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gamerchick02g'day cmaloney ! sorry i missed you; i was taking care of a couple things.00:09
gamerchick02i... have that. if you want me to search on the FCA site for internal postings and then rec one to you, send me a pm, cmaloney00:10
cmaloneyThank you.02:02
Scary_Guywhy not both?  "boss wants this on his desk by Friday, roll for init"07:55
cmaloneyHeh11:45
rick_h_morning11:50
cmaloneyHow's the day so far?11:54
rick_h_ugh, same as the last week I guess11:55
* rick_h_ grumbles in the corner11:55
cmaloneyWhat happened last week?11:56
* cmaloney is on a day-to-day basis. :)11:56
cmaloneyOr was it that the pupper got up way too early?11:56
rick_h_not this past weekend, but a week ago I guess I got some inner ear thing "vestibular neuritis" so I've not been able to drive or walk in a straight line since11:57
rick_h_woke up feeling good for about 10minutes before things kicked in and so now I'm cranky for the false hope11:58
cmaloneyOh shit.11:58
* cmaloney doesn't read the Twitter11:58
rick_h_meh, not missing much11:58
rick_h_I've not been able to read for a week really either11:58
rick_h_spent last week basically with an eyemask on listening to podcasts11:59
cmaloneyOh god, that's no fun11:59
rick_h_finally able to do limited 30min computer sessions this week11:59
cmaloneyDoes that mean this weekend's festivities are in limbo?11:59
rick_h_oh we had to cancel our 10day family UP trip again this year12:00
rick_h_last year due to ACL blowing and this year because I can't drive/do anything complicated12:00
rick_h_we were supposed to head out Wed12:00
cmaloneyOh no. That sucks. :(12:01
cmaloneybbiab.12:04
rick_h_yea, them's the breaks12:04
cmaloneyAnything I can do to help12:48
cmaloney?12:48
cmaloneyEven if it's just a sanity break12:48
rick_h_Naw, I need to get to PT tomorrow. I'm holding out some magic hope they can move things faster than this last week has been12:50
rick_h_sorry, guess this is whiny at this point12:50
rick_h_I was just dropping in to say hi as I've not been computing much lately12:50
rick_h_currently running all text at 180% so I can see it well enough it doesn't blur so feel like a grandma using a computer :P12:51
cmaloneyThat's quite OK12:51
cmaloneyYou're allowed to be winey. It's like a lot of the things you enjoy gut removed all of a sudden12:51
rick_h_I've got my buddy trying to make me feel better lol https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fo33NHcwL8c9NzgV812:52
rick_h_I've got to take a new pic with the shower wall and such installed but https://photos.app.goo.gl/xFUxqpJs121WVd6h7 is coming along nice12:53
rick_h_so there's little victories in there12:53
cmaloneyOMG, she's adorable12:53
rick_h_trouble maker :P https://photos.app.goo.gl/A8nM5sT5LggVgMhZA12:54
cmaloneyWell, of course she is12:55
cmaloneythat's just good thinking12:55
cmaloneygotta mask that scent somehow12:55
rick_h_she's a treat. Training class starts tomorrow12:55
rick_h_well, expect first day is just the owners12:56
rick_h_so next week I guess12:56
cmaloneyAh, OK12:56
rick_h_but she's pretty well trained at this point, just has a puppy brain12:56
cmaloneyNaturally12:56
cmaloneyShe's also got someone keeping her in line who has already been through this12:56
cmaloneyJordyn is so well trained12:57
cmaloneyshe only bolted that tone time toward the door when I was coming into it and knocked any future children I might have had well into the future.12:58
cmaloney:)12:58
rick_h_yea, she's been an amazing pup12:59
rick_h_though it was satifying to hear Erica go "you know, a rott probably would have made such a great first dog after all. So much more calm"12:59
cmaloneyheh12:59
cmaloneyWell, don't rotts have that trigger in them where if it snaps they have a hard time undoing it?13:00
cmaloneyor is that most dogs (save for poodles)13:00
brouschOH man, my friends' pomsky is kind of a nightmare13:06
brouschIt nips everyone when it wants to play, which is always, and is too quick to catch13:07
brouschIt had my son crying last weekend13:07
cmaloneyUgh13:07
brouschPees on the carpet all the time, even after just going out13:07
jrwreni never understand why folks keep dogs like that.13:09
brouschRumor is, it costed $300013:10
brouschIt's incredibly cute, but nippy and barky13:10
jrwrenwhat kind of dog is it?13:10
brouschpomsky: pomeranian + husky13:10
jrwrenoh god, one of those trendy mixes.13:11
brouschhttp://platpets.com/pomsky-dog-breed-temperament-training-diet/13:11
cmaloneySo basically a diminuitive husky with an attitude13:11
brouschYeah13:11
brouschAnd too quick to catch13:12
cmaloneyget a cat13:12
cmaloneyat least they piddle in a litterbox13:12
brouschThey have one. It is a reasonable creature13:12
cmaloneyheh13:12
brouschThey drove like 2 hours to get it, too13:13
brouschReading the temperament section on that page. It is accurate, and looks like a problem13:15
brouschThey don't have anyone disciplining her consistently, and the kids would rather computer than play with her13:16
cmaloneyah, that's no good13:24
greg-gdoes launchpad not let you upload ed25519 ssh keys? I got "invalid key" when trying.16:44
* greg-g is looking at his launchpad account due to updating his stack exchange login info from the launchpad openid to email/password (SE is deprecating openide)16:45
greg-g-e16:45
jrwrenyeah, I can't believe they are doing that. I thought they were a big openid success story. Shows what I know.16:49
jrwrenoh wait... they are keeping oauth providers? those ARE openid2.  sheesh, this is confusing16:50
jrwrenI see, they are removing generic openid. I guess that makes sense.16:50
greg-gI guess... :(16:52
greg-gthe open web is dieing16:52
greg-gdying, something16:53
greg-gI never get that right, or think I get it right16:53
jrwrennow I don't know what is right.16:53
greg-g:)16:53
jrwrendying - to dye, using dye?16:53
greg-gpresumably16:54
jrwrenoh... its dyeing if its with die. its dying if its die. wow, english irregular conjugation.16:57
jrwreni probably learned that in 4th grade and then forgot it all.16:57
_stink_what about the act of rolling a die?17:00
jrwrenyou just said, rolling17:00
jrwrenunless you are doing drugs. that is different rolling.17:00
jrwrenanyone else watching google cloud next?17:01
cmaloneyIsn't oauth / openID2 still the open web?17:06
cmaloneyor is that essentially "do nt apply unless Google, Facebook, or Twitter"17:07
greg-gcmaloney: that17:09
greg-git's like email: sure it's an open standard, but good luck getting on google etc's good side with your private server17:09
jrwrenbecause openid was, "insert your openid url here"17:09
jrwrenbut oauth2 is: we accept these and only these providers, and by these, we mean facebook.17:09
cmaloneygod, I'm having all sorts of fun trying to set up a new mail server and not have Google dump my mail into the shitter17:09
cmaloneySPF: That's nice, but we need DKIM17:10
cmaloneyDKIM: All of the fun of SSL, now in your DNS records17:11
greg-gexactly, which is why I skipped that and just use gandi's service17:11
greg-gI loved the fact that my grossmeier.net email was hosted on the same box my grossmeier.net apache was back in the day (a friend, Asheesh, managed the box, he's a DD, so I trusted him ;) ). But, those days are long gone for me.17:13
cmaloneyHmmm.17:17
cmaloneyHover has a $20 a year option.17:18
cmaloneyAll I really need is something to route a bit of mail around17:18
cmaloneyMight be worth it in the long run17:18
cmaloneywas setting this up as a separate machine so I wouldn't be so reluctant to upgrade machines and have my email go wonky17:18
cmaloneyunrelated: love when I mentioned that I was having fun setting up a mail server that someone recommended I use something like ansible17:19
jrwreni am currently doing 2 things for self hosted email.  1: coloc rpi for $7/mo.  2: aws instance receiving and routing to my home server to get around comcast port 25 incoming block17:19
jrwrenboth work well.17:19
cmaloneylike, my dude, I'm not even at the level where I have working config. Why the fuck would I put it in Ansible yet17:19
jrwreni have a dream of starting a business charging something cheap like $3/mo simply to route mail for self hosters to get email to their home-server through port blocks.17:20
cmaloneyHeh17:20
jrwrenits not a growth market :)17:20
jrwrenits a hobby business.17:20
cmaloneyNo, it's a support nightmare17:20
jrwrenmaybe.17:21
cmaloneybunch of whiney nerds wondering where their email is17:21
cmaloneyand can you make it so you route it to ...17:21
jrwrenright. that is why you have to build tools for them to view logs for only their email.17:21
cmaloneyand why is it so expensive ...17:21
jrwrenthey'd config the route destination themselves. little webui for config. not a big deal.17:21
cmaloneyWhenever I think of a service like that I suddenly get images of some of the folks that attend MUG and while I think they're wonderful people I wouldn't want to support their infrastructure.17:22
jrwrenwell, you wouldn't.17:22
greg-ghaha17:22
jrwrenyou send email to a host/ip-tcpport17:22
cmaloneyI reiterate... ;)17:23
jrwrenno biggie. some customers, you dont' want.17:23
jrwrenrefund their money, move on. its not a big deal.17:23
cmaloneyheh17:23
brouschColoc rpi?18:56
brouschThat's hilarious18:56
cmaloneyHey now19:13
cmaloneyyou could probably fill the crap out of a 1U unit with RPI19:13
cmaloneyhttp://www.bitscope.com/product/BB04/19:14
cmaloneyhttp://my.bitscope.com/store/?p=view&i=item+719:15
cmaloneyI think I just figured out one thing that I'm getting when I win the lottery19:16
brouschSeems less powerful than a $5/mo DO droplet19:21
greg-gbut more fun/esoteric ;)19:38
greg-gI was half watching a train hopping video while getting synced up with our recruiting people (via email) and man, that looks like such a stressful and fun time. I couldn't do it.22:08
brouschIs the rpi at Hipster Hosting?22:31
cmaloneyUgh. I don't think I could do train hopping at all22:59
daemoneyeSo, I will be doing a webcast in about a half hour on Gitolite if anyone is interested.  https://www.crowdcast.io/e/intro-to-gitolite23:21

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