[00:57] Someone needs to have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1783363 [00:57] Ubuntu bug 1783363 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Use of activities in GNOME Shell 3.28.3 prohibits applications from being displayed" [Critical,Confirmed] [00:57] It's pretty murderously awful. [00:59] Trevinho: ^ [00:59] infinity: fixed already [00:59] Oh? [00:59] Trevinho: Not in the archive, it's not. :P [01:00] infinity: no, i know :P [01:00] https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/350754 [01:00] let me add the bug in the changelog now though [01:02] Man, I'd forgotten this was all in js. [01:02] Kinda makes me regret eating. [01:07] :) [01:09] Morning Trevinho. I shouldn't be saying morning in my morning [01:10] hi duflu [01:10] well, still night here :) [01:10] It was also night here just over 2 hours ago [01:12] Trevinho: Anyhow, not going to suggest that you should work into the middle of the night or anything, but please do pass the baton on that and make sure it's uploaded "soon". We have lots of real users of cosmic (not the least of which are half of Canonical's engineers), and that bug is amazingly awful for anyone who happens to log out in the window where they're exposed. :P [01:12] I know I regret rebooting today. :) [01:13] infinity: well, I whish I could do that, but I'm not in ~ubuntu-desktop.... thus, I can't [01:13] (And yes, downgrading to the previous version works, at least) [01:13] I should really apply for that one day :) [01:13] Trevinho: Oh. I can sponsor it for you, but I'm hardly in a position to actually review the mess of a diff. [01:13] And I'm not generally keen on blind sponsorship. [01:14] Get a +1 from someone else who also can't upload? :P [01:14] infinity: well, using gbp pq import you can have a nicer diff and then compare against previous origin/ubuntu/master [01:14] Trevinho: Oh, I didn't mean the diff was too messy to read, I meant the context is pretty much meaningless to me. [01:15] ah, ok... I thought the diff of a diff thing :) [01:15] well, laney will do it tomorrow morning if anyone can't do it now [01:15] Nah, diffs of patches are something my twisted mind understands fine. [01:15] duflu: if you can test that, maybe? [01:16] Trevinho, I have no idea what you're talking about [01:16] infinity: or well, just a run-and check in this case is quite enough though [01:16] duflu: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/350754 [01:18] Trevinho, I feel like I know those bugs so can test it. Not so familiar with the code [01:19] duflu: well, it's mostly just a refresh of the patch against the proposed changes upstream, we had some leftovers in the previous git rebase, thus the mess :) [01:19] Trevinho, yes I can test that branch today. You can sleep [01:19] I think I know what bugs those are [01:19] duflu: ta, for thesting those patches, are you familiar with gbp? [01:20] Not unless that's a typo [01:20] git-buildpackage [01:20] you only have to add that remote, switch to my ubuntu/master branch, gbp pq import and you're on the patches [01:20] But in this case, since the patches are all to .js files, unless there's post-processing in the build system, you might be able to just drop them in place on a system and see the magic? [01:21] Yeah I build gnome-shell every day. I'll just do it however I feel [01:21] I mean, after unpacking/patching the source package with that branch. [01:22] Anyhow, I'll go away now. Just wanted to make sure this was being dealt with after the mild annoyance (read: furious anger) that was my afternoon. :P [01:22] I'm calmer now. :) [01:22] git remote add 3v1n0 lp:~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell; git fetch 3v1n0; git checkout -b 3v1n0/ubuntu/master 3v1n0/ubuntu/master; gbp pq import and then just run as you're used too [01:22] duflu: ^ [01:22] Oh I can get a 3v1n0 via the git protocol now [01:22] Trevinho: Side note, you'd be amazed how hard it is to avoid pressing a button on your keyboard even when you know that button will destroy your session and force you to log out. [01:22] well you can name it also just marco if you want to type it easier :-D [01:23] Yeah I'll get to it. Will feel better if I can clear out the email first [01:24] infinity: hehe :) [01:24] I'm pretty sure I know... [01:24] Trevinho, mostly I'm impressed you got upstream to give you feedback, eventually [01:25] duflu: you know... GUADEC, beers, night-swimming:.. :-D [01:25] Trevinho, I heard a little more at lunch with James [01:25] duflu: and also Florian has probably more time to dedicate to that :) [01:25] Reminds me of when we had that "Ctrl-C in chroots murders the world" bug, but Ctrl-C is how I've cleared the shell cmdline for the last 25 years or so. You can't re-learn that. [01:25] Yeah, true... [01:25] infinity: ^W in firefox. every few days I lose a tab. :( [01:26] however, Ctrl+W is something for example is always destroying... But I use it in the shell to delete the word, while in nano is to save or in UI to close a window... [01:27] sarnold: yeah, you see what I mean then :)( [01:27] sarnold: every few days? i do that a few times while commenting on a github PR [01:27] Trevinho: yeah. the word is most definitely *gone*, no doubt about that. :) but so is everything else on the page... hehe [01:27] Oh how convenient. That bug is in my email shortlist too [01:27] yep :P [01:28] duflu: however, I've not updated everything the patch completely as per upstream, just made things work for now [01:31] Trevinho, I'm happy to see gnome-shell!8 got somewhere :) [01:32] * duflu doesn't want to ask upstream to "hurry up" on anything because that could cause an avalanche [01:32] Too many snow peaks to maintain [01:39] yeah, things are coming, need to talk more with upstream, and be more upstream too :) [01:45] Trevinho, both bug 1719408 and bug 1653153 share the same upstream link. Is it possible to merge them? [01:45] bug 1719408 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Application window outside of its frame in spread mode" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719408 [01:45] bug 1653153 in GNOME Shell "Windows not always drawn in correct places in AO when under Wayland" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1653153 [01:46] yeah, indeed [01:46] since one is fixed, mark 1719408 as duplicate of the other [01:58] Trevinho, thanks too! That spew of errors from gnome-shell was driving me crazy (when building upstream code, not Ubuntu)\ [06:07] good morning [06:19] Heya didrocks [06:20] hey tsimonq2 [06:21] Morning didrocks, tsimonq2 [06:22] Hey duflu [06:22] hey duflu [06:33] good morning desktoppers [06:33] Hi oSoMoN [06:33] hi duflu [06:34] Heya oSoMoN [06:37] hey tsimonq2 [06:43] salut oSoMoN [06:47] salut didrocks [07:31] didrocks, do you have the power to push this through? https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/350754 [07:33] duflu: "push this through" == pushing to the ~ubuntu-desktop master branch. Do you want an upload to cosmic as well or should we wait? [07:33] didrocks, it's already a critical regression so my gut tells me we need to upload ASAP [07:34] duflu: well, cosmic is a dev branch [07:34] Yeah but enough people are using it as their desktop to notice [07:34] but I can push it [07:35] Marco worked hard on it. He was still awake when I logged in [07:35] if launchpad doesn't hang on my git pull :/ [07:35] 1024 bytes/s [07:36] Welcome to the future future future [07:36] still stuck, got 20.00 KiB [07:37] ah 36 now [07:37] * duflu imagines dialup modem sounds [07:37] heh, exactly :) [07:37] sounds a new trend between GNOME gitlab and launchpad ;) [07:37] like* [07:37] duflu: anyway, I'll merge it and sponsor it [07:37] (cosmic) [07:37] Thanks didrocks [07:38] yw [07:38] good morning didrocksos duflu [07:38] Hi seb128 [07:39] hey seb128 [07:41] duflu, was that bug impacting every user? or is it random/config dependent? [07:41] seb128, seems to be consistent, but only after you have an app/window open [07:41] duflu, said differently, how come such regressions are not noticed during pre-upload testing [07:41] Cosmic only [07:42] our testplan seems week [07:42] weak [07:42] seb128, I don't know. I wasn't involved in that upload and am not familiar with the testing it received [07:42] Trevinho, ^ [07:42] also is the issue Ubuntu specific? [07:43] or is upstream sucking as much as we do at testing their releases? [07:43] seb128, yes it was a bad mixture of pre-existing (good) Ubuntu patches and the new upstream release. Only affecting Ubuntu I think. [07:43] k [08:00] what's up [08:02] hey Laney [08:02] Morning Laney [08:03] hey Laney,how are you? [08:04] hey seb128 [08:04] good [08:04] good morning laney [08:04] moin oSoMoN & duflu & didrocks too [08:11] $ git push lp:~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell ubuntu/master --tags [08:11] Everything up-to-date [08:11] head is at 1d1e6b4d8727a90c139cfa80b21e6ece1c727bb0 [08:11] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+ref/ubuntu/master doesn't seem to have updated though [08:11] * didrocks puzzled [08:12] it's sometimes a bit slow [08:12] ok, pushed it like 5 minutes ago [08:12] Hmm. That suggests the commit was older than HEAD [08:12] didn't see it updated, hence doing the explicit command to check it was fine :) [08:12] duflu: it's not [08:12] it usually has a yellow "updating" note though when that's pending refresh? [08:13] No worries. Thanks didrocks [08:13] on this page https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/, yes [08:13] ah, on the repo page [08:13] thanks Laney! Let's wait [08:13] the browse page is instant [08:14] ah indeed https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/ [08:15] ok, let's wait for launchpad to update, close automatically the MP… [08:15] Morning willcooke [08:15] hi duflu [08:15] darn jetlag is killing me this week for some reason [09:16] willcooke: mind having a look and maybe a PR for english typo fixes? https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/blob/master/debian/control#L15 [09:17] didrocks, looking [09:34] Morning seb128 [09:35] hey Trevinho, how are you? [09:35] Yes it was for everybody... A merge issue on JS [09:35] seb128: good, yes... You? [09:37] Trevinho, I'm good, thanks! It's a bit less hot today which is nice [09:39] "less", lucky you! [09:39] 27.7 inside already :( [09:41] :< [10:06] didrocks, some very minor changes: https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/651 [10:06] ubuntu issue (Pull request) 651 in yaru "Update control" (comments: 0) [Open] [10:06] willcooke: thanks a lot! I need to check you didn't pass over the treshold and created lintian warnings :) [10:07] willcooke: so, "shaped by" is correct english? [10:07] yeah, wfm [10:10] good! no new lintian warning, let me merge and upload to cosmic [10:10] seb128: FYI ^ [10:10] good job! [10:13] and uploaded, in NEW in few minutes [10:15] :3 [11:59] Could anyone please take a look at my MP? https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/software-properties/port-away-from-kde/+merge/349592 [12:05] tsimonq2, try with foundations / bdmurray, we don't maintain software-properties [12:06] seb128: ack, thanks. [12:06] yw! [12:25] LET'S DO AN UPDATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [12:25] YEAH I LOVE UPDATES [12:31] :) [12:41] Laney: Did somebody say... UUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS?!? [13:08] 16. [13:08] erm [13:08] 16.04 -> 18.04 upgrade worked. [13:08] Snaps installed [13:08] woo [13:09] There is a UX issue when it's installing the snaps though, it sits there for ages seemingly doing nothing, but it is installing the snaps. jibel is seeing if that can be improved [13:13] willcooke: mind checking your ubuntu-report content btw? [13:13] didrocks, roger [13:13] I checked it very quickly at log in and it looked fine [13:13] but lemme share it [13:14] interested in some particular section which should have additional info as an upgrader [13:14] didrocks, can you remind me where the file is? [13:15] willcooke: should be ~/.cache/ubuntu-report/ubuntu.18.04 [13:16] didrocks, I did and it's fine [13:17] nice, thanks jibel! [13:17] https://pastebin.com/2e5wFxLH [13:17] good, you have latest version, as expected, with additional CPU & screen size info [13:18] and the "Upgrade" section is as expected :) [13:18] ah, you used do-release-upgrade, not the GUI? ;) [13:19] (and 50 minutes for the upgrade, not bad) [13:23] didrocks, yeah did cli and jibel did gui [13:24] didrocks, about ubuntu-report, there is one case that generate weird reports it's netboot installation. This is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N9QZzSYSsg/ [13:26] jibel: because of BIOS version or anything else? [13:27] didrocks, because there is no install or upgrade section [13:28] didrocks, it's still be interesting to know it's a fresh installation even if the data from ubiquity is not there [13:28] yeah, does it starts ubiquity is some weird mode with no /target/ ? [13:28] didrocks, no netboot is d-i. Ubiquity is not involved at all [13:29] ah, well, that's expected then [13:30] remember that initial plan before I moved that to the session requested was to have everything sent by ubiquity, meaning that even those data would have never been send, it's still a thing [13:30] yes, but it'd be nice to know it's a d-i installation [13:30] maybe get it added to the trello board ? Doesn't sound like a small change [13:30] k, will do [13:30] thx [13:37] hi, are language-support-translations-* packages/references still a thing? [14:49] ricotz: not sure what that is personally, some langpack thing? [15:06] Laney, e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-support-translations-en/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW [15:07] still dunno what it is [15:07] https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-support-translations-en [15:09] I guess those are some ancient metapackages? [15:09] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/language-support-translations-en/trusty/view/head:/debian/control [15:10] if you press overview you can see that that package has been removed [15:10] ah I see [15:10] so whatever it was, I guess it's not being used any more [15:11] libreoffice packaging still contains some references to it, so I guess those can be dropped [15:11] yeh, probably [15:39] seb128: when you have time, do you mind subscribing desktop-packages to yaru-theme? [15:40] (or whatever is the expected "right" team) [15:40] done [15:40] thx! [15:40] np! [15:41] * didrocks waits for binNEW before subscribing the team [15:49] seb128: can we make versions track 3.29 somehow? === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [16:19] is there any way to set the dns server priority between two different network interfaces with systemd-resolved? === jetsaredim2 is now known as jetsaredim [16:43] Laney, sure, let me do that [16:44] nice [16:46] Trevinho: don't know if you have some time, but I just pushed gnome-shell 3.29.4 to debian experimental, would be nice if you could merge that into ubuntu/master [16:46] too much delta in our package that I don't understand [16:47] and mutter of course, but we have no ubuntu changes there :> [20:41] Laney: yeah, I actually did the merge with previous version some time ago [20:41] so I can take it back, but I prefer to go back a bit more into upstream code now :), so I'll do it but in next weeks [20:42] [before ff]