| oerheks | vavkamil, remove it, and install the snap | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| oerheks | https://snapcraft.io/sublime-text | 00:02 |
| asphyxia | This might seem like a silly question, but I just received a 9 cell battery after my 6 cell one only lasts for 10 minutes. Is there any point keeping the 6 cell or should I just recycle it? Like idk for testing purposes or something | 00:03 |
| === nzoueidi_ is now known as nzoueidi | ||
| oerheks | recycle | 00:04 |
| vavkamil | is it safe to use snap? | 00:04 |
| oerheks | toners and catridges and battery, some points collect & give a refund | 00:04 |
| oerheks | snap, yes is is safe, and all you need to do is trust the author | 00:05 |
| vavkamil | This revision of snap "sublime-text" was published using classic confinement and thus may perform arbitrary system changes outside of the security sandbox that snaps are usually confined to, which may put your system at risk. | 00:05 |
| asphyxia | oerheks: thanks, haha I just have trouble throwing things out lol | 00:05 |
| asphyxia | calling a recycle centre now ^^ | 00:06 |
| oerheks | ah, prop stuff, pay | 00:06 |
| oerheks | amd they are happy to give support | 00:06 |
| strixdio | I'm not having any luck with SANBOOT ubuntu. | 00:08 |
| strixdio | ipxe just sits at "booting from SAN device". it works perfectly fine with centos 7 | 00:08 |
| asphyxia | what the heck $45 au to recycle a battery | 00:08 |
| asphyxia | get faaaaarked | 00:09 |
| bazhang | lets stay topical please asphyxia and no cursing | 00:12 |
| bazhang | chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic please asphyxia | 00:13 |
| asphyxia | hmph >..> okkk | 00:13 |
| mikeride | I'm not interested in sacrificing my freedom for the sake of making ny it easy to track probates dwellers . | 00:20 |
| bazhang | mikeride, right channel? this is ubuntu support | 00:20 |
| mikeride | no I have no guilt | 00:20 |
| bazhang | lets take the random chatter elsewhere please mikeride | 00:21 |
| mikeride | pressure to do so is not welcomed . I will not stand down and claim these crimes if harassment and battery are needed. | 00:21 |
| Tin_man | mikeride, can it up and sell it elsewhere. | 00:22 |
| mikeride | tin_man disconnecting in a bit | 00:23 |
| mikeride | why don't we do something tin_man | 00:23 |
| === ahi2_ is now known as ahi2 | ||
| mmazing | got a fresh install of lubuntu 18.04 on some ~5 yr old hardware and everything works great except the ethernet port does nothing at all, and isn't listed in /etc/network/interfaces | 00:31 |
| mmazing | however, it lights up before the system boots | 00:31 |
| mmazing | but once lubuntu running, it's dead | 00:31 |
| mmazing | any ideas? | 00:31 |
| bazhang | whats the chipset for that ethernet mmazing | 00:32 |
| mmazing | im not sure, and can't remember how to look at hardware via terminal | 00:32 |
| bazhang | lspci | 00:32 |
| Tin_man | mmazing, do have another live linux dvd to try? | 00:33 |
| mmazing | this is really strange as well because this exact same thing is happening on my fairly new laptop but i rarely use ethernet on it | 00:33 |
| mmazing | turns out they are both Realtek | 00:34 |
| mmazing | RTL8111/8168/8411 | 00:34 |
| bazhang | give us the exact chip, thanks | 00:34 |
| mmazing | found a guide :D | 00:34 |
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| bazhang | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/r8168-dkms mmazing | 00:35 |
| bazhang | Thats what needed for bionic | 00:36 |
| lovepopsickle | anyone gotten the update prompts from 16.04 to 18.04 yet? | 00:37 |
| mmazing | awesome, thanks bazhang | 00:37 |
| mmazing | +1 internets for you | 00:37 |
| bazhang | mmazing, it's in the repos for bionic | 00:38 |
| mmazing | it's also in xenial too, my laptop is running 16.04 | 00:39 |
| bazhang | sudo apt install r8168-dkms mmazing | 00:39 |
| bazhang | ok, great | 00:39 |
| mmazing | now i need to figure out how to get that over to this machine with no internet | 00:39 |
| mmazing | can i somehow export a .deb from apt? | 00:39 |
| bazhang | what about sneakernetting it | 00:40 |
| mmazing | oh ... actually, i have a usb wifi card laying around, that'll prolly work | 00:40 |
| bazhang | usb stick, then take the deb and isntall | 00:40 |
| bazhang | or that | 00:40 |
| mmazing | hmmm, actually, i want to learn how to do that instead | 00:40 |
| mmazing | how do i get the .deb for that package? | 00:40 |
| bazhang | packages.ub untu.com for one | 00:41 |
| bazhang | minus the space there | 00:41 |
| mmazing | i'm on https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/r8168-dkms - do i need to download source package and compile? | 00:42 |
| mmazing | nevermind ... | 00:43 |
| mmazing | found the .deb download area, i'm a little slow today :\ | 00:43 |
| strixdio | well, seems like the whole reason I couldn't get ubuntu to boot from SAN is ... grub failed to install? | 00:43 |
| strixdio | omg what's with the freenode spam | 00:43 |
| ryuo | Spam? What spam? | 00:45 |
| OverrRyde | hi everyone! i need help finding instructions on setting up a VNC server on 16.04 under specific conditions, is anyone available? | 00:53 |
| mmazing | hmmmm, got r8168-dkms installed on laptop and pc and no dice on either one | 01:03 |
| bazhang | mmazing, you need to load it then | 01:04 |
| mmazing | it's a kernel module? | 01:05 |
| mmazing | modprobe? | 01:05 |
| danieru98 | nacc, i've reported the bug with ubuntu-bug linux and send the link to #ubuntu-kernel and explained the issue in a nutshell, but there's only 100 users there and nobody has said anything in one hour, is it usually this quiet? | 01:07 |
| bazhang | danieru98, cusp of the weekend could be, why not also hit the mailing liss with it | 01:08 |
| bazhang | !lists | danieru98 | 01:09 |
| ubottu | danieru98: Mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailing lists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com | 01:09 |
| bazhang | lists | 01:09 |
| danieru98 | bazhang, i've never used mailing lists before. Do I just send an email to kernel-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com? | 01:11 |
| mmazing | yeah, so i see r8169 is loaded in /proc/modules and r8168 is not | 01:14 |
| mmazing | do i need to blacklist r8169 ? | 01:14 |
| danieru98 | bazhang, is the mailing list still in use? i don't see emails more recent than 2010 in here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-bugs/ | 01:21 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| nehemiah | I boot a bunch of computers (various types) from the network. They run a bootstrapped Ubuntu Bionic I installed the Cinnamon desktop on top of that. The issue is that some of these computers get into some kind of power saving mode. As they do that, I think, somehow the NIC gets disabled. | 01:28 |
| nehemiah | Can I prevent that from happening? I've looked in the bios but couldn't find any setting that prevents that. | 01:28 |
| kyle__ | Question about ryzen APUs on 18.04: what does lspci say your graphics card is? | 01:28 |
| kyle__ | And what version do you have? | 01:28 |
| kyle__ | (and if there's a better place to ask this question, just let me know:) | 01:30 |
| gogeta | nehemiah: you try sweaking the power saving settings | 01:31 |
| nehemiah | Thank you tried that and my clients still go down. Maybe I can add the acpi=off parameter to the kernel and give it a shot. | 01:32 |
| gogeta | nehemiah: try just turning off that setting | 01:32 |
| gogeta | nehemiah: it sounds like thw wm power saving is doing it | 01:33 |
| gogeta | nehemiah: in cinnamon look at the power mangment settings | 01:34 |
| nehemiah | I've got everything set to 'off' there. | 01:34 |
| nehemiah | Also it even happens before login, at the lightdm login screen | 01:35 |
| nehemiah | People log out, then fifteen minutes later the next person comes and has to reboot the thing. | 01:35 |
| ryuo | nehemiah: what's the ethernet hardware? | 01:47 |
| nehemiah | ryuo: The clients that give me problems are HP T610 they have BCM57781 NIC chip. | 01:52 |
| ryuo | nehemiah: one option you can explore is messing with settings via ethtool. | 01:52 |
| ryuo | Hm. | 01:53 |
| ryuo | Seems tg3 driver doesn't have any options of interest. | 01:55 |
| nehemiah | Let me just say that the same clients on Xenial worked absolutely fine. | 01:55 |
| ryuo | It's likely a kernel issue... | 01:56 |
| nehemiah | ryuo: That's what I thought too. | 02:01 |
| nehemiah | For what it's worth; I just booted one of these things with acpi=off. Just to see what's happening. | 02:03 |
| mikeride | disposition of The Court: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cFpV7YkqqD/ | 02:17 |
| mikeride | Ubuntu let blessing rest upon U | 02:17 |
| mikeride | to be the instrument of Justice | 02:17 |
| mikeride | Ubuntu let blessing rest upon U to be the instrument of Justice, to be used of GOD | 02:18 |
| oerheks | !ops | 02:18 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax | 02:18 |
| Lord-Kamina | What package provides apt-add-repository in Xenial? | 02:30 |
| oerheks | !find apt-add-repository xenial | 02:32 |
| ubottu | Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 18 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apt-add-repository&searchon=names&suite=xenial§ion=all | 02:32 |
| oerheks | software properties common | 02:32 |
| Lord-Kamina | Hmm... it was right | 02:33 |
| Lord-Kamina | Maybe I need to run apt-get update first then... | 02:34 |
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| === Blade is now known as lamercho | ||
| HornyReaper | is there any way to restore compiz working with mate ? | 03:24 |
| lotuspsychje | HornyReaper: check #ubuntu-mate | 04:13 |
| MrAureliusR | hey folks | 04:17 |
| MrAureliusR | so it seems udevadm doesn't exist as part of the udev package anymore? | 04:17 |
| MrAureliusR | I want to create a udev rule for a couple USB-to-serial devices I have | 04:18 |
| lotuspsychje | MrAureliusR: can this help for you mate? https://linuxconfig.org/tutorial-on-how-to-write-basic-udev-rules-in-linux | 04:19 |
| === mgedmin_ is now known as mgedmin | ||
| boblamont | I'm in lubuntu. trying to run the sound out into the sound in... volume control's input devices tab notes that line in is plugged in, and it shows the levels, but I can't get it to show up in audacity, and I installed QARecord because that appears to just take whatever input is the selected default that's not taking the audio either. | 05:01 |
| === capella is now known as capella|away | ||
| lotuspsychje | boblamont: lubuntu version please? | 05:49 |
| boblamont | lotuspsychje: 16.04 I wound up using the pulse audio internal recording thing...looping the audio jacks seemed to start working when I did that, but it made audacity stutter a lot | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | boblamont: have you tryed a pulseaudio restart yet? | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | boblamont: perhaps also try with pavucontrol to check whats going on | 05:55 |
| lotuspsychje | boblamont: while you testing around your sound, leave a tail -f /var/log/syslog open to see errors | 05:55 |
| boblamont | ok,thanks... for now I'll probably just stick to the non-cable version... but I'll need to revisit it when I need to plug something else into line in | 05:56 |
| lotuspsychje | boblamont: system up to date to latest also? | 05:57 |
| me-1 | hi...Can you please give link to download Ubuntu for Powerpc for my my imac g4..? | 06:01 |
| lotuspsychje | !mac | me-1 start here | 06:01 |
| ubottu | me-1 start here: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages | 06:01 |
| me-1 | lotuspsychje, can you please provide me link to download latest Ubuntu for PPC , I will prefer torrent link | 06:03 |
| ozbrk | hi people I have some issues with ummm scrolling. I'm using a Logitech marathon m705 mouse with solaar. When the smooth scrolling is on the content on the app menus are a little bit fast and turning the mouse wheel on half is enough to pass a menu for example | 06:03 |
| ozbrk | If I close it then scrolling is far tooslow on browsers | 06:03 |
| lotuspsychje | me-1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ | 06:04 |
| me-1 | lotuspsychje, what is the difference between alternate and desktop versions | 06:08 |
| guiverc | me-1, if you mean via https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads (alternate); there is the network installer; torrents ... or alternative ways to download to the 'full' iso | 06:16 |
| endojelly | "Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after 18.04.1's release expected in late July." | 06:17 |
| endojelly | I accept that, but what's the reason for that policy? | 06:17 |
| me-1 | guiverc, for now I am looking for a live cd ,powerpc, for my Imac g4 | 06:18 |
| endojelly | I can see why waiting for the .1 is favorable, to ensure stability | 06:18 |
| guiverc | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads provides link for 14.04 (2014.April release; 5 years for 'main', the 'universe' (3+ years) has ~gone already) | 06:21 |
| === Katnip_ is now known as Katnip | ||
| guiverc | endojelly, i've never heard a reason given, expect it's always been that way; allows some control over network; having people around (should issues occur & Canonical want staff around etc)... Thursday is always 'release' day though; assuming its the 'few days' you're asking about | 06:23 |
| guiverc | if was the .1; stability of course is the reason... | 06:23 |
| endojelly | guiverc, see my quote from the wiki, which says that 16.04 LTS upgrades will not be enabled until a few days *after* 18.04.1 | 06:24 |
| guiverc | endojelly, what part of it are you asking about? | 06:25 |
| endojelly | also, does that mean that 16.04 LTS will upgrade straight to 18.04.1 LTS? (probably yes) | 06:25 |
| endojelly | guiverc, why it's enabled a few days after 18.04.1's release, and not on the same day | 06:25 |
| endojelly | and, secondarily, why upgrades from 16.04 LTS are not enabled directly with 18.04 LTS, though there I can imagine that Canonical wants some baking time before unleashing the new LTS release on existing LTS installations. | 06:26 |
| guiverc | as stated; .1 is a release; so always a thursday. it allows lessening of bandwidth for the one day (LTS upgrades are a huge % of users), allows them to pick which day the 'taps' are turned on so staff are around etc | 06:27 |
| guiverc | but this is opinion from what I've heard employees say (podcasts etc) - i've no special knowledge | 06:27 |
| endojelly | guiverc, I didn't ask why .1 is released on a Thursday? | 06:27 |
| endojelly | guiverc, I'm asking why LTS upgrades from 16.04 LTS are enabled a few days after 18.04.1's release? | 06:28 |
| endojelly | guiverc, or is that to not have the combined new 18.04.1 users and 16.04 LTS upgraders traffic, then? | 06:29 |
| guiverc | to reduce network bandwidth (3rd time stated); ie. 18.04 users upgrade to 18.04.1 first; the larger % of 16.04 LTS upgrade later staggering bandwidth; it also allows them to pick day when employees are around ... ( | 06:29 |
| endojelly | ah, ok, thanks | 06:29 |
| endojelly | makes sense | 06:29 |
| endojelly | While we're at it | 06:30 |
| endojelly | what's good for HiDPI? | 06:30 |
| endojelly | I have Retina displays | 06:30 |
| lovepopsickle | can't you do it manually with do-release-upgrade now? or is there any advantage of waiting? | 06:30 |
| lovepopsickle | or that command won't work yet? | 06:30 |
| endojelly | lovepopsickle, that was part of the reason for my question (though I didn't ask that directly) | 06:31 |
| guiverc | lovepopsickle, i don't know if it'll work or not (yes it can be forced; but why force it?) - it's currently only 'hours' after the .1 release, not the days .. so it may not have been enabled yet (I've already jumped; so don't know) | 06:31 |
| endojelly | lovepopsickle, but I guess I'll just wait until it's regularly enabled. On the off chance that anything goes spectacularly wrong with 18.04.1, it's a bit safer | 06:31 |
| endojelly | (even though I have snapshots and could just roll back) | 06:32 |
| lovepopsickle | for clarification your saying the prompts are coming in hours or in days? | 06:33 |
| endojelly | the wiki says days, but that could be outdated of course | 06:33 |
| lovepopsickle | guiverc, ? | 06:33 |
| guiverc | hours since .1; it's mid-friday-arvo for me; the .1 was officially release ~5am my time... which was only hours ago! | 06:33 |
| gogeta | endojelly: any modern wm would support hidpi | 06:33 |
| gogeta | endojelly: i would say mostly gnome 3 and kde | 06:34 |
| lovepopsickle | oh i see what your saying. I am talking about when it will be prompted | 06:34 |
| lovepopsickle | so probably monday then I guess? | 06:34 |
| lovepopsickle | i doubt they will do it over the weekend | 06:34 |
| gogeta | lovepopsickle: if you have a install you dont need to reinstall | 06:35 |
| lovepopsickle | reinstall? I am on 16.04 right now | 06:36 |
| gogeta | lovepopsickle: ah a upgrade | 06:37 |
| endojelly | I should *probably* actually wait until the FPGA software officially supports 18.04 before doing the upgrade, but since this is only for private projects and I have snapshots... as soon as upgrades are enabled, I'll give it a try. | 06:38 |
| gogeta | endojelly: probly best | 06:38 |
| guiverc | lovepopsickle, yeah I'd expect monday (UST/UTC time; during business hours london time too, but we'll just have to wait & see) | 06:39 |
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| SpeedrunnerG55 | Hi | 07:01 |
| === OICU812 is now known as Tabmasher | ||
| SpeedrunnerG55 | I just updated from 16.04 to 18.04 and I don’t see a login screen just a purple screen. The SSH server is up and I can remotely log in but the shell is seemingly gone what should I do? | 07:02 |
| SpeedrunnerG55__ | >.> | 07:14 |
| TomyWork | hi | 07:30 |
| Haris | hello all | 07:31 |
| Haris | mod_ruid2 is not working on 14.04 | 07:31 |
| Haris | I configured it like; | 07:32 |
| TomyWork | can you upgrade to 18.04? | 07:32 |
| Haris | RMode config | 07:32 |
| Haris | RUidGid user group | 07:32 |
| TomyWork | does it work there? | 07:32 |
| Haris | can't for this box | 07:32 |
| TomyWork | ok | 07:32 |
| TomyWork | just asking :) | 07:32 |
| Haris | its officially available. why isn't it working ? is the config somewhat different ? Is this a bug resolved in later version(s)? | 07:33 |
| Haris | its been supported on centos for years. what's up with it on ubuntu ? | 07:34 |
| TomyWork | i have never even heard of that thing you're trying to use :) | 07:35 |
| TomyWork | i'm guessing it's an apache module? | 07:35 |
| TomyWork | i'm more of an nginx guy | 07:35 |
| TomyWork | a few days ago i asked about my bluetooth not working since I did a "right-click -> Turn off bluetooth" in KDE. This problem persisted even after a reboot. I managed to fix it with a "sudo hciconfig hci0 up". However, now I have to do that after every reboot or bluetooth will not work. | 07:36 |
| Haris | yep, its apache mod | 07:38 |
| TomyWork | eep, that thing sounds like a bad idea | 07:39 |
| TomyWork | "there are some security issues, for instance if attacker successfully exploits the httpd process, he can set effective capabilities and setuid to root." | 07:40 |
| TomyWork | "some" | 07:40 |
| TomyWork | basically you can just as well run the thing as root if you use that mod | 07:41 |
| TomyWork | well, not quite, but close | 07:41 |
| Haris | ? | 07:42 |
| Haris | never had a security issue with it | 07:42 |
| Haris | in yrs | 07:42 |
| TomyWork | that you know of :D | 07:42 |
| TomyWork | maybe no one ever tried | 07:42 |
| TomyWork | it's not a security issue per se, but it cuts out a huge chunk of mitigation | 07:43 |
| TomyWork | basically all your privilege separation can now be bypassed pretty easily | 07:43 |
| TomyWork | sure, usually people shouldn't be able to exploit your httpd process in the first place, but if they do, they get a privilege escalation to root for free | 07:46 |
| Haris | how ? | 07:51 |
| Haris | can it be bypassed ? | 07:51 |
| paleApe | Good morning, I want to execute a program via bash. The tool continues running and claims/blocks the terminal for itself. How can I continue working in the same bash window? | 07:56 |
| ikonia | you can background it, but it depends on the program if that's a good idea or not | 07:59 |
| JimBuntu | paleApe, `/path/to/tool &` | 07:59 |
| guiverc | paleApe, to run a command/script in the background; end the command with a "&" (no quotes) | 07:59 |
| ikonia | what are you trying to execute | 07:59 |
| ikonia | and why would you not consider just opening a seperate terminal | 07:59 |
| paleApe | It's hipchat. Normally it is started automatically when ubuntu starts up but after an update the file-path was changed. So I wanted to start it manually via bash but wanted to close the bash-windows after HipChat has started up. | 08:05 |
| paleApe | I know, I could just execute the file via file browser. I just wanted to know, IF it's possible in general | 08:06 |
| Haris | guys, is there a way to make ruid2 work with apache on 14.x ? | 08:08 |
| lotuspsychje | Haris: your on ubuntu server? | 08:16 |
| Haris | yes | 08:16 |
| lotuspsychje | Haris: try #ubuntu-server please | 08:16 |
| lotuspsychje | Haris: there is also #httpd for specific apache questions | 08:17 |
| Haris | DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS" | 08:17 |
| illuminated | wow that's ancient | 08:17 |
| Haris | ruid2 works on apache on centos. so I'm thinking it works in general. just not working on 14.x | 08:17 |
| lotuspsychje | illuminated: can we help you? | 08:17 |
| illuminated | no. no questions for the moment. | 08:18 |
| Haris | already asked in #httpd | 08:18 |
| lotuspsychje | Haris: best way to get your issue solved, is to give us the full story, steps tryed, whats not working,whats your end goal,..all in one line to the channel | 08:20 |
| edmoore | does the 18.04.1 update take a while to propagate? I'm on 16.04 lts and do-release-upgrade says there's nothing | 08:28 |
| lotuspsychje | edmoore: can take a few till upgrade window shows up | 08:29 |
| edmoore | a few... hours? | 08:30 |
| edmoore | i was hoping to do it on my work machine on a friday because what could go wrong | 08:30 |
| Ool | if you d'ont want to wait use -d | 08:31 |
| ikonia | don't use -d | 08:31 |
| ikonia | that can take you to a development version | 08:31 |
| lotuspsychje | edmoore: patience is the key here, let everyone do his work..it will come | 08:32 |
| edmoore | i like the idea of there being lots of people in the chain waiting to deliver it to me | 08:32 |
| edmoore | but roger | 08:33 |
| lotuspsychje | edmoore: releasing can never give an exact time, hope you understand? | 08:33 |
| edmoore | sure, i just saw a bunch of reviews for it pop up online so I assumed it was actually released | 08:33 |
| edmoore | rather than releasing in the present participle sense | 08:33 |
| Ool | ikonia: if you try it tell you which version… and if it's the 18.04 … it 's the same packages than in a few hours | 08:33 |
| lotuspsychje | edmoore: 18.04.1 has been released yes, but for ltsupgrades it can take a while | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | !ltsupgrade | edmoore | 08:34 |
| ubottu | edmoore: Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. | 08:34 |
| edmoore | righto, thank you for explaining that bit, i didn't know | 08:34 |
| lotuspsychje | edmoore: no problem | 08:34 |
| guiverc | fyi: the announcement release notes for 18.04.1 state "Users of Ubuntu 16.04 will soon be offered an automatic upgrade to 18.04.1 via Update Manager." (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-July/000234.html) - ie. SOON | 08:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Ool: be carefull if you give advice like that, we dont need users ending up on a devel release | 08:36 |
| Ool | lotuspsychje: in fact I always reinstall, and I wait the end of summer to change for the new LTS version… but if people don't want to wait… | 08:39 |
| Ool | and it's just the last day | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | Ool: we have a lot of users on the LTS way, that can wait.. | 08:39 |
| Ool | not 3 month before | 08:39 |
| lotuspsychje | Ool: until .1 releases, there are still many bugs regular users dont need | 08:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Ool: but lets move this to #ubuntu-discuss if you want to talk about | 08:41 |
| Ool | lotuspsychje: in fact I think you tell the truth :) | 08:41 |
| luna_ | https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/07/ubuntu-18-04-1-lts-release | 08:42 |
| edmoore | yes, it was that very article that confused me infact | 08:43 |
| edmoore | 'the arrival of Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS also marks the point at which users of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) will begin to see an Ubuntu 18.04 upgrade notification' | 08:43 |
| edmoore | and do-release-upgrade showned nothing, so I thought i might have a problem | 08:43 |
| edmoore | fake news eh | 08:44 |
| lotuspsychje | edmoore: do-release-upgrade is not fake...but all needs to be synced first to work | 08:45 |
| edmoore | i know that, i was talking about the article | 08:45 |
| blackflow | yah, "marks the point at which" is faek news. :) | 08:45 |
| edmoore | you have explainied, and I now understand, that it takes a while to propagate to ltsupgrades. the article is suggesting otherwise - it's the article that's wrong | 08:46 |
| blackflow | I mean, OMG! it's OMGubuntu! Clicks! Baits! Content! OMG! | 08:46 |
| lotuspsychje | edmoore: omgubuntu is not part of canonical, if you need real news come here first | 08:47 |
| edmoore | a good name for the source of truth too | 08:49 |
| edmoore | thanks | 08:49 |
| wandering_vagran | Hi all, if a package is being pinned in /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences file, how can I unpin it to upgrade it? | 08:49 |
| wandering_vagran | apt-mark unhold says that the package is not held, which I guess is different from pinned. | 08:50 |
| luna_ | Erisian: should pop up in 10 minutes | 08:51 |
| luna_ | edmoore even* | 08:51 |
| === capella is now known as capella|away | ||
| luna_ | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-July/000234.html | 09:00 |
| PCatinean | Hello everyone, can anyone help me understand why tlp does not shut down my pcie nvidia card but when I do powertop --auto-tune it works? | 09:02 |
| luna_ | New Ubuntu on its way down :) | 09:03 |
| lotuspsychje | luna_: please dont repeat in this channel, ubuntu support only | 09:04 |
| luna_ | lotuspsychje: sorry | 09:05 |
| X-Seti | Hello | 09:10 |
| guiverc | X-Seti, hi; if you have a Ubuntu question, please just ask it (try to keep to a single line, and be patient waiting a response - most of us do other things; eg. I just noticed your 'hello' :) | 09:35 |
| X-Seti | Hello guiverc, I do but it's apache2 related, I followed a 'how to install the perfect server for 18.04'. only to find there is a problem with running .PHP index files, 4 weeks on i'm unable to resolve the issue. | 09:42 |
| guiverc | X-Seti, ideally you should have asked your question generally (others may ignore it due to my name being @ start), and I don't know apache. I'd suggest waiting here a bit (see if someone else responds), then try #ubuntu-server where it's more likely to be used/known.. if you don't get a response from either, try again later etc... | 09:47 |
| blackflow | X-Seti: what's teh problem? and indeed #ubuntu-server is perhaps better place for PHP/Apache support | 09:50 |
| TafThorne1 | Is the release a day late? =-O | 09:50 |
| blackflow | TafThorne1: no, it's out. | 09:54 |
| TafThorne1 | blackflow: website just not updated yet? Still says 18.04 not 18.04.1 | 10:01 |
| blackflow | TafThorne1: What website? This shows 18.04.1 for me: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server | 10:02 |
| blackflow | (Desktop too) | 10:02 |
| TafThorne1 | I thought https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes but that does say .1 now | 10:03 |
| TafThorne1 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 10:04 |
| TafThorne1 | blackflow: maybe that is what I was reading when I spotted 10.04 at the top and not 18.04.1 | 10:04 |
| TafThorne1 | *18.04 | 10:05 |
| blackflow | Well that's wiki, I'm sure it'll get updated in time. | 10:05 |
| TafThorne1 | blackflow: thank you for your help and i appologise for wating your time with my mistake | 10:10 |
| blackflow | TafThorne1: you're welcome. | 10:12 |
| Haris | Do the desktop and server version(s) have different maintainer(s) for mod ruid2 for apache2 ? | 10:12 |
| blackflow | Haris: "desktop" and "server" differentiate only by the ISOs and what's initially installed. otherwise it's all one and the same Ubuntu package repository. Why do you ask? | 10:14 |
| Haris | mod ruid2 is not working on one 14.x install | 10:16 |
| Haris | 14.04.5 | 10:16 |
| blackflow | Haris: as you also crossposted to #ubuntu-server (and please don't do that), you can continue there, as it's more relevant to the server. | 10:16 |
| Haris | ok | 10:19 |
| Nomish | . | 10:28 |
| InHisName | Is there a web site that explains the timing sequences of UEFI booting. Like when is mdadm raid assembled, mounting of boot partition, reading mbr, displaying grub menu, etc. Overly detailed the better. | 10:36 |
| lotuspsychje | InHisName: perhaps if you explain your whole story, volunteers can try to think along? | 11:17 |
| guiverc | InHisName, web site; no. i do remember a blog that went into horrific depth (written after a dev created the debian/ubuntu/gnome/linux-kernel boot...) can't recall where I saw it as was year(s) ago; and I had no reason to use it (it was interesting though too detailed for me) | 11:19 |
| InHisName | In frustration I used the text above in a google search and stumbled on this general booting description - https://neosmart.net/wiki/mbr-boot-process/ Hmm, that site guiverc: mentions sounds interesting but might be a bit dated by now. | 11:22 |
| lotuspsychje | InHisName: what are you actually trying to do, can you share? | 11:23 |
| guiverc | InHisName, may have been 2-3 years ago, was much longer than what you found (I hoped I | 11:24 |
| guiverc | sorry; I hoped i'd better understand it if I printed; but would have used too much paper so didn't...) | 11:24 |
| guiverc | I think it was a pdf; but I may have saved it to pdf | 11:25 |
| JimBuntu | InHisName, https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/ | 11:37 |
| EriC^^ | j #linux | 11:43 |
| kiki67100 | Hello, it's possible to view windows 10 share from ubuntu smbclient ? I can view windows 8 share smbclient -g -L 192.168.168.168 -N not work for windows 10 | 11:56 |
| kiki67100 | I have version smbclient 4.5 | 11:56 |
| lotuspsychje | !samba | kiki67100 start here | 11:57 |
| ubottu | kiki67100 start here: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html | 11:57 |
| StucKman | anyone knows how to disable the zoom/pinch touchpad gesture in xorg/synaptics? It's driving me crazy | 11:57 |
| lotuspsychje | StucKman: is this usefull for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch | 12:02 |
| StucKman | lemmesee... | 12:02 |
| lotuspsychje | kiki67100: there is also a nice #samba channel if you like | 12:03 |
| StucKman | it seems like it's an application dependent gestre | 12:03 |
| lotuspsychje | StucKman: wich app is that | 12:03 |
| StucKman | firefox, in particular | 12:03 |
| StucKman | I hope no others | 12:03 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 12:03 |
| StucKman | so far it only bothers me when viewing a slippy map | 12:04 |
| kiki67100 | lotuspsychje: thanks i will try | 12:04 |
| lotuspsychje | StucKman: i think there are FF addons for that, perhaps ask in #firefox about it? | 12:04 |
| lotuspsychje | StucKman: unless you presume its really ubuntu related | 12:05 |
| StucKman | I found how to disable it in about:config, testing now | 12:05 |
| StucKman | I thought it was a synaptics issue | 12:05 |
| lotuspsychje | no sweat | 12:05 |
| StucKman | sorry for the noise | 12:05 |
| lotuspsychje | StucKman: good you were investigating | 12:05 |
| StucKman | in fact, when I asked it here, I realised that for some reason synaptic's man page didn't have an option | 12:06 |
| StucKman | lotuspsychje: going to #firefox now, thanks | 12:12 |
| saint__ | trying to install open stack from ubuntu freshly installed desktop. it asks for LXD. One page on the ubuntu website says to install it i need to use "snap install lxd" , another page says to use "apt instsall lxd" / is there a difference ? | 12:17 |
| lotuspsychje | saint__: snaps and packages from repos differ in package versions | 12:18 |
| saint__ | lotuspsychje .. :/ | 12:19 |
| lotuspsychje | saint__: that means, the user can choose wich lxd he wants/needs | 12:19 |
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| saint_ | lotuspsychje i need the one to open stack can run without yelling at me that lxd is not working correctly .. | 12:20 |
| lotuspsychje | saint__: well im no openstack expert, but wich ubuntu version and openstack do you have? | 12:21 |
| saint_ | lotuspsychje ubuntu 18.04 / and open stack .. well.. i need to intall lxd first . my first attempt was a failure because once installed, it saw that lxd was not installed. | 12:22 |
| Ool | saint_: if you apt install openstack, lxc-common lxd … are in the dependance list | 12:22 |
| saint_ | i m using this URL to install OpenStack https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack | 12:22 |
| lotuspsychje | !info lxd bionic | 12:22 |
| saint_ | they use snap, then conjure | 12:22 |
| ubottu | lxd (source: lxd): Container hypervisor based on LXC - daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.1-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 (bionic), package size 4867 kB, installed size 17366 kB (Only available for amd64; arm64; armhf; i386; ppc64el; s390x) | 12:22 |
| lotuspsychje | saint_: the snap version will give you 3.2 | 12:23 |
| lotuspsychje | saint_: you dont confuse that line with snapd? | 12:24 |
| lotuspsychje | saint_: it says you need snapd & lxd not the lxd snap | 12:24 |
| saint_ | lotuspsychje what page are you on ? | 12:26 |
| lotuspsychje | saint_: the page you sent url, requierments | 12:27 |
| lotuspsychje | saint_: Laptop, desktop or virtual machine with 16GB RAM, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, snapd and LXD installed | 12:28 |
| saint_ | yeah. so snapd is installed and used to install lxd | 12:29 |
| saint_ | but since lxd is not installed, i looked into the ubuntu www | 12:30 |
| saint_ | and i found 2 pages with different installs.. snap and apt | 12:30 |
| lotuspsychje | saint_: i would go for the official repo version.. | 12:33 |
| saint_ | lotuspsychje being ..? | 12:33 |
| lotuspsychje | saint_: scroll up, i triggered to you already | 12:33 |
| Anticom | Hi guys. I've just got a new vm from our admin but there's something wrong with the hdd's https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cjnnXJC432/ | 12:41 |
| Anticom | it's a ubuntu server so i can't use gparted's nice ui to work on the drives | 12:42 |
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| Anticom | i think sdb isn't mounted at all | 12:42 |
| Anticom | what's even more puzzling to me is that sda isn't used entirely | 12:43 |
| Anticom | I'm not quite sure what to do now | 12:44 |
| leonardus | why are my animations laggy like this? https://streamable.com/3okca | 12:46 |
| Anticom | As far as i can tell the / volume on sda is managed by lvm | 12:47 |
| Anticom | so it should be pretty straight forward to make it bigger. However i never worked with lvm before | 12:47 |
| Anticom | leonardus: doesn't look laggy to me | 12:48 |
| leonardus | are you sure? it looks like it could be much smoother | 12:50 |
| EriC^^ | !lvm | Anticom maybe this helps | 12:54 |
| ubottu | Anticom maybe this helps: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:58 |
| neverkas | Hi | 12:58 |
| kake | I have arch setup with lvm on luks. Is it possible to replace arch with ubuntu 18 without losing home directory? | 13:02 |
| EriC^^ | kake: back it up somewhere and then copy it over? | 13:04 |
| neverkas | Hi | 13:05 |
| kake | EriC^^: Does ubuntu installer support lvm on luks installation? | 13:07 |
| oerheks | kake using the home of an other linux, with all settings and config, really??? | 13:19 |
| Anticom | I used lvextend and lvs now shows that my volume is 20G. however df -h still says it's only 4G | 13:22 |
| Anticom | Is there a step i'm missing? I've rebooted the vm already to see whether this fixes it | 13:22 |
| deww | Anticom: you need to resize the fs too. | 13:24 |
| deww | Anticom: resize2fs if you're using ext4 | 13:25 |
| Anticom | deww: cheers | 13:36 |
| Piolodiusz | hello | 14:02 |
| BluesKaj | Anticom, your / (root) partition shows the actual size in the first column and "used" in the next and 4G seems quite small for an installed OS | 14:07 |
| beefjoe | do-release-upgrade shows no new releases ? | 14:08 |
| beefjoe | I have 16.04 | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | using df -h | 14:08 |
| ioria | beefjoe, chnge to 'normal' | 14:08 |
| beefjoe | what do you mean | 14:08 |
| beefjoe | ioria | 14:08 |
| ioria | beefjoe, /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | 14:09 |
| ioria | beefjoe, change Prompt from lts to normal | 14:10 |
| beefjoe | Thanks! | 14:12 |
| ioria | ok | 14:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | beefjoe: Note that you will now be on the non-LTS release schedule when you do that... simply switch it back for LTS again | 14:14 |
| beefjoe | sure | 14:15 |
| beefjoe | will do | 14:15 |
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| Cheez | hmm, should do-release-upgrade not offer me 18.04.1 now? | 14:20 |
| Cheez | is there a delay while it mirrors everywhere? I would have expected that to be done before launch | 14:20 |
| oerheks | Cheez, you could have read: set updates to normal | 14:23 |
| Cheez | yes i know, i have that | 14:24 |
| Cheez | oh, duh, proxy env not set | 14:25 |
| xjkx | Couldnt join #hardware, hope I can ask this here: you think a HD of 1TB is faster than one of 2TB? Being both 7200 rpm, and the 2TB has a buffer of 64mb and the 1tb has 32 mb...both are sata 3, I heard more disk space makes them slower, so i'm unsure | 14:25 |
| oerheks | xjkx, register, the error when you try to login, is clear | 14:26 |
| oerheks | !register | 14:26 |
| ubottu | For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. | 14:26 |
| oerheks | we don't do hardware, just technical ubuntu | 14:26 |
| xjkx | oh, sorry | 14:26 |
| oerheks | you will find most channels +R registered only, due to spammers | 14:27 |
| xjkx | I thought it was invited only, I just forgot to identify to nickserv, thanks :) | 14:27 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 14:27 |
| bezko | do-release-upgrade still not working for me, any tips? | 14:30 |
| ahi2 | change software update settings to update "any version" and then update again and then do-release-upgrade worked for me | 14:33 |
| pragmaticenigma | Just remember that changing to "any release" or updating the config to "normal" removes your machine from the LTS schedule. After upgrading, it would be a good idea to switch it back. | 14:35 |
| ahi2 | will do | 14:36 |
| bezko | that the point of waiting untill it's available | 14:43 |
| oerheks | yeah wait, and wait.. wait, it is there already :-D | 14:43 |
| padarc | hello ... just installed kubuntu like 1hour ago. I used the terminal to install transmission and libreoffice for example, they are installed in english, not my native language even though i set language settings etc correctly, so i had to install the l10n package too. I remember (k)ubuntu used to get my native language package too automatically. | 14:47 |
| padarc | Somebody has an idea how to fix this? | 14:48 |
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| thxffo | sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf is not working on 17.04... am i typing that correctly? | 15:16 |
| leftyfb | thxffo: 17.04 is EOL and no longer supported. Time to upgrade. 18.04.1 was just released yesterday | 15:18 |
| thxffo | that sucks | 15:18 |
| ryuo | thxffo: that's how it is for non-LTS releases. | 15:18 |
| infandum | How do I execute a command such that it return which g++ as /usr/bin/g++-8 (or any specific version I point it to)? | 15:19 |
| ryuo | only 9 months for regular ones. | 15:19 |
| infandum | CXX=/usr/bin/g++-8 would have CXX contain that value, but the program runs g++ | 15:19 |
| infandum | not CXX | 15:19 |
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| anderx | infandum: use update-alternatives | 15:24 |
| ryuo | Or, fix the program to respect CXX. | 15:25 |
| ryuo | either works. | 15:25 |
| beefjoe | Upgrading.. | 15:27 |
| * beefjoe excited | 15:27 | |
| ryuo | beefjoe: lol... upgrades are usually a source of stress. | 15:28 |
| beefjoe | I'm pretty sure something's gonna go wrong that's why I'm staying connected here xD | 15:30 |
| beefjoe | but it's still nice to upgrade, got nothing better to do hehe | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | upgrades are usually a source of relief for me :-) | 15:32 |
| infandum | anderx: Is it possible to have update-alternatives for JUST a user, no one else on the system? | 15:34 |
| ryuo | infandum: don't believe so. that effects the whole system. though you can setup your own symlinks in the user's own PATH directory. | 15:35 |
| ryuo | programs typically search all of PATH to resolve commands. | 15:35 |
| genii | If you want each user to have different defaults than system just put their local PATH before system PATH because first match wins | 15:36 |
| infandum | That's a good idea, I'll try that | 15:37 |
| leftyfb | infandum: you can also just use an alias | 15:37 |
| ryuo | leftyfb: that doesn't translate to build scripts really. i think that was the context of their problem. | 15:38 |
| === evilnewbie is now known as beaver | ||
| infandum | Yeah, it's for building | 15:41 |
| qwebirc45038 | Hello, I'm having problems booting into my new Ubuntu 18.04 install, is this the place to ask for advice? | 15:44 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc45038: yes, what's the problem? | 15:44 |
| qwebirc45038 | I'm getting stuck at a purple screen on start up. | 15:45 |
| qwebirc45038 | I got it to boot using the recovery mode, but I'm hoping to fix that issue so its a one click deal, as this will be my media server. | 15:46 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc45038: hold shift to get grub, press 'e' over ubuntu, go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz .....quiet splash and remove quiet splash and type verbose instead and press f10 to boot | 15:46 |
| EriC^^ | qwebirc45038: ah, then boot using verbose nomodeset , it's possibly a graphics driver issue then | 15:47 |
| EriC^^ | try sudo apt update && sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall after it's booted | 15:47 |
| qwebirc45038 | I was actually kind of surprised there weren't any driver issues. I'm repurposing an HP z230. | 15:48 |
| EriC^^ | ah | 15:50 |
| EriC^^ | *aha | 15:50 |
| cavillis | !ltsupgrade | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. | 16:01 |
| Brod8362 | hello | 16:04 |
| Chipm0nk | can anyone help me with this? preferred fastboot [./Linux/fastboot] does not exist | 16:05 |
| lotuspsychje | Brod8362: welcome to ubuntu support, what can we do for you? | 16:05 |
| Chipm0nk | lotuspsychje, ^ | 16:05 |
| Brod8362 | not much, i just came around to see what's going on in here, evidently not much though | 16:05 |
| Brod8362 | i'm pretty new to linux so i do think i'll end up using this chat sometime in the future though | 16:05 |
| lotuspsychje | Brod8362: this is not a chat, but support only | 16:06 |
| Chipm0nk | can anyone help me with this? preferred fastboot [./Linux/fastboot] does not exist | 16:06 |
| lotuspsychje | !patience | Chipm0nk | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Chipm0nk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 16:06 |
| leftyfb | Chipm0nk: what version of ubuntu are you running? | 16:07 |
| Chipm0nk | 18 | 16:07 |
| leftyfb | Chipm0nk: 18 is not a version of ubuntu | 16:07 |
| leftyfb | Chipm0nk: cat /etc/issue | 16:08 |
| Chipm0nk | ubuntu 18 | 16:08 |
| Chipm0nk | leftyfb, ubuntu 18.04 | 16:08 |
| nacc | Chipm0nk: where do you get that message? you gave zero context :) | 16:08 |
| leftyfb | Chipm0nk: and when exactly do you see this error? | 16:08 |
| Chipm0nk | https://pastebin.com/U5WQgqvJ | 16:09 |
| Chipm0nk | trying to recover my e4 plus because windows sucks. | 16:09 |
| leftyfb | Chipm0nk: that's not an Ubuntu issue | 16:09 |
| nacc | Chipm0nk: also, that's not an error. | 16:09 |
| Chipm0nk | yes it is. | 16:09 |
| leftyfb | Chipm0nk: you should try support from the Android dev community | 16:09 |
| nacc | Chipm0nk: if you dont' know what that script does, you should probably not be running the script. | 16:09 |
| Chipm0nk | nacc, like I said, I'm trying to recover my e4 plus. | 16:10 |
| oerheks | Chipm0nk, so your issue is that hwflash.sh package, we don't know about | 16:10 |
| Chipm0nk | the script won't run on UBUNTU | 16:10 |
| oerheks | not an ubuntu issue, ask the script maker? | 16:10 |
| leftyfb | Chipm0nk: ok, contact the script developer | 16:10 |
| nacc | Chipm0nk: it is running fine; what it does, doesn't work, so that's the script's owner's issue | 16:10 |
| nacc | danieru98: sorry, was afk -- yes it's typical, the bug is probably how you will get a response | 16:11 |
| danieru98 | nacc, great, thanks | 16:12 |
| thegeekbong | Hi, I have done a clean install of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, previously I was using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, running on dual-boot with Windows 10, after installation I am facing this issue where the dedicated numeric pad(on the right of a keyboard) of my laptop is not working even when the NumLock is on.(never encountered this with Ubuntu 16.04 and also the numeric keypad is working fine in Windows 10) I have searched askubuntu.com and DuckDuckGo-ed it also but | 16:15 |
| thegeekbong | still haven't found any article which can rectify the issue. Please if anyone can help I'll be grateful. Thanks in advance. :) | 16:15 |
| oerheks | thegeekbong, mind to share what laptop exactly? | 16:16 |
| Prestige | I had a weird issue with my keyboard, rebooting fixed it. If that doesn't work maybe it's just a driver issue? | 16:16 |
| lotuspsychje | thegeekbong: did you add the right keyboard layout? | 16:16 |
| danieru98 | nacc, yes, they just sent me a message asking me to test this with the latest linux mainline 4.18. Can i use Ukuu Kernel Update Utility for that? or i'll have to follow the steps on their wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds | 16:16 |
| nacc | danieru98: the wiki instructions | 16:17 |
| thegeekbong | oerheks, I'm using HP 15-ac173TU notebook | 16:17 |
| danieru98 | nacc, fak no easy path lol, alright then | 16:17 |
| thegeekbong | lotuspsychje, yes, I selected the English(US) keyboard layout | 16:18 |
| nacc | danieru98: yeah, sorry; testing a kernel for that team is typically necessary, but it's a one-off kind of step (usually it helps determine if a further backport would fix it, etc) | 16:19 |
| madmangun | I'm using ukuu. Works fine. A few issues when upgrading the kernel with my gtx1070m nvidia open source drivers. Found easy work around for that issue. Kernel 4.18 is running fine on my Alienware M17r4 | 16:20 |
| ioria | thegeekbong, happed to me when i selected 'control pointer with the keyboard' in Universal Access ; it disablethe numeric pad | 16:22 |
| nacc | danieru98: tbh, i've never used ukuu; so you could try it, i suppose :) | 16:22 |
| madmangun | ukuu - https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/ukuu-easy-way-to-install-mainline-kernel-ubuntu | 16:23 |
| leftyfb | madmangun: 4.18 is still in RC. It's not supported anywhere. | 16:23 |
| ioria | thegeekbong, happened to me when i selected 'control pointer with the keyboard' in Universal Access ; it disables the numeric pad | 16:23 |
| danieru98 | nacc, the message send me a link to the wiki, wo i guess i'll better do it that way rather than test it with ukuu just to have them ask me to do it as the wiki said | 16:24 |
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| nacc | danieru98: ack | 16:24 |
| new_gen | my screen is flicekring constantly . can't figure out why it is happeing. I am running Ubunut 18.04 LTS | 16:24 |
| thegeekbong | ioria, I don't have that option in my Universal Access. | 16:24 |
| danieru98 | leftyfb, i thought ukuu had an option for downliading RC kernels | 16:24 |
| leftyfb | danieru98: it does. That doesn't mean those kernels are supported here. | 16:25 |
| ioria | thegeekbong, it should... look for'control pinter with keyboard' then or similar | 16:25 |
| mustmodify_ | If I delete a user using deluser, will their cron jobs go away? | 16:25 |
| thegeekbong | ioria, looking, please give me a min | 16:25 |
| leftyfb | The 4.18 kernel is still in -rc6 | 16:25 |
| oerheks | mustmodify_, can you still login as that user? | 16:26 |
| oerheks | if no, you have your answer | 16:26 |
| mustmodify_ | how is cron related to being able to login? I mean, yes or no is there an account I guess... | 16:26 |
| mustmodify_ | but it seems like cron could run without a user account if it chose to. | 16:26 |
| mustmodify_ | I could be wrong. | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | mustmodify_: it's an easy test to try out | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | mustmodify_: regardless, even if the cron still exists, it won't run properly since the user it tries to run as doesn't exist | 16:28 |
| oerheks | you stated "their cron jobs" | 16:28 |
| mustmodify_ | k I'll give it a shot. So you're saying if I can't login then I don't have to worry about stray cron jobs. | 16:28 |
| oerheks | not the general ones | 16:28 |
| mustmodify_ | right. | 16:28 |
| mustmodify_ | ok thanks. | 16:28 |
| new_gen | my screen is flicekring constantly sometimes, usually flickering stops couple of minutes after booting up. can't figure out why it is happeing. I am running Ubunut 18.04 LTS.Need assistance to fix it | 16:28 |
| oerheks | maybe the lines are not deleted, but will never be called with that usedID | 16:28 |
| thegeekbong | ioria, Yes, in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS it is as Mouse Keys. It was switched on. Thank you so much. :) | 16:28 |
| ioria | thegeekbong, ok, no prob | 16:29 |
| Galaxor | So, whenever I do an apt-get upgrade, it tries to install a bunch of packages that have icons. When it gets to "processing triggers for" these packages, it pops up a large herd of gui dialogs about importing xpm bitmaps. So many that it is basically impossible to upgrade my system anymore. How do I stop this? | 16:32 |
| Galaxor | Ubuntu 16.04. | 16:32 |
| UserUS | Galaxor, have you tried to force it? | 16:33 |
| Galaxor | UserUS: Like, apt-get upgrade --force ? | 16:33 |
| ioria | gui dialogs with the terminal cmd apt-get upgrade ? | 16:34 |
| Galaxor | ioria: Yep! | 16:34 |
| ioria | Galaxor, we 'd love to see one | 16:35 |
| lotuspsychje | ioria: :p | 16:36 |
| UserUS | Galaxor, yes | 16:36 |
| Galaxor | http://iheartryan.com/xpm-dialog.png | 16:40 |
| Galaxor | Hmm, maybe this is caused by something within the package it's installing -- qubes-core-agent. | 16:40 |
| nacc | Galaxor: not an ubuntu package. | 16:40 |
| nacc | Galaxor: so they can violate policy all they want | 16:41 |
| ioria | Galaxor, and it's --configure -a not apt upgrade | 16:41 |
| Galaxor | ioria: Right. Yeah, I killed it during the upgrade because it was doing this. | 16:41 |
| ioria | i see | 16:41 |
| Galaxor | Okay, I'll go bug qubes about this. | 16:42 |
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| Galaxor | Thanks. | 16:42 |
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| ioria | Galaxor, but nacc is right,it's not an ubuntu pkg | 16:43 |
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| H7R | test | 16:54 |
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| SpeedrunnerG55 | Hi I can’t get to my login screen | 17:10 |
| Stochastix_ | if I did sysncfs /mnt/mydrive , would that be a proper file descriptor ? Also, I cant do that with sync() right? If I want to sysnc only one drive, I need to do it like my first example correct? | 17:13 |
| nacc | Stochastix_: well, syncfs is an API. A filesystem path is not a file descriptor. | 17:14 |
| nacc | Stochastix_: for syncfs, you pick a file on the filesystem you want sync'd. | 17:15 |
| nacc | Stochastix_: also, filesystem != drive. | 17:16 |
| Stochastix_ | is there another way to sync only one filesystem without knowing the name of any particular files? | 17:16 |
| Stochastix_ | nacc, I know a fs is not the drive. The reason im asking what I am in my first question is that I saw an example where they used a mount point as a parameter sent to syncfs | 17:17 |
| Stochastix_ | but the man says to use a fd | 17:18 |
| Stochastix_ | But im still hoping there is a way to sync only one filesystem, rather than all of them with the sync command | 17:19 |
| H7R | Stochastix_ a FD on linux is /dev/sdXX | 17:19 |
| H7R | for a drivve | 17:19 |
| H7R | drive | 17:19 |
| H7R | something like /dev/sda for a drive and /dev/sda1 for a partition filesystem | 17:20 |
| nacc | H7R: i don't know what you're talking about. | 17:21 |
| nacc | Stochastix_: link to example? | 17:21 |
| H7R | nacc in linux all is file even filesystems and drives ! /dev/sda mean about the 1rst hdd and /dev/sda1 mean about the first file system on the first drive ! | 17:23 |
| nacc | Stochastix_: you don't need to know the name of a file on a given mountpoint, to find a file in it | 17:23 |
| nacc | H7R: none of those are FDs = File Descriptors. | 17:24 |
| nacc | H7R: those are files (special ones), as you say. | 17:24 |
| nacc | Stochastix_: also, what exactly are you trying to solve? :) | 17:24 |
| H7R | /dev/sda is the file to access the first hdd ! | 17:24 |
| nacc | H7R: please stop. | 17:25 |
| nacc | H7R: that is not relevant in any way to this discussion. | 17:25 |
| H7R | nacc I just try to help ! | 17:25 |
| oerheks | he is talking about hard and softlinks in a filesystem, look at it virtual, not metal | 17:26 |
| H7R | oerheks : don't understand ! | 17:26 |
| nacc | H7R: there is no need for so many exclamation points. You were not being helpful in this case. | 17:26 |
| oerheks | H7R, it could be raid or lvm, so the data can be on any disk | 17:27 |
| EriC^^ | Stochastix_: what do you know about the filesystem? | 17:27 |
| EriC^^ | Stochastix_: i mean you want to use just 'sync /dev/sda1' for instance? that's all you know is the block device file? | 17:27 |
| H7R | nacc : shit of this fucking syntax ! i do it without thinking, it's like a reflex with me ... | 17:28 |
| lotuspsychje | !language | H7R | 17:28 |
| ubottu | H7R: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 17:28 |
| oerheks | H7R, your fine, don't feel offended | 17:28 |
| H7R | ubottu with you any punctuation sign is agressive ! | 17:28 |
| oerheks | well, Mark said: keep the channel family friendly | 17:29 |
| H7R | yep ! | 17:29 |
| H7R | are you human or computers ? can't you be flexible about "!" marks ? | 17:30 |
| nacc | H7R: it was just a suggestion, relax. | 17:30 |
| oerheks | tell us more about the filesystem | 17:30 |
| H7R | nacc no because (you are computer)?I'll talk C++, I'll speak human; | 17:31 |
| nacc | H7R: ok, I'm putting you in my ignore, have a nice day. | 17:32 |
| H7R | okay ! | 17:32 |
| Stochastix_ | EriC^^, Its a temp transfer drive mounted under /mnt/xfer, after writing stuff to it, I just wanted to sync before umount in a script | 17:32 |
| Stochastix_ | But I thought there may be a good way to sync only that drive rather then calling sync for the whole system | 17:32 |
| hggdh | H7R: please calm down. Being aggressive does not produce any good results | 17:33 |
| nacc | Stochastix_: you could mount it sync, as well | 17:33 |
| H7R | whois nacc | 17:33 |
| Stochastix_ | Or I should say, call sync, only for that one filesystem on that one partition, on that drive | 17:33 |
| EriC^^ | Stochastix_: sync /mountpoint might potentially work, you could try to strace it to see if its just syncing that one fs | 17:33 |
| EriC^^ | Stochastix_: indeed it seems that sync /boot/efi only syncs /boot/efi | 17:35 |
| nacc | EriC^^: does it end up calling syncfs? | 17:36 |
| Stochastix_ | oh, thanks EriC^^ | 17:36 |
| EriC^^ | nacc: nope, it uses fsync() | 17:36 |
| nacc | EriC^^: ah ok | 17:36 |
| EriC^^ | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B53v8FX4Yg/ | 17:36 |
| EriC^^ | Stochastix_: no problem | 17:38 |
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| neverkas` | asd | 17:40 |
| neverkas` | hi | 17:40 |
| neverkas` | I've a question about update my ubuntu | 17:41 |
| nacc | neverkas`: ask away | 17:41 |
| neverkas` | I've Ubuntu 14 and I'd like to update it. My question I won't lose all my information that I've? | 17:42 |
| EriC^^ | neverkas`: no | 17:43 |
| nacc | neverkas`: 14.04, you mean? no, you should not; but you also should have backups before large upgrades of any data you do care about | 17:43 |
| leftyfb | neverkas`: Always have backups unless the data is only temporary or unimportant | 17:44 |
| neverkas` | mm | 17:44 |
| neverkas` | How can I do that? I mean a backup. | 17:45 |
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| EriC^^ | neverkas`: get an external hdd and copy/paste your stuff | 17:45 |
| leftyfb | neverkas`: there's countless solutions. Ubuntu comes with one called Dejavu. | 17:46 |
| oerheks | neverkas`, if you don't have a backup already, your data is not important | 17:46 |
| neverkas` | Ahh ok I'll find out about Dejavu | 17:50 |
| danieru98 | How do i add a tag to a bug report on bugs.launchpad.net? | 17:50 |
| neverkas` | yes it's important for me what I've on the system e.e but I don't usually use linux all time. | 17:50 |
| lotuspsychje | neverkas`: making a backup is not Os related | 17:51 |
| danieru98 | nvm i found it | 17:52 |
| FreeBDSM | someone, please, help me understand what's happening. https://paste.ee/p/stf6L I did `apt autoremove; apt install xpra` and it lists a list of packages for autoremove. I do `apt autoremove` again and there's nothing! looks like apt/apt-get's database is broken. This is core functionality of an OS, what. the. hell?? | 18:27 |
| FreeBDSM | also, I did `apt-get install --install-suggests winehq-staging` and it deleted me some packages, including `xpra`! what the hell? | 18:27 |
| nacc | FreeBDSM: I *think* it's because of what you are installing | 18:29 |
| nacc | FreeBDSM: you are removing a bunch of i386 pacakges, which makes other packages removable | 18:30 |
| nacc | FreeBDSM: don't know about the latter comment, maybe pastebin the terminal.log or somethhing | 18:30 |
| nacc | FreeBDSM: winehq-staging isn't an ubuntu package, though, so it's probably something in that | 18:30 |
| oerheks | What is Wine Staging? Wine Staging is the testing area of winehq.org. It contains bug | 18:32 |
| oerheks | s fixes | 18:32 |
| oerheks | good luck there | 18:32 |
| FreeBDSM | how installing X may result into uninstalling Y? | 18:34 |
| FreeBDSM | this makes no sense to me, unless X asks for dep Z which needs to replace Y (and thus Y has to be removed first) | 18:35 |
| oerheks | mind the i386 and the full 64 bit packages, that makes it double interesting | 18:36 |
| ioria | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xpra/+bug/1691025 | 18:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1691025 in xpra (Ubuntu) "Installing xpra on HWE-enabled LTS breaks system" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:40 |
| neverkas | Asd | 18:52 |
| neverkas | Hi H7R | 18:53 |
| nacc | FreeBDSM: yes, it's possible that is the case, you didn't say it was or wasn't | 18:57 |
| nacc | FreeBDSM: urgh, and xpra is python < 2.8 only? i'd just not use it | 18:58 |
| nacc | ioria: nice fine, no one ever replied to my comment :) | 19:00 |
| ioria | nacc, yup | 19:00 |
| nacc | FreeBDSM: you can also have conflicting dependencies, an; what it looks like in your case is python 64-bit and python 32-bit | 19:01 |
| booh | is it possible to install java10 on ubuntu 16.04 (32bits) ? | 19:02 |
| oerheks | openjdk10 is EOL and xenial gives 8? | 19:07 |
| oerheks | https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial-updates&keywords=openjdk | 19:07 |
| tomreyn | i think 8 is considered some kind of LTS | 19:08 |
| tomreyn | (while 10 is not) | 19:08 |
| ioria | yep,ts public support will end next September | 19:09 |
| pragmaticenigma | java 10 was just released... how is it end of life? | 19:12 |
| FreeBDSM | nacc: ok, what do I do? | 19:13 |
| ryuo | pragmaticenigma: oracle changed how they support newer java releases. | 19:13 |
| havenstance | http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html | 19:14 |
| ioria | pragmaticenigma, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history | 19:14 |
| ryuo | pragmaticenigma: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html | 19:14 |
| oerheks | i did not refer to the oracle blob | 19:16 |
| binaryhermit | I'm curious, ts? | 19:16 |
| ioria | typo | 19:17 |
| binaryhermit | oh | 19:17 |
| booh | Ok so... I will try to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04. At apt upgrade I have a message: python-enum : Conflicts: python-enum34 but 1.1.2-1 is to be installed | 19:17 |
| binaryhermit | I figured that was likely the thing | 19:17 |
| ioria | !info python-enum | 19:18 |
| ubottu | Package python-enum does not exist in bionic | 19:18 |
| ioria | !info python-enum xenial | 19:18 |
| ubottu | python-enum (source: python-enum): robust enumerated type support in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-3 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 42 kB | 19:18 |
| ioria | booh, i'd say remove it | 19:18 |
| neverkas1 | H7n | 19:18 |
| H7R | yep | 19:19 |
| H7R | need to diner... | 19:19 |
| ioria | booh, it needs python-enum34 | 19:19 |
| booh | thanks. I'm not used to python... I've done it. Seems to be good. | 19:19 |
| booh | release upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 should be ok? | 19:20 |
| ioria | booh, i did it without issues | 19:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | ioria: python-enum is available in 18.04, however, I think it's name changed since Python 3.x is default and python-enum is only a Python 2.x library. Python 3 supports enum natively | 19:21 |
| ioria | pragmaticenigma, yes, probably but the specific pkg not in the repo | 19:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | yeah, they backported python 3.x enum library to python 2 ... installs under the package python-enum34 | 19:23 |
| ioria | yep | 19:23 |
| booh | do-release-upgrade give me no new release.. | 19:24 |
| booh | ok I use -d | 19:27 |
| booh | after upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, should I switch from unity to gnome? Or maybe I don't have this choice too... don't know what to do. | 19:29 |
| padarc | booh: unity is basically now a modified gnome. You can ofc also use the "normal gnome" | 19:30 |
| padarc | cant tell you what you like more though ... i hate both and use kde :P | 19:30 |
| ioria | booh, in theory, unity it's still in the bionic repo and should wotk with gdm3 | 19:31 |
| ioria | *work | 19:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | I believe the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 will continue to use Unity... though I'm not 100% certain on that | 19:31 |
| booh | Ok I try :) I'll see... | 19:31 |
| oerheks | !find unitydesktop | 19:32 |
| ubottu | Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 230 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=unitydesktop&searchon=names&suite=bionic§ion=all | 19:32 |
| beaver | ^^ | 19:32 |
| ioria | !info unity | 19:32 |
| ubottu | unity (source: unity): Interface designed for efficiency of space and interaction.. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.0+18.04.20180413-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 1748 kB, installed size 6808 kB | 19:32 |
| pragmaticenigma | I too have gone to KDE as my primary DE. I find it fits my desired usage cases better. | 19:33 |
| ioria | booh, if you face issues using unity,try to install unity-session | 19:34 |
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| ryuo | booh: there's also MATE flavor. it has a unity clone mode of sorts. | 19:36 |
| ioria | ryuo, really ? package name ? | 19:36 |
| Furai | Are core dumps automatically collected in latest bionic beaver? | 19:37 |
| ryuo | ioria: it's part of default mate package set for Ubuntu Mate. | 19:37 |
| ioria | ryuo, i see | 19:37 |
| ryuo | ioria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bcf03kUn-c | 19:37 |
| ioria | munity, yes | 19:38 |
| oerheks | !info ubuntu-unity-desktop | 19:41 |
| ubottu | ubuntu-unity-desktop (source: ubuntu-unity-meta): The Ubuntu Unity desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 8 kB (Only available for amd64; arm64; armhf; i386; ppc64el) | 19:41 |
| oerheks | it is still here, and mir8 is in progress | 19:41 |
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| apetresc | I have Unity installed and Bluetooth works perfectly there using the built-in system settings panel. When I'm in i3 instead of Unity, is it possible to still use this panel to connect/disconnect bluetooth devices? If so, what's it called? I can't find it in my drun menu | 20:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | apetresc: are you referring to managing bluetooth from the "System Settings" application found in the launcher or the are you using the Applet in the top menu bar of the desktop? | 20:04 |
| apetresc | pragmaticenigma: I guess I thought they were the same thing (as in, both interfacing with the same backend). Both work fine in Unity and I'd be fine with either one in i3 | 20:05 |
| apetresc | I don't know how to get to either one from i3 though | 20:06 |
| pragmaticenigma | apetresc: If you are running Ubuntu 16.04, try "unity-control-center" ... if you are running 17.10 or 18.04, try "gnome-control-center" | 20:06 |
| pragmaticenigma | apetresc: Here is the information I was able to find: https://askubuntu.com/a/116659 | 20:06 |
| apetresc | Ah, thanks | 20:07 |
| apetresc | Does it need to be run as a certain user or something? | 20:07 |
| apetresc | Because it comes up with a blank sidebar in i3 | 20:07 |
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| pragmaticenigma | apetresc: I don't believe it would be certain user... it might be looking for a compistor or specific feature of unity's window manager for display that isn't available in i3 | 20:10 |
| danieru98 | nacc, aside from testing linux 4.18rc6 to confirm the bug is still present as i was requested, i tested linux 4.15 RC versions and i found linux 4.15rc4 is the first version where this bug im having occurs. Any ideas what could i do to further debug this? | 20:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | apetresc: I believe that system settings is providing an interface to blueman... though I'm not too familiar with bluetooth in Linux | 20:13 |
| hggdh | danieru98: you bisect the kernel. You know the bug is between 4.15 RC and the previous dev release. You can get more details and help at #ubuntu-kernel | 20:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | i'm not sure what more to suggest... google searches for me are leading towards manage bluetooth in Unity then switch to i3 | 20:13 |
| causasui | mkfs.ext4 on a 600gb gpt partition i just created gives `/dev/sda2 contains '5View capture file' data Proceed anyway?` what is that, is it a problem? | 20:14 |
| danieru98 | hggdh, thanks | 20:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | causasui: was that drive being used for network packet capture, or other sys admin purposes where log files, video data, or other data would have been logging to? | 20:16 |
| causasui | It is a drive usually intended for that purpose but I am just backing up some data on it | 20:17 |
| nacc | danieru98: that's probably great info for the bug; beyond that yo'd need to do a git bisect to get any more info | 20:18 |
| danieru98 | nacc, sounds like lots of recompiles of the kernel, im glad i forced myself to learn the basics when i used gentoo. And they said using gentoo for one year was useless lol | 20:22 |
| causasui | pragmaticenigma: any suggestions? | 20:23 |
| pragmaticenigma | causasui: I would verify that nothing is currently still configured to use that drive as a log destination. If nothing is there, and all the data on there is accounted for (meaning you've verified you don't care about it) you could proceed | 20:25 |
| mmazing | i cannot for the life of me get my ethernet port to work on this 18.04 lubuntu install, i was having the same issues with my laptop (they use the same chipset Realtek 8168) and fixed it on my laptop but the same steps haven't worked on this desktop | 20:29 |
| mmazing | anyone have some ideas for troubleshooting? | 20:29 |
| ryuo | mmazing: and what did you try? | 20:29 |
| oerheks | and what fix was that? | 20:29 |
| mmazing | installed r8168-dkms | 20:29 |
| oerheks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/r8168-dkms | 20:30 |
| mmazing | yeah, it's installed and ethtool shows the port using r8168 instead of r8169 (r8169 causes issues so it's blacklisted) | 20:30 |
| xjkx | Can I tell Ubuntu what sata HD I want to have as sda or sdb, or is it like the sata port that does it? | 20:31 |
| oerheks | it is hardware based detection indeed, xjkx, there might be a blogpost howto change that, but i would not use that seriously | 20:32 |
| geirha | xjkx: Instead you can use uuid or label. ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | 20:33 |
| ryuo | xjkx: why does it matter? | 20:33 |
| ryuo | xjkx: if it's for installation, the installer's guided mode lets you choose which drive to install to. | 20:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | xjkx: that is typically assigned by the kernel. It may coincidentally match the SATA ports on the motherboard, but that is not certain. | 20:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | xjkx: If you are trying to mount or manually address a drive, it is best to find out what it's uuid is and access via the path geirha recommended | 20:35 |
| ryuo | UUIDs... don't map to the actual drive. Usually a FS. | 20:36 |
| xjkx | I mean, way before, when I had two HDs, it was sometimes sda and sometimes sdb, that is my worry, because I want it to at least have the same name every time, so I dont confuse it and end up erasing what I shouldnt, if the kernel is picking it then fine, as long as tomorrow sda will still be sda | 20:36 |
| ryuo | xjkx: in that case, you want to use the unique identifiers for the given drive. | 20:36 |
| ryuo | For the actual drive, it's the stuff under /dev/disk/by-id | 20:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | xjkx: From the kernel documentation, the /dev/sd@# is not promised, to ensure you accessing the intended device use the UUID | 20:37 |
| oerheks | sme name? | 20:37 |
| ryuo | if it's for the actual filesystem, then you'd want the UUID stuff. | 20:37 |
| mmazing | i've purged/reinstalled r8168-dkms and no dice, any ideas? | 20:37 |
| oerheks | no idea about that r8169 remark, no | 20:38 |
| xjkx | So...like mkfs.ext4 /dev/disk/The-UUid12 for partition 12? | 20:39 |
| ryuo | No. | 20:39 |
| mmazing | r8169 is the default module that comes with ubuntu that applies to realtek chipsets but doesn't work for mine, there's several guides out there how to fix it and i can't really see anything wrong right now except the port does nothing | 20:39 |
| ryuo | UUIDs only work if the FS is already created. | 20:39 |
| mmazing | trying to figure out other avenues to debug what is going wrong with it | 20:39 |
| ryuo | xjkx: something like: /dev/disk/XXXXX-part12 | 20:39 |
| ryuo | err | 20:39 |
| ryuo | xjkx: something like: /dev/disk/by-id/XXXXX-part12 | 20:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | xjkx: what exactly are you attempting to do... I don't believe you have provided enough information for anyone to give you an accurate answer | 20:40 |
| xjkx | pragmaticenigma: I just dont want to accidentally erase sdb12 thinking it was sda12 ^^ I'm just not trusting myself, lol, it is that I get used to /dev/sda being my system and /dev/sdb my backup drive, and eventually delete one thinking to be the other, but that's ok I'll get used to uuid I guess | 20:44 |
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| person_ | Is it worth it right now to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.1 lts? | 21:04 |
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| saint_ | anyone installed openstack by any chance, from scratch ? | 21:04 |
| saint_ | just did it, but it won't connect to the http interface. | 21:04 |
| saint_ | it looks like there is no service listening on port 80 .. :/ | 21:05 |
| saint_ | the openstack documentation does not talk about installing a web server .. | 21:05 |
| saint_ | any input welcome :) | 21:05 |
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| nacc | saint_: you probalby want #ubuntu-server or #openstack, if you aren't using the ubuntu cloud archive pacakges | 21:07 |
| oerheks | this might be a netplan issue | 21:07 |
| nacc | oerheks: it's possible, but i'd find that surprising; they installed openstack in the first place, so i assume they have networking; anything above that is not netplan | 21:09 |
| saint_ | netstat -nap|grep 80 does not show anything listening on http, so netplan is out | 21:10 |
| saint_ | www service is not up | 21:11 |
| saint_ | *but* openstack doc does not talk about this in the requirements | 21:11 |
| saint_ | so i assumed it would check / install nginx / apache by itself | 21:11 |
| nacc | saint_: what was "it" in the second sentence? | 21:11 |
| nacc | saint_: also, really not an ubuntu support topic if from the upstream src | 21:11 |
| saint_ | they are all sleeping on #openstack. though i'd have more chance here | 21:12 |
| saint_ | nacc "it" was "i just installed it | 21:12 |
| man_yo | saint .. it's netstat -nap | grep 80 | 21:14 |
| saint_ | man_yo ? | 21:14 |
| nacc | saint_: it's not ubuntu packages or anything with ubuntu, sorry. | 21:15 |
| nacc | saint_: "it won't connect to the http interface" | 21:15 |
| saint_ | nacc sorry. it, being my browser or a telnet on the machine on port 80 .. | 21:16 |
| nacc | saint_: what does that have to do with openstack? | 21:16 |
| nacc | saint_: it sounds like *you* are expecting a browser, not openstack; in any case, your question seems misworded, and this is the wrong place :) | 21:16 |
| saint_ | nacc openstack offers a WWW interface ("Horizon"). I thought it (the www server) would be installed by default | 21:17 |
| man_yo | saint your command is not exact | 21:17 |
| saint_ | man_yo how it is not ? | 21:17 |
| illuminated | I'm using mkfs.ext4 to format a 200 GB iscsi disk.. it's on the step of Creating journal (262144 blocks): | 21:18 |
| illuminated | and it's been doing it for like 30 minutes. Is this normal or abnormal? | 21:18 |
| saint_ | s/is it/ | 21:18 |
| nacc | saint_: https://docs.openstack.org/horizon/latest/install/install-ubuntu.html says us a package, and that package depends on apache2. | 21:18 |
| saint_ | nacc good point. i based myself on the https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack documentation | 21:19 |
| nacc | saint_: https://docs.openstack.org/horizon/latest/install/from-source.html says if doing from src, "Deployment:" install apache2. | 21:19 |
| saint_ | which is obviously incomplete regarding the requirements .. | 21:19 |
| nacc | saint_: so you used conjure-up? | 21:19 |
| saint_ | nacc thanks for being my 2nd pair of eyes. | 21:19 |
| saint_ | nacc yes | 21:19 |
| nacc | saint_: uh. | 21:19 |
| nacc | saint_: that's *not* from scratch | 21:20 |
| nacc | saint_: that's ... using conjure-up | 21:20 |
| nacc | saint_: if you use conjure-up, i think there's an irc channel for it, or you want #ubuntu-server. | 21:20 |
| saint_ | nacc i will check it out. thanks a ton for the help | 21:20 |
| nacc | saint_: yw | 21:20 |
| man_yo | saint you must put a space in this command ..... netstat -anp | grep 80 | 21:21 |
| BlunderButt | Howdy. New to IRC. Just upgraded Ubuntu from 17.10 to 1804 on relatively new (to me) Motherboard. My integral Ethernet chip, RTL8111E, seems not to be found. Any suggestions? | 21:22 |
| nacc | man_yo: there were spaces in their command. | 21:22 |
| saint_ | nacc grep does not need space. | 21:23 |
| saint_ | netstat -nap|grep 80 or netstat -nap | grep 80 gives the same result | 21:24 |
| nacc | saint_: yes, you're right, i saw their paste as yours; in any case, your comand was/is fine, and man_yo is incorrect | 21:24 |
| man_yo | it's correct for me.. i just test it | 21:26 |
| nacc | man_yo: spaces are not necessary. Your command and saint_'s are functionally the same. | 21:28 |
| man_yo | ok | 21:30 |
| edarfoc | hi guys! :) | 21:40 |
| edarfoc | are you able to search in the file dialogue? | 21:41 |
| edarfoc | it fails here, it only searches for the first letter | 21:41 |
| edarfoc | with the rest you write, it tries to replicate the old type ahead behaviour | 21:41 |
| yukip | i miss gnome 2 too | 22:23 |
| yukip | used to be able to type in nautilus and it would highlight the folder, no need to to a full blown search | 22:26 |
| yukip | to do* | 22:26 |
| yukip | much faster | 22:26 |
| ffejj | howdy folks... i have a snap application with a lot of *.desktop files in its common/app-data/applications directory- how can i set that directory where the ubuntu mate desktop menu will see it ? | 22:27 |
| nacc | ffejj: you may want to ask in #snappy | 22:27 |
| ffejj | ok, done (but plz if anyone knows say something here too haha) | 22:29 |
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| brainwash | ffejj: copy them over to ~/.local/share/applications, or create symlinks | 22:31 |
| ffejj | brainwash: yes... but.. when a new .desktop file is created, i would like for it to be added to the menu too :) | 22:32 |
| oerheks | why would mate not see them? | 22:32 |
| ffejj | idk is there a way to tell mate which directories to read .desktop from? | 22:32 |
| oerheks | .. why would a snap suddenly create a desktop file.. | 22:37 |
| ffejj | because it's an android emulator and it makes .desktops of installed apks | 22:37 |
| monsune | hello, i'm root and when trying to mkdir xyz i get: mkdir: cannot create directory ‘xyz’: Operation not permitted, i'm puzzled with this, how should i proceed to find out what's wrong in there? | 22:39 |
| nacc | ffejj: i think applications/ supports subdirs | 22:41 |
| ffejj | nacc: it seems like i have already tried that but i will double check. | 22:41 |
| nacc | ffejj: did you try just making a symlink from ~/.local/share/applications/<dirname> -> ~/snap/common/app-data/applications ? | 22:41 |
| nacc | ffejj: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s02.html based upon the example for /usr/share/applications | 22:42 |
| nacc | oh youc an also aparently add it toXDG_DATA_DIRS? | 22:42 |
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| ffejj | yeah, i was just investigating XDG_DATA_DIRS | 22:43 |
| yukip | so do snaps include all the resources? | 22:43 |
| nacc | yukip: depending on what you mean by resources, yes | 22:46 |
| nacc | yukip: snaps ships all their dependencies in the snap, generally speaking | 22:47 |
| yukip | ok | 22:48 |
| jacks_ | hi, i've configured manual link-local addresses in netplan but the auto generated EUI-64 link-local addresses are still being added, i've disabled autoconf and set accept-ra to no, any ideas? | 22:49 |
| jetgirl | h | 22:49 |
| jetgirl | hi | 22:49 |
| ryuo | jacks_: disable link-local addressing? | 22:50 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: that would break ipv6 | 22:51 |
| ryuo | jacks_: you are using networkd as the backend? | 22:51 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: i'm using netplan | 22:52 |
| ryuo | jacks_: yes, but it has to be rendering to another network configuration system. | 22:52 |
| ryuo | that's networkd or NetworkManager. | 22:52 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: yeah netplan. | 22:53 |
| ryuo | what's your renderer line then? | 22:53 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: there isn't one - what's it used for? | 22:53 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: oh i see what you mean, its systemd-networkd | 22:55 |
| ryuo | jacks_: accept-ra won't effect LL stuff because that's independent of RAs... | 22:56 |
| ryuo | jacks_: only way I know of is to disable LLA entirely and rely upon your static configured ones. | 22:56 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: how does one do that ? | 22:57 |
| ryuo | jacks_: because the kernel will automatically generate one. | 22:57 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: right, i thought it was from the advertisement | 22:57 |
| ryuo | jacks_: yes... that only applies to RA prefixes. | 22:57 |
| jacks_ | ok | 22:57 |
| ryuo | Hm | 22:58 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: then i would have thought disabling autoconf in sysctl would disable that? | 22:58 |
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| ryuo | what was the command you used to do that? | 22:58 |
| jacks_ | sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf=0 | 22:59 |
| Aaron | why does ubuntu takes so long to downlaod | 22:59 |
| Aaron | *download | 22:59 |
| ryuo | jacks_: was this before or after the address was configured? | 22:59 |
| openchromehelp | hi, xserver-xorg-video-openchrome driver requires resetting monitor settings for normal display (VGA: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 02)), I do that by setting lxrandr, but that does not set such configuration for the login screen (lightdm i believe). | 22:59 |
| Aaron | !download | 22:59 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Bionic, and help keeping the servers' load low! | 22:59 |
| jacks_ | Aaron: its the solar flares | 23:00 |
| oerheks | Aaron, did you do the donation? | 23:00 |
| openchromehelp | is there a way to make that configuration persistent, including for the login screen? | 23:00 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: i added it to /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf && reboot | 23:00 |
| Aaron | lol I donate with my time and effort of creating Ubuntu better | 23:00 |
| ryuo | jacks_: what was the line? | 23:01 |
| ryuo | jacks_: net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf=0 ? | 23:01 |
| jacks_ | ryuo: yes | 23:02 |
| ryuo | Curious... | 23:02 |
| nacc | jacks_: and to be sure, did you check it's set to 0; if the network is setup in your initrd, you mightneed to update your initramfs (or pass it on the kernel command line to be sure)? | 23:02 |
| ryuo | I wonder what networkd is doing. | 23:02 |
| ryuo | yea, that's a possibility. | 23:03 |
| nacc | i feel like system settings, esp. networking, it's best to do it as early as possible, just in case | 23:03 |
| nacc | systemd runs quite early, nt sure on systemd-networkd itself | 23:03 |
| ryuo | nacc: yea... that's why i don't use netplan on my server. :/ | 23:03 |
| jacks_ | nacc: yes it's definately 0 | 23:03 |
| ryuo | it fails to rename interfaces. | 23:04 |
| ryuo | i just use networkd directly. | 23:04 |
| openchromehelp | or maybe, is there a script/package that sets this? lubuntu 15.10 used to work fine, but that driver came with the installation. | 23:04 |
| ryuo | openchromehelp: yes, maybe? try writing an X11 configuration file under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d | 23:04 |
| jacks_ | nacc: its just netplan | 23:05 |
| ffejj | nacc: it wasn't working earlier because all of my symlinks were malformed ;) | 23:05 |
| nacc | ffejj: ah :) | 23:05 |
| nacc | jacks_: not sure what you mean by "just netplan" | 23:06 |
| nacc | jacks_: that's only one part of the setup of networking | 23:06 |
| ffejj | LPT: ln -s /full/path/original /full/path/link | 23:06 |
| jacks_ | nacc: netplan with systemd-networkd | 23:06 |
| nacc | jacks_: but in any case, i'd still make sure the sysctl is set correctly in the initrd env (you can boot with init=/bin/bash to see, or just pass it unconditionally on the kernel cmdline) | 23:07 |
| nacc | jacks_: it does no harm to test it ) | 23:07 |
| jacks_ | nacc: any guide on the initrd env setup? | 23:07 |
| BlindWiz | hi all, I just upgrade my server from 16.04.4 to 18.04.1. when I use apt-get to install anything it is still getting packages from the xenial repos. how can I fix this? | 23:07 |
| ryuo | BlindWiz: how do you know? | 23:07 |
| Aaron | BlindWiz, check you're /etc/apt/sources.list | 23:08 |
| ryuo | if you mean 3rd party, you may need to adjust them manually. | 23:08 |
| jacks_ | Aaron: that reads check you are /etc/apt/sources.list | 23:08 |
| BlindWiz | what? | 23:08 |
| BlindWiz | Aaron ok, it is still set for xenail. can I just replace xenial with bionic and I'll be update to date? | 23:09 |
| jacks_ | thanks guys. i'll look into the initrd setup | 23:09 |
| Aaron | yes BlindWiz after that just do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 23:10 |
| BlindWiz | ryao what do you mean "how do I know?" when using apt-get it shows the url where its dl'ing packages from | 23:10 |
| BlindWiz | AAA_awright why do you think the upgrade from 16 to 18 didn't update this file? | 23:11 |
| BlindWiz | Aaron sorry, mis-typed your name | 23:11 |
| Aaron | just type apt-get autoclean | 23:11 |
| Aaron | hopefully you don't get any errors; | 23:12 |
| ryuo | BlindWiz: You should check both the ubuntu and 3rd party repos (PPAs...) | 23:12 |
| nacc | jacks_: i think you just need to run `sudo update-initramfs -u -k all` | 23:14 |
| BlindWiz | Aaron type apt-get autoclean after I replace xenail with bionic? and then do a apt-get update &&& apt-get dist-upgrade? | 23:14 |
| Aaron | yes BlindWiz | 23:14 |
| BlindWiz | Aaron working on it now. Thanks. | 23:14 |
| nacc | BlindWiz: how did you upgrade? | 23:14 |
| Aaron | okay. | 23:14 |
| BlindWiz | nacc I used the tool do-release-upgrade ... Why? | 23:15 |
| nacc | BlindWiz: just wondering, as that probably shouldn't have happened; did you use -d or anything? | 23:16 |
| BlindWiz | nacc no, I just the normal command... | 23:16 |
| BlindWiz | but I've seen worse issues happen when upgrading. at least this one is easy to fix in my /etc/apt/sources.list file. :) | 23:17 |
| lovepopsickle | i wonder why the updater did not replace xenial with bionic? | 23:17 |
| nacc | yeah it seems like a bug | 23:17 |
| lovepopsickle | k | 23:17 |
| Aaron | then report the bug | 23:17 |
| lovepopsickle | lol | 23:17 |
| Aaron | so at least developers have it in mind. | 23:17 |
| nacc | Aaron: i assume you are asking BlindWiz to do so; please direct the message to them | 23:18 |
| Aaron | lol | 23:18 |
| Aaron | Don't worry if. I see a bug. I report it. | 23:18 |
| nacc | Aaron: you shouldn't just report random bugs, unless you can reproduce them. | 23:19 |
| lovepopsickle | i actually i have that happened before in the past but that has been so long ago. | 23:21 |
| BlindWiz | aaron thaniks. its working great now. | 23:22 |
| Aaron | No problem BlindWiz | 23:22 |
| Aaron | any time. | 23:22 |
| BlindWiz | now I have 7 cloud instances to upgrade to 18.04.1... so if I can get this issue to reproduce some more I'll report it. | 23:22 |
| jacks_ | nacc: thanks ill look into it when i get back | 23:24 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | hello, i managed to fix my login issue, i needed to reinstall my nvidia drivers, now my second monitor is flashing on and off every now and then | 23:25 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | im using 18.04.1 | 23:26 |
| Aaron | !nvidia | 23:26 |
| ubottu | For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » | 23:26 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | i alreaddy installed the proprietary drivers | 23:30 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | im not havving anny issues with that, i just want to know why my screen is flickering | 23:30 |
| nacc | SpeedrunnerG55: i'd look to correlate that behavior with syslog or dmesg output | 23:31 |
| nacc | maybe Xorg.0.log output | 23:31 |
| kernix | hey | 23:34 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | i dont recognise anything in the log ill pastebin it | 23:37 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WdfRWYXQSx/ | 23:38 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | i notice beofre the screen goes black it will shake a little from side to side | 23:39 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | it seams to be tied to my mousemovements, it will go black whenever i move my mouse a lot | 23:43 |
| tomreyn | i see a workaround there: dont move it! | 23:47 |
| tomreyn | your log's first error message is "systemd-logind: TakeControl failed:" ... i'd search for this | 23:47 |
| tomreyn | if the first one doesn't find anything relevant, try "(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 23:48 |
| tomreyn | SpeedrunnerG55: | 23:48 |
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| SpeedrunnerG55 | i think it had something to do with the launcher | 23:54 |
| SpeedrunnerG55 | i disabled auto-hide launcher and now its not flicjkering | 23:54 |
| qwebirc62344 | Having trouble with the installer. Machine can’t find an internet connection. | 23:55 |
| qwebirc62344 | How can I troubleshoot this? | 23:56 |
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