[02:00] <ubptgbot> Iamvp7 was added by: Iamvp7
[07:13] <ubptgbot> CosmosS7 was added by: CosmosS7
 @mariogrip, What? Really? Ahahha
 @mateosalta, me too....any issue with that chinese version? Is the 64 GB or 32 GB?
[09:24] <ubptgbot> 15th Frank was added by: 15th Frank
 Hi @Iamvp7 @CosmosS7 & 15th, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed. … There are language focus groups available too :)
 has anyone tried rndis on xenial? … it doesn't seem to work on mine....
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 [Edit] Hi @Iamvp7 & @CosmosS7, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed. … There are language focus groups available too :) … (Edit to remove the spammer)
 Always use this option for the Pro 5:
 https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/95-new-Meizu-PRO-5-64GB-4gbRAM-LTE-Unlocked-DualSIM-21Mcam-NFC-FastCharge-/272196027342?nav=SEARCH
 @dohbee, Unless the device in question is a tablet, but otherwise yes.
 @mattbel10, 32, seems fine
 thanks. I'm experiencing issues with the wi-fi and GPS...I opened a bug report on GH but it is more related to the Anbox installation: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/774
 Ah, I'm still on 15.04 on it
 Maybe try getting the firmware from the latest flyme?
 Hi, after an "libertine-container-manager install-package -p firefox"   an "libertine-container-manager remove-package -p firefox"tells me that package it is not installed, but it is. I am on 15.04 stable. If someone confirms issue and tells me where to report I'll do it. Thanks.    Another: I think I read here that there is no
[10:43] <ubptgbot> way to zoom libertine apps, at least on 15.04. has someone tried to install an x-magnifier?
[11:31] <ubptgbot> ptjyawMnzRPM7 was added by: ptjyawMnzRPM7
 how many matrix rooms are there related to ubports?
 why😯😯
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Qz0vTLu0.png
 that is expected and what is designed to happen
 jk
 what phone do you have? that's quite a known problem with low ram devices like my bq E5
 I gave up so I always use my Nexus 5 now for browsing
 @JavierPuche, I don't know about 15.04 but on 16.04 I got that same error for what concerns Firefox. I'm not worried about because on xenial libertine is in development, so hopefully it will be fixed. I'm interested in the x-magnifier you are talking about by the way
 @JavierPuche, you can destroy the container and rebuild a new one after
 @Krysier, The browser on 16.04 has some issues still.
 @dohbee, As a workaround I installed "browser next" from the store.... though it has other issues as well 😊
 @TartanSpartan, This is exactly what I need!
 I'm guessing there isn't a wire app on the store you guys got?
 @imparker, AFAIK, Wire is proprietary and they do not allow independent apps
 @dohbee, https://github.com/wireapp/wire
 Go for that phone @imparker :)
 @TartanSpartan, ohw crud only 3 left i want one but i don't have enough money yet D:
 They constantly update their stock so don't worry if you can't buy it yet.
 @imparker, that is a really weird license agreement that makes no sense
 anyway, if you want a real wire app on ubuntu, it'd probably be best to ask them to create an app themselves
 i guess theoretically possible to build a wire app, and get push notification support into their server, but looks like it'd be extremely tedious to do so and work with them to get it done
 could you make a web app?
 and indeed, there is no wire app in the store currently
 all their client stuff is electron
 @imparker, i guess, but it'd be very limited in utility for a communications app
 extrapolate
 @imparker, "web app" on UT is just a link to a web site that opens in a confined browser instance. "html5 app" would be more like what electron things are. but electron itself wouldn't make much sense to use on UT generally
 So what do you think would be the best way to go about building one, if I was to undertake it myself?
 @imparker, apps are confined. without push notifications and all the work to do full integration, you're just using the web site. you don't get background processing or anything
 i'd say a native app would be best, with push notification support added to their server
 If I was to write a native app, what language do you think would be best?
 but if you just want to get something working, a webapp would probably be quickest
 qml is the standard UI toolkit for UT apps, and c++ qml plug-ins for backend stuff
 some apps are in go or python though, with qml ui
 I'm not much of a programmer, but I think I could get something figured out in order to get some form of communication going
 better join openstore or ubuntu app dev chat
 https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN this one
 and openstore chat requires an invitation
 @vanyasem, done, thanks
 @TartanSpartan, oooh nice i got some hope
 i'm gonna assume that's the best version to flash UT on
 @malditobastardo, Thanks, I was trying to avoid it as I have thunderbird in the same container and its config without external screen was a nightmare I did not want to repeat. I have not still found a valid mhl cable for my meizu mx4 😢
 @mattbel10, There are many magnifier apps for x11 environments, i'll try and report as soon as I have some spare time 👍
 @JavierPuche, Mx4 has no Slimport and no Mhl
[14:30] <ubptgbot> harishmanepally was added by: harishmanepally
 @JavierPuche, you can't really use a magnifier, because each app is run under a separate x server. i think there's some issue with video accel too
 @dohbee, xmir -x2 might work
 is that an actually valid option?
 speaking of external display screens......... it appear displaylink has an android app i wonder if we can use this to our advantage 💭
 (Photo, 1280x240) https://irc.ubports.com/9thQzT9b.png
 @Fuseteam, not likely
 awww
 @mariogrip, oh, interesting. but too ad ual doesn't auto-detect if it should be used. also, what will happen when we switch to xwayland, if we were depending on that?
 @dohbee, wayland does it a little bit differently, it makes a own wm in mir, so we can change it these iirc
 (window manager)
 @dohbee, Thanks, i doubted about it so I will not try it
 @BlueKenny, I read somewhere that it supports micro-usb to mhl but it must be wrong ...
 @JavierPuche, I read that too (years ago ;) ) but after trying multiple times + read more infos about this phone, it don't support it :/
 indeed MX4 does not have MHL
 Ok, thanks 👍
[15:42] <ubptgbot> bren_rc was added by: bren_rc
 @Fuseteam, What a great question.  In fact, the UBports Community Team is in the middle of creating an 'official' UBports Matrix Community which will include a lot of rooms.  We will also be testing out our own matrix server, which will be, however, a 'test server', until the UBports Foundation says otherwise.  So, in th
[16:28] <ubptgbot> e next few weeks you can expect to see more UBports with more Matrix for the Matrix lovers out there.
 On that note, if anyone in this community has an active matrix room, and is willing and able to give us the admin controls, we might be able to make your room 'official' too.  So please contact me by PM if this is you.
 a room or a community? 😂
 walled garden with a ceiling
 matrix community seems a bit barebones tho it does allow one to easily to find all the related rooms
 are there many rooms to be added? is there help needed in that respect :3
[16:40] <ubptgbot> Sergey Eliseev was added by: Sergey Eliseev
 Welcome Sergey !
[16:46] <ubptgbot> <Sergey Eliseev> Thanks Mathijs!
 Ok mensen Sergey is nu lid van onze groep ook ;)
 Welcome Sergey
 @Fuseteam, we haven't launched it
 @Fuseteam, are you willing to help build community?  We like community builders :)
 depends on what you mean with community but yeah i'm a community builder 😆
 @Fuseteam, i tried create my own community so yeah haha
 ```: make community … make: *** No rule to make target 'community'.  Stop.```
 hahaha
 oh rodney wherefore art tho rodney owo
 anyone with a xenial device on front right now? I just want to confirm a weird animation thing that seems to only affect the terminal app
 it happebs when switching between the terminal and another app
 I'm getting paid to do some freelance stuff today, so I'll have the funds to get the phone!
 cool
 @Javacookies, I'm switching between terminal and another app and I don't see any weird animation (krillin running xenial dev)
 really? it's like the other app slides to the left when you switch back to terminal
 @Javacookies, you mean with short swipe to the left to switch between two apps?
 😲!!! I guess it's because of the opacity of my terminal app...it's showing something that we shouldn't see LOL
 @dohbee, yes
 @advocatux, me neither but....wait, what do you mean by switching? a short swipe from the right edge of the phone?
 yes, can you try turning down the opacity?
 switching, swiping, rubbing... I don't see anything weird
 I mean the opacity of the terminal app
 With opacity set to 0 or to 100, the behaviour looks the same to me
 @Javacookies can you make a video of what happening to your phone?
 [Edit] @Javacookies can you make a video of what's happening to your phone?
 hmmm....I see....weird
 @Javacookies, yes! you are right @Javacookies, I can confirm to you! I got that strange behaviour: when you swipe from the right to put back the terminal over a settled showed whatever app, the latter disappear in a very strange way.....weird....
 @mattbel10 what device?
 pro5 16.04 devel
 Unless I'm misunderstanding the issue, it looks fine in my BQ E4.5
 heres a video showing it....apologies for the failed attempts 😅
 I'm comparing it with my Nexus 5 (vivid) and it looks the same
 @Javacookies, where's the video? 😆
 I could test later on krillin
 it's still uploading on my Nexus 7 sorry 🙂
 No problem :)
 (Video, 0s) https://irc.ubports.com/9SP8eaNu.mp4
 Ah, so that's how it gets the surfaces to move around
 @Javacookies, yes, exactly the same for me
 it's obvious on my Nexus 5 xenial but not on Nexus 7 xenial
 yeah, i'm not sure if there's a solution for that
 other than maybe not having transparent windows :)
 so we need to hide it forever so that no one sees it 😆
 let's forget what happened here
 lol
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/oyE33pMo.webm
 @Javacookies yeah, now I can reproduce it. Also depending on the background color of the other app (and its content) is more, or less, obvious
 yeah I guess that's also a factor
 Another mistery solved thanks to Mulder, Scully & Kugi 👍
 you can just do it between terminal and the preferences window
 @mattbel10 why did you remove your video? It showed the issue pretty clear
 ooooh I thought it wasn't visible...sorry.....
 I made it with my webcam
 No problem
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/g7ZKjuQ1.webm
 😝👍
 \o/
 shall we open a bug report?
 Fwd from Javacookies: let's forget what happened here
 😂
 😂😂😂
 can we create a private bug report? so that it can be revealed in the future if ever 😂
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/MVPpDqAN.png "Hidden bug with transparency"
 😂
 (but this is going down the OT way)
 I just want to confirm before I buy it. This is the model that's supported, correct? … https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/95-new-Meizu-PRO-5-64GB-4gbRAM-LTE-Unlocked-DualSIM-21Mcam-NFC-FastCharge-/272196027342?nav=SEARCH
 there is an extraneous bit of setup work for it, but yes, that device is usable with UT
 i hope you are in the UK or somehwere that matches the frequencies for the pro 5 too, or you're going to be very disappointed with not having LTE
 does UTports installer just flash IMGs to boot, system, etc?
 or it does something other than that
 I'm on verizon in the US
 @imparker, you definitely do not want a pro 5 if you want to use it for more than a wifi tablet, then
 unfortunately the nexus 5 won't work on verizon either though. :-/
 I'm not seeing on the page what bands it works on
 @imparker, i don't think it supports CDMA at all, and it definitely doesn't do US LTE
 (Photo, 734x194) https://irc.ubports.com/pLkXxV5w.png
 right. no CDMA at all
 My legacy Android-edition Meizu MX4 is semi-unlocked (TWRP is installed), so I wonder if I can just flash IMGs
 Fwd from notcake: does UTports installer just flash IMGs to boot, system, etc?
 Fwd from notcake: or it does something other than that
 UBports*
 @notcake please do not forward messages you just posted in the same chat group
 @dohbee, My internet is bad atm, so my client said that they did not send
 but allowed to forward 🤔
 you can't just flash IMGs no
 you need to use the sp flash tool to flash on the original OEM Ubuntu Edition image
 as documented in the install guide
 yeah, I know, but there is a way to load legacy UT by making system an .img (because /system partition sizes don't match on UT and Android editions) and placing it in /data, and then using modified boot to load from it
 Are there any cheap tablets that have been tested and runs with utouch?
 nexus 7 2013 wifi? bq m10?
 (Those are the only options)
 ah ok
 thx
[20:42] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> Almost in the end of last year there was a discussion about telegram notifications,
[20:42] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> That Canonical will shut their servers down
[20:42] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> And ubports will have its own
[20:42] <ubptgbot> <Nithin Padavu> Does ubports have one already?
 since the end of last year, yes
 push notifications for telegram still work just fine on latest versions of UT
[21:43] <ubptgbot> abdulmahsn was added by: abdulmahsn
 @Nithin Padavu, Wow you slept a long time
 OTA-3 switched all phones to the new push server
 This was around Dec 21st or so 2017