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berglhanyone noticed a delay with "bringing up network interfaces" in 18.04 after upgrading a 17.10 install?01:27
berglhi've been noticing it take around ~5 mintues to get past this boot initialisation process01:30
sarnoldwhich kernel are you on?01:31
sarnoldI wonder if you hit the issue fixed in this USN https://usn.ubuntu.com/3718-1/01:32
berglh4.15.0-29-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP01:44
berglhlooks like i'm up to date01:45
berglhso.. i had always configured my interfaces with /etc/network/interfaces01:45
berglhit's looking like this has changed to netplan ?01:46
berglhi think i'm fighting a few problems; my system has been entering a weird state overnight01:46
berglhhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hq7yjqgxt5/01:48
berglhreally weird behaivour; not sure why it's doing this shutdown/reboot01:48
berglhno errors in syslog before hand01:48
berglhi'm suspecting a potential problem with the PSU or simialr01:49
berglhhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/scfKrQTg33/ That's the networking.service failure01:55
berglhone the machine boots; netowrk is working fine01:56
sarnoldberglh: could you file a bug against netplan.io for that? I haven't got a clue :(02:39
havenstanceberglh: have you noticed it shutting down/rebooting at the same time every night?03:17
havenstanceor similar times maybe?03:17
havenstancecuz you might be on the right track, you could be having a PSU issue, however it seems if that were the case, it would do irregular things at various times not really able to be predicted.03:20
berglhhavenstance: no, it's different03:20
berglhbut it's in the morning03:21
berglhi.e. as the temperature is cooling03:21
havenstancethen runs fine the rest of the day?03:21
berglhyes03:21
havenstancenow that's odd03:21
havenstanceeven for a PSU going out but it's not farfetched, I've seen them make systems do some really strange things03:21
havenstancebut this started immediately after the update?03:21
berglhi'm going to take the PSU out over the weekend and check teh caps03:21
havenstancethe thing to look at is was it doing it before the update or not03:22
berglhi can't mention on the raising the interface bug03:22
berglhbecause it's a headless server03:22
berglhi only attached the display when i noticed it wasn't up03:22
berglhit's doing dhcp and dns for my network03:23
berglhso it's not great when it itsn't working03:23
havenstancehm, so you don't really know for sure if it was happening before you updated to 18.04?03:23
berglhall i know is that before hand it rebooted a lot faster03:23
berglhi.e. i'd applyg a new kernel and restart03:23
berglhthen it'd be back up quite quickly03:24
berglhlately i've noticed it's seeming to take longer03:24
berglhi run smartd and scan my drives for errors etc03:24
berglhget emails if i'm having storage issues03:24
havenstancetbh, I might try a clean install as annoying as that may be, I know people have ran into issues in the past updating from a .10 to a .04 lts release.03:25
havenstancebefore I did that though I would check the PSU as your original plan was03:27
havenstancenot sure what else to really have you try that others haven't already tbh03:28
berglhhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y6FyWSjWx8/03:30
berglhso that's the interesting thing03:31
berglhyou'll see it's shutting down services before the kernel starts on the reboot03:31
wron a ubuntu server if i set up some sites, is it possible seeing them via browser?03:33
sarnoldwr: yes, a huge portion of the internet works exactly that way :)03:43
wrsarnold, what about core servers?03:44
wrsarnold, on a ubuntu server if i set up some sites, is it possible seeing them via browser on a core server?03:45
sarnoldwr: do you mean one of these things? https://www.ubuntu.com/core03:46
sarnoldwr: if so, I'd expect "yes", but you'd either have to find or create a *snap* to do the hosting03:46
sarnoldah here we are, the snap store https://snapcraft.io/store03:47
wrsarnold, in this case http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.4/ubuntu-16.04.4-server-amd64.iso after install dont have a browser or GUI, so i need a GUI to see sites? right?03:47
sarnoldwr: I use w3m all the time, no gui required.. but .. most people would indeed rather use a gui web browser03:48
wrsarnold, i mean if this is the only way or there are some alternatives03:48
sarnoldwr: what exactly are you trying to do?03:49
wrsarnold, i had a work here to do but it says to use a ubuntu server 16.4.4 but my teacher told to open sites and some use ssl etc03:50
sarnoldwr: aha, I think I understand better03:50
sarnoldwr: you can certainly start from the ubuntu-server iso and add packages with apt-get install to get to a functioning desktop computer03:51
sarnoldbut you might be better served to start with one of the desktop images instead, since they'll have selected a bunch of packages useful on desktops03:51
wrsarnold, im in doubt if he did any mistake, because at start we used a regular ubuntu then this work asks for a server03:51
sarnoldwr: you can always install the server software on desktop, that works great. the only slight oddity is that "servers" don't normally use network-manager, but that's the most convenient way to use desktops and laptops..03:52
wrsarnold, yes i know, but only way is to add a GUI right?03:52
sarnoldsure, if you want; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop     would get you most of the way there03:53
wrsarnold, what i mean is that nobody tests sites on a ubuntu server core via browser i guess03:53
sarnoldwr: I don't know about "nobody"03:54
sarnoldbut it's surely more common to have two computers or a computer and a VM instance somewhere03:54
sarnoldwr: it's time for me to bail.. I hope you have fun :)03:56
wrsarnold, basically i have apache2 php libapache2-mod-php03:56
wrsarnold, normally how do you test installed sites on this iso?03:56
sarnoldlike normal..03:57
sarnoldfirefox https://whatever/03:57
sarnoldw3m https://whatever/03:57
wrsarnold, but gotta have a GUI right?03:57
sarnoldwr: no03:57
sarnoldw3m doesn't require a gui03:57
sarnoldtry it, w3m https://www.google.com03:58
wrsarnold, from shell i just firefox &03:58
wrsarnold, w3m i know it works, and links etc03:58
sarnoldthere ya go :D no gui required03:58
wrbut if it is firefox03:58
wrsarnold, on ff gotta have GUI?03:59
Harishello all08:17
Harisguys, is there a way to make ruid2 work with apache on 14.x ?08:17
HarisDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"08:17
sixsixI'm trying to install 18.04 on a bios (non-uefi) system. It installs just fine, creates a 1mb bios_boot partition, and the rest of the FS. The problem is, the disk will not boot - the system insists the disk is not bootable08:38
sixsixeven if I boot from the installed and tell it to 'boot first disk' it won't boot08:38
sixsixs/installed/installer08:39
sdezielsixsix: are you able to use the live environment to inspect the not bootable drive?08:47
sdezielsixsix: if yes, I'd be curious to see the output of "fdisk -l /dev/sda" (assuming the drive is sda)08:48
sixsixI can use the installer's live environment, it addresses disks by /dev/disk/by-<whatever>/ etc - I don't have a console I can easily copy/paste on it but effectively it creates 2 partitions08:54
sixsixthe first is 1mb and type is Bios boot08:55
sixsixthe 2nd is the remaining disk and is type Linux Filesystem08:55
sixsixactually, I can copy/paste08:58
blackflowsixsix: you can pipe output of commands to termbin.com if you have network tehre.    eg, fdisk -l /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999   then paste here the URL you get08:58
blackflowso first question is, are you 100% sure that's a BIOS (legacy) boot and not EFI?08:59
sixsix/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3500418AS_5VM7J0XC-part1 2048 4095 2048 1M BIOS boot08:59
sixsix/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3500418AS_5VM7J0XC-part2 4096 976771071 976766976 465.8G Linux filesystem08:59
sixsixquite certain - checking the dmesg on the usb installer has no mention of efi08:59
sixsixit's an intel 965 chipset08:59
blackflowand you're sure the correct drive is selected for boot?09:00
sixsixit's the only drive in the system09:00
blackflowcan you confirm the partitioning is GPT?09:01
sixsixparted says it is09:05
sixsixoh and fdisk which says Disklabel type: gpt09:05
blackflowsixsix: and this was installed by ubuntu installer?09:06
sixsixyes, default 'use entire disk' option on the new 18.04 server installer09:07
Olivier[m]The output of `sudo parted /dev/sda print` may help here.09:19
blackflowsixsix: do you know how to chroot into installed root? Wanted to suggest you try re-run   grub-install /dev/sda      -- assuming it's /dev/sda   , from the chroot of installed root.09:19
sixsixI can chroot in to the 2nd partition, but /dev isn't mounted when I do as that's not what booted09:22
sixsixparted's output is: https://gist.github.com/iamsix/178a4c584610c7bbb82a4f492d3fea1709:24
Olivier[m]sixsix: You need to rbind that mount `sudo mount -rbind /dev/ /<path-to-chroot>/dev`.09:24
Olivier[m]Same for `/sys`09:24
blackflowsixsix: so you don't know how to chroot. :)   you have to bind mount some dirs from the "host" side.    assuming you've mounted the installed root to /mnt    =>    mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc ; mount -R /dev /mnt/dev ; mount -R /sys /mnt/sys09:24
blackflowthen you can     chroot /mnt09:25
sixsixok, grub install seems to have worked09:26
sixsixlet's see if it will boot that though...09:27
sixsixnpoe, still no bootable device found :/09:28
blackflowsixsix: how old is that machine?09:29
sixsixboard is from around 2008 as far as I can find09:30
blackflowWell, yeah. I'm thinking that machine is so old, it has no idea how to boot from GPT09:30
sixsixI figured as much too.. I'm not sure why the installer would have installed it with gpt though09:32
sixsixand the default usb installer boots perfectly (just dd the iso to a usb key) but it looks like that uses some kind of active MBR partition09:32
blackflowsixsix: perhaps you can pre-partition the disk from the live env using MBR based table, and then the installer might be able to re-use thos partitions. or you can debootstrap the installation for fully manual installation.    I don't see in the new subiquity menus where to select GPT vs MBR, so I don't know what else to suggest.09:35
YoyoyooooHi, I know this channel isn't about LTSP, however I am trying to set up LTSP on Ubuntu Server 18.04, however I am struggling to find support anywhere, your "more reliable" wiki is no longer maintained and just points me to the LTSP wiki for instructions on how to install LTSP onto Ubuntu 18.04, however, despite LTSP claiming their guide is more stable, I've found it more troublesome than it's worth, especially considering I'10:01
Yoyoyoooo"Connection Refused" from nbd-client on the thin clients and then dropped to a BusyBox shell. I really don't know what to do, and don't know how to explain what I've tried as I am struggling to understand the architecture.10:02
sdezielYoyoyoooo: I don't know nbd-client much but if you get a connection refused message it could indicate that there is no server listening at the destination10:10
HarisI think I have mor ruid2 for apache working on another 14.x install. Why is it not working her e?10:12
sdezielYoyoyoooo: on the server end, could you try running "sudo ss -nltp" and pastebin the output?10:13
HarisDo the desktop and server version(s) have different maintainer(s) for mod ruid2 for apache2 ?10:13
sdezielHaris: I'd say no10:14
Harismod ruid2 is not working on one 14.x install10:19
blackflowHaris: define "not working"?10:21
Hariswhen code writes file to disk, it doesn't get ownership of the u/g its process should be running as10:22
blackflowHaris: are you sure the config is correct? Maybe that question is better suited to #apache. Have you consulted the documentation? https://github.com/mind04/mod-ruid210:25
Harisyes, my config is standard, working normally on other distributions(s) as well10:25
blackflowHaris: pastebin it please?10:26
Hariswill do10:33
Harisis php 7.2 available on xenial ?10:33
Harisfor production10:33
blackflowHaris: there's a PPA, with all the caveats of that.   https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php10:36
Harishttps://pastebin.com/raw/EfrS59j010:57
Haristhis is for mod ruid2 issue10:57
RoyKblackflow: PPAs for production? ;)11:33
HarisPPAs are going into produciton all over the world. nothing new about it11:39
Harisguys, any feedback on the paste for mod ruid2 ?11:39
ahasenacknever heard of this module before, sorry11:40
Harisits a mod to make sure the apache2 process serving a runs with the ownership + perms of that u/g11:41
Haris%s/serving a runs/serving requests runs/11:41
Hariswith this I can segregate each vhost with a separate u/g on a linux machine11:41
Haris%s/with/using/11:41
Harishttps://pastebin.com/raw/gvC1hZBg12:15
Harisfresh paste12:15
Harisdoes apache2 mod ruid2 work on 14.x ?12:16
Harisits not working for me12:16
Harisguys, anyone around at this hour12:26
UssatI dont see any reason it would not, its more an apache thing than Ubuntu thing12:30
Harisbut its not working on this one instance of 14.x12:32
Harisfile being saved from php code is getting saved with root privileges12:32
yeatsHaris: nothing in the apache2 logs about it?12:35
Harisnope12:35
yeatsI've never used that mod, but you might do better asking in an apache channel/forum (or contacting the devs? https://github.com/mind04/mod-ruid2).  Project looks dead to me though.12:36
ahasenackwhen a bug is filed against a package in xenial, for example. We verify it's indeed a bug there, but it's fixed already in later releases13:04
ahasenackshould we mark the main task as fix released, and add a task for xenial? Or only do the later if we are committing to an sru?13:05
rbasakIMHO, add a task for Xenial if it's a verified bug (ie. can be Triaged).13:07
rbasakIf not committing to an SRU, that can be made clear in a comment. If definitely refusing an SRU, it can always be changed to Won't Fix.13:07
rbasakI'm also in favour of setting Won't Fix even if it's just "for now" to set user expectations. The nuances can be made clear in a comment.13:07
ahasenackturns out bionic and cosmic are also affected by this bug I'm triaging, I though they would not be. But the question was worth it13:15
ahasenackthought*13:15
mmerloneHi, greetings from Brazil!13:15
ahasenackhi mmerlone, bom dia13:15
mmerloneIs there something wrong with ubuntu repos? I am unable to apt install ntp traceroute, "No candidate version found for traceroute"13:16
mmerloneTryied http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu13:16
ahasenackmmerlone: I had trouble with that mirror yesterday and removed it for the time being13:17
ahasenackthe br one, I mean13:17
ahasenackthe main one (archive.u.c) should be fine13:17
mmerlonejust tryied "us.archive.ubuntu.com and got the same13:17
ahasenackmmerlone: that bein said, traceroute is in universe13:17
ahasenackmmerlone: maybe you don't have universe enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list?13:18
mmerloneI did13:18
mmerloneOOpps13:18
ahasenackand did "apt update" succeed before that?13:18
mmerlonejust got the latest 18.04.1 iso, seems is a little different13:19
ahasenackdid you use the new installer?13:19
ahasenackif yes, it sounds like https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/178312913:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1783129 in subiquity "Only "main" component enabled after install" [High,Confirmed]13:19
mmerlonehttp://pasted.co/4f2881b413:19
mmerloneyes, new installer13:19
ahasenackok, so it's the bug I linked above13:19
sdezielmmerlone: I like mtr-tiny as traceroute client personally, it's in main :)13:20
ahasenackfeel free to click on "Does this bug affect you?" bit there :)13:20
mmerlonejust did. Will get sources.list from another server13:21
mmerloneahasenack: thank you!13:23
ahasenackmmerlone: sorry about the bug, at least it's easy to fix13:23
ahasenackor rather, easy to apply a fix13:24
ahasenackrbasak: do you remember if protobuf-c was ever discussed for a MIR?17:04
naccahasenack: LP: #80173517:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 801735 in protobuf-c (Ubuntu) "[MIR] protobuf-c" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80173517:06
nacc:)17:06
Ussat18.04.1 out ?17:06
ahasenackhm, I searched17:06
naccahasenack: you have to advanced search -> change the states17:06
nacc!isitoutyet17:07
ubottuYes, it's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party :)17:07
naccUssat: -^ :)17:07
naccUssat: not sure if the ISOs are spun17:07
ahasenackbut it's in universe right now17:08
ahasenackI guess whatever required it is no longer there, and it was demoted?17:08
ahasenackcollectd perhaps, which was the motivation for that particular mir back then17:09
naccit was in main in oneiric, then in universe in oneiric17:09
nacc(per publishing history)17:09
nacchttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/protobuf-c/0.14-1build117:10
naccsame srcpkg/version, too17:11
ahasenackit briefly touched main17:11
ahasenackwell, that is making the bind9 delta grow now17:12
ahasenackyet another build-depends we have to drop because it's in universe17:12
Ussatnacc, I am more interested in testing a 16 --> 18 upgrade17:13
oerheksyes, the server isos are published http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/17:14
naccUssat: ah yes, then you should be fine17:15
naccUssat: i'm not sure if the upgrade path is 'enabled' or not yet17:15
Ussatnacc, ya will wait on that17:15
UssatI have 6 test systems with apps on em primed and ready17:15
dpb1popey: is there a discourse bot that could echo new posts into here?18:16
popeyI'm not aware of one18:16
popeyyou could use rss? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/server.rss18:17
dpb1hm18:18
popeydunno if there's a generic rss to irc bot (probably is, the venn diagram of "people who use irc" and "people who use rss" probably overlaps closely) :)18:18
dpb1yes, gotta think so18:19
dpb1https://github.com/meigrafd/feedie18:19
popeyi can take a look next week18:19
popeybut feel free to ping if you need help setting something up18:19
dpb1thanks, I might play around with it18:19
popey(I imagine you don't need my help to spin up a mini aws and put that code on though) :D18:19
dpb1heh18:20
popeyhave a great weekend18:20
popeyo/18:20
dpb1cya18:20
beowuffWoah... The 18.04.1 /etc/apt/sources.list is almost empty!18:27
beowuffOh, I see the bug linked above.18:28
UssatGonna be updating a few 18 test servers tomorrow I think, and a few 16->18 tests soon(ish)18:47
tomreynthen i'll do it after 'soon(ish)' ;)18:48
Ussatso shoult a dist-upgrade get get to to latest 18.04.1 ?18:54
Ussatshould18:54
ahasenackif you are on 18.04, yes18:54
Ussatok, gonne do a test run on personal VM18:55
Ussatthanks18:55
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saint_hi - can someone tell me what are the requirements to instsall openstack using conjure , regarding web server ? I followed the documentation at https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack but it looks like conjure does not intall a web server ..21:26
sarnoldsaint_: conjure-up is normally used for *complicated* installations, like openstack or kubernetes; the kinds of things that require a dozen different interacting services on dozens or thousands of computers..21:32
sarnoldsaint_: if you just want to automate creating a webserver VM instance on an openstack cloud, juju might be a better fit for that21:32
saint_sarnold i used conjure to actually install openstack21:33
saint_it s just that now open stack GUI is using Horizon on a web server, and I thought conjure-up would have installed it (the web server)21:34
sarnoldsaint_: aha!21:35
sarnoldsaint_: yes, I'd expect a horizon somewhere on a brand new cloud..21:35
saint_and i tried to install apache , but it is still not working . i guess i have to install apache first, horizon, then open stack ?21:35
sarnoldI *really* hope not21:36
sarnoldthat would not be convenient21:36
saint_i tried 2 times just in case i screwed up. and every time there is no WWW server installed..21:37
sarnoldthe guide here suggests that it should just be accessible at http://some.ip.address/horizon https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack21:37
saint_that s the guide i followed.21:37
saint_and it is not accessible, since there is no www server installed21:37
sarnolddid you install it into lxd instances on your machine? or multiple machines? or a public cloud..?21:39
saint_ldx on the same machine21:40
saint_i m just trying it out for now21:40
naccthen wouldn't it be one of the lxd's IPs?21:41
sarnoldsaint_: does lxd list show you the new lxd guests?21:41
sarnolddoes it show any issues?21:41
saint_no issue21:41
sarnolddoes it show an IP address for seomthing that looks like it probably hosts horizon?21:42
saint_lxd show the list of vm i have21:42
saint_yes, and it is the ip address i am trying to access without success21:42
saint_netstat -nap|grep 80 shows that no service is listening on port 8021:42
naccsaint_: that's run *in* the horizon lxd?21:42
saint_no clue. i am restoring my previous image, and trying again. stand by21:43
saint_it s going to take a while actually.21:43
naccsaint_: ... you should have a clue21:43
naccas in, you ran that commadn *somewhere*21:43
naccwhere did you run it? hint, pastebins are helpful for this kind of thing21:43
saint_i mean yes. lxc list shows the machines i tried from the cloud21:43
saint_but NOT the horizon21:43
naccwhat?21:44
naccsaint_: i feel like that sentence didn't make sense21:44
naccif you don't have a horizon lxd, then I don't know where you ran netstat21:44
saint_in the host os (ubuntu itself)21:46
sarnoldah!21:46
naccthen that weas ... i think, wrong21:46
nacchttps://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/install-openstack-with-conjure-up#221:46
saint_i restored my old image . reinstalling now to see what went wrong where ..21:46
naccsays at the end it gives you the explicit url21:47
sarnoldyou have to execute the netstat or ss command within the lxd instance that is hosting horizon21:47
saint_dang it !21:47
saint_i bypassed the last screen !21:47
naccdon't know why you'd do that, but ok  :)21:47
naccyou can still find it from the lxd containers deployed, i think21:48
sarnoldlxd list should show the IP address, iirc21:48
nacclxc list, and see if21:48
saint_nacc this tutorial is way better than the other one i followed21:48
saint_i ll try now.21:48
naccsarnold: lxc, right, not lxd?21:48
saint_i mean. now that i restored an old image, it s going to take a while. i ll be back in a little21:48
saint_yes, lxc21:48
naccsarnold: just making sure i didn't miss a cli change! :)21:48
sarnoldnacc: argh. right. I *hate* the 'lxc' command name to use the lxd service. so confusing.21:48
naccsarnold: :)21:48
nacchttps://github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up/issues/72521:50
naccindicates you can use juju status to find the openstack-dashboard machine id and then that correlates to a lxd ip21:50
naccor even just the unit directly, i guess21:50
sarnoldnacc: aha, good find. I'm .. saddened, but not shocked, that lxc list doesn't know the purpose of each container :(21:51
naccsarnold: it might name them usefully, but that feels like an implementation detail21:51
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skylitehow can I determine if a package is virtual and how can I find it's non-virtual versions?23:09
naccskylite: iirc, virtual means it's in the provides: line of a package23:15
naccskylite: context?23:15
skyliteyes23:16
skyliteThe following package(s) are "virtual package" names: pure-ftpd23:16
skyliteand I cant find which package should be the non-virtual(s)23:16
skyliteto avoid this23:16
naccskylite: i think you need grep-status (from dctrl-tools) to do it; at least that's one way23:17
naccskylite: wht version of ubuntu?23:18
naccskylite: on 18.04, pure-ftpd is a real pakcage, and afaict, in all releases23:19
skyliteaccording to salt it isn't23:21
skylitenot sure where it gets that23:21
naccskylite: sorry, not sure what salt is in this context23:21
skylitesaltstack23:21
skylitebut it does not have a problem with pure-ftpd-common23:22
naccskylite: is that an ubuntu package? `apt-cache policy pure-ftpd` ?23:22
naccskylite: you still haven't said what version of ubuntu, btw23:22
skylitesry 1823:22
naccskylite: ok, 18.04?23:22
naccskylite: 18 isn't a version :)23:22
nacc!info pure-ftpd bionic23:23
ubottupure-ftpd (source: pure-ftpd): Secure and efficient FTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.46-1build1 (bionic), package size 124 kB, installed size 530 kB23:23
naccreal, not virtual package --^23:23
skylitestrange23:23
naccskylite: if you can verify the policy output,  you should be able to see what's going on better23:24
skylitepolicy output?23:25
naccskylite: asked for above, `apt-cache policy pure-ftpd`23:25
skyliteyes23:26
naccskylite: fyi, https://askubuntu.com/questions/366135/how-to-search-for-packages-that-provides-a-virtual-package may be useful in the future23:26
skyliteI tried it and it gives back 3 packages for pure-ftpd23:27
skylitepure-ftpd-ldap pure-ftpd-mysql and pure-ftpd-postgresql23:27
skylitenacc: how is it not a virtual package then?23:28
naccskylite: do you not have universe enabled?23:29
naccskylite: can you pastebin the output?23:29
skylitehttps://pastebin.com/pXGCUBNK23:31
naccskylite: that's your sources.list23:31
skylitesorry what did you want23:31
naccskylite: `apt-cache policy pure-ftpd`23:32
skylitehttps://pastebin.com/GL6d4dV623:32
nacc...23:33
naccthat clearly shows it's installable23:33
naccskylite: i feel like you're trolling, maybe?23:33
skylitenot really23:33
skyliteif its a virtual package23:33
skylitewhat would be different? is a virtual package not installable?23:33
naccit's *not* virtua.23:34
naccyou can install it, as that output shows23:34
nacca virtual package is like a symbol a bunch of packages provide23:34
naccyou need to tell apt which provider you wantto use, you can't install a virtual package23:34
naccbut pure-ftpd is *not* a virtual package23:34
skyliteok it just never says that its a virtual23:35
skyliteso if it was virtual it should show multiple packages?23:35
skyliteah ok23:36
skyliteso for example23:36
skyliteapt show awk | grep "not a real package"23:36
skyliteok sorry I missed that line23:36
naccskylite: you can't search for virtual packages easily23:37
naccskylite: yes, ok, awk is a virtual package23:37
naccuse the link i pasted above, or grep-status to figure out what provides it23:38
nacci'm eod, but you kind of went in a big circle, which is why i said trolling :)23:38
skyliteit's just wierd that only the virtual packages are identified clearly by apt23:38
skyliteand the ones are not I just have to know that they are not virtual23:38
naccskylite: i'm not sure why this is a problem in general23:39
naccon 18.04, as well, apt will tell you what provides it23:39
skylitemaybe its just me then23:39
nacci just tested with awk23:39
nacchttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8hZTxWSyw6/23:39
naccskylite: in any case, i think you should do some more testing/reading, this isn't a general problem for most users, afaict23:40
nacchave a nice evening23:40
skylitesalt mislead me23:40
skylitethx:)23:40
cryptodanWhy do I keep getting this error on ubuntu server 16.04 Jan  6 20:29:15 server kernel: [ 5493.523309] aacraid: Host adapter abort request (4,0,0,0)23:49
cryptodanDell PowerEdge 4600 the error never happened on Ubuntu 14.0423:51
tomreynhttp://ask.microsemi.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/15357/~/error%3A-aacraid%3A-host-adapter-abort-request23:55
sarnoldnice find23:56
cryptodan_mobiledonest work23:56
tomreynbut very old, not a good explanation23:56
cryptodan_mobiledoesnt*23:56
tomreynthere is also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=155765923:56
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1557659 in kernel "aacraid: Host adapter abort request" [Unspecified,New]23:56
sarnolddang. that makes me think it'll be kernel bisect time23:58
tomreynsounds like it. also i dont seem to spot the workaround discussed there23:58
tomreyncomment 19 i guess23:59
cryptodan_mobileim going back to ubuntu 14.04 its obvious there is an issue in newer distros23:59

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