[00:09] <gamerchick02> g'day cmaloney ! sorry i missed you; i was taking care of a couple things.
[00:10] <gamerchick02> i... have that. if you want me to search on the FCA site for internal postings and then rec one to you, send me a pm, cmaloney
[02:02] <cmaloney> Thank you.
[07:55] <Scary_Guy> why not both?  "boss wants this on his desk by Friday, roll for init"
[11:45] <cmaloney> Heh
[11:50] <rick_h_> morning
[11:54] <cmaloney> How's the day so far?
[11:55] <rick_h_> ugh, same as the last week I guess
[11:55]  * rick_h_ grumbles in the corner
[11:56] <cmaloney> What happened last week?
[11:56]  * cmaloney is on a day-to-day basis. :)
[11:56] <cmaloney> Or was it that the pupper got up way too early?
[11:57] <rick_h_> not this past weekend, but a week ago I guess I got some inner ear thing "vestibular neuritis" so I've not been able to drive or walk in a straight line since
[11:58] <rick_h_> woke up feeling good for about 10minutes before things kicked in and so now I'm cranky for the false hope
[11:58] <cmaloney> Oh shit.
[11:58]  * cmaloney doesn't read the Twitter
[11:58] <rick_h_> meh, not missing much
[11:58] <rick_h_> I've not been able to read for a week really either
[11:59] <rick_h_> spent last week basically with an eyemask on listening to podcasts
[11:59] <cmaloney> Oh god, that's no fun
[11:59] <rick_h_> finally able to do limited 30min computer sessions this week
[11:59] <cmaloney> Does that mean this weekend's festivities are in limbo?
[12:00] <rick_h_> oh we had to cancel our 10day family UP trip again this year
[12:00] <rick_h_> last year due to ACL blowing and this year because I can't drive/do anything complicated
[12:00] <rick_h_> we were supposed to head out Wed
[12:01] <cmaloney> Oh no. That sucks. :(
[12:04] <cmaloney> bbiab.
[12:04] <rick_h_> yea, them's the breaks
[12:48] <cmaloney> Anything I can do to help
[12:48] <cmaloney> ?
[12:48] <cmaloney> Even if it's just a sanity break
[12:50] <rick_h_> Naw, I need to get to PT tomorrow. I'm holding out some magic hope they can move things faster than this last week has been
[12:50] <rick_h_> sorry, guess this is whiny at this point
[12:50] <rick_h_> I was just dropping in to say hi as I've not been computing much lately
[12:51] <rick_h_> currently running all text at 180% so I can see it well enough it doesn't blur so feel like a grandma using a computer :P
[12:51] <cmaloney> That's quite OK
[12:51] <cmaloney> You're allowed to be winey. It's like a lot of the things you enjoy gut removed all of a sudden
[12:52] <rick_h_> I've got my buddy trying to make me feel better lol https://photos.app.goo.gl/Fo33NHcwL8c9NzgV8
[12:53] <rick_h_> I've got to take a new pic with the shower wall and such installed but https://photos.app.goo.gl/xFUxqpJs121WVd6h7 is coming along nice
[12:53] <rick_h_> so there's little victories in there
[12:53] <cmaloney> OMG, she's adorable
[12:54] <rick_h_> trouble maker :P https://photos.app.goo.gl/A8nM5sT5LggVgMhZA
[12:55] <cmaloney> Well, of course she is
[12:55] <cmaloney> that's just good thinking
[12:55] <cmaloney> gotta mask that scent somehow
[12:55] <rick_h_> she's a treat. Training class starts tomorrow
[12:56] <rick_h_> well, expect first day is just the owners
[12:56] <rick_h_> so next week I guess
[12:56] <cmaloney> Ah, OK
[12:56] <rick_h_> but she's pretty well trained at this point, just has a puppy brain
[12:56] <cmaloney> Naturally
[12:56] <cmaloney> She's also got someone keeping her in line who has already been through this
[12:57] <cmaloney> Jordyn is so well trained
[12:58] <cmaloney> she only bolted that tone time toward the door when I was coming into it and knocked any future children I might have had well into the future.
[12:58] <cmaloney> :)
[12:59] <rick_h_> yea, she's been an amazing pup
[12:59] <rick_h_> though it was satifying to hear Erica go "you know, a rott probably would have made such a great first dog after all. So much more calm"
[12:59] <cmaloney> heh
[13:00] <cmaloney> Well, don't rotts have that trigger in them where if it snaps they have a hard time undoing it?
[13:00] <cmaloney> or is that most dogs (save for poodles)
[13:06] <brousch> OH man, my friends' pomsky is kind of a nightmare
[13:07] <brousch> It nips everyone when it wants to play, which is always, and is too quick to catch
[13:07] <brousch> It had my son crying last weekend
[13:07] <cmaloney> Ugh
[13:07] <brousch> Pees on the carpet all the time, even after just going out
[13:09] <jrwren> i never understand why folks keep dogs like that.
[13:10] <brousch> Rumor is, it costed $3000
[13:10] <brousch> It's incredibly cute, but nippy and barky
[13:10] <jrwren> what kind of dog is it?
[13:10] <brousch> pomsky: pomeranian + husky
[13:11] <jrwren> oh god, one of those trendy mixes.
[13:11] <brousch> http://platpets.com/pomsky-dog-breed-temperament-training-diet/
[13:11] <cmaloney> So basically a diminuitive husky with an attitude
[13:11] <brousch> Yeah
[13:12] <brousch> And too quick to catch
[13:12] <cmaloney> get a cat
[13:12] <cmaloney> at least they piddle in a litterbox
[13:12] <brousch> They have one. It is a reasonable creature
[13:12] <cmaloney> heh
[13:13] <brousch> They drove like 2 hours to get it, too
[13:15] <brousch> Reading the temperament section on that page. It is accurate, and looks like a problem
[13:16] <brousch> They don't have anyone disciplining her consistently, and the kids would rather computer than play with her
[13:24] <cmaloney> ah, that's no good
[16:44] <greg-g> does launchpad not let you upload ed25519 ssh keys? I got "invalid key" when trying.
[16:45]  * greg-g is looking at his launchpad account due to updating his stack exchange login info from the launchpad openid to email/password (SE is deprecating openide)
[16:45] <greg-g> -e
[16:49] <jrwren> yeah, I can't believe they are doing that. I thought they were a big openid success story. Shows what I know.
[16:50] <jrwren> oh wait... they are keeping oauth providers? those ARE openid2.  sheesh, this is confusing
[16:50] <jrwren> I see, they are removing generic openid. I guess that makes sense.
[16:52] <greg-g> I guess... :(
[16:52] <greg-g> the open web is dieing
[16:53] <greg-g> dying, something
[16:53] <greg-g> I never get that right, or think I get it right
[16:53] <jrwren> now I don't know what is right.
[16:53] <greg-g> :)
[16:53] <jrwren> dying - to dye, using dye?
[16:54] <greg-g> presumably
[16:57] <jrwren> oh... its dyeing if its with die. its dying if its die. wow, english irregular conjugation.
[16:57] <jrwren> i probably learned that in 4th grade and then forgot it all.
[17:00] <_stink_> what about the act of rolling a die?
[17:00] <jrwren> you just said, rolling
[17:00] <jrwren> unless you are doing drugs. that is different rolling.
[17:01] <jrwren> anyone else watching google cloud next?
[17:06] <cmaloney> Isn't oauth / openID2 still the open web?
[17:07] <cmaloney> or is that essentially "do nt apply unless Google, Facebook, or Twitter"
[17:09] <greg-g> cmaloney: that
[17:09] <greg-g> it's like email: sure it's an open standard, but good luck getting on google etc's good side with your private server
[17:09] <jrwren> because openid was, "insert your openid url here"
[17:09] <jrwren> but oauth2 is: we accept these and only these providers, and by these, we mean facebook.
[17:09] <cmaloney> god, I'm having all sorts of fun trying to set up a new mail server and not have Google dump my mail into the shitter
[17:10] <cmaloney> SPF: That's nice, but we need DKIM
[17:11] <cmaloney> DKIM: All of the fun of SSL, now in your DNS records
[17:11] <greg-g> exactly, which is why I skipped that and just use gandi's service
[17:13] <greg-g> I loved the fact that my grossmeier.net email was hosted on the same box my grossmeier.net apache was back in the day (a friend, Asheesh, managed the box, he's a DD, so I trusted him ;) ). But, those days are long gone for me.
[17:17] <cmaloney> Hmmm.
[17:18] <cmaloney> Hover has a $20 a year option.
[17:18] <cmaloney> All I really need is something to route a bit of mail around
[17:18] <cmaloney> Might be worth it in the long run
[17:18] <cmaloney> was setting this up as a separate machine so I wouldn't be so reluctant to upgrade machines and have my email go wonky
[17:19] <cmaloney> unrelated: love when I mentioned that I was having fun setting up a mail server that someone recommended I use something like ansible
[17:19] <jrwren> i am currently doing 2 things for self hosted email.  1: coloc rpi for $7/mo.  2: aws instance receiving and routing to my home server to get around comcast port 25 incoming block
[17:19] <jrwren> both work well.
[17:19] <cmaloney> like, my dude, I'm not even at the level where I have working config. Why the fuck would I put it in Ansible yet
[17:20] <jrwren> i have a dream of starting a business charging something cheap like $3/mo simply to route mail for self hosters to get email to their home-server through port blocks.
[17:20] <cmaloney> Heh
[17:20] <jrwren> its not a growth market :)
[17:20] <jrwren> its a hobby business.
[17:20] <cmaloney> No, it's a support nightmare
[17:21] <jrwren> maybe.
[17:21] <cmaloney> bunch of whiney nerds wondering where their email is
[17:21] <cmaloney> and can you make it so you route it to ...
[17:21] <jrwren> right. that is why you have to build tools for them to view logs for only their email.
[17:21] <cmaloney> and why is it so expensive ...
[17:21] <jrwren> they'd config the route destination themselves. little webui for config. not a big deal.
[17:22] <cmaloney> Whenever I think of a service like that I suddenly get images of some of the folks that attend MUG and while I think they're wonderful people I wouldn't want to support their infrastructure.
[17:22] <jrwren> well, you wouldn't.
[17:22] <greg-g> haha
[17:22] <jrwren> you send email to a host/ip-tcpport
[17:23] <cmaloney> I reiterate... ;)
[17:23] <jrwren> no biggie. some customers, you dont' want.
[17:23] <jrwren> refund their money, move on. its not a big deal.
[17:23] <cmaloney> heh
[18:56] <brousch> Coloc rpi?
[18:56] <brousch> That's hilarious
[19:13] <cmaloney> Hey now
[19:13] <cmaloney> you could probably fill the crap out of a 1U unit with RPI
[19:14] <cmaloney> http://www.bitscope.com/product/BB04/
[19:15] <cmaloney> http://my.bitscope.com/store/?p=view&i=item+7
[19:16] <cmaloney> I think I just figured out one thing that I'm getting when I win the lottery
[19:21] <brousch> Seems less powerful than a $5/mo DO droplet
[19:38] <greg-g> but more fun/esoteric ;)
[22:08] <greg-g> I was half watching a train hopping video while getting synced up with our recruiting people (via email) and man, that looks like such a stressful and fun time. I couldn't do it.
[22:31] <brousch> Is the rpi at Hipster Hosting?
[22:59] <cmaloney> Ugh. I don't think I could do train hopping at all
[23:21] <daemoneye> So, I will be doing a webcast in about a half hour on Gitolite if anyone is interested.  https://www.crowdcast.io/e/intro-to-gitolite