 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gQYPDMbPDt/
 @SALPHA8506, ?
 @SALPHA8506, @SALPHA8506 please explain the issue before posting random output, in order to facilitate anybody who is willing to help you (what phone, what OS, when does the issue occur.....). Thanks
 @SALPHA8506, That doesn't belong here at all
 UT with halium-boot
 Post to @ubports_porting
 no ssh access
 @SALPHA8506, after 3-4 min device reboot
[08:25] <ubptgbot> Buijten was added by: Buijten
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5UuTu5Eq.webp
[09:32] <ubptgbot> kCglbwBwISNk5 was added by: kCglbwBwISNk5
 https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-donates-more-devices-to-ubports-to-keep-ubuntu-touch-dream-alive-522091.shtml
 [Edit] It's a great news https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-donates-more-devices-to-ubports-to-keep-ubuntu-touch-dream-alive-522091.shtml
 @Yance, yeah https://t.me/ubports_news
 Is that an old nexus 7?
 With the round edges and the silver frame?
 Ah "The year of the Nexus 7 tablets is yet to be confirmed by UBports, "
 Nexus 7 has already xenial builds and just recently installed it on mine 👍
 That's the 2013 model
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/aqIQMhFZ.png
 (this is the 2012 one)
 Yeah, I've got the 2012 N7 at the bottom of a drawer. Even with Android it is unusable. :(
 [Edit] (in picture: Nexus 7 2012)
 @alan_griffiths, why?
 It was bought as a dev target and then abandoned. After which Android got bigger and slower with each update. (As well as being nowhere near as cool as UT)
 @alan_griffiths, Same. And can't sell it either, because nobody wants them
[11:17] <ubptgbot> rubentura was added by: rubentura
 Hello! Ubports doesn't seem to recognize my device, even though "adb devices" does recognize it... TT Any help?
[11:24] <ubptgbot> LorenzoTecchio was added by: LorenzoTecchio
 What device is it?
 It is a mako/Nexus 4! Now I'm trying with my old laptop with Ubuntu, maybe 🤔🤔🤔🤔
 Ubuntu dir Galaxy A3 2016 arived?
 [Edit] Ubuntu for Galaxy A3 2016 arived?
 no
 and won't any time soon
 @vanyasem, Because? I Reeves it us beacus no posible?
[11:37] <ubptgbot> cocosushi was added by: cocosushi
 Fwd from BrisPete: We'd love to support as many devices as possible. Unfortunately porting a new device takes a long time and there are only a few of us doing the work. More developers working on porting devices would mean more devices ported. This will particularly be true when the Halium Project is successful.
 It is a smartphone foor god mo
 [Edit] It is a smartphone foor god mod
 [Edit] It is a smartphone foor good mod
 Feel free to work on porting it yourself
 @Javacookies, so is it supported right now or not?
 it was definitely supported before and I was surprised there are now xenial builds so I guess it's back to being supported
 @Javacookies, https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-donates-more-devices-to-ubports-to-keep-ubuntu-touch-dream-alive-522091.shtml
 @rubentura, you might need to run with admin privs in windows
 @dohbee, Tried it, but still didn't work. Tried to run on my old Ubuntu laptop, but it's so slow I can't even open a Google chrome page, lol. Trying from the windows OS, on the laptop still, which I used to mod N4 in, and if it doesn't work I'll try later on with something else :/
 @rubentura, ok, please join @WelcomePlus for more help with install issues.
 @dohbee, Ok! Thanks!
 I am noticing that the Nexus 5 camera in “selfie mode“ it doesn't work all the time. Its very intermittent. Does anyone knows if this was already reported ? I am looking for the issue
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/xz8rQVha.png
 @rubentura, It is working, with the laptop windows 7! 😂
[12:18] <ubptgbot> <Yann Roth> Might be a redundant question (i.e. someone's already asked it..), but: what is the smallest device UT is running on? Nexus 4?
 @vanyasem, yeah it's amazing the news that comes in the News Channel if one subscribes, rolling on the floor laughing
 @dohbee, same :(
 i can take yours if you pay me $50 extra
 shipping is on you also
 @vanyasem, just put your dollars in the box of the tablet and ship it
 oh wait
 ha
 @vanyasem, that's not how selling works, is it
 What are you guys selling if I may ask?
 @vanyasem, That's a nice logo
 @vanyasem, I need an RSS version of this
 @PhoenixLandPirate, that was 'michele' i believe...
 There are telegram bots which can create an rss feed of a channel. (Like this one https://github.com/MasterGroosha/telegram-rss-generation)
 [Edit] There are telegram bots which can create an rss feed of a channel. (Like this one https://github.com/MasterGroosha/telegram-rss-generation )
 @PhoenixLandPirate, This was the person: @mymike00
 new regex for new type of spammers
 @JBBgameich, that.... is actually a pretty cool idea.. Maybe.  Or... we could just use Telegram???  That's like Telegram to email feature or something.  haha.. or maybe I don't understand
 @JBBgameich, That's really cool!
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/jjnyJMZM.png It means that I can read the messages sent via news, next to my other Linux news.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, do you have any GNU news in there as well?
 or is it plain Linux news?
 @vanyasem, Its mostly UbuntuBSD at the moment.
 ok probably this is Off Topic...
 3 admins having an off-top conversation in a middle of the day. that's.. interesting :P yeah, let's continue in @ubports_ot
 Hi guys
 Is possible ubuntu touch x86 devices?
 oh oh! on topic question!
 @Eds_Mat, yeah, someone from @halium ported to an intel device
 it was Ilya iirc
 I think the question is more "do you have an ISO image for my laptop"
 Which we do not yet. Simon's work to get Mir and Unity8 in Debian will help make that possible.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Thanks!
[13:44] <ubptgbot> pirgon was added by: pirgon
[15:05] <ubptgbot> Carlos was added by: Carlos
 @UniversalSuperBox, No it us impossibile
 @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] No it is impossibile
 @LorenzoTecchio, It's possible, but not yet
 Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu touch on my Nexus 5 and I can not. I did it with ubports but download and then it stays a long time in flash image and nothing happens and I do not know how to do it and what version works well in nexus 5
 @Carlos, Have patience. That step can take some time.
 BTW this is not the best channel for help with install issues. Please join @WelcomePlus if you need more help.
 yes this is not an install channel, please no install stuff here.
 @wayneoutthere, I didn't realize ubports was run by Vogons
 @dohbee, 👍
 @dohbee, lol, I have one too
[17:20] <ubptgbot> sangram_chavan was added by: sangram_chavan
 Hi Supergroup, thanks so much for the latest update. 👏👏👏Every time my phone gets an update is like breathing fresh air. … It reminds me the project ia alive and that is improving bit by bit.  … Like Canonical good old days.
 @gab11010, what phone tho
 @PhoenixLandPirate, seconded
 btw just curious which canonical devices are on halium?
 none of the supported devices are running on halium yet, afaik
 or rather, the supported images aren't based on halium yet. i think there are halium builds for them, but there are some issues still which prevent UT running on top of halium
 ah i see, i remember seeing a tweet about nexus 5 running on halium guess there's still a lot to do on that end
 if understand it correctly tho if those issues are solved it should make keep them up to date easier?
 not sure what you mean by that. but it should be much easier to add new devices once it's all working
 i guess caf is still an issue though
 @gab11010, That's what I feel when I looked at the website and the news
 the famous caf eh?
 Thanks for the encouragement.  many are working very hard
[18:50] <ubptgbot> Sultan Muhammad was added by: Sultan Muhammad
 can I just share how much I love the new terminal?
 (Photo, 1920x1200) https://irc.ubports.com/2euR8qtF.png
 look at that beauty 😍
 I want it on all my computers tbh
 yeah, I tried to use it as my main terminal before but it wasn't ready that time, maybe now?
 @Javacookies you need to practice more your screenshot skills. Pressing up&down vol at the same time is tricky 😆
 @UniversalSuperBox, i do once all the weird input issues with it get fixed
 @Javacookies, But I cant find it in the supported devide list...
 that was the fault of the busted volume keys on my Nexus 7 😝
 @mymike00, Flo is working, deb needs some time to decide
 now back on my Nexus 5, it's hard to type on Nexus 7 LOL
 was deb suppprted before? I thought it wasn't really even before
 @dohniks is the only person I know of with a Deb and we're trying to do remote troubleshooting through an issue and it's just no fun
 @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks, should I reporta bug for flo missing at devices.ubuntu-touch.io ?
 @Javacookies, It's not super clear tbh
 @mymike00, Probably
 👍🏻
 @UniversalSuperBox, do you know whether there is a deb in the canonical donation?
 based on my experience though, Nexus 7 doesn't feel smooth on xenial like Nexus 5...well that could be just the weaker hardware and tablet more surface to render
 @dohniks, there likely is not, as deb was never an officially supported model
 @Javacookies, aren't they both 1920x1080 though?
 "never"? but canonical published images for it ...
 or is the 2013 nexus 7 still 720p?
 @dohniks, There is not as far as I know
 @dohniks, nope. only for flo. the old pre-ubports hoster of alternate images did have deb builds though
 but, iirc, they might have just been copies of the flow images into the 'deb' directory
 yeah you are right, but different scaling I guess...don't mind my out of this world assumption 😝
 It's not entirely clear whether they're 2012 or 2013 either
 ohhh. it's from ... whatshisname the multirom guy!
 @dohniks, yes
 @UniversalSuperBox, if there's a bunch of Galaxy Nexus phones along with, probably mostly 2012s
 ubports isn't *building* the flo kernel or are we?
 we are
 just reusing an old kernel binary ?!
 ha. ok
 we have to build the kernel, for the ubuntu specific patches
 which is why devices that don't have kernel sources, can't have ports
 hmmm
 so I have multirom on my Nexus 5, that means I don't use custom UT kernel?
 well, we *have* a deb kernel without *building* it today
 someone did it in the past and the binary still exists and still works
 well sure
 so, are we *today* in a position to rebuild flo kernel?
 you don't have to rebuild it daily with the rootfs. but if it's just using an old build, maybe it needs updated
 We're reusing the Android build at least
 I'm not sure about the kernel, but we're probably reusing it as well
 when I last looked (long time ago, was hoping to reuse flo stuff to rebuild deb) I couldn't find it.
 ..- -... .--. --- .-. - ...   .-. --- -.-. -.- ...
 Who knows morse code?
 i know off topic
 I need to learn it
 Can you help me?
 it is off topic. we have @ubports_ot for off topic discussions
[19:30] <ubptgbot> Spleephy was added by: Spleephy
 Hello everyone : ) I would know if Ubuntu Touch is availible on Polaroid Pro Series x64 ( https://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/tablettes-tactiles-ebooks/tablette-pro-series-10-1-polaroid-midw245p-133/f-10798-midw245p133.html) … Thank's : )
 It is not
 Tho 😢
 Do you know anyone other win I can install ? ;'(
 [Edit] Do you know anyone other than  win I can install ? ;'(
 Oh, Windows. You could try any Linux distribution for general hardware I think.
 they will support touchscreen for a debian based for exemple ? : o
 Maybe,
 [Edit] Maybe?
 I'll try x')
 I'm no expert on that. You might want to try one of their support channels
 ok, thanks : )
 No problem. Have fun!
 🙏
 Qué compraste?
 @UniversalSuperBox, Not by Canonical. Nor was bacon.
 @UniversalSuperBox, I use it on all my computers :D
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/PwvpAIMG.png
 @mariogrip, what do you do when navigation key input borks?
 @dohbee, huh? not have any problems with it tbh
 If nothing else, `ctrl+D, ctrl+alt+T`
 @mariogrip, it constantly ends up with arrow keys, home, end, etc… not working for me, in my VM
 @dohbee, humm, i dunno, but it have just worked for me.
 @dohbee, was that an u8 wm?
 since mir is not the nicest to use in a wm
 @mariogrip, yeah, i've not tried the app outside unity8
 well any wayland thingy does not really work in a wm
 mir works pretty much fine there. just annoying that i can't change the resolution
 Marius... Virtual starts with a W. :P
 last time i tired it had some vierd mouse issues, but was the same issue with mutter so
 @UniversalSuperBox, lol
 @UniversalSuperBox, no
 Wait... Now you got me doing it!
 Aaaaah!
 @UniversalSuperBox, where are your nuclear wessels
 wm is much cooler then vm so :P
 eh the mouse is a bit weird for some reason, but not sure if that's a bug in qemu or mir/unity8 with the cursor weirdness it has
 but it doesn't do crazy software cursor stuff for keyboard. it should just be going through libinput to the app
 anyway. 🤷‍♀️
 @dohbee, happens for me if i use any wayland/mir things tbh. x11 works perfectly
 @mariogrip, (in a vm)
 @mariogrip, windows has some similar oddities with cursor. i think there have been some fixes for it in libvirt or qemu, but not sure if in a newer version than is in 18.04 or not. but i think that's more specifically just due to the fact that they're doing more cursor handling directly
 alas
 right, x11 probobly has a driver just for vm's
 I will leave the group for a few days, I will be back soon💪💪
 @mariogrip, well, x11 is also designed as a network transport, so probably some room in there for slowness, which doesn't exist in fully local compositing, too. but yeah, not sure what the exact deal is with the cursor
 Hello
 How can I install ubuntu touch in my tv box mx9?
 Does anyone know?
 you cannot
 it is not a supported device
 Bad
 How sad
 Thanks
 android based devices require specific ports to be built
 Ok
 also, support for a TV interface was never really done, so it'd likely be quite odd to use on a tv device
 Yes
 it would be great if we could just build one image that worked on all android devices, but alas, that is impossible
 Unfortunately
 Whatsup also only works as a webapp
 Doesn´t it?
 Whatsapp and the great majoriry of the apps of Android
 The most popular ones
 whatsapp only works on android/ios. the web version only works while such a device is actively connected
 well yes, many apps are only on android
 but that has nothing to do with UT
 if you want UT versions of those apps, feel free to ask the developers of those apps to provide UT versions
 Ok
 I could be interested in a nexus 7 if ut works well on it...
[21:40] <ubptgbot> imparker was added by: imparker
 Hello everyone!
 what sms app is avaliable for ubports?
 would signal work on it?
 Yes, TextSecure / Signal is available in the OpenStore
 For SMS, we have an app built in
 https://open-store.io/app/textsecure.nanuc
[21:47] <ubptgbot> wad rad was added by: wad rad
 wonderful!
 and is firefox on there too?
 there's not a touch friendly version of firefox built for UT no
 the traditional version is usable within libertine though as a legacy application
 (which is only sensible to do if you connect to an external display)
 Perople are so funny. To whomever it may concern, please read my answer about free speech and then understand that moderation is not censorship but our free expression of opinion: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1489/off-topic
 I moderate a channel. Free speech is important but if you join the channel and start posting ads and porn 4 seconds after joining you're getting banned.
 Do any of you have a link where I could get a meizu pro 5?
 @Flohack, looks in moderation history
 Oh, he posted a couple links without context which were deleted. I wonder if that's what he's on about?
 hmm
 maybe. Was it in OT?
 On the forum
 in the OT forum I mean
 Yes, but our moderators are highly tuned to possible spam posts
 The forum gets a surprising amount of spam
 hmm clear
 As I said, we are not obliged to publish everything what people want, even in OT. Every OT is in some forum a chit-chat place but you also dont spam your neighbour at the next table in a coffeeshop
 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCQI0IT/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_13_w … Would this be compatable?
 It is not
 because note?
 It's not the same device
 It's not the same family of device, either
 darn, alright
 But in the Android world, every device is different. Even ones with identical specifications could have wildly different drivers and software required to make them work.
 understood. I just wish I could find where to buy one
 Would this be the right one? … https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_259930.html
 sorry for spamming the channel
 I want to say it looks right, but I don't know if 4G is right
 You are looking for pro5 only?
 @imparker, just make sure you dont by the chinise version, thats locked down alot
 the global version works fine, that's what my pro5 is
 @dohbee, Yeah. Based on the chart on your site it this seems like the highest end supported.
 for speed it would go for oneplus one, it feels alot smoother and faster
 pro5 has an amazing camera though
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Meizu-MX4-Pro-Gray-LTE-4G-Octa-Core-20-7MP-RAM-3GB-ROM-16GB-Mobile-Phone/323354629286?hash=item4b497014a6:g:0u0AAOSwkcFbEuKA
 The MX4 Pro is not the same as the MX4
 oneplus one also has better ram speed, even though it has a lower cpu clock it feels faster
 darnet I'm not having a good time here.
 Okay. I emailed Meizu and I'll see what they have to say. Thakn you @mariogrip, I'll keep that in mind in case meizu doesn't pull through
 I'm still gunning for the pro 5 because USB C
 also the simplest to get is probobly nexus 5, they are eveywhere on ebay
 @imparker, right, but keep in mind it's still usb 2 so its pretty much the same exept the port itself
[22:23] <ubptgbot> Boom_boom_boom_boom_boom was added by: Boom_boom_boom_boom_boom
 @mariogrip, Its possible, but really hard, I have the Chinese one