| lotuspsychje | yes!! its raining | 01:53 |
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| lotuspsychje | and good mornin :p | 01:53 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: xenial received upgrade window yet? | 02:01 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: Heya | 02:25 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: https://lubuntu.me/taking-a-new-direction/ | 02:25 |
| lotuspsychje | morning tsimonq2 | 02:25 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: nice tsimonq2 | 02:26 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: no point supporting ancient boxes indeed | 02:27 |
| lotuspsychje | with all those cpu exploits.. | 02:28 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: if users need/want they can use minimal lubuntu install right | 02:29 |
| lotuspsychje | tune down their needs anyway | 02:29 |
| lotuspsychje | and if the machine cant handle that anymore, its ready for the recycle | 02:30 |
| tsimonq2 | lotuspsychje: Don't spread this too much but I have somethong else in mknd... https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32 | 02:31 |
| tsimonq2 | *mind | 02:31 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 02:31 |
| lotuspsychje | nice plan | 02:32 |
| lotuspsychje | i always loved linux users choice | 02:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Right :) | 02:33 |
| lotuspsychje | like those early redhat install where we could choose kde or gnome and individual packages | 02:34 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah | 02:36 |
| lotuspsychje | tsimonq2: so, some new energy for UWN on lubuntu this week :p | 02:37 |
| tsimonq2 | hehe | 02:38 |
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| Bashing-om | tsimonq2: Ya want to leave the softpedia article as exclusive coverage in UWN or also include your blog in this issue ? | 03:29 |
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| EriC^^ | morning all | 05:43 |
| lotuspsychje | hey morning EriC^^ | 05:47 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 05:56 |
| lotuspsychje | its raining EriC^^ :p | 05:57 |
| lotuspsychje | cool breeze tru the open doors :p | 05:57 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 05:57 |
| Bashing-om | Heber Springs, AR: Temp: 68°F (20°C) ~ Clear ~ Humidity: 94% ~ Wind: Calm ~ Observed: Sat 28, 00:55 | 06:00 |
| lotuspsychje | feels good now | 06:02 |
| Bashing-om | A very nice and welcome respite . | 06:03 |
| lotuspsychje | yess | 06:03 |
| lovepopsickle | lotuspsychje, needs a new hobby | 06:06 |
| lovepopsickle | probably get mad me talking in here | 06:06 |
| mwsb | Calm down. | 06:07 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah talk here | 06:07 |
| mwsb | No point in keeping a feud going. | 06:07 |
| lovepopsickle | lotuspsychje, maybe look at your logs about me trying to talk here and trying to stop that | 06:07 |
| mwsb | Just let it go and move on. | 06:07 |
| Bashing-om | exit - stage left \o | 06:12 |
| guiverc | danger will robinson: that brought back old memories; but what about the younger gen who never watched lost in space? (the lucky ones??) | 06:18 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 06:39 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:31 |
| ducasse | hi BluesKaj | 10:32 |
| EriC^^ | hi BluesKaj | 10:32 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse, EriC^^ , how are you guys today? | 10:33 |
| ducasse | fine, thanks - and you, BluesKaj? | 10:33 |
| BluesKaj | doing fine here , thanks, ducasse | 10:34 |
| EriC^^ | BluesKaj: good thanks, you? | 10:34 |
| ducasse | we were promised rain today, but it keeps getting postponed :( | 10:34 |
| BluesKaj | yup, fine EriC^^ | 10:34 |
| BluesKaj | ducasse, yeah, we had the same problem for a few weeks here, now we multiple forest fires in the region, not threatneing us tho. | 10:37 |
| BluesKaj | have | 10:37 |
| BluesKaj | firefighters from as far as Mexico have been brought in to help...serious stuff | 10:38 |
| ducasse | lack of rain is a real issue here as well, yet we still send people and gear to sweden | 10:39 |
| BluesKaj | seems to be happening everywhere | 10:40 |
| ducasse | this summer is pretty harsh | 10:42 |
| BluesKaj | global warming seems to be a fact by now, not just speculation like some naysayers call it | 10:46 |
| BluesKaj | we had almost a monthe 30+ degrees C here, very unusual | 10:47 |
| BluesKaj | with very little rain, the forests are tinder dry | 10:48 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 16:06 |
| lotuspsychje | upgrade window noticed yet on xenial guys? | 16:11 |
| tomreyn | wont happen until sarnold + co push some buttons | 16:17 |
| tomreyn | +hi | 16:17 |
| lotuspsychje | ah kk tnx tomreyn | 16:17 |
| oerheks | so bvargo is back to square 1, where we left of an hour ago | 16:24 |
| lotuspsychje | oO | 16:25 |
| tomreyn | and i think their 'malware' is a cover story. | 16:27 |
| tomreyn | oh wait permissions were ret by itself? | 16:28 |
| tomreyn | *reset | 16:28 |
| lotuspsychje | perhaps they scanned with outdated clamav :p | 16:28 |
| tomreyn | or zfs ;) | 16:29 |
| oerheks | i was messing around with permissions the other day. i forget why, but can we track that down? there i hooked off | 16:30 |
| lotuspsychje | cant recall here | 16:31 |
| lotuspsychje | !info apt | 19:26 |
| ubot5 | apt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.3 (bionic), package size 1164 kB, installed size 3850 kB | 19:26 |
| lotuspsychje | wb hggdh | 19:46 |
| lotuspsychje | !info nvidia390 | 19:54 |
| ubot5 | Package nvidia390 does not exist in bionic | 19:54 |
| hggdh | just upgraded one cloud server to 18.04.1, uneventful | 19:57 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 19:58 |
| hggdh | still nice. This instance runs my weechat and a few IRC bots (so a small server), and everything survived | 20:04 |
| oerheks | we are so happy with you, hggdh | 20:57 |
| hggdh | oerheks: so I upgraded two of my servers to 18.04*. One as soon as 18.04 was released -- barfed at the end of upgrade, but still rebooted in 18.04; | 21:09 |
| hggdh | and this one, with no issues at all | 21:09 |
| hggdh | now I am starting to think of upgrading the others | 21:09 |
| pragmaticenigma | TJ-: Howdy! | 22:17 |
| TJ- | pragmaticenigma: don't get me started! | 22:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | haha... I see potential.. but you're right.. it's too much like the windows ecosystem... and devs do not understand the risk of packaging other libraries with their "snap" | 22:19 |
| pragmaticenigma | I think right below "Do not roll your own encryption" will soon stand, "Do not bundle other people's apps with yours" | 22:19 |
| pragmaticenigma | on a different note... it's possible with the latest kernels... my issue with those laptops and power saving the screen causing strange behavior might have gone away in 18.04 TJ- | 22:21 |
| TJ- | pragmaticenigma: that's good news! | 22:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | time will tell of course... just spun up 18.04.1 on one of them today... further testing to commence | 22:22 |
| TJ- | I had a long time to wait trying to get the bluetooth-attached keyboard/touchpad dock to correctly use multi-touch instead of pretending to be just a mouse... I spent days trying to figure it out, gave up, then after one update it began to work as intended | 22:23 |
| pragmaticenigma | The frustration has been that it worked flawlessly for a number of years, then starting around Ubuntu 14, that screen issue started up | 22:23 |
| pragmaticenigma | I tried a number of the suggestions you had. playing with setterm commands... thought I had it pinned down to which monitor power save state was causing it and which one was fine... and then it would randomly change things up on me | 22:24 |
| TJ- | yeah, I had something similar with a PCI sub-system breakage around 4.3 that still hasn't been fixed, devices that mapped under a PCI bridge previously no longer can, and therefore the devices don't work. | 22:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | I know they dropped a whole lot of legacy architectures from the kernel, might have incidentally solved my issue | 22:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | off to neighbors open house... catch up later... good to see ya here again TJ- ... been awhile | 22:26 |
| TJ- | one of the problems of the kernel development process and distros is, for many people, the breakage takes a while to make it into the distro, but which time the change that caused it, and the developer(s) responsible, become very hard to pin down | 22:27 |
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| ducasse | hi TJ- - all well at the farm? | 22:53 |
| TJ- | ducasse: yeah... wish I could say the same for software! | 22:54 |
| ducasse | it never all behaves at the same time, does it? | 22:56 |
| TJ- | No! I've been trying to get vagrant to fire up an ubuntu/bionic64 VM with libvirt today... breakage at every step, still not solved | 22:57 |
| TJ- | no-one responding in the #vagrant channel in 12 hours so far | 22:57 |
| TJ- | I've quickly learned to despise Ruby too :p | 22:58 |
| ducasse | lol, add it to the list :) | 22:58 |
| TJ- | Annoying part is, even with debug level logging, nothing is revealed. Come back shell scripts, "set -x",all is forgiven | 23:01 |
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