[00:22] <tomreyn> blackflow: i got no (16.04 -> 18.01) upgrade offer here, yet, even with -c
[00:22] <blackflow> you mean -d ?
[00:22] <tomreyn>   -c, --check-dist-upgrades
[00:22] <tomreyn>                         Check if a new Ubuntu release is available
[00:23] <blackflow> oh, yes.
[00:23] <tomreyn> -d would be all wrong
[00:23] <blackflow> hrm, well someone said earlier it's already available
[00:23] <tomreyn> an i meant 16.04 -> 18.04.1 of course
[00:23] <tomreyn> maybe it dpeends on your mirror servers
[00:24] <blackflow> I know bionic already has the upgrade since yesterday at least.
[00:25] <oerheks> here it is 26th, so that would be nice
[00:26] <oerheks> not yet published
[00:26] <oerheks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[00:27] <oerheks> # ubuntu-releaseparty :-D
[00:35] <blackflow> you mean #ubuntu-release-party here on Freenode?
[00:43] <oerheks> uhh, yes
[00:43] <oerheks> it is an "update" release-party
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/392/builds
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> seems like some good testing going on
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: happy with my cats? :p
[06:05] <ducasse> good morning
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> hey guiverc
[07:52] <guiverc_d> howdy lotuspsychje - sorry [i was] out with the birds :)
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> i love birds :p
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> dont have to be sorry mate, im used to the idle game
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> i know you there
[07:53] <guiverc_d> alas i do mean feathered [winged] birds :(
[10:52] <westpfelia> Has anyone ever used Modern Honey Network?
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:15] <blackflow> so... no one else gonna yell at me and stop me from suggesting this, saying Noooo, consolekit is normal on Xenial?   :)   am I correct that consolekit is out of place on Xenial?
[11:17] <JimBuntu> blackflow, while it's available in universe, it's not default installed on Desktop, unsure about server, but doubt it's default there either
[11:17] <BluesKaj> wonder if it's in the repos, it's not there on bionic
[11:18] <ducasse> it's not default on my xenial server, no
[11:18] <blackflow> it's in the repos for xenial and artful and yes, in universe.   so I guess removing console won't break their system (help in #ubuntu)... it's my guess that it's messing their user group in session, conflicting with logind.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu, blackflow, ducasse
[11:18] <blackflow> o/
[11:19] <blackflow> apt -s remove consolekit showed nothing else pulled out, so.... I guess that'll fix it.
[11:19] <ducasse> top o' the mornin' to ya, BluesKaj
[11:19] <JimBuntu> g'morning BluesKaj, ducasse, blackflow and the rest ( even if it's not morning where you are )
[11:20] <blackflow> it's alwyas morning somewhere ;)
[11:26] <BluesKaj> much needed rain here ..we have major forest fires in Northern Ontario
[11:33] <ducasse> forecast here says super-hot tomorrow, then heavy rain in the weekend. only had a couple of days with light rain this summer, so it's needed.
[11:36] <BluesKaj> we can smell fire smoke here with an east or south wind, been smokey for days now
[11:48] <BluesKaj> what does ctl+F4 do? someone over at #kubuntu used it to exit his game and now grub is in a loop and unable to login to the OS..looks like he's dual booting with windows
[11:49] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, in 16.04 I don't see ctrl+F4 doing anything by default
[11:50] <blackflow> ctrl?  iirc alt+F4 is the shortcut to close the window
[11:50] <blackflow> (on windows at least)
[11:50] <JimBuntu> ctrl+F4 will close a tab in Chrome much like ctrl+w will.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> ok, he didn't say whether he was running the game in windows or kubunru...I'll ask him
[11:51] <blackflow> ah good old days of trolling noobs in online games with "Press Alt+F4 for cheatcodes!"
[11:51] <BluesKaj> bah, he left
[11:51] <JimBuntu> Grub issues after closing a game sounds unrelated
[11:52] <JimBuntu> or login issues for that matter.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> yeah, makes sense
[11:52] <JimBuntu> Now... if they said that they just installed the game and also installed GPU software/mods/drivers... now that would make sense
[11:56] <BluesKaj> also we have a bot attacks from various IPs with that pedophile blog url claiming it's posted by a freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri'
[11:57] <BluesKaj> err bot attacks - plural
[11:58] <JimBuntu> I have seen this. Some information has been provided by others to freenode regarding the IPs/etc
[11:59] <BluesKaj> the IPs are all different
[12:00] <oerheks> morning :-)
[12:01] <BluesKaj> 'Morning oerheks
[12:01] <ducasse> \o oerheks
[12:02] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj ducasse
[12:02] <BluesKaj> some of the Ips are from places like China, Azerbaijan
[13:26] <hggdh> morning folks
[13:26] <BluesKaj> 'Morning hggdh
[14:10] <blackflow> oooh, new steam haz big picture mode now on linux!
[14:11] <tomreyn> it had that for years?
[14:12] <blackflow> tomreyn: on linux?
[14:12] <tomreyn> yes
[14:12] <leftyfb> pretty sure it's had that since 2010
[14:12] <blackflow> hrm..... why do I distinctly remember it saying it wasn't available for linux...
[14:12] <leftyfb> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-login-to-steam-big-picture-mode-in-ubuntu
[14:12] <leftyfb> article from 2012
[14:13] <blackflow> huh.
[14:13] <blackflow> anyway, yay. Now I can whip up a custom DE that's actually steam big picture mode.
[14:14] <blackflow> or more precisely, steam big pciture mode only login session.
[14:14] <leftyfb> https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=custom
[14:15] <leftyfb> there's already an installer of SteamOS
[14:15] <leftyfb> no need to install it on top of ubuntu and customize anything
[14:15] <blackflow> but I want that on my 'buntu?
[14:16] <blackflow> I don't want another OS I want a login session that's only steam. login -> steam -> exit -> gdm3 login
[14:16] <pragmaticenigma> want what?
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: I don't think that exists yet, you could create a local user account with the window manager it logs into setup to autolaunch a script that would launch steam, and when you exit steam would log out of the DE session
[14:17] <blackflow> pragmaticenigma: ability to log into steam big picture mode straight, and then log out back to gdm login prompt, straight
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: It's possible with a script that executes at login of the desktop session.
[14:17] <blackflow> pragmaticenigma: yeah I was looking into doing something liek that via openbox or something, but I think I can make it work without an wm
[14:18] <daftykins> surely after getting games working under Linux you're so tired you have no time for messing with the interface ;D
[14:18] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: That part I'm uncertain of, the wm is what exposes elements an application needs in order to write to the compsitor and X11
[14:19] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: concensous of the internet says it's not currently possible. many point here: https://github.com/thor27/steam-login/
[14:19] <blackflow> daftykins: what doy ou mean, all my games JustWork(tm). I only had some trouble understanding and getting vulkan under wine for DooM, there was a problem with audio for Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, and I can't get Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus   to run properly   all under wine.
[14:21] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: even applications like KODI/XBMC require some window manager running to launch into their full screen sessions.
[14:21] <blackflow> pragmaticenigma: well then a modified openbox or something it is. as long as I can get the wm stay out of the picture.
[14:21] <daftykins> :)
[14:21] <daftykins> that's rubbish, kodi has a standalone mode
[14:21] <pragmaticenigma> that's what I would recommend, find a low resource window manager, that you can have autolaunch a script
[14:22] <blackflow> daftykins: well I'm thinking steam would too, as the big picture mode is actually an exclusive opengl context.
[14:22] <blackflow> well, we'll see.
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> daftykins: Standalone mode for KODI enables the system shutdown and power management controls. It still uses a slimmed down wm underneath
[14:23] <blackflow> I once managd to run firefox directly under xorg and that worked. the menu didn't and I'm guessing because they required wm or higher level somethings
[14:23] <daftykins> that's splitting hairs
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: Window managers are what offer hooks for window decorations (Min/max/close) and menu options. Not all applications use them, and some define their own
[14:25] <blackflow> I know and that's the thing. steam big picture mode is a completely separtae fullscreen opengl context.
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> blackflow: on the surface it may appear that way... underneath, it told the window manager "Please don't decorate me, and just display me taking the entire window"
[14:26] <blackflow> I'll be sure to report here my findings :)
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> Did #ubuntu finally start requiring registration?
[14:28] <blackflow> pragmaticenigma: I guess it's a temporary measure due to those #freenodegate botrolls
[14:29] <pragmaticenigma> yay! they were getting vicious yesterday
[14:29] <blackflow> #ubuntu-server is still infested with them
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> I hit limbo since hexchat tried to join the room before it had identified
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[14:38] <blackflow> o/
[14:38] <leftyfb> oerheks: I'll keep -R so I can report them
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> hey blackflow leftyfb tomreyn oerheks
[14:39] <tomreyn> hello lotuspsychje
[14:39] <nicomachus> what's #freenodegate
[14:39] <oerheks> leftyfb, me too, ofcourse
[14:39] <oerheks> nicomachus, lonely people channel?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: those spammers setup a fishy wordpress blog
[14:40] <tomreyn> how / where do you report?
[14:40] <nicomachus> oh.
[14:40] <nicomachus> still no 18.04.1. :/
[14:40] <leftyfb> #freenode
[14:40] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I just post in #freenode. The ops still see it and appreciate it
[14:40] <oerheks> nicomachus, i am already on 18.04.1 ...
[14:40] <daftykins> it's really only a number getting bumped on a given day :)
[14:41] <nicomachus> I'm still on xenial. waiting for the upgrade path.
[14:41] <tomreyn> i never know what they appreciate and what they dont
[14:41] <tomreyn> so i wont join
[14:41] <tomreyn> thanks for explaining
[14:41] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I agree, but for this case, I think they're doing an ok job
[14:42] <tomreyn> yes, it's a lot of work and they handle it fine
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> ive reported some nmap scan results on those spammers ip to freenode staff, and they were glad
[14:42] <tomreyn> got the same issue on another network
[14:42] <tomreyn> this attack is huge, the botnet is huge
[14:42] <blackflow> someone has an entire axe factory to grind with those two staffers it seems.
[14:42] <tomreyn> new clients keep coming, with never before seen ips
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> ircd's is always war :p
[14:48] <BluesKaj> how to stop these bot pms?
[14:48] <leftyfb>  /umode +R
[14:49] <blackflow> oh they're PM-ing now?
[14:49] <oerheks> Set /umode +R if you're getting tons of nonsensical PMs
[14:49] <leftyfb> yep
[14:49] <blackflow> holy cow.
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> and just at .1 day lol
[14:49] <oerheks> .. i put a spell on them, oke?
[14:50] <blackflow> banish them to hell and then we'll take over! mwahahaha!
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:51] <BluesKaj> ok works now , I was marked away and it wasn't working :-)
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/392/builds
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> 3 bugs on kubuntu amd64
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> server iso's seems not ready
[15:08] <JimBuntu> wow, just realized I have 11 PMs related to the spammers
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> loll
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> JimBuntu: did you think it were your freinds first?
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> i seem to have 0 friends :(
[15:09] <nicomachus> ayy I got my first PM.
[15:09] <JimBuntu> TBH, I wasn't even paying attention to the DMs. I only DM with a few people and I didn't recognize the names.
[15:10] <blackflow> perhaps the used irc server software could benefit from some input message filtering and shadowbanning.
[15:11] <hggdh> you might want to consider setting yourselves +R
[15:12] <hggdh> they now are going to a different route: join a channel, get the channel user's list, distribute it, and spam
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> ah
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: on whole freenode?
[15:13] <hggdh> lotuspsychje: I do not know -- I am not staff, and #f is currently moderated
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:13] <nicomachus> hggdh: yea I set +R after the first one. I thought I already had it before that but I guess I removed it after the last round of PM spam
[15:13] <hggdh> but I know this is going on on different IRC networks
[15:14] <hggdh> (my default it +R, set on connection to the network)
[15:16] <hggdh> lotuspsychje: but I have seen the spam (and been told) that it is going on in a lot of channels
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:18] <hggdh> there are basically two options, channel-wise: /mode <channel> +q $~a; or mode <channel> +r
[15:18] <hggdh> so, if any of you moderates a channel, you might want to consider that
[15:19] <hggdh> the first one allows unregistered users to join, but they a re quieted; the second blocks unregistered users from joining
[15:19] <blackflow> I'd add,   use +g if they start using registered accounts.
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> okay tnx hggdh
[15:19] <hggdh> so... the first one allows harversting of nick
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks: what does that /umode +R command do?
[15:20] <hggdh> blackflow: yes indeed. But +g also allows for staff kills
[15:20] <blackflow> hggdh: sorry, for what?
[15:20] <hggdh> a freenode staff can kill the registration
[15:20] <hggdh> ugh!
[15:20] <hggdh> the other way
[15:21] <hggdh> I receive spam from a registered account, I can go to #f and show it to staff
[15:21] <blackflow> I meant usermode +g  aka   no PM unless you explicitly /accept or PM first, that other nick
[15:22] <hggdh> blackflow: yes, that will work. I, though assume that if you went thru the trouble of registering, you are not really willing to lose the registration due to spamming others
[15:22] <hggdh> so I go -g
[15:23] <blackflow> registration is automatic, can be even scripted. these attackers seem to have huge motivation for wathever reason to do what they're doing
[15:24] <hggdh> well, yeah. Still waking up, I guess. For whatever weird, and probably freudian, reason, I was thinking the whole time about cloaks, and writing about registration. Sorry
[15:30]  * lotuspsychje_ slides a cold icecoffee to hggdh 
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> are the sites they are sending have anything even worth looking at? (asking for a friend)
[15:32] <JimBuntu> pragmaticenigma, nope
[15:34] <hggdh> pragmaticenigma: pretty much what is currently called "fake news", to say, assertions with no provenance. But they state it is "a fact", so I saw many posting about it and stating it was a fact, and etc
[15:35] <hggdh> (may $deity forbid their poor dumb souls)
[15:35] <JimBuntu> export deity="Tux"
[15:35] <hggdh> better saying assertions with no, or dubious, provenance
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> wonder what the campaign is all about then... why the spread of this is going on
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> ircd's are always war pragmaticenigma
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> always someone in a fight with someone else
[15:46] <hggdh> also, see https://freenode.net/news/spambot-attack
[15:46] <JimBuntu> lotuspsychje, let's fight!
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> lol JimBuntu
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> JimBuntu: where's my wonga's for the rabbits i catched for you
[15:48]  * JimBuntu sends lotuspsychje loads of wongas
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> tnx for the link hggdh
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> usefull rss on there
[15:50] <blackflow> weird thing about these domains is that one of them (bryan....) has been reg'd back in 2016.
[15:54] <JimBuntu> it's an old fight
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> seems like it JimBuntu
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> so if I enabled user mode +g ... how do I accept a message from someoen?
[16:30] <pragmaticenigma> nm
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> https://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-18-04-1-lts-bionic-beaver-officially-released-download-now-522124.shtml
[17:39] <oerheks> and published http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> tnx oerheks
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> not yet on ubuntu.com
[17:40] <oerheks> i spammed too
[17:40] <oerheks> lolz
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> progressive spam :p
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/18.04.1
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> full changes list
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> Mmmm... spam
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> !isitout
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> hehe
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> jesus what a bug list lol
[17:48] <pragmaticenigma> I think the one everyone is interested in is the login loop fix and black screen issues
[17:54] <tsimonq2> Hey lotuspsychje, I have a question. How the heck do I get magnet links? :P
[17:54] <tsimonq2> I'm updating Lubuntu.me and my artwork guy usually does this, so I don't know how he gets them... :P
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: with a torrent client
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> transmission does it
[17:57] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: Can I get the magnets for Lubuntu 18.04.1 i386 and amd64 desktop images?
[17:57] <tsimonq2> I haven't used a torrent client in a year, easily. :P
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: with 'get' you mean download right?
[17:57] <oerheks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%3D%DF_c3IJO%23%CC%CB%FB%D4%16c%82M%5B%40%97
[17:57] <oerheks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%BE%7Bb%C4%C6R%0EA%BF%CC%81%D9%16%AD%E4%90%ED%06%3DC
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> or create a magnet link?
[17:58] <tsimonq2> I mean, a link like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/release/lubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:58] <tsimonq2> grr
[17:58] <tsimonq2> I mean
[17:58] <tsimonq2> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5c8dae8e82fbd6d9a6fca7ed7680a5c281404555&dn=lubuntu-18.04-desktop-i386.iso
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: transmission picks up magnet links when click
[17:59] <tsimonq2> ah
[17:59]  * tsimonq2 tries
[18:00] <oerheks> oh, mine didn't work ?
[18:00] <tsimonq2> Ah, magnet:?xt=urn:btih:be7b62c4c6520e41bfcc81d916ade490ed063d43&dn=lubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> qbittorrent did it also
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> picked up your link, just tested
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: https://imgur.com/a/FeMpH7o
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> 'open torrent link'
[18:04] <tsimonq2> ack
[18:04] <tsimonq2> Thanks
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> no sweat tsimonq2
[18:05] <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/downloads/
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> nice work mate!
[18:05] <tsimonq2> Thanks :)
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> we will spread the word its up tsimonq2
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: you gonna seed again?
[18:07] <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/bionic-1-released/
[18:07] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: Please use that link for Lubuntu :)
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> allrighty, nice blog
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: by the way, got some customers on bionic lubuntu that feel real good about it
[18:09] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: awesome :)
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !18.04.1
[18:12] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: What kind of customers, by the way?
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: im running an ubuntu webshop in belgium, with mostly xenial users but also early bionic with samsung 850 pro ssd's only
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: some older machines needed lubuntu xenial & bionic
[18:13] <oerheks> i showed my windows-music-hardware-freak-neighbour some software in our repos, feel like a priest healing a poor soul
[18:13] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: Nice :)
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: till now i found xenial lubuntu best so far, now bionic is equal
[18:14] <tsimonq2> Ah.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: so great work :p
[18:15] <tsimonq2> Thanks :)
[18:15] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: Right now it's just me on Lubuntu
[18:16] <tsimonq2> We have some contributors that come in and out, and we've seen a lot of people translating, but otherwise the dev work has been me...
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: are you looking for contributers?
[18:17] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: Another developer who knows packaging and C++ development would be nice.
[18:17] <tsimonq2> Of course, someone who can pick up knowledge easily and is willing to pour a lot of time into learning would be good too.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> not an easy task finding :p
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: want me to ask the UWN guys to add it you seek new devs?
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: or make a blog first on it?
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> something we can spread
[18:19] <tsimonq2> I'll put it in our next weekly newsletter
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:26] <oerheks> good to know, i run into lubuntu fans daily
[18:26] <tsimonq2> \o/
[18:26] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje, oerheks: When 18.04.1 comes out, it would be cool to get feedback from people who use it. :)
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: ill remember that
[18:27] <tsimonq2> Also, in all reality, I have no idea whatsoever how many people use Lubuntu or who...
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: cant that new stats help you on that?
[18:27] <tsimonq2> No, we didn't get it integrated in time.
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> ah
[18:28] <oerheks> now lubuntu is the latest supplier of 32 bit images...
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> yeah comes in real handy
[18:28] <tsimonq2> So, I just work under the assumption that 100 people use it. That's it, just 100. :P
[18:28] <tomreyn> hmm the amd64 alternative (classic) server iso doesnt seem to have any peers, yet.
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> no way mate
[18:28] <tsimonq2> I have to assume something, right? :)
[18:29] <tsimonq2> Because like I said, I have no actual idea.
[18:29] <tsimonq2> I don't know if it's 100,000 or if nobody actually uses it for anything anymore.
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: how about download hits can those make a figure?
[18:29] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: I don't have download hits.
[18:30] <tsimonq2> Those aren't public.
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> ah
[18:30] <tsimonq2> I mean, I could probably request them if I asked, but...
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> well its hard to guess then, but in belgium we have a lot of old boxes
[18:31] <tsimonq2> The only actual thing I have is the people who viewed the release announcement.
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> there must be something to trace no?
[18:31] <tsimonq2> 80,000 viewed the 18.04 announcement, but that doesn't guarantee downloads, especially with Lubuntu.net existing and f***ing everything up :(((((
[18:31] <tsimonq2> Oh well.
[18:32] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: Nope.
[18:32] <tsimonq2> Nothing.
[18:32] <tsimonq2> I plan on fixing this in 18.10 though.
[18:32] <tsimonq2> We're (well, I'm) working on a welcome center that uses this by default.
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: im sure there still tons of lubuntu users worldwide
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> ive seen boxes in the wild in belgium with lubuntu on
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> in a share community
[18:38] <tsimonq2> The thing is, that's not a quantitative number. :P
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: we will know when we can measure :p
[18:39] <tsimonq2> Yup.
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: is this important to you to know?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> i mean you consider quit project if it wasnt popular?
[18:45] <tsimonq2> lotuspsychje: I want to see how much stress I should be having :P
[18:45] <tsimonq2> I wouldn't quit.
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> ah lol
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> tsimonq2: your curious about how .1 rolls out in the wild thats it?
[18:47] <oerheks> my grandma always says: if she says you are my only love, leave her
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:47] <tsimonq2> hehe
[18:48] <oerheks> i ask my chihuahua almost every day, to find a new home, but he would not leave.
[18:48] <oerheks> i would go with him :-D
[18:55] <oerheks> i would like to find the last alinea/part at the end 'enterprise ready installation guides helping hands'  on top of the page https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> would be nice oerheks
[19:41] <oerheks> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[19:42] <oerheks> yay good work teams
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> nice
[19:45] <Bashing-om> Yup. looks real nice :)
[19:47] <oerheks> .. no no shut up and be beautiful
[19:48] <Bashing-om> simple is elegant :)
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> less is more
[20:01] <lovepopsickle> does the gui updater come out today or not?
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> lovepopsickle: this channel is for discussions
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> lovepopsickle: support in #ubuntu
[20:01] <lovepopsickle> i am having a discussion right now
[20:21] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: .5 is out already, this machine is running it
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> oh
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> schedule says 15 aug?
[20:26] <oerheks> so that aws kernel is oke
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[20:26] <oerheks> else he needs an aws image
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> .5 is 2nd aug
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: he's playing with some different docker images, was his original issue
[20:27] <ducasse> i dunno, but lsb_release reports 16.04.5 here
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> Hello! I was running kubernetes, which requires docker <= 1.13, and an apt upgrade accidentally bumped it to 1.17. Is there a way to downgrade back?
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> must been more early release ducasse tnx
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> anyway its nap time here
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> ttyl guys