[05:36] <Babloyi> so the new version of xubuntu is not out yet? Couple of hours?
[05:36] <Babloyi> I want to finally upgrade from 16.04 :D
[05:38] <well_laid_lawn> Babloyi:  18.04 has been out since April - next release is in October
[05:38] <Unit193> I believe he's talking about the first point release, when it is offered to the last LTS.
[05:38] <Babloyi> can't upgrade directly to 18.04 from 16.04
[05:38] <Babloyi> yeah
[06:36] <pmjdebruijn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/+bug/1778811
[06:36] <pmjdebruijn> yay
[06:36] <pmjdebruijn> and bit me soo hard
[06:36] <pmjdebruijn> that*
[10:10] <oldtommy> hello! Question: how can I use several flavours (desktops) of ubuntu on the same standard-installation of ubuntu? Jus using apt-get install xfce (e.g.) ... ? Or is there more work todo if I want tu use xubuntu and standard-ubuntu on the same machine?
[10:11] <oldtommy> thanks!!
[10:18] <oldtommy> Maybe some additional info: i have ubuntu 18.04 lts, and would like to add kde desktop and xfce desktop. as similar as possible to the installations of xubuntu and kubuntu. THANK YOU!!
[14:39] <blingrang> Hi, I'm facing a problem where if I lock my screen and then unlock afterwards, windows and icons do not display any text. I'm on Xubuntu 16.04 and this problem is completely random.
[14:40] <blingrang> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1019962/menu-texts-dissapear-and-desktop-does-not-show-icons This question is the closest I've found on the net describing this behaviour, but it doesn't have an answer so here I am.
[14:42] <blingrang> The text disappears just like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/7mlPa.png
[14:42] <blingrang> Also note, it started occurring once I moved to 16.04 from 14.04.
[14:44] <Spass> that's really weird, just like you've lost permissions to read "/usr/share/themes/..." for example
[14:49] <blingrang> It's not that the text is completely gone, its just missing most of the characters.
[14:50] <blingrang> I think this issue describes it really well https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/5607#issuecomment-244621775.
[14:58] <Spass> blingrang, did you try some of the solutions proposed in those GitHub issue pages?
[14:59] <Spass> what's you kernel version? "uname -r"
[15:01] <Spass> hmm, some users say that upgrading kernel worked for them, and some users say the issue still persists
[15:01] <Spass> but it's worth trying I guess
[15:01] <blingrang> Spass, this is what I have `4.4.0-121-generic`
[15:02] <blingrang> So I don't think I can upgrade anymore.
[15:03] <Spass> never kernel may help here, but that's your decision to make if you want to try it or not - "sudo apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04"
[15:03] <Spass> HWE for 16.04 is currently 4.15.0.29.51
[15:04] <Spass> btw, do you consider upgrading to 18.04 in the near future?
[15:04] <Spass> *newer
[15:04] <blingrang> Yeah
[15:05] <blingrang> but I'm waiting on upgrading to 18.04 a little while since this is my work laptop
[15:05] <blingrang> as for the kernel, I guess if the issue pops up again, I'll give it a go.
[15:06] <blingrang> Spass, Thanks for the help anyways.
[15:06] <Spass> yeah, in my opinion kernel 4.15 may help and shouldn't cause any problems on 16.04
[15:07] <Spass> no problem
[16:29] <Bucket-o-Monkeys> hi
[16:41] <Spass> hello Bucket-o-Monkeys
[17:00] <BarnabasDK> hi there
[17:29] <xubuntu07d> hello
[17:31] <xubuntu07d> i need some help
[18:46] <NerdTheThird_> i hear ubuntu is on 18.04.1, when is xubuntu gonna be on 18.04.1? also, what's the safest way to dist upgrade?
[18:47] <vivus> NerdTheThird_: backup backup backup, then backup again, then do dist upgrade
[18:47] <NerdTheThird> everything is on another drive, no worries, and thanks! :D
[18:48] <vivus> NerdTheThird: there should be a guide to doing a dist upgrade on Ubuntus website. I'd go with that first
[18:48] <NerdTheThird> sounds good
[18:49] <NerdTheThird> i wonder what will be the changes to 18.04.1
[18:50] <Spass> NerdTheThird, comparing to 16.04 or to 18.04?
[18:50] <NerdTheThird> to 18.04
[18:51] <genii> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/18.04.1
[18:51]  * genii wanders back to the coffepot
[18:53] <Spass> genii, nice link, thanks, more bug fixes than I supposed
[18:53] <NerdTheThird> does this apply to all flavours? i was on Arch for a while so i'm confused by this system now ;p
[18:54] <NerdTheThird> this is mostly for gnome as far as i can see
[18:54] <genii> NerdTheThird: All of it except the desktop-specific section
[18:54] <NerdTheThird> ah, okay okay. tnx
[19:11] <Babloyi> wasn't there supposed to be a new release today?
[19:12] <flocculant> 18.04.1 is due out today (today = 26th July, so there is still some time to go until that day is finished globally)
[19:12] <NerdTheThird> yeah true, USA is behind Europe
[19:19] <Babloyi> bah
[19:19] <Babloyi> filthy american timings
[19:28] <flocculant> Babloyi: it's released now
[19:28] <Babloyi> that was fast :O
[19:28] <Babloyi> where does it say this?
[19:29] <flocculant> umm about 3 lines up :)
[19:29] <flocculant> also I just read the release mail
[19:29] <Babloyi> oh, I don't get a release mail
[19:29] <Babloyi> and I don't see it anywhere on the site yet
[19:29] <flocculant> and then trotted over to https://xubuntu.org/download and updated the torrent links to the .1 release
[19:29] <flocculant> Babloyi: which site?
[19:30] <Babloyi> https://xubuntu.org?
[19:30] <flocculant> if you mean xubuntu.org - that's because no-one other than me is around and I'm talking to you :D
[19:30] <Babloyi> :O
[19:30] <Babloyi> well, if I run the updater, will it pick it up, then?
[19:31] <flocculant> not sure - it might
[19:31] <Babloyi> :O
[19:31] <Babloyi> guess I'll wait till tomorrow
[19:31] <pleia2> depends on the mirror you're pointed at, they get updated at different intervals (depends on who is running it)
[19:31] <Babloyi> I'm still on 16.04 LTS, been waiting since April
[19:31] <flocculant> Babloyi: you might need to wait a while
[19:31] <Babloyi> hahahaha
[19:31] <Babloyi> tomorrow, then
[19:31] <Babloyi> TOMORROW, OR ELSE
[19:32] <pleia2> Babloyi: we're all volunteers here, a little patience would be apprciated :)
[19:32]  * Babloyi sharpens his knife
[19:35] <Babloyi> hey, I'd offer to help, but I have no idea how
[19:38] <flocculant> Babloyi: well - https://xubuntu.org/contribute/ plenty of stuff there depending on your skill lever
[19:38] <flocculant> s/lever/level
[19:38] <flocculant> I have skill level 'Can Break Anything' so I do testing :p
[19:39] <Babloyi> yeah, that seems all I'd be capable for
[19:39] <Babloyi> I mean, I have programming knowledge, but I've never contributed to a big project before
[19:40] <flocculant> then join in - we had half a dozen testers for this point release - so one more increases the % by a good old lump ;)
[19:41] <Babloyi> tomorrow, perhaps
[19:42] <flocculant> Babloyi: next week we will be testing the last 16.04 point release - add yourself to the xubuntu dev mailing list and you'll see when
[19:43] <Babloyi> ok
[19:43] <flocculant> all the testing pages have been recently updated by a couple of our users
[21:52] <xubuntu96w> Hi
[21:53] <Spass> hello xubuntu96w
[21:59] <xubuntu95w> I installed Xubuntu today in a laptop that i dont use often. And now i cannot conect to wifi.
[22:00] <xubuntu95w> Sorry if my english is not good.
[22:01] <xubuntu95w> I try to look for VPN connections but nothing shows up
[22:01] <xubuntu95w> Hello btw
[22:03] <well_laid_lawn> !wifi
[22:09] <xubuntu95w> I installed Xubuntu on this laptop previously and the wireless connection worked perfectly. So i tried to reinstall Xubuntu and it says "flip_done timed out".
[22:10] <xubuntu95w> And nothing happens
[22:10] <well_laid_lawn> where does it say that ?
[22:12] <xubuntu95w> After i press "Install Xubuntu" in the UNetbootin window
[22:20] <well_laid_lawn> I know nothing about that
[22:20] <well_laid_lawn> !install
[22:20] <xubuntu95w> Ok thanks
[22:24] <xubuntu14w> I just installed Xubuntu and i cannot find any VPN wireless connection
[22:24] <xubuntu14w> enp9s0    no wireless extensions.  lo        no wireless extensions.
[22:26] <well_laid_lawn> wireless and vpn are two different things
[22:26] <well_laid_lawn> are you sure you have a wifi device ?
[22:27] <xubuntu14w> Yes
[22:27] <well_laid_lawn> the following link has good advice
[22:27] <well_laid_lawn> !wifi