[00:37] <blackflow> oerheks: looks like that LibreOffice app was faek?   https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/unknown-dev-brings-libreoffice-to-windows-10-via-the-microsoft-store/
[00:37] <oerheks> maybe not fake, it is a question is it legal?
[00:39] <blackflow> well fake as in not from The Document Foundation
[00:45] <sonicwind> saw that today... wild
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Morn'n lotuspsychje :)
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om can you warm yourself a bit?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yeah - I can warm up .. just go push on the lawn mower :P
[01:53] <sonicwind> good evening :-)
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> hey sonicwind
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: belgium measured 44c on some places yesterday
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> was freaky hot
[01:55] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Unreal how hot it has become in places .. It is actually killing people .
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> silent coffee mmm
[03:33] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: As slow here - I wander off to other intelectual persuits . I return to check on the state of the afairs :)
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> :p
[03:36] <Bashing-om> Then, lotuspsychje , I mostly wander back off :(
[06:26] <ducasse> good morning
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> good noon to all
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:05] <JimBuntu> Hiya BluesKaj
[12:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu, I was just informed of this, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/392/builds
[12:08] <JimBuntu> ooooh. updates
[12:09] <oerheks> hi lovely people
[12:09] <BluesKaj> looks like LTS point release is available
[12:10] <JimBuntu> ugh BluesKaj ... there is already a bug reported/triaged
[12:10] <BluesKaj> heh, yeah, no doubt
[12:12] <JimBuntu> Happy 10th birthday USB 3.0
[12:14] <BluesKaj> had some really loud t--storms here last night...had a hard time getting back to sleep at 4AM
[12:15] <BluesKaj> hey oerheks ...don't think i qualify as "lovely" tho :-)
[12:17] <BluesKaj> bbl, gonna check my Bionic point release upgrade
[12:17] <JimBuntu> Happy testing
[12:21] <BluesKaj> yup, already got it..lsb_release -a gives 18.04.1
[12:23] <BluesKaj> this pc is awfully fast, booting between OSs, thanks to my son's gift of the MSIZ370 motherboard and i5 cpu wih 16GB RAM
[12:26] <BluesKaj> I prefer to dual boot vs VMs ...never had much luck with VMs, always something that didn't work , usually networking or media playback
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj oerheks
[13:33] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you get .1 window already?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> cool 2 days earl
[13:34] <BluesKaj> just upgraded as usual
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> neat
[13:34] <BluesKaj> no fuss no muss
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: so bionic kde right on your new machine?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> feel free to share us desktop screenie :p
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> or didnt it change much
[13:35] <BluesKaj> no change at all
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> kk
[13:36] <BluesKaj> I kept Bionic quite up to date every morning
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> i always liked msi BluesKaj
[13:37] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's my first MSI ,and I like the legacy BIOS option on it since I don't need over 4 primary partitions or gpt table
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> Description:	Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> there, same story :p
[13:40] <BluesKaj> right :-)
[13:40] <BluesKaj> painless
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> im curious if xenial users are getting the window yet BluesKaj
[13:43] <oerheks> hi lotus
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> hey wb oerheks
[13:43] <BluesKaj> xenial?
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> yeah ltsupgrade
[13:44] <BluesKaj> oh 16,04
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> they said 26 of july
[13:45] <BluesKaj> yes , I saw that, but I guess they're getting us early adopters to be the guinea pigs :-)
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[13:46] <BluesKaj> to detect the bugs early before official point release
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> nice move
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> !version
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> hmm never saw this1
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> !lxer 4
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> they looking for contributors too https://community.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-contributors-to-the-ubuntu-weekly-newsletter/1539
[15:26] <nicomachus> how do I keep forgetting the LTS release date? I thought it was like the 20th or 21st
[15:26] <blackflow> if only there was a search engine where you could look it up.
[15:27] <nicomachus> IRC is my favorite search engine
[15:28] <blackflow> nicomachus: you just have it set up the way you want, right?
[15:30] <nicomachus> blackflow: exactly
[15:30] <nicomachus> but also the only dates I can find searching is the April release.
[15:30] <blackflow> nicomachus: was in reference to this:  https://xkcd.com/1782/     :)
[15:31] <nicomachus> nvm I see it.
[15:31] <nicomachus> blackflow: and I know.
[15:31] <nicomachus> July 26th.
[15:32] <blackflow> two days. But, I'm already on it.
[15:50] <nicomachus> well congrats.
[16:30] <blackflow> nicomachus: I mean there was just an update for bionic, and voila! lsb_release says its 18.04.1
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> yep same here
[16:32] <oerheks> oh, me too
[16:32] <oerheks> surprise
[16:32] <nacc> 18.04.1 should be slightly ahead of 16.04.5
[16:32] <nacc> (that's normal)
[16:33] <nacc> i believe that specific change is from base-files
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> yeah see that passby
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> nacc: xenial users will get upgrade window thursday?
[16:34] <nacc> lotuspsychje: i believe so, yeah
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> ok lets bring on the storm :p
[16:35] <nacc> i mean, 18.04.1 isn't really anything other than a point in time
[16:35] <nacc> at which point they can pin the 16.04.5 kernel, etc. and spin those ISOs, I think
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah we received alot of updates the last weeks
[16:35] <oerheks> no torrent yet http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> thursday it is :p
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> !info flatpak
[16:55] <nacc> !info flatpak xenial
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> nacc: lol hows that possible, their repos got lower version?
[16:56] <nacc> lotuspsychje: are they on 18.04?
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> ah hes on xenial
[18:40] <oerheks> pici is so fast :-D
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:44] <tomreyn> i wonder how they made it on googleusercontent.com, and on one which doesn't respond to http(s) requests
[18:44] <oerheks> spoofing?
[18:45] <tomreyn> maybe, or it's actually GCE and the name is just misleading me
[18:45] <oerheks> downside of our low level entry, oh .. i forgot to continue to join the application for ops
[18:45] <hggdh> there will be more
[18:46] <hggdh> (I mean trolls like this one)
[18:57] <hggdh> and, anyways, drone` now is on it
[18:58] <oerheks> :-)
[18:58] <tomreyn> there's https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19408818/what-are-the-ip-ranges-for-gce-zones in case it gets much worse
[19:11] <oerheks> oh man, teamviewer, we warn about this .. https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Announcements/Reassignment-of-unique-IDs/m-p/39067
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: vnc2 :p
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> hammered 24/7
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: is your op request started mate?
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> and you oerheks ?
[19:26] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: i didnt file one, too much paper work
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> oh, didnt know it was complicated
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> evening pragmaticenigma
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> howdy
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: update to .1 yet?
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> I imagine it happened at some point... I just install updates when available
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> good good :p
[19:36] <pragmaticenigma> wouldn't know what update would have been the "i'm going to .1"
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: nacc told us base files or so
[19:38] <nacc> afaik, yeah, it's an lsb file
[19:42] <hggdh> AFAICR, base-files
[19:42] <hggdh> or both?
[19:43] <hggdh> it is also on /etc/lsb-release
[19:43] <nacc> hggdh: yeah, sorry, i meant that /etc/lsb-release is in base-fiules
[19:43] <nacc> *base-files
[19:43] <hggdh> k
[19:50] <blackflow> The antivirus! The antivirus is vulnerable! The doctors are sick! Run!
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:50] <blackflow> (USN-3722-1)   :)
[19:51]  * lotuspsychje quickly sudo apt purge clamav
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> and all false positives :p
[19:53] <tomreyn> it's hardly maintained upstream nowadays, just a by-product to get new paying customers.
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: remember my bug you wished for me about kernel cleanup?
[19:53] <hggdh> yes?
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> they removed it and fixxed, now unattended-upgrades got auto cleanup
[19:54] <hggdh> finally :-)
[19:54] <nicomachus> just got clamav updates...
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> last 3 or so
[19:54] <nicomachus> all clamav packages. is that a fix or should I still purge?
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: no the purge was a joke sorry :p
[19:55] <nicomachus> oh.
[19:55]  * nicomachus goes back to work.
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: the virus database was pretty up to date when i checked last time
[19:57] <tomreyn> okay, they actually did new releases this year, so i take this back
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> i never actually found any virus ever with it :p
[19:58] <tomreyn> there's been a 1.5y release gap between 2016 and 2018
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav bionic
[19:58] <daftykins> maybe it's snake oil! :D
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav cosmic
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> good good
[19:59] <tomreyn> https://clamav.org/
[19:59] <tomreyn> i mean https://clamav.net/
[20:00] <tomreyn> "The certificate expired on October 23, 2013, 1:59:59 AM GMT+2. The current time is July 24, 2018, 9:59 PM."
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> oO
[20:00] <tomreyn> and while www.clamav.net is served via cloudflare, clamav.net is not. standard beginner mistake.
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> i found lynis pretty neat scanning
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: are you sure both domains are under the ownership of the same individual/organization?
[20:01] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: ignore .org, i meant .net, with and without www.
[20:02] <pragmaticenigma> I get a redirect from clamav.net to www.clamav.net
[20:03] <tomreyn> on http, yes, not so un https, unless your web browser doesn't validate SSL
[20:03] <pragmaticenigma> the http is intermittent
[20:03] <pragmaticenigma> got it work once... lots of timeouts
[20:04] <pragmaticenigma> I agree that the primary domain should be secured ... but overall if this is a google chrome flagging "not secure" topic... I have my own thoughts about how silly and full of FUD it is
[20:06] <tomreyn> an SSL certificate on a public website expired for 5 years is FUD?
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> no
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> Everyone is losing their heads over Chrome now flagging sites as "Not Secure" when the site is served via HTTP instead of HTTPS
[20:07] <tomreyn> okay, i understand how some consider it offensive that google (and i think mozilla, too) are pushing for requiring https.
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> hmm i have a flashback
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> didnt we do this topic yet before?
[20:08] <pragmaticenigma> and many time to come lotuspsychje
[20:08] <tomreyn> not with me, i think. must have been mr robot.
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> think it started on ubuntu wikis http or https
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> lol tomreyn
[20:08] <daftykins> i don't think there's any excuse not to be https now, any site i host for someone i make https capable
[20:09] <daftykins> especially if it takes a customer's data input on say, a contact form
[20:09] <tomreyn> or... a shop (not looking at anyone here...)
[20:09] <daftykins> ;D
[20:09] <pragmaticenigma> I feel if there is an exchange of PID or PII.. yes... then https should be a requirement. but for purely informational or entertaining websites, I feel it's overkill
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: shop is secured from inside :p
[20:10] <tomreyn> :)
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> not sure how my admin said it though..
[20:13] <pragmaticenigma> sounds like you might want to follow up to be sure
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> yeah im on it pragmaticenigma
[20:14] <daftykins> i for one hope that lotus' company does not deal in Pretty Ill-tempered Iguanas
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> ok ttyl guys
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> have a nice evening
[20:15] <pragmaticenigma> or compete with Polaris Industries Inc
[20:15] <ducasse> ttyl lotuspsychje
[20:15] <daftykins> \o
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> laterz ;)
[20:15] <pragmaticenigma> im out too
[20:58] <sonicwind> good afternoon, folkls
[20:58] <sonicwind> folks
[20:58] <sonicwind> folkls too
[20:59] <oerheks> hi sonic
[21:00] <sonicwind> hi oerheks
[22:28] <nacc> i guess we have a very slow spam attack today :)
[22:30] <oerheks> yeah,he is runing from hotspot to hotspot
[22:30] <hggdh> probably one one person doing it
[22:30] <nacc> yep, that's my guess too :)
[22:30] <hggdh> so it is an eon-long DDoS
[22:30] <nacc> lol
[22:30] <nacc> there are so many better things i could find to do with my time, including totally wasteful things like watching tv
[22:30] <nacc> just don't get it, myself :)
[22:31] <oerheks> lonely people ..
[22:31] <hggdh> neither do I. But human stupidity knowns no bounds
[22:31] <oerheks> terrible .. hi phunyguy
[22:31] <nacc> hggdh: +1
[22:40] <nacc> lol
[22:40] <nacc> they really aren't trying very hard
[22:41] <oerheks> asking help with commercial games, ancient games..
[22:41] <oerheks> oh, that spammer
[22:41] <nacc> oerheks: both :)
[22:42] <oerheks> flash is dead .. hurray
[22:51] <Tegu> better archive flash art well
[22:51] <oerheks> time for +r ?
[22:52] <oerheks> that will force qwebirc dudes to register too :-D
[23:06] <hggdh> not counting the idiot in Brazil that made a video where he says #freenode is the channel for the leet
[23:19] <oerheks> i am planning to make a video too :-D
[23:19] <oerheks> rebuilding my cargobike, that is
[23:22] <hggdh> and... while chatting on a massive change in ciphers at work, my colleague proposed a t-shirt saying (two lines):
[23:22] <hggdh> echo $DEITY
[23:22] <hggdh> ** dangit **
[23:23] <hggdh> I am thinking seriously of getting a t-shirt like that
[23:23] <hggdh> I will probably get it done as
[23:23] <hggdh> $ echo $DEITY
[23:23] <hggdh> $
[23:23] <hggdh> dangit!
[23:24] <oerheks> what should that do ?
[23:26] <hggdh> nothing apart from making me happier :-)
[23:28] <oerheks> "enter any 11-digit prime number to kiss me"
[23:30] <hggdh> another good one :-)
[23:30] <oerheks> my chihuahua gets more attention than me... karma?
[23:47] <nacc> done for the night, have a good evening all!
[23:47] <oerheks> nn nacc