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xubuntu90wlooking for a way to quit getting silverlight update failure messages since i thought i deleted that program03:00
xubuntu1804Why if I open /usr/bin/catfish in a terminal, 'update search index' then search for * , do I get errors; Exception:  g-file-error-quark: Failed to open '/home/kunty/.cache/thumbnails/normal/883b692eb94227b31dd1a264782b9406.png' for writing: No such file or directory (4)06:32
pmjdebruijnstale index?06:32
* pmjdebruijn now doubts it even has an index?06:34
pmjdebruijnxubuntu1804: maybe that files was created and delete during your search?06:34
xubuntu1804Isn't the thumbnails directory; /home/kunty/.thumbnails/ ; ie. ~/.thumbnails/normal/06:34
pmjdebruijnthat may differ depending on the program you use?06:35
xubuntu1804I get hundreds of error lins06:35
xubuntu1804I get hundreds of error line06:35
pmjdebruijnno clue sorry, stick around, maybe someone else knows06:36
xubuntu1804Catfish 1.4.406:36
xubuntu1804slow down the search06:36
xubuntu1804Were  ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/ moved to ~/thumbnails/normal/  ??06:38
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> 'update search index' before search06:39
pmjdebruijn* pmjdebruijn now doubts it even has an index?06:41
* pmjdebruijn rarely if ever uses catfish06:41
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> IIRC, Catfish 'update search index' uses 'updatedb' - update a database for mlocate06:42
pmjdebruijnah06:47
pmjdebruijnxubuntu1804: then you might run updatedb?06:47
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> In Catfish 'update search index' uses 'updatedb' . also man -->  updatedb is usually run daily by cron(8) to update the default database.06:49
pmjdebruijnyes but that does explain the errors doesn't it06:56
pmjdebruijnxubuntu1804: presumably you could add PRUNEPATHS to /etc/updatedb.conf06:56
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> No, hence my question, why the errors ?? , Do you have  ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/ OR  ~/thumbnails/normal/  ??06:57
pmjdebruijnno clue you could have either06:58
xubuntu1804opps  ~/.thumbnails/normal/06:58
pmjdebruijnI have both too06:58
pmjdebruijnprobably application dependant06:58
xubuntu1804which directory has the mime type icons?06:59
pmjdebruijnxubuntu1804: you can just browse either?07:05
pmjdebruijnand look07:05
xubuntu1804I only have ~/.thumbnails/normal/ NO ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/ ; xubuntu-18.04 fully up-to-date : uname -r 4.15.0-29-generic07:08
xubuntu1804ran; sudo updatedb ,  no ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/ , created07:10
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> Can you tell which thumbnailer created : ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/  ??07:12
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> I should add, that in thunar I have pref's  'Show Thumbnails' set to 'Never'07:22
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> Have I lost u, as u wade-thru GBytes of thumbs ;)07:30
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> If I edit /etc/updatedb.conf ; and add to PRUNEPATHS ; is ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/ ; OK , OR /home/kunty/.cache/thumbnails/normal/07:37
xubuntu1804<xubuntu1804> Also updatedb does no create the errors, Catfish does07:40
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> 'sudo updatedb -v' ran with no errors07:41
xubuntu76iHi iam new user07:43
xubuntu76irecommend linux mint/xubuntu?07:44
pmjdebruijnxubuntu1804: of course updatedb runs without errors, the files are there when updatedb indexes them. the issue is, that they are no longer there when catfish runs hours later07:45
pmjdebruijnxubuntu76i: are you asking whether linux mint or xubuntu is better07:46
pmjdebruijnas the answer to that highly depends on the user :)07:46
pmjdebruijnxubuntu at least has the advantage being a part of the real ubuntu family07:46
pmjdebruijnlinux mint, while ubuntu based, isn't part of the family, so they may do things differently when they please07:48
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> Run 'sudo updatedb' ; OR open  /usr/bin/catfish in terminal ; 'Open Catfish --> options --> 'update search index' ; enter 'sudo password' (gui frontend to updatedb); then search *07:54
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> Where is ' ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/ ' deleted ??07:55
xubuntu05wYo guys, i need to create an if and else statement in order to do the xubuntu core installation. Does anyone know a stable location to check if xubuntu core 16.04 is installed or not?08:22
xubuntu05wim thinking about /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml08:22
xubuntu1804<xubuntu05w> I new but ; dpkg -l | grep linux-08:28
Spassxubuntu05w, what about "/usr/share/doc/xubuntu-core/"? only xubuntu-core package creates that folder08:36
xubuntu05wSpass, Thank you very much, gonna try that out !08:37
xubuntu05wso smart, of you spass. again thank you very much!08:38
xubuntu05wtop lad!08:38
xubuntu05w:D08:38
Spassno problem, you location seems legit too too check if xfce4 is present, but it's created by some other package08:38
Spass*your08:38
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> I have to go for now, thanks for your help, I'll check-in later.08:52
xubuntu1804<pmjdebruijn> you still there??11:58
xubuntu1804Ok, all a question about 'catfish' 'updatedb' 'mlocate.db' and 'tumbler' ; any takers ??12:03
diogenes_!ask12:04
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:04
xubuntu18041. Thunar 1.6.15 --> Pref's set 'Show Thumbnails' = 'Never'12:07
xubuntu18042. ~/.thumbnails/normal/ exists, ~/.cache/thumbnails/normal/ does NOT exist12:09
xubuntu18043. sudo rm -f /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db12:10
xubuntu18044. sudo updatedb12:10
xubuntu18045. In Term (ctrl-alt-T) /usr/bin/catfish12:14
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xubuntu18046. Select Pref's (gear-wheel) -- > 'update search index'12:17
xubuntu18047. Search *12:17
diogenes_xubuntu1804: can you explain in simple words what you trying to achieve? what is the expected relsult?12:18
xubuntu18048. 380 error lines Exception:  g-file-error-quark:  Failed to open '/home/host/.cache/thumbnails/normal/*.png' for writing: No such file or directory (4)12:18
xubuntu1804I expect catfish to not throw errors looking for non-existant *.png files12:20
xubuntu1804Sorry I'm so slow12:20
diogenes_xubuntu1804: try gnome-search-tool12:23
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> :~$ gnome-search-tool gnome-search-tool: command not found12:25
diogenes_xubuntu1804: first of all runŞ sudo apt install gnome-search-tool12:25
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> Isn't catfish the xubuntu search tool ??12:26
diogenes_xubuntu1804: xfce4 by definition doesn't have any search tool, all it uses is third party applications, so you can any of the search tools available.12:27
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> Ok, so I should uninstall catfish ??12:28
diogenes_xubuntu1804: is gnome-search-tool works with no errors then yes, if it still gives you errors then the issue is somewhere else12:29
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> Oh, Ok So use 'gnome-search-tool' to diagnose the problem ??12:31
diogenes_xubuntu1804: no :)))) gnome-search-tool is yet another search tool just like catfish, you just open it and search for the files and live a happy life :)12:32
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> So, it looks like the problem is up stream in Catfish. yes??12:33
diogenes_xubuntu1804: i'll confess you a huge secret, i don't use any gui based applications to look for files, all i use is terminal: find <=== command, much easier and productive :)12:35
xubuntu1804:~$ sudo apt install gnome-search-tool [sudo] password for hosty:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package gnome-search-tool12:35
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> Yes I know I'm slack, but I'm old and slow12:36
diogenes_xubuntu1804: right, they didn't even package it for ubuntu 18.04, very nice, i'd advice you then to install nautilus and use it whenever you need to search for files on your pc, nautilus has a built in search tool which is much faster than any of the search tools i've ever seen.12:38
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> nautilus, no thanks, I chose xubuntu, not ubuntu, I admit haven't used it since about 8.something12:42
diogenes_nautilus is not ubuntu application, it's gnome application that can be used anywhere.12:43
xubuntu1804Yes I know, but last time I looked at ubuntu with gnome DT, I didn't like it, true it was a long time ago, maybe time for another look12:45
xubuntu1804<diogenes_> Thanks for your help, I'll wait till 18.04.1 and look at both, thanks again12:47
diogenes_xubuntu1804: ok yw.12:48
Spassdiogenes_, small side-note - Catfish recently became an official Xfce project application - https://bluesabre.org/2018/07/15/catfish-1-4-6-released-now-an-xfce-project/13:03
diogenes_Spass: oh ok, i didn't know that, thanks.13:04
aldo_test14:16
fietit works!14:18
xubuntu70dOpening chromium from the xubuntu menu causes a "busy" cursor to appear when hovering over the title bar, but this never happens if launched from "Web Browser" or the terminal. Is there a reason why?14:22
xubuntu74whi am new to linux i am trying to install ralink wireless utility (RT2870) driver but am unable to ,please help me?14:30
aidrocsidGetting some screen tearing when I watch videos or play games.15:18
aidrocsidAny advice?15:18
xubuntu27wHello. After upgrading to Xubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver), my laptop will not longer boot up into the Gnome destop even though the text says that it started. Please advise on how to proceed.15:21
aidrocsidhttps://pastebin.com/v3a6rqMA   Got me some flickery monitors. Both ubuntu and xubuntu so I'd try a fix for either.16:10
aidrocsidI suppose that makes the first bits of that inaccurate.16:11
xubuntu55whi am new to linux i am trying to install ralink wireless utility (RT2870) driver but am unable to ,please help me?16:35
purplepodDo I still want to be using bumblebee or primus or something for my Optimus card?18:15
purplepodI haven't messed with this stuff in years18:15
oerheksprime it is, you find the settings in the nvidia tool18:16
purplepodDoesn't that require me to be in nvidia-gpu on all the time mode?18:17
purplepodI want the thing that lets my intel card run, but I can do specific programs with the nvidia18:17
xubuntu06wHelp: have an external monitor connected to my Dell laptop and want to close the lid and not suspend. How can I do this?20:35
diogenes_xubuntu06w: power manager and choose the option for lid close action20:36
xubuntu06wDoes not give an option of "nothing"20:36
diogenes_there is switch off20:36
xubuntu06wWhere?20:37
diogenes_it will switch off display20:37
diogenes_can you see: http://i.imgur.com/7wVI0Mc.png20:37
xubuntu06wCannot find it20:37
xubuntu06wIt says "switch off display" Will that turn off my external monitor as well?20:39
nomenonclick that and choose another option20:39
xubuntu06wThere is only "lock display" and "suspend"20:40
diogenes_xubuntu06w: what version on xubuntu you got?20:41
xubuntu06w18.0420:41
diogenes_well, click on battery icon and tick the presentation mode, it sould prevent the system from sleeping20:42
xubuntu06wThanks. I will try it.20:43
nomenonxubuntu06w, will you try something else first20:44
nomenonxubuntu06w, close the lid, wait for both screens to click off, and type on your keyboard/wiggle mouse20:45
nomenonthe monitor comes right back ya?20:45
xubuntu06wDid not work. Bummer20:46
nomenonok20:46
nomenonuse an editor /etc/UPower/UPower.conf20:46
nomenonfind20:46
nomenonignoreLid=  set to20:46
nomenonignoreLid=True20:46
xubuntu06wI did not try the type on the keys. Will try that.20:47
nomenonthen service upower restart20:47
nomenonoh thats ubuntu20:47
xubuntu06wwhich editor do you suggest20:49
nomenonnano   but i dont think that is going to work20:50
xubuntu06wOK20:51
nomenonnano works like a regular text editor  vim hurts my head20:51
xubuntu06wOK20:51
xubuntu06wHave decided I will not close the lid...21:01
xubuntu06wThanks for your help21:01
havenstanceokay I see most everyone involved in the laptop lid question has left the channel but for anyone else coming across this issue I have 16.04 LTS Xubuntu, not sure if this process is the same for 18.10 but on 16.04 the answer to this was issuing in the terminal sudo nano /etc/UPower/UPower.conf and find the line that says IgnoreLid=false, change false to true, and I rebooted as I didn't know which service was controlled by UPower.22:11
havenstanceconfirmed test with a spare monitor that when I close the lid the laptop screen turns off but external monitor stayed open to the desktop. if anyone knows which service UPower.conf controls in Xubuntu, I presume just restarting that service would fix it22:12
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