[00:17] <blackflow> Nizumzen: you should be able to upgrade already.
[00:17] <Nizumzen> awesome thanks - been waiting for this so I can upgrade my 16.04 servers
[00:19] <blackflow> Nizumzen: test it thoroughly, there are some significant changes.
[00:20] <Nizumzen> hmm I guess I could spin up a clone VPS to test
[00:21] <blackflow> why guess, that should be, like, the first thing you do. unless those servers aren't really important? ;)
[00:21] <Nizumzen> normally I just take a full system backup - do the upgrade and roll back if there any problems
[00:22] <Nizumzen> an hour or so downtime is acceptable
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[12:40] <tinwood> zul, yup, that looks great.  doing it now.
[12:41] <zul> thanks
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[19:02] <pztrick> was discussing `do-release-upgrade` for 18.04.1 LTS in #ubuntu channel, evidently not working as yet because there is no record for the LTS release at this URL: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[19:03] <sarnold> aye, that'll happen probably after 18.04.1 is released
[19:03] <sarnold> I can't promise when
[19:05] <pztrick> OK! I saw ISOs were available for .1 release so was eager to upgrade a running server
[20:34] <arooni> so 22 packages can be updated. .. i see that on my server;  i think i set up security updates but is there a reason i wouldnt want normal updates auto installed
[20:34] <arooni> 16.04
[20:35] <nacc> arooni: depends on how much you trust the ubuntu devlopers
[20:48] <Ussat> I always update my servers, not just security, but I also have test systems I do first
[20:48] <arooni> thats how i should be doing it
[20:49] <Ussat> I actually have a script I use to update my systems, that covers everuthing
[20:49] <arooni> what up with this : some packages held back
[20:49] <Ussat> I have scheduled downtimes, week1, test, 2 weeks later prod
[20:51] <nacc> arooni: you need to use a dist-upgrade/full-upgrade; some packages need to be removed presumably for the upgrade to proceed.
[20:52] <arooni> i always thought doing that upgraded me to next version of ubunt
[20:52] <arooni> u
[20:52] <Ussat> this is my upgrade script for 16.06
[20:53] <Ussat> sudo apt install -y byobu
[20:53] <Ussat> sudo purge-old-kernels -y --keep 2
[20:53] <Ussat> sudo apt-get -y autoremove --purge
[20:53] <Ussat> sudo apt-get update
[20:53] <Ussat> sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:53] <arooni> thats useful
[20:53] <whislock> arooni: man apt explains what full-upgrade does.
[20:53] <arooni> i need to make a git repo for scripts like that
[20:54] <Ussat> when I migrate my 16.04's to 18.04, it will chamge
[20:55] <nacc> arooni: it never has, tbh