[00:02] vavkamil, remove it, and install the snap [00:02] https://snapcraft.io/sublime-text [00:03] This might seem like a silly question, but I just received a 9 cell battery after my 6 cell one only lasts for 10 minutes. Is there any point keeping the 6 cell or should I just recycle it? Like idk for testing purposes or something === nzoueidi_ is now known as nzoueidi [00:04] recycle [00:04] is it safe to use snap? [00:04] toners and catridges and battery, some points collect & give a refund [00:05] snap, yes is is safe, and all you need to do is trust the author [00:05] This revision of snap "sublime-text" was published using classic confinement and thus may perform arbitrary system changes outside of the security sandbox that snaps are usually confined to, which may put your system at risk. [00:05] oerheks: thanks, haha I just have trouble throwing things out lol [00:06] calling a recycle centre now ^^ [00:06] ah, prop stuff, pay [00:06] amd they are happy to give support [00:08] I'm not having any luck with SANBOOT ubuntu. [00:08] ipxe just sits at "booting from SAN device". it works perfectly fine with centos 7 [00:08] what the heck $45 au to recycle a battery [00:09] get faaaaarked [00:12] lets stay topical please asphyxia and no cursing [00:13] chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic please asphyxia [00:13] hmph >..> okkk [00:20] I'm not interested in sacrificing my freedom for the sake of making ny it easy to track probates dwellers . [00:20] mikeride, right channel? this is ubuntu support [00:20] no I have no guilt [00:21] lets take the random chatter elsewhere please mikeride [00:21] pressure to do so is not welcomed . I will not stand down and claim these crimes if harassment and battery are needed. [00:22] mikeride, can it up and sell it elsewhere. [00:23] tin_man disconnecting in a bit [00:23] why don't we do something tin_man === ahi2_ is now known as ahi2 [00:31] got a fresh install of lubuntu 18.04 on some ~5 yr old hardware and everything works great except the ethernet port does nothing at all, and isn't listed in /etc/network/interfaces [00:31] however, it lights up before the system boots [00:31] but once lubuntu running, it's dead [00:31] any ideas? [00:32] whats the chipset for that ethernet mmazing [00:32] im not sure, and can't remember how to look at hardware via terminal [00:32] lspci [00:33] mmazing, do have another live linux dvd to try? [00:33] this is really strange as well because this exact same thing is happening on my fairly new laptop but i rarely use ethernet on it [00:34] turns out they are both Realtek [00:34] RTL8111/8168/8411 [00:34] give us the exact chip, thanks [00:34] found a guide :D === asfar is now known as danieru98 [00:35] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/r8168-dkms mmazing [00:36] Thats what needed for bionic [00:37] anyone gotten the update prompts from 16.04 to 18.04 yet? [00:37] awesome, thanks bazhang [00:37] +1 internets for you [00:38] mmazing, it's in the repos for bionic [00:39] it's also in xenial too, my laptop is running 16.04 [00:39] sudo apt install r8168-dkms mmazing [00:39] ok, great [00:39] now i need to figure out how to get that over to this machine with no internet [00:39] can i somehow export a .deb from apt? [00:40] what about sneakernetting it [00:40] oh ... actually, i have a usb wifi card laying around, that'll prolly work [00:40] usb stick, then take the deb and isntall [00:40] or that [00:40] hmmm, actually, i want to learn how to do that instead [00:40] how do i get the .deb for that package? [00:41] packages.ub untu.com for one [00:41] minus the space there [00:42] i'm on https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/r8168-dkms - do i need to download source package and compile? [00:43] nevermind ... [00:43] found the .deb download area, i'm a little slow today :\ [00:43] well, seems like the whole reason I couldn't get ubuntu to boot from SAN is ... grub failed to install? [00:43] omg what's with the freenode spam [00:45] Spam? What spam? [00:53] hi everyone! i need help finding instructions on setting up a VNC server on 16.04 under specific conditions, is anyone available? [01:03] hmmmm, got r8168-dkms installed on laptop and pc and no dice on either one [01:04] mmazing, you need to load it then [01:05] it's a kernel module? [01:05] modprobe? [01:07] nacc, i've reported the bug with ubuntu-bug linux and send the link to #ubuntu-kernel and explained the issue in a nutshell, but there's only 100 users there and nobody has said anything in one hour, is it usually this quiet? [01:08] danieru98, cusp of the weekend could be, why not also hit the mailing liss with it [01:09] !lists | danieru98 [01:09] danieru98: Mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailing lists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com [01:09] lists [01:11] bazhang, i've never used mailing lists before. Do I just send an email to kernel-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com? [01:14] yeah, so i see r8169 is loaded in /proc/modules and r8168 is not [01:14] do i need to blacklist r8169 ? [01:21] bazhang, is the mailing list still in use? i don't see emails more recent than 2010 in here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-bugs/ === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:28] I boot a bunch of computers (various types) from the network. They run a bootstrapped Ubuntu Bionic I installed the Cinnamon desktop on top of that. The issue is that some of these computers get into some kind of power saving mode. As they do that, I think, somehow the NIC gets disabled. [01:28] Can I prevent that from happening? I've looked in the bios but couldn't find any setting that prevents that. [01:28] Question about ryzen APUs on 18.04: what does lspci say your graphics card is? [01:28] And what version do you have? [01:30] (and if there's a better place to ask this question, just let me know:) [01:31] nehemiah: you try sweaking the power saving settings [01:32] Thank you tried that and my clients still go down. Maybe I can add the acpi=off parameter to the kernel and give it a shot. [01:32] nehemiah: try just turning off that setting [01:33] nehemiah: it sounds like thw wm power saving is doing it [01:34] nehemiah: in cinnamon look at the power mangment settings [01:34] I've got everything set to 'off' there. [01:35] Also it even happens before login, at the lightdm login screen [01:35] People log out, then fifteen minutes later the next person comes and has to reboot the thing. [01:47] nehemiah: what's the ethernet hardware? [01:52] ryuo: The clients that give me problems are HP T610 they have BCM57781 NIC chip. [01:52] nehemiah: one option you can explore is messing with settings via ethtool. [01:53] Hm. [01:55] Seems tg3 driver doesn't have any options of interest. [01:55] Let me just say that the same clients on Xenial worked absolutely fine. [01:56] It's likely a kernel issue... [02:01] ryuo: That's what I thought too. [02:03] For what it's worth; I just booted one of these things with acpi=off. Just to see what's happening. [02:17] disposition of The Court: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cFpV7YkqqD/ [02:17] Ubuntu let blessing rest upon U [02:17] to be the instrument of Justice [02:18] Ubuntu let blessing rest upon U to be the instrument of Justice, to be used of GOD [02:18] !ops [02:18] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax [02:30] What package provides apt-add-repository in Xenial? [02:32] !find apt-add-repository xenial [02:32] Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 18 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apt-add-repository&searchon=names&suite=xenial§ion=all [02:32] software properties common [02:33] Hmm... it was right [02:34] Maybe I need to run apt-get update first then... === capella|away is now known as capella === Blade is now known as lamercho [03:24] is there any way to restore compiz working with mate ? [04:13] HornyReaper: check #ubuntu-mate [04:17] hey folks [04:17] so it seems udevadm doesn't exist as part of the udev package anymore? [04:18] I want to create a udev rule for a couple USB-to-serial devices I have [04:19] MrAureliusR: can this help for you mate? https://linuxconfig.org/tutorial-on-how-to-write-basic-udev-rules-in-linux === mgedmin_ is now known as mgedmin [05:01] I'm in lubuntu. trying to run the sound out into the sound in... volume control's input devices tab notes that line in is plugged in, and it shows the levels, but I can't get it to show up in audacity, and I installed QARecord because that appears to just take whatever input is the selected default that's not taking the audio either. === capella is now known as capella|away [05:49] boblamont: lubuntu version please? [05:54] lotuspsychje: 16.04 I wound up using the pulse audio internal recording thing...looping the audio jacks seemed to start working when I did that, but it made audacity stutter a lot [05:54] boblamont: have you tryed a pulseaudio restart yet? [05:55] boblamont: perhaps also try with pavucontrol to check whats going on [05:55] boblamont: while you testing around your sound, leave a tail -f /var/log/syslog open to see errors [05:56] ok,thanks... for now I'll probably just stick to the non-cable version... but I'll need to revisit it when I need to plug something else into line in [05:57] boblamont: system up to date to latest also? [06:01] hi...Can you please give link to download Ubuntu for Powerpc for my my imac g4..? [06:01] !mac | me-1 start here [06:01] me-1 start here: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [06:03] lotuspsychje, can you please provide me link to download latest Ubuntu for PPC , I will prefer torrent link [06:03] hi people I have some issues with ummm scrolling. I'm using a Logitech marathon m705 mouse with solaar. When the smooth scrolling is on the content on the app menus are a little bit fast and turning the mouse wheel on half is enough to pass a menu for example [06:03] If I close it then scrolling is far tooslow on browsers [06:04] me-1: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [06:08] lotuspsychje, what is the difference between alternate and desktop versions [06:16] me-1, if you mean via https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads (alternate); there is the network installer; torrents ... or alternative ways to download to the 'full' iso [06:17] "Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after 18.04.1's release expected in late July." [06:17] I accept that, but what's the reason for that policy? [06:18] guiverc, for now I am looking for a live cd ,powerpc, for my Imac g4 [06:18] I can see why waiting for the .1 is favorable, to ensure stability [06:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads provides link for 14.04 (2014.April release; 5 years for 'main', the 'universe' (3+ years) has ~gone already) === Katnip_ is now known as Katnip [06:23] endojelly, i've never heard a reason given, expect it's always been that way; allows some control over network; having people around (should issues occur & Canonical want staff around etc)... Thursday is always 'release' day though; assuming its the 'few days' you're asking about [06:23] if was the .1; stability of course is the reason... [06:24] guiverc, see my quote from the wiki, which says that 16.04 LTS upgrades will not be enabled until a few days *after* 18.04.1 [06:25] endojelly, what part of it are you asking about? [06:25] also, does that mean that 16.04 LTS will upgrade straight to 18.04.1 LTS? (probably yes) [06:25] guiverc, why it's enabled a few days after 18.04.1's release, and not on the same day [06:26] and, secondarily, why upgrades from 16.04 LTS are not enabled directly with 18.04 LTS, though there I can imagine that Canonical wants some baking time before unleashing the new LTS release on existing LTS installations. [06:27] as stated; .1 is a release; so always a thursday. it allows lessening of bandwidth for the one day (LTS upgrades are a huge % of users), allows them to pick which day the 'taps' are turned on so staff are around etc [06:27] but this is opinion from what I've heard employees say (podcasts etc) - i've no special knowledge [06:27] guiverc, I didn't ask why .1 is released on a Thursday? [06:28] guiverc, I'm asking why LTS upgrades from 16.04 LTS are enabled a few days after 18.04.1's release? [06:29] guiverc, or is that to not have the combined new 18.04.1 users and 16.04 LTS upgraders traffic, then? [06:29] to reduce network bandwidth (3rd time stated); ie. 18.04 users upgrade to 18.04.1 first; the larger % of 16.04 LTS upgrade later staggering bandwidth; it also allows them to pick day when employees are around ... ( [06:29] ah, ok, thanks [06:29] makes sense [06:30] While we're at it [06:30] what's good for HiDPI? [06:30] I have Retina displays [06:30] can't you do it manually with do-release-upgrade now? or is there any advantage of waiting? [06:30] or that command won't work yet? [06:31] lovepopsickle, that was part of the reason for my question (though I didn't ask that directly) [06:31] lovepopsickle, i don't know if it'll work or not (yes it can be forced; but why force it?) - it's currently only 'hours' after the .1 release, not the days .. so it may not have been enabled yet (I've already jumped; so don't know) [06:31] lovepopsickle, but I guess I'll just wait until it's regularly enabled. On the off chance that anything goes spectacularly wrong with 18.04.1, it's a bit safer [06:32] (even though I have snapshots and could just roll back) [06:33] for clarification your saying the prompts are coming in hours or in days? [06:33] the wiki says days, but that could be outdated of course [06:33] guiverc, ? [06:33] hours since .1; it's mid-friday-arvo for me; the .1 was officially release ~5am my time... which was only hours ago! [06:33] endojelly: any modern wm would support hidpi [06:34] endojelly: i would say mostly gnome 3 and kde [06:34] oh i see what your saying. I am talking about when it will be prompted [06:34] so probably monday then I guess? [06:34] i doubt they will do it over the weekend [06:35] lovepopsickle: if you have a install you dont need to reinstall [06:36] reinstall? I am on 16.04 right now [06:37] lovepopsickle: ah a upgrade [06:38] I should *probably* actually wait until the FPGA software officially supports 18.04 before doing the upgrade, but since this is only for private projects and I have snapshots... as soon as upgrades are enabled, I'll give it a try. [06:38] endojelly: probly best [06:39] lovepopsickle, yeah I'd expect monday (UST/UTC time; during business hours london time too, but we'll just have to wait & see) === elibrokeit is now known as ztrawhcse [07:01] Hi === OICU812 is now known as Tabmasher [07:02] I just updated from 16.04 to 18.04 and I don’t see a login screen just a purple screen. The SSH server is up and I can remotely log in but the shell is seemingly gone what should I do? [07:14] >.> [07:30] hi [07:31] hello all [07:31] mod_ruid2 is not working on 14.04 [07:32] I configured it like; [07:32] can you upgrade to 18.04? [07:32] RMode config [07:32] RUidGid user group [07:32] does it work there? [07:32] can't for this box [07:32] ok [07:32] just asking :) [07:33] its officially available. why isn't it working ? is the config somewhat different ? Is this a bug resolved in later version(s)? [07:34] its been supported on centos for years. what's up with it on ubuntu ? [07:35] i have never even heard of that thing you're trying to use :) [07:35] i'm guessing it's an apache module? [07:35] i'm more of an nginx guy [07:36] a few days ago i asked about my bluetooth not working since I did a "right-click -> Turn off bluetooth" in KDE. This problem persisted even after a reboot. I managed to fix it with a "sudo hciconfig hci0 up". However, now I have to do that after every reboot or bluetooth will not work. [07:38] yep, its apache mod [07:39] eep, that thing sounds like a bad idea [07:40] "there are some security issues, for instance if attacker successfully exploits the httpd process, he can set effective capabilities and setuid to root." [07:40] "some" [07:41] basically you can just as well run the thing as root if you use that mod [07:41] well, not quite, but close [07:42] ? [07:42] never had a security issue with it [07:42] in yrs [07:42] that you know of :D [07:42] maybe no one ever tried [07:43] it's not a security issue per se, but it cuts out a huge chunk of mitigation [07:43] basically all your privilege separation can now be bypassed pretty easily [07:46] sure, usually people shouldn't be able to exploit your httpd process in the first place, but if they do, they get a privilege escalation to root for free [07:51] how ? [07:51] can it be bypassed ? [07:56] Good morning, I want to execute a program via bash. The tool continues running and claims/blocks the terminal for itself. How can I continue working in the same bash window? [07:59] you can background it, but it depends on the program if that's a good idea or not [07:59] paleApe, `/path/to/tool &` [07:59] paleApe, to run a command/script in the background; end the command with a "&" (no quotes) [07:59] what are you trying to execute [07:59] and why would you not consider just opening a seperate terminal [08:05] It's hipchat. Normally it is started automatically when ubuntu starts up but after an update the file-path was changed. So I wanted to start it manually via bash but wanted to close the bash-windows after HipChat has started up. [08:06] I know, I could just execute the file via file browser. I just wanted to know, IF it's possible in general [08:08] guys, is there a way to make ruid2 work with apache on 14.x ? [08:16] Haris: your on ubuntu server? [08:16] yes [08:16] Haris: try #ubuntu-server please [08:17] Haris: there is also #httpd for specific apache questions [08:17] DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS" [08:17] wow that's ancient [08:17] ruid2 works on apache on centos. so I'm thinking it works in general. just not working on 14.x [08:17] illuminated: can we help you? [08:18] no. no questions for the moment. [08:18] already asked in #httpd [08:20] Haris: best way to get your issue solved, is to give us the full story, steps tryed, whats not working,whats your end goal,..all in one line to the channel [08:28] does the 18.04.1 update take a while to propagate? I'm on 16.04 lts and do-release-upgrade says there's nothing [08:29] edmoore: can take a few till upgrade window shows up [08:30] a few... hours? [08:30] i was hoping to do it on my work machine on a friday because what could go wrong [08:31] if you d'ont want to wait use -d [08:31] don't use -d [08:31] that can take you to a development version [08:32] edmoore: patience is the key here, let everyone do his work..it will come [08:32] i like the idea of there being lots of people in the chain waiting to deliver it to me [08:33] but roger [08:33] edmoore: releasing can never give an exact time, hope you understand? [08:33] sure, i just saw a bunch of reviews for it pop up online so I assumed it was actually released [08:33] rather than releasing in the present participle sense [08:33] ikonia: if you try it tell you which version… and if it's the 18.04 … it 's the same packages than in a few hours [08:34] edmoore: 18.04.1 has been released yes, but for ltsupgrades it can take a while [08:34] !ltsupgrade | edmoore [08:34] edmoore: Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. [08:34] righto, thank you for explaining that bit, i didn't know [08:34] edmoore: no problem [08:36] fyi: the announcement release notes for 18.04.1 state "Users of Ubuntu 16.04 will soon be offered an automatic upgrade to 18.04.1 via Update Manager." (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-July/000234.html) - ie. SOON [08:36] Ool: be carefull if you give advice like that, we dont need users ending up on a devel release [08:39] lotuspsychje: in fact I always reinstall, and I wait the end of summer to change for the new LTS version… but if people don't want to wait… [08:39] and it's just the last day [08:39] Ool: we have a lot of users on the LTS way, that can wait.. [08:39] not 3 month before [08:40] Ool: until .1 releases, there are still many bugs regular users dont need [08:41] Ool: but lets move this to #ubuntu-discuss if you want to talk about [08:41] lotuspsychje: in fact I think you tell the truth :) [08:42] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/07/ubuntu-18-04-1-lts-release [08:43] yes, it was that very article that confused me infact [08:43] 'the arrival of Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS also marks the point at which users of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) will begin to see an Ubuntu 18.04 upgrade notification' [08:43] and do-release-upgrade showned nothing, so I thought i might have a problem [08:44] fake news eh [08:45] edmoore: do-release-upgrade is not fake...but all needs to be synced first to work [08:45] i know that, i was talking about the article [08:45] yah, "marks the point at which" is faek news. :) [08:46] you have explainied, and I now understand, that it takes a while to propagate to ltsupgrades. the article is suggesting otherwise - it's the article that's wrong [08:46] I mean, OMG! it's OMGubuntu! Clicks! Baits! Content! OMG! [08:47] edmoore: omgubuntu is not part of canonical, if you need real news come here first [08:49] a good name for the source of truth too [08:49] thanks [08:49] Hi all, if a package is being pinned in /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences file, how can I unpin it to upgrade it? [08:50] apt-mark unhold says that the package is not held, which I guess is different from pinned. [08:51] Erisian: should pop up in 10 minutes [08:51] edmoore even* === capella is now known as capella|away [09:00] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-July/000234.html [09:02] Hello everyone, can anyone help me understand why tlp does not shut down my pcie nvidia card but when I do powertop --auto-tune it works? [09:03] New Ubuntu on its way down :) [09:04] luna_: please dont repeat in this channel, ubuntu support only [09:05] lotuspsychje: sorry [09:10] Hello [09:35] X-Seti, hi; if you have a Ubuntu question, please just ask it (try to keep to a single line, and be patient waiting a response - most of us do other things; eg. I just noticed your 'hello' :) [09:42] Hello guiverc, I do but it's apache2 related, I followed a 'how to install the perfect server for 18.04'. only to find there is a problem with running .PHP index files, 4 weeks on i'm unable to resolve the issue. [09:47] X-Seti, ideally you should have asked your question generally (others may ignore it due to my name being @ start), and I don't know apache. I'd suggest waiting here a bit (see if someone else responds), then try #ubuntu-server where it's more likely to be used/known.. if you don't get a response from either, try again later etc... [09:50] X-Seti: what's teh problem? and indeed #ubuntu-server is perhaps better place for PHP/Apache support [09:50] Is the release a day late? =-O [09:54] TafThorne1: no, it's out. [10:01] blackflow: website just not updated yet? Still says 18.04 not 18.04.1 [10:02] TafThorne1: What website? This shows 18.04.1 for me: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server [10:02] (Desktop too) [10:03] I thought https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes but that does say .1 now [10:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [10:04] blackflow: maybe that is what I was reading when I spotted 10.04 at the top and not 18.04.1 [10:05] *18.04 [10:05] Well that's wiki, I'm sure it'll get updated in time. [10:10] blackflow: thank you for your help and i appologise for wating your time with my mistake [10:12] TafThorne1: you're welcome. [10:12] Do the desktop and server version(s) have different maintainer(s) for mod ruid2 for apache2 ? [10:14] Haris: "desktop" and "server" differentiate only by the ISOs and what's initially installed. otherwise it's all one and the same Ubuntu package repository. Why do you ask? [10:16] mod ruid2 is not working on one 14.x install [10:16] 14.04.5 [10:16] Haris: as you also crossposted to #ubuntu-server (and please don't do that), you can continue there, as it's more relevant to the server. [10:19] ok [10:28] . [10:36] Is there a web site that explains the timing sequences of UEFI booting. Like when is mdadm raid assembled, mounting of boot partition, reading mbr, displaying grub menu, etc. Overly detailed the better. [11:17] InHisName: perhaps if you explain your whole story, volunteers can try to think along? [11:19] InHisName, web site; no. i do remember a blog that went into horrific depth (written after a dev created the debian/ubuntu/gnome/linux-kernel boot...) can't recall where I saw it as was year(s) ago; and I had no reason to use it (it was interesting though too detailed for me) [11:22] In frustration I used the text above in a google search and stumbled on this general booting description - https://neosmart.net/wiki/mbr-boot-process/ Hmm, that site guiverc: mentions sounds interesting but might be a bit dated by now. [11:23] InHisName: what are you actually trying to do, can you share? [11:24] InHisName, may have been 2-3 years ago, was much longer than what you found (I hoped I [11:24] sorry; I hoped i'd better understand it if I printed; but would have used too much paper so didn't...) [11:25] I think it was a pdf; but I may have saved it to pdf [11:37] InHisName, https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/ [11:43] j #linux [11:56] Hello, it's possible to view windows 10 share from ubuntu smbclient ? I can view windows 8 share smbclient -g -L 192.168.168.168 -N not work for windows 10 [11:56] I have version smbclient 4.5 [11:57] !samba | kiki67100 start here [11:57] kiki67100 start here: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html [11:57] anyone knows how to disable the zoom/pinch touchpad gesture in xorg/synaptics? It's driving me crazy [12:02] StucKman: is this usefull for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch [12:02] lemmesee... [12:03] kiki67100: there is also a nice #samba channel if you like [12:03] it seems like it's an application dependent gestre [12:03] StucKman: wich app is that [12:03] firefox, in particular [12:03] I hope no others [12:03] ah [12:04] so far it only bothers me when viewing a slippy map [12:04] lotuspsychje: thanks i will try [12:04] StucKman: i think there are FF addons for that, perhaps ask in #firefox about it? [12:05] StucKman: unless you presume its really ubuntu related [12:05] I found how to disable it in about:config, testing now [12:05] I thought it was a synaptics issue [12:05] no sweat [12:05] sorry for the noise [12:05] StucKman: good you were investigating [12:06] in fact, when I asked it here, I realised that for some reason synaptic's man page didn't have an option [12:12] lotuspsychje: going to #firefox now, thanks [12:17] trying to install open stack from ubuntu freshly installed desktop. it asks for LXD. One page on the ubuntu website says to install it i need to use "snap install lxd" , another page says to use "apt instsall lxd" / is there a difference ? [12:18] saint__: snaps and packages from repos differ in package versions [12:19] lotuspsychje .. :/ [12:19] saint__: that means, the user can choose wich lxd he wants/needs === saint__ is now known as saint_ [12:20] lotuspsychje i need the one to open stack can run without yelling at me that lxd is not working correctly .. [12:21] saint__: well im no openstack expert, but wich ubuntu version and openstack do you have? [12:22] lotuspsychje ubuntu 18.04 / and open stack .. well.. i need to intall lxd first . my first attempt was a failure because once installed, it saw that lxd was not installed. [12:22] saint_: if you apt install openstack, lxc-common lxd … are in the dependance list [12:22] i m using this URL to install OpenStack https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack [12:22] !info lxd bionic [12:22] they use snap, then conjure [12:22] lxd (source: lxd): Container hypervisor based on LXC - daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.1-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 (bionic), package size 4867 kB, installed size 17366 kB (Only available for amd64; arm64; armhf; i386; ppc64el; s390x) [12:23] saint_: the snap version will give you 3.2 [12:24] saint_: you dont confuse that line with snapd? [12:24] saint_: it says you need snapd & lxd not the lxd snap [12:26] lotuspsychje what page are you on ? [12:27] saint_: the page you sent url, requierments [12:28] saint_: Laptop, desktop or virtual machine with 16GB RAM, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, snapd and LXD installed [12:29] yeah. so snapd is installed and used to install lxd [12:30] but since lxd is not installed, i looked into the ubuntu www [12:30] and i found 2 pages with different installs.. snap and apt [12:33] saint_: i would go for the official repo version.. [12:33] lotuspsychje being ..? [12:33] saint_: scroll up, i triggered to you already [12:41] Hi guys. I've just got a new vm from our admin but there's something wrong with the hdd's https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cjnnXJC432/ [12:42] it's a ubuntu server so i can't use gparted's nice ui to work on the drives === beaver is now known as evilnewbie [12:42] i think sdb isn't mounted at all [12:43] what's even more puzzling to me is that sda isn't used entirely [12:44] I'm not quite sure what to do now [12:46] why are my animations laggy like this? https://streamable.com/3okca [12:47] As far as i can tell the / volume on sda is managed by lvm [12:47] so it should be pretty straight forward to make it bigger. However i never worked with lvm before [12:48] leonardus: doesn't look laggy to me [12:50] are you sure? it looks like it could be much smoother [12:54] !lvm | Anticom maybe this helps [12:54] Anticom maybe this helps: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [12:58] Hi folks [12:58] Hi [13:02] I have arch setup with lvm on luks. Is it possible to replace arch with ubuntu 18 without losing home directory? [13:04] kake: back it up somewhere and then copy it over? [13:05] Hi [13:07] EriC^^: Does ubuntu installer support lvm on luks installation? [13:19] kake using the home of an other linux, with all settings and config, really??? [13:22] I used lvextend and lvs now shows that my volume is 20G. however df -h still says it's only 4G [13:22] Is there a step i'm missing? I've rebooted the vm already to see whether this fixes it [13:24] Anticom: you need to resize the fs too. [13:25] Anticom: resize2fs if you're using ext4 [13:36] deww: cheers [14:02] hello [14:07] Anticom, your / (root) partition shows the actual size in the first column and "used" in the next and 4G seems quite small for an installed OS [14:08] do-release-upgrade shows no new releases ? [14:08] I have 16.04 [14:08] using df -h [14:08] beefjoe, chnge to 'normal' [14:08] what do you mean [14:08] ioria [14:09] beefjoe, /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [14:10] beefjoe, change Prompt from lts to normal [14:12] Thanks! [14:12] ok [14:14] beefjoe: Note that you will now be on the non-LTS release schedule when you do that... simply switch it back for LTS again [14:15] sure [14:15] will do === capella|away_ is now known as capella|away [14:20] hmm, should do-release-upgrade not offer me 18.04.1 now? [14:20] is there a delay while it mirrors everywhere? I would have expected that to be done before launch [14:23] Cheez, you could have read: set updates to normal [14:24] yes i know, i have that [14:25] oh, duh, proxy env not set [14:25] Couldnt join #hardware, hope I can ask this here: you think a HD of 1TB is faster than one of 2TB? Being both 7200 rpm, and the 2TB has a buffer of 64mb and the 1tb has 32 mb...both are sata 3, I heard more disk space makes them slower, so i'm unsure [14:26] xjkx, register, the error when you try to login, is clear [14:26] !register [14:26] For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. [14:26] we don't do hardware, just technical ubuntu [14:26] oh, sorry [14:27] you will find most channels +R registered only, due to spammers [14:27] I thought it was invited only, I just forgot to identify to nickserv, thanks :) [14:27] have fun! [14:30] do-release-upgrade still not working for me, any tips? [14:33] change software update settings to update "any version" and then update again and then do-release-upgrade worked for me [14:35] Just remember that changing to "any release" or updating the config to "normal" removes your machine from the LTS schedule. After upgrading, it would be a good idea to switch it back. [14:36] will do [14:43] that the point of waiting untill it's available [14:43] yeah wait, and wait.. wait, it is there already :-D [14:47] hello ... just installed kubuntu like 1hour ago. I used the terminal to install transmission and libreoffice for example, they are installed in english, not my native language even though i set language settings etc correctly, so i had to install the l10n package too. I remember (k)ubuntu used to get my native language package too automatically. [14:48] Somebody has an idea how to fix this? === amirpro_ is now known as amirpro [15:16] sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf is not working on 17.04... am i typing that correctly? [15:18] thxffo: 17.04 is EOL and no longer supported. Time to upgrade. 18.04.1 was just released yesterday [15:18] that sucks [15:18] thxffo: that's how it is for non-LTS releases. [15:19] How do I execute a command such that it return which g++ as /usr/bin/g++-8 (or any specific version I point it to)? [15:19] only 9 months for regular ones. [15:19] CXX=/usr/bin/g++-8 would have CXX contain that value, but the program runs g++ [15:19] not CXX === jstein_ is now known as jstein [15:24] infandum: use update-alternatives [15:25] Or, fix the program to respect CXX. [15:25] either works. [15:27] Upgrading.. [15:27] * beefjoe excited [15:28] beefjoe: lol... upgrades are usually a source of stress. [15:30] I'm pretty sure something's gonna go wrong that's why I'm staying connected here xD [15:31] but it's still nice to upgrade, got nothing better to do hehe [15:32] upgrades are usually a source of relief for me :-) [15:34] anderx: Is it possible to have update-alternatives for JUST a user, no one else on the system? [15:35] infandum: don't believe so. that effects the whole system. though you can setup your own symlinks in the user's own PATH directory. [15:35] programs typically search all of PATH to resolve commands. [15:36] If you want each user to have different defaults than system just put their local PATH before system PATH because first match wins [15:37] That's a good idea, I'll try that [15:37] infandum: you can also just use an alias [15:38] leftyfb: that doesn't translate to build scripts really. i think that was the context of their problem. === evilnewbie is now known as beaver [15:41] Yeah, it's for building [15:44] Hello, I'm having problems booting into my new Ubuntu 18.04 install, is this the place to ask for advice? [15:44] qwebirc45038: yes, what's the problem? [15:45] I'm getting stuck at a purple screen on start up. [15:46] I got it to boot using the recovery mode, but I'm hoping to fix that issue so its a one click deal, as this will be my media server. [15:46] qwebirc45038: hold shift to get grub, press 'e' over ubuntu, go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz .....quiet splash and remove quiet splash and type verbose instead and press f10 to boot [15:47] qwebirc45038: ah, then boot using verbose nomodeset , it's possibly a graphics driver issue then [15:47] try sudo apt update && sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall after it's booted [15:48] I was actually kind of surprised there weren't any driver issues. I'm repurposing an HP z230. [15:50] ah [15:50] *aha [16:01] !ltsupgrade [16:01] Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July. [16:04] hello [16:05] can anyone help me with this? preferred fastboot [./Linux/fastboot] does not exist [16:05] Brod8362: welcome to ubuntu support, what can we do for you? [16:05] lotuspsychje, ^ [16:05] not much, i just came around to see what's going on in here, evidently not much though [16:05] i'm pretty new to linux so i do think i'll end up using this chat sometime in the future though [16:06] Brod8362: this is not a chat, but support only [16:06] can anyone help me with this? preferred fastboot [./Linux/fastboot] does not exist [16:06] !patience | Chipm0nk [16:06] Chipm0nk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [16:07] Chipm0nk: what version of ubuntu are you running? [16:07] 18 [16:07] Chipm0nk: 18 is not a version of ubuntu [16:08] Chipm0nk: cat /etc/issue [16:08] ubuntu 18 [16:08] leftyfb, ubuntu 18.04 [16:08] Chipm0nk: where do you get that message? you gave zero context :) [16:08] Chipm0nk: and when exactly do you see this error? [16:09] https://pastebin.com/U5WQgqvJ [16:09] trying to recover my e4 plus because windows sucks. [16:09] Chipm0nk: that's not an Ubuntu issue [16:09] Chipm0nk: also, that's not an error. [16:09] yes it is. [16:09] Chipm0nk: you should try support from the Android dev community [16:09] Chipm0nk: if you dont' know what that script does, you should probably not be running the script. [16:10] nacc, like I said, I'm trying to recover my e4 plus. [16:10] Chipm0nk, so your issue is that hwflash.sh package, we don't know about [16:10] the script won't run on UBUNTU [16:10] not an ubuntu issue, ask the script maker? [16:10] Chipm0nk: ok, contact the script developer [16:10] Chipm0nk: it is running fine; what it does, doesn't work, so that's the script's owner's issue [16:11] danieru98: sorry, was afk -- yes it's typical, the bug is probably how you will get a response [16:12] nacc, great, thanks [16:15] Hi, I have done a clean install of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, previously I was using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, running on dual-boot with Windows 10, after installation I am facing this issue where the dedicated numeric pad(on the right of a keyboard) of my laptop is not working even when the NumLock is on.(never encountered this with Ubuntu 16.04 and also the numeric keypad is working fine in Windows 10) I have searched askubuntu.com and DuckDuckGo-ed it also but [16:15] still haven't found any article which can rectify the issue. Please if anyone can help I'll be grateful. Thanks in advance. :) [16:16] thegeekbong, mind to share what laptop exactly? [16:16] I had a weird issue with my keyboard, rebooting fixed it. If that doesn't work maybe it's just a driver issue? [16:16] thegeekbong: did you add the right keyboard layout? [16:16] nacc, yes, they just sent me a message asking me to test this with the latest linux mainline 4.18. Can i use Ukuu Kernel Update Utility for that? or i'll have to follow the steps on their wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds [16:17] danieru98: the wiki instructions [16:17] oerheks, I'm using HP 15-ac173TU notebook [16:17] nacc, fak no easy path lol, alright then [16:18] lotuspsychje, yes, I selected the English(US) keyboard layout [16:19] danieru98: yeah, sorry; testing a kernel for that team is typically necessary, but it's a one-off kind of step (usually it helps determine if a further backport would fix it, etc) [16:20] I'm using ukuu. Works fine. A few issues when upgrading the kernel with my gtx1070m nvidia open source drivers. Found easy work around for that issue. Kernel 4.18 is running fine on my Alienware M17r4 [16:22] thegeekbong, happed to me when i selected 'control pointer with the keyboard' in Universal Access ; it disablethe numeric pad [16:22] danieru98: tbh, i've never used ukuu; so you could try it, i suppose :) [16:23] ukuu - https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/ukuu-easy-way-to-install-mainline-kernel-ubuntu [16:23] madmangun: 4.18 is still in RC. It's not supported anywhere. [16:23] thegeekbong, happened to me when i selected 'control pointer with the keyboard' in Universal Access ; it disables the numeric pad [16:24] nacc, the message send me a link to the wiki, wo i guess i'll better do it that way rather than test it with ukuu just to have them ask me to do it as the wiki said === HornyReaper is now known as H7R [16:24] danieru98: ack [16:24] my screen is flicekring constantly . can't figure out why it is happeing. I am running Ubunut 18.04 LTS [16:24] ioria, I don't have that option in my Universal Access. [16:24] leftyfb, i thought ukuu had an option for downliading RC kernels [16:25] danieru98: it does. That doesn't mean those kernels are supported here. [16:25] thegeekbong, it should... look for'control pinter with keyboard' then or similar [16:25] If I delete a user using deluser, will their cron jobs go away? [16:25] ioria, looking, please give me a min [16:25] The 4.18 kernel is still in -rc6 [16:26] mustmodify_, can you still login as that user? [16:26] if no, you have your answer [16:26] how is cron related to being able to login? I mean, yes or no is there an account I guess... [16:26] but it seems like cron could run without a user account if it chose to. [16:27] I could be wrong. [16:27] mustmodify_: it's an easy test to try out [16:28] mustmodify_: regardless, even if the cron still exists, it won't run properly since the user it tries to run as doesn't exist [16:28] you stated "their cron jobs" [16:28] k I'll give it a shot. So you're saying if I can't login then I don't have to worry about stray cron jobs. [16:28] not the general ones [16:28] right. [16:28] ok thanks. [16:28] my screen is flicekring constantly sometimes, usually flickering stops couple of minutes after booting up. can't figure out why it is happeing. I am running Ubunut 18.04 LTS.Need assistance to fix it [16:28] maybe the lines are not deleted, but will never be called with that usedID [16:28] ioria, Yes, in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS it is as Mouse Keys. It was switched on. Thank you so much. :) [16:29] thegeekbong, ok, no prob [16:32] So, whenever I do an apt-get upgrade, it tries to install a bunch of packages that have icons. When it gets to "processing triggers for" these packages, it pops up a large herd of gui dialogs about importing xpm bitmaps. So many that it is basically impossible to upgrade my system anymore. How do I stop this? [16:32] Ubuntu 16.04. [16:33] Galaxor, have you tried to force it? [16:33] UserUS: Like, apt-get upgrade --force ? [16:34] gui dialogs with the terminal cmd apt-get upgrade ? [16:34] ioria: Yep! [16:35] Galaxor, we 'd love to see one [16:36] ioria: :p [16:36] Galaxor, yes [16:40] http://iheartryan.com/xpm-dialog.png [16:40] Hmm, maybe this is caused by something within the package it's installing -- qubes-core-agent. [16:40] Galaxor: not an ubuntu package. [16:41] Galaxor: so they can violate policy all they want [16:41] Galaxor, and it's --configure -a not apt upgrade [16:41] ioria: Right. Yeah, I killed it during the upgrade because it was doing this. [16:41] i see [16:42] Okay, I'll go bug qubes about this. === SimonNL is now known as SimoNL_Afk [16:42] Thanks. === SimoNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL_Afk [16:43] Galaxor, but nacc is right,it's not an ubuntu pkg === fabricius1 is now known as fabricius [16:54] test === H7R is now known as HornedReaper === HornedReaper is now known as H7r === H7r is now known as H7R === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [17:10] Hi I can’t get to my login screen [17:13] if I did sysncfs /mnt/mydrive , would that be a proper file descriptor ? Also, I cant do that with sync() right? If I want to sysnc only one drive, I need to do it like my first example correct? [17:14] Stochastix_: well, syncfs is an API. A filesystem path is not a file descriptor. [17:15] Stochastix_: for syncfs, you pick a file on the filesystem you want sync'd. [17:16] Stochastix_: also, filesystem != drive. [17:16] is there another way to sync only one filesystem without knowing the name of any particular files? [17:17] nacc, I know a fs is not the drive. The reason im asking what I am in my first question is that I saw an example where they used a mount point as a parameter sent to syncfs [17:18] but the man says to use a fd [17:19] But im still hoping there is a way to sync only one filesystem, rather than all of them with the sync command [17:19] Stochastix_ a FD on linux is /dev/sdXX [17:19] for a drivve [17:19] drive [17:20] something like /dev/sda for a drive and /dev/sda1 for a partition filesystem [17:21] H7R: i don't know what you're talking about. [17:21] Stochastix_: link to example? [17:23] nacc in linux all is file even filesystems and drives ! /dev/sda mean about the 1rst hdd and /dev/sda1 mean about the first file system on the first drive ! [17:23] Stochastix_: you don't need to know the name of a file on a given mountpoint, to find a file in it [17:24] H7R: none of those are FDs = File Descriptors. [17:24] H7R: those are files (special ones), as you say. [17:24] Stochastix_: also, what exactly are you trying to solve? :) [17:24] /dev/sda is the file to access the first hdd ! [17:25] H7R: please stop. [17:25] H7R: that is not relevant in any way to this discussion. [17:25] nacc I just try to help ! [17:26] he is talking about hard and softlinks in a filesystem, look at it virtual, not metal [17:26] oerheks : don't understand ! [17:26] H7R: there is no need for so many exclamation points. You were not being helpful in this case. [17:27] H7R, it could be raid or lvm, so the data can be on any disk [17:27] Stochastix_: what do you know about the filesystem? [17:27] Stochastix_: i mean you want to use just 'sync /dev/sda1' for instance? that's all you know is the block device file? [17:28] nacc : shit of this fucking syntax ! i do it without thinking, it's like a reflex with me ... [17:28] !language | H7R [17:28] H7R: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [17:28] H7R, your fine, don't feel offended [17:28] ubottu with you any punctuation sign is agressive ! [17:29] well, Mark said: keep the channel family friendly [17:29] yep ! [17:30] are you human or computers ? can't you be flexible about "!" marks ? [17:30] H7R: it was just a suggestion, relax. [17:30] tell us more about the filesystem [17:31] nacc no because (you are computer)?I'll talk C++, I'll speak human; [17:32] H7R: ok, I'm putting you in my ignore, have a nice day. [17:32] okay ! [17:32] EriC^^, Its a temp transfer drive mounted under /mnt/xfer, after writing stuff to it, I just wanted to sync before umount in a script [17:32] But I thought there may be a good way to sync only that drive rather then calling sync for the whole system [17:33] H7R: please calm down. Being aggressive does not produce any good results [17:33] Stochastix_: you could mount it sync, as well [17:33] whois nacc [17:33] Or I should say, call sync, only for that one filesystem on that one partition, on that drive [17:33] Stochastix_: sync /mountpoint might potentially work, you could try to strace it to see if its just syncing that one fs [17:35] Stochastix_: indeed it seems that sync /boot/efi only syncs /boot/efi [17:36] EriC^^: does it end up calling syncfs? [17:36] oh, thanks EriC^^ [17:36] nacc: nope, it uses fsync() [17:36] EriC^^: ah ok [17:36] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B53v8FX4Yg/ [17:38] Stochastix_: no problem === capella|away is now known as capella [17:40] asd [17:40] hi [17:41] I've a question about update my ubuntu [17:41] neverkas`: ask away [17:42] I've Ubuntu 14 and I'd like to update it. My question I won't lose all my information that I've? [17:43] neverkas`: no [17:43] neverkas`: 14.04, you mean? no, you should not; but you also should have backups before large upgrades of any data you do care about [17:44] neverkas`: Always have backups unless the data is only temporary or unimportant [17:44] mm [17:45] How can I do that? I mean a backup. === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL [17:45] neverkas`: get an external hdd and copy/paste your stuff [17:46] neverkas`: there's countless solutions. Ubuntu comes with one called Dejavu. [17:46] neverkas`, if you don't have a backup already, your data is not important [17:50] Ahh ok I'll find out about Dejavu [17:50] How do i add a tag to a bug report on bugs.launchpad.net? [17:50] yes it's important for me what I've on the system e.e but I don't usually use linux all time. [17:51] neverkas`: making a backup is not Os related [17:52] nvm i found it [18:27] someone, please, help me understand what's happening. https://paste.ee/p/stf6L I did `apt autoremove; apt install xpra` and it lists a list of packages for autoremove. I do `apt autoremove` again and there's nothing! looks like apt/apt-get's database is broken. This is core functionality of an OS, what. the. hell?? [18:27] also, I did `apt-get install --install-suggests winehq-staging` and it deleted me some packages, including `xpra`! what the hell? [18:29] FreeBDSM: I *think* it's because of what you are installing [18:30] FreeBDSM: you are removing a bunch of i386 pacakges, which makes other packages removable [18:30] FreeBDSM: don't know about the latter comment, maybe pastebin the terminal.log or somethhing [18:30] FreeBDSM: winehq-staging isn't an ubuntu package, though, so it's probably something in that [18:32] What is Wine Staging? Wine Staging is the testing area of winehq.org. It contains bug [18:32] s fixes [18:32] good luck there [18:34] how installing X may result into uninstalling Y? [18:35] this makes no sense to me, unless X asks for dep Z which needs to replace Y (and thus Y has to be removed first) [18:36] mind the i386 and the full 64 bit packages, that makes it double interesting [18:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xpra/+bug/1691025 [18:40] Launchpad bug 1691025 in xpra (Ubuntu) "Installing xpra on HWE-enabled LTS breaks system" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:52] Asd [18:53] Hi H7R [18:57] FreeBDSM: yes, it's possible that is the case, you didn't say it was or wasn't [18:58] FreeBDSM: urgh, and xpra is python < 2.8 only? i'd just not use it [19:00] ioria: nice fine, no one ever replied to my comment :) [19:00] nacc, yup [19:01] FreeBDSM: you can also have conflicting dependencies, an; what it looks like in your case is python 64-bit and python 32-bit [19:02] is it possible to install java10 on ubuntu 16.04 (32bits) ? [19:07] openjdk10 is EOL and xenial gives 8? [19:07] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial-updates&keywords=openjdk [19:08] i think 8 is considered some kind of LTS [19:08] (while 10 is not) [19:09] yep,ts public support will end next September [19:12] java 10 was just released... how is it end of life? [19:13] nacc: ok, what do I do? [19:13] pragmaticenigma: oracle changed how they support newer java releases. [19:14] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/eol-135779.html [19:14] pragmaticenigma, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history [19:14] pragmaticenigma: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html [19:16] i did not refer to the oracle blob [19:16] I'm curious, ts? [19:17] typo [19:17] oh [19:17] Ok so... I will try to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04. At apt upgrade I have a message: python-enum : Conflicts: python-enum34 but 1.1.2-1 is to be installed [19:17] I figured that was likely the thing [19:18] !info python-enum [19:18] Package python-enum does not exist in bionic [19:18] !info python-enum xenial [19:18] python-enum (source: python-enum): robust enumerated type support in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-3 (xenial), package size 8 kB, installed size 42 kB [19:18] booh, i'd say remove it [19:18] H7n [19:19] yep [19:19] need to diner... [19:19] booh, it needs python-enum34 [19:19] thanks. I'm not used to python... I've done it. Seems to be good. [19:20] release upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 should be ok? [19:21] booh, i did it without issues [19:21] ioria: python-enum is available in 18.04, however, I think it's name changed since Python 3.x is default and python-enum is only a Python 2.x library. Python 3 supports enum natively [19:22] pragmaticenigma, yes, probably but the specific pkg not in the repo [19:23] yeah, they backported python 3.x enum library to python 2 ... installs under the package python-enum34 [19:23] yep [19:24] do-release-upgrade give me no new release.. [19:27] ok I use -d [19:29] after upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, should I switch from unity to gnome? Or maybe I don't have this choice too... don't know what to do. [19:30] booh: unity is basically now a modified gnome. You can ofc also use the "normal gnome" [19:30] cant tell you what you like more though ... i hate both and use kde :P [19:31] booh, in theory, unity it's still in the bionic repo and should wotk with gdm3 [19:31] *work [19:31] I believe the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 will continue to use Unity... though I'm not 100% certain on that [19:31] Ok I try :) I'll see... [19:32] !find unitydesktop [19:32] Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 230 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=unitydesktop&searchon=names&suite=bionic§ion=all [19:32] ^^ [19:32] !info unity [19:32] unity (source: unity): Interface designed for efficiency of space and interaction.. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.0+18.04.20180413-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 1748 kB, installed size 6808 kB [19:33] I too have gone to KDE as my primary DE. I find it fits my desired usage cases better. [19:34] booh, if you face issues using unity,try to install unity-session === amirpro_ is now known as amirpro [19:36] booh: there's also MATE flavor. it has a unity clone mode of sorts. [19:36] ryuo, really ? package name ? [19:37] Are core dumps automatically collected in latest bionic beaver? [19:37] ioria: it's part of default mate package set for Ubuntu Mate. [19:37] ryuo, i see [19:37] ioria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bcf03kUn-c [19:38] munity, yes [19:41] !info ubuntu-unity-desktop [19:41] ubuntu-unity-desktop (source: ubuntu-unity-meta): The Ubuntu Unity desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 8 kB (Only available for amd64; arm64; armhf; i386; ppc64el) [19:41] it is still here, and mir8 is in progress === dan01 is now known as hansell [20:02] I have Unity installed and Bluetooth works perfectly there using the built-in system settings panel. When I'm in i3 instead of Unity, is it possible to still use this panel to connect/disconnect bluetooth devices? If so, what's it called? I can't find it in my drun menu [20:04] apetresc: are you referring to managing bluetooth from the "System Settings" application found in the launcher or the are you using the Applet in the top menu bar of the desktop? [20:05] pragmaticenigma: I guess I thought they were the same thing (as in, both interfacing with the same backend). Both work fine in Unity and I'd be fine with either one in i3 [20:06] I don't know how to get to either one from i3 though [20:06] apetresc: If you are running Ubuntu 16.04, try "unity-control-center" ... if you are running 17.10 or 18.04, try "gnome-control-center" [20:06] apetresc: Here is the information I was able to find: https://askubuntu.com/a/116659 [20:07] Ah, thanks [20:07] Does it need to be run as a certain user or something? [20:07] Because it comes up with a blank sidebar in i3 === capella is now known as capella|away [20:10] apetresc: I don't believe it would be certain user... it might be looking for a compistor or specific feature of unity's window manager for display that isn't available in i3 [20:11] nacc, aside from testing linux 4.18rc6 to confirm the bug is still present as i was requested, i tested linux 4.15 RC versions and i found linux 4.15rc4 is the first version where this bug im having occurs. Any ideas what could i do to further debug this? [20:13] apetresc: I believe that system settings is providing an interface to blueman... though I'm not too familiar with bluetooth in Linux [20:13] danieru98: you bisect the kernel. You know the bug is between 4.15 RC and the previous dev release. You can get more details and help at #ubuntu-kernel [20:13] i'm not sure what more to suggest... google searches for me are leading towards manage bluetooth in Unity then switch to i3 [20:14] mkfs.ext4 on a 600gb gpt partition i just created gives `/dev/sda2 contains '5View capture file' data Proceed anyway?` what is that, is it a problem? [20:14] hggdh, thanks [20:16] causasui: was that drive being used for network packet capture, or other sys admin purposes where log files, video data, or other data would have been logging to? [20:17] It is a drive usually intended for that purpose but I am just backing up some data on it [20:18] danieru98: that's probably great info for the bug; beyond that yo'd need to do a git bisect to get any more info [20:22] nacc, sounds like lots of recompiles of the kernel, im glad i forced myself to learn the basics when i used gentoo. And they said using gentoo for one year was useless lol [20:23] pragmaticenigma: any suggestions? [20:25] causasui: I would verify that nothing is currently still configured to use that drive as a log destination. If nothing is there, and all the data on there is accounted for (meaning you've verified you don't care about it) you could proceed [20:29] i cannot for the life of me get my ethernet port to work on this 18.04 lubuntu install, i was having the same issues with my laptop (they use the same chipset Realtek 8168) and fixed it on my laptop but the same steps haven't worked on this desktop [20:29] anyone have some ideas for troubleshooting? [20:29] mmazing: and what did you try? [20:29] and what fix was that? [20:29] installed r8168-dkms [20:30] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/r8168-dkms [20:30] yeah, it's installed and ethtool shows the port using r8168 instead of r8169 (r8169 causes issues so it's blacklisted) [20:31] Can I tell Ubuntu what sata HD I want to have as sda or sdb, or is it like the sata port that does it? [20:32] it is hardware based detection indeed, xjkx, there might be a blogpost howto change that, but i would not use that seriously [20:33] xjkx: Instead you can use uuid or label. ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [20:33] xjkx: why does it matter? [20:34] xjkx: if it's for installation, the installer's guided mode lets you choose which drive to install to. [20:34] xjkx: that is typically assigned by the kernel. It may coincidentally match the SATA ports on the motherboard, but that is not certain. [20:35] xjkx: If you are trying to mount or manually address a drive, it is best to find out what it's uuid is and access via the path geirha recommended [20:36] UUIDs... don't map to the actual drive. Usually a FS. [20:36] I mean, way before, when I had two HDs, it was sometimes sda and sometimes sdb, that is my worry, because I want it to at least have the same name every time, so I dont confuse it and end up erasing what I shouldnt, if the kernel is picking it then fine, as long as tomorrow sda will still be sda [20:36] xjkx: in that case, you want to use the unique identifiers for the given drive. [20:37] For the actual drive, it's the stuff under /dev/disk/by-id [20:37] xjkx: From the kernel documentation, the /dev/sd@# is not promised, to ensure you accessing the intended device use the UUID [20:37] sme name? [20:37] if it's for the actual filesystem, then you'd want the UUID stuff. [20:37] i've purged/reinstalled r8168-dkms and no dice, any ideas? [20:38] no idea about that r8169 remark, no [20:39] So...like mkfs.ext4 /dev/disk/The-UUid12 for partition 12? [20:39] No. [20:39] r8169 is the default module that comes with ubuntu that applies to realtek chipsets but doesn't work for mine, there's several guides out there how to fix it and i can't really see anything wrong right now except the port does nothing [20:39] UUIDs only work if the FS is already created. [20:39] trying to figure out other avenues to debug what is going wrong with it [20:39] xjkx: something like: /dev/disk/XXXXX-part12 [20:39] err [20:40] xjkx: something like: /dev/disk/by-id/XXXXX-part12 [20:40] xjkx: what exactly are you attempting to do... I don't believe you have provided enough information for anyone to give you an accurate answer [20:44] pragmaticenigma: I just dont want to accidentally erase sdb12 thinking it was sda12 ^^ I'm just not trusting myself, lol, it is that I get used to /dev/sda being my system and /dev/sdb my backup drive, and eventually delete one thinking to be the other, but that's ok I'll get used to uuid I guess === fcastillo_ is now known as fcastillo [21:04] Is it worth it right now to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.1 lts? === person_ is now known as pikapika [21:04] anyone installed openstack by any chance, from scratch ? [21:04] just did it, but it won't connect to the http interface. [21:05] it looks like there is no service listening on port 80 .. :/ [21:05] the openstack documentation does not talk about installing a web server .. [21:05] any input welcome :) === Dreaman is now known as Blade [21:07] saint_: you probalby want #ubuntu-server or #openstack, if you aren't using the ubuntu cloud archive pacakges [21:07] this might be a netplan issue [21:09] oerheks: it's possible, but i'd find that surprising; they installed openstack in the first place, so i assume they have networking; anything above that is not netplan [21:10] netstat -nap|grep 80 does not show anything listening on http, so netplan is out [21:11] www service is not up [21:11] *but* openstack doc does not talk about this in the requirements [21:11] so i assumed it would check / install nginx / apache by itself [21:11] saint_: what was "it" in the second sentence? [21:11] saint_: also, really not an ubuntu support topic if from the upstream src [21:12] they are all sleeping on #openstack. though i'd have more chance here [21:12] nacc "it" was "i just installed it [21:14] saint .. it's netstat -nap | grep 80 [21:14] man_yo ? [21:15] saint_: it's not ubuntu packages or anything with ubuntu, sorry. [21:15] saint_: "it won't connect to the http interface" [21:16] nacc sorry. it, being my browser or a telnet on the machine on port 80 .. [21:16] saint_: what does that have to do with openstack? [21:16] saint_: it sounds like *you* are expecting a browser, not openstack; in any case, your question seems misworded, and this is the wrong place :) [21:17] nacc openstack offers a WWW interface ("Horizon"). I thought it (the www server) would be installed by default [21:17] saint your command is not exact [21:17] man_yo how it is not ? [21:18] I'm using mkfs.ext4 to format a 200 GB iscsi disk.. it's on the step of Creating journal (262144 blocks): [21:18] and it's been doing it for like 30 minutes. Is this normal or abnormal? [21:18] s/is it/ [21:18] saint_: https://docs.openstack.org/horizon/latest/install/install-ubuntu.html says us a package, and that package depends on apache2. [21:19] nacc good point. i based myself on the https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack documentation [21:19] saint_: https://docs.openstack.org/horizon/latest/install/from-source.html says if doing from src, "Deployment:" install apache2. [21:19] which is obviously incomplete regarding the requirements .. [21:19] saint_: so you used conjure-up? [21:19] nacc thanks for being my 2nd pair of eyes. [21:19] nacc yes [21:19] saint_: uh. [21:20] saint_: that's *not* from scratch [21:20] saint_: that's ... using conjure-up [21:20] saint_: if you use conjure-up, i think there's an irc channel for it, or you want #ubuntu-server. [21:20] nacc i will check it out. thanks a ton for the help [21:20] saint_: yw [21:21] saint you must put a space in this command ..... netstat -anp | grep 80 [21:22] Howdy. New to IRC. Just upgraded Ubuntu from 17.10 to 1804 on relatively new (to me) Motherboard. My integral Ethernet chip, RTL8111E, seems not to be found. Any suggestions? [21:22] man_yo: there were spaces in their command. [21:23] nacc grep does not need space. [21:24] netstat -nap|grep 80 or netstat -nap | grep 80 gives the same result [21:24] saint_: yes, you're right, i saw their paste as yours; in any case, your comand was/is fine, and man_yo is incorrect [21:26] it's correct for me.. i just test it [21:28] man_yo: spaces are not necessary. Your command and saint_'s are functionally the same. [21:30] ok [21:40] hi guys! :) [21:41] are you able to search in the file dialogue? [21:41] it fails here, it only searches for the first letter [21:41] with the rest you write, it tries to replicate the old type ahead behaviour [22:23] i miss gnome 2 too [22:26] used to be able to type in nautilus and it would highlight the folder, no need to to a full blown search [22:26] to do* [22:26] much faster [22:27] howdy folks... i have a snap application with a lot of *.desktop files in its common/app-data/applications directory- how can i set that directory where the ubuntu mate desktop menu will see it ? [22:27] ffejj: you may want to ask in #snappy [22:29] ok, done (but plz if anyone knows say something here too haha) === precise is now known as precise|pedant [22:31] ffejj: copy them over to ~/.local/share/applications, or create symlinks [22:32] brainwash: yes... but.. when a new .desktop file is created, i would like for it to be added to the menu too :) [22:32] why would mate not see them? [22:32] idk is there a way to tell mate which directories to read .desktop from? [22:37] .. why would a snap suddenly create a desktop file.. [22:37] because it's an android emulator and it makes .desktops of installed apks [22:39] hello, i'm root and when trying to mkdir xyz i get: mkdir: cannot create directory ‘xyz’: Operation not permitted, i'm puzzled with this, how should i proceed to find out what's wrong in there? [22:41] ffejj: i think applications/ supports subdirs [22:41] nacc: it seems like i have already tried that but i will double check. [22:41] ffejj: did you try just making a symlink from ~/.local/share/applications/ -> ~/snap/common/app-data/applications ? [22:42] ffejj: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s02.html based upon the example for /usr/share/applications [22:42] oh youc an also aparently add it toXDG_DATA_DIRS? === gpap_ is now known as gpap [22:43] yeah, i was just investigating XDG_DATA_DIRS [22:43] so do snaps include all the resources? [22:46] yukip: depending on what you mean by resources, yes [22:47] yukip: snaps ships all their dependencies in the snap, generally speaking [22:48] ok [22:49] hi, i've configured manual link-local addresses in netplan but the auto generated EUI-64 link-local addresses are still being added, i've disabled autoconf and set accept-ra to no, any ideas? [22:49] h [22:49] hi [22:50] jacks_: disable link-local addressing? [22:51] ryuo: that would break ipv6 [22:51] jacks_: you are using networkd as the backend? [22:52] ryuo: i'm using netplan [22:52] jacks_: yes, but it has to be rendering to another network configuration system. [22:52] that's networkd or NetworkManager. [22:53] ryuo: yeah netplan. [22:53] what's your renderer line then? [22:53] ryuo: there isn't one - what's it used for? [22:55] ryuo: oh i see what you mean, its systemd-networkd [22:56] jacks_: accept-ra won't effect LL stuff because that's independent of RAs... [22:56] jacks_: only way I know of is to disable LLA entirely and rely upon your static configured ones. [22:57] ryuo: how does one do that ? [22:57] jacks_: because the kernel will automatically generate one. [22:57] ryuo: right, i thought it was from the advertisement [22:57] jacks_: yes... that only applies to RA prefixes. [22:57] ok [22:58] Hm [22:58] ryuo: then i would have thought disabling autoconf in sysctl would disable that? === arnaud is now known as Guest2860 [22:58] what was the command you used to do that? [22:59] sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf=0 [22:59] why does ubuntu takes so long to downlaod [22:59] *download [22:59] jacks_: was this before or after the address was configured? [22:59] hi, xserver-xorg-video-openchrome driver requires resetting monitor settings for normal display (VGA: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M890 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 02)), I do that by setting lxrandr, but that does not set such configuration for the login screen (lightdm i believe). [22:59] !download [22:59] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Bionic, and help keeping the servers' load low! [23:00] Aaron: its the solar flares [23:00] Aaron, did you do the donation? [23:00] is there a way to make that configuration persistent, including for the login screen? [23:00] ryuo: i added it to /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf && reboot [23:00] lol I donate with my time and effort of creating Ubuntu better [23:01] jacks_: what was the line? [23:01] jacks_: net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf=0 ? [23:02] ryuo: yes [23:02] Curious... [23:02] jacks_: and to be sure, did you check it's set to 0; if the network is setup in your initrd, you mightneed to update your initramfs (or pass it on the kernel command line to be sure)? [23:02] I wonder what networkd is doing. [23:03] yea, that's a possibility. [23:03] i feel like system settings, esp. networking, it's best to do it as early as possible, just in case [23:03] systemd runs quite early, nt sure on systemd-networkd itself [23:03] nacc: yea... that's why i don't use netplan on my server. :/ [23:03] nacc: yes it's definately 0 [23:04] it fails to rename interfaces. [23:04] i just use networkd directly. [23:04] or maybe, is there a script/package that sets this? lubuntu 15.10 used to work fine, but that driver came with the installation. [23:04] openchromehelp: yes, maybe? try writing an X11 configuration file under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d [23:05] nacc: its just netplan [23:05] nacc: it wasn't working earlier because all of my symlinks were malformed ;) [23:05] ffejj: ah :) [23:06] jacks_: not sure what you mean by "just netplan" [23:06] jacks_: that's only one part of the setup of networking [23:06] LPT: ln -s /full/path/original /full/path/link [23:06] nacc: netplan with systemd-networkd [23:07] jacks_: but in any case, i'd still make sure the sysctl is set correctly in the initrd env (you can boot with init=/bin/bash to see, or just pass it unconditionally on the kernel cmdline) [23:07] jacks_: it does no harm to test it ) [23:07] nacc: any guide on the initrd env setup? [23:07] hi all, I just upgrade my server from 16.04.4 to 18.04.1. when I use apt-get to install anything it is still getting packages from the xenial repos. how can I fix this? [23:07] BlindWiz: how do you know? [23:08] BlindWiz, check you're /etc/apt/sources.list [23:08] if you mean 3rd party, you may need to adjust them manually. [23:08] Aaron: that reads check you are /etc/apt/sources.list [23:08] what? [23:09] Aaron ok, it is still set for xenail. can I just replace xenial with bionic and I'll be update to date? [23:09] thanks guys. i'll look into the initrd setup [23:10] yes BlindWiz after that just do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [23:10] ryao what do you mean "how do I know?" when using apt-get it shows the url where its dl'ing packages from [23:11] AAA_awright why do you think the upgrade from 16 to 18 didn't update this file? [23:11] Aaron sorry, mis-typed your name [23:11] just type apt-get autoclean [23:12] hopefully you don't get any errors; [23:12] BlindWiz: You should check both the ubuntu and 3rd party repos (PPAs...) [23:14] jacks_: i think you just need to run `sudo update-initramfs -u -k all` [23:14] Aaron type apt-get autoclean after I replace xenail with bionic? and then do a apt-get update &&& apt-get dist-upgrade? [23:14] yes BlindWiz [23:14] Aaron working on it now. Thanks. [23:14] BlindWiz: how did you upgrade? [23:14] okay. [23:15] nacc I used the tool do-release-upgrade ... Why? [23:16] BlindWiz: just wondering, as that probably shouldn't have happened; did you use -d or anything? [23:16] nacc no, I just the normal command... [23:17] but I've seen worse issues happen when upgrading. at least this one is easy to fix in my /etc/apt/sources.list file. :) [23:17] i wonder why the updater did not replace xenial with bionic? [23:17] yeah it seems like a bug [23:17] k [23:17] then report the bug [23:17] lol [23:17] so at least developers have it in mind. [23:18] Aaron: i assume you are asking BlindWiz to do so; please direct the message to them [23:18] lol [23:18] Don't worry if. I see a bug. I report it. [23:19] Aaron: you shouldn't just report random bugs, unless you can reproduce them. [23:21] i actually i have that happened before in the past but that has been so long ago. [23:22] aaron thaniks. its working great now. [23:22] No problem BlindWiz [23:22] any time. [23:22] now I have 7 cloud instances to upgrade to 18.04.1... so if I can get this issue to reproduce some more I'll report it. [23:24] nacc: thanks ill look into it when i get back [23:25] hello, i managed to fix my login issue, i needed to reinstall my nvidia drivers, now my second monitor is flashing on and off every now and then [23:26] im using 18.04.1 [23:26] !nvidia [23:26] For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » [23:30] i alreaddy installed the proprietary drivers [23:30] im not havving anny issues with that, i just want to know why my screen is flickering [23:31] SpeedrunnerG55: i'd look to correlate that behavior with syslog or dmesg output [23:31] maybe Xorg.0.log output [23:34] hey [23:37] i dont recognise anything in the log ill pastebin it [23:38] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WdfRWYXQSx/ [23:39] i notice beofre the screen goes black it will shake a little from side to side [23:43] it seams to be tied to my mousemovements, it will go black whenever i move my mouse a lot [23:47] i see a workaround there: dont move it! [23:47] your log's first error message is "systemd-logind: TakeControl failed:" ... i'd search for this [23:48] if the first one doesn't find anything relevant, try "(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [23:48] SpeedrunnerG55: === radice is now known as radice|ronf [23:54] i think it had something to do with the launcher [23:54] i disabled auto-hide launcher and now its not flicjkering [23:55] Having trouble with the installer. Machine can’t find an internet connection. [23:56] How can I troubleshoot this? === feodoran is now known as Guest141 === feodoran_ is now known as feodoran