=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:42] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gQYPDMbPDt/ [07:42] @SALPHA8506, ? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [07:53] @SALPHA8506, @SALPHA8506 please explain the issue before posting random output, in order to facilitate anybody who is willing to help you (what phone, what OS, when does the issue occur.....). Thanks [07:53] @SALPHA8506, That doesn't belong here at all [07:54] UT with halium-boot [07:54] Post to @ubports_porting [07:54] no ssh access [07:55] @SALPHA8506, after 3-4 min device reboot === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:25] Buijten was added by: Buijten [08:36] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5UuTu5Eq.webp [09:32] kCglbwBwISNk5 was added by: kCglbwBwISNk5 === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:03] https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-donates-more-devices-to-ubports-to-keep-ubuntu-touch-dream-alive-522091.shtml [10:04] [Edit] It's a great news https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-donates-more-devices-to-ubports-to-keep-ubuntu-touch-dream-alive-522091.shtml [10:10] @Yance, yeah https://t.me/ubports_news [10:10] Is that an old nexus 7? [10:10] With the round edges and the silver frame? [10:12] Ah "The year of the Nexus 7 tablets is yet to be confirmed by UBports, " [10:18] Nexus 7 has already xenial builds and just recently installed it on mine πŸ‘ [10:40] That's the 2013 model [10:40] (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/aqIQMhFZ.png [10:40] (this is the 2012 one) [10:43] Yeah, I've got the 2012 N7 at the bottom of a drawer. Even with Android it is unusable. :( [10:43] [Edit] (in picture: Nexus 7 2012) [10:46] @alan_griffiths, why? [10:49] It was bought as a dev target and then abandoned. After which Android got bigger and slower with each update. (As well as being nowhere near as cool as UT) [11:02] @alan_griffiths, Same. And can't sell it either, because nobody wants them [11:17] rubentura was added by: rubentura [11:17] Hello! Ubports doesn't seem to recognize my device, even though "adb devices" does recognize it... TT Any help? [11:24] LorenzoTecchio was added by: LorenzoTecchio [11:24] What device is it? [11:25] It is a mako/Nexus 4! Now I'm trying with my old laptop with Ubuntu, maybe πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” [11:26] Ubuntu dir Galaxy A3 2016 arived? [11:26] [Edit] Ubuntu for Galaxy A3 2016 arived? [11:31] no [11:31] and won't any time soon [11:37] @vanyasem, Because? I Reeves it us beacus no posible? [11:37] cocosushi was added by: cocosushi [11:37] Fwd from BrisPete: We'd love to support as many devices as possible. Unfortunately porting a new device takes a long time and there are only a few of us doing the work. More developers working on porting devices would mean more devices ported. This will particularly be true when the Halium Project is successful. [11:38] It is a smartphone foor god mo [11:38] [Edit] It is a smartphone foor god mod [11:39] [Edit] It is a smartphone foor good mod [11:46] Feel free to work on porting it yourself [11:54] @Javacookies, so is it supported right now or not? [12:02] it was definitely supported before and I was surprised there are now xenial builds so I guess it's back to being supported [12:05] @Javacookies, https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-donates-more-devices-to-ubports-to-keep-ubuntu-touch-dream-alive-522091.shtml [12:05] @rubentura, you might need to run with admin privs in windows [12:06] @dohbee, Tried it, but still didn't work. Tried to run on my old Ubuntu laptop, but it's so slow I can't even open a Google chrome page, lol. Trying from the windows OS, on the laptop still, which I used to mod N4 in, and if it doesn't work I'll try later on with something else :/ [12:07] @rubentura, ok, please join @WelcomePlus for more help with install issues. [12:07] @dohbee, Ok! Thanks! [12:13] I am noticing that the Nexus 5 camera in β€œselfie modeβ€œ it doesn't work all the time. Its very intermittent. Does anyone knows if this was already reported ? I am looking for the issue [12:13] (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/xz8rQVha.png [12:16] @rubentura, It is working, with the laptop windows 7! πŸ˜‚ [12:18] Might be a redundant question (i.e. someone's already asked it..), but: what is the smallest device UT is running on? Nexus 4? [12:24] @vanyasem, yeah it's amazing the news that comes in the News Channel if one subscribes, rolling on the floor laughing [12:24] @dohbee, same :( [12:25] i can take yours if you pay me $50 extra [12:25] shipping is on you also [12:25] @vanyasem, just put your dollars in the box of the tablet and ship it [12:26] oh wait [12:26] ha [12:26] @vanyasem, that's not how selling works, is it [12:32] What are you guys selling if I may ask? [12:41] @vanyasem, That's a nice logo [12:42] @vanyasem, I need an RSS version of this [12:45] @PhoenixLandPirate, that was 'michele' i believe... [12:45] There are telegram bots which can create an rss feed of a channel. (Like this one https://github.com/MasterGroosha/telegram-rss-generation) [12:46] [Edit] There are telegram bots which can create an rss feed of a channel. (Like this one https://github.com/MasterGroosha/telegram-rss-generation ) [12:46] @PhoenixLandPirate, This was the person: @mymike00 [12:46] new regex for new type of spammers [12:47] @JBBgameich, that.... is actually a pretty cool idea.. Maybe. Or... we could just use Telegram??? That's like Telegram to email feature or something. haha.. or maybe I don't understand [12:50] @JBBgameich, That's really cool! [12:52] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/jjnyJMZM.png It means that I can read the messages sent via news, next to my other Linux news. [12:53] @PhoenixLandPirate, do you have any GNU news in there as well? [12:53] or is it plain Linux news? [12:55] @vanyasem, Its mostly UbuntuBSD at the moment. [12:59] ok probably this is Off Topic... [12:59] 3 admins having an off-top conversation in a middle of the day. that's.. interesting :P yeah, let's continue in @ubports_ot [13:03] Hi guys [13:03] Is possible ubuntu touch x86 devices? [13:04] oh oh! on topic question! [13:05] @Eds_Mat, yeah, someone from @halium ported to an intel device [13:05] it was Ilya iirc [13:05] I think the question is more "do you have an ISO image for my laptop" [13:06] Which we do not yet. Simon's work to get Mir and Unity8 in Debian will help make that possible. [13:38] @PhoenixLandPirate, Thanks! [13:44] pirgon was added by: pirgon [15:05] Carlos was added by: Carlos [15:05] @UniversalSuperBox, No it us impossibile [15:05] @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] No it is impossibile [15:06] @LorenzoTecchio, It's possible, but not yet [15:10] Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu touch on my Nexus 5 and I can not. I did it with ubports but download and then it stays a long time in flash image and nothing happens and I do not know how to do it and what version works well in nexus 5 [15:24] @Carlos, Have patience. That step can take some time. [15:32] BTW this is not the best channel for help with install issues. Please join @WelcomePlus if you need more help. [15:38] yes this is not an install channel, please no install stuff here. [16:07] @wayneoutthere, I didn't realize ubports was run by Vogons [16:12] @dohbee, πŸ‘ [16:36] @dohbee, lol, I have one too [17:20] sangram_chavan was added by: sangram_chavan [17:21] Hi Supergroup, thanks so much for the latest update. πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘Every time my phone gets an update is like breathing fresh air. … It reminds me the project ia alive and that is improving bit by bit. … Like Canonical good old days. [17:22] @gab11010, what phone tho [17:36] @PhoenixLandPirate, seconded [17:43] btw just curious which canonical devices are on halium? [17:44] none of the supported devices are running on halium yet, afaik [17:44] or rather, the supported images aren't based on halium yet. i think there are halium builds for them, but there are some issues still which prevent UT running on top of halium [17:53] ah i see, i remember seeing a tweet about nexus 5 running on halium guess there's still a lot to do on that end [17:53] if understand it correctly tho if those issues are solved it should make keep them up to date easier? [17:55] not sure what you mean by that. but it should be much easier to add new devices once it's all working [17:55] i guess caf is still an issue though [17:59] @gab11010, That's what I feel when I looked at the website and the news [18:00] the famous caf eh? [18:39] Thanks for the encouragement. many are working very hard [18:50] Sultan Muhammad was added by: Sultan Muhammad [18:55] can I just share how much I love the new terminal? [18:55] (Photo, 1920x1200) https://irc.ubports.com/2euR8qtF.png [18:55] look at that beauty 😍 [18:55] I want it on all my computers tbh [18:56] yeah, I tried to use it as my main terminal before but it wasn't ready that time, maybe now? [18:57] @Javacookies you need to practice more your screenshot skills. Pressing up&down vol at the same time is tricky πŸ˜† [18:58] @UniversalSuperBox, i do once all the weird input issues with it get fixed [18:58] @Javacookies, But I cant find it in the supported devide list... [18:58] that was the fault of the busted volume keys on my Nexus 7 😝 [18:58] @mymike00, Flo is working, deb needs some time to decide [18:58] now back on my Nexus 5, it's hard to type on Nexus 7 LOL [18:59] was deb suppprted before? I thought it wasn't really even before [18:59] @dohniks is the only person I know of with a Deb and we're trying to do remote troubleshooting through an issue and it's just no fun [18:59] @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks, should I reporta bug for flo missing at devices.ubuntu-touch.io ? [18:59] @Javacookies, It's not super clear tbh [19:00] @mymike00, Probably [19:00] πŸ‘πŸ» [19:02] @UniversalSuperBox, do you know whether there is a deb in the canonical donation? [19:02] based on my experience though, Nexus 7 doesn't feel smooth on xenial like Nexus 5...well that could be just the weaker hardware and tablet more surface to render [19:03] @dohniks, there likely is not, as deb was never an officially supported model [19:04] @Javacookies, aren't they both 1920x1080 though? [19:04] "never"? but canonical published images for it ... [19:04] or is the 2013 nexus 7 still 720p? [19:05] @dohniks, There is not as far as I know [19:05] @dohniks, nope. only for flo. the old pre-ubports hoster of alternate images did have deb builds though [19:05] but, iirc, they might have just been copies of the flow images into the 'deb' directory [19:05] yeah you are right, but different scaling I guess...don't mind my out of this world assumption 😝 [19:05] It's not entirely clear whether they're 2012 or 2013 either [19:06] ohhh. it's from ... whatshisname the multirom guy! [19:06] @dohniks, yes [19:06] @UniversalSuperBox, if there's a bunch of Galaxy Nexus phones along with, probably mostly 2012s [19:08] ubports isn't *building* the flo kernel or are we? [19:08] we are [19:08] just reusing an old kernel binary ?! [19:08] ha. ok [19:08] we have to build the kernel, for the ubuntu specific patches [19:09] which is why devices that don't have kernel sources, can't have ports [19:09] hmmm [19:09] so I have multirom on my Nexus 5, that means I don't use custom UT kernel? [19:10] well, we *have* a deb kernel without *building* it today [19:10] someone did it in the past and the binary still exists and still works [19:10] well sure [19:10] so, are we *today* in a position to rebuild flo kernel? [19:10] you don't have to rebuild it daily with the rootfs. but if it's just using an old build, maybe it needs updated [19:11] We're reusing the Android build at least [19:11] I'm not sure about the kernel, but we're probably reusing it as well [19:12] when I last looked (long time ago, was hoping to reuse flo stuff to rebuild deb) I couldn't find it. [19:25] ..- -... .--. --- .-. - ... .-. --- -.-. -.- ... [19:25] Who knows morse code? [19:26] i know off topic [19:26] I need to learn it [19:26] Can you help me? [19:27] it is off topic. we have @ubports_ot for off topic discussions [19:30] Spleephy was added by: Spleephy [19:32] Hello everyone : ) I would know if Ubuntu Touch is availible on Polaroid Pro Series x64 ( https://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/tablettes-tactiles-ebooks/tablette-pro-series-10-1-polaroid-midw245p-133/f-10798-midw245p133.html) … Thank's : ) [19:32] It is not [19:32] Tho 😒 [19:33] Do you know anyone other win I can install ? ;'( [19:33] [Edit] Do you know anyone other than win I can install ? ;'( [19:35] Oh, Windows. You could try any Linux distribution for general hardware I think. [19:36] they will support touchscreen for a debian based for exemple ? : o [19:36] Maybe, [19:36] [Edit] Maybe? [19:37] I'll try x') [19:37] I'm no expert on that. You might want to try one of their support channels [19:37] ok, thanks : ) [19:38] No problem. Have fun! [19:38] πŸ™ [20:21] QuΓ© compraste? [20:24] @UniversalSuperBox, Not by Canonical. Nor was bacon. [20:32] @UniversalSuperBox, I use it on all my computers :D [20:33] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/PwvpAIMG.png [20:34] @mariogrip, what do you do when navigation key input borks? [20:35] @dohbee, huh? not have any problems with it tbh [20:35] If nothing else, `ctrl+D, ctrl+alt+T` [20:35] @mariogrip, it constantly ends up with arrow keys, home, end, etc… not working for me, in my VM [20:36] @dohbee, humm, i dunno, but it have just worked for me. [20:37] @dohbee, was that an u8 wm? [20:37] since mir is not the nicest to use in a wm [20:37] @mariogrip, yeah, i've not tried the app outside unity8 [20:38] well any wayland thingy does not really work in a wm [20:38] mir works pretty much fine there. just annoying that i can't change the resolution [20:38] Marius... Virtual starts with a W. :P [20:38] last time i tired it had some vierd mouse issues, but was the same issue with mutter so [20:38] @UniversalSuperBox, lol [20:38] @UniversalSuperBox, no [20:38] Wait... Now you got me doing it! [20:38] Aaaaah! [20:39] @UniversalSuperBox, where are your nuclear wessels [20:39] wm is much cooler then vm so :P [20:40] eh the mouse is a bit weird for some reason, but not sure if that's a bug in qemu or mir/unity8 with the cursor weirdness it has [20:41] but it doesn't do crazy software cursor stuff for keyboard. it should just be going through libinput to the app [20:41] anyway. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ [20:41] @dohbee, happens for me if i use any wayland/mir things tbh. x11 works perfectly [20:41] @mariogrip, (in a vm) [20:43] @mariogrip, windows has some similar oddities with cursor. i think there have been some fixes for it in libvirt or qemu, but not sure if in a newer version than is in 18.04 or not. but i think that's more specifically just due to the fact that they're doing more cursor handling directly [20:44] alas [20:44] right, x11 probobly has a driver just for vm's [20:46] I will leave the group for a few days, I will be back soonπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ [20:47] @mariogrip, well, x11 is also designed as a network transport, so probably some room in there for slowness, which doesn't exist in fully local compositing, too. but yeah, not sure what the exact deal is with the cursor [21:03] Hello [21:03] How can I install ubuntu touch in my tv box mx9? [21:04] Does anyone know? [21:04] you cannot [21:04] it is not a supported device [21:04] Bad [21:04] How sad [21:04] Thanks [21:05] android based devices require specific ports to be built [21:05] Ok [21:05] also, support for a TV interface was never really done, so it'd likely be quite odd to use on a tv device [21:06] Yes [21:07] it would be great if we could just build one image that worked on all android devices, but alas, that is impossible [21:07] Unfortunately [21:09] Whatsup also only works as a webapp [21:10] DoesnΒ΄t it? [21:11] Whatsapp and the great majoriry of the apps of Android [21:12] The most popular ones [21:12] whatsapp only works on android/ios. the web version only works while such a device is actively connected [21:13] well yes, many apps are only on android [21:13] but that has nothing to do with UT [21:13] if you want UT versions of those apps, feel free to ask the developers of those apps to provide UT versions [21:14] Ok [21:26] I could be interested in a nexus 7 if ut works well on it... [21:40] imparker was added by: imparker [21:40] Hello everyone! [21:41] what sms app is avaliable for ubports? [21:41] would signal work on it? [21:41] Yes, TextSecure / Signal is available in the OpenStore [21:41] For SMS, we have an app built in [21:42] https://open-store.io/app/textsecure.nanuc [21:47] wad rad was added by: wad rad [21:48] wonderful! [21:48] and is firefox on there too? [21:49] there's not a touch friendly version of firefox built for UT no [21:49] the traditional version is usable within libertine though as a legacy application [21:50] (which is only sensible to do if you connect to an external display) [21:58] Perople are so funny. To whomever it may concern, please read my answer about free speech and then understand that moderation is not censorship but our free expression of opinion: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1489/off-topic [22:00] I moderate a channel. Free speech is important but if you join the channel and start posting ads and porn 4 seconds after joining you're getting banned. [22:00] Do any of you have a link where I could get a meizu pro 5? [22:00] @Flohack, looks in moderation history [22:01] Oh, he posted a couple links without context which were deleted. I wonder if that's what he's on about? [22:02] hmm [22:02] maybe. Was it in OT? [22:02] On the forum [22:02] in the OT forum I mean [22:03] Yes, but our moderators are highly tuned to possible spam posts [22:03] The forum gets a surprising amount of spam [22:03] hmm clear [22:04] As I said, we are not obliged to publish everything what people want, even in OT. Every OT is in some forum a chit-chat place but you also dont spam your neighbour at the next table in a coffeeshop [22:05] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCQI0IT/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_13_w … Would this be compatable? [22:05] It is not [22:05] because note? [22:05] It's not the same device [22:05] It's not the same family of device, either [22:06] darn, alright [22:06] But in the Android world, every device is different. Even ones with identical specifications could have wildly different drivers and software required to make them work. [22:06] understood. I just wish I could find where to buy one [22:13] Would this be the right one? … https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_259930.html [22:13] sorry for spamming the channel [22:14] I want to say it looks right, but I don't know if 4G is right [22:14] You are looking for pro5 only? [22:14] @imparker, just make sure you dont by the chinise version, thats locked down alot [22:14] the global version works fine, that's what my pro5 is [22:15] @dohbee, Yeah. Based on the chart on your site it this seems like the highest end supported. [22:16] for speed it would go for oneplus one, it feels alot smoother and faster [22:16] pro5 has an amazing camera though [22:17] https://www.ebay.com/itm/Meizu-MX4-Pro-Gray-LTE-4G-Octa-Core-20-7MP-RAM-3GB-ROM-16GB-Mobile-Phone/323354629286?hash=item4b497014a6:g:0u0AAOSwkcFbEuKA [22:17] The MX4 Pro is not the same as the MX4 [22:17] oneplus one also has better ram speed, even though it has a lower cpu clock it feels faster [22:18] darnet I'm not having a good time here. [22:19] Okay. I emailed Meizu and I'll see what they have to say. Thakn you @mariogrip, I'll keep that in mind in case meizu doesn't pull through [22:19] I'm still gunning for the pro 5 because USB C [22:20] also the simplest to get is probobly nexus 5, they are eveywhere on ebay [22:20] @imparker, right, but keep in mind it's still usb 2 so its pretty much the same exept the port itself [22:23] Boom_boom_boom_boom_boom was added by: Boom_boom_boom_boom_boom [22:41] @mariogrip, Its possible, but really hard, I have the Chinese one