[00:00] TJ-: Yeah but those I pasted are the only ones currently installed on this fresh system [00:00] latest ossl [00:00] The only two I'd say being of 'sounding' important to me being ubuntu-server and software-properties-common, but that could just be my unfamiliariety w/ ubuntu too, I didn't check out exactly what they are yet [00:00] nate: why not use 18.04 LTS which has 1.1.10 ? [00:01] !info openssl bionic | nate [00:01] nate: openssl (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility. In component main, is important. Version 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.1 (bionic), package size 528 kB, installed size 1095 kB [00:01] TJ-: Because it still won't have camellia :P [00:01] And I wanted something a little more 'aged'/commonly deployed still [00:02] nate: right, but if you base on 18.04, then your build should have the same ABI as the system libraries, thus avoiding breakages [00:03] Hello? So why my 16.10lts not grab the 18.10? [00:03] But would also be broken to my testing against a still-common ubuntu LTS. I know usual reaction to questions like these are "Why?" and to suggest against it, but I do have some complex development/testing reasons lol. I can go about playing with it myself, I just figured I'd ask in here to save some time lol [00:04] IntelCore: becasue 16.10 will have to upgrade to 10.04, and *then* 18.10 (which is still in development) [00:04] IntelCore: additionally 16.10 is no longer supported (since July 2017) [00:04] ok so 18.10 is not released yet. late [00:05] IntelCore: no. 18.10 means year 2018, *month* 10 [00:05] I just want the 2nd in-release of 18.04 [00:06] IntelCore: then it is probablly easier to re-install. There is no direct path from 16.10 to 18.04.1 [00:07] there is on internet tells how to upgrade [00:07] ok [00:07] go for it, then [00:07] keep in mind -- not supported [00:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BionicUpgrades [00:08] that is [00:08] I can't connect to my ftp [00:08] IntelCore: you told us you are at 16.10. 16.10 is NOT Bionic [00:08] nate: as far as I can see 18.04 has the Camellia algos, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8jWpGKbzRR/ [00:08] it says 16 or 17 to 18 [00:09] IntelCore: there is no Ubuntu 16, 17, or 18 [00:09] Was chatting with nacc here yesterday, my hp kabylake omen won't boot Ubuntu past kernel 4.10.0.28 though I can get up to 17.04 but not 16.x nor 18.x ... (17.04 is 4.10.0.19) [00:09] Is there a bugzilla or tracking system I can enter a bug and maybe work through resolution with devs? Or @ least check for existing similar issues? [00:09] IntelCore: there are 16.04, 16.10, 17.04, 17.10, and 18.04 [00:09] hggdh .. uhm you know what I meant, I hope [00:10] IntelCore: sorry, no, I do not. You told us 16.10. 16.10 is not Bionic. You cannot (easily) upgrade from 16.10 to 18.04.1 [00:10] Hm interesting, a previous one I tested didn't. That could work then o.O [00:10] Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS 64-bit << I got this now [00:10] I've installed the vsftpd and how can i create a root user ? I mean when i try to connect with root it says it is incorrect password [00:11] IntelCore: so you are 16.04. (1) make a backup of anything important to you; (2) run sudo do-release-upgrade [00:11] do-release-upgrade -d said it's not there [00:12] Ah, Launchpad is a thing [00:12] !bug | master [00:12] master: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [00:12] wait ! let me re-save update-manager file [00:13] damn wrong nick === master is now known as capella [00:13] sorry, default Chatzilla install [00:15] Thanks TJ- ... signing up :) [00:15] capella: sounds like you'll need to do "ubuntu-bug linux" [00:16] Scanning the "OMEN" bugs from a generic search for patterns first [00:16] Don't want a dup [00:16] Checking for a new Ubuntu release [00:16] No new release found. [00:17] capella: once you've got a launchpad account, you can also use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug [00:17] IntelCore: what is the output of lsb_release -r [00:18] 16.04 [00:19] and lsb_release -a gives 16.04.5 ? [00:19] Description: Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS [00:19] Release: 16.04 [00:19] Codename: xenial [00:19] in default DE [00:20] IntelCore, new release - are you looking for 18.04 upgrade? it occurs "SOON" after the 18.04.1 release comes out (which it has), but I'd bet soon means monday (london biz hours) [00:21] so check the update tool; "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version:" option is set to "For any new version", and change it if otherwise. [00:21] it said 26th [00:21] but you could read that on that url [00:23] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-July/000234.html are release notes; and quoting ""Users of Ubuntu 16.04 will soon be offered an automatic upgrade to 18.04.1 via Update Manager." [00:24] July 26th [00:24] [00:24] Ubuntu Ubuntu 18.04.1 [00:24] IntelCore: please read,again, the last message from guiverc above [00:28] set update-manager from settings, to get ANY [00:28] hi everybody! [00:28] re-running About, check for updates [00:29] Says up-to-date. So, it's not there [00:31] soon be offered an automatic upgrade to 18.04.1 via Update Manager << yeah, so, I only tried to get upgrade after the release date, and it's not there? [00:32] Is it there? If not pfft.. I can usb the part [00:32] ahh is there a faster way to test xorg.conf config than "reboot and hope it works, if it doesn't, use a live cd to undo it" [00:33] i am pretty miserable trying to get this multigpu/multidisplay setup working [00:33] diag [00:34] tonymke: shouldn't need to reboot, only switch to a tty console and do "sudo systemctl restart lightdm" (or "restart gdm") [00:35] xdiagnose is on your pc [00:35] Ahh, I can't open a terminal without a screen. [00:35] Unless there's some keyboard shortcut I'm missing. [00:35] to kill x [00:36] tonymke: Ctrl+Alt+F2 will get you to tty2 [00:36] tonymke: n [00:36] ahh, that's it [00:36] thanks! [00:37] tonymke: and depending on which ubuntu release, either Alt+F7 or Alt+F1 to return to the GUI [00:37] tonymke: although restarting the ?DM (display manager) will switch ttys correctly [00:40] by the way, 18.04.5 is due aug 2nd [00:41] hmm. was set on hour at tha upgrade tonite. :( [00:54] hmm, i can get to a tty, but not before x restarts in its neverending cycle of restarting [00:55] that is, x is just restarting over and over [00:55] after `systemctl restart gdm` [00:56] tonymke: Ahhh [00:57] I think i'm just going to give up on using the gaming pc with linux. multigpu is undecipherable [00:57] tonymke: I run 3 GPUs and 6 monitors on a laptop so it is possible [00:57] tonymke: and they're nvidia [00:58] It's two titans, two displays each. nvidia's little gui tool claims mosaic wont run the fourth monitor [00:58] so tried doing... x something. some x feature [01:00] multiple x screens united as one logical one. i can't find the name in the nvidia docs i was literally just looking at because i'm irritated and done with this nonsense [01:01] "xinerama" [01:02] morning [01:02] That can be due to the amount or GPU VRAM and the resolutions being used [01:04] tonymke: did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues ? [01:04] tonymke: also, are you sure it's using X, not Wayland ? [01:05] ahh [01:05] i can look in a bit, in the live cd again [01:05] you know you can boot to the console without the GUI starting? [01:06] ahh, yet another thing i'd have to google and be stuck in configuration hell on for four hours [01:07] it does not appear in grub [01:08] tonymke: hit the Esc key as the system boots to get the GRUB boot menu, highlight the entry, press 'e' to edit it, navigate down to the line starting "linux ..." then add to the end "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" then press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot with that change [01:08] tonymke: have to repeatedly tap the Esc key, not just hold it down, as soon as the system firmware completes its POST and starts to load GRUB [01:09] ack [01:09] tonymke: you could also SSH into it from another PC, if it has openssh-server installed [01:10] not a bad idea, assuming i can restart x reliably [01:10] tonymke: remote SSH is the best way to control/diagnose X issues since you don't get interrupted by the GUI [01:11] tonymke: simply "sudo systemctl stop lightdm (or gdm)" and "start" once you've made changes to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf or whatever [01:11] clever :) [01:11] tonymke: then you can watch the system logs in real-time too, with "tail -f /var/log/Xorg.?.log" [01:15] tonymke: if I recall correctly there's also a command-line config tool for nvidia, "nvidia-settings" [01:16] tonymke: but if you need to use commands that talk to the X server you'll have to set the DISPLAY= env-var or use the "-d" option to many x????? commands, e.g. "xrandr -d :0 -q" [01:18] tonymke: or "export DISPLAY=:0" before doing e.g. "xrandr -q" === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:22] Interested in reasonably priced GLOBAL IRC ADVERTISING? Contact me on twitter https://twitter.com/nenolod or linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/nenolod [01:23] umm spam [01:23] lol [01:25] 000 [01:25] 111 [01:26] 222 [01:26] 333 [01:27] 444 [01:31] hmm, making more progress now [01:31] able to get one display from each card working in mosaic [01:31] turning on a third display... killed the keyboard? lol [01:58] Hey, I have an inquiry.... How do I post an article on the Ubuntu site? [02:02] pap, what is the article about? [02:03] Lol... just an idea I wanted to share.. so how do I get it done? [02:04] Hi all, I am currently building virtual appliances using Packer and distributing them to different teams. Is there a tool or framework that is already available which gives a console based self service (like initial network configurations etc) without giving access to user account/shell? [02:05] ubuntu.com will be controlled by Canonical; so you'll have to contact them. if it's community related, best to use an existing site such as the wiki (wiki editors), discourse or community.ubuntu.com (anyone can do it this last one, but it'll get dropped if not fitting guidelines - this may be best for you, but will depend what topic.. which is why i asked) [02:06] Great! I will give it a try [02:20] \😊/ Launchpad clued me into nomodeset... up on the 16.04 currently jumping up as close to Nightly as I can next 18.04 ish [02:21] hp omen 4k back in the house! [02:23] nacc tj- thanks for clues === havenstance_ is now known as havenstance === xubuntu is now known as Guest13317 === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus [03:23] Hello [03:24] And now I'm up on 18.04! Had to temporarily add nomodeset before install, during initial boot, and perm after that [03:24] is there any effort being done towards upgrade-ability from lts to lts [03:30] lapion: The upgrade path is now open .. what is the issue that you see ? [03:52] Bashing-om, it's only open if I set opgrade to any version , not upgrade only to lts [03:55] lapion: And what release is presently installed ? [03:56] 16.04.4 [03:56] 16.04.5 [04:02] lapion: What returns ' grep "Prompt=" /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ? [04:04] Prompt=lts [04:05] lapion: Should workie ... what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' . [04:07] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [04:08] Bashing-om, It won't upgrade on a newer laptop neither [04:15] lapion: How far behind is your mirror : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors ? [04:20] lapion: release notes for 18.04 say the path will open "soon" : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-July/000234.html . Maybe try again Monday ? [04:28] well the other laptop is upgrading right now but I had to set it to any-version.. [04:30] lapion: fingers crossed .. that the path is not through the EOL 17.10 ! [04:31] nope [04:32] the upgrader explicitly named 18.04.1 [04:48] Bashing-om, it worked [04:49] lapion: Great ,, As I live and learn :) [04:52] well the upgrade worked mostly... however the touchpad is not seen anymore [04:52] hmm that was a single boot problem.. [05:00] hey fellas [05:00] i'm running ubuntu 18.04, and wondering about NFS mounts [05:01] is it possible to NFS mount a direcotry within /home/$USERNAME and programs running access it? [05:08] yessir. [05:09] hm tilda got disabled.. why not ask during installation if one wants tilda removed or not.. [05:09] hmm touch screen doe not work anymore.. [05:10] hey everyone if I'm a user (uid/gid 1000) and a member of a group (991) and a folder's permissions are (3775/drwxrwsr-t) - 991:991, why can't I (1000) add files/folders to said directory? [05:19] snekmaster, thank you [05:21] does the install media include some tools for repairing b0rked grub configs? [05:29] cbpye: The install medium has the means to re-install grub . [05:30] Bashing-om: Awesome! I think it's hiding somewhere, though. Can't seem to identify it. [05:31] cbpye: What is the issue ? many times one can fix grub from that liveUSB. [05:32] Issue is that, after installation and upon reboot, I was presented with no prompt and could not press 'e' so that I could add the nomodeset option [05:33] so all I get upon booting is old-school scrambled naughty cable channels. [05:33] booted into the install medium, looking for tools to help fix the issue. [05:33] Muligan, I'm not sure entirely what you want, so I'll give you the gist: NFS mounts work the exact same as regular mounts, except you have to specify the type as NFS so something like 'mount -t NFS :/NFS_directory /where_its_mounted'. For the location, either set that layout on your NFS server or do some kind of bash expansion with the mount command. Finally, once its mounted it would behave like any other filesystem. [05:34] cbpye: EFI system ? then it is the escape key that grub looks for . [05:36] Bashing-om: that right there is a level of inconsistency that is going to have me livid for days. [05:37] granted, it probably wouldn't have been so bad if I were presented with the same old prompts I had been getting through trials of various install media [05:38] or if the installation had taken note of my nonstandard boot line and thought to prompt me with changing the installed boot line [05:38] or if we could just banish the noveau driver to the seventh circle of hell where it belongs. [05:46] Bashing-om: I don't know if it's because I was pressing ESC while booting, but I got the prompt this time and edited the boot line. [05:46] Bashing-om: Thank you for your help! [05:51] cbpye: cbpye Sometimes all it takes is someone to hold you hand :) [05:56] cbpye, nvidia drivers are closed source and prone to bugs nouveau has been really stable for me [06:00] lapion: could it be something else then causing that issue? All of these *buntu installation ISOs default nvidia card users to nouveau, correct? what then could cause my display to not work in ever single instance, unless I add the nomodeset line? [06:03] hi worrying about unforseen going ons i backed up my ubuntu18.04 style server, now an unforseen has occured, so I restored the root-stye /-folder using rsync and then i reinstalled grub and edited etc/fstab, now it wont boot...what do? [06:05] hi? === skullbox is now known as blackmamba [06:05] anyone onlibe? === blackmamba is now known as skullbox [06:15] Screen goes blank. Unable to wakeup my laptop ..i need to restart it always (acpi INT3400:00: Unsupported event [0x86]) === test is now known as Guest23681 [06:16] please help me [06:17] LOL, what is the issue requiring help [06:17] Screen goes blank. Unable to wakeup my laptop ..i need to restart it always (acpi INT3400:00: Unsupported event [0x86]) [06:18] qwebirc42457, its prolly an issue with the latest kernel. just go to you power settings and turn hibernate off. for the time being just start and stop the OS fully [06:18] Really? What were you doing in terms of running apps prior to this happening? [06:19] qwebirc42457, its been happening to me as well [06:19] i have tried all settings related to power...nothing is working [06:20] Wow.... I guess you might just need to throw it on the floor and get another one [06:20] !behelpful | Guest23681 [06:20] Guest23681: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes. [06:20] qwebirc42457, but u stated that u were "waking up your laptop" to me that sounded like you were coming out of hibernation [06:21] Arent we all joking? So why being so hard on yourself [06:21] Guest23681: can you stop that please [06:21] can you stop that please [06:21] * myself makes popcorn [06:21] Guest23681, in main support channels the mods like things to stay professional [06:22] myself: any progress on your bug? [06:22] no [06:22] qwebirc42457, so this happens every time u just try to start the computer normally? [06:23] lotuspsychje: nope. As predicted, wayland crashes with nonfree apps (slack), and xorg exhibits the mouse hang, so I can pick my poison, at least. :) I'll check the ticket for udpates in the coming days.. [06:23] myself: cool ;) [06:23] OK, I guess that I have no choice to abide by your comment but in the meantime I suppose a little joke can't really hurt [06:23] myself: try that shotwell launch from terminal perhaps, if we lucky it might spit usefull errors? [06:23] no......when my laptop goes to sleep ......it cant wake up ......it shows (acpi INT3400:00: Unsupported event [0x86]) ....and i need to restart evrytime [06:24] qwebirc42457, so then u havent turned hibernation off [06:24] qwebirc42457: Where are you seeing the "unsupported event" message, where and when is it displayed? [06:25] when i press some key on the keybord/when i open laptops lid/ anything which wakes up a laptop from sleep.........it shows unsupported event [06:26] Cant you boot to recovery mode and edit the event log to get some details which could perhaps give you some leads? [06:26] qwebirc42457, like i said u need to turn hibernation off. you must have missed one of the setting for it, theres 2 usually [06:26] no dont do that [06:26] just do what i said lol [06:27] Guest23681, please dont put ask people to do stuff that might make their situation worse [06:27] theres no need to put it into recovery mode nor check the logs [06:27] hibernation has always been finiky with linux. if it gives you issues just turn it off. simple [06:29] there are only three actions...sleep,power off,nothing.....in the power settings ...which one should i choose [06:29] qwebirc42457, what desktop are u using? gnome or unity or somethign else [06:30] Well, as I said before.. considering the fact you have used various approaches, pardon my repetituous comment but you probably need it to throw it on the floor [06:30] gnome [06:30] go into settings then power and turn of automatic suspend [06:31] also change the one for pressing the power button so it doesnt suspend === guiverc_d is now known as guiverc [06:32] ok...these might help.....but.....i can never put my laptop in sleep then? [06:32] also if ur the type of person who closes their laptop lid theres an option in the gome tweak tool that causes the computer to suspend when u close the lid. u can turn that one off there as well [06:32] The other alternative would be probably to use your Iphone [06:32] out of curiosity, qwebirc42457, is this you too? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396971 [06:32] qwebirc42457, you dont need to put it to sleep....ever [06:33] I thought we paid for better trolls around here, this one can't even capitalize iPhone properly. Weaksauce. [06:33] myself, lol agreed [06:34] thank you very much skullbox!.......i dunno why do uncivilised ppl like Guest23681 still exist.....thank you very much skull [06:34] Why not putting to sleep? just find a technique similar to coffee to deal with the sleep issue [06:34] qwebirc42457, my pleasure [06:35] Guest23681, ur input isnt needed [06:35] and the tool ur referring to is called caffeine not coffee [06:36] disabling suspend will at least help narrow down the issue. You might find that hibernate works and suspend doesn't, for instance, and be able to work around it that way. [06:36] No problem, thank you for omitting my opinion since I am black.. dont worry , I can probably find a way to bleach my skin [06:36] I think it would be worth asking which laptop - bios acpi or or acpi module can be buggy - and there's the noacpi boot option. But setting 'when the lid is closed' to nothing' or 'turn off display', 'when suspend button is pressed' to 'do nothing', and 'when power button is pressed' to 'ask' is often good enough, dto. for low/critical batt [06:36] Guest23681, sorry SJW crybaby bullshit doesnt get any play here. you wont find any sympathy [06:38] Not looking for sympathy or even emphaty.. simply feeling disgusted to see that my sincere opinions are being rejected [06:38] and after installing ubunutu beaver.....my battery backup has beacome very low? is there any soln [06:38] Guest23681, theres nothing sincere about you [06:39] Why do you say that? [06:39] cuz i like to party [06:40] Ha ha.... you like to party and I like to feed my mind.. I guess we are both on the same side === gms is now known as Guest2489 [06:42] Another issue which seems to be a lack of respect is that you are duplicating my username and to me it's like violating my personal right [06:58] i am going to install ubuntu but in video it is showing that i should shrink the disk volume,what does it mean? [06:58] will it format my c drive data? [06:59] anyine? [07:00] Sangeet, Ubuntu needs space to install itself into, so the 'shrink' will mean reducing the space allocated to windows to create this space (assuming dual boot) [07:00] Sangeet: shrinking a drive will not delete anything, but you should always backup just in case something goes wrong [07:00] thanks both of you,,i have few small questions [07:01] yes i am going to install ubuntu in already installed windows for now i have 41/98 gb data already allocated for windows. [07:04] 41/98 gb means 41 gb is already used ducasse guiverc [07:04] Sangeet: you don't install it in your windows partition, the installer creates a new one [07:06] ducasse: so what should i do?should i directly go into installing mode without shrink or other things? [07:07] Sangeet: as ducasse suggests, setup will automaticly choose the layout on your free space [07:08] lotuspsychje: so i dont need to shrink space,right [07:08] ? [07:08] Sangeet: its the users choice, what is it you actually want to do? just dualboot? [07:08] shrink the windows partition from windows first, it's the safest way [07:09] Sangeet: ^^ [07:09] lotuspsychje: yes i am want to install my ubuntu in already installed windows 10 [07:09] 'alongside', not 'in' [07:09] Sangeet: so 41gig is for windows, means ubuntu will use 57gig for ubuntu, do you want this? [07:10] sorry ducasse you are right alongside windows [07:11] lotuspsychje: i installed windows in C: which has remaining 41 gb out of 98 gb [07:12] Sangeet: when i scroll up you say 41g was in use? [07:12] 41gb remaining or used? you've said both now :) [07:13] lotuspsychje: sorry,41 gb remaining [07:13] Sangeet: ..but that doesnt matter, do you want your free space to be used by ubuntu install? [07:13] process shows remining GBs [07:14] lotuspsychje: yes i am want to install ubuntu in that free space [07:14] Sangeet: good, then take ducasse's advice install alongside windows, let setup calculate the partition layout [07:14] but i am not sure how much GBs will be left?what to enter into shrink options? [07:15] how much GBs ubuntu complete installation takes ? [07:15] Sangeet: i think you confuse things here... you think if ubuntu will install on free space, your hd will be full? [07:16] Sorry guys [07:16] but i have to do simple thing here [07:16] i have to install Ubuntu along side windows 10 [07:17] Sangeet: an ubuntu install will take about 10g, i guess, but you can easily use more [07:17] Sangeet: on both sides ubuntu & windows you still will have free space [07:17] i have 41 gb data free in the disk where i am want to install ubuntu & [07:17] i am confuse how much MBs i should enter in shrink menu? [07:17] can i install windows & ubuntu in same disk? [07:17] Sangeet: why do you keep focussing on shrinking? [07:18] enter how much you want ubuntu to have access to [07:18] lotuspsychje: in the video it is shown as a process to do before installing ubuntu,i dont know is it necessary or not? [07:18] if you want to use 15gb for ubuntu, enter that [07:18] Sangeet: ^ [07:18] it is safer to do it from windows first [07:20] ducasse: OK if i use 15 gb out of 41 then can i use remaining 26gbs from the same disk & other disk storage? [07:20] the remaining space will be left for windows, as it is now [07:21] lotuspsychje: is shrink necessary? [07:21] Sangeet: already told you, its the users choice..what you want yourself [07:21] ducasse: so i can only use 15 gb when i will use UBuntu,right? [07:21] i've answered that. yes, it is, and it's safer to do from windows. [07:22] got it ducasse [07:22] you can use however much space you want, but i recommend at least 10-15gb [07:22] it quickly fills up when you start installing things, and your homedir takes space too [07:23] ducasse: i mean after installing ubuntu,can i use other disk storage too? [07:24] ubuntu can access your windows partitions, if that's what you mean [07:24] Sangeet: any disk storage can be used [07:24] got it SittingGnu [07:25] Sangeet: just make sure to always unmount before you shut off [07:25] ducasse: ok.that means i can use D: & E: too [07:25] shut off?? mount? SittingGnu [07:25] yes [07:26] ? Sangeet [07:26] SittingGnu: shut off means shut down?what is unmount here? [07:26] yes to use you mount [07:27] you click and it appears mounted like on a mac [07:27] the drive appears on your desktop [07:27] then you click unmount before you shut down [07:27] ducasse: so i should first allow 15gb via shrink option then restart computer & install ubuntu to get option of Dual boot after each start .right? [07:28] Sangeet: yes, more space if you think you need it - 15gb is not much [07:29] ducasse: but you said i can use D: & E: too,then why should i allocate more GBs? [07:30] you can store files etc on windows drives, but you can't use them for installing programs, for example [07:30] they don't support linux permissions [07:31] ducasse: oops...then probably i have to allow 40 GB out of 41 as i can install programs in other directories while using windows [07:32] ducasse: what is unmount thing SittingGnu said? [07:32] !mount | Sangeet [07:32] Sangeet: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [07:33] Sangeet: as long as you shutdown properly, you don't need to worry about unmounting now [07:34] ducasse: what will if i aam forget to shut down properly? [07:34] Sangeet: just install alongside windows... [07:34] Sangeet: we have giving you alot of information already, now time for action [07:35] lotuspsychje: i am asking this because i dont have back up of windows [07:35] Sangeet: you can read the link from ubottu to know all about mounting and unmounting [07:35] Sangeet: its not wise to install dualboot, without having a backup.. [07:36] Sangeet: we stronly suggest you backup your needed data external [07:36] lotuspsychje: i did back up of needed data but not windows [07:37] & why external?i copied all imp data into other drives where windows is not installed [07:37] Sangeet: on the same harddisk? [07:37] lotuspsychje: yes,in my latops's harddisk ,i just copied data from C: (windows installed) to D: & : [07:38] E: [07:38] Sangeet: from w10 you can make backup of your windows too [07:38] Sangeet: you sure its not 1 big harddisk divided in partitions? [07:39] Sangeet: not so much laptops have 2 harddisks by default [07:39] * Sangeet sorry for my english but i am doing that deliberately [07:39] i mean am not [07:41] that's ok, if we don't understand you we'll ask [07:47] thanks guys for understand the situation [07:49] i advise you to try out a live session first, to see if your hardware works [07:54] hello [07:54] denafig: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you? [07:55] I lost pannels in mate. bacouse of use TV as the monitor [07:56] denafig: tryed a reboot yet? [07:56] yep, and I forget how to log out to use guest mod =D [07:56] denafig: the button Fn+ F key for screen switch can do magic some times too [07:57] I have all pannels in guest [07:57] what is :Fn"? [07:57] denafig: is this a laptop? [07:58] no. I use my pc but monitor in trash and I use now TV =D [07:59] denafig: you can try asking in #ubuntu-mate where your mate config is stored, and wipe that [07:59] denafig: on hdmi? wich ubuntu version is that of mate [08:00] ducasse, did't know about mate channel [08:00] lotuspsychje, yes hdmi, how can I know wich ubuntu vers is of mate I have? [08:00] denafig: lsb_release -a [08:01] 16.04 [08:04] denafig, in my experience, some tvs don't show the full image (overscan I think it's called), where sides (top/bottom) of image can be invisible to hide any black 'box'. changing resolutions can help, but tv specific.. [08:05] / sorry ignore my last; if you have all panels in guest; it's unlikely what i was thinking [08:05] it was ok, but I shot down my pc not carefully, and now it's no pannels I see, but mate think they are working good [08:11] so this is what happens when I try to boot without nomodeset: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hen_MRfe3Vvh0207Sg-OJMxnaiItSSdH (and this is after making sure that nouveau is blacklisted) === mohammad is now known as linuxlove [08:24] /msg NickServ identify mohammad1380*@ [08:24] hello huys [08:25] hello guys [08:25] linuxlove, looks like you need to change your password [08:25] it wasnt correct [08:25] doesnt matter [08:25] Invalid password for linuxlove. [08:27] who knows [08:27] what is the best diagram software that supports urf8 for windows [08:27] ? === Nik is now known as Guest39103 [08:28] Huh? === Tabmasher is now known as TabMasher [08:30] `dia` isn't bad linuxlove if you are using gnome or unity [08:31] What is dia [08:31] guiverc, i eant it for my friend [08:31] he has windows 10 [08:31] but he wanted to know if it supports utf 8 [08:33] what is this [08:34] linuxlove, we only support Ubuntu here [08:37] cbpye: your ubuntu version, graphics card chipset please? [08:43] any one can remind me how to login as guest, becouse my ubuntu login automatically. I can only use Termenal for that. [08:44] cant find it in gugle -_- [08:46] lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 18.04, using an NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] [08:46] lotuspsychje: also of note, lsmod shows that nouveau is still loaded [08:47] cbpye: perhaps try to install nvidia-390 from tty then? [08:47]