| === GridCube_ is now known as GridCube | ||
| Babloyi | "The software on this computer is up-to-date" while I'm on xubuntu 16.04 still :( | 05:17 |
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| Andrio | sudo do-release-upgrade ? | 05:17 |
| Babloyi | nope | 05:33 |
| Babloyi | Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found. | 05:33 |
| flocculant | Babloyi: I suspect that it's down to the meta-release file not showing bionic, also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_16.04_LTS | 09:38 |
| Babloyi | for any new version? | 09:54 |
| Babloyi | isn't 18.04 LTS? | 09:55 |
| Babloyi | I wanted to upgrade smoothly from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS since April, but I was told that I should wait till 18.04.1 for that | 10:04 |
| Babloyi | but now that won't help either, and I should just force it? | 10:04 |
| kgb | Babloyi in pr4actice it's "better" to wait; but, I mean, WHO (in the world) is gonna have patience for that!..:) | 10:07 |
| Babloyi | :D | 10:08 |
| Babloyi | I thought I did | 10:08 |
| Babloyi | I mean, I probably still can | 10:08 |
| Babloyi | it IS going to happen at some point, right? | 10:08 |
| kgb | gah, if it's nothing too, too, mission-critical... what could go wrong, at the end of the day. =) | 10:08 |
| Babloyi | hahahah | 10:08 |
| Babloyi | I use this laptop for work too | 10:08 |
| kgb | :-s hihi | 10:08 |
| Babloyi | I mean, I'll back up everything, but still | 10:09 |
| kgb | in all seriousness, 16.04.3 << had switched to the rolling-kernel, correct?? there shouldn't be any major issues, in theory, any longer - right ?? :o | 10:10 |
| Babloyi | I don't think I'm on .3 :D | 10:10 |
| Spass | "there shouldn't be any major issues" famous last words ;) | 10:11 |
| Babloyi | hahahaha | 10:11 |
| kgb | or .2 or something, don't take my word for it; i've been afk, for the past couple of months (wouldn't believe me why if I told you. :)) | 10:11 |
| kgb | *I wouldn't believe me | 10:12 |
| Spass | besides backups there are two important things I do before backups - I manually disable all not official PPA/repos I have (I know that the updater do it automagically, but I want to have a control over that) and most important - I switch back to open source graphic drivers, so in my case nouveoueoue... something | 10:14 |
| Spass | *before upgrades | 10:14 |
| Babloyi | I was never able to get the nouveoeouou to work properly in the first place :( | 10:15 |
| Spass | like not work at all? black screen and such? | 10:15 |
| Babloyi | something like that. I tried it quite a while back. Maybe 2015 or something | 10:17 |
| Babloyi | the whole process was quite complicated, and I finally gave up :( | 10:17 |
| Babloyi | sometimes I don't think games even pick up on my nvidia card, and just use the integrated one | 10:18 |
| Spass | it always worked fine on my machines (old laptop with NVS 3100M and desktop... old too :( ... with GTX650Ti) | 10:19 |
| Spass | yeah I always switch to proper NVIDIA drivers right away | 10:19 |
| Babloyi | it's quite funny, because originally, on my old laptop, with worse specs, I had fewer problems :D | 10:19 |
| kgb | hey, but... i *am* seeing "18.04.1" @Babloyi | 10:19 |
| kgb | :-o | 10:19 |
| Babloyi | where? :O | 10:19 |
| kgb | web site, sec | 10:20 |
| Babloyi | oh yeah | 10:20 |
| Babloyi | I see that too | 10:20 |
| kgb | https://xubuntu.org/news/18-04-1-released/ | 10:20 |
| kgb | :o | 10:20 |
| Spass | it's out, but some users will not see an upgrade notification yet | 10:20 |
| Babloyi | but doing "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade && sudo apt autoremove" gives me no changes | 10:20 |
| Babloyi | and "sudo do-release-upgrade" tells me that No new release found | 10:21 |
| Spass | Babloyi, and the graphical update-manager doesn't give you anything yet? | 10:21 |
| Babloyi | nope :D | 10:21 |
| Babloyi | I am up-to-date! | 10:21 |
| Spass | so you probably need to wait a day or two more, sad times | 10:22 |
| Babloyi | hahahah | 10:22 |
| Spass | and what if you change to "Notify on every new release" in the software-properties-gtk? | 10:22 |
| Babloyi | oh, yeah, it shows up then | 10:23 |
| Babloyi | if I do update-manager -d in the terminal, it shows up as well | 10:23 |
| Babloyi | but that's just forcing it, no? | 10:23 |
| Spass | I would say that it's a "very gentle force", but still, yeah, official way is to wait | 10:24 |
| Babloyi | Currently I have "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" set to "For long-term support versions" | 10:25 |
| Spass | I would probably just upgrade it in GUI with "for every new release" option, but I can't really recommend it to you, I don't want to be blamed if your machine blows up :P | 10:28 |
| Spass | anyway, that "changing to nouveau before the upgrade if you're on proprietary" is an important thing | 10:31 |
| Spass | (fun fact, "nouveau" and "proprietary" are the two words I almost always have problems to write correctly in conversations, I hate them) | 10:35 |
| Babloyi | so Spass, what you're saying is that under the "Additional Drivers" tab, I should switch the "NVidia Corporation...." thing from "Using NVidia binary driver... (proprietary)" to "Using X.Org X Server -- Nouveau display driver (open source)"? | 10:44 |
| Babloyi | because that never worked before :D | 10:44 |
| Spass | well, I always do that, but from what you're saying that's not a perfect solution for everyone ;) | 10:46 |
| Spass | I always though more people had problems with booting to desktop after the upgrade when they were on proprietary during the upgrade | 10:47 |
| Spass | I think flocculant might have something more to say about that | 10:47 |
| Spass | but if you really have problems with "nouveau" - yeah, good backups may be much needed after the upgrade... | 10:49 |
| Spass | and you can beforehand make a bootable USB with 18.04.1 just in case :) | 10:50 |
| Spass | download the ISO, use Etcher (for example) or 'dd' to "burn" it | 10:50 |
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| flocculant | Babloyi: at the end of the day - when Canonical switch the upgrades on properly you will see it - we don't have any control over it | 11:16 |
| Babloyi | awww | 11:17 |
| Babloyi | when will they do it? | 11:17 |
| flocculant | if I knew the exact time I would have told you a few days ago ;) | 11:17 |
| flocculant | I know what you know assuming you read the wiki page I linked | 11:17 |
| Babloyi | :D | 11:18 |
| Spass | hmm, I have some issues with my power saving settings lately, maybe it's related to the 18.04 upgrade, my monitor doesn't want to dim and "xflock4" command does nothing | 12:40 |
| well_laid_lawn | the monitor dimming should not havve anything to do with the os afaik | 12:42 |
| Spass | not sure if that's related - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MXnd2vNC4C/ | 12:45 |
| Spass | ok, I think I know what's wrong, need to test | 12:53 |
| Spass | heh, yeah, somehow the light-locker was disabled in Application Autostart settings, I have no idea who did that ;) | 12:59 |
| Spass | it works fine now, and you're right about the dimming, that's probably on laptops mostly, what I was missing was the "black-out" | 13:00 |
| well_laid_lawn | ok | 13:01 |
| Ofloo` | Ever since i upgraded to 18.04 whenever lightlocker is active the login screen size changes to something 640x480, also got multiple screens and they become mirror once i login everything is normal again | 16:41 |
| Spass | funny, I had the same issue with low resolution light-locker just few minutes ago, but I'm checking it now and it's ok | 17:09 |
| Spass | Ofloo`, you're on NVIDIA drivers maybe? | 17:10 |
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| cousteau` | I should've used a live usb | 20:56 |
| cousteau` | this cd reader sounds like a rusty robot | 20:57 |
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| === Guest58098 is now known as Lengsdorfer | ||
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