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blackflowoerheks: looks like that LibreOffice app was faek?   https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/unknown-dev-brings-libreoffice-to-windows-10-via-the-microsoft-store/00:37
oerheksmaybe not fake, it is a question is it legal?00:37
blackflowwell fake as in not from The Document Foundation00:39
sonicwindsaw that today... wild00:45
lotuspsychjegood morning to all01:50
Bashing-omMorn'n lotuspsychje :)01:51
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om can you warm yourself a bit?01:51
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Yeah - I can warm up .. just go push on the lawn mower :P01:52
sonicwindgood evening :-)01:53
lotuspsychjehey sonicwind01:54
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: belgium measured 44c on some places yesterday01:54
lotuspsychjewas freaky hot01:54
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Unreal how hot it has become in places .. It is actually killing people .01:55
lotuspsychjeyeah01:59
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lotuspsychjesilent coffee mmm02:43
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: As slow here - I wander off to other intelectual persuits . I return to check on the state of the afairs :)03:33
lotuspsychje:p03:34
Bashing-omThen, lotuspsychje , I mostly wander back off :(03:36
ducassegood morning06:26
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lotuspsychjegood noon to all09:45
BluesKajHey folks12:00
JimBuntuHiya BluesKaj12:05
BluesKaj'Morning JimBuntu, I was just informed of this, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/392/builds12:08
JimBuntuooooh. updates12:08
oerhekshi lovely people12:09
BluesKajlooks like LTS point release is available12:09
JimBuntuugh BluesKaj ... there is already a bug reported/triaged12:10
BluesKajheh, yeah, no doubt12:10
JimBuntuHappy 10th birthday USB 3.012:12
BluesKajhad some really loud t--storms here last night...had a hard time getting back to sleep at 4AM12:14
BluesKajhey oerheks ...don't think i qualify as "lovely" tho :-)12:15
BluesKajbbl, gonna check my Bionic point release upgrade12:17
JimBuntuHappy testing12:17
BluesKajyup, already got it..lsb_release -a gives 18.04.112:21
BluesKajthis pc is awfully fast, booting between OSs, thanks to my son's gift of the MSIZ370 motherboard and i5 cpu wih 16GB RAM12:23
BluesKajI prefer to dual boot vs VMs ...never had much luck with VMs, always something that didn't work , usually networking or media playback12:26
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj oerheks13:32
BluesKajhi lotuspsychje13:33
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: did you get .1 window already?13:33
BluesKajyes13:33
lotuspsychjecool 2 days earl13:33
BluesKajjust upgraded as usual13:34
lotuspsychjeneat13:34
BluesKajno fuss no muss13:34
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: so bionic kde right on your new machine?13:34
BluesKajyup13:34
lotuspsychjefeel free to share us desktop screenie :p13:34
lotuspsychjeor didnt it change much13:35
BluesKajno change at all13:35
lotuspsychjekk13:35
BluesKajI kept Bionic quite up to date every morning13:36
lotuspsychjei always liked msi BluesKaj13:36
BluesKajyeah, it's my first MSI ,and I like the legacy BIOS option on it since I don't need over 4 primary partitions or gpt table13:37
lotuspsychjeyeah13:39
lotuspsychjeDescription:Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS13:40
lotuspsychjethere, same story :p13:40
BluesKajright :-)13:40
BluesKajpainless13:40
lotuspsychjeim curious if xenial users are getting the window yet BluesKaj13:42
oerhekshi lotus13:43
lotuspsychjehey wb oerheks13:43
BluesKajxenial?13:43
lotuspsychjeyeah ltsupgrade13:43
BluesKajoh 16,0413:44
lotuspsychjethey said 26 of july13:44
BluesKajyes , I saw that, but I guess they're getting us early adopters to be the guinea pigs :-)13:45
lotuspsychjehehe13:46
BluesKajto detect the bugs early before official point release13:46
lotuspsychjenice move13:46
lotuspsychje!version13:48
ubot5To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »13:48
lotuspsychjehmm never saw this113:48
lotuspsychje!lxer 414:16
lotuspsychjethey looking for contributors too https://community.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-contributors-to-the-ubuntu-weekly-newsletter/153914:27
nicomachushow do I keep forgetting the LTS release date? I thought it was like the 20th or 21st15:26
blackflowif only there was a search engine where you could look it up.15:26
nicomachusIRC is my favorite search engine15:27
blackflownicomachus: you just have it set up the way you want, right?15:28
nicomachusblackflow: exactly15:30
nicomachusbut also the only dates I can find searching is the April release.15:30
blackflownicomachus: was in reference to this:  https://xkcd.com/1782/     :)15:30
nicomachusnvm I see it.15:31
nicomachusblackflow: and I know.15:31
nicomachusJuly 26th.15:31
blackflowtwo days. But, I'm already on it.15:32
nicomachuswell congrats.15:50
blackflownicomachus: I mean there was just an update for bionic, and voila! lsb_release says its 18.04.116:30
lotuspsychjeyep same here16:31
oerheksoh, me too16:32
oerhekssurprise16:32
nacc18.04.1 should be slightly ahead of 16.04.516:32
nacc(that's normal)16:32
nacci believe that specific change is from base-files16:33
lotuspsychjeyeah see that passby16:33
lotuspsychjenacc: xenial users will get upgrade window thursday?16:33
nacclotuspsychje: i believe so, yeah16:34
lotuspsychjeok lets bring on the storm :p16:35
nacci mean, 18.04.1 isn't really anything other than a point in time16:35
naccat which point they can pin the 16.04.5 kernel, etc. and spin those ISOs, I think16:35
lotuspsychjeyeah we received alot of updates the last weeks16:35
oerheksno torrent yet http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/16:35
lotuspsychjethursday it is :p16:44
lotuspsychje!info flatpak16:53
ubot5flatpak (source: flatpak): Application deployment framework for desktop apps. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.7-0ubuntu0.1 (bionic), package size 624 kB, installed size 3206 kB16:53
nacc!info flatpak xenial16:55
ubot5Package flatpak does not exist in xenial16:55
lotuspsychjenacc: lol hows that possible, their repos got lower version?16:55
nacclotuspsychje: are they on 18.04?16:56
lotuspsychjeah hes on xenial16:56
oerhekspici is so fast :-D18:40
lotuspsychje:p18:40
tomreyni wonder how they made it on googleusercontent.com, and on one which doesn't respond to http(s) requests18:44
oerheksspoofing?18:44
tomreynmaybe, or it's actually GCE and the name is just misleading me18:45
oerheksdownside of our low level entry, oh .. i forgot to continue to join the application for ops18:45
hggdhthere will be more18:45
hggdh(I mean trolls like this one)18:46
hggdhand, anyways, drone` now is on it18:57
oerheks:-)18:58
tomreynthere's https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19408818/what-are-the-ip-ranges-for-gce-zones in case it gets much worse18:58
oerheksoh man, teamviewer, we warn about this .. https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Announcements/Reassignment-of-unique-IDs/m-p/3906719:11
lotuspsychjeoerheks: vnc2 :p19:15
lotuspsychjehammered 24/719:15
lotuspsychjetomreyn: is your op request started mate?19:24
lotuspsychjeand you oerheks ?19:25
tomreynlotuspsychje: i didnt file one, too much paper work19:26
lotuspsychjeoh, didnt know it was complicated19:27
lotuspsychjeevening pragmaticenigma19:27
pragmaticenigmahowdy19:27
lotuspsychjepragmaticenigma: update to .1 yet?19:30
pragmaticenigmaI imagine it happened at some point... I just install updates when available19:35
lotuspsychjegood good :p19:36
pragmaticenigmawouldn't know what update would have been the "i'm going to .1"19:36
lotuspsychjepragmaticenigma: nacc told us base files or so19:36
naccafaik, yeah, it's an lsb file19:38
hggdhAFAICR, base-files19:42
hggdhor both?19:42
hggdhit is also on /etc/lsb-release19:43
nacchggdh: yeah, sorry, i meant that /etc/lsb-release is in base-fiules19:43
nacc*base-files19:43
hggdhk19:43
blackflowThe antivirus! The antivirus is vulnerable! The doctors are sick! Run!19:50
lotuspsychjelol19:50
blackflow(USN-3722-1)   :)19:50
* lotuspsychje quickly sudo apt purge clamav19:51
lotuspsychjeand all false positives :p19:52
tomreynit's hardly maintained upstream nowadays, just a by-product to get new paying customers.19:53
lotuspsychjehggdh: remember my bug you wished for me about kernel cleanup?19:53
hggdhyes?19:53
lotuspsychjethey removed it and fixxed, now unattended-upgrades got auto cleanup19:54
hggdhfinally :-)19:54
nicomachusjust got clamav updates...19:54
lotuspsychjelast 3 or so19:54
nicomachusall clamav packages. is that a fix or should I still purge?19:54
lotuspsychjenicomachus: no the purge was a joke sorry :p19:54
nicomachusoh.19:55
* nicomachus goes back to work.19:55
lotuspsychjetomreyn: the virus database was pretty up to date when i checked last time19:56
tomreynokay, they actually did new releases this year, so i take this back19:57
lotuspsychjei never actually found any virus ever with it :p19:58
tomreynthere's been a 1.5y release gap between 2016 and 201819:58
lotuspsychje!info clamav bionic19:58
ubot5clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.99.4+addedllvm-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 107 kB, installed size 796 kB19:58
daftykinsmaybe it's snake oil! :D19:58
lotuspsychje!info clamav cosmic19:59
ubot5clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.100.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 111 kB, installed size 629 kB19:59
lotuspsychjegood good19:59
tomreynhttps://clamav.org/19:59
tomreyni mean https://clamav.net/19:59
tomreyn"The certificate expired on October 23, 2013, 1:59:59 AM GMT+2. The current time is July 24, 2018, 9:59 PM."20:00
lotuspsychjeoO20:00
tomreynand while www.clamav.net is served via cloudflare, clamav.net is not. standard beginner mistake.20:00
lotuspsychjei found lynis pretty neat scanning20:01
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: are you sure both domains are under the ownership of the same individual/organization?20:01
tomreynpragmaticenigma: ignore .org, i meant .net, with and without www.20:01
pragmaticenigmaI get a redirect from clamav.net to www.clamav.net20:02
tomreynon http, yes, not so un https, unless your web browser doesn't validate SSL20:03
pragmaticenigmathe http is intermittent20:03
pragmaticenigmagot it work once... lots of timeouts20:03
pragmaticenigmaI agree that the primary domain should be secured ... but overall if this is a google chrome flagging "not secure" topic... I have my own thoughts about how silly and full of FUD it is20:04
tomreynan SSL certificate on a public website expired for 5 years is FUD?20:06
pragmaticenigmano20:06
pragmaticenigmaEveryone is losing their heads over Chrome now flagging sites as "Not Secure" when the site is served via HTTP instead of HTTPS20:06
tomreynokay, i understand how some consider it offensive that google (and i think mozilla, too) are pushing for requiring https.20:07
lotuspsychjehmm i have a flashback20:07
lotuspsychjedidnt we do this topic yet before?20:07
pragmaticenigmaand many time to come lotuspsychje20:08
tomreynnot with me, i think. must have been mr robot.20:08
lotuspsychjethink it started on ubuntu wikis http or https20:08
lotuspsychjelol tomreyn20:08
daftykinsi don't think there's any excuse not to be https now, any site i host for someone i make https capable20:08
daftykinsespecially if it takes a customer's data input on say, a contact form20:09
tomreynor... a shop (not looking at anyone here...)20:09
daftykins;D20:09
pragmaticenigmaI feel if there is an exchange of PID or PII.. yes... then https should be a requirement. but for purely informational or entertaining websites, I feel it's overkill20:09
lotuspsychjetomreyn: shop is secured from inside :p20:10
tomreyn:)20:10
lotuspsychjenot sure how my admin said it though..20:11
pragmaticenigmasounds like you might want to follow up to be sure20:13
lotuspsychjeyeah im on it pragmaticenigma20:14
daftykinsi for one hope that lotus' company does not deal in Pretty Ill-tempered Iguanas20:14
lotuspsychjelol20:15
lotuspsychjeok ttyl guys20:15
lotuspsychjehave a nice evening20:15
pragmaticenigmaor compete with Polaris Industries Inc20:15
ducassettyl lotuspsychje20:15
daftykins\o20:15
lotuspsychjelaterz ;)20:15
pragmaticenigmaim out too20:15
sonicwindgood afternoon, folkls20:58
sonicwindfolks20:58
sonicwindfolkls too20:58
oerhekshi sonic20:59
sonicwindhi oerheks21:00
nacci guess we have a very slow spam attack today :)22:28
oerheksyeah,he is runing from hotspot to hotspot22:30
hggdhprobably one one person doing it22:30
naccyep, that's my guess too :)22:30
hggdhso it is an eon-long DDoS22:30
nacclol22:30
naccthere are so many better things i could find to do with my time, including totally wasteful things like watching tv22:30
naccjust don't get it, myself :)22:30
oerhekslonely people ..22:31
hggdhneither do I. But human stupidity knowns no bounds22:31
oerheksterrible .. hi phunyguy22:31
nacchggdh: +122:31
nacclol22:40
naccthey really aren't trying very hard22:40
oerheksasking help with commercial games, ancient games..22:41
oerheksoh, that spammer22:41
naccoerheks: both :)22:41
oerheksflash is dead .. hurray22:42
Tegubetter archive flash art well22:51
oerhekstime for +r ?22:51
oerheksthat will force qwebirc dudes to register too :-D22:52
hggdhnot counting the idiot in Brazil that made a video where he says #freenode is the channel for the leet23:06
oerheksi am planning to make a video too :-D23:19
oerheksrebuilding my cargobike, that is23:19
hggdhand... while chatting on a massive change in ciphers at work, my colleague proposed a t-shirt saying (two lines):23:22
hggdhecho $DEITY23:22
hggdh** dangit **23:22
hggdhI am thinking seriously of getting a t-shirt like that23:23
hggdhI will probably get it done as23:23
hggdh$ echo $DEITY23:23
hggdh$23:23
hggdhdangit!23:23
oerhekswhat should that do ?23:24
hggdhnothing apart from making me happier :-)23:26
oerheks"enter any 11-digit prime number to kiss me"23:28
hggdhanother good one :-)23:30
oerheksmy chihuahua gets more attention than me... karma?23:30
naccdone for the night, have a good evening all!23:47
oerheksnn nacc23:47

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