[05:17] <Babloyi> "The software on this computer is up-to-date" while I'm on xubuntu 16.04 still :(
[05:17] <Andrio> sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[05:33] <Babloyi> nope
[05:33] <Babloyi> Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found.
[09:38] <flocculant> Babloyi: I suspect that it's down to the meta-release file not showing bionic, also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_16.04_LTS
[09:54] <Babloyi> for any new version?
[09:55] <Babloyi> isn't 18.04 LTS?
[10:04] <Babloyi> I wanted to upgrade smoothly from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS since April, but I was told that I should wait till 18.04.1 for that
[10:04] <Babloyi> but now that won't help either, and I should just force it?
[10:07] <kgb> Babloyi in pr4actice it's "better" to wait; but, I mean, WHO (in the world) is gonna have patience for that!..:)
[10:08] <Babloyi> :D
[10:08] <Babloyi> I thought I did
[10:08] <Babloyi> I mean, I probably still can
[10:08] <Babloyi> it IS going to happen at some point, right?
[10:08] <kgb> gah, if it's nothing too, too, mission-critical... what could go wrong, at the end of the day. =)
[10:08] <Babloyi> hahahah
[10:08] <Babloyi> I use this laptop for work too
[10:08] <kgb> :-s hihi
[10:09] <Babloyi> I mean, I'll back up everything, but still
[10:10] <kgb> in all seriousness, 16.04.3 << had switched to the rolling-kernel, correct?? there shouldn't be any major issues, in theory, any longer - right ?? :o
[10:10] <Babloyi> I don't think I'm on .3 :D
[10:11] <Spass> "there shouldn't be any major issues" famous last words ;)
[10:11] <Babloyi> hahahaha
[10:11] <kgb> or .2 or something, don't take my word for it; i've been afk, for the past couple of months (wouldn't believe me why if I told you. :))
[10:12] <kgb> *I wouldn't believe me
[10:14] <Spass> besides backups there are two important things I do before backups - I manually disable all not official PPA/repos I have (I know that the updater do it automagically, but I want to have a control over that) and most important - I switch back to open source graphic drivers, so in my case nouveoueoue... something
[10:14] <Spass> *before upgrades
[10:15] <Babloyi> I was never able to get the nouveoeouou to work properly in the first place :(
[10:15] <Spass> like not work at all? black screen and such?
[10:17] <Babloyi> something like that. I tried it quite a while back. Maybe 2015 or something
[10:17] <Babloyi> the whole process was quite complicated, and I finally gave up :(
[10:18] <Babloyi> sometimes I don't think games even pick up on my nvidia card, and just use the integrated one
[10:19] <Spass> it always worked fine on my machines (old laptop with NVS 3100M and desktop... old too :( ... with GTX650Ti)
[10:19] <Spass> yeah I always switch to proper NVIDIA drivers right away
[10:19] <Babloyi> it's quite funny, because originally, on my old laptop, with worse specs, I had fewer problems :D
[10:19] <kgb> hey, but... i *am* seeing "18.04.1" @Babloyi
[10:19] <kgb> :-o
[10:19] <Babloyi> where? :O
[10:20] <kgb> web site, sec
[10:20] <Babloyi> oh yeah
[10:20] <Babloyi> I see that too
[10:20] <kgb> https://xubuntu.org/news/18-04-1-released/
[10:20] <kgb> :o
[10:20] <Spass> it's out, but some users will not see an upgrade notification yet
[10:20] <Babloyi> but doing "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade && sudo apt autoremove" gives me no changes
[10:21] <Babloyi> and "sudo do-release-upgrade" tells me that No new release found
[10:21] <Spass> Babloyi, and the graphical update-manager doesn't give you anything yet?
[10:21] <Babloyi> nope :D
[10:21] <Babloyi> I am up-to-date!
[10:22] <Spass> so you probably need to wait a day or two more, sad times
[10:22] <Babloyi> hahahah
[10:22] <Spass> and what if you change to "Notify on every new release" in the software-properties-gtk?
[10:23] <Babloyi> oh, yeah, it shows up then
[10:23] <Babloyi> if I do update-manager -d in the terminal, it shows up as well
[10:23] <Babloyi> but that's just forcing it, no?
[10:24] <Spass> I would say that it's a "very gentle force", but still, yeah, official way is to wait
[10:25] <Babloyi> Currently I have "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" set to "For long-term support versions"
[10:28] <Spass> I would probably just upgrade it in GUI with "for every new release" option, but I can't really recommend it to you, I don't want to be blamed if your machine blows up :P
[10:31] <Spass> anyway, that "changing to nouveau before the upgrade if you're on proprietary" is an important thing
[10:35] <Spass> (fun fact, "nouveau" and "proprietary" are the two words I almost always have problems to write correctly in conversations, I hate them)
[10:44] <Babloyi> so Spass, what you're saying is that under the "Additional Drivers" tab, I should switch the "NVidia Corporation...." thing from "Using NVidia binary driver... (proprietary)" to "Using X.Org X Server -- Nouveau display driver (open source)"?
[10:44] <Babloyi> because that never worked before :D
[10:46] <Spass> well, I always do that, but from what you're saying that's not a perfect solution for everyone ;)
[10:47] <Spass> I always though more people had problems with booting to desktop after the upgrade when they were on proprietary during the upgrade
[10:47] <Spass> I think flocculant might have something more to say about that
[10:49] <Spass> but if you really have problems with "nouveau" - yeah, good backups may be much needed after the upgrade...
[10:50] <Spass> and you can beforehand make a bootable USB with 18.04.1 just in case :)
[10:50] <Spass> download the ISO, use Etcher (for example) or 'dd' to "burn" it
[11:16] <flocculant> Babloyi: at the end of the day - when Canonical switch the upgrades on properly you will see it - we don't have any control over it
[11:17] <Babloyi> awww
[11:17] <Babloyi> when will they do it?
[11:17] <flocculant> if I knew the exact time I would have told you a few days ago ;)
[11:17] <flocculant> I know what you know assuming you read the wiki page I linked
[11:18] <Babloyi> :D
[12:40] <Spass> hmm, I have some issues with my power saving settings lately, maybe it's related to the 18.04 upgrade, my monitor doesn't want to dim and "xflock4" command does nothing
[12:42] <well_laid_lawn> the monitor dimming should not havve anything to do with the os afaik
[12:45] <Spass> not sure if that's related - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MXnd2vNC4C/
[12:53] <Spass> ok, I think I know what's wrong, need to test
[12:59] <Spass> heh, yeah, somehow the light-locker was disabled in Application Autostart settings, I have no idea who did that ;)
[13:00] <Spass> it works fine now, and you're right about the dimming, that's probably on laptops mostly, what I was missing was the "black-out"
[13:01] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[16:41] <Ofloo`> Ever since i upgraded to 18.04 whenever lightlocker is active the login screen size changes to something 640x480, also got multiple screens and they become mirror once i login everything is normal again
[17:09] <Spass> funny, I had the same issue with low resolution light-locker just few minutes ago, but I'm checking it now and it's ok
[17:10] <Spass> Ofloo`, you're on NVIDIA drivers maybe?
[20:56] <cousteau`> I should've used a live usb
[20:57] <cousteau`> this cd reader sounds like a rusty robot