JillnJackJack: the /boot partition is just a container... MBRs are something different
[15:33] <aidrocsid> Okay, *now* I'm on Ubuntu and I have screen flickering on one of my monitors when I watch video. Latest LTS. 18.whatever
[15:34] <aidrocsid> Fresh install this week.
[15:35] <avoider> meh
[15:35] <avoider> thanks for support sucking so bad here.
[15:36]  * compdoc avoids avoider
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> that is uncalled for, those who offer help here are volunteers. it's a community support channel, not a Canonical support channel
[15:44] <aidrocsid> Any ideas for flickers?
[15:45] <Lope> I'm doing a "crazy" experiment, which is working. I've got VirtualBox who's virtual disk is an entire (raw) hard disk (not a file or a partition, a whole physical drive) and has windows booted off that drive's first partition in virtualbox. But on that hard disk, I've got an extra partition, formatted with luks. And I've got it mounted in linux on the host, and I'm reading/writing to it etc while the VM is running. In practise, it works.
[15:45] <Lope> Nothing is complaining or wanting exclusive access (or not getting the access it needs), and windows is not going to write to the luks partition on it's own. So should be fine?
[15:46] <aidrocsid> Lol why?
[15:46] <aidrocsid> Is it a security thing?
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: If there is any important data, I'd make sure you have it backed up... beyond that... I don't see any issues
[15:46] <Lope> aidrocsid, yeah, I don't know what kind of crap will run in the windows VM
[15:47] <aidrocsid> Niche situations are fun to figure out :D
[15:47] <Lope> pragmaticenigma, so it's not an anomaly, that it's working?
[15:48] <aidrocsid> Screen tearing is way worse on my smaller monitor than my larger one.
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: VirtualBox only cares about the volume you pointed it to for the VM (virtual disk or physical doesn't matter)... anything else on that disk, virtualbox is going to ignore unless it was told to use it.
[15:48] <iome> alvaro soler
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> !details | aidrocsid ... need configuration, graphic cards, monitor names, etc:
[15:49] <aidrocsid> Is there a command that will list that?
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: You don't know what's in your computer?
[15:49] <iome> alvaro soler
[15:50] <aidrocsid> I can't list my monitor specs off the top of my head, no.
[15:50] <Lope> pragmaticenigma, I've pointed to the entire disk for virtualbox.
[15:51] <aidrocsid> You know what, I'm just going to wait for Europeans to be awake lol.
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: that isn't possible
[15:52] <Lope> pragmaticenigma, it is
[15:52] <aidrocsid> Lol practicalenigma you don't seem to have much of substance or help to say.
[15:53] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: You have virtual box pointed to a partition such as /dev/sdg1 not /dev/sdg
[15:53] <Lope> pragmaticenigma, no
[15:53] <Lope> VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename /tmp/file-that-only-points-todisk.vmdk -rawdisk /dev/disk/by-id/blah
[15:53] <Lope> Virtualbox has an entire hard disk, not a partition.
[15:53] <Lope> the same hard disk boots inside a physical computer.
[15:53] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: Please review the community guidelines. If you don't have positive things to contribute, then please keep your thoughts to yourself.
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: THe disk/bi-id points to a partition, not a device
[15:54] <aidrocsid> I'd say the same to you. So far you've shamed me and told Lope that the thing he already did is impossible.
[15:54] <Lope> pragmaticenigma, no, it points to a whole disk.
[15:54] <Lope> You're totally wrong.
[15:54] <aidrocsid> In fact, where are the mods?
[15:54] <Lope> pragmaticenigma, I could have done it just by /dev/sdX but by-id is more robust.
[15:54] <Lope> by-id has disks and partitions.
[15:54] <Lope> I'm not an idiot.
[15:55] <Lope> You're making false assumptions.
[15:55] <Lope> yeah pragmaticenigma how many times do you want to insult my intelligence?
[15:56] <Lope> Google it if you don't believe me. You can attach an entire hard disk to virtualbox.
[15:56] <aidrocsid> Seriously, if you're literally only here to insult people you shouldn't clog the chat up.
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> Lope, aidrocsid ... You are out of line... there is no reason to belittle or berate someone.
[15:57] <aidrocsid> Dude it's all you've done.
[15:57] <Lope> Okay, thanks for the chat, I've gtg
[15:58] <Lope> No hard feelings pragmaticenigma, just google and you'll see.
[16:00] <pragmaticenigma> Lope: If you were to run the command "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" you would see that none of the links point to drives, they all point to a partition on the devices.
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: As for your situation... I'm not looking for a complete listing of the hardware in your system. I'm looking for how many graphics cards you have or if you using one card with multiple outputs for monitors. Simple things that you should know... once I have the basic information, I would be able to further direct you to help find the details needed to continue. There is no magical command I can offer until
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> I know some basic information about your machine.
[16:05] <Richard_Cavell> By the way, is there a machine which is like the most basic machine that will comfortably run Ubuntu in a VM on Windows 10?
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> Richard_Cavell: are you asking for configuration suggestions for the VM or curious if your computer can host ubuntu installed in virtual box?
[16:06] <Richard_Cavell> I need to buy a new machine and I want to run ubuntu in a VM
[16:08] <pragmaticenigma> Richard_Cavell: Recommendations from the Virtual Box developers: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/End-user_documentation
[16:08] <pragmaticenigma> Richard_Cavell: Any newer processor will be fine. Adequate memory is really important
[16:09] <Richard_Cavell> That page is not really helpful
[16:09] <oerheks> so if windows does not run properly, it is an ubuntu issue?
[16:09] <aidrocsid> Here, here are all the things about my computer https://pastebin.com/v3a6rqMA
[16:09] <aidrocsid> It has flickery monitors. Worse on the smaller one.
[16:11] <snapdata> I have a weird one, everyone. This is a technical curiosity, not something that seriously affects me, but I'm always happy to learn more about linux. Anyway, I'm on Ubuntu 18.04, and when I use the *restart* option, my wifi adapter fails to load (not sure if it's a kernel driver or what), every time. I can sit there and keep hitting 'restart' and never get the wifi driver up (the device doesnt even show
[16:11] <snapdata> up in ifconfig), *but* if I simply shut down and then start the machine, it works fine.
[16:11] <snapdata> This has been going on for months, and I've only just now realized that there might be a really interesting component to it
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: Have you installed the propriatary nvidia drivers?
[16:12] <snapdata> But, I'm not smart enough to debug it unfortunately.
[16:13] <luckwhoami> java help needed/
[16:13] <luckwhoami> ?
[16:14] <snapdata> luckwhoami: What? Go to #java
[16:14] <snapdata> luckwhoami: You're in #ubuntu. This is not a java channel.
[16:14] <luckwhoami> using ubuntu 16.04
[16:14] <pragmaticenigma> luckwhoami: If you writing java code, please visit #java... this is not a software development channel
[16:14] <aidrocsid> Just about to do that. Went looking at my drivers and noticed it's nouveau
[16:15] <oerheks> luckwhoami, install openjdk, and have fun?
[16:15] <oerheks> !java
[16:15] <luckwhoami> no java code.  application failed to run
[16:15] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: I would install those. if you're interested, there is a specific ppa that maintains the latest nvidia drivers with ubuntu tweaks applied for smoother operation.
[16:15] <snapdata> aidrocsid: the proprietary drivers are much nicer.
[16:15] <oerheks> oh, for applicationhelp, seek for #java channels
[16:16] <snapdata> pragmaticenigma: I need this
[16:17] <snapdata> pragmaticenigma: I didn't know that was a thing. I had to drop back to intel graphics because the proprietary drivers were screwed up for me
[16:17] <oerheks> snapdata, file a bugreport?
[16:17] <pragmaticenigma> snapdata: Do you have an Nvidia graphics card?
[16:17] <snapdata> pragmaticenigma: Yep, a GTX MX160. It's a laptop card
[16:18] <oerheks> 160 or 1060 ?
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> snapdata: dual graphics are harder to work with ... I found documentation on how to use the propretary drivers with dual graphics laptops
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> * I haven't found *
[16:19] <aidrocsid> Yep, pragmaticenigma, just added that repo and am installing the drivers. :D Thanks
[16:19] <oerheks> mx160 is not in the list http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/134859/en-us
[16:20] <snapdata> pragmaticenigma: I can switch back and forth between the two with no problems. It's just the nvidia drivers are *sloooow*, my desktop UI effects are faster on the intel, and the few games I play run more or less the same between the two, which shouldn't really be the case
[16:20] <oerheks> too new?
[16:20] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: once you have those installed, the control panel has the ability to adjust vsych ... which is what I believe might be causing your monitor flicker ... you might also want to check you video playback. If it is VLC, it also has some tweaks to help with video flicker. I have noticed that with the nvidia drivers, they go away once installed
[16:21] <snapdata> oerheks: er sorry, i typo'd super hard. gtx 1050
[16:21] <aidrocsid> Okay cool, I'll check that once it finishes and I boot back in.
[16:22] <pragmaticenigma> snapdata: The only instructions I have found work with the generic nouvau drivers unfortunately
[16:22] <snapdata> oerheks, pragmaticenigma: among other problems, like when using the nvidia card, the pc fails to resume and always needs a hard reset after lid close
[16:22] <snapdata> that being the said, I couldn't go back to windows, ever.
[16:22] <aidrocsid>     👍
[16:22] <aidrocsid> God it's weird that that works.
[16:23] <snapdata> pragmaticenigma: no worries, thank you for looking!
[16:23] <snapdata> pragmaticenigma: that was very kind of you.
[16:24] <oerheks> !cookie | pragmaticenigma
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> snapdata: The lid closing is an issue I've seen on many support forums. Part of it is a race condition between the kernel sending power state signals, I also think some of it is related to having an integrated GPU and discreet GPU running at the same time, which is a more recently supported feature.
[16:29] <snapdata> pragmaticenigma: ahhh okay, I gotcha. glad to know I'm not the only one!
[16:34] <aidrocsid> PragmaticEnigma, should the changes be applied to VLC once I have NVIDIA's drivers or is there something I needto set for that?
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: Is it still flickering with the nvidia drivers
[16:35] <aidrocsid> I don't think so but it does look a little funny
[16:36] <aidrocsid> My eyes are going wonky trying to look at image quality lol
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: what is a little funny? are you seeing blockyness?
[16:36] <Chon_Lee> I'm trying to run a brand new install on a newer dell laptop but Ubuntu is booting to 32bit instead of 64, is there an easy way to fix this?
[16:37] <pragmaticenigma> Chon_Lee: Where did you download Ubuntu and what was the name of the file you downloaded?
[16:37] <Chon_Lee> I downloaded ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso so I know it's not the image
[16:37] <Chon_Lee> Ubuntu.com
[16:37] <pragmaticenigma> Chon_Lee: How are you determining that you are running Ubuntu 32 bit?
[16:38] <Chon_Lee> let me back up... I'm assuming it's trying to boot 32bit because it's saying '32-bit relocation outside f kernel! --system halted'
[16:38] <aidrocsid> Hang on I want to try something that moves a lot to see if it's just my eyes
[16:38] <aidrocsid> Because it's subtle but I'm watching Community
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> Chon_Lee: You machine is running 64 bit, but 32 bit code can run on 64 bit machines. It's possible a driver or some other 32 bit software is trying to load on boot and causing a kernel fault. what was the last thing you did before seeing the error?
[16:39] <Chon_Lee> popped in the usb stick after imaging, and pressed f12 selected usb and blammo
[16:40] <mustmodify> is crontab ubuntu or linux?
[16:40] <mustmodify> I mean
[16:40] <mustmodify> bash or ubuntu?
[16:40] <CodeMouse92> mustmodify: It's Linux.
[16:40] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: You can try adjust the video settings in preferences. Right now it says Automatic... VDPAU is the setting for using the GPU for full decoding of the video
[16:40] <CodeMouse92> mustmodify: It's not even really related to 'bash' per se. It's its own program, to be more specific, but it appears on many distros.
[16:41] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: crontab is an application that manages scheduled system tasks
[16:41] <mustmodify> sure. Just wanted to know where I should ask.
[16:41] <pragmaticenigma> !info crontab | mustmodify
[16:41] <CodeMouse92> lol
[16:41] <pragmaticenigma> disregard ubottu mustmodify
[16:41] <mustmodify> I cloned a VM, then deleted a user from the clone. Then I found that the user's crontab list was still running. Why?
[16:41] <CodeMouse92> mustmodify: Well, afaik, you *can* ask here, as it's pretty standard within Ubuntu...
[16:42] <CodeMouse92> mustmodify: Did you delete the user's *files*?
[16:42] <CodeMouse92> Or just the entry for the user in the user list?
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: Yes, please ask your question, if we don't know the answer we can help direct you to a resource the can help
[16:42] <mustmodify> sudo userdel or something like that
[16:42] <mustmodify> deluser?
[16:42] <aidrocsid> Yeah I think my eyes are just weirding out on me. Thanks pragmaticenigma.
[16:43] <mustmodify> Never sure which order to use. I think they both do something.
[16:43] <CodeMouse92> mustmodify: AFAIK, that doesn't actually delete /home/user
[16:43] <CodeMouse92> Either that, or one of them doesn't ;)
[16:43] <mustmodify> ok, so deleting /home/user will do it?
[16:43] <CodeMouse92> Should?
[16:43] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: It also could be compression artifacts from the software that created the file. Depending on the settings used, sometimes sharpness is lost when they attempt to make the file as small as possible
[16:44] <CodeMouse92> mustmodify: In the future, use `deluser --remove-home` to delete the user AND their home folder
[16:44] <CodeMouse92> Er... `deluser --remove-home theusername`
[16:44] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: A specific user's cron tasks live in a file outside of the home directory
[16:45] <CodeMouse92> ....right, was just going to add that.
[16:45] <aidrocsid> Yeah, I tried a couple of things and I think it's just my eyes looking for lines after watching the tears for a while. It definitely isn't tearing, which was super noticable. I don't think it's compression artifacts either, I think I'm tired.
[16:45] <CodeMouse92> `/var/spool/cron/crontabs`, although it's not meant to be edited directly
[16:45] <mustmodify> Yeah, I figured they weren't in /home, but...
[16:45] <mustmodify> ok thanks.
[16:45] <compdoc> mustmodify, crontab is often custom modified. so it wont be undone when the user is deleted
[16:45] <aidrocsid> I do still want to see how it works with the SNES emulator that was having issues but I'm going to go install it on my xfce partition first. BBL
[16:46] <CodeMouse92> mustmodify: The best way to remove the crontab is 'crontab -r theuser'
[16:46] <CodeMouse92> As opposed to deleting the file manually
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: you can edit another's crontab file by using "sudo crontab -u USER -e" ... I haven't used the -r option before personally
[16:56] <mmarconm> which wifi card is best for compatibilty in linux Intel or Atheros ?
[16:58] <CodeMouse92> mmarconm: I've had much better luck with Intel. Every time.
[16:58] <CodeMouse92> Atheros is six-of-one-half-dozen-of-the-other, in terms of driver compat.
[16:58] <CodeMouse92> (Although Atheros is still a heckovalot better than Broadcomm in terms of compatibility, if that's the choice you're facing instead.)
[16:59] <mmarconm> CodeMouse92: yes, for me its dificult to find my socket NGFF m.2
[17:00] <mmarconm> CodeMouse92: Intel 9260 Ngw Ngff M.2  ???
[17:01] <CodeMouse92> ...the spec for that one apparently explicitly states support for Linux?
[17:01] <CodeMouse92> Hm
[17:02] <CodeMouse92> mmarconm: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html
[17:02] <mmarconm> CodeMouse92: yes, but i saw some bug in foruns about this cards
[17:02] <mmarconm> looks that is a new card for linux
[17:03] <CodeMouse92> Hm. Definitely outside of my bailiwick, then.
[17:03] <CodeMouse92> Usually when I'm repairing a machine, I don't mess w/ the firmware that much. If the card doesn't work w/ Linux, I swap it out.
[17:03] <CodeMouse92> They're cheap enough on eBay for me not to care.
[17:06] <mmarconm> Here in brazil they arent so cheap =(
[17:06] <mmarconm> bbl \o
[17:13] <pakcjo> Hello, is there a way to list the packages that are installed but not present in the configured repositories?
[17:14] <pakcjo> I just upgraded to 18.04 and I'm afraid I stil have some obsolete/3rd party packages
[17:14] <SilverSlimer> Alright, so I modified /etc/default/grub to make it support my laptop's resolution (1920x1080), made sure to add the payload keep line, updated initram-fs and grub itself and when I restart, the resolution is clearly the right one.
[17:14] <SilverSlimer> However, the splash screen itself doesn't show
[17:14] <SilverSlimer> what am i doing wrong
[17:14] <BluesKaj> udo update-grub
[17:14] <SilverSlimer> did that
[17:14] <BluesKaj> sudo
[17:15] <SilverSlimer> In other words, when I boot, the screen turns purple from the bottom up and then I get the cursor before being able to log on
[17:15] <SilverSlimer> the only thing I don,t see is the ubuntu logo and the progress graphic underneath
[17:16] <SilverSlimer> oh, but when i shut down, i see the logo
[17:17] <BluesKaj> oops ,I misread
[17:18] <SilverSlimer> I should mention that the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[17:19] <mesu-ra> GRU is russian intel
[17:20] <mesu-ra> don't use the russian technology
[17:21] <oerheks> mesu-ra, nice, but this channil is about ubuntu support
[17:21] <SilverSlimer> Speaking as a Pole whose country has been messed with by the Russians for centuries, I'll be the first to say that I don't fear Russians at all
[17:21] <mesu-ra> yea but it's about the bootloader
[17:22] <Southern_Gentlem> grub
[17:22] <SilverSlimer> the socialist scum in the US trying to start a war with them are the real enemy
[17:22] <oerheks> SilverSlimer, now stop, please
[17:22] <oerheks> !ot
[17:22] <SilverSlimer> noted, thanks
[17:23] <mesu-ra> OT8
[17:23] <mesu-ra> OT is scientology level
[17:26] <ville__> Linux Mint 19 rules!!!!!!
[17:27] <ville__> lol
[17:27] <ville__> lol
[17:27] <ville__> lol
[17:27] <oerheks> !mint | glad we don't have to support that
[17:29] <oerheks> for the volunteers: fix for boot issues, you have seen a lot of Q lately ..
[17:29] <oerheks> https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-fixes-boot-failures-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts-and-16-04-4-lts-update-now-522073.shtml
[17:30] <oerheks> 18.04 update to linux-image 4.15.0-29.31
[17:30] <mesu-ra> Q?
[17:34] <pragmaticenigma> SilverSlimer: As for the missing graphic on boot... I've tried to battle with that issue for a long time. I'm not sure if it is plymouth not finding or ability to scale the image to the resolution or some other configuration. You might have better luck at lowering the resolution with the same aspect ratio (like 1280x720)
[17:38] <asdf_> HELP! I have lost my old home directory. I was trying to shift my home directory to a new partition. After setting the changes in fstab, i forgot to delete the old home directory and rebooted. Now the space is still consumed in the partition and i can't find a way to delete it.
[17:38] <PigDude> hey, I'm on 18.04 and just fixed this machine, it was offline for over a month. was surprised to see no updates at all from Ubuntu sources when I ran an upgrade. is that right? here's my sources.list https://lpaste.net/4147462923461066752
[17:39] <nacc> PigDude: your sources.list is rather wrong
[17:39] <PigDude> and I'm fully aware that  could be one sed :)
[17:39] <nacc> PigDude: you don't have -updates or security enabled.
[17:39] <PigDude> ah ha
[17:39] <PigDude> thanks, I'm rusty! I'll add those
[17:39] <nacc> !components | PigDude
[17:39] <PigDude> nacc, thanks!
[17:39] <nacc> PigDude: yw
[17:40] <nacc> asdf_: so you just want to remove the old partition?
[17:41] <asdf_> yes
[17:41] <PigDude> nacc, I think these got disabled because I don't want update-manager auto updating (I do it myself) so I unchecked those boxes in the "Updates" tab
[17:41] <asdf_> no no. not the whole partition.
[17:42] <PigDude> nacc, I think I just confused the top checkboxes as being specific to this program
[17:42] <ioria> PigDude, i don't think is a good idea
[17:42] <nacc> PigDude: well, i mean 'updating' is not a concern generally -- did you mean installing the packages?
[17:42] <nacc> asdf_: ok, maybe restate your goal?
[17:42] <PigDude> yea, I have a script I run instead every time I start my machine etc
[17:42] <asdf_> that partition still has the os on it along with root partition and bin directory. i just want to recover the space that is consumed by the old home directory
[17:42] <PigDude> (it does an update + dist-upgrade + autormove)
[17:43] <nacc> PigDude: perahps just use unattended-upgrades rather than your own?
[17:43] <PigDude> I like to see what's changing and the GTK UI doesn't give as much info
[17:43] <nacc> asdf_: can you use a pastebin, and indicate what space is being used?
[17:43] <nacc> PigDude: ah i see
[17:43] <PigDude> anyway that was the soruce of my confusion (no pun intended), thanks again!
[17:43] <nacc> PigDude: if it's just files in a path, delete the files
[17:43] <ca_cabot> hey all, i'm on lubuntu 17.10, and trying to upgrade to 18.04 - sudo do-release-upgrade returns that no new release can be found?
[17:43] <PigDude> nacc, what do you mean by "files in a path"?
[17:44] <nacc> PigDude: err, sorry! that was for asdf_ !
[17:44] <asdf_> nacc: sure. give me a minute
[17:44] <nacc> asdf_: if it's just files in a path, just delete the files
[17:44] <PigDude> nacc, oh sorry! I'm being too chatty :)
[17:44] <nacc> PigDude: nope, totally my fault :)
[17:45] <PigDude> at the risk of doxxing/fingerprinting myself... BOOM! https://lpaste.net/8601906967956422656
[17:51] <asdf_> nacc:  https://pasteboard.co/HvOPYzo.png  and  https://pasteboard.co/HvOQ6VT.png        as you can see, the sizes don't add up. about 17gb is still consumed by the old home directory which is no more mounted
[17:55] <nacc> asdf_: i have no way of knowing what any of these disks are. Can you please use a pastebin and textually tell me which is which?
[17:56] <nacc> asdf_: in other words, i don't konw what the problem is from those two pictures.
[18:04] <fath0m> Hello. Can somebody help me... I can't get my disable while typing to work on xubuntu
[18:04] <fath0m> Worked with settings until my reboot
[18:04] <nacc> mesu-ra: please do not PM.
[18:06] <asdf_> nacc: here you go https://pastebin.com/XH3UNXMg
[18:08] <nacc> asdf_: did you have a distinct /home partition before?
[18:09] <nacc> asdf_: if not, you just need to reboot into recovery mode, make sure nothing is mounted on /home and do the above rm there, I think
[18:09] <asdf_> ugh, according to the new /etc/fstab configurations the new partition is mounted at /home.
[18:10] <asdf_> so would recovery still be able to help me?
[18:10] <electricmilk> What's the easiest way to install MYSQL on Ubuntu?  Tasksel?
[18:10] <mesu-ra> apt-get install mysql
[18:10] <electricmilk> Thank you
[18:10] <mesu-ra> np
[18:11] <tomreyn> E: Unable to locate package mysql
[18:12] <tomreyn> ->  sudo apt install mysql-server
[18:12] <tomreyn> tasksel may also work, not sure
[18:21] <asdf_> you there? nacc?
[18:23] <nacc> asdf_: sorry, am back now
[18:23] <nacc> asdf_: yes, we don't care about the new, as we're not going to touch it
[18:24] <nacc> asdf_: my point was, you need to be in an env where the new /home is not mounted. So that's what recovery helps you with
[18:25] <asdf_> okay. I will now boot into recovery mode and give it a try. will be back. Thanks
[18:27] <ppx___> how can i set a dsl connection in ubuntu 18.04?
[18:29] <oerheks> ppx___, pretty simple, https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/create-pppoe-connection-ubuntu-16-04
[18:29] <oerheks> same as for 18.04, afaik
[18:31] <ppx___> oerheks : network manager doesnt have dsl option nor pppoeconf worked for me
[18:33] <ppx___> oerheks : weak answer
[18:33] <Aleric> Is there a package to debug (into) libstdc++ itself? If so, what is the name?
[18:34] <oerheks> ppx___, oh is it removed? set it manually https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: can explain better what you are trying to do?
[18:35] <ppx___> oerheks : I tested this method recently and what it happens is that it self-deletes the newly created DSL connection...
[18:36] <xubuntu1804> How do I get ; https://github.com/cisco/openh264/releases ; Version 1.8.0 installed in firefox, current cisco-OpenH264 is version 1.7.1 ??
[18:37] <oerheks> "it self-deletes" .. any more issues you want to share?
[18:37] <ppx___> oerheks : even tried the nmtui program and when selecting activate dsl connection it says ppp service rejected or something like that
[18:42] <Aleric> pragmaticenigma: I want to use gdb to step into functions that are inside libstdc++.
[18:42] <Aleric> I just found and installed libstdc++6-5-dbg but that doesn't seem to help much before it still isn't showing the source code.. I now get stuff like:
[18:43] <Aleric> std::basic_ios<char, std::char_traits<char> >::widen (__c=10 '\n', this=<optimized out>) at /build/gcc-5-DA3Yrl/gcc-5-5.4.0/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/include/bits/basic_ios.h:450
[18:43] <Aleric> 450     /build/gcc-5-DA3Yrl/gcc-5-5.4.0/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/include/bits/basic_ios.h: No such file or directory.
[18:43] <ppx___> oerheks : is it possible that in the future the ubuntu community will fix it?
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: dbg packages install debugging symbols for log files. dev packages are often for software development. What I might suggest is asking your question in ##programming as there may be someone there that has tried to do the same thing.
[18:44] <Aleric> For stack traces you mean.
[18:44] <Aleric> I probably need to compile libstdc++ myself.
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> Aleric: That channel is better equipped and once they tell you the name of something, we can help you get it installed if you have difficulty
[18:45] <hggdh> Aleric: you need to install the symbols package(s) for the libraries you want to debug. The package names usually end in .dbg or .dbgsym, with the same initial name as the package for the library
[18:45] <mesu-ra> maybe you can link the source-code in the debugger
[18:45] <mesu-ra> even when the debug symbols are there, it's not automatically linked to the source code
[18:45] <hggdh> Aleric: you also need to allow the debug repository
[18:45] <Aleric> hggdh: That's what I just did thus.
[18:46] <hggdh> Aleric: but, as pragmaticenigma sated above, this is not the ideal channel for debugging programs
[18:46] <Aleric> Not sure how to do that mesu-ra, but that's what I was thinking too.. All I need is to strip off a part of that build-tree and tell gdb where to look for the rest.
[18:48] <hggdh> Aleric: finally, unless you are looking for a *libary* issue, it is usually better just to step over these calls
[18:48] <mesu-ra> https://alex.dzyoba.com/blog/gdb-source-path/
[18:48] <mesu-ra> check section "How to tell GDB where are the sources "
[18:48] <mesu-ra> i don't know exactly just found it on Google
[18:59] <core7> I just installed openssl using "sudo make install" - is there any way to revert back ?
[19:02] <asdf_> nacc: thank you very much. Recovery mode helped me to delete the old home directory. It turns out that folder is always there itself. While booting, the OS mounts the required filesystem over it depending on /etc/ftab configuration. Anyhow, tysm once again!😊
[19:03] <ioria> core7, makefile should have a 'uninstall' target
[19:07] <nacc> asdf_: yes, that is correct
[19:10] <aidrocsid> So I'm trying to install the proprietary nvidia drivers in my second copy of 18.04 and i'm getting a message asking me to insert the bionic beaver install cd in /cdrom/
[19:12] <ioria> aidrocsid, second copy ??? check sources.list at top
[19:12] <Bashing-om> aidrocsid: In the software sources GUI - uncheck the CD ROM check box ?
[19:13] <aidrocsid> thanks
[19:32] <aidrocsid> Can I change my home directory so that it's the same for two different Ubuntu installs on the same machine?
[19:33] <aidrocsid> Can I just sudo usermod -d a mounted directory?
[19:37] <ELFrederich> Hi, I have a file in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/keybase.list which contains this:  deb http://prerelease.keybase.io/deb stable main
[19:38] <ELFrederich> ... how can I get a list of releases from that?  It feels like I get multiple updates a week or even a day sometimes.  I just wanted to check
[19:40] <bildz> Im trying to setup OpenVPN on Ubuntu and completed everything.  I connect, but I am watching any attempts at accessing internet (tunnel through openvpn w/ ufw)   seeing blocked connections IN=tun0 OUT=eth0.  How do I enable these properly in ufw?
[19:52] <pragmaticenigma> aidrocsid: You can, as long as both installs are running the same applications and patches, you should not have any issues switching, but I wouldn't recommend simultanious. Are both installs on the same machine?
[19:53] <pragmaticenigma> bildz is OpenVPN setup with tunnel or tap mode?
[19:59] <lordcirth_work> Installing 16.04 Desktop on a PC with an RX480.  Trying to login just loops back to login screen - except Guest, which works perfectly.  Any ideas?
[20:00] <lordcirth_work> Xorg.0.log, syslog, and dmesg have nothing obviously related that I notice.
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> lordcirth_work: are there any driver specific logs in /var/logs?
[20:02] <pragmaticenigma> lordcirth_work: have you seen this? https://askubuntu.com/a/888123
[20:07] <lordcirth_work> RX580* apparently, and thanks, I'll look
[20:09] <core7> In my root shell I can change the password - the password says "updated successfull" - but then the password does not change - Any ideas what could be wrong?
[20:11] <core7> sorry - my ad
[20:11] <core7> my bad. Found the problem
[20:11] <padarc> what was it? just curious
[20:11] <Bashing-om> core7: Do Tell .
[20:25] <melkor> The installer is not so stable on my macbook pro. I tried using my existing lvm partitions and it failed on grub. Then just locked up. I tried letting it format the whole hard drive. ... The installer vanished.
[20:26] <melkor> Ill try rebooting. And try again. Maybe there is some alternative install medium?
[20:27] <Rumen> blackflow The other 2 has not appear at all.
[20:27] <Rumen> And Libre Office again freeze the compuater.
[20:29] <Rumen> Google Maps and LibreOffice freeze the computer. And that happens after I changed the graphic card and the driver. Very strange.
[20:30] <blackflow> Rumen: is there anything in logs at the time of freeze? some errors, kernel panic, anything?
[20:33] <Rumen> This is from the kernel.log from the last freeze before (I think) https://pastebin.com/gSWew68B
[20:36] <blackflow> Rumen: what about /var/log/syslog? journal should also be persistent now in Bionic, so you can look up last few minutes before the boot
[20:37] <PaulfraOSAA> Has there been any others who has problems with kwallet after updating lately?
[20:37] <blackflow> Rumen: because from what you're describing there's really just two possibilities. One, the driver really hates that GPU model,     or two the GPU is busted and has hardware issues.
[20:37] <barc0d4> hello is anybody there ?
[20:37] <blackflow> nope.
[20:38] <barc0d4> i have problem with TPM (7) error
[20:38] <Rumen> very possible one of the 2 reasons
[20:38] <barc0d4> i disabled TPM from bios but each time when i boot up system it's give me some error like "A TPM 7 Error"
[20:38] <Rumen> if I delete the system log and start the Libre office to freeze it - will we see where is the problem?
[20:40] <tomreyn> barc0d4: can you show the full line
[20:41] <PaulfraOSAA> It seems after my latest update of ubuntu, I can no longer access my old kdewallet (v4), The kdewallet updater doesn't accept the password, even though it is correct
[20:41] <blackflow> Rumen: you don't have to delete it. Mark the time and then use journalctl --since  and --until to filter that time frame only
[20:42] <Rumen> OK will try now
[20:42] <PaulfraOSAA> Sorry, wrong channel
[20:42] <barc0d4> Rumen: a tpm error (7) occurred attempting to read a pcr value
[20:44] <insidious> Anyone give me some help finding a solution to my trackpad issue.
[20:44] <insidious> It glitches out and seems laggish.
[20:44] <insidious> works fine on windows 10 and Arch
[20:45] <tomreyn> barc0d4: did you make tpm inactive in bios, or actually diable it entirely?
[20:47] <tomreyn> barc0d4: i.e. set it to either active or disabled, not inactive. https://i.stack.imgur.com/8zlZg.jpg
[20:49] <tomreyn> different bios, same (non) issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/851975/a-tpm-error-7-occurred-attempting-to-read-a-pcr-value
[20:49] <barc0d4> tomreyn: but in my laptop bios in secure tab there is no any actieve TPM
[20:50] <barc0d4> tomreyn: it's hp probook 640 g1
[20:50] <tomreyn> barc0d4: check the second link i posted, it shows another bios
[20:51] <tomreyn> barc0d4: there's also this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1765935
[20:51] <tomreyn> does it actually make the boot fail?
[20:51] <tomreyn> or does shutdown gte stuck?
[20:54] <insidious> Is it that no one knows how to fix this issue or???
[20:55] <blackflow> !patience | insidious
[20:55] <insidious> i been waiting for two days?
[20:55] <insidious> lold
[20:55] <blackflow> then I guess nobody knows.
[20:55] <insidious> Let's just blame systemd
[20:56] <insidious> lulz
[20:56] <insidious> I should of watched Linus video before i installed this crap.
[20:56] <insidious> ;x
[20:56] <oerheks> yeah, 2 days ago ?
[20:56] <insidious> i been going back n forth for two days.
[20:56] <insidious> as well in Debian.
[20:57] <Rumen> Here is the output https://pastebin.com/WZrtZeJG   Is that Xrender problem?
[20:57] <oerheks> insidious, and nobody asked you for more details?
[20:58] <insidious> Now that i can see.
[20:58] <insidious> not* sorry.
[20:58] <insidious> not trying to be a dick its just this is something that should not be happening in 2018.
[21:25] <skinux> I want to verify the validity of a AskUbuntu answer. I have followed advice from there and aother sites and messed up my system. https://askubuntu.com/questions/908800/what-does-this-synaptic-error-message-mean#908825
[21:26] <nivpgir> hi
[21:26] <nivpgir> how can I find out how the ubuntu boost package was compiled?
[21:27] <skinux> Nevermind. I looked up what badges mean and gold badge means very trustable.
[21:32] <nivpgir> basically I would like to see the script for the boost build, what flags were used to for the compile command and such
[21:33] <oerheks> you find it at the launchpad page, not sure what boost package you refer to .. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=boost
[21:34] <nacc> nivpgir: what oerheks said, start at the srcpkg page on luanchpad, look at the build logs
[21:36] <bildz> with OpenVPN on Ubuntu, I've edited the /etc/ufw/sysctl.conf to allow ip.fowarding, but I'm still getting denies going from tun0 network to eth1 internal network.
[21:39] <nivpgir> assuming I want boost 1.67 (not 100% sure that's  the version, but I can determine that later), where do I find the build logs?  I don't see a link  to them in the page you sent
[21:41] <nacc> nivpgir: what is the pacakge name and what version of ubuntu?
[21:41] <gigirock> nivpgir: but u want to compile or run ?
[21:42] <nivpgir> ok, sorry, I guess I should give more background
[21:43] <oerheks> at the end, https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/cosmic/boost1.67
[21:46] <gigirock> nivpgir: note that source are related to version u are on now
[21:49] <bildz> anyone seen this before?
[21:49] <nacc> bildz: editing the file wont' apply the changes immediately
[21:49] <nacc> bildz: did you reboot/restart ufw/ensure your sysctl is applied?
[21:49] <bildz> i restarted the ufw service
[21:49] <nacc> bildz: ok, and did you check if the sysctl is set?
[21:49] <bildz> nacc: I can get to the internet through the OpenVPN, I just cant hit internal clients on the network
[21:50] <oerheks> restarted networking too ?
[21:50] <bildz> so I know ip.forwarding is working
[21:50] <bildz> nacc: I "echo 1 > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[21:52] <PaulfraOSAA> nivpgir: take a look at conan (also #conan on freenode) Bincrafters just made boost available, you want a C++ package manager for your c++ libraries anyway.
[21:55] <nivpgir> ok so....
[21:55] <nivpgir> I'm trying to build clasp: https://github.com/clasp-developers/clasp, on arch linux. now  for some reason, I'm getting a link error on a symbol related  to boost, it links fine on ubuntu but on arch it doesn't I'm trying to find out whats different between the arch and ubuntu libs to fix the problem
[21:56] <nacc> nivpgir: the exact same version of boost? did you ask upstream, arch, etc.?
[21:57] <nivpgir> ver 1.67.0-5 on arch, I'm discussing it with clasp's creator on their channel, and also I have the pkgbuild script for the boost package on arch linux
[21:58] <nacc> nivpgir: so you tested this on 18.10?
[21:59] <nacc> nivpgir: that's the only placed boost1.67 is available on ubuntu, and the build log is here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/377503487/buildlog_ubuntu-cosmic-amd64.boost1.67_1.67.0-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[22:00] <nacc> nivpgir: i think that's probably the limit of the support you should expect to receive for a not-really-support-topic :)
[22:02] <nivpgir> nacc: well I'm not quite sure what's the ubuntu version of the clasp developer I'm talking to, I was hoping to get a lead on how to find the ubuntu package logs/script, so that when he'll tell me what version he has I could search it myself
[22:03] <nacc> nivpgir: i just pointed you to the only one ubuntu has
[22:03] <lungaro_> is there a way for pbuilder to preserve the build cache?
[22:03] <nacc> nivpgir: if they are using a ppa, then on your own
[22:03] <bildz> nacc: thoughts?
[22:04] <nivpgir> nacc: so thank you for all this, your help is much appreciatted
[22:04] <nacc> lungaro_: you mean /var/cache/pbuilder/result ?
[22:05] <nacc> bildz: i don't know, sorry
[22:05] <lungaro_> naac, I mean the build directory
[22:06] <nacc> lungaro_: i've never used pbuiilder, only sbuild --- --preserve-buildplace ?
[22:07] <lungaro_> oh interesting, maybe i should look into sbuild then
[22:07] <nacc> lungaro_: or --debug, i guess
[22:08] <bildz> nacc: [UFW BLOCK] IN=tun0 OUT= MAC= SRC=172.31.0.6 DST=10.250.1.52 [LAN IP]
[22:09] <lungaro_> nacc, where are the sbuild docs? any pointers?
[22:09] <nacc> lungaro_: sbuild requires some setup time but has a handy -pnever to 'never' purge the build, or -psuccessful to only purge it on successful builds
[22:09] <nacc> lungaro_: `man sbuild` and there are some wiki pages, iirc
[22:10] <lungaro_> got it
[22:10] <ironpillow> ppf: sorry about the late reply: library is libmbedcrypto0
[22:10] <nacc> bildz: sorry, why do you think this is related to the sysctl?
[22:11] <crankharder> thinking about setting up a call center's amount of ubuntu computers (cheap all in one Dell's), but not sure how to get ubuntu installed efficiently.  in a windows shop we used to use 'ghost' the machines, but that required a server that hosted the ISOs... is there a modern/better approach that can help?
[22:12] <bildz> nacc: I dont just giving background as to what i've performed.
[22:13] <nacc> bildz: ah ok; afaict, it's not. UFW is blocking the request; but I'm not an expert
[22:13] <nacc> bildz: check /etc/default/ufw's DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY ?
[22:14] <bildz> yeah I have that as ACCEPT, changed from DROP
[22:14] <boogle> crankharder, If they are all the same you could image the drives with the bare minimum although host names might be an issue.
[22:14] <bildz> nacc: i've rebooted as well
[22:14] <crankharder> boogle: i figure some post-image script would be in order regardless, so i could change hostnames
[22:16] <crankharder> my first thought was booting with a usb ubuntu installer.  then dd to transfer a post-install image from 2nd USB drive to hard disk.  though, honestly not sure if the partition table and grub would get set up correctly that way
[22:18] <boogle> I'm thinking set one up then use gnome disk utitlity to img it and restore to a second drive.
[22:22] <nacc> bildz: sorry, i really don't know, maybe change the ufw logging
[22:22] <nacc> bildz: check `ufw status` too see if a rule is possibly in place
[22:27] <bildz> nacc: i did its just the rules i originally specified
[22:27] <nacc> bildz: and do those rules allow for the forwarding you want?
[22:28] <bildz> one sec
[22:29] <bildz> nacc: forward rules arent showing up in the ufw status
[22:30] <bildz> nacc: https://pastebin.com/91zCj6yA
[22:31] <Success> how is hades canyon support
[22:31] <Success> also optane
[22:34] <panictest> leave
[22:34] <panictest> exit
[22:34] <panictest> quit
[22:34] <panictest> !q
[22:34] <Success> lol
[22:40] <nacc> bildz: if i read that correctly, you only allow outboudn conenctions on tun0
[22:40] <nacc> bildz: that's probably your issue
[22:46] <lungaro_> nacc, doesn't appear my version of sbuild has --preserve-buildplace =/
[22:54] <boogle> I'm back.
[22:55] <el-mossadi> Goooo GL!
[22:59] <hggdh> JOEL_: please stop
[22:59] <JOEL_> go back to IKEA
[23:00] <lubuntu> hello
[23:00] <bane5000> Anybody here savvy with Firejail? :0
[23:00] <boogle> hi
[23:00] <bane5000> ohi
[23:01] <bane5000> Basically firejail is blocking my k3b ;(
[23:02] <Guest83158> I am running lububtu on a macbook. I would like to map or bind the super key to launch a menu. I am not sure how to do this. It says to modify the xmodmap file but i don't have that file
[23:02] <bane5000> nvm i figured it out
[23:02] <Guest83158> how to assign keys other commands
[23:02] <bane5000> much love
[23:03] <Guest83158> I have an eject key in my macbook. Since I am running lubuntu on it it doesnt work. Does anyone know how to fix this problem
[23:04] <boogle> Does alt f1 open your menu?
[23:04] <Guest83158> boogle, no
[23:04] <boogle> do you have something labeled shortcut keys installed
[23:04] <Guest83158> I just want to be able to launch the menu by tapping the super/home button
[23:17] <ndujoe1> when I moved from another Linux distrbution to Ubuntu I discovered that I could not manage, edit file and programs from my previous data set.  How can I change the permissions of those files so that I can access them fully under Ubuntu 16.04 thanks.
[23:20] <boogle> right click, click properties, and click permissions I think.
[23:20] <blackflow> ndujoe1: can you pastebin an example from ls ?
[23:26] <trenten> i think i know the solution for corsair strafe not working
[23:26] <mrNtrdr> hi
[23:26] <trenten> there's thiis thing called BIOS mode and if you hold down the F1 key and the super key lock you can make it work in the installer
[23:39] <qwebirc75663> My computer updated from 16.04 to 17.10, once it boots and displays the login screen neither my keyboard or mouse will work
[23:41] <qwebirc75663> This happens with my Logitech wireless stuff,and wired usb
[23:58] <nacc> lungaro_: err, that's a pbuilder option