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C0c0dril022Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/01:09
chris1Hello,01:36
chris1Is anyone here having issues with the snap installation of spotify? It will not let me change the dowload directory due to "insufficiant permissions"01:36
valoriehmmm, was not aware that there was a snap of that, chris101:41
valorieI would ask in #ubuntu which is a much larger channel01:41
valorieKubuntu doesn't package or handle snaps or spotify01:41
Tin__manchris1, Pithos is a linux version of Pandora, and it does well.01:51
chris1valorie thank you I will :)02:09
valorie:-)02:09
Logan22Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/03:01
Khaoticany idea what can make the sudo command take a long time to execute? only thing that is different is that I tried to install the driver for my wireless usb adapter03:06
ozy7Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/03:15
valorieKhaotic: it's always been nearly instant03:20
valorieno clue03:21
robertmetaTrying to puzzle out how to set gamma with nvidia drivers for only a single screen.  I can do it with the nvidia x-server stuff, but it seems like the KDE gamma takes over it, but won't let me do it per-screen03:31
robertmetaadjusts both03:31
nosbig77Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/04:34
rogue3Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/04:35
ChasedSpade2513Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/04:44
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USERFAMEhello. What is the issue here(KDE env), when I mouseover withouth clicking or touching keyboard in the main application menu - it closes, every so often as if menu gets cancelled? It is not a mouse -- I tried external mouse, same thing happens04:58
circle15Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/05:18
circle15or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/05:18
noaXessgood morning06:18
noaXessim on kubuntu 16.04.5, KDE Plasme 5.8.9, KDW FW 5.36.0, Qt 5.6.1 64bit06:18
noaXessif opening eg. firefox i can't open the settings menu (3-bar icon).. or even the bookmarks menu....06:19
noaXesssame is for eg. "Back in Time", there i can't open any menu...06:19
noaXessany idea, hint?06:19
diogenes_noaXess: tried to rename .mozilla?06:21
noaXessit is not only firefox, similar issue also in Back In Time...06:22
noaXessi also refreshes/reseted firefox... still same issue06:22
diogenes_try a new user06:22
noaXessnew linux user?06:25
diogenes_yes add a test user06:26
noaXessokies.. let me test.. bbs06:27
noaXessback..06:30
noaXessdiogenes_: same issue also with new user...06:30
noaXessdiogenes_: in ff it's about this icons/buttons https://imgur.com/a/3fbBGrR06:31
diogenes_noaXess: what to you get: apt list --installed | grep topmenu06:32
noaXessin Back in Time about the menu and the profil selection https://imgur.com/a/odsaU0t06:33
noaXesslet me check06:33
noaXesssudo apt list --installed | grep topmenu06:34
noaXessWARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.06:34
noaXessnothing else06:34
diogenes_how did you install kde on xubuntu?06:34
noaXessit's Kubuntu... i installed Kubuntu ISO.. 16.04.. but long time ago.. at the time 16.04 was released.. and all worked until.. i say one or two weeks ago.. then with any update.. this menu's disapeared06:35
diogenes_noaXess: try this: http://fasterland.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/plasma-59-widget-style-panel.png06:36
diogenes_but choose in applications06:36
noaXessdiogenes_: i don't have "Menubar style:" ??!!06:37
diogenes_then it's some bug either in plasma or firefox package06:38
noaXesshm.. do you have installed topmenu-gtk2 or topmenu-gtk3?06:38
noaXesshttps://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/844rwn/menubar_style_option_missing_from_widget_style/06:38
diogenes_i use a different distro06:39
BackUP26Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/06:43
BackUP26or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/06:43
BackUP26Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate06:43
noaXesssolved temprary my problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1058632/firefox-menu-and-add-on-button-not-working-similar-problem-in-okular06:55
noaXessneeded to set rendering backend to XRender... with OpenGL 2 or 3.1 even not working...06:55
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lutki_28Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/07:20
Guest86743Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/07:24
Grimnir19Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/07:28
lynxis5Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/07:33
lynxis5or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/07:33
lynxis5Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate07:33
nolsen16Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/07:43
OvidiuS22Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/07:58
OvidiuS22or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/07:58
bairdmichHey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/08:08
bairdmichor maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/08:08
Selavi2314Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/08:08
marcoslaterHey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/08:33
marcoslateror maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/08:33
marcoslaterRead what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate08:33
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stoner1928Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/09:43
rodarmorHey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/10:18
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arahael24Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/10:23
Metacity8Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/10:33
BluesKajHi all10:59
jrssSo last night I was playing a game. I got pissed, ctrl+f4 to get out of it. Not unusual for me.11:19
jrssKubuntu crashes. Computer restarts.11:19
jrssNo more Kubuntu. Computers starts into Windows, and no matter how I choose my hard drive in bios selection, no Kubuntu anymore. nothing.11:19
jrssI looked online, found this thing, boot repair. Tried it.11:19
jrssnow grub has me in some emergency mode loop for kubuntu (doesn't boot, keeps trying) and there's no more windows either.11:20
jrssCurrently trying to create windows media tool, and see if I can use that to repair the boot somehow.11:20
jrssno idea what happened, or why. I have an idea that the repair tool killed windows, ok. but before that, no11:20
BluesKajjrss, did you try the recovery/alternate kernel in grub?11:22
jrssyes, there are four option, two "regular" and two .. um.. I think it says recovery11:23
jrssa menu shows up, I can't move the curour because my keyboard is not responding11:24
jrssit's backlit LED, and the light is off completely.11:24
jrss(in this boot mode, otherwise it's working fine)11:24
BluesKajwhy did you exit the game with ctl+F4 , whynot use the escape key?11:28
SlashLife7Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/11:28
EvanR13Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/11:44
BluesKajdamn bot attacks11:45
stalled16Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/11:58
timwis16Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/11:58
jrsshmmm maybe it's my cmos battery12:05
jrsscomputer crashes, can't see all hard drives, keyboard is dead....12:05
jrssand most important, time zones, it always resets12:06
jrssyep. I think that's the thing.12:06
oerheksjrss, indeed, symptoms of a dead bios battery12:06
BluesKajjrss, my colleagues tell me that using ctrl+F4 should not have anything to do with grub12:06
jrssoerheks, this you can get in any staples or best buy right?12:06
oerheksjrss, sure, i usually take one from an old pc12:07
jrssBluesKaj, yeah I think it's just coincidence. I can't even get into BIOS now because keyboard is just dead. won't power up from USB, no reaction12:07
jrssoh hmmmmmm12:07
jrssI might be able to do thatr12:07
oerheksCR203212:08
jrssbut how much do they cost? can't be that much12:08
oerheksless than $512:08
oerheksbut if you need to travel 10 miles+, i would check for anunused pc12:09
jrssnah i'm in the city12:10
jrssI was planning a walk to the library anyway, then it's like 3 minutes from there12:10
jrssStaples that is.12:10
jrssare there different kinds? last time I did something like that was ages ago12:11
oerheksi just gave you a number12:15
oerheksCR2032 .. or the weaker CR201612:16
BluesKajsuch a small thing can cause such chaos12:17
oerheksbuilding a pc, and not using all spacer positions, that also act as a electric ground point, harder to detect12:20
oerheks:-D12:20
oerheks$0.1512:21
BluesKajyeah , oerheks I mounted a new mobo in an OEM  box and there were fewer mounting screw holes than the mobo had12:25
jrsssorry oerheks I missed it12:25
jrsssaw it now12:25
jrssI hope that would be it. meh12:26
BluesKajjrss, the number is plainly stamped on the battery12:28
jrssok. yeah I'll open it up in a sec12:30
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oerheksSet /umode +R if you're getting tons of nonsensical PMs14:38
BluesKajoerheks, yeah , which to avoid that?14:47
BluesKajmode14:47
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oerheksthe + R is for registered users only, pm14:48
BluesKajhow to set tho? I'm getting unknown command in the server14:50
BluesKajgot it now14:52
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jubo218.04.1 is released tomorrow?15:22
jubo2I can hardly wait15:22
Compujubo2: same15:40
jubo2I've been told that the distribution upgrade from 16.04.4 and 17.10.something should be smooth sailing .. from 15 -> 16 (iirc) there were some major architectural changes which caused troubled upgrades15:43
Compuand here's me still on ubuntu 14.04 >.>15:44
Compusupported until 2019 <.<15:44
jubo2Hold on.. this says the release is today (at least for Ubuntu) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule15:46
jubo2Is Kubuntu 18.04.1 out already?15:46
Compucheck the website15:46
Compunope15:47
jubo2Compu: URL plos15:47
Compujubo2: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/15:50
jubo2That does not state the release date fo 18.04.115:53
Compuno but it shows it's not out yet15:58
mparilloIf you want to save time, you can zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/bionic/daily-live/current/bionic-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync16:05
pineapplelover_hello I am running ubuntu 16.04 and update manager is not showing 18.04 for upgrade16:26
pineapplelover_someone told me I should wait for ubuntu 18.04.1 to be released...16:26
pineapplelover_which I think they did today16:26
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jubo2That reminds me.. Pineapple contains Bromelain which is nature's effective cough medicine. When is the Kubuntu 17.04.1 coming out..? Searching I don't find the release schedule.. maybe I suck at searching17:11
jubo2typo.. of course meant 18.04.117:12
robertmetaTrying to puzzle out how to set gamma with nvidia drivers for only a single screen.  I can do it with the nvidia x-server stuff, but it seems like the KDE gamma takes over it, but won't let me do it per-screen17:15
viktorHey, any news on when kde 5.13 will be available for kubuntu 18.04 ^_^18:21
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IrcsomeBot<Scyt4l3> @viktor, Only in the Backports PPA19:22
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viktorEven in backports it's still 5.12 :/19:31
oft_gegongI love KDE, it has an option to swap CapsLock:Escape keys and it has the option to turn down the volume/brightness of the screen. spiffy19:35
geniiviktor: It's in the kubuntu experimental PPA currently if you're that impatient and want to test.19:41
robertmetaoft_gegong: it is very nice, I want per-screen gamma -- but can't seem to find out how to set that via the KDE gamma tool19:41
genii( insert the usual dire warnings here about using PPAs )19:42
oft_gegongrobertmeta: there might be a way to set per-screen gamma, let me check my configs..19:50
oft_gegongrobertmeta: ~/.config/kgammarc  #<---it's located at this file19:51
oft_gegongif you edit it the screen may update on-the-fly, I'm 68% sure19:51
oft_gegongI found the file by going:    cd ~; grep -RsHIni gamma ./19:52
viktorgenii: any idea when it will be in main backports repo?19:53
geniiIt would probably be in the updates repo, and not backports.19:56
geniiBackports are when a newer application or framework are ported back to a previous version of *buntu from a current one19:57
viktoroh okay, I was told to expect it in the backports repo19:58
viktorso how (and when) can we (kubuntu 18.04 community) get kde 5.13?20:01
jrssDear people of Kubuntu. I need your help. My computer won't boot to Kubuntu anymore, and, as of last night when i tried the repair tool, it won't boot to windows either.21:02
jrssI get emergency mode, and asked to press ctrl+d to continue, and when I do, it repeats. it's a loop21:03
jrsshelp me get my kubuntu and windows back? >.>21:03
oft_gegonghmm sounds like you disabled hard drive in BIOS21:03
oft_gegongor enabled secure boot21:04
oft_gegongor something like that21:04
jrssok update. I played around with some USB live CD (I have no idea what I did) and now grub asks me for ubuntu or windows 10. windows 10 was not an option for the last 24 hours.21:05
jrssSo I can now boot intwo windows 10.21:05
jrssThere are many things here.. I replaced my CMOS battery too... I don't know where to start21:06
jrssand I had some beer. to make things easier. to explain. you see.21:06
jrss>.>21:06
jrssthis is very weird. What i did is trying to create windows 10 live CD. After I restarted my computer, and tried to start from my main hard drive, suddently windows 10 became an option. it was NOT there forever.21:10
jrssI still can't boot into Kubuntu, seems like. It boots into emergency mode loop21:10
oft_gegonghmmm sounds like something messed with the boot loader21:11
jrsshow would you go check these, so it doesn't happen again?21:12
oft_gegonghmmm21:12
jrssI am now creation windows 10 "live CD" and I will create a kubuntu one as well21:12
jrssbefore I try to restart again21:12
jrss*creating21:12
oft_gegongyeah a Kubuntu liveDVD is definitely recommended, then you can get in a live environment, chroot in, and reinstall grub221:13
jrssI thikn that's kind of what the boot tool did before, but it really messed up stuff21:13
jrssI'm not sure why it "forgot" there's Kubuntu on this computer to begin with21:14
oft_gegongLet me tell you really quick, I 98% suck with grub2, I don't understand when boot-loaders get burned into the hard drive at /dev/sda, I don't understand it. Not to mention ext4 partitions being bootable flag in gparted, it's weird. UEFI VS legacy boot in BIOS makes things even weirder.21:14
jrssmaybe it was my CMOS battery all along21:14
jrsshmmmm21:14
oft_gegongjrss: you can tell the CMOS battery is going out when you go into BIOS settings and the time is 197021:15
jrssso what you're saying is I should have more beer and trust everything you're saying and hope for the best?21:15
jrsscool.21:15
jrssoft_gegong,  oh it was going out alright. but I ignored it. because I'm smart, see.21:15
oft_gegongdrink beer, get some pizza, and just install Linux Mint, j/king. I mean install Kubuntu on a USB or put Kubuntu as a liveUSB on a USB with unetbootin like what I have or something jeez21:16
oft_gegongbasically what you really need is a recovery DVD or recovery USB that has some linux like kubuntu21:17
jrssi am coming from linux mint actually :p21:17
oft_gegongthat way you can run gparted/fdisk to work with the partitions on your hard disk21:18
jrssyeah. I have kde partitions or what not21:18
jrssI can use that right21:18
oft_gegongwhoa KDE has a partition manager21:18
jrssyep, comes built in with KDE21:19
jrssit looks nice21:19
oft_gegongwhoooooooa21:19
jrssyou didn't know?21:19
jrss:D21:19
jrssis cool, not making fun, happy to inform you then21:19
oft_gegongyeah it looks good21:20
* oft_gegong scratches head "I'll probably just keep with gparted as I had no idea about this and whether gparted has other beneficial ways of using it"21:21
jrssI'm making the kubuntu live CD now21:23
jrsssay, besides plasma, lots of differences between u and k?21:23
valoriejrss: yes, KDE Frameworks rather than the gtk libraries21:29
valorieand the application are 99% different21:30
valoriethe only common one is Firefox afaik21:30
jrssso now getting into kubuntu with live CD21:32
jrsshow should i go at repairing the bios ?21:33
oft_gegongyou could try resetting the BIOS to default settings if you've messed it up too badly21:33
oft_gegongI'd 13% recommend that21:34
jrssdude I have no idea how it was before lol21:34
jrssI just know that choosing the hard drive kubuntu is on doesn't boot kubuntu21:34
oft_gegongyeah same here I don't know I'm doing 30% of the time when I'm fixing something in the BIOS. seriously. like there was this setting to change between hardware and software controlled, I was setting that like a random binary digit21:35
oft_gegongif you asked me what it was set to after booting I wouldn't've known21:36
jrsshmmm21:38
jrssI mean i can just instlal the whole thing again I guess21:38
jrsssee that's another thing. windows has the recovery partition in that hard drive.21:39
jrssI don't wanna mess THAT up if I reinstall21:39
jrssoyyyyy.21:39
jrssguess I'll just wait until someone can help me with that hmmm21:44
jrssor do I contiue.21:44
jrssok I really don't know what to do. Can't boot to windows, can't boot to kubuntu22:09
jrssugh.22:09
jrssI think the boot repair tool is messed up. for my needs anyway22:09
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jrsssooo I need help have grub figure out I have a windows installtion22:33
valorie`sudo update-grub` always works in my experience23:43
valoriebut jrss needs to stick around!23:43

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